When I started hearing about the "Grinch leak in Smash" I thought it was a meme about the Grinch actually being in Smash and ignored it. After a few days I started watching posts like "Grinch leak confirmed" and people ranting about how it was real and I thought: wow, people are this f***ing stupid? Of course it's fake! I mean, I was right, but for wrong reasons XD
Nah me too man. Especially when you look into the details. Like characters being smaller, some being moved for no reason not even for spots that the new comers filled in, and some characters weren't positioned properly. Also the fact that Snapchat was the exception to a blurry picture also made things weird since blurry pictures were a no go except Snapchat.
It wasn’t called “the grinch leak” cuz people saw grinch in the roster, It was because the grinch was in the background of the image. (I sound Like a nerd don’t I Lol).
Ŵhîtēł•02 There wasn’t any evidence except for one image that very vaguely showed new “characters.” The entire leak makes no sense and I have no idea why it got so popular. It should’ve immediately been fake once Mach Rider and Chorus Kids were shown.
@@bluerious5475 "It should’ve immediately been fake once Mach Rider and Chorus Kids were shown." Yeah fucking right. Just because a character seems outlandish doesn't mean a leak is fake. Honestly, if somebody told you 6 months that motherfucking PIRANHA PLANT was going to be in Smash Brothers, would you have believed it?
I was on the Team Fake side of this. As legit this leak seemed, I was still a skeptic. We all should of learned by the Rayman leak that anything can be faked...no matter how good it looks. And this is just more proof of that.
This leak only showed how people underestimate the dedication some people can go into making a leak. I remember the Smash 4 Rayman leak and learned no matter how believeable it may seem to look, we have to wait until official confirmation or it's debunked by the leaker
Oh hey! I'm in this! Funny enough I was actually thinking of making a video detailing the whole process, and this is pretty helpful! Great job putting this together!
It was pretty 50/50 believable at first, but as time went on it all just kinda fell apart entirely. I was team fake all the way and 80% of the arguments i heard in favor was either based on the belief that everyone but the leaker was lying, based on really circumstantial stuff that doesn’t really prove anything, or based on misconstruing existing evidence to prove a point. What 100% killed it for me was when we found out the guy who was named was about 60 or so, since I know that no actual 60 year old professional who’s worked in that industry would jeopardize their entire career and reputation in that way, especially considering it was leaked from a Snapchat which no 60 year old uses
I’m honestly shocked that this leak was so widely believed. Since when has a Smash game not added a new Pokémon to the roster? On top of this, I think they would have been doing more frequent character reveals leading up to release if there were 7 more reveals. Sakurai stressed that we shouldn’t expect too many newcomers from the start.
Oh, I think I understand now after watching the whole thing. You guys were calling it the Grinch leak not because you thought Grinch would be in the game, but because there was some kind of Grinch accessory in the background of the leak and people needed an all-encompassing title for the leaked characters. Here I was squinting at the mural, trying to find Grinch in there, lol.
It's funny because if you were one of the people who said the leak was fake, people hounded you and called you stupid. I mean look how fucking blurry the original image is! If it was real then the guy would have taken a clear picture!! Even though all the characters named in the leak were poplaur guesses that most players want. It just seemed too good to be true. Sure, Ken and Shadow made sense as echo fighters, but there was no way Banjo & Kazooie wouldnt be dlc. Isaac had a ghost of a chance, and the chorus kids had even less of a chance. Then the geno guess was just an asinine crowd pleaser because for some reason a cult of people *really* want geno in smash. The leak was doomed from the start, and anyone with a brain knew it was fake.
The video is almost done. I gave myself a deadline of getting it done before Piranha plant was released (around mid Feburary at the latest if the amiibo means anything).
Looking back on this about a year later The Stages are now easy to tell that the last slot is for the 5 Stages for Fighters Pass 2 ("Extra Stages" or "DLC Stages") The Validity for Issac, while down, is still at an ok spot for him to be brought into smash So what i'm saying is the Grinch Leak was never 100% True (ofc hindsight was used here but not completely) but some features are actual possibilities
Imagine telling people back then that Steve, Banjo, Sephiroth and Sora are going to be in Smash
Nintendo Ninja: Sir! The Grinch has leaked the entire roster!
Masahiro Sakurai: Release the Plant.
The 108 stages is now confirmed due to the Fighters pass.
Well, now it's outdated thanks to Fighters Pass 2 bumping it up to 114.
@@c0mf0rta61ynum6 115 thanks to Small Battlefield.
When I started hearing about the "Grinch leak in Smash" I thought it was a meme about the Grinch actually being in Smash and ignored it. After a few days I started watching posts like "Grinch leak confirmed" and people ranting about how it was real and I thought: wow, people are this f***ing stupid? Of course it's fake!
I mean, I was right, but for wrong reasons XD
I thought that too at first!
@@theangrypotato2.031 I thought that for only 2 seconds
Reminder the Nintendo community are the same ones who perpetuate the "Yoshi Tax Fraud" meme so I couldn't blame you for thinking that.
Nah me too man. Especially when you look into the details. Like characters being smaller, some being moved for no reason not even for spots that the new comers filled in, and some characters weren't positioned properly. Also the fact that Snapchat was the exception to a blurry picture also made things weird since blurry pictures were a no go except Snapchat.
Same
Who Would win?
One of the greatest fake leaks in history
or
A literal plant
We were this close to having the Grinch as a playable character in smash smh
It wasn’t called “the grinch leak” cuz people saw grinch in the roster, It was because the grinch was in the background of the image. (I sound Like a nerd don’t I Lol).
this man was ahead of his time, he could see banjo but not the luminary or joker
This is an amazing video. Gonna link this to the people saying stuff like "how did anyone believe the leak there was no evidence lol"
You're more amazing
but the video specifically shows videos from several people debunking the 'evidence' lol. There was no evidence lol, just wild speculation
Ŵhîtēł•02 There wasn’t any evidence except for one image that very vaguely showed new “characters.” The entire leak makes no sense and I have no idea why it got so popular. It should’ve immediately been fake once Mach Rider and Chorus Kids were shown.
@@bluerious5475 "It should’ve immediately been fake once Mach Rider and Chorus Kids were shown." Yeah fucking right. Just because a character seems outlandish doesn't mean a leak is fake. Honestly, if somebody told you 6 months that motherfucking PIRANHA PLANT was going to be in Smash Brothers, would you have believed it?
Super Goldfish I wouldn’t have, however it would make much more sense than those two characters.
I was on the Team Fake side of this. As legit this leak seemed, I was still a skeptic. We all should of learned by the Rayman leak that anything can be faked...no matter how good it looks. And this is just more proof of that.
HOLY SHIT MORE DLC CHARACTERS ARE IN DEVELOPMENT AND BANJO ALSO WORKED OUT
Geno could potientally be our 2nd Grinch Leak survivor
Powerman that would he sick, I also love how late to all the news I am, kinda happy I missed out on all the toxicity.
This leak only showed how people underestimate the dedication some people can go into making a leak. I remember the Smash 4 Rayman leak and learned no matter how believeable it may seem to look, we have to wait until official confirmation or it's debunked by the leaker
I keep hearing the song on my drive to work. It hurts.
I love documentaries that just show footage of events or interviews of people and nothing else its rly all it needs to be
Happy anniversary good sir. It's been a whole year since this leak blew up
I have a video coming tommorow celebrating the anniversary. ;)
@@Powerman293 oooooo very excited! I love all the ones youve made so far!
Oh hey! I'm in this! Funny enough I was actually thinking of making a video detailing the whole process, and this is pretty helpful!
Great job putting this together!
Thanks! I'm working on more parts, atm. So I would like to not have my thunder stolen lol.
man, seeing the amount of people stretching things to try to get the leak to be true, they wanted it to be true
LMTYA is a good choice my dude
Thx for putting some japantime audio in here it's golden 👌
It was pretty 50/50 believable at first, but as time went on it all just kinda fell apart entirely. I was team fake all the way and 80% of the arguments i heard in favor was either based on the belief that everyone but the leaker was lying, based on really circumstantial stuff that doesn’t really prove anything, or based on misconstruing existing evidence to prove a point.
What 100% killed it for me was when we found out the guy who was named was about 60 or so, since I know that no actual 60 year old professional who’s worked in that industry would jeopardize their entire career and reputation in that way, especially considering it was leaked from a Snapchat which no 60 year old uses
I gave him that he was right about banjo
these are stupidly underatted
2:39 Well at least this one’s still in the running lol
I’m honestly shocked that this leak was so widely believed. Since when has a Smash game not added a new Pokémon to the roster? On top of this, I think they would have been doing more frequent character reveals leading up to release if there were 7 more reveals. Sakurai stressed that we shouldn’t expect too many newcomers from the start.
I want to meet whoever made this leak.
4:50
Still a sick burn my dudes
Can't wait for part 2
Good choice in including the lmtya Boyz
At least banjo is real
Oh, I think I understand now after watching the whole thing. You guys were calling it the Grinch leak not because you thought Grinch would be in the game, but because there was some kind of Grinch accessory in the background of the leak and people needed an all-encompassing title for the leaked characters. Here I was squinting at the mural, trying to find Grinch in there, lol.
It's funny because if you were one of the people who said the leak was fake, people hounded you and called you stupid. I mean look how fucking blurry the original image is! If it was real then the guy would have taken a clear picture!! Even though all the characters named in the leak were poplaur guesses that most players want. It just seemed too good to be true. Sure, Ken and Shadow made sense as echo fighters, but there was no way Banjo & Kazooie wouldnt be dlc. Isaac had a ghost of a chance, and the chorus kids had even less of a chance. Then the geno guess was just an asinine crowd pleaser because for some reason a cult of people *really* want geno in smash.
The leak was doomed from the start, and anyone with a brain knew it was fake.
Next DLC character is Grinch
But everything according Isaac was so fitting... yet he is an assist trophy... how? why? warum? wieso? porque? γιατί?doshite?
Aaww poor chorus kids
Where is part 2?
The video is almost done. I gave myself a deadline of getting it done before Piranha plant was released (around mid Feburary at the latest if the amiibo means anything).
Clayton M ok thanks
Looking back on this about a year later
The Stages are now easy to tell that the last slot is for the 5 Stages for Fighters Pass 2 ("Extra Stages" or "DLC Stages")
The Validity for Issac, while down, is still at an ok spot for him to be brought into smash
So what i'm saying is the Grinch Leak was never 100% True (ofc hindsight was used here but not completely) but some features are actual possibilities
Also Sakurai's "Do not expect too many new fighters."
I know this game is dummy thicc in grossing but I think he's underestimating his fans a bit
A Plant... A PLANT???
F
Artsy Omni Rayman is better
Banjo in smash now im scared if it real
This "leaks" are still on the table because of banjo was released for e3
How the fuck was this faked
who is here from reddit
Me
You kinda just mashed together popular videos about the Grinch leak incoherently. Not sure the point.