I have always taught my children, grandchildren and greats “ That whatever you do in life it will come back to you with a pat on the back or a bite in the ass”. Everyone will be accountable for everything one does…good bad or indifferent.
too many healthcare staff in our area will doctor their notes to reflect themselves in a good light and the complaining patients as "unbalanced" and "substance seeking" - so I am glad to see a medical board that takes professionalism seriously
While I might agree to a medical procedure being filmed I wouldn't like my Dr answering questions on SM during it. To me that means they are not directing all their attention to me.
Thank you for putting this out, I would love to see you collab with an attorney on here maybe "Legal Eagles" and have a discussion, him talking more of the legal aspects of it, and you talking, as the technical expert on the medical aspect of it.
I appreciate the medical look at this situation. As an attorney, I have a somewhat different take. From what I have read in the 104 page final revocation, Dr. Roxy was operating in an unlicensed surgery center and on at least one patient she claimed a patient met the criteria for operating on in an ambulatory surgery center when they did not, and that patient had serious complications that were unlikely to have occurred if operated on in an appropriate setting, or not at all. She also published photos and videos of at least one patient who had signed a document that these media were for the patient medical record only. She operated while music was loud enough that it interfered with critical communication between essential operating room personnel, the records kept were not properly documenting the procedure and medications, records given to the medical board didn't match records given to a patient, and she was not operating appropriately under professional ethics codes. I am not saying she didn't have thousands of happy patients, or didn't have employees and others who depend on her, but she had a duty to provide care that is in the best interest of the patients, legally performed, and it appears she may have focused more on the social media growth and growing her brand over patient care in at least the 3 complaining cases, and did so to a degree that she jeopardized patients health and the livelihoods of those she employed. She can, and should, appeal but the evidence presented seems very strong
Those are all good points. I did not have access to the medical board document you referred or any of the other medical records in the case. The case is a good springboard for discussion. Thanks for taking the time to send comments.
So, the way that licensing boards generally work regarding discipline is that it is based on a complaints/reporting system. Signing a waiver doesn't preclude them from filing a complaint that the Board needs to then investigate.
You are correct, I understand. It’s worth noting that many state medical boards are widely considered to be political, corrupt, and capricious in their decision making. Furthermore, their mandate is to public safety and they do not seem to consider the financial and emotional cost of their Byzantine process on the profession.
@AronowitzIORT I would think public safety is the important part. If you're looking for advocacy instead, there are voluntary membership ssociations for that.
If she tried to apply for a license in another state, that application would typically ask if she had any disciplinary history on any other licenses. Boards will also typically require an official verification letter from other states to confirm status and disciplinary history during the application process. Whether or not she could get licensed elsewhere depends on the state she tries with and what their laws and regulations say. But Boards will take disciplinary histories from other states very seriously when making a determination.
I can’t remember the names of the Australian Drs, but they did treatments on social media, they almost killed some of their patients, I can’t remember the names but I hope they’ve been struck off as we say in U.K.
I don’t make a habit of following medical youtube videos, especially those that I would describe as involving intimate or highly personal procedures. I have not watched this physician’s videos, but did take a look at some excerpts publicly available. I expect that they are not a fair representation, but I found them disturbing because of the level of self-promotion, and cheap, comedy club performances. Some might assert it borders on narcissism. To me this type of conduct has no place in a serious medical setting especially one that relates to addressing serious and life-altering medical conditions. No matter the level of her training and medical skills, I have to assume that regulators also found this to be very disturbing and were concerned with how this reflects on the profession generally, in addition to being concerned that the distractions inherent in her style of video making created risks for patients. Perhaps they were also trying to send a message to others. If asked, I would advised her against making this practice and that it was bound to land her in hot water. Nevertheless, the sanctions strike me as too severe. A warning, counseling, monitoring, or suspension, or some combination of these probably would have been sufficient to alter behavior. Perhaps a reviewing court, if such recourse is available, would agree. By the way, I find your videos to be overwhelmingly educational in their approach.
I had never heard of this case/proceeding so I am coming at this with some what fresh eyes. I believe in this time of our country our lives our awareness, there is an extreme lack of personal responsibility. We are very quick to refuse to accept what we did as wrong. She was wrong. She chose this behavior, she chose the consequences of that behavior. Those under her employ knew what they were entering into as well. The choices she made were clear. She did this at her own peril. My question to her would be did she consult her own legal counsel prior to embarking on this little foolish road? When we ask was her behavior below the standard of care, I think the question is even easier than invoking legal minds opinions etc. The question is, would this be the way you would want your nearest and dearest treated. In one video, she is standing there sucking out someone's fat, with her head turned talking to the camera! That is below anyone's definition of standard of care. If you happened on this video and realized this was your family member, spouse, friend, CHILD?? Honestly what would your response be? This capitalistic, hedonistic, self centered society we live in demands this sort of behavior. We are shallow. We crave the best, the newest, the est of anything. This is the spoils of that behavior. We are rapidly losing our standards, our ethics, our decency towards each other. We hoped that COVID would teach us something. It did, it taught us that irresponsible, inhuman treatment of each other is the new standard of care. Forgive my overlong response, I see her as the symptom and the disease.
I understand where you are coming from and sympathize. Lack of personal responsibility, poor respect for others and low professional standards has always been an issue in our society, actually likely every society. I'm not sure about the facts of this case and so I don't want to render a judgement but it is worth reflecting upon, thanks for watching the video and be well.
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I have always taught my children, grandchildren and greats “ That whatever you do in life it will come back to you with a pat on the back or a bite in the ass”. Everyone will be accountable for everything one does…good bad or indifferent.
I think it's true, thanks for the comment
Good Advice and Wise Words
I guess the board had valid reasons for taking her license away. I wouldn't want her to operate on me or a family member.
too many healthcare staff in our area will doctor their notes to reflect themselves in a good light and the complaining patients as "unbalanced" and "substance seeking" - so I am glad to see a medical board that takes professionalism seriously
Kind of harsh treatment though don’t you think?
While I might agree to a medical procedure being filmed I wouldn't like my Dr answering questions on SM during it. To me that means they are not directing all their attention to me.
Thank you for the information ❤
You are welcome
Thank you for putting this out, I would love to see you collab with an attorney on here maybe "Legal Eagles" and have a discussion, him talking more of the legal aspects of it, and you talking, as the technical expert on the medical aspect of it.
Thank you for balanced perspective!
Thanks for watching
I appreciate the medical look at this situation. As an attorney, I have a somewhat different take. From what I have read in the 104 page final revocation, Dr. Roxy was operating in an unlicensed surgery center and on at least one patient she claimed a patient met the criteria for operating on in an ambulatory surgery center when they did not, and that patient had serious complications that were unlikely to have occurred if operated on in an appropriate setting, or not at all. She also published photos and videos of at least one patient who had signed a document that these media were for the patient medical record only. She operated while music was loud enough that it interfered with critical communication between essential operating room personnel, the records kept were not properly documenting the procedure and medications, records given to the medical board didn't match records given to a patient, and she was not operating appropriately under professional ethics codes. I am not saying she didn't have thousands of happy patients, or didn't have employees and others who depend on her, but she had a duty to provide care that is in the best interest of the patients, legally performed, and it appears she may have focused more on the social media growth and growing her brand over patient care in at least the 3 complaining cases, and did so to a degree that she jeopardized patients health and the livelihoods of those she employed. She can, and should, appeal but the evidence presented seems very strong
Thank you for an insight into the legal side. Would have thought there was more to it than being stated medically.
Those are all good points. I did not have access to the medical board document you referred or any of the other medical records in the case. The case is a good springboard for discussion. Thanks for taking the time to send comments.
I enjoyed your video Dr.
So, the way that licensing boards generally work regarding discipline is that it is based on a complaints/reporting system. Signing a waiver doesn't preclude them from filing a complaint that the Board needs to then investigate.
You are correct, I understand. It’s worth noting that many state medical boards are widely considered to be political, corrupt, and capricious in their decision making. Furthermore, their mandate is to public safety and they do not seem to consider the financial and emotional cost of their Byzantine process on the profession.
@AronowitzIORT I would think public safety is the important part. If you're looking for advocacy instead, there are voluntary membership ssociations for that.
Great idea
Oh shi, just watching and then I see a new one posted
Would this Dr be able to practice in other states?
If she tried to apply for a license in another state, that application would typically ask if she had any disciplinary history on any other licenses. Boards will also typically require an official verification letter from other states to confirm status and disciplinary history during the application process. Whether or not she could get licensed elsewhere depends on the state she tries with and what their laws and regulations say. But Boards will take disciplinary histories from other states very seriously when making a determination.
I can’t remember the names of the Australian Drs, but they did treatments on social media, they almost killed some of their patients, I can’t remember the names but I hope they’ve been struck off as we say in U.K.
I did not like Dr. Roxy acting out like a star of a movie .
I agree
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I don’t make a habit of following medical youtube videos, especially those that I would describe as involving intimate or highly personal procedures. I have not watched this physician’s videos, but did take a look at some excerpts publicly available. I expect that they are not a fair representation, but I found them disturbing because of the level of self-promotion, and cheap, comedy club performances. Some might assert it borders on narcissism. To me this type of conduct has no place in a serious medical setting especially one that relates to addressing serious and life-altering medical conditions. No matter the level of her training and medical skills, I have to assume that regulators also found this to be very disturbing and were concerned with how this reflects on the profession generally, in addition to being concerned that the distractions inherent in her style of video making created risks for patients. Perhaps they were also trying to send a message to others. If asked, I would advised her against making this practice and that it was bound to land her in hot water. Nevertheless, the sanctions strike me as too severe. A warning, counseling, monitoring, or suspension, or some combination of these probably would have been sufficient to alter behavior. Perhaps a reviewing court, if such recourse is available, would agree. By the way, I find your videos to be overwhelmingly educational in their approach.
I had never heard of this case/proceeding so I am coming at this with some what fresh eyes. I believe in this time of our country our lives our awareness, there is an extreme lack of personal responsibility. We are very quick to refuse to accept what we did as wrong. She was wrong. She chose this behavior, she chose the consequences of that behavior. Those under her employ knew what they were entering into as well. The choices she made were clear. She did this at her own peril. My question to her would be did she consult her own legal counsel prior to embarking on this little foolish road? When we ask was her behavior below the standard of care, I think the question is even easier than invoking legal minds opinions etc. The question is, would this be the way you would want your nearest and dearest treated. In one video, she is standing there sucking out someone's fat, with her head turned talking to the camera! That is below anyone's definition of standard of care. If you happened on this video and realized this was your family member, spouse, friend, CHILD?? Honestly what would your response be? This capitalistic, hedonistic, self centered society we live in demands this sort of behavior. We are shallow. We crave the best, the newest, the est of anything. This is the spoils of that behavior. We are rapidly losing our standards, our ethics, our decency towards each other. We hoped that COVID would teach us something. It did, it taught us that irresponsible, inhuman treatment of each other is the new standard of care. Forgive my overlong response, I see her as the symptom and the disease.
I understand where you are coming from and sympathize. Lack of personal responsibility, poor respect for others and low professional standards has always been an issue in our society, actually likely every society. I'm not sure about the facts of this case and so I don't want to render a judgement but it is worth reflecting upon, thanks for watching the video and be well.