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Dr SHABBIR ALLEY sir,Assalam alaikum consequent to my comment though I got two replies I feel still uncomfortable with one answer addressing ALMIGHTY as God. I need your valuable reply. Please oblige. Thank you. ALLAH HAFIZ
@@rafeequeahmed8240 According to your qurans, if in doubt ask the people of the book. We live on information age, go read the Bible and compare it with the qurans. Don't be afraid to seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
@@celestinaballad9052 sir, with due respect I like to say right now I had already read the complete bible(old & new testimonials). My doubt is about the ALMIGHTY creator of this universe in proper addressing Him as per ISLAM. At the same time I will be happy if you give proper reasoning to God as well with respect to my holy QURAAN revealed by prophet MUHAMMED P B H the last messenger of the ALMIGHTY. For your information we Muslims always consider prophet ISA (JESUS) P B H as one of the MESENGERS of the ALMIGHTY. Hope U understand my feelings. Thank you sir
@@rafeequeahmed8240 Are you sure you read The Old and NT Bible. In The Bible, We call YHWH The Almighty Father whereas in islam al lah is father to none and he is not a spirit. So which direction would you go
The information you share on this invaluable! So I am a little embarrassed to ask such a seemingly shallow question, but would you be able to share how you style your hijab, Sister Safiyyah? It looks lovely on you Masha’Allah 😅
The Quran cannot stand alone and must rely up the Christian and Jewish bible for interpretation. Thank God he is faithful and true to his word in preserving his holy bible!
Rely? Torah and Injeel are God’s word just Quran is. And I’m not talking about 66 or so books of what you call bible written by dozens of men in different ages.
@@Tamim-uTube According to Muslim/Islamic logic, since the Quran is Allah's final revelation to mankind the Torah and New Testament and all supporting historical manuscripts are "abrogated". Subsequently, all Torahs, New Testaments, and their supporting historical documents should be burned just like all the early Qurans.
The Bible narrative leaves Hagar's journey and abandons them onto the wilderness giving them no real importance. For Sarah and Isaac become the focus of the Bible's attention. But the Islamic narrative gives Hagar and Ismael HUGE importance as she is tested by Allah and finally rewarded for her patience... Jews and Christians become a nation from what they believe that they are from the twelve Tribes of Israel from Isaac and Sarah...but from the Islamic perspective Allah brings in a new nation from Hagar's story and that new nation is a nation for all mankind and not based on race or language... it seems that God and shown countless mercies and tests on the descendants of the twelve Tribes and has now shifted his attention to a new ummah. Sarah was jealous of Hagar( according to the Bible) just as Cain was jealous of abel and Satan of Adam.....there is a running trend of superiority complexes within people as this is a running illness within the hearts of people. Sadly Zionists believe that others races are no better than they ( repeating the mantra of Satan's response to the creation of Adam 'HE ADAM IS NO BETTER THAN I!'...)
Sadly we were lied to about races in the Bible! If we read with intention…what does the Bible tell us about Moses, Sampson, Elijah, yeshua….etc… none of these people were blue eyed blondes! Most of us know this now! Coming from a green eyed blonde!
I feel so sorry for Hagar and I do believe god gave them Islam, but I believe in yeshua and I pray we can all find him and realize that ONLY Yeshua alone can bring us all together. Every “Religion “ Jews, Muslims and Christians. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Dr. Ally can you open an online islamic school for the people who have no access to proper islamic knowledge? I'm sure the ummah will be greatly benefited from it.
Biblical text does not refer to Hagar as Abraham's "wife". Abraham himself does not call Hagar his wife, i.e., (Genesis 16:6): "Abram told Sarai: “Your maid is in your power". God's angel does not call Hagar, Abraham's "wife": (Genesis 16:8-9): "Hagar, maid of Sarai, where have you come from and where are you going?” She answered, “I am running away from my mistress, Sarai.” But the LORD’s angel told her: “Go back to your mistress and submit to her authority."
Hello! I am studying religion for my undergrad, and am particularly interested in the Abrahamic religions. I am not Muslim, but want to understand more. Can you tell me where to read more about the stories of Hagar in Islam?
The holy Bible tells us that Abraham was tested by god. Abraham was old as dirt and so was his wife Sarah. They were true believers of god, but doubted they would have children. Sarah gave her servant to Abraham to give him a child…her name was Hagar. She bore a child named Ishmael. Abraham loved his son, but adored and loved Sarah more. Angels came and told them they would have their own child. Sarah laughed and was scolded… still she became pregnant and gave birth to Isaac God told Abraham to sacrifice him son Isaac and right before he did it god said to stop. Then sent Hagar and Ishmael away. Sad Bible story.
Respected Dr. Shabbir alley sir, I beg your pardon please. Will you kindly clarify my doubt which is the best way of addressing the Almighty ALLAH or God. Please kindly clarify
@Yotchat Margui sir, Assalam alaikum thank you for your timely reply. Sir still I feel uncomfortable in addressing ALMIGHTY as God. Please pardon me in case you feel me wrong. I am a novice in front of learned Islamic scholars. Thank you sir. ALLAH HAFIZ
Back to BIBLE Because Isaac is the PROMISED OF GOD AND THE EVERLASTING COVENANT And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. Genesis 17:19
In bible.. both sarah & hagar is presented in a right way... I recently completed reading Genesis.. & from.. That.. I never felt... The way.. This gentlemen has represented sarah's behavior.. In bible.... Also.. The next point.. That the respected person has said.. Is that.. About the water.. Story in quran.. Yes its mention in bible too... & I hv loved the way.... Everything's written in bible....
Please explain how Ishmael both can be about 15 years old when Sara ask Abraham to send them away and a baby when Hagar and Ishmael are located in Mecca?
Salamu alayk. That is not in any ilamaic book, nor Quran or any sahih or good hdith. This is from the jews a d christians, Our view is that he was still a baby, when he was sendt to mecca with hajar. This is my knowledge, if I said anything wrong, then I am wrong. Barka Allahu feek. BROTHER
@@Soyodi If The Bible is inconsistent why did your qurans borrowed or took the names of the Old Testament Prophet and made them somehow in your qurans..Tell us more about being consistent
@@celestinaballad9052 consistency is when the same God of Prophet Abraham Moses and Jesus And Prophet Muhammad ﷺ reveal the same message and the Prophets preach the same thing. Inconsistency is when man comes and distort the same message. The fact the the God of the Quran tells similar story to that of the Bible indicates that we believe in the same God. It would be more inconsistent if there is too much dissimilarity. Understand that Islam was not founded by Prophet Muhammad ﷺ but the message was perfected though him. Ask yourself this why do Jews and Muslims believe in just One God and not the trinity. How can it be logical and conceivable that God has to become a man to sacrifice himself in order to forgive. True forgiveness is obtained only though repentance and through God's mercy.
God told Hagar Ishmael would be "a wild ass of a man," who would always be at odds with other men. Early in the discussion I caught a brief, vague allusion to that with no further discussion.
You lack basic knowledge, indeed Ishmael was the first son and he was the one God commanded Abraham to sacrifice but instead an animal was put and Abraham fulfilled the test.
@@thethankfulservant9808 how he is not the PROMISED OF GOD, it is ISAAC not Ismael , Isaac is the everlasting COVENANT And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. Genesis 17:19
Exactly. I read that she was given to Abraham in a friendly way. Maybe because she was dark skin from Egypt she was not favoured by Abraham's household.
@@jollyfeby6656 No, she was his wife. Sarai was his wife as well. Polygamy was common in those days. It was an arranged marriage from the Egyptians to Abraham.
@@Crissy_tina You don't know your Bible. When you speak, do so with knowledge, otherwise remain silent. Here is your source from Genesis 16:3 - "And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife."
It is good to find the truth about Hager that you need to go to the Holy Bible. The Angel that sent Hager back is the Angel of the Lord which is God himself.
@@jame2182 only one of us can be right, guess the first one who dies me or you will know who was right and who was wrong, you say the angel was Allah i say its God himself whose name is Yshua the I AM the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
Didnt u hear that running away story is a christian version but not a muslim one? Also meant we dont acknowledge Sarah's meanness towards Hagar . Nor to god or Ibrahim being dictated around by Sarah. God has his own plans n all parties abide by it .
@5:34 to 5:42 "the story that is mentioned in the hadeeth, probably, to a large extent, derived from Jewish and Christian sources"?! Dr. Shabir Ali, do you not believe that the Sunnah is also a revelation from Allah sent to our prophet through the angel Gabriel peace be upon them? What do you mean by "Derived from Jewish and Christian sources"? I've seen you debate Christians before who claim that the stories in the Quran are "Derived" or stolen from Christian and Jewish sources and you refuted that very eloquently. Do you think the stories mentioned in hadeeth are borrowed from the people of the books sources while the Quran is a revelation or what exactly do you believe? Please clarify.
The story of Hagar is slightly twisted. Hagar was not a slave... the fact that she was from Egypt and dark skin doesnt make her a slave. Hagar was given to Abraham by the Hammurabis in a friendship way. In those days polygamy was common. We have to do a lot of research.
That is not stated in the Bible. It is assumed she was a gift by the Pharoah but not clearly specified. It does state Abram receives land, animals, and slaves to leave Egypt. It is them believed she must have been a handmaiden.
If Hager is not mentioned then its not worthy of mentioning. Quran delivers the msg to Obey Allah & dont make any partners with him, & Follow only Allah & have faith in the day of judgement. Quran tells u what to do & what not to do to be successful in hereafter. Why do people want Allah to mention the whole history of humans since the beginning? Ppl love stories but hate orders
The bible nowhere says sarai treated hagar cruelly prior to conceiving ishmael. Sarai to quote her said to abraham " i gave my slave to you and when she saw she is pregnant she looks down on me" abraham says to sarai your servant is in your own hands" Its after this that she is maltreated. Again when the angel appeared to her at beer lahai roi she was already pregnant. Gen 16
P S, why are you quoting from the Bible, I thought The Bible is corrupt according to all of you muhammadans. So why are you quoting from the corrupt book?
To me it is very funny that Muslim Traditiin makes many stories what do not mentioned in the Quran. But, we muslims are following five times pray, Hajj- what is not clearly mentioned in the Quran.
Hajj & prayer mentioned in Quran if u read Quran. Timings are there. How to pray is there. Just follow Quran. If u start following hadiths u will be lost in conflicting stories wch contradicts each other
If hagar was wife who is sarah then . And just to say that god has given command actually sounds foolish but the story from bible seems authentic as that really happens even in todays world . hearing one women's word other women is driven off .
@@enigmaticphantom8389 but Isaac is the Promised of GOD not ismael, the everlasting covenant is ISAAC , you have to believe Isaac than ismael And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. Genesis 17:19
It wasn't just an angel - it was the Angel of the Lord and the Angel of the Lord is Jesus Christ the Messiah himself. It was Jesus Christ who spoke to Hagar in the wilderness... Genesis 16 7 And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
Yes pharoahs existed at abraham's time kid. Btw your quran mentions crucification at the time of the pharaoh which is a historical blunder. First you guys fix that hole of the many holes in the quran. 🤗
@@cloudgil1862 who did Jesus call out to in the Bible while he was being hung on the Roman T bar??? Jews call Allah as Elohim (from Ellahi)!! Its also a word prohibited by them from vocal uttering unnecessarily.. they call Allah simply as Hashem - 'The Name'' Jesus called Allah as Ellahi in Hebrew or Aramaic... Allaha is also used in Aramaic..
One version of bible makes fun of him the other one says good things about him.. Samaritan Torah : he will be fertile of man, His hand will be with everyone, and everyones hand will be with him, and he will live among all his brothers Masoretic Torah and Christian bibles : And he will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every mans hand against him and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethen
Question: Is Islam a punishment for Abraham sleeping with his slave? Answer: I assume you are referring to Abraham’s relationship with his wife Sarah’s maid, Hagar, which resulted in the birth of a son, Ishmael, and the subsequent banishment of Hagar and Ishmael after the birth of Abraham and Sarah’s son, Isaac (see Gen. 16, 21). While Ishmael is honored in Islam as a prophet and patriarch, he was not the founder of Islam nor responsible for its existence. Islam began in the seventh century A.D. as a result of claims made by its prophet, Muhammad, to have received revelations from God. It would therefore be false to suppose that the existence of Islam is a “punishment” for Abraham’s actions.
It's wrong that bible to Qur'an, it's from Qur'an to bible, you all this story tellers you are lied that's why god is angry with the whole world widely, speak the truth about how it's that happens before your bible
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Will you kindly clarify my doubt cited in the COMMENTS please
Dr SHABBIR ALLEY sir,Assalam alaikum consequent to my comment though I got two replies I feel still uncomfortable with one answer addressing ALMIGHTY as God. I need your valuable reply. Please oblige. Thank you. ALLAH HAFIZ
@@rafeequeahmed8240 According to your qurans, if in doubt ask the people of the book. We live on information age, go read the Bible and compare it with the qurans. Don't be afraid to seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
@@celestinaballad9052 sir, with due respect I like to say right now I had already read the complete bible(old & new testimonials). My doubt is about the ALMIGHTY creator of this universe in proper addressing Him as per ISLAM. At the same time I will be happy if you give proper reasoning to God as well with respect to my holy QURAAN revealed by prophet MUHAMMED P B H the last messenger of the ALMIGHTY. For your information we Muslims always consider prophet ISA (JESUS) P B H as one of the MESENGERS of the ALMIGHTY. Hope U understand my feelings. Thank you sir
@@rafeequeahmed8240 Are you sure you read The Old and NT Bible. In The Bible, We call YHWH The Almighty Father whereas in islam al lah is father to none and he is not a spirit. So which direction would you go
I love the story of Hagar. It teaches us that if we feel insignificant, unseen,abandoned , that God sees us . El Roi the God who sees me.
The Palestinian was white from the Crete. islam is a lie.
The information you share on this invaluable! So I am a little embarrassed to ask such a seemingly shallow question, but would you be able to share how you style your hijab, Sister Safiyyah? It looks lovely on you Masha’Allah 😅
The Quran cannot stand alone and must rely up the Christian and Jewish bible for interpretation. Thank God he is faithful and true to his word in preserving his holy bible!
What? Their just comparing for fun. Look at the story of lot. That’s no holy book of filth
Rely? Torah and Injeel are God’s word just Quran is. And I’m not talking about 66 or so books of what you call bible written by dozens of men in different ages.
@@Tamim-uTube According to Muslim/Islamic logic, since the Quran is Allah's final revelation to mankind the Torah and New Testament and all supporting historical manuscripts are "abrogated". Subsequently, all Torahs, New Testaments, and their supporting historical documents should be burned just like all the early Qurans.
@@هدي-ه8ظIslam is based on the failure of Abraham being faithful
Allah does not repeat whole story because he already told in his book before so in quran Allah just mentiond this story in chapter 14
The first mention of tears in the Bible are Hagar's tears. God was moved by her. A beautiful moment in a hard start.
So moved he was that he kept her alive but let her struggle along so she could continue to move him. Yip sounds about right 😂
Hey, tx for listening in .
Hagar was not his wife. She was his concubine.
The Bible narrative leaves Hagar's journey and abandons them onto the wilderness giving them no real importance. For Sarah and Isaac become the focus of the Bible's attention. But the Islamic narrative gives Hagar and Ismael HUGE importance as she is tested by Allah and finally rewarded for her patience... Jews and Christians become a nation from what they believe that they are from the twelve Tribes of Israel from Isaac and Sarah...but from the Islamic perspective Allah brings in a new nation from Hagar's story and that new nation is a nation for all mankind and not based on race or language... it seems that God and shown countless mercies and tests on the descendants of the twelve Tribes and has now shifted his attention to a new ummah.
Sarah was jealous of Hagar( according to the Bible) just as Cain was jealous of abel and Satan of Adam.....there is a running trend of superiority complexes within people as this is a running illness within the hearts of people.
Sadly Zionists believe that others races are no better than they ( repeating the mantra of Satan's response to the creation of Adam 'HE ADAM IS NO BETTER THAN I!'...)
Sadly we were lied to about races in the Bible! If we read with intention…what does the Bible tell us about Moses, Sampson, Elijah, yeshua….etc… none of these people were blue eyed blondes! Most of us know this now! Coming from a green eyed blonde!
I feel so sorry for Hagar and I do believe god gave them Islam, but I believe in yeshua and I pray we can all find him and realize that ONLY Yeshua alone can bring us all together. Every “Religion “ Jews, Muslims and Christians. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Dr. Ally can you open an online islamic school for the people who have no access to proper islamic knowledge? I'm sure the ummah will be greatly benefited from it.
Biblical text does not refer to Hagar as Abraham's "wife". Abraham himself does not call Hagar his wife, i.e., (Genesis 16:6): "Abram told Sarai: “Your maid is in your power". God's angel does not call Hagar, Abraham's "wife": (Genesis 16:8-9): "Hagar, maid of Sarai, where have you come from and where are you going?” She answered, “I am running away from my mistress, Sarai.” But the LORD’s angel told her: “Go back to your mistress and submit to her authority."
Hello! I am studying religion for my undergrad, and am particularly interested in the Abrahamic religions. I am not Muslim, but want to understand more. Can you tell me where to read more about the stories of Hagar in Islam?
The holy Bible tells us that Abraham was tested by god. Abraham was old as dirt and so was his wife Sarah. They were true believers of god, but doubted they would have children. Sarah gave her servant to Abraham to give him a child…her name was Hagar. She bore a child named Ishmael. Abraham loved his son, but adored and loved Sarah more. Angels came and told them they would have their own child. Sarah laughed and was scolded… still she became pregnant and gave birth to Isaac God told Abraham to sacrifice him son Isaac and right before he did it god said to stop. Then sent Hagar and Ishmael away. Sad Bible story.
Hence, god told Abraham he would give Ishmael a kingdom…it was Islam
Thank you, may Allah bless you ❤
What miraculous thing happened to prevent pharaoh from taking sara.
Biblical stories are wierd
Biblical stories are all so very weird, (3=1!!!) , yet many Muslims take them as facts!
Mah Nas Jesus Christ (pbuh) took 1 as a fact, Alhumdulilah
For that you have to read the whole chapter not listen to islamic apologists and your poorly written and plagarized quran with holes in the narrative.
@@alangervasis the labyrinth you call bible?
@@maji9193 No the quran with lost chapters about breast feeding an adult and stoning eaten by aisha's goat 😉
Respected Dr. Shabbir alley sir, I beg your pardon please. Will you kindly clarify my doubt which is the best way of addressing the Almighty ALLAH or God. Please kindly clarify
Allah!
@Yotchat Margui thank you!
@Yotchat Margui sir, Assalam alaikum thank you for your timely reply. Sir still I feel uncomfortable in addressing ALMIGHTY as God. Please pardon me in case you feel me wrong. I am a novice in front of learned Islamic scholars. Thank you sir. ALLAH HAFIZ
@@rafeequeahmed8240
ﷲ (Allah) ﷻ
Has 99 names address him by any of those names which corresponds to the response you want to get.
Back to BIBLE
Because Isaac is the PROMISED OF GOD AND THE EVERLASTING COVENANT
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
Genesis 17:19
In bible.. both sarah & hagar is presented in a right way...
I recently completed reading Genesis.. & from.. That.. I never felt... The way.. This gentlemen has represented sarah's behavior.. In bible.... Also.. The next point.. That the respected person has said.. Is that.. About the water.. Story in quran.. Yes its mention in bible too... & I hv loved the way.... Everything's written in bible....
Please explain how Ishmael both can be about 15 years old when Sara ask Abraham to send them away and a baby when Hagar and Ishmael are located in Mecca?
Salamu alayk. That is not in any ilamaic book, nor Quran or any sahih or good hdith.
This is from the jews a d christians, Our view is that he was still a baby, when he was sendt to mecca with hajar.
This is my knowledge, if I said anything wrong, then I am wrong.
Barka Allahu feek. BROTHER
Allah knows best
This narrative is in the Bible not in the Islamic tradition. Only the bible has this inconsistency.
@@Soyodi If The Bible is inconsistent why did your qurans borrowed or took the names of the Old Testament Prophet and made them somehow in your qurans..Tell us more about being consistent
@@celestinaballad9052 consistency is when the same God of Prophet Abraham Moses and Jesus And Prophet Muhammad ﷺ reveal the same message and the Prophets preach the same thing. Inconsistency is when man comes and distort the same message.
The fact the the God of the Quran tells similar story to that of the Bible indicates that we believe in the same God. It would be more inconsistent if there is too much dissimilarity.
Understand that Islam was not founded by Prophet Muhammad ﷺ but the message was perfected though him.
Ask yourself this why do Jews and Muslims believe in just One God and not the trinity. How can it be logical and conceivable that God has to become a man to sacrifice himself in order to forgive. True forgiveness is obtained only though repentance and through God's mercy.
God told Hagar Ishmael would be "a wild ass of a man," who would always be at odds with other men. Early in the discussion I caught a brief, vague allusion to that with no further discussion.
You lack basic knowledge, indeed Ishmael was the first son and he was the one God commanded Abraham to sacrifice but instead an animal was put and Abraham fulfilled the test.
@@thethankfulservant9808 how he is not the PROMISED OF GOD, it is ISAAC not Ismael , Isaac is the everlasting COVENANT
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
Genesis 17:19
@@amiblessed2083
Amen
And Ismael will always be at feud with his brothers
@@ulrikanilsson531 Don't be a simp for the Yahud.
"Hagar" was not homemaid neither concubine.
And surely she was not the wife of Abraham. The status of ' wife' was hold by Sarah only.
Exactly. I read that she was given to Abraham in a friendly way. Maybe because she was dark skin from Egypt she was not favoured by Abraham's household.
@@jollyfeby6656 No, she was his wife. Sarai was his wife as well. Polygamy was common in those days. It was an arranged marriage from the Egyptians to Abraham.
@@smileylady485That is not stated in the Bible.
@@Crissy_tina You don't know your Bible. When you speak, do so with knowledge, otherwise remain silent. Here is your source from Genesis 16:3 - "And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife."
The bible have a totally different meaning than the Quran story of Hagar.
It is good to find the truth about Hager that you need to go to the Holy Bible. The Angel that sent Hager back is the Angel of the Lord which is God himself.
I understood that the Angel was Jibreel. How do you say it is Allah?
@@jame2182 only one of us can be right, guess the first one who dies me or you will know who was right and who was wrong, you say the angel was Allah i say its God himself whose name is Yshua the I AM the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
Hagar went away to Mecca
@@RajSingh-sz1nb he does not say god was allah... He says angel gabriel(jeebrail in islam)
Didnt u hear that running away story is a christian version but not a
muslim one? Also meant we dont acknowledge Sarah's meanness towards Hagar . Nor to god or Ibrahim being dictated around by Sarah. God has his own plans n all parties abide by it .
What is the correct pronunciation of Hagar's name? Is it HAYGAR or is it HAJER, the A sounding like short O as in hop top mop - Hojer?
@5:34 to 5:42 "the story that is mentioned in the hadeeth, probably, to a large extent, derived from Jewish and Christian sources"?! Dr. Shabir Ali, do you not believe that the Sunnah is also a revelation from Allah sent to our prophet through the angel Gabriel peace be upon them? What do you mean by "Derived from Jewish and Christian sources"? I've seen you debate Christians before who claim that the stories in the Quran are "Derived" or stolen from Christian and Jewish sources and you refuted that very eloquently. Do you think the stories mentioned in hadeeth are borrowed from the people of the books sources while the Quran is a revelation or what exactly do you believe? Please clarify.
You need to go to hid office and ask him
As a Christian named Jesus Ishmael this is very interesting ty
The story of Hagar is slightly twisted. Hagar was not a slave... the fact that she was from Egypt and dark skin doesnt make her a slave. Hagar was given to Abraham by the Hammurabis in a friendship way. In those days polygamy was common. We have to do a lot of research.
That is not stated in the Bible. It is assumed she was a gift by the Pharoah but not clearly specified. It does state Abram receives land, animals, and slaves to leave Egypt. It is them believed she must have been a handmaiden.
If Hager is not mentioned then its not worthy of mentioning. Quran delivers the msg to Obey Allah & dont make any partners with him, & Follow only Allah & have faith in the day of judgement. Quran tells u what to do & what not to do to be successful in hereafter. Why do people want Allah to mention the whole history of humans since the beginning? Ppl love stories but hate orders
@@cloudgil1862 nailed it 😆
The bible nowhere says sarai treated hagar cruelly prior to conceiving ishmael. Sarai to quote her said to abraham " i gave my slave to you and when she saw she is pregnant she looks down on me" abraham says to sarai your servant is in your own hands" Its after this that she is maltreated. Again when the angel appeared to her at beer lahai roi she was already pregnant. Gen 16
Okay
Cool
noted and thank you amigo
P S, why are you quoting from the Bible, I thought The Bible is corrupt according to all of you muhammadans. So why are you quoting from the corrupt book?
@@celestinaballad9052 I am not a muslim
I just love you..dr.shabir aaly
To me it is very funny that Muslim Traditiin makes many stories what do not mentioned in the Quran.
But, we muslims are following five times pray, Hajj- what is not clearly mentioned in the Quran.
Hajj & prayer mentioned in Quran if u read Quran. Timings are there. How to pray is there. Just follow Quran. If u start following hadiths u will be lost in conflicting stories wch contradicts each other
Are you praying?
@arsyka namaz is copied from Zoroastrianism prayers and hajj is copied from hinduism traditiona of shiva temple
If hagar was wife who is sarah then . And just to say that god has given command actually sounds foolish but the story from bible seems authentic as that really happens even in todays world . hearing one women's word other women is driven off .
Hagar was Abraham's slave. Polygamy was common in those days.
@@enigmaticphantom8389 but Isaac is the Promised of GOD not ismael, the everlasting covenant is ISAAC , you have to believe Isaac than ismael
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
Genesis 17:19
It wasn't just an angel - it was the Angel of the Lord and the Angel of the Lord is Jesus Christ the Messiah himself. It was Jesus Christ who spoke to Hagar in the wilderness...
Genesis 16
7 And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
That's your understanding
Thought pharaoh never existed during Abraham time
pharoah is ruler of egypt. theyve been around for a while. not the same pharoah as in moses time
I opine pharaohs the Egyptian rulers are different at the times of prophets IBRAHIM P B H & MOOSA P B H
Yes pharoahs existed at abraham's time kid. Btw your quran mentions crucification at the time of the pharaoh which is a historical blunder. First you guys fix that hole of the many holes in the quran. 🤗
@@alangervasis Muslims don't believe in cruxification.first make ur factual knowledge correct.
Haagaar! 😖 not Haygur please!!
Isaac, the son of promise
HEYGER???
Alhamdulillah
actually Allah in the Bible promised Abraham that his son will be taken care of. There would be a nation under Ishmael, hence the Ishmaelites,
Okay
Cool
@@cloudgil1862 if i was reading the bible in Arabic it would in there. Smh
@@cloudgil1862 who did Jesus call out to in the Bible while he was being hung on the Roman T bar???
Jews call Allah as Elohim (from Ellahi)!! Its also a word prohibited by them from vocal uttering unnecessarily.. they call Allah simply as Hashem - 'The Name''
Jesus called Allah as Ellahi in Hebrew or Aramaic... Allaha is also used in Aramaic..
One version of bible makes fun of him the other one says good things about him..
Samaritan Torah : he will be fertile of man, His hand will be with everyone, and everyones hand will be with him, and he will live among all his brothers
Masoretic Torah and Christian bibles : And he will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every mans hand against him and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethen
Question:
Is Islam a punishment for Abraham sleeping with his slave?
Answer:
I assume you are referring to Abraham’s relationship with his wife Sarah’s maid, Hagar, which resulted in the birth of a son, Ishmael, and the subsequent banishment of Hagar and Ishmael after the birth of Abraham and Sarah’s son, Isaac (see Gen. 16, 21). While Ishmael is honored in Islam as a prophet and patriarch, he was not the founder of Islam nor responsible for its existence.
Islam began in the seventh century A.D. as a result of claims made by its prophet, Muhammad, to have received revelations from God. It would therefore be false to suppose that the existence of Islam is a “punishment” for Abraham’s actions.
Islam began with Adam PBUH.
It's wrong that bible to Qur'an, it's from Qur'an to bible, you all this story tellers you are lied that's why god is angry with the whole world widely, speak the truth about how it's that happens before your bible