This is awesome video. Been on servicing for 6 months and now been moved onto breakdowns. Wiring center scrambles my brain but this simplified explanation helps a lot. Cheers keep up good work.
You’re so kind and gentle with your teaching we need more engineers like you loved it I remember going to a Honeywell training course for this and paying £30 and I can honestly say yours explanation was better
Yep, the motorised valve cam wasn't hitting the microswitch, so just bent the striker tab a bit and it all works fine now. Thanks again for your help:)
Stunning presentation. Very comprehensive and well explained. Real world experiences and examples. Belive me, understanding this is So IMPORTANT, especially for diagnosis purposes
That was so helpful thanks, I suspect that my hot water 2 port valve is faulty. The thermostat works and the valve opens but there is no call for heat and the pump doesn't kick in. So I suspect that the grey wire is not switching power to the orange wire.
Nicely explained - similar to how I learned it all 20 years ago.... Fond memories of only having to deal with 1 heating zone when now we are dealing with 20 or 30 in some houses..... And BUS control protocols too.
well explained, my question is, i have two zone valves controling down stairs and upstairs + loft. worscester bosch said to increase flow rate to loft area i will need to add an extra pump, ( i understand this ) to connect the pump brown, blue, earth. to the 2port valve. i need to send power from the zone valve (brown wire) to brown wire on pump. blue green wires go to N& E on the zone valve or wiring centre, orange wire is already sends power to boiler to fire up. i only need a switched brown wire to activate the pump once the zone valve is switched on, is this okay and will work. many thanks for you help
Hi, I have drayton lifestyle lp111 for heating the water with 2 danfoss tp5000 thermostat for heating. I would like to replace it with smart system. Can you please let me know which system I need to buy to replace this or will I need new wiring to put in the system
@@teejayjenkins8795 Thanks. Honestly, this was one of the most difficult videos I ever did. I just didn't know where to start. The next one is a lot more wiring focused. Soon hopefully. :-)
When I first started I went on all the courses for wiring and spent days doing the honeywell and danfoss course and could wire a system if it was clean or from scratch, then someone told me to do it how you said as a sequence not as like components with numbers and diagrams and I wish I was taught it your way from day one and then did the wiring courses.
Great videos and really helpful. You mentioned about how to wire slightly differently to add a pump over run to older systems but never explained it. Could you help me out there?
The boiler will have a PL terminal. You would add the Pump Live to this terminal and the boiler would need a permanent live to control the pump from. So 1 wire in a different place and another (permanent live) extra wire to the boiler.
Superb videos thank you. I can tell that you're the Dude they send in when all the others have been.. Can you diagnose this please: I recently changed the bypass relief valve because it was stuck open. I am carrying out a series of flushes to clean the system drain+refill. Suddenly the room stat switches off boiler live when temp reached?
I remember Len 😂 Al told me a story about when he dropped the cap for a thumb vent and used his hand to keep it from leaking everywhere only problem was the system water temperature was scalding and absolutely destroyed the palm of his hand 🤚 proper old school engineer 😂
@@HeatingGeek yea I think about him and the little way he had his van all set up and everything had its place and I mean I did the majority of my apprenticeship with Al and we used to have a right laugh working together, crazy moments like when I dropped a double panel 2m rad from standing vertically unwrapping it from the plastic and it just dropped all the way down straight and just clipped my big toe but absolutely crushed it Al scooped me up and carried me into a and e with my foot in a bag with a blood soaked sock drove all the way from portpool lane to north mid hospital absolute legend he was
Hi Ollie, Thanks for all good videos. Pls a quick question: is there any training centre or book you recommend about hydraulic separation, low loss headers, close coupled tees Also about weather compensation and UFH Much appreciated
Hi Ollie, thank you very much for sharing your experience with us by making those great videos. Another great videos like always can't wait to watch next one. 👍
@10:51 you talk about grey and orange making the switch to turn the boiler on. Are you sure is not brown and orange.? Apply power to brown then the microswitch in the valve closes and orange has 230v Grey is the permanent live,
Because they are for boilers with tanks built into them. So the boilers have to be very large and at thet point, a lot of people will just go for unvented cylinder.
in future videos you might want to discuss volt free rather than 240vAC switching..... Lots of boilers go bang because newbies are chucking mains voltage onto a ELV control circuit. Not to mention Opentherm and BUS stuff.
I didn’t think you would get 240 on grey If the cylinder stat was calling? 240 on Grey if it’s satisfied ? Wouldn’t you get 240 on orange if it was calling( I have assumed heating is off)
240v on grey when either cylinder stat is satisfied or programmer is off for HW. The 240v on the orange when just HW is calling actually comes from the cylinder stat. The cylinder stat demand is wired in with the orange. hope that makes sense
@@HeatingGeek 🤣 it does mate - I think I have replied to the wrong video. I watched one where the engineer was checking for a faulty cylinder stat and said to turn the stat up to call for HW and check for 240 on grey not orange - your vids are brilliant - so we’ll explained
The boiler usually controls the pump overrun. So, the boiler needs Permanent live, neutral, earth, switch live and pump live wires. The pump live wire goes to the pump live. So additionally to what these 3 videos show you need 2 extra wires to the boiler and the live into the pump gets joined to pump live from the boiler.
@@HeatingGeek hi thanks for Ripley but I am asking u for only heat boiler which is not have inbuilt pump I am using big pump but just overrun need to find
@@zakp1326 I know. If the boiler requires pump overrun it controls it. Like the baxi solo 3 potterton suprima. Vaillant ecotec 428 etc etc. Baxi 240340 is a pump overrun kit you might be able to use? Im not sure what boiler you have.
you uploaded the wrong video oli? i do have an issue tho. currently an s plan system... ive wired up another pump and zone valve (for an extention they wanted to be seperate.) it works fine on its own, but when the rest of the house heating is on it trips the full electrics, also if the house heating is on without the extention it works fine... confused me and i had enough so i left to go with a fresh head. but i am 99% sure its correct cos it works fine on its own, its just the 1% is cos it trips when rest of the house kicks in :-/ thanks brendan ps love the videos mate!
Thanks boss, when the pdf is ready I will be happy to pay without question. I have been following all your RUclips videos and they are very informative. Thanks
It went up for 5 min and some people managed to watch it. I took it down to fix the sound and add some bits in. I CAN'T FIX THE SOUND NO MATTER WHAT I DO, SO GAVE UP. :-) Well done for watching it last week.
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This is awesome video. Been on servicing for 6 months and now been moved onto breakdowns. Wiring center scrambles my brain but this simplified explanation helps a lot. Cheers keep up good work.
You’re so kind and gentle with your teaching we need more engineers like you loved it I remember going to a Honeywell training course for this and paying £30 and I can honestly say yours explanation was better
Wow, thank you! :-)
You’re a brilliant teacher the way you install confidence
Thanks. :-)
As an apprentice electrician glad there are people like you out there breaking it down and explaining it better than my tradesme
Glad you like it. I will get the next part up when I can. :-)
Thanks mate. Apprentice here. your vid is clear and precise.
Nice one. Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully, you find the next one ok too. I'm getting mixed reviews
I transformed my heat only central heating system into an S plan, thanks in no small part to your videos. Thank you.
Glad to help. Did you add a cylinder?
This is the best explanation I have seen. I remember struggling with this, twenty years ago. Brilliant.
I think we all struggle with this at the beginning. Thats why I did it.
Wish I found you sooner! Thank you very much for passing on the knowledge in an easy to understand, no nonsense way.
Happy to help!
Brilliant video broke it down to look as simple as it is
Thank you for explaining how S plan works made it so easy for me 👍🏾
Glad it was helpful! Thats why I did it. :-)
Quality all the way with style and content.
Needed this for my interview on 25th Thanks mate! Plus if that’s 11:30pm you are a work horse 😅💪🏻
Happy to help! Yep 11:30pm....
Thanks. It is now all clear. Great explanation.
Great. Im glad it helped.
Yep, the motorised valve cam wasn't hitting the microswitch, so just bent the striker tab a bit and it all works fine now. Thanks again for your help:)
Glad I could help :-)
This is really good stuff bro. You're a genius! I ve learnt so much from you and your videos actually give me confidence to do my job with ease
Nice one. Need some positive feedback after the BS I get on FB, :-) Hopefully the next part will come soon.
I'll be looking forward to it.
Stunning presentation. Very comprehensive and well explained. Real world experiences and examples. Belive me, understanding this is So IMPORTANT, especially for diagnosis purposes
Thanks. It is very important and once you get it you don't forget it. :-)
Brown is the live from the room stat or cylinder stat
If no 240 on brown fault lies before motorised valve.
hope that makes sense !!
@@DHILL82 Yes. I think about it as the valve is the centre point of the wiring. But really it's just a good reference point to start from. :-)
HeatingGeek legend my man. Love the videos. !!
@@DHILL82 Thanks. :-) Some pretty rough ones to come and then the 3 port and wiring center. :-)
That was so helpful thanks, I suspect that my hot water 2 port valve is faulty. The thermostat works and the valve opens but there is no call for heat and the pump doesn't kick in. So I suspect that the grey wire is not switching power to the orange wire.
Nicely explained - similar to how I learned it all 20 years ago.... Fond memories of only having to deal with 1 heating zone when now we are dealing with 20 or 30 in some houses..... And BUS control protocols too.
Its all a bit much when trying to fault find. Opentherm etc..
Cracking channel mate.... appreciated the Info... great job. 👍🏻👍🏻
Keep these coming ... really good videos mate 👍
Glad you like them. :-)
Well done great video... Well done Drayton .
Brilliant explanation,Thanks
Glad it was helpful! :-) thanks for commenting
Excellent explanation thank you very much mate 🙏💐
No problem. Glad it helped.
Thankyou so much . You have a sensable intellegent approach and you are careing and easy to listen to . GOOD MAN ! Thankyou
I'm glad you like it. It was difficult to decide how to do it. Marmite this one. :-)
well explained, my question is, i have two zone valves controling down stairs and upstairs + loft. worscester bosch said to increase flow rate to loft area i will need to add an extra pump, ( i understand this ) to connect the pump brown, blue, earth. to the 2port valve. i need to send power from the zone valve (brown wire) to brown wire on pump. blue green wires go to N& E on the zone valve or wiring centre, orange wire is already sends power to boiler to fire up. i only need a switched brown wire to activate the pump once the zone valve is switched on, is this okay and will work. many thanks for you help
Sorry I didn’t respond to this comment. I didn’t see it in my feed. :-(
Great video 👍🏼
Hi fella. Could you do the same type of video combining 3 port Valve with hive hub and controller. Cheers
Sorry I didn’t respond to this comment. I didn’t see it in my feed. :-(
Great method of teaching... I'll put your video to use
Good. I do try and think about it before I film it. :-)
Hi, I have drayton lifestyle lp111 for heating the water with 2 danfoss tp5000 thermostat for heating. I would like to replace it with smart system.
Can you please let me know which system I need to buy to replace this or will I need new wiring to put in the system
Very nice one. Thank you so much for a great effort for all of us
No problem. Glad it helps/:-)
Great vid mate. So good to have a simple explanation for once. Awesome stuff 👍👌
If you can get your head around this the 3 port video will be really easy. :-) Its coming soon.
@@HeatingGeek to be fair a 3 port vid with a simple explanation would be brilliant.
@@whitebear5405 It's filmed and will be coming very soon. :-)
Great video mate will show the apprentice this tomorrow and get him memorising! Top man 👏🏼👏🏼
I know its only basic but you have to start somewhere. :-)
@@HeatingGeek we all started at the beginning, and look where you are now, in my eyes one of the best technical heads out there
@@teejayjenkins8795 Thanks. Honestly, this was one of the most difficult videos I ever did. I just didn't know where to start. The next one is a lot more wiring focused. Soon hopefully. :-)
When I first started I went on all the courses for wiring and spent days doing the honeywell and danfoss course and could wire a system if it was clean or from scratch, then someone told me to do it how you said as a sequence not as like components with numbers and diagrams and I wish I was taught it your way from day one and then did the wiring courses.
I think this is the easier way for us guys to understand the system. ;-)
excellent description
Very well put.cracking video for the new guy's coming into the job.
Thanks. That's why I did it that way. Glad you like it. :-)
Thank you so much for explaining it properly
No problem. ;-)
Great videos and really helpful. You mentioned about how to wire slightly differently to add a pump over run to older systems but never explained it. Could you help me out there?
The boiler will have a PL terminal. You would add the Pump Live to this terminal and the boiler would need a permanent live to control the pump from. So 1 wire in a different place and another (permanent live) extra wire to the boiler.
God bless you brother
Great video mate👍 I appreciate the time and effort you put into theses videos 👏
Thanks. I'm working on the next one now. :-)
This is a really good video
Superb videos thank you. I can tell that you're the Dude they send in when all the others have been..
Can you diagnose this please: I recently changed the bypass relief valve because it was stuck open. I am carrying out a series of flushes to clean the system drain+refill. Suddenly the room stat switches off boiler live when temp reached?
I remember Len 😂 Al told me a story about when he dropped the cap for a thumb vent and used his hand to keep it from leaking everywhere only problem was the system water temperature was scalding and absolutely destroyed the palm of his hand 🤚 proper old school engineer 😂
Are you Als nephew?
@@HeatingGeek yea mate you heard about lil al ?
@@aaronchapman6994 Yeah, I was having issues at the time of the funeral so I couldn't make it. You still at Oakray?
@@aaronchapman6994 I actually think about him all the time.
@@HeatingGeek yea I think about him and the little way he had his van all set up and everything had its place and I mean I did the majority of my apprenticeship with Al and we used to have a right laugh working together, crazy moments like when I dropped a double panel 2m rad from standing vertically unwrapping it from the plastic and it just dropped all the way down straight and just clipped my big toe but absolutely crushed it Al scooped me up and carried me into a and e with my foot in a bag with a blood soaked sock drove all the way from portpool lane to north mid hospital absolute legend he was
Brilliant! Patent the daisy chain method👍
If you could patent it I would. :-)
This helped understand better thanks
Good I'm glad it helps. :-)
Hi Ollie,
Thanks for all good videos.
Pls a quick question: is there any training centre or book you recommend about hydraulic separation, low loss headers, close coupled tees
Also about weather compensation and UFH
Much appreciated
Check out Heat Geek. He has loads of good videos about that sort of thing.
Great video mate
Thanks. :-)
Hi Ollie, thank you very much for sharing your experience with us by making those great videos. Another great videos like always can't wait to watch next one. 👍
Thanks for watching it. I have loaded the next part into the editing software so hopefully within a couple of weeks. :-)
Looking forward to see the next one. I watched all of em since I'm in this trade. Even some of em I watched 3 or 4 times.
@@jewelahmed6197 ASAP. :-)
Well done mate, Cheers
Glad you like it. :-)
Super valuable vid, thanks mate 👍
No problem, Glad you like it. :-)
Hi what's the thickness of 5 core cable. 1.5mm , 2.5mm??
I like 1mm but often it is 0.75
@10:51 you talk about grey and orange making the switch to turn the boiler on.
Are you sure is not brown and orange.? Apply power to brown then the microswitch in the valve closes and orange has 230v
Grey is the permanent live,
No, Its grey and orange that touch. Brown Is what drives the motor to open the valve. Grey and orange attach to the microswitch. :-)
How u doing mate,,,
Another useful one
Glad you like it. It was really frustrating to get sound issues again.
Mate can I ask for some help? Why if shunt pumps are so effective are they not fitted on all boilers?
Because they are for boilers with tanks built into them. So the boilers have to be very large and at thet point, a lot of people will just go for unvented cylinder.
in future videos you might want to discuss volt free rather than 240vAC switching..... Lots of boilers go bang because newbies are chucking mains voltage onto a ELV control circuit. Not to mention Opentherm and BUS stuff.
Your right but that's another video. I was just talking about this with someone last week. :-)
Spotted a volt free question on Allen Hart's channel yesterday. The advice given wasn't optimum.
Love the way the sparky wired it wrong 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My brothers a sparks. Hasn't got a clue with heating systems
another great video... how do you become a patreon…?? great vids for training and learning..
Just follow the link in the description. ( I think it there) :-)
I didn’t think you would get 240 on grey If the cylinder stat was calling? 240 on Grey if it’s satisfied ? Wouldn’t you get 240 on orange if it was calling( I have assumed heating is off)
240v on grey when either cylinder stat is satisfied or programmer is off for HW. The 240v on the orange when just HW is calling actually comes from the cylinder stat. The cylinder stat demand is wired in with the orange.
hope that makes sense
@@HeatingGeek 🤣 it does mate - I think I have replied to the wrong video. I watched one where the engineer was checking for a faulty cylinder stat and said to turn the stat up to call for HW and check for 240 on grey not orange - your vids are brilliant - so we’ll explained
Can you not buy an s plan or y plan board from somewhere just to get practice?
I don't know. I'm sure someone must do one.
Very well broken down
Thanks. :-)
Your amazing
Sorry I didn’t respond to this comment. I didn’t see it in my feed. :-(
Great vid
Thanks. :-)
Hi how can I overrun pump in only heat boiler
The boiler usually controls the pump overrun. So, the boiler needs Permanent live, neutral, earth, switch live and pump live wires. The pump live wire goes to the pump live.
So additionally to what these 3 videos show you need 2 extra wires to the boiler and the live into the pump gets joined to pump live from the boiler.
@@HeatingGeek hi thanks for Ripley but I am asking u for only heat boiler which is not have inbuilt pump I am using big pump but just overrun need to find
@@zakp1326 I know. If the boiler requires pump overrun it controls it. Like the baxi solo 3 potterton suprima. Vaillant ecotec 428 etc etc. Baxi 240340 is a pump overrun kit you might be able to use? Im not sure what boiler you have.
@@HeatingGeek hi good morning thank you so much now I understand u r very helpful
@@zakp1326 No problem. What boiler was it on?
Please tell me if you are selling fault finding videos
No I don't. I have some extra stuff on patreon but its not videos.
Anything for part 2 yet?
It there now. :-)
you uploaded the wrong video oli?
i do have an issue tho.
currently an s plan system... ive wired up another pump and zone valve (for an extention they wanted to be seperate.) it works fine on its own, but when the rest of the house heating is on it trips the full electrics, also if the house heating is on without the extention it works fine... confused me and i had enough so i left to go with a fresh head. but i am 99% sure its correct cos it works fine on its own, its just the 1% is cos it trips when rest of the house kicks in :-/
thanks
brendan
ps love the videos mate!
It's not uncommon to see 3 zones now days Upstairs, downstairs & hot water so it shouldn't be an issue.
What fuse is blowing? Spur or RCD in fuse box?
Thanks boss, when the pdf is ready I will be happy to pay without question. I have been following all your RUclips videos and they are very informative. Thanks
Get rid of the spare pump and do the job properly ;)
Why do people like adding pumps all over the place ??????
@@martinasher8705 I've got a 3 bedroom house - 5 zones ;)
you have a cold a lot is it s columbian cold by any chance
May drawing diagram with help a lot better . Thanks
Lovely
Glad you like it. :-)
Great explanation
How do I become a patriot?
Child’s play, just fitted a Tado Y plan easier then child’s play
Hi Ollie, am I going mad or did I watch this video from you a week ago
Yeah me too, but nevemind - great video!
It went up for 5 min and some people managed to watch it. I took it down to fix the sound and add some bits in. I CAN'T FIX THE SOUND NO MATTER WHAT I DO, SO GAVE UP. :-) Well done for watching it last week.
Suppose you have only one motorised valve
Sorry I didn’t respond to this comment. I didn’t see it in my feed. :-(
No dust sheet, failed.
You a BG manager :-)
@@HeatingGeek 😉😂😂😂😂 Nah just lost my ear a couple times for this
Electrical cables coming out of a hole poked in the wall. Tut tut tut no standards in England.