The Missed Potential of Azan (Berserk)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2018
- Whilst Miura usually hits the mark on the majority of the characters he has crafted in Berserk, there are rare times when there is a character with a lot of potential which just never gets fulfilled.
Azan is one such character in my humble opinion, and this is what will be discussed in this video.
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He sadly got the Puck treatment: turned into a comedic relief as result of the many aditions to the main cast.
I’m still salty about puck. When’s the last time we even saw him in non-chestnut form
Miura pulled a Tenshinham on him. Guy had an interesting backstory and motivation in classic dragonball but in Z he bacame just the 3 eyed dude standing in the background
Feels like half of the cast right now is just comic relief, it's getting real annoying, I hope we get back to the tone of golden age where we got tiny bits of well done humor instead of shovering it at our face all the time
Puck/Guts comradery was one of the best parts of Berserk to me, then Miura forgot that Puck was a character.
@Arusiek90 it's understandable when introduce a vast variety of other characters you would want to develop them instead, and he plotted it out where it made sense for puck to act that ,if he didn't he would be static and poorly realised
I honestly forgot he existed
yeah i did to
One of the reasons I like the genre of dark fantasy stories like Berserk is that when light does appear it shines even brighter.
As one may say, a light in the night is worth more than light in the day.
EXACTLY. I feel the exact same way
Yeah its weird that Azan is now just cool with Guts and joins the journey almost no questions asked. Miura could’ve given a short speech of Azan wanting to fullfill his loyalty to Farnese or maybe even trying to get convert her back to religion you know some kinda motive. Hopefully him and Isma get a little more depth as the story goes.
Not just them but Puck need to see him mature before he is killed to help Isidro get serious I hope also Azan talks to Guts and Casca in the coming chapters he is one of the strongest warriors and probably can offer some words of wisdom
he became a dwarf he is not azan xD, no but really i think he was taller
Yes for Isma!!!
I want to see Isidro and Isma getting it on
The thing is that Isma has had a ton of character development, Azan hasn't.
Honestly I still have hope that Miura is gonna do something with Azan since he joined the party when they got on the boat
Feloko he'll use Guts' Behelit
@@Skychord-ux1is shit no no no NO!!!
@@Skychord-ux1is Nah, that will be Puck, he touched the Behelit first and is actually his.
Anyone ever watch "Gargoyles" back in the 90s? I wanted Azan to be the "Hudson" of Guts' party. The old, wise man-type. He could offer his worldly advice and support to Guts, who ALREADY respects him because Azan is legend in the Berserk world. Dare I say he could even "refine" Guts' rough edges.
Putting a chivalrous "bow" on Guts' barbarity. But yeah, his over-the-top chivalry IS played for laughs.
Edward Gaines i too thought the same
He'll probably be the trainer for the elfhelm survivors and train Casca to get her original abilities and offer words of wisdom to Farnese, Serpico, Isidro, Guts and Casca
//I wanted Azan to be the "Hudson" of Guts' party.//
I honestly believe Azan will be like this in the later parts of the Fantasia Arc. Especially since Casca's mental state has been healed.
Like MAAD TEE said, he will definitely re-train Casca get back into fighting form alongside Isidro and Farnese [Red Mage equivalent]. I also picture him having some moments of snark, especially against Apostles.
Apostle: A coward in iron won't do much against me!
Azan: This coward in iron has survived worse, demon.
Damn so true he is that typical "experienced guy" in all those great stories with calm advice in any situation
@@linearman0245 Nice snark indeed! 😃
Another tragedy is that he made Azan short even though he was taller than Serpico. The reason I say this is that it was a way of making him a comic relief character since funny characters are usually portrayed as small. But Miura is dead so we might never know the fate of Azan unless his team decides to continue the book
My two characters I hope for more fleshing out.
1. Chestnut
2. Wario
Anyone think serpico is better than golden age Griffith since after the rape horse scene he and guts have a one second duel and he cuts guts cheek
I mean he literally had every possible advantage over guts
Even though guts beat serpico every time
I doubt that Serpico is an opportunist
It's pretty hard to gauge Golden Age's Griffith skills as a swordman, since we haven't seen him fight noteworthy opponents in that time period, save for a 2 on 1 with Guts against Zodd, and 2 fights with Guts, including one that was decided in one strike.
We saw Guts fight many strong knights like Bazuso, Adon, Sampson, general Boscogn (possibly the strongest human fighter to duel Guts) and Silat.
Now Griffith... sadly, aside from the skirmish with Zodd, we only saw him cut down random soldiers =/
IMHO we don't have any solid way to determine how strong he was in his prime compared to Serpico ...
He uses a slightly lighter blade but griffith new guts style very well.
Perhaps Azan will have a role to play when dealing with Griffith and Griffith's Knights. That he might be disgusted by this is what is considered "holy" nowadays.
Rock Fisher good point. There’s still more characters to be recognized that Azan is only one of many who have a story or background to be seen more of
Dark souls did him better- Onion bro had the honor cute stupidity,with a tragic edge,a full character arc That puts him way above the original source
Sander Tegneby
Yeah man. I wish we could have summoned him for big bossfights...
A true, maybe why Solaire is more loved. Ds3 kinda (but not really) gives you that
Although I think Berserk's writing is (almost) perfect, here you have a really good point. Azan is a missed oportunity, a little writing flaw that is easily forgiven 'cause all the rest is amazing, but if it was done right, the story would really benefit from it.
Hey hey. Azan is still there. I doubt Miura brought him back just to make him stand there with no reason.
i like better Azan over Roderick, why we need Roderick?
we never knew anything about them yet they were more interesting to me that Isidro, Isma and Roderick, at least i would prefeer the last 2 were not permanent. The loli Witch, Isidro, Isma, the elfs, too much kids in the party
@@ssj4rit puck was great during the conviction arc and his role during falcon of the millinium is understandable
@@barbablanca117 I like Isidro, but Isma should have stayed with the mermaids. She had a nice character arc and there is literally 0 reason for her to be on the island
Azan's getting expansion. I'm sure of it. He just happened to come back in at a time when the *literal actual greatest quest in the entirety of Berserk, bar one,* was nearing its end. I imagine that there will some sort of interaction between the past See knights on the island. We just didn't get to see any of it before the hiatus because 95% of the focus was on Guts and Casca.
Connor Pickens no half was Guts and his crew and the oter half was Falconia and the characters involved with that
Azan should get a short stories chapters 'cause I feel like he was like old man ronin. I mean even his recent armor looks like a mix of samurai & knight armors. He was the fabled "bridge knight" after all. Quite a thematic title as some sort of guardian to innocent passerby.
But hey, at this point, Miura should continuing the main story.
No but we need more Chestnut Puck and Isidro scenes
Oliver Aelius
Yes. Yes we do
I was being sarcastic
we need more useless characters, why stop at Isma? lets throw in a bunch of tag along comic relief characters
I'm glad Miura did let him join Guts Traveling Party and i hope some dwarf dudes give him a powerful staff or armor to deal with apostles.
The whole dedication thing I couldn’t agree more with you. A lot of people also tend to forget about what SK said to guts. "Fight or rescue...your lover will be left alone...it won't be as simple as catching two birds." Either protect Casca, or go on an endless trip of revenge to kill Griffith. It’ll be a good conversation to have regardless on weather guts will settle down or continue to pursue Griffith but judging by the end Of the manga where Casca gets her memory back, I dunno that part where she screams when she sees guts could either mean she’s angry at what he did to her (Can’t blame her, he bit her nipple) or she still doesn’t remember him and still sees him as the monster that is his alter ego. Can’t wait for the next manga, and also keep up the good work. I like you’re vids!
It would certainly be a twist if it was Azan who snaps Guts out of his mental trauma here after Frantasia Arc
FINNALY A VIDEO ABOUT AZAN!!!
This is sooo true. I remember beeing kinda sad that we only saw him in full armor at the end and I wish he and Guts would have came back to talk about his past a little more
It was pretty funny seeing him dance with those dwarfs in Elfhelm though
i don't think i've ever seen a video end so abruptly
I know this is SUPER late but...
After watching the conviction arc (yes the 2016 one..) I gotta say I do agree. It's sad to learn of Azan's (current..) fate, I was really growing to like his character, he seemed like a truly noble...well nobleman. Plus it's nice like you pointed out how he allowed us to experience a character that was seemingly religous and devout not out of fear of damnation but by genuine devotion and a sense of duty. *to be honest as far as I can tell the Berserk series seems to take a not so kindly view on religion and devoting oneself to a higher power, Guts being the ironically patron deified figure of idealized self-reliance. (which is easier I guess if you're built like a demigod already, Guts..)*
Many of Miura's recent choices can be frustrating to say the least.
Why what's he done wrong? cutting away to Griffiths was obviously how that was going to go
@@danielyoung6778 still frustrating we all wanna know what will happen to Casca and if she will activate the behelit or if she'll return to Elaine and see the long awaited convo
I do believe more is to be shown for Azan and the assassins who are helping Rickert. There’s a lot to be shown from many characters and Miura still has to think of and reveal what will be next for the story to continue. Either way it’s going to be great
Don't worry, I'm sure Azan will get some spotlight at some point.
azan is top 3 in combat in the crew, miura better do him some justice
Guts party :
Serpico - wind
Isidro - fire
Azan - earth
Half Mermaid - water
Farnese - sword / witch
Sierke - witch/ elementals link
Guts - Berserker/Demon Slayer
Casca - warrior
Another guy - Fleet Commander
Brother of Farnese - ambassador
Silat - Kushan Assassin Lord
Rickert - inventor maybe later with imbued kushan magic
😁
I think he's depicted well as someone with a shitty life that has accumulated in him forcing himself to change when it is the world around him at fault as he goes from the bridge knight to a knight of the holy iron chain to simply the mustache knight. When being addressed in his prior form it's clear he made an effort to forget it and it kinda goes without saying that whatever happened before affected him in the same way so idk it would be cool to show it but it is okay being left as all the pieces are there seeing as how it was most likely a less dramatic version of the reincarnation. He's a man with a strong moral compass that doesn't fit in the world around him, so he changes everything to find where he can be a virtuous knight. Its good shit
Azan is another pippin, I hope another eclipse doesn’t happen in the future with Guts new “band of the hawk”
We need an Azan-emote on the discord to honor and remember him
Azan kinda remains of Mario.
I hope that the elf island arc will be used to start going a bit more in depth on the new characters along with some more development for the old ones.
I was so intrigued by Azan.
I wondered two things is he a manifestation in an archetype so that people aren’t completely cynical of concepts so the idea of evil can at least lax people onto these false hopes, or, hopes at all.
And or would there be a direct correlation between him and a apostle from a knightly back around.
You referring to Locus?
Yes, Devotion to an ideal that is lofty but mundane and tested in mundane and supernatural ways; vs Devotion to an individual whom is supernatural, not yet testing this faith, not under the scrutiny of reality, not testing the faith in the 'man' vs what Locus wants to see in Griffith as a concept. It all seems fine, but what are ideals vs absolute power and absolute rule?
What excuses are made and compromises struck in one's mind to chip away at one's ideals. For someone open and practical, used to the realities of the world but pining for something they wished was true, what compromises do they subject themselves to in order to see even an perversion of that ideal come about, over the horrible mundane reality he came from.
Then look on someone who didn't break their ideals, even when they themselves broke, yet still held to their code. Faith that didn't require sacrificing their last vestiges as a broken person to become something else.
would be cool a new party formed by azan, gutss, SK and puck, so we could have more of them again, while the rest of the cast stay in the island for a while
To further illustrate this point, i didn't even know his name and i'm caught up.
Atzan is back! He still has a chance.
I remember Azan as “bridge man”
I think Azan makes an interesting counterpoint to Farnese, in that while she embraced religion as a means of finding some form of approval or acceptance, Azan is perfectly okay with serving an ideal of his faith that may make him unpopular, get him into trouble or anger 100 other men. I also had to add though, in response to 3:12 that we have seen a few noble knights in the story that are not corrupt. Raban and Boscogn both spring to mind.
There should have been a scenes where azan debates in his mind if mozgus is immoral or not. Ultimately deciding that mozgus was overly vicious
he also was taller than serpico before, now he is a dwarf
Before my reread of Berserk, I just thought Azan died in Albion during the Incarnation Cermony.
I got sad when he appeared again right before the pirate arc as a hollow shell of what he used to be
I do think Miura will still explore more about him. There's room for that, narratively speaking, and maybe he just didn't feel right developing Azan until now because of other things that were developing in world and character building. Miura is a very intuitive writer, but also a very detail focused one, and I don't think he'll just ignore it, just wait for the right timing in his guts (pun uninteded xD)
I HOPE he will get better, along with Puck. He could be a great foil to Grunbeld who is also "honourable". I just want Miura to get his shit together and do something with this manga. Make Puck a character again and give more scenes between him and Guts, give Azan backstory and development, give Isidro purpose to be in this story. You know, basics.
When you consider how Guts’ party has to ultimately somehow match up with the new band of the hawk, you’d damn well expect the probably #3 fighter on the team to get some shine
Meh I like Azan he filled in the role he was supposed to pretty well glad he didn’t die … or well at least we didn’t see it
Deity Saturn He's in the boat with Guts
Correction. He’s with them at Elf Helm and accompanying them along their journey
Sort of forget Isma, Azan, and Rodrick all exist at times.
Personally I was quite happy to see he survived. I thought he was pretty cool.
now miura is dead and we'll never know
Berserk is very well written and there are very few things I would change, but Azan is definitely one of them. I see only two course of actions, that would do his character arc justice:
1. Azan dies at his last stand in Albion, similar to his defense of the bridge, allowing others to escape
2. He protects Luca and the prostitutes and escorts them to Falconia. Their survival without any help was very farfetched and I believe Azan with his principles and insight would be an interesting addition to the story centered around Griffith.
There is no point for him to be in the Guts's group, which is full of other people and it's still growing in numbers. Only place for him is to be a comedic relief and a teacher for Isidro, but even there he's just another next to Guts and Casca.
And even though it's not a popular opinion - I actually don't mind chestnut Puck at all - he serves his purpose as a silly, childish elf, and I find his jokes hillarious. He still heals, spies and he was a guide to Elfheim after all so I don't find his potential wasted. I think it would be silly to give him some dramatic back story, ambitions and dreams. From all the 'funny' characters out there, he's the only one who is suited to be one.
I agree with everything. I think people just get upset that Puck is always drawn as his chestnut variant and not in his "real" form, but his character is fine the way it is. Azan should have just not been brought back or not be in Guts' group
While I was reading the later chapters I didn't comprehended that Azan was with Guts crew and then I noticed and I was like "Wait is that Azan?"
We are slowly seeing Gutts group being created. Crazy foreshadowing of being important fighting power for Gutts. I always find myself amazed. I really hope to see the true White Hawk legion. Not Griffith. The thing about it is that we know Gutts is the true white hawk in prophecy but the characters aren't sure yet or slowly realizing Gutts is their only hope.
Its pronounced fire-lantern, Jeez.
He is protected by God. Only those that know God can relate and understand his faith and existence (religious people can relate, too).
He has a purpose, and it is not to die prematurely, as indicated in all of the moments he was "left out". He would've definitely laid down his life for another, god (Miura) just hasn't presented that opportunity for him yet. "Not again" implies his desire, but inability to protect those whom he cared for. He has the will, but somehow, the universe undermines his efforts. Had he engaged in the battles, he'd have surely died.
"Reinfore my devotion" literally means joining Guts' party as a means to further serve God.
Churches and graven images are formed by man - true faith is tested by devotion. Farnese's religious actions were governed by men and status. Azan differs in that he is virtuous while holding no affiliation to any man-made religions or practices.
How selfish it is to ask for God's blessing, when only devoting 1 hour per week (168 hours) to him? If you were truly close to God, you would walk in his commandments for every second of your life, as Azan does. Hence, why he is comically safe in a world so evil.
It would be nice if he had some words for anyone he last saw at the tower of conviction
I actually like it that some of the characters arent explored as much. It makes the story feel more focused and centred. I mean that Azans backstory could be interesting, but it just does not have any bearing on the story right now and the fact that it was not forced in is in my eyes better, as it leaves the option to explore it in the future. (Puck is bad though. I agree with you there (; )
Yeah, true. He's one of the best character with great potential. Shame that Miura sidelined him. Oh well, can't win everything.
Azan inspired Solair of Astora change my mind
Berserk was 80% complete and on the uphill, there could’ve been more time to flush out certain characters significantly, we just don’t get to see it
*WHY DOESN'T ANYONE RECOGNIZED AZAN!?!*
Do a video on the importance of yoda puck and a video on why everyone hates Isidro
I feel like the cast, particularly Guts' group is just bloated at this point. When something happens and the characters react there are like 8 characters in a single panel. Isma has literally no reason to be on that island, Roderick has been a nothing burguer so far, Isidro hasn't gotten any development in a while, Farnese's brother is just comedic relief, Azan tho I think can still be interesting but it doesn't make any fucking sense that no one recognised him. Also am I crazy but isn't he drawn way too short these days?? I swear he was taller in the Conviction arc.
Imo that is yet to happen.
Casa dos amigos do Gutts vai enfrenatar um dos mais fortes cupinchas do Griffith, tipo o Serpico vs o bode arqueiro
I wonder why we have not once seen his face since Vritannis... Maybe he was marked by the holt see or something... It could play a role later on ^^ I hope so at least
He thinks they dont know that hes Azan and now refers to himself as the black mustached knight....
I'm not sure they did see his face once, maybe since then, maybe on the island idk
Azan had so much potential… But then he just has to buy a house. 😏
I think there just isn’t room in the narrative at this point for him. As far as the story of Guts is concerned it is unimportant and clearly he is a knight of true honor. Considering he most likely failed in his duty once again it is possible he is both too ashamed to admit what good he did in the past and also too honorable to kill himself. I’m sure we will get a bit more out of him. Rarely is a character without a somewhat satisfying resolution.
And here I thought I was the only one who thought azan just vanishing was whack, only to come back as a joke cameo companion....
I hope the belhelit is for azan honestly, it would be the best twist
tiny benkey vibe
So guts but honor instead of will power
Azan Reminds Me Of Mario In The anime.
Wait I just realized, is that soundtrack from Skyward Sword?
It's the music which plays when you train with the Heros shade in Twilight Princess.
Ooooh I knew it was Zelda related.
You say "could have" and "would be" while the manga is not finished yet. Not once have we seen Miura have a character say something which didnt have its use so I think its unfair to say that he would do that with Azan. Berserk still had a 35-30% before ending had miura not died.
Onion knight
I request azzan as dlc character in idolm@ster
If he becomes important later on then I want to know why let him join now when he is contributing nothing to the story? At this point I am not sure that the series will end well.
Yeah I don't think Miura can do much anymore, god dammit
train
One thing that is minor but I found odd about Azan is that his helmet has traditional Japanese treaments, though much of Berserk seems to take place in a english-ish landscape. Its almost like a little nod to the creators background maybe
Anakin Solo it’s obvious it’s like a samurai’s armor. Probably showing how different Azan is from most knights
@@c.galindo9639 um...I know its obvious...thats why I mentioned it....
Anakin Solo you actually stated it had Japanese treatment not explaining exactly what treatment you seen. So samurai is what you were looking for if you didn’t know what the act Japanese warrior armor was called
@@c.galindo9639 Listen, I know you want to seem super educated and smart...but lets not split hairs. You and I both know what I meant. And not to be that guy, but I work in a Japanese school, so Ive seen more than my fair share...
Not to be that guy but you made me be that guy by not addressing what you were getting at properly. And bringing up what should be common knowledge about Japanese culture doesn’t mean I am trying to seem “super educated” but addressing what you were getting at correctly. So thanks for letting me be that guy again.
Sincerely “that guy”
Anyone else think something happened to his face and that's why he doesn't remove his helmet anymore? Could he maybe, probably be an apostle in disguise..?
They should have just left him with the other group, he finds a new cause against Griffith.
I honestly hope he doesn't just do another massacre again and think we will get a reaction out of Azan's death.
I guess now it's to late
Azan could've been another survivor of an eclipse like guts but he gained his nobility after surviving it
He doesn't have a brand.
Another theory down.
The Falcon arc is the longest, but still the laziest arc
What do you mean? There is an unfinished character arc in an unfinished story, not that surprising really. The fact Azan is there at all means he's certainly gonna get some developed eventually. I agree his current gag is obnoxious, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
I hope so too. I said at the end of the video that i want Miura to return to this but from dialogue in Conviction it seems he wanted to do this sooner rather than later.
The timing just seems a bit weird is my issue. I understand Miura trying to find correct time and places but it's gonna seem weird and off if he talks about what actually happened after Griffiths rebirth to Serpico and Farnese in 5 years compared to when he was reintroduced for example.
As I said, his introduction has been kinda obnoxious. Maybe Miura isn't gonna play up that aspect of it, we don't know yet, it might develop into something greater. It's kinda obvious he'll get developed since he's here now, there isn't much we can comment on for the time being. These discussions tend to become very dated, because of that.
I can understand that perspective. I'd love to eat crow at this and be super wrong but for now all I can is wait and see
Thanks for providing your perspective though, regardless.
eh i'm fine with this, never was too crazy about azan and dont miss him
The story ain’t even over, chill
I trust Miura's take on Azan because Miura is Japanese and probably has met people with dated honor concepts in his environment. So, if Miura says this is it... then probably this is it and no more potential possible.
watch him go the way of the original Dragonball characters like Bulma, Yamcha and Tenshinham and become completely irrelevant as the series goes on