I think this would have been perfect for King's Island to put in the former spot of Vortex, but there are lots of other places it could have gone too... ValleyFair hasn't had a major new coaster since 2007. SF St Louis got a relocated Boomerang 10 years ago and is still stuck with a 35 year old piece of crap old-school Vekoma looper.
I was thinking the same thing valley fair would been a perfect option especially since their only inverting ride is corkscrew and the last coaster they got was renegade :)
Well i'm glad it went to cedar point since i still have to do TT2 since this year was a dud, and i'm from europe so i'll be back in 2026 for whats presumable gonna be the last time for a while. I do agree with you that those other 3 parks could have used it better. They really need a standout out coaster.
Valleyfair is slipping into an embarrassment of an amusement park, especially when compared to what the park used to be. Ride operations are painfully slow and everything has this dingy, filthy look to it. I get grossed-out when looking at and using the restraints on so many of the rides, like do they ever actually clean the dirt and grime off!?! There's no possible way to deny it, this park started circling the drain a few years ago! With the 50th anniversary coming, there isn't even a glimmer of hope that VF will be eligible to receive a major new attraction to celebrate and hopefully be revitalized :(
I was there this year just for a couple of hours the weather was ghorrible but it was dry for the first 3 hours so the place was empty. It looked really nice and clean then but they defently could use a new ride.
I'm very intregued with the idea of CP having a tilt coaster since they listed it on their survey a few months back as a Hyper Tilt, as it was ment to overtake SFQ's Iron Rattler as a record breaking tilt coaster. Although it's a solid edition, most of the legacy SF and CF parks could certainly use one like Carowinds, SFMM, SFOT, WOF, KI and SFOG for example
But what other park needs it and could guarantee no problems opening in 2025? CP even opens later. Even KI would be a better fit though, lacking ejector air or a dive.
I think this would have been great for a smaller scale park who is missing a solid coaster. It could have gone to any park technically but I just think that it's design would fit best at one of the mid to smaller scale parks
@@elementoftheride yes it could have gone to any park, including possibly SFM for 2026. But by early summer next year, with gov't approvals etc.? They just went through that twice this year, got to be sick of all the delays. Hopefully this just means they'll buy more with better planning.
Just trust the plan. We are only 3 months post merger. SfGA and CWL are both still doing land clearing, not even sure footers are being poured yet. This area was already mostly cleared. We don’t know if it was offered to the other parks and they turned it down. Either for budget reasons or they already have plans in motion for 26/27/28. Most parks master plans are 10-20 year cycles. I would expect KI will have something big soon since it’s 50th will be in 2026. Carowinds has snoopy coaster for 2025. B&M dive is not the same as this. Sirens curse is more of a twister style vs b&m more swooping layout. The only running tilt in the world is over 20 years old. And sirens curse maybe the first of the new generation to open to the public. A 48 inch height requirement vs a 52 inch put it into a more family friendly end of the line up. To me it’s like comparing 2 different wooden coasters because they both are wood. Parks are all about balancing offerings. Legacy six flags forgot that long ago. The legacy six flags parks are going to need some TLC over the next couple of years to bring them back from years of questionable leadership. Come 2030 we definitely will have an idea if sf and cf merger was a good idea.
ANY park could have benefitted more from this coaster…but after the Top Thrill 2 debacle, it makes sense they’d want to do something for Cedar Point to drive those ticket and season pass sales.
I think kings island, valley fair, or even Michigan's adventure. There are a few other parks that could have used an iconic coaster with the space for it, especially with a diving coasters or in this case a tilt coaster
Here’s my opinion I think Cedar Point seen the opportunity to get another new coaster no matter what it was to make it up to guest cause of top thrill 2. to being down all year plus they might see this coaster and say well we can get this one just in case top thrill two is down a lot next year also so maybe the guest won’t be so angry
Here's the thing in retrospect. Cedar Point did effectively increase season pass sales for 2025 to make up for their reliability issues in 2024, but here's the thing. If Cedar Point isn't able to open Sirens Curse in a reasonable time then it will backfire in a harsh manner. If Top Thrill 2 and Sirens Curse aren't open by 4th of July, it is going to be a nightmare for Cedar Point PR. Plus now the construction/maintenance teams at the park have to juggle both Top Thrill 2's improvements and Sirens Curse construction. If anything this is a massive gamble and only time would tell if it pays off.
I don't think CP has to do much for TT2 thats more Zamperla's problem you are however correct that it will be a nightmare for the park if both don't work. Well i resceduled my tripp for next year to 2026 so it should be running by then.
@@arturobianco848 It would still be a nightmare if Top Thrill 2 is operating but now the new Sirens Curse coaster isn't open until late in the season. There is barely anything in the ride area now with construction so it is just a massive gamble to get it open in time. If they didn't do Sirens Curse next year and Top Thrill 2 opens full time, then people would view 2025 as a net positive. However if Top Thrill 2 is fully open yet their new coaster Sirens Curse isn't available to ride, that would still be very frustrating to the guests. This is just a very high stakes gamble for the park.
I agree! As Carowinds is my home park, I think it should’ve went there with the new snoopy expansion. With that being said I hope six flags will purchase more Vekoma’s and that Carowinds could possibly get one.
Great points but I'd like to add a compromise, because I have a question, is Cedar Point replacing a coaster with Siren's Curse? If so, what's their least popular coaster? Rougarou? There are some coasters that are getting too old and losing parts availability like Iron Dragon. Cuz the compromise I can come up with here is relocating a lesser popular coaster to struggling parks like Great Escape/Michigan's Adventure/Darian Lake while SC gets built at Cedar Point. Could you imagine Gemini for example being saved by a smaller park? Silverwood did that for one of the Deja Vue rides, and I believe a Corkscrew model was saved by a smaller park as well. Michigan's Adventure's last coaster was a relocated Vekoma SLC, iirc. Obviously I wouldn't want Cedar Point to get rid of Blue Streak, Corkscrew, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, or their kiddie coasters.
If the rumors are true and this is coming from Mexico… I’d assume CP was the only park who thought they could build it quick enough to get it open for 2025! Most parks aren’t set up as well as CP for a tough, last minute job like this. I’m sure everyone at SF and CP knows it would be a better fit somewhere else…. I’m sure it is going there because that’s the only place that can open it for 2025. I doubt this has anything to do with TT2, they just don’t want it laying on the ground for potentially several years while SFMX struggles with the Mexican Government, as it won’t be making them any money.
Kentucky Kingdom should have gotten it considering they only got 4 coasters. The park just opened again if they don't start putting other rides there it will go bankrupt again
why do you use the word deserve? you make it sound like Cedar Point is some sort of recalcitrant child who got a new toy when another child deserved the toy more. it's not a matter if one park "deserves" this ride more than another . the fact is that we are not in the room with the Six Flags brass and we have no idea what goes into factoring into this decision
@@dindog22 I used the word “deserve” because I feel like Cedar Point could have got a better coaster that was designed for the park specifically which is what they deserved. They didn’t deserve a coaster that was handed down from two other parks, that would have been great at another park besides cedar point
can see them making this move to lessen the wait times for ValRaven and TT2. It worries me that Cedar Point might start adding generic layouts like Six Flags.
I think this would have been perfect for King's Island to put in the former spot of Vortex, but there are lots of other places it could have gone too... ValleyFair hasn't had a major new coaster since 2007. SF St Louis got a relocated Boomerang 10 years ago and is still stuck with a 35 year old piece of crap old-school Vekoma looper.
This should have gone to Valleyfair. They are way overdue for a coaster with inversions.
That's the perfect place for it.
I was thinking the same thing valley fair would been a perfect option especially since their only inverting ride is corkscrew and the last coaster they got was renegade :)
Yes!!!
Well i'm glad it went to cedar point since i still have to do TT2 since this year was a dud, and i'm from europe so i'll be back in 2026 for whats presumable gonna be the last time for a while.
I do agree with you that those other 3 parks could have used it better. They really need a standout out coaster.
Kings Island would’ve been a good fit for this
Valleyfair is slipping into an embarrassment of an amusement park, especially when compared to what the park used to be. Ride operations are painfully slow and everything has this dingy, filthy look to it. I get grossed-out when looking at and using the restraints on so many of the rides, like do they ever actually clean the dirt and grime off!?! There's no possible way to deny it, this park started circling the drain a few years ago! With the 50th anniversary coming, there isn't even a glimmer of hope that VF will be eligible to receive a major new attraction to celebrate and hopefully be revitalized :(
I was there this year just for a couple of hours the weather was ghorrible but it was dry for the first 3 hours so the place was empty. It looked really nice and clean then but they defently could use a new ride.
It's sad because it's true and what hurts the park is the culture of the area surrounding the park.
I'm very intregued with the idea of CP having a tilt coaster since they listed it on their survey a few months back as a Hyper Tilt, as it was ment to overtake SFQ's Iron Rattler as a record breaking tilt coaster. Although it's a solid edition, most of the legacy SF and CF parks could certainly use one like Carowinds, SFMM, SFOT, WOF, KI and SFOG for example
But what other park needs it and could guarantee no problems opening in 2025? CP even opens later. Even KI would be a better fit though, lacking ejector air or a dive.
I think this would have been great for a smaller scale park who is missing a solid coaster. It could have gone to any park technically but I just think that it's design would fit best at one of the mid to smaller scale parks
@@elementoftheride yes it could have gone to any park, including possibly SFM for 2026. But by early summer next year, with gov't approvals etc.? They just went through that twice this year, got to be sick of all the delays. Hopefully this just means they'll buy more with better planning.
Just trust the plan. We are only 3 months post merger. SfGA and CWL are both still doing land clearing, not even sure footers are being poured yet. This area was already mostly cleared. We don’t know if it was offered to the other parks and they turned it down. Either for budget reasons or they already have plans in motion for 26/27/28. Most parks master plans are 10-20 year cycles.
I would expect KI will have something big soon since it’s 50th will be in 2026. Carowinds has snoopy coaster for 2025.
B&M dive is not the same as this. Sirens curse is more of a twister style vs b&m more swooping layout. The only running tilt in the world is over 20 years old. And sirens curse maybe the first of the new generation to open to the public. A 48 inch height requirement vs a 52 inch put it into a more family friendly end of the line up. To me it’s like comparing 2 different wooden coasters because they both are wood.
Parks are all about balancing offerings. Legacy six flags forgot that long ago. The legacy six flags parks are going to need some TLC over the next couple of years to bring them back from years of questionable leadership. Come 2030 we definitely will have an idea if sf and cf merger was a good idea.
@@otterkeeper13 Kings Island’s 50th was in 2022
@@elementoftheride sorry got it mixed up with kings dominion.
@@otterkeeper13 Your good
ANY park could have benefitted more from this coaster…but after the Top Thrill 2 debacle, it makes sense they’d want to do something for Cedar Point to drive those ticket and season pass sales.
Absolutely agree with every point! Carowinds deserved a new coaster first! Their last major coaster was in 2018 or 19 with Copperhead Strike
I think kings island, valley fair, or even Michigan's adventure. There are a few other parks that could have used an iconic coaster with the space for it, especially with a diving coasters or in this case a tilt coaster
It definitely should have gone to cedar point 🔥
@@Patexer I’m not against it, but I think Cedar Point should have waited and got a more custom coaster that was made for the park
They'll get another custom coaster im glad sirens curse is coming @@elementoftheridex
Here’s my opinion I think Cedar Point seen the opportunity to get another new coaster no matter what it was to make it up to guest cause of top thrill 2. to being down all year plus they might see this coaster and say well we can get this one just in case top thrill two is down a lot next year also so maybe the guest won’t be so angry
I 100% agree with everything you said. Another park definitely deserved this but it’s still going to be an amazing ride nevertheless!
Here's the thing in retrospect.
Cedar Point did effectively increase season pass sales for 2025 to make up for their reliability issues in 2024, but here's the thing.
If Cedar Point isn't able to open Sirens Curse in a reasonable time then it will backfire in a harsh manner.
If Top Thrill 2 and Sirens Curse aren't open by 4th of July, it is going to be a nightmare for Cedar Point PR.
Plus now the construction/maintenance teams at the park have to juggle both Top Thrill 2's improvements and Sirens Curse construction.
If anything this is a massive gamble and only time would tell if it pays off.
I don't think CP has to do much for TT2 thats more Zamperla's problem you are however correct that it will be a nightmare for the park if both don't work. Well i resceduled my tripp for next year to 2026 so it should be running by then.
@@arturobianco848 It would still be a nightmare if Top Thrill 2 is operating but now the new Sirens Curse coaster isn't open until late in the season.
There is barely anything in the ride area now with construction so it is just a massive gamble to get it open in time.
If they didn't do Sirens Curse next year and Top Thrill 2 opens full time, then people would view 2025 as a net positive.
However if Top Thrill 2 is fully open yet their new coaster Sirens Curse isn't available to ride, that would still be very frustrating to the guests.
This is just a very high stakes gamble for the park.
Looks cool!
I agree! As Carowinds is my home park, I think it should’ve went there with the new snoopy expansion. With that being said I hope six flags will purchase more Vekoma’s and that Carowinds could possibly get one.
What did the son of beast crate at kings island say with the lantern?
@@picklezzzz810 I’ll get it on a community post
What cedar point lacks is a variety in coaster manufacturers if they don't install another b&m coaster for the next 15 years I'll be happy
Great points but I'd like to add a compromise, because I have a question, is Cedar Point replacing a coaster with Siren's Curse? If so, what's their least popular coaster? Rougarou? There are some coasters that are getting too old and losing parts availability like Iron Dragon. Cuz the compromise I can come up with here is relocating a lesser popular coaster to struggling parks like Great Escape/Michigan's Adventure/Darian Lake while SC gets built at Cedar Point. Could you imagine Gemini for example being saved by a smaller park? Silverwood did that for one of the Deja Vue rides, and I believe a Corkscrew model was saved by a smaller park as well. Michigan's Adventure's last coaster was a relocated Vekoma SLC, iirc. Obviously I wouldn't want Cedar Point to get rid of Blue Streak, Corkscrew, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, or their kiddie coasters.
That’s a good idea, I don’t know if cedar point thinks like that. They are not replacing a coaster with this.
If the rumors are true and this is coming from Mexico… I’d assume CP was the only park who thought they could build it quick enough to get it open for 2025!
Most parks aren’t set up as well as CP for a tough, last minute job like this. I’m sure everyone at SF and CP knows it would be a better fit somewhere else…. I’m sure it is going there because that’s the only place that can open it for 2025. I doubt this has anything to do with TT2, they just don’t want it laying on the ground for potentially several years while SFMX struggles with the Mexican Government, as it won’t be making them any money.
This would be a great coaster without the tilt feature. It's just another thing to go wrong IMO.
Kentucky Kingdom should have gotten it considering they only got 4 coasters. The park just opened again if they don't start putting other rides there it will go bankrupt again
I don’t think they could of, Kentucky kingdom isn’t in the six flags chain
They should get a Mack extreme spinner😂
Good vid but you need to mix your music a little lower it’s the same volume as your voice
@@matthewcassidy1282 Yeah in my editing app, it says the music is at a 4 and my voice is 100 so I don’t know
@@elementoftheride what app are you using?
@@matthewcassidy1282 VN, I got it when I first started and just haven’t ever invested in something with more quality
why do you use the word deserve? you make it sound like Cedar Point is some sort of recalcitrant child who got a new toy when another child deserved the toy more. it's not a matter if one park "deserves" this ride more than another . the fact is that we are not in the room with the Six Flags brass and we have no idea what goes into factoring into this decision
@@dindog22 I used the word “deserve” because I feel like Cedar Point could have got a better coaster that was designed for the park specifically which is what they deserved. They didn’t deserve a coaster that was handed down from two other parks, that would have been great at another park besides cedar point
Nah disagree cedar point should always be the best.
I agree they should be the best, and get a really good coaster that is Designed specifically for the park
can see them making this move to lessen the wait times for ValRaven and TT2. It worries me that Cedar Point might start adding generic layouts like Six Flags.