What are the Advantages of BFS vs Spinning Equipment?

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Bait Finesse System, Bait Finesse Style, BFS, Finesse Baitcasting... Whatever you call it, we can all agree on one thing: It is a unique way to catch fish. Whenever I post a fishing video using BFS, I tend to get comments asking what BFS is all about & what the advantages are. So here we are...
    Bait Finesse offers the same core value as spinning gear: the ability to cast light lures. That said, that doesn't mean these two gear types are the same. In today's video, I share three great reasons why BFS might be for you!
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    So in summary...
    1) It is fun! Or maybe you just prefer casting reels.
    2) It is an efficient way to fish (wastes. less time).
    3) It gives you more precision & the ability to slow your spool down. This makes it a great option for anglers fishing close quarters with a lot of snaggy areas.
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Комментарии • 272

  • @HobieWanKenobi
    @HobieWanKenobi 3 года назад +15

    I much prefer BFS personally. Spinning has its place and takes more skill to be accurate than a BFS reel. Line twists, controlling trajectory/speed...all that is easier for me with BFS. I fish tons on BFS and other than sub 1gr lures, I'll pick BFS. The fun factor as said in the video is all to the individual. People hating on BFS don't really need to. Some people prefer them functionally, some don't. Some people think they are not worth it, some do.
    Instead of posting negative comments, there are other ways to display your preferences with spinning. This guy recently started BFS fishing and is just giving his opinion in a very clean way. Rawrfishing does it his way, I do it my way, Angler Saito does it his own way. We all fish and like catching fish. As long as it is ethical, who cares how it is done???

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +4

      Well said brotha! I like to fish all types of equipment, especially light line oriented techniques. I just love trying new gear lol

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk 3 года назад +1

      Yes sub 1g i grab the 4wt fly rod or Tenkara Style Rod.
      .3g & .4g Trout Area Spoons are addictive.

    • @vash347
      @vash347 2 года назад +1

      A lot of his information is just wrong. I've fished for forever and love bfs but unless you're 100% dialed in with bfs specific gear you cannot do it well on baitcasters. Spinning is way more forgiving and capable. I have no idea why people think baitcasters are more accurate than spinning reels, by design they are superior.

  • @srsykes49
    @srsykes49 3 года назад +11

    For some of us....the biggest concern is COST. You can buy a spinning reel a lot cheaper than a baitcaster.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +3

      100% agree! An excellent point to bring up. BFS is getting more affordable but it still has a barrier to entry for sure.

    • @NAZFISHING928
      @NAZFISHING928 Год назад

      You can still find cheaper baitcasting systems my biggest concern is someone whos fishing spinning reels for 20 years is the learning curve with bc over spinning im learning on two 20+ year old baitcasting reels right now and its honestly so much fun and the rewarding feeling when you get it dialed just right and its makes that classic baitcaster zing after birdsnesting three or four times

    • @AverageCitizen333
      @AverageCitizen333 Год назад

      The cheapest baitcaster for BFS is about $70-75 where as you can buy a rod/reel spinning combo for UL around $30 bucks. So its deff more expensive

    • @dextersgarden404
      @dextersgarden404 3 месяца назад

      I got one on Temu for $6 that actually works well.
      ​@@AverageCitizen333

  • @FitzYakin
    @FitzYakin 3 года назад +10

    I don't know that the advantages of a BFS over a spinning reel are that great but I just love the feel of a baitcaster in my hand. And I love trying out new gear and new styles. I do agree with #2; I feel you can blast off more casts with a baitcaster over a spinning reel. Ok, I agree with #3 too 🤪. Great comparison Ethan!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      I definitely think BFS is not necessary for 99% of anglers but I do see why people use it. It does have advantages, but most of them are not that important for anglers. Regardless, it is fun XD and I am like you, I like to try new techniques.

  • @seizedcarcass8440
    @seizedcarcass8440 3 месяца назад +1

    Personally I love both. Bfs is fun more power fishing type methods like spinners,hardbaits,micro jigs,Ect. Where spinning gear can be better for dropshot,float rig,and more finesse presentations like 1/32 ounce jigs or anything that’s generally more finesse. But I’ll take either of them any day!

  • @SeaNaCl
    @SeaNaCl 23 дня назад

    Maybe it’s just me, but coming from sight fishing in saltwater I learned to just huck it and control distance with the rod tip and my left hand on the spool to the point of basically only having a 2-3 inch margin of error, making a baitcaster redundant. I don’t know many other people that do this even though it’s extremely effective and easy to learn.

  • @troyseal9877
    @troyseal9877 Год назад +4

    I think the efficiency is VERY important. Putting a lure in the water softly is important a lot of times. Accuracy too. I'm looking for a bfs reel right now. I gotta try it .

  • @Mohawx28
    @Mohawx28 2 года назад +5

    Spinning reels drag is why I keep using a spinning setup. The sound of my drag screaming is what I live for haha

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад

      Some BFS reels actually have a clicking drag too! But yeah, you can't beat a spinning reel :)

    • @DoinWhatIDo
      @DoinWhatIDo 4 месяца назад

      Haha same! 😂 Especially on my exist! I have Casting rods and reels and I rarely use them now. I rarely throw anything above 8lb line. Most of the time im using 6 lb. Line. Using spinning tackle isn't an issue for me, I might pick up a BFS just for creeks.

  • @familybudgetfisherman
    @familybudgetfisherman 3 года назад +1

    I am impressed with your argument for BFS fishing. I am a spinning combo only person. I must admit that i find it hilarious that the industry is trying to expand their low profile baitcasting equipment outside of bass fishing by packaging a "system". A system notwithstanding, I do believe that it is an excellent avenue for those of you who prefer baitcasting combos to spinning combos. Great video. I just subbed.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Thank you! Yeah BFS is definitely not for everyone. Honestly, I like it but I don't think I need it by any means. Spinning will always be my preference :)

  • @Enigma4506
    @Enigma4506 3 года назад +4

    Glad you like the reel bro! Hope to see it in more videos!

  • @crikeychief8582
    @crikeychief8582 3 года назад +2

    I purchased my first bait caster and rod 2 years ago, and I love it, perfect for predator fishing. More enjoyable to use for active fishing over open spool reels. Where as I prefer open spool reels for light rigs, and long casting bottom carp fishing. But bait casting is the one for me. Would love to travel to North America and kayak fish for bass and pike.

  • @user-hl1ul9zg1c
    @user-hl1ul9zg1c 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for that! I'm researching bfs and I think I'll stay spin. I can stop and cast and be very accurate as is.
    Cheers from Australia

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 месяца назад +1

      It’s all about preference! No need to overcomplicate things!

  • @robertemory388
    @robertemory388 3 года назад +2

    Very well said my friend,besides and what I feel is the most important fact about bfs,it affords us ultralight anglers another way/form of enjoying ultralight fishing

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Darn right! Anything with light line, just go ahead and take my money lol

  • @petewitcosky1821
    @petewitcosky1821 3 года назад +1

    I love Yards Brewing company. I lived in Philadelphia for 11 years before moving to Indiana. Miss it!! Cheers 🍻

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      I went there once on a brewery tour and it was soooo cool! Also the beer was fantastic lol

  • @scottstieber1498
    @scottstieber1498 2 года назад +1

    I know I'm late to the show.... but I just found out about BFS a couple of months ago, that said I have never liked spinning gear, it feels unbalanced and wonky to me. started fishing as a kid with Zebco 33 , so the graduation to a baitcaster was a natural transition for me. my local lakes get a lot of pressure, so switching to finesse is key. the BFS systems just appeals to me, I gave away all my spinning gear, and I have 3 BFS combos, + my six standard combos ... I think I'm covered. and thanks for the videos !!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад

      To each his own! Glad you are having fun with it Scott :)

  • @k62g58
    @k62g58 6 месяцев назад +1

    Late to this option (pretty much spinning exclusive) and was looking for info. Figures you would have content. And holding the reel I was looking at.

  • @brianathern9154
    @brianathern9154 Год назад +1

    Before I found this video I added a BFS reel to my Christmas list. I found a reel I liked and will match a rod once I have reel in hand. Definitely looking for options to throw finesse baits. The local creek challenge will be big for me. Thanks for the review Ethan. Blessings

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад +1

      Hope you enjoy it! I personally prefer ultralight spinning reels but BFS can be fun too :)

  • @DWJL511
    @DWJL511 3 года назад +1

    One of the reasons people choose BFS over UL spinning is simply because the slim profile of a BC reel looks cooler than a spinning reel that sticks out. A lot of young anglers will choose a baitcaster over a spinning reel because it doesn't look "old school." And when it comes to making accurate, stylish casts-check out Japanese BFS Angler Saito-it's always done with a baitcasting setup. I've yet to see a video of someone working a UL spinning setup with the same style and finesse as Saito. As for the "fun" factor, some say you "feel" the fight more with a baitcaster than a spinning reel, because it sits on top and closer to your hand-think of a low-riding hardtail (suspension-less) Harley that sits closer to the tarmac than a higher bike with suspension.

  • @johnbrock7528
    @johnbrock7528 Год назад +3

    you can slow down (feather) casts with spinning reel so your lures don't overcast using fingertip on edge of spool ,or if you are not worried about serious anglers laughing at you, a small spincast reel will let you make fast casts and instant retrieves before lure can sink and snag in shallow water for 1/10th of the cost of BFS

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад +1

      I am much more of a spinning reel guy myself. I agree that the spinning reel is a better system for most situations. Just thought this would be a good video to better explain what a BFS is truly good at.

    • @theastuteangler
      @theastuteangler Год назад

      based spincast enjoyer

  • @landothemando6901
    @landothemando6901 3 года назад +2

    I love my BFS setup. Shimano Alderbaron, on a Shimano Sensilite ultralight rod. I never go fishing without it.

  • @Girlwholoves2fish
    @Girlwholoves2fish 3 года назад +1

    #3 was exact reason I got it! W the zephyr the price was right!!! Can't wait for to you post vid using it.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      I am excited to get out and test it soon :D

  • @subsailor1445
    @subsailor1445 Год назад

    BFS started in Japan, and where a lot of anglers are really kinda limited to where they fish. Not a lot of lakes, large reservoirs, or farm ponds like the US has.
    It forced them to go smaller on basically everything.
    I bought a Dobyns rod and didn't realize that it was basically for the BFS setup, so I had to purchase a new reel for it. It may be great for smaller bodies of water and that will be great.
    Thanks for the info and fish on👍

  • @BFSJEDI
    @BFSJEDI 3 года назад +1

    Great video dude. I’ve been using bfs for a long time and you hit the nail on the head..... it’s all about the fun factor for me . Even on a shite days fishing I get joy out of accurately presenting a sub 3g lure exactly where I want it..... Now where’s my beer ?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Love it! Glad you agree on my main points. And as far as your beer goes... I am not sure, but I would check the fridge :D

    • @BFSJEDI
      @BFSJEDI 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything on it !

  • @InTheWoodsToday
    @InTheWoodsToday 3 года назад +11

    I just bought my first baitcaster this year, but it would be really fun in an ultralight version. Is that essentially what BFS is?

    • @Kieler.Flies.
      @Kieler.Flies. 3 года назад +9

      yeah, if you search up bfs fishing it talks about how in japan people couldn’t catch bass on larger lures due to over fished to they came up with a bait finesse system (bfs) and so you can cast lighter smaller finesse baits for bass but it is slowly becoming more popular in the us for trout and panfish as a new fun way to fish them and my opinion more effective for me. hope this helps:)

    • @wesleywillard
      @wesleywillard 3 года назад +5

      @@Kieler.Flies. ^ what he said. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +5

      Love that response Kie! Thank you for sharing.

    • @InTheWoodsToday
      @InTheWoodsToday 3 года назад +1

      Well I must say im very interested... is it possible to invest 75$ for a decent setup or would I need a larger budget?

    • @Kieler.Flies.
      @Kieler.Flies. 3 года назад

      @@InTheWoodsToday text one of us on instagram @onlineoutdoorsman or @kieler_krchmar

  • @firemandan5959
    @firemandan5959 3 года назад +1

    I have been watching your BFS videos and may try it this summer. You never know if you will like unless you try it.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Yeah for sure! BFS is one of those weird obscure techniques that probably isn't necessary but at the same time is effective and fun. I definitely recommend it to light line anglers who have experience with casting reels!

  • @wongshang1234
    @wongshang1234 2 года назад +3

    number 1 reason to get a bfs is cause its fun and much lighter. Although I must say, once I've used BFS, its kinda hard to go back to normal bait caster which is like 5 times heavier...

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад

      There are pros & cons about both! I like experimenting with all gear :)

  • @garyrothweiler5384
    @garyrothweiler5384 3 года назад +1

    You got a Zephyr!! So what do you think??? Very very cool!!! I love mine; you’ll have a blast! And THANKS for the shoutout :) You rock! Keep the BFS vids coming!!! You nailed it in the video as to why I chose BFS; I fish for fun; and to me this represents the most fun for me. Also you nailed it with the accuracy part too; several of my local lakes are littered with laydowns; so I do require so very close quarter accurate casts.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Heck yeah Gary! Can't wait to put it to use as we get a little warmer weather. Hoping to catch some trout on it as well as panfish and bass. Going to be a super fun setup :)

  • @Dave_Ehlers
    @Dave_Ehlers 3 года назад +1

    I just got that reel in your hand.(the Zypher) It just arrived today. I am going to put it on my 7' Shimano Sensilite rod I picked up last September. I can't wait for open water to catch big smallies on it.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      That will be a MONEY smallie setup with Ned Rigs and whatnot. Can't wait to hear how you do :)

  • @toddhansen8831
    @toddhansen8831 3 года назад +4

    Got my first bfs rig last spring just got the zephyr now I have 3 bfs setups I love bfs because it’s super fun and I prefer casting reels over spinning reels I think spinning has more line issues like line twist

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      That is awesome haha you have become a BFS wizard! Glad you enjoy it :)

  • @slimpickins9124
    @slimpickins9124 7 дней назад

    excellent to the point video.

  • @Uubtube123
    @Uubtube123 8 месяцев назад

    Right of the rip. The opening statement to the video I heard “in a lot of situations, the bfs reel isn’t necessarily better than a spinning reel, but there are a few”
    I already don’t want it. That’s telling me this is a niche product that no one actually really needs.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  8 месяцев назад

      It’s not a practical thing for most anglers. It is niche and works well for specific anglers but for most, it’s just another example of consumerism.

  • @johnhanes3450
    @johnhanes3450 3 года назад +1

    That reel is the bomb! One of if not my favorite. The matching rod is pure joy!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Heck yeah! I think it will be a fun setup. I have a 5' UL Tsurinoya Dragon to pair it with :)

    • @johnhanes3450
      @johnhanes3450 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything that’s on my wish list!

  • @tlashley
    @tlashley 3 года назад +1

    Did not know these existed. Gonna have to try one out! I mainly fish for river smallmouth here in NE Oklahoma. I do like my spinning gear but prefer the casting reel.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Definitely give it a shot if you get a chance! I think you would have a ton of fun for river smallies :)

  • @joespafford6499
    @joespafford6499 11 месяцев назад

    I'm so new to this, but I'm going to spin casting fisherman converting to regular casting. And I love finesse fishing

  • @MichaelRomero
    @MichaelRomero 3 года назад +3

    The Daiwa Alphas Air is a game changer when it comes to BFS reels.

    • @rawrfishing
      @rawrfishing 3 года назад +1

      Best UL bfs out of the box!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Man I definitely want one of them! One day I will splurge and pick one up. But for now, I have two plenty capable reels :)

  • @bassinbaskie
    @bassinbaskie 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve finally gotten into baitcaters this year and now I’m questioning whether I NEED a BFS next. This vid was helpful, but has your opinion shifted in two years?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  8 месяцев назад +1

      I still feel like spinning is the way to go for my style. BFS is fun but I don't consider it a need.

  • @katietrotter9374
    @katietrotter9374 12 дней назад +1

    Video starts at 2:15

  • @predator_boiz336
    @predator_boiz336 5 месяцев назад +1

    What’s the pink think on the end of the reel? I like that to be able to just keep them stored spulled up

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  4 месяца назад

      It’s just a little storage clip. I got it from a friend I honestly don’t know where to get them 🥲

  • @walden6272
    @walden6272 2 года назад +1

    I used to be a spinning reel guy until I bought my first quality casting reel (Daiwa Fuego CT). Now I love love casting reels. I ended up giving away most of my spinning tackle and bought a whole line of Daiwa Tatulas (100, 150, 200). They are so amazing. I kept 2 spinning setup for bait fishing for perches. Other than that, all my lure fishing is with baitcasters. I have yet to find a BFS setup that hasn't given me problems, like lines getting stuck between spool and frame and backlashing when I am trying to get some distance. I know the $200 plus BFS setup from Daiwa and Shimano would solve this problem but I can't justify spending that much for a reel I hardly use. I fish more for big fish in the salt and lake so I use heavier lures most of the time so I rather spend more on bigger tackle.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад

      Personal preference is a huge part of it! Nothing wrong with using what you like :)

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 2 года назад

      @@FishAnything Yup. Fishing is about having fun and gotta use what you enjoy using. :)

  • @kenappleby8481
    @kenappleby8481 3 года назад +1

    I just purchased the Zephyr a couple of days ago and will get it Friday. Stoked to try out BFS to see if I like it or not.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Stoked for you! Hope you have fun with it. Be patient - it is weird to start lol

  • @ramboj7924
    @ramboj7924 2 года назад +1

    a spinning rod gets the job done with light to heavy lures but a baitcaster in general is more comfortable, faster to prepare your next cast with a simple thumb button to release spool (no need for opening and closing bails with other hand) an is just a more fun way of fishing lures in many ways

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад

      Good points! Definitely room for both reel types. Personal preference ultimately makes the decision :)

  • @auronotcs5440
    @auronotcs5440 3 года назад +4

    I only used spinning reels for years. I bought a Calcutta conquest bfs, im I'm not sure I've thrown another set up since I bought it lol.

    • @joshuarogers4428
      @joshuarogers4428 3 года назад +1

      That’s my dream bfs reel. I bought a nice used Aldebaran bfs and swapped out the gears for the Calcutta conquest bfs ones. Makes it noticeably heavier but also noticeably smoother!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +2

      OOOOOOF those look epic! If only I had $500 to spend lol

    • @auronotcs5440
      @auronotcs5440 3 года назад +2

      I decided I'd quit buying what are essentially throw away reels and get one that would last more or less indefinitely. I'd recommend the Calcutta over basically anything unless you are planning on throwing stuff under 2 grams or so.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      OOOOH I definitely want it. Maybe someday. I agree it is better to have a smaller arsenal that is higher performance.

  • @captainrylenaviation29
    @captainrylenaviation29 3 года назад +1

    Im a ultralight spinning reel guy.. I use a jdm xtra ultralight Abugarcia real finesse Eradicator rod pair with abu garcia theta 1000 and spool it up with polyester 2.1 lbs line... With plastic line its hard to do it on bfs... Try polyester jdm line .. If you get use to it, you wont use any other lines...Also birds nest on bfs..That will take if not ruin your day if you get 1..

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      The more I use BFS, the more I actually prefer spinning to be honest. To each his own - I will always have a lot more spinning setups than BFS. But I still do enjoy BFS fishing!

  • @B.A.Bassangler
    @B.A.Bassangler Год назад +1

    Been a BFS bench-sitter for a while now, but got a new Lew's Skip/Pitch reel with the shallow spool...To quote Gomer Pyle, "SHAZAAM, SHAZAAM"! ...I need more BFS gear, Power BFS gear, etc. You get the picture, more BFS vids to guide me through this journey. Just save your KK link to my Amazon List.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад +1

      Haha heck yeah man! I definitely think it is a cool option for a lot of anglers. As a big ultralight angler, I tend to prefer spinning still, but finesse bass fishing applications are definitely appealing for BFS.

  • @brodyboylan3244
    @brodyboylan3244 Год назад +2

    What rod do you use with your bfs

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад

      At this point, the only rod I have been using is the Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse. Great bass setup for micro baits.

  • @joelsweeney9049
    @joelsweeney9049 2 года назад +1

    How do they cast in a face full of strong wind? Do the backlash?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад +1

      They can be pretty dang finicky (especially on the ultralight stuff). Not bad when you get up above 1/16oz though.

  • @ponycarguy
    @ponycarguy 3 года назад +1

    Great video 👍. I'm a big fan of bfs. Number one reason for me is just fun. I'm not sure why I have so much more fun with a casting reel but I do haha. I have noticed increase in accuracy and that the casts seem more smooth/fluid. It certainly is efficient too. You can usually get the bfs reels in faster gear ratios as well. It can be quite a challenge at times too. If your curious about it don't be afraid to give it a try 👍.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Well said Mark! I definitely wouldn't have gotten into BFS without your help haha so thank you!

    • @ponycarguy
      @ponycarguy 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything happy to spread the "poison" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @clarencehandy1189
    @clarencehandy1189 Год назад

    do you catch a bunch of keepers with the BFS? What I'm seeing everywhere doesn't look like it

  • @rmcBloody
    @rmcBloody 3 года назад

    Man the zephyr is so light and easy to use, really like what Kastking made with it.

  • @darthjar9117
    @darthjar9117 Год назад +1

    Call me dumb for asking but Do these reels require a special BFS rod?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад

      Not technically, but you will maximize their performance with a lighter rod for sure. Many companies are starting to offer BFS models.

  • @quanloikid1
    @quanloikid1 2 года назад

    I am waiting for my 1st BFS rod and reel to arrive. The prices for a great reel and rod seem are very low. I also like the casting under brush and trees.

  • @user-lw8un4ic9f
    @user-lw8un4ic9f Год назад +1

    Hi Bro, can we meet together at ICAST in Orlando, FL from July 11th to 14th? We would like to have a further discussion with you.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад

      Send me an email - I won’t be in attendance of ICAST. MuleFishingSupplies@gmail

  • @piyachetty3023
    @piyachetty3023 3 года назад +1

    Awesome man 👍👍

  • @jonathancaldwell-km5ig
    @jonathancaldwell-km5ig Год назад

    In my opinion the only advantage of a bfs reel is no wind knots. Everything else can be fixed with practice. No wind knots but you can now backlash, easy to skip with a spinning reel, it all evens out.

  • @robertwilliamson6958
    @robertwilliamson6958 3 года назад

    I feel like no one is mentioning exactly why I have gotten into bfs. I mean efficiency does explain it in a vague and general manner I guess. I like the fact I get my finger back on the line far quicker/more immediately after the lure hits the water and I find I detect those right as it hits the water strikes much sooner and catch a few more of the fish that bite at that time. I also don’t have to take my finger off the line to reel/thus my finger is on the line more during reeling in slack and i feel more bites/thus hopefully detecting and catching more of this super dooper lightly biting fish that are nearly impossible to feel sometimes. Thus catching a few more fish. Particularly with light ned rigs.

  • @swamp_rat_fla1126
    @swamp_rat_fla1126 Год назад +1

    Line twist, wind knots, and closing and opening the bail gets old. I can fish much faster with BFS and it just feels better in hand. Still use my spinning reels all the time. Love both!! ❤❤

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад

      Nothing wrong with either option - just need to use what works best for your style and application. If I was doing a lot of creek fishing with 1/16oz - 1/8oz lures, I would likely use a BFS all the time.

  • @adjutant
    @adjutant 2 года назад

    Japanese and European 0g ultralight rods are exclusively spinning. I'm out here using 0.5g lures, otherwise I would like to try BFS. It's not even about saving time, just the ergonomics of not having to hold the line with your finger to cast, such a small thing, but huge annoyance.

  • @djmoore7844
    @djmoore7844 3 года назад +1

    As someone who has never used a baitcaster, but loves to fish for gills and crappie, is this something you would recommend? I primarily fish on lakes and small ponds

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Honestly I wouldn’t recommend it for that scenario. I think spinning is just fine!

  • @YourNextCast
    @YourNextCast 3 года назад +1

    You are so right in highlighting the differences. I tend to lean to bfs more now after seeing so many of your vids. Before I was mainly spinning.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      That is awesome! BFS is super fun - glad you like it as well!

  • @TylerGoesFishing
    @TylerGoesFishing 3 года назад +1

    ill have to try it one day

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      It is definitely a fun way to fish light line! You should give it a shot if you get a chance :)

  • @CyprinusCarpioDiem
    @CyprinusCarpioDiem 2 года назад +1

    Bfs is to present lighter lures to the SAME fish you wouldn't have room to maneuver a full size rod and reel to reach

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад +1

      True! But one could argue that a short spinning outfit could do the same thing. To me, the value of BFS is the accuracy it can achieve over a spinning reel by slowing down your spool.

    • @CyprinusCarpioDiem
      @CyprinusCarpioDiem 2 года назад +1

      @@FishAnything agreed, I think it's more about efficiency in casting in small spaces or presenting more versatile baits to large fish. But we all know....it's just fun to fish lol

  • @5.7.0bassin2
    @5.7.0bassin2 3 года назад +2

    Whats some brands of bfs i should look for

    • @Treeezzz
      @Treeezzz 3 года назад +1

      I got the kastking zephyr a couple months ago. It's a fun reel for about $70. They get way more expensive. I'm not expert with bfs but I really like the one i got. Rawr fishing has a bunch of videos on bfs tackle.

    • @garyrothweiler5384
      @garyrothweiler5384 3 года назад +1

      I use KastKing BFS Reels; they have the Zephyr; the Valiant Eagle BFS and also the MegaJaws BFS. Kinda like a good; better; best scenario.

    • @micahspilker9322
      @micahspilker9322 3 года назад +2

      Shimano, Daiwa and shimano 😉

    • @ponycarguy
      @ponycarguy 3 года назад +2

      Much depends on your budget. Low price favorites of mine are the kastking zephyr, fishband gh100, and the tsurinoya spirit fox. The name brands cost more but they are better built and usually perform better too. The abu garcia alc-bf7 is nice, the daiwa alphas air (not the 2020) is good, and the shimano scorpion bfs (shimano also recently announced a new slx bfs reel). Above that the sky is the limit. Shimano aldebaran bfs and conquest bfs, new 2020 daiwa alphas air, even modified vintage ambassadeur 2500 and 1500 reels are very capable reels.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +2

      THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING!

  • @HustleHabit
    @HustleHabit Год назад +1

    How do you like that Convergence rod on your spin setup? I'm looking at picking a travel version up for finesse bass fishing

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад +1

      I used to have a convergence. It was a decent rod for the price!

    • @HustleHabit
      @HustleHabit Год назад

      @@FishAnything I have a Megabass Orochi XXX on the way, but I want the Convergence to throw on my back or on a plane when the mood strikes

  • @quinnopiola2186
    @quinnopiola2186 3 года назад +2

    can you do a video on bait and tackle storage

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +2

      I will definitely try to keep this in mind! I can show how I do it in a future video.

    • @quinnopiola2186
      @quinnopiola2186 3 года назад +1

      @@FishAnything sweeeeet

  • @rawrfishing
    @rawrfishing 3 года назад +3

    efficiency isn't just about maximizing time, but to conserve energy. Blue lining adventures deep into the mountain and find that body of water that you want to fish is already tiring. Weight of reels can also help and BC reels are normally lighter than spinning reels and especially at the cheaper reels. To get a light spinning reel, you must have an expensive reel and a small reel. I hate size 500 reels as they have too much line twists. so i opt for size 1k and a shallow spool. but any how, good job!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Jimmy! Keep spreading the BFS love - I definitely appreciate your feedback & expertise.

  • @deanmuse2590
    @deanmuse2590 Год назад +1

    Backlash will always be a problem with bfs just because the wide variables in casting situations. For me anyway. If I were out in the open or on a boat probably not an issue. I still love it though. It's the only setup I've been using lately and having a blast. I just wouldn't say that I'm more efficient with it. At least not yet.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад +1

      Definitely! Especially for the folks trying to cast super ultralight lures on BFS. BFS is great for the mid-range light tackle but not necessarily for 1/64oz jigs.

    • @TheCattledog2
      @TheCattledog2 Год назад

      I have a kastking
      & only backlash once when I hit the bottom of a bridge
      User error

  • @dextersgarden404
    @dextersgarden404 3 месяца назад +1

    This is the first I'm hearing of "BFS".
    Yes, I live under a rock. So essentially it's just an ultralight baitcaster? Hmm...

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 месяца назад +1

      Pretty much! They are relatively new to the market but gaining popularity fast.

    • @dextersgarden404
      @dextersgarden404 3 месяца назад

      @@FishAnything I'm not against it. I like baitcasters, although the description you give of them seems an awful lot like my OOOLLLDD crappie baitcasters

  • @sunnyyang7880
    @sunnyyang7880 3 года назад +1

    Bfs biggest advantage is using spinner and spoons. No more worrying about line twist

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      I can definitely see how this is a big advantage too!

  • @M.Redsky
    @M.Redsky 3 года назад +1

    I have acquired a 8' Light action casting, kokanee rod, rated to throw 1/8 - 3/4oz and line recommendation of 2-8 lbs. Should I put a BFS reel on this unit? Or, is it not rated 'light enough'?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      That is interesting - I have never used anything quite like that! I don't think you really need a BFS reel for that but I definitely would suggest a smaller reel with light components. I wonder if that is intended for drift fishing for salmon/steelhead?

  • @MSLAC03
    @MSLAC03 3 года назад +1

    Nice info bro!🔥Can a bfs reel cast further bro??

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      I think a spinning can typically cast further (but with less accuracy). Thanks for watching!

  • @davidogden8504
    @davidogden8504 Год назад +1

    I feel that there is less slack in the line with a baitcaster then a spinning reel when you go to set the hook. Maybe that is because of the higher gear ratio on your average baitcaster you are able to pick up any slack faster. I feel more directly connected to the lure with a baitcaster. That being said I use a spinning reel most the time for bottom fishing lures. Texas, ned, drop shot. Then using a baitcaster for a jig or punching rig for flipping. I have just purchased a bfs setup cause why not fishing light tackle is fun. I can't wait to get a nice fish on some 6lb line lol. The tactical bassin guys are the ones that turned me onto it.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад

      Confidence and what feels right for you is obviously a huge part of it! Great points, David.

  • @shaukiza
    @shaukiza 2 года назад

    Those who do mainly saltwater, bfs just isn't for you, we do ultralight, micro jigging from shore, ajing, and cast further is the only way we could reach the target, not to mention bfs needs way too much to care on saltwater environment, I guess there's a pros and cons in both so why not buy both right to suite our needs, cheers

  • @KitebuildingGenius
    @KitebuildingGenius 3 года назад +1

    You can feather and slow your line down with a spinner as well. I'm pretty satisfied with my accuracy with my spinners and (personally) don't identify with that perceived "deficiency"

    • @KitebuildingGenius
      @KitebuildingGenius 3 года назад +1

      Lightly use your cranking hand to cup the spool and let the line gently run across the pad of your hand at the base of your fingers, increasing pressure (or vice versa) as required. Takes some practice but it works

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Yeah I do this too. I agree that enough time with a spinning reel can give you solid accuracy as well. I don't think either is a bad option! I just like fishing numerous ways haha

    • @aleckrug1554
      @aleckrug1554 3 года назад

      Spoken like a true spinner lol

  • @leepao6302
    @leepao6302 2 года назад

    I’m being fishing with BFS gears roughly about 4yrs now I love it a lot. But I don’t understand why some people will bad mouth to me about how dumb it is and how it’s a wasting of money and time on BFS. To me it’s just another form of fishing style like fly fishing. For example you can use a spinning setup to do trout fishing or fishing in general yet some people prefer fly fishing setup instead. But I don’t see nobody bad mouth about fly fishing, but as soon as someone mentioned bfs, you’ll be call crazy and waste of time and money.
    It sad that bfs is some form of taboo in terms of fishing that kinda weird right? I’m just saying, But these days bfs become more and more popular and it’s good to see the genre grow and embrace.

  • @waltermitchell8848
    @waltermitchell8848 3 года назад +1

    I just got my first bfs straight from China.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Nice! Hope you have fun with it :)

  • @3thingsfishing427
    @3thingsfishing427 3 года назад +1

    Main advantage is you can stop an overcast imo
    But, bfs spools require inertia, spinning reel spools don't. Just physics.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Yeah definitely agree with this comment. Bfs gives us control and accuracy.

    • @R.C.Bullar
      @R.C.Bullar 3 года назад

      You can stop an overcast on a spinning

  • @kosby5963
    @kosby5963 3 года назад +1

    Hello from Russia, why you select mono and not a braid to bfs?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      You can use braid but I use mono in a lot of cases because of the lightweight spool. Braid can technically dig into the spool and damage it. Doesn't seem to be a major issue but something to consider

    • @kosby5963
      @kosby5963 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything thanks, i will take a mono to test.

  • @TheTanglingTreats
    @TheTanglingTreats 2 года назад +2

    I'm starting out as an angler and recently dipped my hands into budget BFS equipment namely with the KastKing Zephyr and the Tsurinoya Dragon rod, loved throwing a ned rig on it.
    Seeing how it's going to be another year since this video was posted, have your thoughts on the advantages changed?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад

      No major changes in thoughts. I think BFS is a niche in the market which helps certain anglers but I don't think it is necessary for everyone. Fun way to fish regardless!

  • @jasonpendleton3822
    @jasonpendleton3822 3 года назад +1

    What is a good rod for using BFS? Size, action, length, brand?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Definitely depends on budget and if you’re comfortable buying them from overseas! If you want something domestic and cheap, a Shakespeare microlite ultralight spincasting rod will work! For a higher price, Majorcraft and other JDM rod companies have lots of great options.

    • @jasonpendleton3822
      @jasonpendleton3822 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything thank you. Also, a couple years ago I met your buddy from college. His name is Brett and lives in Lee's Summit Mo. He said you guys fished together at K State. He's a cool dude. Keep up the great work and videos!

  • @deaks4570
    @deaks4570 3 года назад +2

    got the zephyr. swapped out the bearings and loaded with 9lb 8 strand microfly braid. Seems like a great set up at the moment. I mainly changed to bfs to try something different but I have to say I thoroughly enjoy it and it has become my light lure 'go to' for fun

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      That sounds like a fun setup! I am excited to use mine with 4# monofilament for lots of multispecies fishing :)

    • @deaks4570
      @deaks4570 3 года назад

      Sounds good. Looking forward to watching it in action 🐟

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer 2 года назад

    Number one reason is to be able to throw very small lures and baits, where most of the time the smaller fish seem hungrier, they put up a good fight as well, the big fish are a little wiser and a bit finicky, BFS increases the chance that you will catch something besides a cold... 😎

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  2 года назад +1

      I tend to think that is the case for any ultralight presentation (spinning or BFS). The BFS, with experience, simply helps with accuracy in tight areas.

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 2 года назад

      @@FishAnything working on accuracy for me is tough, that zephyr reel lives to backlash on those tiny baits, I think its time to try some of your gear 😎

  • @jos3mejia
    @jos3mejia 3 года назад +1

    What lines and rods are recommended for bfs? I'm just now hearing about it and it seems reminiscent to lrf style of fishing and I am very interested in getting into it. I do get flack from my brothers for wanting to go the "too light to cast route" but I just ignore it and have fun catching plenty when they strugel for a bite.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Haha love it! The rods are a very important part of the system. Generally speaking, you want something either UL or L in power. Any lengths from 4'6 all the way to 7'6. And I would suggest 4-6lb mono or light braid with a leader. Don't overspool the reel or you will have headaches.

    • @scottbrach2888
      @scottbrach2888 3 года назад

      Can you give us some examples of UL or L casting rods? They're virtually impossible to find...

  • @fiacroramirez8961
    @fiacroramirez8961 3 года назад +1

    you must do a video on texas rig donkey and trd

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      100% I will be trying some micro Texas rigs this year

  • @crankbaiter_fishing
    @crankbaiter_fishing 3 года назад +1

    I am an UL spinning guy, never used a baitcaster ever before in my life. Will it be possible for me to switch directly to BFS or I will have to learn to use Baitcaster with some heavy rod, Line and lures?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      I think it COULD be done, however I definitely think you will enjoy BFS more if you are already familiar with heavier baitcasters too.

    • @makeorwellfictionagain3553
      @makeorwellfictionagain3553 2 года назад

      I switched from fixed spool straight to bfs. 100% doable and I haven’t looked back since. Take a look at a few videos of how to set up a baitcaster/bfs reel and you should be on the right track.

  • @WestMichiganJigCo
    @WestMichiganJigCo 3 года назад +1

    My big thing is gonna be line management

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Yeah spinning can definitely have some twist issues so that is a great point.

  • @5.7.0bassin2
    @5.7.0bassin2 3 года назад +1

    Im hoping before spring qnd they stock trout here in pa i get a bfs

    • @ldsudduthhanover
      @ldsudduthhanover 3 года назад +1

      Stocking started February 15.. Trout fishing in approved trout streams is closed until Mentored Youth Day (only one this year), March 27th.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      BFS is definitely a great option for us trout anglers! Good luck :)

  • @billcoerver4583
    @billcoerver4583 3 года назад +1

    Nice video 👊 ....

  • @leftmono1016
    @leftmono1016 3 года назад +3

    The main advantage seems to me to be extra sales for tackle suppliers!
    Other than that maybe just the challenge of learning a different skill.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Yeah it is definitely a really "niche" type of fishing. Wouldn't say it is necessary for most anglers. Trout fishing in tight quarters, there is an advantage.

  • @Kieler.Flies.
    @Kieler.Flies. 3 года назад +1

    love it!

  • @walden6272
    @walden6272 3 года назад +1

    What rod power (lure weight rating) would go with BFS reel?

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      I would say the high end needs to be around 5/16oz or MAYBE 3/8oz. Depends on how you will use it though. You can go lower than that if you want UL usage.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything the lowest rod rating I have goes from 1/4 oz to 3/4 oz, would that work for BFS reel?

    • @tommatkevich855
      @tommatkevich855 3 года назад

      Maybe a curado bfs, but it would be more finesse fishing than bfs

  • @yep.fishing
    @yep.fishing Год назад +1

    I thought BFS was just.for American bass anglers who wanted to try ultralight fishing

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад +1

      Lol honestly BFS is getting all sorts of hype but it is a pretty niche thing. I think it will help a few occasions but I don't personally need it for a lot of my stuff. Just a preference thing :)

    • @yep.fishing
      @yep.fishing Год назад

      @@FishAnything to me it would just be making the hobby even more needlessly expensive and addictive

  • @Josh_Chaussinand
    @Josh_Chaussinand 3 года назад +1

    Looking to invest in a Ned rig rod. Do you recommend a light power or medium light?
    Also, do you have a contact for us to ask fishing questions?

    • @garyrothweiler5384
      @garyrothweiler5384 3 года назад +1

      I bought all ML rods for my BFS reels; I will mostly fish Neds and Micro Finesse Jigs with them.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +2

      If you are going BFS, I think either honestly works fine. I had the Shimano Sensilite 7' Light Casting Rod and it was a fantastic BFS Ned Rig Rod. I swapped it out for the new Dobyns Sierra 7' L and that will also be perfect. But ML is usually what I recommend for Neds in spinning so that should work fine on BFS too. The one thing to keep in mind is whether it will load up on a cast if you go lighter than a typical Ned. I like the L because it is more versatile for lighter gear too.

    • @Josh_Chaussinand
      @Josh_Chaussinand 3 года назад +1

      @@FishAnything thanks for the reply! Love the videos.
      I’m going to be using spinning gear.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      Yeah I would go with a 6'10 ML fast action. Can't go wrong.

    • @Steve_Balboni
      @Steve_Balboni 2 года назад

      @@FishAnything Do you still have your 7' Shimano Sensilte? How is it with a BFS reel and 1/16 - 1/8 lures?

  • @alex111683
    @alex111683 2 года назад

    There honestly really isn't. For me it's just fun!! When you're going that thin of line diameter and extremely light weight lures, an equivalent spinning set up will always outcast and easily be more manageable in terms of user error and finesse spinning gear is cheaper. BUT when streams are small enough and a long cast isn't required. BFS is so freaking fun! I have 3 BFS reels and always look to use them before my spinning gear.

  • @russhood6747
    @russhood6747 Год назад +1

    I think you also enjoy the reel capacity. Use less fishing line save $$$

  • @nagyn.5027
    @nagyn.5027 Год назад +1

    Efficiency? Forgot about birdsnest?...

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  Год назад

      100% good point. BFS is not more efficient if you are not great at casting with it. I prefer spinning, but BFS is great for certain applications.

  • @punchfukker3383
    @punchfukker3383 3 года назад +1

    ~talks about time efficiency~
    *laughs in shimano quickfire 2*
    lol but fereal yo, don't get me wrong, I _want_ an slx mgl, but there's more than one major advantage spinning reels have over bfs reels, and that whole notion of bfs gives some kind of +4 attack bonus to your lure-logistics, I'd say it's just pretty much entirely personal skill development cause I'm sure I can cast just about as gently and quickly no problem with a spinning reel as well.
    if anything, I'd say it's spinning reels that have an advantage in lure-logistics if there is one over the other, close your eyes and imagine this: you and I on a cove/cut bank see fish schooling & busting but they're way way on the other side, at the snap of a uhhhh a fas-snap, I go from 1/24 to 1/4 and have all the line to launch a spoon at em with all the energy I'd need to get in on the action!... but you have to waste minutes walking around to even get in range, _womp womp._
    *AND WHO THE HELL IS LOSING 12 SPINNERS A DAY!!!?!??!!¡! THROW THEM IN!!!*

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Lol! Love it Frank. Honestly you make very valid points. BFS is really unnecessary for most anglers BUT there are certain areas where it really pays off. The tight quarters trout streams and panfish creeks is where I really feel it adds the most value. But again, spinning is definitely more versatile! Ultimately, I probably won't BFS fish forever but I will fish with spinning forever.

    • @punchfukker3383
      @punchfukker3383 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything I want the slx mgl exactly because of that, seems like it'd be a good do-it-all casting reel if you filled it with 6-10# superbraid for here, especially if I need to go pond-hoppin' for content.

  • @timothythompson6549
    @timothythompson6549 3 года назад +1

    I've been intrigued by bfs ever since I first heard of it. I'm somewhat afraid of getting spooled if I hook a big fish with the limited line capacity. But I think I'd really enjoy it.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      I think, based on your fishing style, you would enjoy it as well! I don't think you will have issues getting spooled but I totally understand the concern if you do happen to find a big fish.

  • @lukecole_28
    @lukecole_28 3 года назад +3

    Lose twelve spinners? No I'm going in to get my gear at all times its possible and reasonable lol I actually do cause I don't like spending lots of money

    • @Kieler.Flies.
      @Kieler.Flies. 3 года назад +3

      and it helps the environment :)

    • @lukecole_28
      @lukecole_28 3 года назад +1

      @@Kieler.Flies. that too!

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад +1

      If I ever actually lose 12 spinners, I will definitely cry myself to sleep XD

    • @Kieler.Flies.
      @Kieler.Flies. 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything me too 😂 I lost one before and I went home depressed about it 😂

    • @lukecole_28
      @lukecole_28 3 года назад

      @@FishAnything same here

  • @victorsimonsen921
    @victorsimonsen921 3 года назад +1

    what about the time you waste with backlashes everyone get them be honest?

    • @sunnyyang7880
      @sunnyyang7880 3 года назад +2

      Line twist is worse for me on a spinning reel. I can get out most bad backlash but one bad line twist and I have to cut.

    • @ponycarguy
      @ponycarguy 3 года назад +1

      I do get them for sure. But generally a few pulls of the line or a step back will get it out. Rarely get the bad bad ones anymore but it does occasionally happen. But I get similar issues with spinning reels too due to the line twist and loops jumping off the spool. Its not quite as bad with braided line but it still happens occasionally.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Victor this is 100% valid! You definitely waste time with backlashes however I should clarify...
      --- More efficient for anglers with lots of baitcasting experience and limited backlashes
      --- Less efficient for amateur baitcasters
      Long term, with practice, you gain efficiency and will backlash very little.

  • @lets_fish_already_9345
    @lets_fish_already_9345 3 года назад

    It's basically just like using a spin casting reel that can backlash.

    • @ponycarguy
      @ponycarguy 3 года назад +1

      Spincast reels are more similar to spinning reels by how the line comes off the spool. Kinda a push button spinning reel.

    • @FishAnything
      @FishAnything  3 года назад

      Definitely a weird technique. And the backlashes can be brutal lol. But all in all, I think it has a role for certain anglers!

  • @jayrough3383
    @jayrough3383 3 года назад +1

    If you have a hour to fish and you backlash bad well you just put down your bfs and pick the old trust spinning reel lol