DW Savage Bobber Build Part One
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- I like building pretty models and this Savage Bobber by Dancing Wings is a pretty model. It's in pre-production and is going together reasonably well. It's going to be really interesting to see this one on the runway when I open that throttle! Hit the like button and check out Part Two: bit.ly/3GZ9dCf. Chapter Jumps below.
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0:00 Introduction
1:00 What's in the Box
3:00 Start with the Fuselage Sides
7:00 Fuselage Former Fitting
8:38 Motor Mount Fitting
11:15 Wing Centre Section
13:50 Rear Carbon Fuselage Cage
20:32 Fitting the Rear Formers
28:29 Undercarriage Mount Construction
29:33 Front Curved Balsa Deck
31:16 Fitting the Undercarriage Plate
33:00 Summing Up so far - Наука
Wow! Glad I watched your video, I didn't realize it was a kit! Almost pulled the trigger... Would be nice FPV with a pan servo in the cockpit!
They do assembled versions as well Phil, just be sure to add a little more right thrust to avoid the problems others have had 👍🙂
Looks like another nice flyer there, Cliff.
Fingers crossed David 👍
Brilliant, a bit of weight lifting as well! Nice one Cliff!
Gone are the days Pete 😁👍
An interesting kit Cliff. I have built a few Dancing Wings kits and found them to be good 👍
This is only my second Mike and it's going together fast, I've got another big one to build in the New Year 😁👍
I love watching you work Cliff. Thanks for showing all the gory details.
Thanks Tim, if I make the mistake then others can learn 👍
I'm very curious to see what happens next! Greetings from Munich!
HI Sabrina, the tail and wings are next, thanks 🙂👍
Who would have thought 30 years ago that companies would be cutting kits with that degree of accuracy
Well Done Cliff
Great clip as always
I know, us old timers are spoilt today 😁👍
Hi Cliff, Great vid mate. Very informative as usual. Keep em comming. Cheers!
Thanks Phillip, I know it's on the long side but if you're building one it's worth covering all the points 🙂
What a great project! Looking forward to seeing this progress! Great stuff Cliff 👍
Thanks Jerry, using carbon in this way is a learning curve for me but it's going ok. I've used carbon for reinforcing balsa and foam of course but for pure construction this is a first. Thanks for commenting 🙂
Brilliant Cliff, enjoyed every minuet, some great tips along the way. I still have not started my balsa build but I am looking forward to it. Looking forward to see part two. 👍🏻
Thanks Chris, part two is in the can, just got to do the editing, cheers.
Nice build, looking forward to seeing the progress with this one.
Thanks Bob, it's been fun 😀
That's a decent size model, enjoying the build.
Thanks Dan, it's only a metre actually, easy to transport 👍🙂
Always a joy to see you build. Now I want one too!
She is attractive Gudjon, she should be called the Cute Bopper 😁
Longer the better Cliff. Well done. It is fasinating. If it's worth doing it's worth doing right. You are an insperation mate!
Thanks Wiggy, next one will be three hours then 😁😁
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I Can't wait! Great! xx
Cliff good looking build, there a few crash, roll over left and down, videos and I found one that flew great but he had the CG forward of the recommended and used a 2s 1300 battery. Seems most of the failures are using larger batteries. The open fuselage should create more drag. Good luck Cliff, Jeff in LA USA
Yes, I've watched the other videos, mine has a decent amount offset on the motor. I'll be going 2s on this model, roll on the maiden 👍
Very interesting video Cliff, always loved the Savage Bobber. Looks to be a satisfying if somewhat fiddly build at times and I look forward to watching your progress. Lets hope you have more success than others when it comes to flying.
Thanks Artesanair, it's probably my fat fingers making it look fiddly, I've built much smaller models that really are fiddly. As for flying only time will tell 👍
Thanks Cliff that was extremely interesting and informative to watch seeing you plan it out carefully and methodically and I might add very skillfully, part two will be a must see!!!! Thanks for sharing and best regards from Alan in Sheffield 👍👍🤗🤗👏👏
Hi Alan, thanks, part two is on the way, if I'm editing I'm not building, that slows me down 👍
Just love you work
Thanks Yogenh 🙂👍
Like the looks of this plane too
A very unusual form of construction. It's coming together nice though.
Thanks Terry, it's an interesting mix of traditional and present day, I'm enjoying it though 👍
Considering the terrible results people have had with the arf, it will be interesting to see if you have more luck with the kit
It sure will Thomas, hopefully I can put all the bad luck the arf has suffered to bed 🤔👍
I saw this on Banggood Cliff. Looks a great model. Love the view outside your window. You have parked the Spit so close to your workshop (LOL)
I like to park the bird close just to keep an eye on her 👍🙂
Oh ‘Roger, over & out’ beware of the Hun in the sun & not get messerschmitt twitch!
Great to see you work and overcome the challenges that come up. Working with carbon seems complicated. I think I liked the Cute Girl better. Let's see how this one flies!
Thank you! Cheers!
Looking forward to seeing you get this one in the air Cliff. Banggood sells an ARF version of this and most on RUclips haven't been able to get one to fly well. I know yours will be straight, set up well, and you know how to use rudder...lol. Most I see trying to fly this apparently are not familiar with P factor, hammer the throttle instantly, and cartwheel it left...imagine that. I'm confident you will be successful. Looking forward to the rest of the build and your flight!
Thanks Adam, taildraggers are different you're right there, thanks for commenting 👍
THANKS..............!
You're welcome 👍
I will be interested to see if yours actually flies. None of the others I’ve seen on YT can even get off the ground! Also love the intro music Cliff 😀💪🏻
It'll be a maiden worth waiting for T Dog 😬👍
hey cliff, I did exactly the same thing with covering over the slot on the underside of the wing root, wish I'd watched your video first! still, it's reassuring a builder of your caliber could be caught out by the same thing (and having seen it fly gives me hope that mine might...). how's she flying nowadays?
Hi Philip, no one's perfect lol, to be honest I haven't flown her much, I've just been so busy building and having fun testing the Da Vinci Flyers 😁👍
When I saw the ARF version of this model I thought it was almost completely carbon fibre. I imagined it had connectors similar to plumbing hardware, holding the carbon rods at the desired angles. A model plane not made of foam or wood! Was this a new era in RC aviation?
Now I see there’s a lot of ply & balsa involved. Lets hope that you can make this better than the ARF version, because I’ve yet to see any of the Savage Bobber models fly properly.
Carbon has been used for probably years Koala but in mat and epoxy, but the rods and tubes are ideal for this sort of construction. I expect you've watched Pilot Robert getting his bobber up successfully now?
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes No, I’ve seen three attempts by the Penrick Brothers, with only one successful flight. Still more modification and repair needed. Your kit could be built, before they completely fix the ARF model.
Coming along nice Cliff, the Slovenian Brothers have had trouble getting it to take off, I'm wondering if the Right and down thrust for the motor is correct, it's a very pretty looking model and the kit looks very comprehensive 😄👍
Yes, I saw Robert having trouble, the kit has a fair degree of right and downthrust so it'll be interesting... no pressure 😁😁👍
Nice work, thanks for sharing! I was wondering how it was constructed.
One minor thing, in such small model wood glue is only weight. I came long way to learn that.
10 years ago I was using only wood glue as my father taught me. Then I switched to your techique. Two years ago I tried using CA only for gluing model which I based of Calmato with SuperTigre G-90 and 1.6m wingspan. Glue joints held up fine even after I crashed it. Now it's repaired and still flying.
So since then I use just CA for any model that has less than 2m wingspan, weights less than 7kg or has smaller than 20cc engine and I have had no problems so far.
Thanks RadMa, I agree wood glue is heavier but sometimes I prefer it for areas that may take more stress, it also gives more time to get a joint in place. It's like to use both. The model will take a little more weight as I'll only be flying 2s 👍
Ohh let´s see how it fly, did u saw the Prtrincic brother´s video about it? i have some other folks who had the same "strange turn" issue. A subject that i talk in one of my videos... I hope yours fly nice!
Thanks Aeroergo, yes I saw Robert and Blaz's triumph, goes to show persistence pays off 👍
Hey Cliff what should the angle of incidence be at the wing chord for a good flyer do you think this plane incidence is off?
This kit is set at zero incidence Rafael, so it'll be interesting to see how she sits in the air 🤔
Hi Sir, I have watched your video. I really want a plan to cut and make this model of machine. It would be great. Thank you for the good clip. 😊🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍
I don't think a plan is available only a kit but a quick search turned up this nice three-view you could base a model on, cheers 👍 www.carlao.top/products.aspx?cname=savage+bobber+rc+plane+plans&cid=26
Thank you very much@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes
Do you can share the drawing this plane?
Hi Pong, the dimensions are probably online somewhere, it's a common plane 👍
I have been looking at videos of people trying to fly this model. It seems to tip-stall like it was paid to do that. Neither the balancing or the alignment of the motor seem to be at fault, so I would look very hard at the washout of the wing. Be extra careful to have a degree or two of wanshout and not wash-in, which would make the tip stall, even at considerable speeds.
Just thought I'd say.
Thanks for that thought Gudjon but it would be hard to build in washout as the parts lock together. If needed I could set the ailerons up a couple of degrees. It might be a case of find a field with long grass 😁👍
Watched others with this same plane and it seems to love ground loops. But not Take off`s.
So if i may ask that you try very slowly on take off If this fails then take those stupid wheels off and use some normal wheels, they do look good but if you can not do take off for ground loops then there is no point in them being on.
Watching with interest.
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😁Thanks Stephen, if all else fails you know what I'm going to suggest lol
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes Oh no 😱
Hi. Cliff, love your build videos, and I am enjoing this one, I ordered the kit before I saw the vids of the non flying ones, so I am relying on you to help me get mine in the air. Eddie.L.
@Eddie Lancaster Hi Eddie, we'll get them up don't you worry, part two will be uploaded in the next 24 hours. Cheers. 👍
Is this a "STOL" designed airplane, Cliff?
I guess it could be David, the full size are 👍🙂
I think you have already worked out why the videos of these not flying properly are happening, you mention the wing support rods that set the incedence angles,I'm fairly certain the arf ones have something wrong there or at the tailplane mounting, my thoughts are that it is set up with far too much positive on the wing or too much negative on the tail but the violent snap roll they are all doing even when they are sure the cg is perfect or slightly forward tell me it's got too much, your build looks great, I'm in till the end with you on this as I'm also positive that set up properly it would be a huge amount of fun to fly
Thanks Alexis, the incidence on this kit is zero zero. I'm tempted to make the tailplane adjustable, but I'll give her a whirl as it's drawn 🙂🤔
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes that's really interesting, I wonder if the arf are built accurately to that ? Time will tell keep up the great work
@@alexisscott9573 The thing is Alexis they both sit on top of the same longeron, so I don't see how they can't be!
I really want to see this thing work as it should, the videos of it flying badly make no sense to me, unless they have ended up way past a reasonable flying weight which they don't appear to be but hard to really tell from RUclips
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes as I ponder this a little further, you say the wing saddle sits on the longeron, is it possible the true datum line of the airfoil has much greater incedence than it appears due to say a high leading edge centre point for example?
That empenage looks awfully fiddly.
It was satisfying working it out David 👍