Well, now I'm dumping this Motorola Edge + 2022 as I'm not happy at all with this phone ( though I will miss Dex ) . OnePlus site currently offers it for $799.00. Plus $120.00 if I trade in my LG V60 ( should I?? ) and an additional $30.00 coupon for registering on OnePlus - so total cost is $649.00 plus tax - FOR 16 GB OF RAM AND 512 GB OF STORAGE! How can I pass on it? Gotta get accustomed to Oxygen - is this gonna be a long learning curve Juan?
I ordered one. Been a happy OnePlus customer for nearly a decade. My first gen Nord i got as a company phone is out of support and i really wanted to get back into the flagship game, but not at any cost. The 12 brings back what OnePlus used to be the kings at, competing with phones way higher up the market at way lower prices. I really enjoy OxygenOS even after it's 'ColorOS' updates, and it never grows old having a phone most people don't know about, that is insanely capable.
I think you give the most fair reviews of OnePlus phones out of anyone out there. And you definitely give the most accurate, detailed camera reviews of OnePlus phones. My personal experience with these phones always match yours each year.
ALWAYS happy to find a few other geeks that like this stuff. I know I'm a crank, but I can't see ANY phone touching this price to performance this year.
I'm with you. I preordered the OnePlus 12 and traded in my 10 Pro. I've owned the 8 Pro, 9 Pro and 10 Pro skipping the 11. My only real disappointment is the IP rating. I feel like the selfie cameras on OnePlus phones used to be a bit of a wart but not now with the 12. I've always been fine with the camera experience otherwise and feel like they have always been underrated. I notice a wider range of opinions from reviewers about their cameras than other brands. But I've always been about the OS speed, the screen, battery and charging speed. They always deliver on that and seem to bring even better performance post launch. One of the first things I do with a new OnePlus is try it out in my car and see if Android Auto has less errors. I noticed a jump in Spotify sound quality and Android Auto usability from using a Samsung Galaxy 10 Plus to going to a OnePlus 8 Pro one year. You always find the best unsung aspects of these phones and highlight them. I intensely look forward to your future coverage of this phone.
Oh nice! The jump from a 10Pro to a 12. You're gonna like that battery life! I wish they kept the 4k/120 mode on the camera, but the rest of the phone should help make up for that 😊
Hey Juan I really like the insights and perspective you bring to smartphone tech youtube or whatever you call it. Reviewers are too obssessed with presentation today and the average consumer denominator which kind of brought about or atleast exarcebate techie syndrome which i like to call it. And don't get me started on the wireless charging obsession because it is wasteful and ineffective but ironically is somewhat concerned for the environment too.
I think the 24+ and OP12 are a lot closer than you are playing it off to be. OP12 has better camera, but the screen and processor are a wash. OP12 has a better battery but the battery in the 24+ is not anywhere near bad. It costs a little more but you do get Dex and the Samsung Eco system that can be important to some people. If you already have the galaxy watch, buds and maybe even a tablet, all those things work better with Samsung. Honestly, if it wasn't for the curved screen I would have got the OP12 but I really hate curved screens.
When I did MKBHD's blind camera comparison, One Plus Open and One Plus 11 were my photo winners. It does seem like lots of reviewers focus on specs and if the phone is Apple or equal to it. Not many actually seem to test the phone and use it. I wish more reviews were more practical like yours. Thank you!
Thanks for that. I really feel we're at a point where the processing differences between premium phones aren't "problems" but differences in how the cameras are handled. Someone saying they can't good photos out of OP is telling me, they didn't get familiar with the cameras.
@@HARDYMANGAT Pixel 8 Tensor 2 processor limits the phone. If you can get past that, it's solid. OP12 beats it in most cases except for maybe some AI features
It''s a very different animal and a very different oneplus. I preferred the 8 pro and 9 pro era of OP, and this is a return to that flavor. You might dig it, you might now, but I personally think this is the strongest offering they've ever delivered.
@@SomeGadgetGuy What do you think about the Samsung S24+ ? It fits into the case (Note 9) so that you can use the Razer JungleCat controller. It makes it one of the few options to have a real pocketable gaming system. To me it's better than carrying an obsolete PS Vita Slim, or something like the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro. Thoughts on pocketable gaming overall? Maybe a video idea to come? Cheers in advance Juan!
I preordered mine last night. They're giving bonus instant credits for trade ins, so got $300 instant credit for my old OnePlus 9 which I only paid $300 for to begin with and all in all got 16gb/512gb model for alittle over $500. That's an insanely good deal for a brand new phone with killer specs
Hey congrats man... I am planning to order mine and need your help. How does the trade-in work, the shipping service guys collect it or do we have to courier it?
@@HARDYMANGAT I would choose the OP12, because it's so much more powerful and for the fast charging! The pixel 8 is not bad, but the Tensor G3 is sucks a little bit
Yes, most youtubers never even try to learn how the camera works. It either works like iphone (point and shoot with nobrains on) but OP cameras have always been really really good if you have used hours and hours to learn the how it functions the best. That is like basics of photography, you dont buy a expensive camera just to point and shoot...
I've said this in previous videos, but it's like you took a successful wedding photographer who shoots on Canon, and on the day of a wedding, swap their gear for Sony. Tech "reviewers" act like that's a camera problem that it's not "good enough", when really it's a user issue.
That's just how most people want to take pictures. People just let the software do the work. Pixel phones had great pictures even though the first couple of generations had only one camera: the MP wasn't even high on it. It all depends on the user. If buying a Oneplus and configuring the camera setting works for you then you do you. It's all about convenience and that's why either most people just buy a Apple or Samsung phone. LG smartphones had great cameras and settings and were priced lower as well but the general public didn't buy too many LG phones. LG eventually shut down their mobile division and stopped selling smartphones.
That's not what I'm saying. Take five phones out of your pocket and JUST push the shutter, and you get five different images, with different metering and different processing. The user who lives with any ONE of those phones will build an expectation on what that phone does to an image, and they'll start composing for that at an instinct level. It has nothing to do with the weak argument that techies like to throw in, that somehow pros are always "fiddling" with settings. I am specifically talking about the user experience as it relates to auto modes. The user builds an expectation, and when a new phone turns out a result that the user wasn't expecting, they will likely blame the phone. That's incorrect. It's a user familiarity problem.
You've gained yourself a new subscriber! Great video; clearly and thoughtfully put together whilst making good arguments. I agree, this year the 12 is looking mighty! And in the UK the charging speed is reported to be 0-100% in 23 minutes I believe (higher rated charger) so coupled with the immense battery capability of the device, I can see this being my phone for a good long while.
Best phone so far with that price also. Better than S24 in many ways. 1. Better, bigger battery and charge waaay faster. 2. Better screen due to more BIT colors and smoother scrrolling due to their new tec and much brighter. 3. CPU has been showen better in many benchmark tests here on RUclips. 4. Face onlock is way faster and does not lack in miss readinga.... Basically This phone is better in all the areas that really matters.... Samsung still have a better camera tho if you are into that sort of things and some gimmic things that really doesn't matter..... It's pure crap by Samsung to have a phone like that with that price when you can get this.
Can't wait to get mine. I'm upgrading from my OP7 after 4.5 years of usage, currently the battery is giving me a poor 4 hr screen usage. Boy am I in for a mind bending surprise.
I too own OP7 since that long and it seems they did pull the Apple on us... Bringing down the battery performance to a shitty 4hrs or less after the last update.
@hellsfavoritesaltyberserke4724 true... But considering the advancement in battery technology.. it seems all OEMs want the hardware to lose its relevance in 2yrs.
I ordered mine, I can't wait. I wanted S24 Ultra but too expensive and has a pen and nice camera that I'll never really use. For $1097 CAD 16gb RAM 512GB with $14 case is a pretty good deal, I hope they keep up the trend with these flagship specs midrange pricing.
You were the first review I've seen that mentioned a lot of the unique features in OOS for the Oneplus 12. Your tangent about wireless charging was a new take I haven't seen yet either, and I'll have to say I agree.
It's fun to really use each device for what it does well, instead of pretending that "different from uh iPhone" is all you need to say to dismiss something.
And Marques said he didn't need to review this phone because it is the same phone as last year and he's been busy, yet he reviews Apple and Samsung same crap every year.
I'm sorry, but I've never appreciated the "if you don't agree with me, you're an-insert derogatory label here" argument, regardless of the subject. There are legitimate reasons to stick with a brand. There are other considerations over price. Ecosystem immediately comes to mind. There are brand exclusive features that can be important to consumers.
Sold. 512GB model oreordered and I snagged the wireles charger before they sold out. Sent you a Tweet btw. Oneplus sent me a coupon for the OnePlus Watch 2 after I placed my order for the 12. Looks like it's comfirmed and will be announced at WDC.
Oh dang! They haven't even told us about the watch yet. I just started playing with the earbuds LOL. Sorry I'm not on the Xitter at all anymore. Please hit me up tho. Always down to chat on the other socials.
I own the s24U, iphone 15 PM and now got the OnePlus 12. Honestly the one plus is the nicest of them all! It feels smoothest and best. Also got some great features even if without AI. love it
Its good to see competition between the Chinese phone companies really heating up. The 2024 offerings from companies like Oneplus and Vivo are really good while still undercutting SamApple. Excited to see the premium tier smartphones from Oppo, Honor and Xiaomi along the year.
Which reviewers are you referring to? Every single video I've seen praises the phone and concludes it's the best value for money in 2024 and you speak like "yeah the phone is really good and I'm not afraid to say it".
That bit about trickle charging wirelessly is spicy and i agree wholeheartedly. My Pixel 7a turned into a hand warmer while charging wirelessly and I was concerned that the battery. Long story short; broke charging pins that provides wireless charging to replace a battery that i think was never the problem...
Love your take on all of this. My move from OnePlus to pixel 7 got me to experiment with super battery saver on pixel and I get 8, 9, 10 hours of screen on time. So I've almost retired my OnePlus 8 t but yes I miss the louder speaker and the FAST charging! (And the cooler operationing while fast charging while running two apps in split screen.) My pixel does very well in low light and by simply clocking the shutter, but I miss how I played with settings like color temperature for sunsets on my OnePlus phones. Also OnePlus seems to have data within the photos that responds very well to boosting saturation etc in post processing. I sorta miss that. I've tried to convince myself that I'm done with OnePlus, but getting a quality zoom with large sensors on wide and main and vooc now I'm off to OnePlus's website. Oh by the way, I've been hoping to mention the app super display to use tablets as external monitors (retaining touch and pen input) even though I have a lenovo tablet with HDMI in, I never use it because of super display allowing touch and pen. I even have two external displays (one touch enabled) super display takes the finikyness out of the cabled connection. (But super display also works cabled)
@@SomeGadgetGuy cool. It seems like something that straddles the line. Extra display, but wireless even though you have good reasons to poopoo wireless. Like I said, retaining touch and pen is pretty big for me. It even makes my extra cheap 14 inch slow Android tablet useful.
The 4-tier system that you mentioned is very well laid out. Much more relevant than the traditional 3-tier one. Most of us should be happy in the premium tier. Not sure what kind of justification is needed to be in the ultra. 😅
Honestly, I'm TRYING to get more folks to shop mid-range now. There's VERY LITTLE a $400 phone can't do for folks with daily driver needs. 👍 I shop ultra because I try to replace a laptop and a camera for travel work LOL. I am not "avuraj cunzoomer".
The snapdragon 7+gen 2 has been phenomenal for me. I find that what I need is an adequate amount of RAM so that my phone doesn't start unaliving apps. I also know for a fact that I need a headphone jack.
I would absolutely buy this phone if it had a 5X zoom. I currently am using the P30 Pro and can't give up that zoom. Not many options with 5X and hard to decide. I like that you mention the heat from wireless charging. I notice it and have always wonder why it heats up even charging so slowly. Also, I know you like desktop mode. My P30 pro has it but I only tried it once. Have you ever tried the Huawei?
Great and honest review as usual Juan. What your getting for that price point, i don't think there is anything else on the market that comes even close.
Thanks for your honest review of the One Plus 12. I’m in I will buy this phone as I’m sick and tired of the other U Tube morons who always push the Apples or the Samsung’s and truly it makes me sick. Keep up the good and honest reviews Brother.
I knew once this phone came out, i'll go straight to your review first lol. Oneplus is no longer my daily phone (sadly because my OP9 fell victim to the green lines) and this year should have been my upgrade. Happy to see that Oneplus can still be my future choice once my run with this Pixel runs it's course. I think Oneplus actually learned its lessons after the 11. Going back to having one main model for the year is the right choice instead of having a pro. I genuinely miss the great speakers all my previous Onplus's spoiled me with. Oxygen OS also polished itself years on after the release of Material You. Damn. I really want to get back soon... PS. Mrwhosetheboss sucks, and is a content shill. Zero regret unsubscribing. I wish i could subscribe to you more than once.
Dude, that familiarity and brand loyalty analogy is spot on. Just ordered this phone after using Samsung Notes exclusively since 2013. I'm done with their premium prices for less. Let's hope this phone doesn't disappoint
Amazing review, so different from the traditional tech copy+paste reviews, I'm OnePlus fan, switched from 8t to pixel 7 and regret since week 2, I'm coming back to OnePlus for the 12R, hope to see your thoughts about that model.... Regards, and you've got a new subscriber 👍🏾
Excellent review, Juan. Though, I was confident of my decision to order the OnePlus 12 this morning, being backed up by your expertise, makes me feel that much more vindicated.
Hey Juan, since you are one of the only techtuber that actually care about desktop mode on Android, how does this fair? I want to upgrade from my Note 20 but the lack of DeX-like on phones is kinda a deal breaker for me. So far, I only know that Samsung, Honor and Motorola bother to put a proper desktop mode in their flagship phones. Hope you would also review the Honor Magic6 Pro sometime next month when they launch internationally
Out of the box, Android 14 desktop mode is even more broken than 13. You can lean on apps like second screen and task bar to help, but Google is keeping us down.
I can't really wait to get mine! I have my 6T since 2019 and I think it's given me enough of its life. Absolutely dreaming about having the 12 in my hands
Does the OnePlus 12 support Miracast aside from video output? I've been wanting to try something different that is not Samsung or Google. I own the Pixel 7 Pro, but I miss Miracast and video output. I don't want to rely on Chromecast-only devices anymore.
Cool review! Quite informative. So with big Samsung disappointment this year with no real update and return to Exynos in my region this Oneplus, Vivo and others are imho way to go. Would be however interested in video output to external monitor (any 3rd party or insider option for desktop mode??) and whether I can wirelessly cast screen to Samsung smart TV as I can with my Galaxy S23+ (I don't mind if 3rd party app is needed for that)? And how about build quality - there's been some back panel sealing quality issues reported on the chinese version of OP12?
I currently have a S23 ultra, which I've loved. but I'm seriously considering switching to a OnePlus next year. they just seem like the best USA Android choice for me. solid review as always, Juan
The S23U is a MONSTER productivity phone. That should last you a WHILE, but some of the fun stuff is REALLY fun on other devices if you get that itch to switch.
@@SomeGadgetGuyI made the switch just last night from S23 Ultra I really do not like the force stops after last update to Android 14 I really don't understand why Samsung can't get it right after a recent update but so be it. I'm back to one plus. Sending back the S23 Ultra to Amazon by Feb 1st so will have to use my pixel 7 Pro for the time being til my One Plus 12 arrives and yes I got the upgraded model for $799 512GB and 16GB RAM insane it's a deal I just couldn't pass up lol
Really good video and as a former Oneplus 6t and 7pro onwer i wanted to give them a try again , but Samsung will give me $550 for my Galaxy s21 Ultra . The Galaxy s24 plus ends up being $449 and the Oneplus 12 is $530 after $270 from One plus with a $30 discount . I have to add I got $150 form Samsung with preorder so I got a charger and a good case and a screen protector . I had the Oneplus 11 last year but returned it do the screen not getting bright enough for me and the phone being a bit top heavy and off balance . I don't want a curve screen and don't like lack of good cases for Oneplus phones , I'm a contractor so always in an unfunished house. I understand this isn't a problem for many ,
I think for existing Samsung owners it makes sense to stick with Samsung since they give you great deals on trade in. It might end up being less compared to OnePlus deals. Maybe it might not work out the best in all situations. I think if you buy a smartphone straight with no offers OnePlus might give you an alternative to pick from. For my example, I am trading in a Note 20 Ultra which Samsung will give me a $600 value for the s24 Ultra. With all the discounts and a free buds pro2 it will cost me around $599. OnePlus site will only give me $280 for my Note which end up being $519. If I had to pay more than $600-700 then OnePlus would be a better deal. If I just sell the Buds Pro 2 for just $100 then it will end up being cheaper. The buds 2 Pro retails for $250 on Samsung's site.
Yeah this is my dilemma. I have a flip 5 I'm moving on from (too delicate for my lifestyle and workspace, app work better on main screen making outer screen a gimmick). Onplus is giving me 500, while samsing 600. Also when you throw in protection plans it comes down to a $40 difference. I've had curved screens in the past but there still more expensive to repair and are to find good cases for as well. Best buy is seting up demos for the one plus 12 so I'm gonna try it and see if I can get used to it and the weight/thickness of it. Love the raw features over bloat and ai stuff I'll probably never use on the s24plus, but that phone is surprising thin and light which I would prefer. Honestly I'd wish they sold a 12gb/512gb ver of the standard 24 as that phone would be preferred for my usage and performance a more pokectable phone. Just like to have more headroom for hanging on to the phone for longer periods
@@midnitestate Do you really need the 8GB? Maybe if you check your RAM usage you might find that 8GB is good enough. Even when I have a lot of apps open and I multitask I'm not hitting my 12GB limit. At least right now you can get 512GB free upgrade. Right now One plus 12 is upgrading you to 16GB but I think that's a bit of an overkill. But the One Plus will only support the phone for five years compared to the seven with Sam.
@peterparker2068 no I don't necessarily need anything over a gigabytes of ram. Actually I've never had a phone with over 8 gigs of RAM and not had too many issues. Outside of the random app closing to save memory. But if I'm going to hang on to the phone for a long period of time it wouldn't hurt to get slightly better specs just for longevity purposes. And I agree the 16 gigabytes of RAM is overkill on mainly for gamers but if you are going to keep the phone for the full amount of time the phone is supported, then it's nice to have that Headroom.
A fair person who speaks the truth that is in his hand and does not make concessions to any brand. I respect you, man. I will subscribe to the channel with you. You are a true genius.
You are spot on with this review. While it is a great phone One+ in my opinion made 3 major misguided "improvements" 1. as you said the curved screen is lame and dated. Makes the phone impossible to hold without the bumper case (which should be included with the phone). 2. moving the volume button to the right side. WHY? now hit power button when trying to volume down. STUPID! and 3. UNLESS I AM MISSING SOMETHING - WHAT IN THE HELL DID THEY TAKE AWAY NOTIFICATION LIGHTS WHEN THE SCREEN IS OFF FOR? THIS IS A KEY FEATURE FOR ANY DAMN PHOINE. THIS SIMPLE LITTLE FEATURE IS SUPER IMPORTANT! i MEAN WHAT THE HELL? SO IF I LEAVE MY DESK AND COME BACK - I NOW HAVE TO PICK UP MY PHONE TURN IT ON AND CHECK TO SEE IF I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING NO LITTLE BLINKING LIGHT? THIS WAS ALMOST A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME I WAS SERIOUSLY CONCIDEREING RETURNING IT - TOTALLY F'ED UP ON THIS ONE+....
The OnePlus 12 looks like a winner, with a price tag of around $800 (converted from the indian pricing) do you think it will reclaim some market share in the US?
I hope so, but I doubt it'll be a heavy hitter again without more marketing. I can see a future where OP stays out of carrier stores, but not without ads telling consumers they exist.
Got my OP12 for $749 (w/ Trade-in) bundled with OnePlus watch 2 for $99...all for $849 (plus tax in the US) I also have the S24 Ultra....honestly I find myself using the OP12 more. No gimmicky Ai & longer battery & charges super fast.
Getting mine tomorrow. I was with Oneplus for the 6T, 7 Pro and the 8 Pro. Then the 9/10/11 lost me. I went back to Samsung. Yes. Shame on me. Currently making this comment on a Fold 5. I would love to afford the Oneplus Open but.. Kids... I also really wanted the 1TB model but the wait times are insane in NZ. so the 512 model awaits me tomorrow morning.
I will change from a Iphone 15 pro max cause i hate iOS, its so complicated. why did i get the iphone in the first place, cause Oppo was Banned from Germany i couldn't get the find x6 Pro, but coming from a find x 3 pro colorOS (OxygenOS is ColorOS with a fanzy name) is so much easier to use than iOS it feels like switching from Windows 11 back to XP. Also the Iphone keeps overheating after 2 dedicated patches to fix this its still overheat while gaming (genshin and Honkai Star Rail) and wireless charging (so it stops charging until it cooled down) but maybe its a tesla problem and will work with an apple charger im not willing to buy. you want as working smart watch with your Iphone dont expect an huawei one to fully work cause iOS cancels apps what working in background and paying 400€ for an apple watch with 18 hours of battery life? My huawei can do 10 days with no problem is already 2 years old and came in sale for 189€. Want to use the new dynamic island on apple get and extra app with monthly sub....
Since i got my first smartphone in 2008 I was used to charge my phone overnight via cable or wireless... Since i got my 12 (First 1+ Device ever) i just plug the cable in the morning in while Im getting ready for work and thats it. The one small thing I hate about the software is the anoying red 1 everywere
Pre-ordered the black one on Amazon it's a very compelling purchase considering what you get. Hoad to go with the black...the green looks like my mom's kitchen counter from the early 1990s lol.😂
Although the price in Europe isn't as competitive as in the US, I'm again sticking with One Plus. They at least deserve the chance to dissapoint me, which they haven't been able to do with my One, 5T and 7 pro. Did check out the other brands extensively before I made my decision but there wasn't anything compelling me to change brands. Looking forward to 6/02!
I enjoyed your video but if I'm completely honest, I don't really like how much "eye movement" you make. It feels really overdramatic. That's a minor gripe though, I still like what you do.
thanks for the breath of fresh air...because I can't stand other youtubers hyping up garbage companies (🍎) (S) when there are other companies literary doing better, value for money...
I say having wireless charging is a bonus. Plenty of times when I'm in Vegas and I'm on the other side of the strip and my phone is about to die. Luckily the slots does offer wireless charging 😆
I paid $549 trafing in my 9. This phone is awesome! They can meep that over priced crap. The charging alone makes this the clear winner. The rest is all a bonus and there are kits of bonuses!
How is call quality with this? No matter how good a phone as a "do everything pocket PC" is, its still a deal breaker if it struggles to function as an actual phone.
Thanks for your fun, candid and detailed review of the OnePlus 12. I stumbled across OnePlus about 3 years ago with an 8T...late to the game, I know :-). I own a cell phone repair and sales store, and have owned all the main brands across the past 10 years, and some of the less well known too, like Xiaomi, Huawei, Motorola, LG, etc... even Asus and ZTE. My current OnePlus 9 Pro is my favorite phone ever! Smooth, dependable, useable, and gives me all I really want in quality and performance. And, I just ordered my own OnePlus 12. I can't wait... :-)
So many techies hold up the OP7 pro as the peak OP device, but for my money, the 9Pro was the best device OP had made. If you.liked the 9 you're in for a good time with the 12. It feels like a return to that kind of premium phone.
@@SomeGadgetGuyin some other video the guy said IQOO is almost similar or in fact better in some areas, so in the Indian market due to the price difference the IQoo might be in demand. What are your thoughts?
Man I used to really enjoy your reviews but mentioning apple and Samsung every 2 minutes in a review video is super annoying. This is a review not a versus, OnePlus should be the star of this show.
I find it very upsetting that phone SOCs has gotten so powerful but phone companies seems to refuse to include desktop capabilities on the phones. People have installed windoes 11 on a first gen surface duo for crying out loud.
I'll want to wait for the Moto Edge Plus 2024/Edge 50 Pro to see what's coming for productivity. This one makes things more difficult for me 😅 Although desktop mode... Man, what a missed opportunity (the ton of cool things you could do with the open for productivity, some are in the 12... But what if you can also have it on a dock for a desktop experience?). But overall, just wow! Also, not a single mention of AI, even though it's there.
if only they provided more years of software support, addressed the green line issue a lot of people are bringing up, and enabled more customization in the software like oneui, this would be buy-on-sight purchase.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Over here the S24+ is €130 cheaper and has more storage (512 vs 256 GB for the base OP model). Would you reckon the OP is still the better pick here?
One of the best phones at that price point that not a lot people will get sadly. At that price, it is hard to beat. However, here in Canada, no carrier has it. So you're forced to buy it through the oneplus site and pay full price.
as a lifetime samsung galaxy owner (i have the s22 ultra & note 10+), this google phone has caught my attention and is telling me to change. will it be worth a change?
I'm undecided between One Plus 12 and S24 Ultra, same price on offer in my country. What do you recommend? I already have an S9 tablet and a Galaxy Watch 5 (given as a gift)
It depends on what you like and what you use. I generally prefer mixing things up and not being in one ecosystem, but that said, if you think you'll use the S-Pen or Dex, the Note 24 would be a SOLID buy at the same price as an OP.
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bro the oneplus 12 or pixel 8 . i hv pixel 8 and oneplus 12 gives 660bucks for pixel 8 trade in what to do any suggestions ???
Well, now I'm dumping this Motorola Edge + 2022 as I'm not happy at all with this phone ( though I will miss Dex ) .
OnePlus site currently offers it for $799.00. Plus $120.00 if I trade in my LG V60 ( should I?? ) and an additional $30.00 coupon for registering on OnePlus - so total cost is $649.00 plus tax - FOR 16 GB OF RAM AND 512 GB OF STORAGE!
How can I pass on it? Gotta get accustomed to Oxygen - is this gonna be a long learning curve Juan?
I ordered one.
Been a happy OnePlus customer for nearly a decade. My first gen Nord i got as a company phone is out of support and i really wanted to get back into the flagship game, but not at any cost.
The 12 brings back what OnePlus used to be the kings at, competing with phones way higher up the market at way lower prices.
I really enjoy OxygenOS even after it's 'ColorOS' updates, and it never grows old having a phone most people don't know about, that is insanely capable.
Alert slider opens up "find in page" in Google Chrome ..in new oneplus 12
I think you give the most fair reviews of OnePlus phones out of anyone out there. And you definitely give the most accurate, detailed camera reviews of OnePlus phones. My personal experience with these phones always match yours each year.
ALWAYS happy to find a few other geeks that like this stuff. I know I'm a crank, but I can't see ANY phone touching this price to performance this year.
I'm with you. I preordered the OnePlus 12 and traded in my 10 Pro. I've owned the 8 Pro, 9 Pro and 10 Pro skipping the 11. My only real disappointment is the IP rating. I feel like the selfie cameras on OnePlus phones used to be a bit of a wart but not now with the 12. I've always been fine with the camera experience otherwise and feel like they have always been underrated. I notice a wider range of opinions from reviewers about their cameras than other brands. But I've always been about the OS speed, the screen, battery and charging speed. They always deliver on that and seem to bring even better performance post launch. One of the first things I do with a new OnePlus is try it out in my car and see if Android Auto has less errors. I noticed a jump in Spotify sound quality and Android Auto usability from using a Samsung Galaxy 10 Plus to going to a OnePlus 8 Pro one year. You always find the best unsung aspects of these phones and highlight them. I intensely look forward to your future coverage of this phone.
Oh nice! The jump from a 10Pro to a 12. You're gonna like that battery life! I wish they kept the 4k/120 mode on the camera, but the rest of the phone should help make up for that 😊
@@SomeGadgetGuyyeah. I miss the 4k 120fps video mode too. It was soo good
I REALLY hope more companies bring it back, even if it's buried in a slow mo mode.
I return my s24 ultra and saved 600 dollars 😂😂
DANG! You could buy a whole nuther phone...
Hey Juan I really like the insights and perspective you bring to smartphone tech youtube or whatever you call it. Reviewers are too obssessed with presentation today and the average consumer denominator which kind of brought about or atleast exarcebate techie syndrome which i like to call it. And don't get me started on the wireless charging obsession because it is wasteful and ineffective but ironically is somewhat concerned for the environment too.
I think the 24+ and OP12 are a lot closer than you are playing it off to be. OP12 has better camera, but the screen and processor are a wash. OP12 has a better battery but the battery in the 24+ is not anywhere near bad. It costs a little more but you do get Dex and the Samsung Eco system that can be important to some people. If you already have the galaxy watch, buds and maybe even a tablet, all those things work better with Samsung. Honestly, if it wasn't for the curved screen I would have got the OP12 but I really hate curved screens.
When I did MKBHD's blind camera comparison, One Plus Open and One Plus 11 were my photo winners. It does seem like lots of reviewers focus on specs and if the phone is Apple or equal to it. Not many actually seem to test the phone and use it. I wish more reviews were more practical like yours. Thank you!
Thanks for that. I really feel we're at a point where the processing differences between premium phones aren't "problems" but differences in how the cameras are handled. Someone saying they can't good photos out of OP is telling me, they didn't get familiar with the cameras.
bro the oneplus 12 or pixel 8 . i hv pixel 8 and oneplus 12 gives 660bucks for pixel 8 trade in what to do any suggestions ???
Someone telling me Xperia photos are bad tells me they don't even care to try to use the cameras
@@HARDYMANGAT Pixel 8 Tensor 2 processor limits the phone. If you can get past that, it's solid. OP12 beats it in most cases except for maybe some AI features
Lol OP12 doesn't even stand against x90 Pro forget about latest iteration phones
Seems like a worthy upgrade from my still 🔥🔥🔥🔥 one pkus 7pro
It''s a very different animal and a very different oneplus. I preferred the 8 pro and 9 pro era of OP, and this is a return to that flavor. You might dig it, you might now, but I personally think this is the strongest offering they've ever delivered.
@@SomeGadgetGuy What do you think about the Samsung S24+ ?
It fits into the case (Note 9) so that you can use the Razer JungleCat controller. It makes it one of the few options to have a real pocketable gaming system. To me it's better than carrying an obsolete PS Vita Slim, or something like the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro.
Thoughts on pocketable gaming overall? Maybe a video idea to come?
Cheers in advance Juan!
One plus 7bseries was Legend.. don't compare new phone whi h just specs but not so long lasting
@@patilrahulr11Had to upgrade today one plus 7 McLaren edition wasn't turning on right away when it would die
I preordered mine last night. They're giving bonus instant credits for trade ins, so got $300 instant credit for my old OnePlus 9 which I only paid $300 for to begin with and all in all got 16gb/512gb model for alittle over $500. That's an insanely good deal for a brand new phone with killer specs
Nice buy! Congrats on the new phone!
I guess you ship your old phone to them?
Hey congrats man...
I am planning to order mine and need your help. How does the trade-in work, the shipping service guys collect it or do we have to courier it?
They are giving me $420 instant credit for my S22 ultra 256gb. I will miss the S pen for taking group pics but oh well.
its 8 in the morning at my place, I will buy the OP 12 in exchange of OP9 today..... cant wait
I ordered mine today and I couldn't be more happy 😄😄😄
bro the oneplus 12 or pixel 8 . i hv pixel 8 and oneplus 12 gives 660bucks for pixel 8 trade in what to do any suggestions ???
@@HARDYMANGAT I would choose the OP12, because it's so much more powerful and for the fast charging! The pixel 8 is not bad, but the Tensor G3 is sucks a little bit
Yes, most youtubers never even try to learn how the camera works. It either works like iphone (point and shoot with nobrains on) but OP cameras have always been really really good if you have used hours and hours to learn the how it functions the best. That is like basics of photography, you dont buy a expensive camera just to point and shoot...
I've said this in previous videos, but it's like you took a successful wedding photographer who shoots on Canon, and on the day of a wedding, swap their gear for Sony. Tech "reviewers" act like that's a camera problem that it's not "good enough", when really it's a user issue.
We’ve heard this before.
That's just how most people want to take pictures. People just let the software do the work. Pixel phones had great pictures even though the first couple of generations had only one camera: the MP wasn't even high on it. It all depends on the user. If buying a Oneplus and configuring the camera setting works for you then you do you. It's all about convenience and that's why either most people just buy a Apple or Samsung phone. LG smartphones had great cameras and settings and were priced lower as well but the general public didn't buy too many LG phones. LG eventually shut down their mobile division and stopped selling smartphones.
That's not what I'm saying. Take five phones out of your pocket and JUST push the shutter, and you get five different images, with different metering and different processing. The user who lives with any ONE of those phones will build an expectation on what that phone does to an image, and they'll start composing for that at an instinct level.
It has nothing to do with the weak argument that techies like to throw in, that somehow pros are always "fiddling" with settings.
I am specifically talking about the user experience as it relates to auto modes. The user builds an expectation, and when a new phone turns out a result that the user wasn't expecting, they will likely blame the phone. That's incorrect. It's a user familiarity problem.
I think these cameras have the most character of any other phone camera I've ever used. A unique and very nice look.
You've gained yourself a new subscriber! Great video; clearly and thoughtfully put together whilst making good arguments. I agree, this year the 12 is looking mighty! And in the UK the charging speed is reported to be 0-100% in 23 minutes I believe (higher rated charger) so coupled with the immense battery capability of the device, I can see this being my phone for a good long while.
Best phone so far with that price also. Better than S24 in many ways. 1. Better, bigger battery and charge waaay faster. 2. Better screen due to more BIT colors and smoother scrrolling due to their new tec and much brighter. 3. CPU has been showen better in many benchmark tests here on RUclips. 4. Face onlock is way faster and does not lack in miss readinga.... Basically This phone is better in all the areas that really matters.... Samsung still have a better camera tho if you are into that sort of things and some gimmic things that really doesn't matter..... It's pure crap by Samsung to have a phone like that with that price when you can get this.
Can't wait to get mine. I'm upgrading from my OP7 after 4.5 years of usage, currently the battery is giving me a poor 4 hr screen usage. Boy am I in for a mind bending surprise.
I too own OP7 since that long and it seems they did pull the Apple on us... Bringing down the battery performance to a shitty 4hrs or less after the last update.
I own OP7T, ordered OP12 now. Exited to get my hands on
I have 7 pro & I'm upgrading too
@hellsfavoritesaltyberserke4724 true... But considering the advancement in battery technology.. it seems all OEMs want the hardware to lose its relevance in 2yrs.
Yes my OP 7 started to not charge up right away or even not turn on
I ordered mine, I can't wait. I wanted S24 Ultra but too expensive and has a pen and nice camera that I'll never really use. For $1097 CAD 16gb RAM 512GB with $14 case is a pretty good deal, I hope they keep up the trend with these flagship specs midrange pricing.
You were the first review I've seen that mentioned a lot of the unique features in OOS for the Oneplus 12. Your tangent about wireless charging was a new take I haven't seen yet either, and I'll have to say I agree.
It's fun to really use each device for what it does well, instead of pretending that "different from uh iPhone" is all you need to say to dismiss something.
Simply the best for sure
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And Marques said he didn't need to review this phone because it is the same phone as last year and he's been busy, yet he reviews Apple and Samsung same crap every year.
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@@SomeGadgetGuy well this aged like milk 🤣
Shout out to OnePlus for their ability to provide a powerful, premium smartphone for lower prices. Keep it up OnePlus!!
10/10 Information
10/10 Message & execution
10/10 Video
10/10 sarcasm.
I'm sorry, but I've never appreciated the "if you don't agree with me, you're an-insert derogatory label here" argument, regardless of the subject. There are legitimate reasons to stick with a brand. There are other considerations over price. Ecosystem immediately comes to mind. There are brand exclusive features that can be important to consumers.
Sold. 512GB model oreordered and I snagged the wireles charger before they sold out. Sent you a Tweet btw. Oneplus sent me a coupon for the OnePlus Watch 2 after I placed my order for the 12. Looks like it's comfirmed and will be announced at WDC.
Oh dang! They haven't even told us about the watch yet. I just started playing with the earbuds LOL.
Sorry I'm not on the Xitter at all anymore. Please hit me up tho. Always down to chat on the other socials.
@@SomeGadgetGuyI forgot man. My apologies. Sent it to you on Mastodon but my post has since disappeared off your page. Not sure what happened.
I still see it.
I own the s24U, iphone 15 PM and now got the OnePlus 12. Honestly the one plus is the nicest of them all! It feels smoothest and best. Also got some great features even if without AI. love it
You will get AI too just wait for update 😁
Which one has best display...S24ultra or 0P12 for watching multimedia contents...
@@gudlutripathy3283 Oneplus slighlty brighter, higher res, healthier for eyes and more color full
So you just buying phones out the cute… yeah ok
The Best Premium Phone of 2024 in the USA! I would have to agree. I am impressed.
I can't see ANYTHING touching this in 2024. MAYBE a Pixel 9 Pro, but I bet it'll still be $200 more...
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yep, definitely $200 more.
Its good to see competition between the Chinese phone companies really heating up. The 2024 offerings from companies like Oneplus and Vivo are really good while still undercutting SamApple. Excited to see the premium tier smartphones from Oppo, Honor and Xiaomi along the year.
It's crazy. Makes me so sad how little of that we get here in the USA. What I wouldn't give for a North American release of the Vivo...
Which reviewers are you referring to? Every single video I've seen praises the phone and concludes it's the best value for money in 2024 and you speak like "yeah the phone is really good and I'm not afraid to say it".
That bit about trickle charging wirelessly is spicy and i agree wholeheartedly. My Pixel 7a turned into a hand warmer while charging wirelessly and I was concerned that the battery. Long story short; broke charging pins that provides wireless charging to replace a battery that i think was never the problem...
Yeesh. That's rough. Unfortunately yeah, I think that's just how wireless charging is going to affect a phone like a Pixel.
Love your take on all of this.
My move from OnePlus to pixel 7 got me to experiment with super battery saver on pixel and I get 8, 9, 10 hours of screen on time.
So I've almost retired my OnePlus 8 t but yes I miss the louder speaker and the FAST charging! (And the cooler operationing while fast charging while running two apps in split screen.)
My pixel does very well in low light and by simply clocking the shutter, but I miss how I played with settings like color temperature for sunsets on my OnePlus phones. Also OnePlus seems to have data within the photos that responds very well to boosting saturation etc in post processing.
I sorta miss that.
I've tried to convince myself that I'm done with OnePlus, but getting a quality zoom with large sensors on wide and main and vooc now I'm off to OnePlus's website.
Oh by the way, I've been hoping to mention the app super display to use tablets as external monitors (retaining touch and pen input) even though I have a lenovo tablet with HDMI in, I never use it because of super display allowing touch and pen.
I even have two external displays (one touch enabled) super display takes the finikyness out of the cabled connection. (But super display also works cabled)
I've been playing with Super Display! Hoping to share some thoughts on that soon too!
@@SomeGadgetGuy cool. It seems like something that straddles the line. Extra display, but wireless even though you have good reasons to poopoo wireless. Like I said, retaining touch and pen is pretty big for me. It even makes my extra cheap 14 inch slow Android tablet useful.
Excited to see the content the OnePlus Close leads to. Hell I'm excited for the content that I create with it.
Congrats on the new phone! OnePlus Closed is a CHAMP!
OnePlus Closed is catching on 😂
The 4-tier system that you mentioned is very well laid out. Much more relevant than the traditional 3-tier one. Most of us should be happy in the premium tier. Not sure what kind of justification is needed to be in the ultra. 😅
Honestly, I'm TRYING to get more folks to shop mid-range now. There's VERY LITTLE a $400 phone can't do for folks with daily driver needs. 👍
I shop ultra because I try to replace a laptop and a camera for travel work LOL. I am not "avuraj cunzoomer".
Agreed. Like a pixel 7A can do almost everything a ultra or Max phone can do
The snapdragon 7+gen 2 has been phenomenal for me. I find that what I need is an adequate amount of RAM so that my phone doesn't start unaliving apps. I also know for a fact that I need a headphone jack.
I would absolutely buy this phone if it had a 5X zoom. I currently am using the P30 Pro and can't give up that zoom. Not many options with 5X and hard to decide. I like that you mention the heat from wireless charging. I notice it and have always wonder why it heats up even charging so slowly. Also, I know you like desktop mode. My P30 pro has it but I only tried it once. Have you ever tried the Huawei?
Great and honest review as usual Juan. What your getting for that price point, i don't think there is anything else on the market that comes even close.
My next phone , great overview, thanks Juan.
Thanks for your honest review of the One Plus 12. I’m in I will buy this phone as I’m sick and tired of the other U Tube morons who always push the Apples or the Samsung’s and truly it makes me sick. Keep up the good and honest reviews Brother.
Imagine if OP gave us a desktop mode! I love my OP12 to bits, coming off the OP7Pro
I cannot wait to unload my 8 pro (mediocre at best) for a real powerhouse device. Thanks for confirmation I needed 👍🏻
I knew once this phone came out, i'll go straight to your review first lol.
Oneplus is no longer my daily phone (sadly because my OP9 fell victim to the green lines) and this year should have been my upgrade. Happy to see that Oneplus can still be my future choice once my run with this Pixel runs it's course.
I think Oneplus actually learned its lessons after the 11. Going back to having one main model for the year is the right choice instead of having a pro.
I genuinely miss the great speakers all my previous Onplus's spoiled me with. Oxygen OS also polished itself years on after the release of Material You.
Damn. I really want to get back soon...
PS. Mrwhosetheboss sucks, and is a content shill. Zero regret unsubscribing.
I wish i could subscribe to you more than once.
If one plus put phones on spectrum ,att and others to finance it would destroy Samsung.
Dude, that familiarity and brand loyalty analogy is spot on. Just ordered this phone after using Samsung Notes exclusively since 2013. I'm done with their premium prices for less. Let's hope this phone doesn't disappoint
It's a really different animal than a Note, but it brings a completely different value for the cash.
You didn't hear it from me, but the OP12 is basically an Open that doesn't Open.
Keepin it on the DL...
Hello
Can you compare OnePlus 12 with Samsung S24+
I like how you reviewed this phone. Probably the most "fair" and reasonable tech YTber I've seen.
OnePlus 12 is still a flag ship killer 2024 with out telling you they are one of you can see you know this 😂😂
Amazing review, so different from the traditional tech copy+paste reviews, I'm OnePlus fan, switched from 8t to pixel 7 and regret since week 2, I'm coming back to OnePlus for the 12R, hope to see your thoughts about that model.... Regards, and you've got a new subscriber 👍🏾
Excellent review, Juan. Though, I was confident of my decision to order the OnePlus 12 this morning, being backed up by your expertise, makes me feel that much more vindicated.
Hey hey! I think you'll like it. It really is a fun phone to play with.
Hey Juan, since you are one of the only techtuber that actually care about desktop mode on Android, how does this fair? I want to upgrade from my Note 20 but the lack of DeX-like on phones is kinda a deal breaker for me. So far, I only know that Samsung, Honor and Motorola bother to put a proper desktop mode in their flagship phones. Hope you would also review the Honor Magic6 Pro sometime next month when they launch internationally
Out of the box, Android 14 desktop mode is even more broken than 13. You can lean on apps like second screen and task bar to help, but Google is keeping us down.
I can't really wait to get mine! I have my 6T since 2019 and I think it's given me enough of its life. Absolutely dreaming about having the 12 in my hands
Does the OnePlus 12 support Miracast aside from video output? I've been wanting to try something different that is not Samsung or Google. I own the Pixel 7 Pro, but I miss Miracast and video output. I don't want to rely on Chromecast-only devices anymore.
Guess its time to let go my op7 pro. Op12 looks like the choice.
Cool review! Quite informative. So with big Samsung disappointment this year with no real update and return to Exynos in my region this Oneplus, Vivo and others are imho way to go. Would be however interested in video output to external monitor (any 3rd party or insider option for desktop mode??) and whether I can wirelessly cast screen to Samsung smart TV as I can with my Galaxy S23+ (I don't mind if 3rd party app is needed for that)?
And how about build quality - there's been some back panel sealing quality issues reported on the chinese version of OP12?
I can only speak to mine, but the build is gorgeous. I do mention video out in this review 😁
I currently have a S23 ultra, which I've loved. but I'm seriously considering switching to a OnePlus next year. they just seem like the best USA Android choice for me. solid review as always, Juan
The S23U is a MONSTER productivity phone. That should last you a WHILE, but some of the fun stuff is REALLY fun on other devices if you get that itch to switch.
@@SomeGadgetGuy please suggest which one is good to go op12 vs s23u , Cam is priority to me
@@SomeGadgetGuyI made the switch just last night from S23 Ultra I really do not like the force stops after last update to Android 14 I really don't understand why Samsung can't get it right after a recent update but so be it. I'm back to one plus. Sending back the S23 Ultra to Amazon by Feb 1st so will have to use my pixel 7 Pro for the time being til my One Plus 12 arrives and yes I got the upgraded model for $799 512GB and 16GB RAM insane it's a deal I just couldn't pass up lol
most honest review i have ever seen keep it up bro 😍🤩
Copper Dual Cryo-velocity Vapor Cooling System
sounds so cool
LOL I felt the name was a little overkill, but it is a BRILLIANT performer.
Really good video and as a former Oneplus 6t and 7pro onwer i wanted to give them a try again , but Samsung will give me $550 for my Galaxy s21 Ultra . The Galaxy s24 plus ends up being $449 and the Oneplus 12 is $530 after $270 from One plus with a $30 discount . I have to add I got $150 form Samsung with preorder so I got a charger and a good case and a screen protector . I had the Oneplus 11 last year but returned it do the screen not getting bright enough for me and the phone being a bit top heavy and off balance . I don't want a curve screen and don't like lack of good cases for Oneplus phones , I'm a contractor so always in an unfunished house. I understand this isn't a problem for many ,
I'm with you though. I REALLY like this phone DESPITE the curved screen. I wish it were more like the iQOO frame.
I think for existing Samsung owners it makes sense to stick with Samsung since they give you great deals on trade in. It might end up being less compared to OnePlus deals. Maybe it might not work out the best in all situations. I think if you buy a smartphone straight with no offers OnePlus might give you an alternative to pick from. For my example, I am trading in a Note 20 Ultra which Samsung will give me a $600 value for the s24 Ultra. With all the discounts and a free buds pro2 it will cost me around $599. OnePlus site will only give me $280 for my Note which end up being $519. If I had to pay more than $600-700 then OnePlus would be a better deal. If I just sell the Buds Pro 2 for just $100 then it will end up being cheaper. The buds 2 Pro retails for $250 on Samsung's site.
Yeah this is my dilemma. I have a flip 5 I'm moving on from (too delicate for my lifestyle and workspace, app work better on main screen making outer screen a gimmick). Onplus is giving me 500, while samsing 600. Also when you throw in protection plans it comes down to a $40 difference. I've had curved screens in the past but there still more expensive to repair and are to find good cases for as well.
Best buy is seting up demos for the one plus 12 so I'm gonna try it and see if I can get used to it and the weight/thickness of it. Love the raw features over bloat and ai stuff I'll probably never use on the s24plus, but that phone is surprising thin and light which I would prefer. Honestly I'd wish they sold a 12gb/512gb ver of the standard 24 as that phone would be preferred for my usage and performance a more pokectable phone. Just like to have more headroom for hanging on to the phone for longer periods
@@midnitestate Do you really need the 8GB? Maybe if you check your RAM usage you might find that 8GB is good enough. Even when I have a lot of apps open and I multitask I'm not hitting my 12GB limit. At least right now you can get 512GB free upgrade. Right now One plus 12 is upgrading you to 16GB but I think that's a bit of an overkill. But the One Plus will only support the phone for five years compared to the seven with Sam.
@peterparker2068 no I don't necessarily need anything over a gigabytes of ram. Actually I've never had a phone with over 8 gigs of RAM and not had too many issues. Outside of the random app closing to save memory. But if I'm going to hang on to the phone for a long period of time it wouldn't hurt to get slightly better specs just for longevity purposes. And I agree the 16 gigabytes of RAM is overkill on mainly for gamers but if you are going to keep the phone for the full amount of time the phone is supported, then it's nice to have that Headroom.
The best review on this phone yet, this phone is a beast
Does this phone support the 5g bands for US carriers.
Yes it does
This is what I call a good unbiased review. My OnePlus 11 is still going strong after a year and it's battery health is still at 💯% ❤
How you can see it?
Thanks for your insight on this beautiful device brother!!!💪🏽🤳🏽 Love your videos man!!
A fair person who speaks the truth that is in his hand and does not make concessions to any brand. I respect you, man. I will subscribe to the channel with you. You are a true genius.
Once OnePlus does a video 'Pro Mode' its over for Samung and Apple. I'm calling it now.
Wow, I didn't know this channel till I saw in it MKBHD's Waveform podcast channel's comment
Subscribed it
LOL folks were talking about ME over THERE 😬🤯
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yup !
I am interested to see if there is any large screen display utility like Dec for the One+ 12.
You are spot on with this review. While it is a great phone One+ in my opinion made 3 major misguided "improvements" 1. as you said the curved screen is lame and dated. Makes the phone impossible to hold without the bumper case (which should be included with the phone). 2. moving the volume button to the right side. WHY? now hit power button when trying to volume down. STUPID! and 3. UNLESS I AM MISSING SOMETHING - WHAT IN THE HELL DID THEY TAKE AWAY NOTIFICATION LIGHTS WHEN THE SCREEN IS OFF FOR? THIS IS A KEY FEATURE FOR ANY DAMN PHOINE. THIS SIMPLE LITTLE FEATURE IS SUPER IMPORTANT! i MEAN WHAT THE HELL? SO IF I LEAVE MY DESK AND COME BACK - I NOW HAVE TO PICK UP MY PHONE TURN IT ON AND CHECK TO SEE IF I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING NO LITTLE BLINKING LIGHT? THIS WAS ALMOST A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME I WAS SERIOUSLY CONCIDEREING RETURNING IT - TOTALLY F'ED UP ON THIS ONE+....
The OnePlus 12 looks like a winner, with a price tag of around $800 (converted from the indian pricing) do you think it will reclaim some market share in the US?
I hope so, but I doubt it'll be a heavy hitter again without more marketing. I can see a future where OP stays out of carrier stores, but not without ads telling consumers they exist.
Got my OP12 for $749 (w/ Trade-in) bundled with OnePlus watch 2 for $99...all for $849 (plus tax in the US) I also have the S24 Ultra....honestly I find myself using the OP12 more. No gimmicky Ai & longer battery & charges super fast.
No phone can compete.
Getting mine tomorrow. I was with Oneplus for the 6T, 7 Pro and the 8 Pro. Then the 9/10/11 lost me.
I went back to Samsung. Yes. Shame on me. Currently making this comment on a Fold 5. I would love to afford the Oneplus Open but.. Kids... I also really wanted the 1TB model but the wait times are insane in NZ. so the 512 model awaits me tomorrow morning.
I will change from a Iphone 15 pro max cause i hate iOS, its so complicated. why did i get the iphone in the first place, cause Oppo was Banned from Germany i couldn't get the find x6 Pro, but coming from a find x 3 pro colorOS (OxygenOS is ColorOS with a fanzy name) is so much easier to use than iOS it feels like switching from Windows 11 back to XP. Also the Iphone keeps overheating after 2 dedicated patches to fix this its still overheat while gaming (genshin and Honkai Star Rail) and wireless charging (so it stops charging until it cooled down) but maybe its a tesla problem and will work with an apple charger im not willing to buy. you want as working smart watch with your Iphone dont expect an huawei one to fully work cause iOS cancels apps what working in background and paying 400€ for an apple watch with 18 hours of battery life? My huawei can do 10 days with no problem is already 2 years old and came in sale for 189€. Want to use the new dynamic island on apple get and extra app with monthly sub....
Since i got my first smartphone in 2008 I was used to charge my phone overnight via cable or wireless... Since i got my 12 (First 1+ Device ever) i just plug the cable in the morning in while Im getting ready for work and thats it. The one small thing I hate about the software is the anoying red 1 everywere
"Samapple"
Excellent show.
Pre-ordered the black one on Amazon it's a very compelling purchase considering what you get. Hoad to go with the black...the green looks like my mom's kitchen counter from the early 1990s lol.😂
Although the price in Europe isn't as competitive as in the US, I'm again sticking with One Plus. They at least deserve the chance to dissapoint me, which they haven't been able to do with my One, 5T and 7 pro. Did check out the other brands extensively before I made my decision but there wasn't anything compelling me to change brands.
Looking forward to 6/02!
I enjoyed your video but if I'm completely honest, I don't really like how much "eye movement" you make. It feels really overdramatic. That's a minor gripe though, I still like what you do.
Do you have a law degree? If you have please share your business card. If don't, I will fund for your law degree when I will become a mafia head. 😅
thanks for the breath of fresh air...because I can't stand other youtubers hyping up garbage companies (🍎) (S) when there are other companies literary doing better, value for money...
Yea but its sooooo ugly
They really failed with the uk pricing. You can import it from China for £300 less!
But 6.82"... that's just ridiculous. I hate big phones aka phablets.
If it was around 6.5" that would be instant buy.
I say having wireless charging is a bonus. Plenty of times when I'm in Vegas and I'm on the other side of the strip and my phone is about to die. Luckily the slots does offer wireless charging 😆
I paid $549 trafing in my 9. This phone is awesome! They can meep that over priced crap. The charging alone makes this the clear winner. The rest is all a bonus and there are kits of bonuses!
How is call quality with this? No matter how good a phone as a "do everything pocket PC" is, its still a deal breaker if it struggles to function as an actual phone.
Thanks for your fun, candid and detailed review of the OnePlus 12. I stumbled across OnePlus about 3 years ago with an 8T...late to the game, I know :-). I own a cell phone repair and sales store, and have owned all the main brands across the past 10 years, and some of the less well known too, like Xiaomi, Huawei, Motorola, LG, etc... even Asus and ZTE. My current OnePlus 9 Pro is my favorite phone ever! Smooth, dependable, useable, and gives me all I really want in quality and performance. And, I just ordered my own OnePlus 12. I can't wait... :-)
So many techies hold up the OP7 pro as the peak OP device, but for my money, the 9Pro was the best device OP had made.
If you.liked the 9 you're in for a good time with the 12. It feels like a return to that kind of premium phone.
Great review!! Wow. Realistic and fair.. pay Apple and Samsung more for less - that line is epic!!😂😂
I would really like a Flagship with a flat screen, i find these so much more pleasing to watch and touch, the LG V60 was just perfect
I WANT that iQOO frame on this OP!
@@SomeGadgetGuyin some other video the guy said IQOO is almost similar or in fact better in some areas, so in the Indian market due to the price difference the IQoo might be in demand. What are your thoughts?
@@sbolar1The issue is that though it is from Oppo, the name IQOO does not sound like a serious one.
Ive had my lg velvet for years, its finally giving out on me. Any suggestions on a phone? I miss LG so much lol
Man I used to really enjoy your reviews but mentioning apple and Samsung every 2 minutes in a review video is super annoying. This is a review not a versus, OnePlus should be the star of this show.
I find it very upsetting that phone SOCs has gotten so powerful but phone companies seems to refuse to include desktop capabilities on the phones. People have installed windoes 11 on a first gen surface duo for crying out loud.
I'll want to wait for the Moto Edge Plus 2024/Edge 50 Pro to see what's coming for productivity.
This one makes things more difficult for me 😅 Although desktop mode... Man, what a missed opportunity (the ton of cool things you could do with the open for productivity, some are in the 12... But what if you can also have it on a dock for a desktop experience?). But overall, just wow!
Also, not a single mention of AI, even though it's there.
You mean, how I showed the AI subject detect? That AI?
This is easily the BEST OnePlus 12 review, ever. Thank you for this video, I do agree it is the best phone on the planet.
if only they provided more years of software support, addressed the green line issue a lot of people are bringing up, and enabled more customization in the software like oneui, this would be buy-on-sight purchase.
I was waiting ror this review, Juan. Thanks! The OP12 seems neat 😁
I'm enjoying it 😊
Glad you included "in the USA" in the title, in Europe this will be at least as expensive as the S24+
Even at the same price it's a tough fight for Samsung, but here, it's NOT close.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Over here the S24+ is €130 cheaper and has more storage (512 vs 256 GB for the base OP model). Would you reckon the OP is still the better pick here?
Yes. Snapdragon, top screen, charging, battery and you will love oxygen os
In India, highest version of OP12 costs exactly half of the highest version of S24U.
OP killing it this year ! 💚 Display, Batery, Camera's, Power 10/10
One of the best phones at that price point that not a lot people will get sadly.
At that price, it is hard to beat. However, here in Canada, no carrier has it. So you're forced to buy it through the oneplus site and pay full price.
props ty I'm sold
I really wish the OP12 was just a tiny bit smaller. Seems like a great option otherwise.
No joke. My wife just got the Pixel 8. It's a handy phone for being a little smaller.
as a lifetime samsung galaxy owner (i have the s22 ultra & note 10+), this google phone has caught my attention and is telling me to change. will it be worth a change?
This video got me to subscribe. I really despise the SamApple fanboyism.
Please do a comparison of this phone vs. Xperia 1 VI, if you are able to get one :)
I think the OnePlus 12R might be the real winner here, as it seems they're actually sold in North America this time.
I'll be following that up soon!
I'm undecided between One Plus 12 and S24 Ultra, same price on offer in my country. What do you recommend? I already have an S9 tablet and a Galaxy Watch 5 (given as a gift)
It depends on what you like and what you use. I generally prefer mixing things up and not being in one ecosystem, but that said, if you think you'll use the S-Pen or Dex, the Note 24 would be a SOLID buy at the same price as an OP.