Porsche 911 GT3 Alternative? RPM Technik CSR DRIVEN | Supercar Driver
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2021
- We placed our hands on a car that we've heard a lot about; the Porsche 997.1 CSR from our friends at RPM Technik. Here we have chassis no 28 or 'Snakebite' as it is affectionately known.
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How would you spec your perfect 997? Colour, wheels, wing, interior....? 👇
That but Carmine red.
That but with red leather interior
Actually that spec is perfect. I’m a sucker for houndstooth and green
Peppermint Green, silver Carrera Sport wheels.
Interior GT3 CS spec
CSR. Flat grey. Dark grey wheels. No duck tail. Rear seats. Houndstooth 👌🏼
This is the best interpretation of GT3 touring that never existed on this model, for the price I clearly choose the CSR an old school driver focused machine. Plus it has the signature setup by Tim Harvey just that makes it even more special.
I totally agree with you about the torque of this engine. If you check the power curves from Porsche you see that the 3.8 engine has more power up to 5000rpm, than any 911 GT engine (even the 4.0). That makes this car vastly more suitable for a road car than any GT3.
Love this video - especially how it converted a Porsche-sceptic! Beautifully put together video of literally my dream car. Got a 997.1 C2S and, if i had the money, wouldn't hesitate to get a CSR conversion. Perfect spec? Probably that exact car...minus the external stickers
Great vid, recently had my gen 2 997 C4S detailed at RPM and (Snake bite) CSR was in the showroom a stunning example. Thanks again for your vid and I think you are right, Snake bite CSR is a true contender.
Glad you liked it!
Wonderful videography! What a great car.........and, I’ve been driving Porsches as my daily drivers for 40+ years. This CSR is one very fantastic automobile!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You live my dream Sir!
That howl sounds so epic!
It’s addictive! Video doesn’t do it justice
@@scd I bet Jonty had an input in those trains as a backdrop. Jonty heaven 👍🏻👍🏻
Love the sport classic! Missing getting out for drives so bad. A houndstooth Porsche needs to be in the garage at some point.
That’s a lovely thing and I’d be hard pressed to spec it differently.
Probably keep the rear seats. Perhaps paint it dark navy blue. And I’d definitely want those Weiss gold HRE wheels.
Great little video, personally would like to of seen and heard much more 👌🏼
Thanks for tuning in!
Love RPM’s work 👍
Agreed. They’re super impressive on all projects and work they carry out. Best specialist in the uk
Very cool car. Love seeing 997 love. Best platform IMO. Had a decked out 997.1 S with a conservative 380ish HP. Sold it for a 997.1 GT3. Night and Day difference. The 3.8 had more low end torque, but ran out of steam quickly. IMS and bore scorinf madr me nervous. The Metzger is on a whole different level. You do need to rev it, but the sound from 5k to redline with exhaust is perfection. Just need to pin the coolant lines. I would choose GT3 all day everyday and glad I did 7yrs later. Now I just wish I went RS.
If you aren’t wanting to tie up the $ necessary for a GT3, how close would a 997.2 S with bolt ons compare to a .1 GT3? No track use, just spirited canyon driving. No IMS or bore score concerns with .2 9A1 motor.
This looks and sounds incredible, I would choose this CSR over the GT3. Always knew you were a secret Porsche fan Jonty 👍🏻👍🏻
It’s about time jonty came clean isn’t Paul! Thanks for watching
Love the sensation of speed in this video 😎
Glad you enjoy it!
The 80/20 rule applies to this one.
80% of the viewers can probably afford a 997, because it’s 20% of the cost of what they’re showing here. But, crucially, it will still provide 80% of the fun.
Ok, I agree, I’m not being overly accurate, but the numbers are not far off.
Porsche 997, still one of the used sports car market’s best secrets.
It's probably more like 20% of viewers that can actually spare $30-40k on a used sports car (as much of a relative bargain the 997 is) presuming the audience is American. For example, the real median personal income average of 2019 (not average household income) in the US is below $40k which makes it quite unaffordable for most here.
@@uewyryyre I'm with you, but considering the price of the customized and jacked up pickup trucks I see everyday, there are plenty of folks who spend that kind of money on a car they don't need, but want.
It's no secret those cylinders are lokasil coated and they will destroy them selves. It's an 100/100 rule to bankrupt your self.
@@idokwatcher2062 yep, my bargain 997 (30k miles, regularly serviced), is now undergoing an engine-out rebuild, that will cost me more than I actually paid for the car in the first place. The upside is that they’re worth a lot more money these days and the rebuild entails a serious performance and longevity upgrade.
Thank you Jonty, great video.. I think a bespoke reworked Porsche fro around the same money as a 997 GT3, I'd take the CSR anyday 🤟
Good choice!
Amazing drives
Singer DLS project found that the ducktail does not achieve much without additional roof moof mods, so maybe a flat tailed CSR in Porsche Graphite Blue and an interior to complement the colour. Wheels as per this video, but in satin black.
Man, the videotography though 💪👍💯
Those downshifts sounds great. Very interesting. Been fantasising about a GT3 Touring so this is quite an interesting prospect.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This thing is lovely. Makes me want to snag a 997 Carrera S and slowly turn it in to something like this.
That's the appeal to many and hope they do more than 50 versions. Yeah it's not Porsche Factory but when they look, sound and handle like this what's stopping you? 😉
Sounds like a fun project 🏁
@@phil.i.am2 money, or the the lack thereof, mostly, is stopping me!
Sounds so good!
Thanks for watching
Hello, what is the exhaust configuration?
The sound is beautiful, thank you for this test
Saw this at Rushden Lakes today. Looks really good.
Awesome
I love that engine note
lovely video and lovely car
Thanks Gee
I would love a GT3 but the idea of your own spec CSR 997 is very appealing
Tempting isn't it...
This put my smile in face :):):) because i love porsche 911 i want my dream car
Perfection.
What are the offsets in these wheels? Great fitment!
I love my GT3, but a nice spec 997 is where it is at.
If they made a 997 version of the GT3 Touring, this would be it.
Amazing!
Thank you! Cheers!
Love that steering wheel and seats. 😍
Us too!
Lovely way to send your self to an early grave without an airbag.
Is that the after market gt3 rear bumper ?
Fabulous.
Thanks Martin!
i went for a 6spd, with aero 997.2 GTS
Ah awesome
Do you have any more footage in the car with no taking? Would love to hear what it sounds like in the cabin, normal driving and pushing on..
Sure we could put a little edit together 🙏
@@scd awesome thanks!
If money wasn't a consideration then CSR as most of my driving is on the road. However when you look at residual values the GT3 wins. But then if I bought one I would never sell it :-)
Very true! Thanks for watching & commenting
so True 🦅🦅🇺🇸
I would have preferred to get more specific info.... what’s the torque, when, Rev limiter, etc....
Fair comment. Thanks for watching
Have a look on RPM’s website for all the information.
you've missed the point...this is not a numbers car its about feel
@@dagnut ....specs, numbers, technology equipment determine how a car feels. It’s food for imagination. A rev limiter at 8.5K illustrates a very different feel to what it’s like with 7.6K e.g. and so on. Your comment is just totally generic and doesn’t do this car justice....
@@fragu123 you've totally missed the point. Its only got a small power increase. This car is about feel, how can you quantify that?
not only have you missed the point you've then completely misinterpreted what these type of cars are about.
I bet you own a diesel german and talk like your a car person.
Great car, saw it in the flesh today.
Each for their own but it’s no GT3
It lacks that specialness for me, like lacking the Metzger engine for starters.
Lovely car none the less
*Mezger!
In love 😍
Thanks for watching buddy
Not sure which one I would go for? GT3 ?
That's awesome.
Glad you think so!
Nothing over the top,I like! priced it so its aspirational but in the realm...goes to internet to search for used 997,s take mine In classic Porsche blue w orange
CSR for sure it’s more like a 997 GT3 Touring
CSR to my spec ✌️
Good taste sir
Deserved some FUCHS modern wheels.
I’m sure that steering wheel is a MOT fail without the airbag, as the airbag is missing - DVSA MOT 7.15, defect a?
So what?
I'll have mine in Mint Green with Fuchs Style alloys..Job done👍👍
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CSR👌🏾
CSR please
Will something like this hold it’s value better or worse than a gt3?
On one had it isn’t made by Porsche which will trigger a lot of picky Porsche people driving the value down
But on the other it’s less common (not that a gt3 is common) and if it develops a reputation like stinger the value would go up
Who cares? If money is the problem then don't buy anything like a Porsche.
lol funny question
1st Porsches don't actually hold their values as alot of ppl claim!! "what do I mean" well watch cars being used & the prices drop alot compared to list pricing, however a low mileage. barely used example go for high prices & its from that where ppl claim porsche hold their values.....however the older more desirable, limited examples do show signs of added value.
CSR branding via RPM isn't a well established brand ie like stinger, most work carried out is cosmetic & basic suspension/engine upgrades ie bolt-on's, I believe this car has a blue printed engine which was carried-out after the CSR customisation via a Porsche specialist
& adding more salt to the wounds I also believe this car has been listed for months, so would you splash-out & buy the car?!?! as others seem to be avoiding it!
Edit side note Henry Catchpole driven this exact car still for sale via RPM 12months ago. he film this car in Feb 2020.. so good value to a high-mileage modified C2S Porsche... "hmmm" seems like alot of money thrown at a car & its not held any value.
....down supposedly....
This comment sums up everything wrong with the Internet car generation. You need everything quantitified in numbers.
@@dagnut When a car costs more than a house you need numbers and details, not "feelings" and "emotions". Sounds like the "Internet car generation" has some brains.
🤗oh my🤘😎
Thanks for watching Chaz
Let us all pray to the God of Porche flat 6. 👌💙
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Club Sport Racer 🤔
do 997 c2 and c2s have stock LSD?
It was an option
Optional but made of Swiss cheese. A more durable Aftermarket LSD is a better option than factory. Plus you can choose ramp angles to your taste.
@@Carrera-gp9od how can an lsd be optional for luxury sportscar ??
I heard that there is no LSD in Caymans even with PTV
@@sdgsdgsdg54 Because Porsche owners live in an alternate reality where sports cars don't need limited slip differentials, sports cars don't need engines that last and won't score their cylinders for no reason, and the price of their car just keeps appreciating forever every time they fart in the seat.
hmmm its a nice car, but does the previous owner think it was worth it since he's lost alot of money from buying the car to carrying out the custom spec on what's basically a basic Porsche model. on an older model I could understand it as it'd bring the car back to life & give great feed back to any driver.. however to a car that's still pretty much modern, why throw such amounts of cash at the car...
adding to that I'm sure other Porsche owners/driver maybe think the same as the cars now been for sale for over a year without shifting to anyone
not being a kill joy, but wasn't it required by law to have airbags fitted to all road going cars earlier then 2005 (the year this car was registered) not only that but for MOT's it would fail as its again required to have a airbag fitted.... so from a chew on for a car this would become such every year.... the only up shot is the rear belts being removed & the seats also being deleted so that's covered but the wheel isnt...
so hmm nice car but not worth the money even as a customised example & everyone knows a customised car isnt worth the value of the parts added.. so looking at other C2S examples with similar high miles (120K) you'll actually find these cars £40K over stock examples with legitimate mileage.. yes RPM list this car on auto trader as having 10.5K miles.... some 110K less then it really has! you can even check its MOT history to confirm such "now wonder why it hasn't sold"
sorry for the bad news!
The point of these cars is they can be driven more without worrying about mileage and depreciation unlike owning a GT3.
@@PerformaIT I cant agree with you.. ppl these days are scared of driving GT3/RS's all cars loose value with the more miles they get on them, that goes for the unlimited GT3 & limited RS models... however most modern day owners don't own them to enjoy for lengthy periods as their taking advantage of finance deals... ie drive them for s short period & then get rid, hoping not to have lost money.
these ppl are usually the ppl who cant actually afford the cars 'overall'
this example has hand over £100K thrown at it & its lost a fortune & no-one is touching it, as its mis-advertised ie wrong mileage & its the most expensive & highest mile version on the uk market. compare that to a gen1 rs & its easy picking RS all day long & you'll even get some change compared to the CSR version.
ppl these days by high end sport cars for the "look at me factor & innit for a quick quid" factor rather then to actually purely & simply enjoying the car, as per older generations ie.. look at used 356's.. older RS & GT3.. even look at F40's the list goes on, ppl enjoy them its pretty common to see a F40 with 20K+ miles.
this current car a 120K mile car even with modification's isn't worth half its list price & no it wasn't a full restoration as per upload, it was a bare metal respray, suspension upgraded, engine recently blueprinted & basic cosmetic changes..
then look at standard 2S cars low mileage 40K & less I'm sure someone would rather do a CSR custom job on one of those & still save a fortune on this car.
I however understand modifying vehicles but this as an example, ultimate it's at the upper end of being stupidly expensive & would require more work sooner as compared to other examples
not forgetting the CSR brand hasn't really taken off that well, as its also mixed with alot of controversy with the main brand RPM Technik
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It been for sale for ever, it’s just WAY too expensive for a base car worth £17k at best.
Buy a £69k 997 GT3 and fit some nice shocks and short final drive for les money.
I cannot help thinking this cars only worth £30k at best, not the £83k asking price.
Guess it was someone’s passion project, that’s what this car was all about, make it personal to you but guess it makes the market a lot smaller
The GT3 has great suspension as standard and if you get the clubsport it has shorter gearing.
The GT3 is also lighter and has downforce and the values with hold or rise, the CSR won’t rise because it will never be a proper porsche it’s just a custom Porsche
The GT3 also has a Metzger engine
Meh I'd rather have a proper gt3 that was build in the factory that some modified lower car that someone in a shed has tried to build up to be like a gt3.
I would buy a 997.1/2 Carrera S Manual and make it as simple as possible, a Trackday toy
Getting famous off of comments day 251, so I can live the dream, live every day like it’s your last🤙🚀🤙
You got this!
CSR all day long
Yeah, no LSD, engine so weak it will chew the bores like a dog with a toy. Truly a "Snakebite" to your wallet.