What Actually Happened To Teak Sailboat Interiors - Ep 274 - Lady K Sailing
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- This week we take a look at teak sailboat interiors and what actually happened to cause Beneteau, Jeanneau, Hunter, Hanse, and other major manufacturers to start the IKEA craze of veneer woods for sailboat cabins. We talk about teak production in Myanmar (formerly Burma) as well as Thailand, India, and Laos. We talk about sustainable woods and wood manufacturing.
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I grew up in Newport, Rhode Island and , for not long enough, apprenticed to a shipwright, the late Frank McCaffrey at Narragansett Shipwrights. My job was to rip firring, sweep up, layup, fill, and fair laminates, and find and preserve every scrap of teak, no matter how small. I can still smell it, even in my sleep. Teak has magic spices within it. It never completely leaves you.
Nice to see Tally Ho for your example. Cheers from Edmonton.
If you haven't been watching the rebuild of Tally Ho, you really don't know what you're missing. It is amazing.
@@1991pony , Sad that we can't buy tickets to the launch. I would plan a trip across the country, and a vacation just to go to a launch of that boat. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll do something else that can sell tickets, and have a massive event.
@@TheNefariousFoxit’s in the water…I saw it last week.
If I remember correctly, they used very little teak in the build😊
A perfect example of where a timber intensive interior is the right fit - but even so notice how much white Leo has incorporated to keep it as livable as possible. Never underestimate just how subconsciously burdensome dark spaces can be.
Tastes change and currently clean and bright is in vogue. If you spend a lot of time down below, say at anchor, when the weather isn't good and the skies are dark and grey. It's great to have a light interior.
Take a look at the Antares 44. We are basically the only catamaran builders in the market who still produce wood interiors instead of melamine and gelcoat interiors. I'll give you a tour during the next Annapolis Boat Show if you're around!
That would be AMAZING! I will be there Thursday to Saturday this week if you have time. LOVE a tour! How can I contact you?
Sancho, what woods are you using? Douglas Fir, sourced from Canada and the western US looks amazing. The grain has lovely figuring, and you can get it as long and as thick as you could ever wish for.
@@bravofighter Hey, we mainly use cherry. We've used some other south american light woods in previous boats, check our site!
The Antares at last year's Annapolis was a really nice balance between bright and wood accents...now about that lottery ticket...😂😂😂....
My 35' boat is an '84, and it's full of teak and about 20% mahogany, and I love it. A bit dark inside, but when it's beautiful is beautiful. With the maintenance, well, an onshore house requires the same, or maybe more maintenance. Love the look of those teak deck hand holds with fresh varnish. Someone else can have the production boat.
I kave a Koopmans 35 from 1982. Aluminium hull, and everything else is teak. The deck wasn't maintained very well by the previous owner, and the covid lockdown didn't help, so some splitting. Plus water leaks around the damaged windows has caused rot in some of the ply, so a slow refit is in progress.
I am just now rebuilding 40feet steel ketch, I decided to use Iroko - cheaper then teek and still it is fine wood. I do not trust new boats ;)
A UK channel (Refit and Sail or The Solent Boat Butler) recently did a couple of videos on replacing a sole with thermally modified maple. It looked just like teak and holly! I'm considering trying it to repair sole damage in our 1979 Morgan 382.
Very informative video with a seasoned perspective. I like the idea of the traditional teak interior but I do see the advantage of the less maintenance newer type interiors. A very interesting history of the unfolding metamorphosis of teak in boat construction. Thanks, Tim!
Thanks for watching!
30 years ago, I studied the cultivation of Tectona Grandis, and knew of property, very suitable, for sale cheap in Costa Rica. The teak could be harvested 9 years after planting, but the size for patio decking. An advantage is that the stump regrows.
Thank you. That was very informative. Having worked as a joiner and lived aboard an Alden schooner, I appreciate fine wood and quality workmanship, and have also wondered what happened to teak.
schooner
Now I love my Teak interior even more
I have to write this - your English is perfect, not only form me, as I know. Apart from interesting knowledge, it is pleasure listening to You.
Thank you for watching!
I love the wood interior on older boats can be teak but any wood I like. The wood just seems to breathe life into the boat.
Great video. Yup, wood is warm 👌🏼
Good info!
Great topic!
Thanks for watching!
The solution for teak is rather simple but time intensive: switch to a 60 to 100 year harvesting cycle.
Tree farming is easy, if your economy isn't a nightmare. And your political situation isn't even worse. If enough labor went to replanting, and enough forest was set aside just for the practice. You could essentially have a sustainable resource, with a full lifecycle turnaround available.
But this requires regulation, and a stable government to do it.
Sh*ts gonna have to change around the globe. None of this makes any sense, nor is any of it intelligent the way it operates now.
Nobody is doing that for their great grand children can have a teak business lolz, simple
@@fafafohigh69 I Saïd simple solution, not popular solution. We are human after all.
Bud Phillips does something like this with pine and I think some others in the U.S. He is one of the largest Land owners on the east coast, and has his land divided into four major quadrants. Every ten years he rotates operations to the next quadrant, allowing the trees to regrow for the next 30 years. The rest of his land he just sits on to prevent developers from ruining the Appalachian Mountains.
@@TheOceanX it’s a good start. But there is still a difference between a 30 and a 100 year pine. The older wood is much denser with higher load tolerances. It’s one reason people love to repurpose old barn wood.
I don’t particularly care what wood is used in the interior, plenty of other good woods out there.
Lots and lots of boats were built with not a scrap of teak anywhere near them, I’m personally a huge fan of white oak. Used to have an old Mathews lobster boat, oak frames, cedar hull and decks. Interior was almost exclusively pine, and while not a sailboat she looked pretty damn good down there.
I'm looking to buy an older Alden right now with full teak interior and I was wondering the same thing.
I do think there are various woods that could take the place of teak. Even maple is underrated. Some manufacturers like Halberg Rassey are doing full oak which I think looks nice. Definitely modern/ikea sort of aesthetic but the quality is there.
Boat I'm looking at now is as classic as they come. Teak & holly floors, V-berth, the works. This video makes me more happy with my decision to lean classic! Thanks!
"6 days thy shalt labor, and on the seventh day holystone the deck". Teak is wonderful
I'm looking for a new to me boat, the interior of the Oyster 56 is so nice all Teak and Oak. But so expensive.
Fantastic episode. Thanks for touching on the sourcing of teak wood. Though the SE Asian countries are predominately the ones with the wood. There are numerous areas of Africa that grew it 50+ years ago which are currenlty being logged in conflict zones. Makes it tough to weigh the balance when deciding. Great to see companies looking at alternatives.
Thanks for watching!
I LOVE TEAK
Well I agree if you are talking about some of the seventies Taiwanese/Hong Kong boats which lined the bulkheads with vertical teak planks, however, most boats built after that used teak veneer plywood with solid teak used only on the corners (ie: Gulfstar) basically what high end boats like the Hylas do today - and that technique does not add much weight while preserving the warm glow of wood. I think the modern production boats look like the interior of the work cubicles in office buildings.
I worked with teak as an apprentice still my favourite timber to work with
nice research
Thanks for watching!
As a professional wood worker, I have to say, there simply is no substitute for teak.
As a boat owner, I have to say that its use on the outside of boats should be strictly limited
(Unless you like spending all your sail time varnishing.)
And teak over fiberglass decks is a real deal breaker for me because of the hundreds of screw holes holding the stuff down. (One leak and you're screwed.)
Almost all old decks of the past need replacement because the planks were so thin to begin with. You can't really sand them thinner since many bungs have been sanded through.
"all your time sailing"
you clearly lack economic slavery
@@jeebusk It's. "all your sailing time"
I'll never buy another boat with tons of teak on it.
I will not too - too expensive, but there are other solutions - Iroko for example.
I will stick with my 99 Catalina 380!!
I must say that "not looking like a gentlemen's club" is an upside, not a downside. Those old ineriors were often dark. Modern boats have more space, more light, and look like you may actually be able to live there.I don't cover my living room at home in teak panelling either.
I bought a project boat last year, and with it came an entire shipping container full of teak and mahagny, as well as marine ply and other goods. I understand its worth alot these days...
I find today people are in a rush . It is clean things up in Spring and launch . Then it is go sailing and don't touch the boat till fall . I would say 90% of our club is like this
I grew up in the north of Europe where there traditionally has been two acceptable interior materials: teak and / or mahogany. Funnily enough, there was even a bit of separation, where on the west coast of Sweden, they often used mahogany (think Hallberg Rassy, Najad, Malö) and in Finland (Swan, Finngulf, Maestro etc) and Swedish east coast (Sweden yachts, Cenit, Arcona) they typically went with teak. I realize modern interiors are in some way better, but to me.. I dunno, it feels wrong. I want to be in happy place, in the dark cozy real wood interior. Luckily, my boat, built on Swedens east coast in the 90's, has full teak interior. I call the interior design style "mood of environmental irresponsibility."
Ah, happy to be a diletant. Even that Hylas, even though I'm sure it's well built and all, looks like a luxury version of some French 80's production boat made of cherry or some such shit, the cabinetry is all wrong style wise and high gloss surfaces :D
New Tartans are outfitted with either red cherry or maple interiors as standard - mostly solid state. Looks beautiful. I met a guy who went with the teak interior option and it was like $35k add-on cost.
Birchwood gives nice airy feel as well for interior.
I have some teak built into my 1980's Golden Hind. Cannot get new replacements (at almost any price) here in Europe. Internal joinery is Sepele. I have had some success getting replacement with old external doors (if you are very, very careful). The second option is Iroko. Its a pig to work, and does not weather the same - but - it can look good if finished. Old Iroko is common enough in old (garden) decking or doors.
Take a look at a Kraken , they dont even have teak and they are north of a million bucks . I love out Burmese teak interior in our Bristol and it still looks like new .
Tack, Mr Tim 😁🎉
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I own a 1984 CapeDory36 and believe it is one of the best values in a traditional yacht. Not sure if the teak is old grown or not. Sure seems as though it is. And there is a lot of it both below and on the deck.
Lived aboard 10 years , Pearson 42 factory new in ‘82 ,I did teak work for a living , still own some raw teak… in todays world it is silly .. hard to maintain, super expensive and no one even knows what it is compared to the past..let it go.. it’s like living in a coffin with all teak and mahogany… some traditions are best left in the past.. 99% of people who sail today are not worth killing a fine old teak tree over.. let it live …
Yeah plant plastic trees 😮
@@simon-oy6um yea.. I would love to have a Lexan tree…. Would be rich…
Another great episode, Tim, and one I'm sure you enjoyed researching since you've been saying for a long time that you're not keen on Ikea-style interiors.
Clearly cost has been the issue, as anyone who has tried to source the stuff for boat repairs will tell you. It seems all those French production boats used teak decking, which is now needing to be repaired/replaced.
I think the European boat builders are also plugged in these days to the interior finishing systems being used in European campervans. They look quite similar, and may very well be produced in the same big automated factories. The idea in the vans is to reduce weight, but I wonder how the same sorts of veneers on things like tables will hold up on a boat.
My other big issue with these Ikea interiors is the lack of rounded moldings. When you walk through them there are sharp corners sticking out everywhere, especially in the saloon/galley. That spells bruises when you underway and heeled over.
As for the darkness of teak below decks, I can understand why many people don't like it, especially once you’ve spent a few days holed up in inclement weather. My boat, a Catalina 34 mk 2, is much lighter below, but I wasn't sure what wood was used. After seeing your video, I've now done a bit of investigation, and it appears it is mostly ash.
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Hey Tim, I recently found your Chanel, and I find it and you to be awesome. Thank you so much for all the time and effort, and knowledge you put into informing people about entering this lifestyle. As someone who is just getting started into this dream adventure myself. I am curious if it would be advantageous to cover some of the maintenance dos and don'ts. For example, I come from a fairly extensive mechanic background, and when I see you talk about things like sweadge fittings and things my brain says, OK it seems like I should maybe lube those with maybe a silicone based lubricant to keep them nicer for longer and things of that nature. How much of that mechanical background is applicable? And what might I get get myself into trouble with. What products are good for salt and not and things like that. I know that there are a lot of ways to find those answers, but I just thought that maybe it is a topic worth covering, and it seems your experience might lend itself well to it.
There is plantation teak, very eco friendly, and although not as drable, is great for interiors. Also can use ipe for exterior durability. Cyprus and cedar heartwood is good and from USA. I use them on my Pearson 35. Light color seems bigger inside and so I have white cedar bulkhead and tan deckhead, with some ipe and teak topside.
Cheers
Thank you for the Teak insight. I just bought a boat with a full teak deck and cockpit. It needs cleaning, sanding and repair. It might be its last sanding because it's a production boat from 2012. I'm debating what to do in the next few years: Do I replace the deck with real teak or use fake teak composite? Real teak now sounds unethical and very expensive.
Absolutely
A couple points:
Iroko is a good substitute for teak. I just used it to make a replacement seahood and it looks amazing.
Yes, teak prices have gone crazy, but also the shift away from it also just mirrors the shift away from quality furniture. It’s cheaper (materials and labor) to screw together plywood. Boat builders could just make beautiful materials out of *solid* cherry, or Brazilian cherry if it was just about moving away from teak.
Yes, teak (and mahogany) make for a dark interior and each to his own. We elected to keep it and use light cushions and maple slats on the walls (and more lighting) to help things balance out.
Tim, I have an 80s Dutch sailboat with teak finish from floor to the deck. But all of it is veneer. I am certain that all the teak you see on high end boats is veneer. I have worked with high end furniture manufactures and well placed veneer has always been acceptable in high end furniture. So I oils not downgrade boats with beautiful wood veneer interior.
On the right boat of the right era, a full teak/timber interior is wonderful. A work of craftsmanship to be appreciated and preserved. But for modern monohulls they're simply too dark and maintenance intensive for long-term living, and for multis it's essential to use lighter materials. Tradition has it's place, but so does progress.
Not gonna lie I much prefer the modern style. Not a big fan of the dark wood interior - a sailboat is already a bit of a cave that dark wood is only increasing this feeling.
This episode hits home for me while I await the closing on our new boat.
How's this for the craziest boat shopping story of 2024... I set out to buy a Viper 640 to put on my local lake until I move back near the ocean in a couple years. (I'm an hour drive) During the shopping process, I asked my wife if there any features she would like on our "little lake boat" and she said, "A wheel, lifelines, and a head." Well, that wasn't going to fit on our lakes or be pulled by our Subaru.
A couple months later and the seller of a Beneteau 50 slow-walks things past our closing, withdraws the boat, and then relists it a few days later for $50K more. In our sadness we looked at some Nautor Swan ads.
This morning, we have a deal on a Swan 59. 0_o I would not have predicted this outcome in a million years.
Great video, Tim. I'm an old codger, prefer REAL wood over the Ikea style. But teak here in Annapolis is $50 a board foot the last time I checked. I substituted Sapele for $13 a board foot and to my surprise - it is gorgeous (if darker) - with fine swirls, nearly as hard as teak, saws and sands well, and certainly looks as good, if not better, than teak for inside use. I never cared for teak decks anyway.
Great tip!
I have a fiberglass boat with a koto and teak interior... Great stuff... The boat had teak decks over a fiberglass structural deck ... 20 years ago I removed the worn out teak decks and went to nonskid... No regrets. Teak should be kept below decks.
The lack of teak in production boats is largely a function of four things. 1) Design - modern production boat have molded fiberglass interiors with veneer if there is any wood. This design is not compatible with a real wood stick built interior. 2) Lack of skilled wood workers to build the high quality stick built wooden interiors. 3) Time - it takes a lot longer to build one of those old style interiors compared to a molder glass interior with drop in Ikea style furniture. and 4) Price. Teak is expensive as are other hardwoods. Also as I mentioned a stick build wooden interior is a custom interior built as a one off. That takes time and highly skilled labor. Those two elements combine to equal MUCH higher cost before you even buy the $50+ per board foot wood.
A fifth consideration is the quality of the wood that is now available. Creating a main bulkhead with the wood on either side of the passage forward being large panels of book matched teak, cherry, mahogany, etc. requires top quality wood. Given current wood quality, that generally means buying two to three times as much wood a you need which greatly increases the cost.
Well said, Todd.
Weight. People want speed, those old solid wood beauties are slow you don't want real wood for esthetics, it slows you down immensely
@@fafafohigh69 A far bigger factor than the weight of the wood in the boat is the hull form. The hulls forms on older boats are radically different than today's light weight boats. If I want speed, I will buy a powerboat.
@todddunn945 lolz what? This is a sailing channel. If you don't think sailors factor speed in sailing I dunno what to tell yah. Being in the middle of the ocean and being able to avoid a storm because you're capable of doing 12 knots as opposed to 6 knots, because you be lucky to get 6 in a solid wood tank.
@@fafafohigh69 You are talking 1 maybe two knots difference. I have been sailing for nearly 60 years and I put comfort and sea keeping ability way over speed.
I am glad the boat manufactureres are leaving the old interiors behind. I think the old high-gloss interiors only appeal to the gnarly salty sea dogs of yesteryear. If you want more (new) people to come into the world of sailing, the new styple interiors are the way to go.
It’s really just a matter of taste. You either like rich dark interior wood, or you prefer light airy interior wood. I really don’t understand why we get worked up and divided over silly stuff like this.
The 1936 Berthon Gauntlet we’ve just started restoring on our RUclips channel “Journey of Sailing Yacht Syrinx” has a backbone, frames, planks, deck, and houses entirely of solid teak. Interestingly, her interior is mainly from lovely quarter-sawn English oak with just a bit of teak. She’s one of only two Gauntlet’s out of 38 built this way. I can’t imagine what she would cost to build today even if the wood could be sourced. We’re rescuing her following several decades of neglect and her teak construction is the only reason Syrinx is still with us today.
The new Beneteau's look like a hospital room
Yep perfect for a sailboat
And I don’t like it.
Aye, that bathroom-at-Ikea style is soulless, unwelcoming and eye-wateringly bright.
Massive turn-off and a headache-inducing nightmare to keep 100% clean. Alright in an actual bathroom, but when you're trying to have a cosy night...horrible.
@@mazdamaniac4643 Excellent description.
Alder is such a…. wood. Myanmar is the only source for teak. Can’t have teak. It’s too soft, anyway.
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Is there a material typical or at least possible for use in boat interiors that checks the most practical boxes (durable, strong, low upkeep, cheap, etc.) with little to no regard for aesthetics/style?
Nothing like the smell of yellow cedar 👍
I got a 1977 tayana and it has a lot of teak. In 2008 in phuket I had cockpit,caprail rubrail, bow sprit ,and half the interior rebuilt. By pros. Cost me 3,000.00 today you might pay 30,000.00
I love all the teak on my Baba 30 but wouldn’t buy another boat with teak when I upgrade to a larger boat in the future
Renewable forest
Bamboo is a grass that is very close in strength to aluminum. In WW 11 Sitka spruce was used to build the famous Mosquito bomber. It was so fast that the German fighters were left behind. Bamboo weighs 20 pounds per cubic foot but spruce weighs 27 pounds per cubic foot. Bamboo's tensile strength is 28,000 psi and aluminum's tensile strength is 30,000 psi but its weight is 166 pounds per cubic foot. They make marine-grade boards and plywood using bamboo. When it is harvested the stump grows back in 5 or 6 years. For catamaran boats, it is very light and strong.
World war 11 ? did I miss the last 9 wars ?
These new interiors remind me of 2001 space odyssey, where Dave spends the rest of his life trapped in the white room.
That’s it! Precisely the comparison my mind has been groping for these last several months. Thank you.
I am in a shipyard, refitting my beautiful lady, an old Oyster SJ41* , when i have a walk with my dog, i clean the walk way (gloves, bucket & go to hunt trash all over the port), and i often find old pieces of mahogany & teak, i store these "false-trash-" in my boat, and make all the carpentry i need with them.
* : (btw i did not see the history of Oyster in your channel).
Cabo Rico story of not exporting the countrys teak unless was turned into a product. Some pretty smart thinking there
I've never liked the dark glossy wood in old boats. I prefer the brigther interiors of the modern boats. I like some wood but not every surface has to be wood. It's a matter of differing tastes. And possibly also whether you grew up and got used to the old style.
A wise man once told me " A Mans Worst Enemy Is His Pride, Vanity, self desire" . The plight with teak wood is an example of the cost of our vain desires in exotic display of extravaganza.
I started building yachts in 1971 and by 1990 I was thoroughly done with sailboat interiors looking like a teak forest. It was especially annoying to see such a premium wood slathered all over cheap sea-going clorox bottles. It was a marketing trend driven by the need to convince the public they were getting a high-end product for the big bucks they were spending on their fibreglass "yachts". It's as faux as plastic wood on the dashboard of an Oldsmobile.
And by the way, properly done, veneered cabinetry is every bit as good as solid wood (ask Feadship) and saves a heck of a lot rainforest hardwoods like teak, zebrano, mahogany, rosewood, ebony, etc,etc,etc. Wasting teak and mahogany on the interiors of boats has been one the main drivers of the depletion of the resources.
There are many of other plentiful and beautiful materials for your interiors if you break out of the teak and mahogany rut and use a bit of imagination.
Tim, my family and I own a few hundred acres of hardwood forest in the mountains of southwest Virginia, and even the red/white oak, walnut, and ash trees are in such demand that it's quickly disappearing. It's just worth harvesting, and it takes a LONG time to come back. Sad.
And when I see other woodworkers discarding usable scraps because they are too lazy to get the most of of a board... P's me O.
teak is also way too heavy high above the water line.
I was at the sail boat show in Annapolis and was very disappointed of the new boats Ikea style interior
I heard a lot of manufacturers have stopped doing teak decks. They're too hot in the tropics anyway. .
teak is used in boats and cars for weight. It's lightweight wood yet durable and water resistant
Good question
What type of finish is on a 1998 Catalina 380? Floors, table and walls. All I know is that it is solid wood.
Is there really not another species of wood with similar properties to teak? I didn’t know teak was so geographically isolated; learned something new today.
Tartan still makes beautiful wood cabins.
Those interiors are primarily mahogany, not teak although mahogany has many of the same issues. It’s very expensive and only grown in a handful of places. Also, the vast majority of what is sold as “teak” anymore isn’t. Most outdoor furniture being sold as teak for example is actually acacia, which has many of the same advantages and appearance but is much less expensive and more readily available. Iroko is another common substitute.
I think there are a few reasons they’ve changed, it’s expensive and hard to come by, but the labor involved in building those interiors is so much more, the time to cut, mill, steam, bend, final fit and final finish is extraordinary.
Veneer is cheap and eliminates movement associated with climate. Wood expands and contracts with moisture primarily in width. Plywood does not have this issue because it is several thin layers glued together in opposing directions so doors and drawers etc don’t swell and stick with changes in humidity. Also, younger generations like the ikea look, so they get away with it.
It’s the same with cars, people think the lcd instrument clusters and touchscreen dashboards are so cool/futuristic and expensive but they are used because they are incredibly cheap. An lcd screen costs much less than 4-8 gauges and it costs next to nothing to program a touchscreen button that communicates via CANBUS running over 2 low voltage wires compared to the cost of the buttons, fuses, relays and wiring used in older cars plus they can use one dash and program it based on options rather than have several different dashboards based on optional equipment.
It’s much much cheaper and less labor intensive to CNC cut plywood, glue veneer to it and wrap the edges than it is to mill and finish real wood, Nevermind the cost of the actual material itself.
Thats a nice shout out to Leo and his team on Tally Ho! Those guys are meticulous.
Many years back I read that sawmilling in Laos practically ceased following the Indochina war, bomb shrapnel in tree trunks would take the tips clean off a saw blade.
I weirdly prefer the epoxy interiors. If I can just spray it with a mixture of chemicals, let them rest for a few minutes, wipe them off and be done, GREAT. I understand the appeal of classic interiors, but I cannot begin to want to maintain them. Just give me wipe-n-go. And the ability to have whatever color suits my fancy.
Teak is like Gold. You don't destroy it whit color
I think it's a question of the age and outlook of the owners too.
So from my initial view on these two styles of interiors. I prefer the Ikea light wood on white vs the red wood that would be considered the legacy design. I'm not calling the light wood real solid wood but more synthetic wood. It's might be a generational thing. I'm only 31 years old. The change in interiors over time might be an interesting topic to cover in the future. I do appreciate good craftsmanship especially with wood but I'll still choose the Ikea design for yatchs.
You’re clearly not the first person to step forward and clean the IKEA…feel for your partner.
hardwoods are also out of fashion generally in Europe where the main issue is not ethical but rather that it makes for too dark interiors weather on land or boats....the price of antique furniture has collapsed so as nice as teak interior look, you got to roll with the times and brighter boats are also a good thing
I love my teak wood interior. It is a lot of maintenance but that’s why my boat holds value better than these cheap plastic ones
Largely, I think this comes down to personal taste. While I generally like interiors (house, boat, whatever) done in fine wood and great craftsmanship, I must confess that it can be overdone and some of the older traditional boats do come off as a bit gloomy. I also find that Ikea look very unappealing. So I guess I fall somewhere in the middle in terms of preference. I don't like to see wood around areas with high water access such as near the sink, or stairs to the cockpit. That just screams maintenance to me and maintenance is not a labor of love, but rather of necessity, so less is more.
Off topic question. Whenever sites listing sailboats for sale is brought up on RUclips, it seems to be almost always Yachtworld. What do people think of sailboatlistings and/or other sites? It doesn't seem like yachtworld has as many listings, but perhaps just my experience.
Nothing wrong veneer. Veneer has been used for hundreds of years. I have it on some of my antique furniture. Maybe the term veneer versus laminate has been confused here.
RESPECT I have for you.
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Teak grows extremely fast, in a swamp, its very straight, strong and beautiful. It actually has silica in it. Want to know why its so hard to get? Ask the Royals. They own the concession (also Hondo Mahogany)
I've been researching teak alternatives for the last few years. The leading contender is black locust but I've not yet put it into practice. For the interior without lots of exposure. To UV light and salt I'm thinking of using Brazilian teak. It looks close to real. Teak and it readily available and reasonably priced around $12 a foot.
I like the IKEA look because of the light reflectivity. Dark wood and poor lighting reminds me of a 70s wood panel basement. That's how it feels on non-mega yachts. Been on both at the Annapolis boat show.
IKEA … scratch it , rip it, er, replace it… wood give it some love and it will remain beautiful!
One thing you totally glossed over is that Thurston Howell III isn't buying boats anymore - there are people that simply don't like the smoking room look anymore. What looks "high end" to a buyer might be a more sleak look - where as something al wood, looks dated, and out of touch. Tastes change.
Hello! I have experience with teak wood furniture making. This is easier than you mentioned. In China I saw teak from Birma by round timber log. China have border with Birma.
The price for log tiber around 10000 RMB per qbm. It is less than 1500 USD. Of course after sawmill price going higher, but it relatively low compare yacht people expect.
About 20000 RMB per qbm I brouth best teak plank for my project.
If you need teak I can share contact in China for you.
I'm love teak furniture.
Does teac float? I would think much heavier.
We can also use Douglas Fir, and it looks amazing, has pest resistance, and lasts forever. It’s just not exotic.
I love teak on interiors, but I hate taking care of it on exteriors.
How do you look younger in this video? 😂. I'm torn on the old teak vs the new interior look...... I like both. Seriously though, you do look younger in this video...reminiscent of your first videos. Maybe do a video on reverse aging 🤔
He's made of teak, naturally oily
Hahaha thanks. Been taking good care of myself lately
It may be Myanmar but it will always be Burma to me.
When the fake Teak like shown from NuTeak in the video tries to look like real Teak, its off putting and looks cheap. However, IMHO when you use another shade of color, like Grey. I myself really like it. Its also comfy on the feet and its also easy as heck to maintain.