I really like how Jumbo and Josh disagree on a lot of the cards. I generally agreed with Josh more, but hearing them hash it out is both entertaining and helps the viewer understand the card's upsides and downsides.
Not gonna lie, I was very worried when Jimmy announced he was leaving for awhile but having jumbo step in makes me very happy and excited for the future episodes
Don't pigeon-hole me! I can be a comment section edge-lord! ... I was going to keep going but I can't even fake it properly, thanks for the kind words Rob
Hi Josh and DJ, and Jimmy of course, you guys are doing such a great job to maintain this community! Really hope the best to Wedge and your guys' channels
Love having DJ on the show. Jimmy and Josh are the best but hearing someone on the show mention the fun factor of cards and playability in non-conventional decks is awesome! Can’t wait for more.
I for one am psyched to have DJ lending a bit more of a "flavor matters" viewpoint to the discussion. I love Josh, but he can tend to steamroll over anything that doesnt fit his fully-tuned philosophy. Sometimes I don't care if a card will be the most powerful thing in a set, but if it has incredible flavor, or could make for a fun interaction, it still has some value to me. We're not all trying to win 50% of our games, Josh. The discussion about Ajani was a good example. Lots of us don't care that a cat deck isn't "Tier 1," it's a cat deck! It's still fun! So to have Josh constantly write off everything that isn't a Top 10 card gets old fast. I'm glad DJ was around to stick up for the more casual players like myself who think Lena, Ajani, Selfless Spirit, and similar are fun to run. Keep it up DJ, somebody has to stick up for us casuals! Overall it was a fun episode, but it's less fun with the constant "yeah, but that's bad, yeah, but that's not viable" every 3 minutes. Embrace the jank a little more, Josh! We appreciate the power evaluations but let other people have opinions about what makes for a fun commander experience: it's not always straight power level. It clearly matters most to you, but that doesn't mean it has to be the final word on the matter every time ;)
18:39 you say there is nothing special about the planeswalker side of bolas. his + gives card advantage, Blue. His -3 is basically damage removal and a reference to him killling a leviathan (a 10/10 creature), Red. the -4 is necromancy, and him being powerful enough to resurrect a planeswalker. finally his Alt is a reference to his touch which is lethal and causes insanity and ie losing you mind which in magic mechanics is milling/losing your deck but Bolas is prideful/arrogant and likes to make his victims reflect before they die, thats the flavor behind having one card left which gives your opponent one last turn.
Flavor yes but I think they were talking about the the power only. From the point of Commander niether they nor me would risk to flip it as he is strong as is, and none of his abilities is needed desperatly in a Commander deck of grixis colors.
This was a great episode. Sometimes, because Josh and Jimmy just agree with each other all the time, no other avenues are explored. There were some great back and forths between DJ and Josh in this episode because they don't seem to agree on everything. I really liked this aspect. The friction of ideas was super refreshing. GG
I am seriously getting the chills when I hear examples of how the medical care system is over there. Here, a mishap like Wedge's would set us back maybe, $1k, procedures, hospital stay with rehab included.
@@GoodnotGreat88 Even with health insurance, the insurance companies historically have try everything to wiggle out of paying for anything because it hurts their profit. Honestly HealthCare should not be business, but a basic human need and right.
At times I got worried that it was going too long ... then we got to another m19 card, my vision blurred, I entered a fugue state, and then rambled on even more about magic cards.
Have kinda been falling off the Command Zone lately 'cause it feels like Josh and Jimmy have been getting a little too narrow (for me!) about what makes good commander play, cards, etc. Having DJ on to advocate for a wider range of cards and strategies is a much needed breath of fresh air!
Yet I'm still perplexed by their take on Sarkhan. Dragon Hoard requires you play dragons to draw cards, while Sarkhan immediately rummages to get you cards.
It seems like the bar for a planeswalker is just higher, like it needs to be really good for them to want to play it. Josh especially doesn't seem too high on Planeswalkers in general
Glad to see a collaboration. I'm a big fan of jumbocommander's channel. Command zone peeps really cares about the community, and that's why, I believe, you guys reflect the best parts of Magic. Thank you.
I feel like jumbo helps add balance to the conversation since he tries to look for even weird bad brews for all the cards while JLK is the more tuned side. Not that’s a bad thing, but rather a nice balance.
Except it starts to get annoying when it's every other sentence, like it starts to sound like Josh just always has to prove himself as the better player and like his viewpoint is more important
I'm liking the slightly more antagonistic relationship between the two of you. DJ has a different playgroup, different sensibilities, and so brings a different perspective to the table. I don't think I could imagine either Jimmy or Josh responding to the other with "How DARE you?"
Also, I am stoked for Vivian Reid. She is simply a green planeswalker who does green things. It offers an additional "naturalize" effect that has the possibility of being repeatable. The card selection option for her + is a good thing, and also repeatable, and if you get her emblem (admittedly is it an "if") you get effectively a slightly weakened overrun perpetually. Natualize, ensuring land drops/ searching out creatures, and overrun are all green abilities that go in almost every green deck. I'm happy with her.
Definitely sending prayers for Wedge. I hope to send a few bucks too after payday. It is so heartwarming to see this community take care of each other like it does. You guys, the proff, the LRR crew, MTAcast, Wedge... all have a genuine respect and care for each other. Its awesome to see. Thank you for that.
Great episode! Awesome to see Jumbo. Latley the show has been sounding very hive mind. I need to hear about all the bad possibilities a card has sometimes and Jumbo hits every note. Great show.
Seeing Josh and DJ in this podcast is like seeing an optimist and realist debating about new cards in commander. DJ: yay, new card. We can do this, this and this. Josh: No, there are still, this and that. It's not good enough. Result: 2,5 hour review.
Cool to hear that Josh came back to the game at the same time I started! I have found memories of Innistrad block, but memories of M14 really have stuck with me as well. I remember drafting a GW aggressive deck that got my second place in a draft, which was incredible as a 13 year old new to the game.
I can just agree with a lot of people here, that it is really nice that DJ brings a bit more diversity to the discussion. Many cards might not be played in competetive decks or spiky decks, but they can still be very fun. And in my playgroup the decks aren't that strong and are sometimes more build around flavor and like DJ said, some cards can really add to that. So thank you for that DJ, it's nice having you on the show :)
If they hold up swords for when you cast Chromium, then just discard a card after you cast him in response to their spell. Still works. Also Sunclenser only removes counter from your opponents so if you feel like removing you opponent's poison counters then I guess you could do that if you felt like it.
one thing I want to say about any kind of heavy dice: they look nice and it makes a lot of fun to roll them, BUT they also make nice dents in your cards... if you have several 1000 dollar on the table, please use small dice made out of wood or plastic.
Vaevictis' name reminds me how Jin Gitaxias was supposed to be "Augur of the Core" but they had to shorten it to "Core Augur" because there wasn't enough space on the card due to the mana symbols
I'm most excited for Psychic Corrosion. Mill doesn't have a lot of engine cards for commander, and the archetype definitely needs more support. My Lazav mill deck wins it's share at around %25 but it really fizzles when it doesn't go off. More pieces are what it needs.
Get health insurance people. It might seem like a waste of money but in an emergency 6K is much easier to pay than 100k+. Seen too many people get ruined financially because of this.
Verd254 there are plenty of people who go bankrupt due to medical bills despite having medical insurance. Medical insurance isn’t enough. I wish it were, but frankly our system for paying for healthcare is the thing that has to change.
DJ was a great choice. I appreciated someone who was willing to see some jank and decks that people make just for fun. Josh seems to always talk about how you should have decks at various power levels so you can play in any meta, but is then unwilling to consider less optimal versions of cards for decks, or simply cards that people want to play. Some people love cats so they're going to play Ajani, he does all the things a casual cat deck would want, it pumps up creatures, recurs cheap cats and makes cats with his ultimate. It seems like a good fit, would you include it in a tuned Arahbo 1v1 deck? Absolutely not. But most people aren't going to build a tuned Arahbo deck.
As Josh tweets that Game Knights is available to Patrons you know that the video is coming soon ... but when? The cold sinks in deeper just knowing that other people are warmed by the production quality of top-notch magic gameplay. The icy resentment grows for a moment ... but you hold on ... for ... one .... more .... day.
We're working with his schedule - we have a lot of episodes planned throughout the year so it's not as easy as "fly on over and film!" - so you should expect to see it by the end of this year, but there are no guarantees because scheduling can often throw things off.
I tried the eclipse sleeves and have been disappointed. I sleeved up my standard deck and 3 weeks the sleeves where filthy. I take care of my sleeves, the previous set of old hyper mattes had been on for over year, not sure about eclipse sleeves.
You guys have a very different meta from me. Whenever I play, planeswalkers survive unless they’re Karn, Ugin or Bolas. Those three die really soon but Nissa Worldwaker or Jace Beleren type cards(non threatening) survive to ultimates sometimes
Well my condolences to wedge from spain, my dad had an operation on his spine two months ago and it went perfectly hope it goes well for wedge too, although we didn't pay anything since Spain like most of the western world has free healthcare.
My personal favorite thing to do with Asmadi is to take control of an enemies permanent until the end of the turn, then I sacrifice the permanent I stole using Asmadi
IIRC, if an equipped and/or enchanted creature loses all abilities, then they lose any abilities the equipment and/or enchantments give them. So you would have to voltron Chromium up after you made him an invisible stalker if you want to swing in with him as one. Specific rule about it is 613.8
Re: the setting of core sets - Core Sets used to ALL be set on Dominaria, until Time Spiral made it a post-apocalyptic setting rather than the traditional, generic Magic setting. Starting with M10 they move to be set on Shandalar, a much more miscellaneous 'mana-rich' plane. Magic Origins is the only core set until now not set on either Dominaria or Shandalaar (and even it had Liliana's storyline which began on Dominaria). Moving forward it looks like they'll be being even more flexible with the core settings to allow for reprints and minor storytelling in between the main sets.
Incorrect. Core sets prior to M10 had no defined setting. It just so happens that Core sets had lots of Dominaria cards because Dominaria is where most of early Magic took place. M10 is the first Core set to have new cards, as Core sets used to be exclusively reprints, so the setting wasn't really relevant. 8th and 9th editions had stuff like Aladdin's Ring, Peach Garden Oath, Counsel of the Soratomi, and Consume Spirit, all from planes that aren't Dominaria.
In addition to what Mordalon has said, M10 through M12 all had Llanowar Elves; another reason they could not exclusively take place on Shandalar. Elvish Mystic was introduced as a more plane-neutral alternative for M14, so it's kinda funny how it only made it into two core sets before WotC phased out 1-drop mana dorks (until Llanowar Elves returned for Dominaria).
Also, M15 was very clearly all over the place. It foreshadowed the return to both Zendikar (with Ob Nixilis, Unshackled) and Innistrad (with Avacyn, Guardian Angel), contained a rare dual land cycle that took place on Dominaria, had a bunch of new Slivers from Shandalar, reprinted the Darksteel Citadel from Mirrodin, and had the 6-card "Soul of" Avatar cycle representing various planes.
Guys, you are the best! It was really disheartening for me to see so many people in community not willing to take care of their own and help by as little as just giving a signal boost but instead judge (for realz, people? For realz?). Thank you Commandzone for doing what you do and being the way you are, always decent and inspiring.
Wow, I kinda liked Vaevictus Asmadi before... but you guys have made me love it! The tokens as sac fodder, running a lands matter theme and cards that benefit from you saccing lands, plus lots of landfall for when you hit those lands, and then Primal Surge for funsies... this deck seems so awesome now! Not to mention the added bonus that your commander is removal on a stick.
This may be a bit to late, but a quick FYI from a guy that works in the insurance industry. Medical bills can be negotiated. It is fully possible that Wedge can use a portion of what is earned from the Go Fund Me campaign and offer X as a write off to the hospital. They are very likely to accept that amount and move on. The physical therapist is likely the same.
Importantly with chromium is that you ideally want to equip/aura it up after you've discarded to make it unblockable/hexproof because it loses all abilities. So play it with sigarda's aid type abilities, puresteel paladin etc
Josh, no offense, but a lot of the you are saying (like voltron decks and indestructible being not good against wraths) seems very specific to your playgroup and not the general truth
I literally just got done playing a ton of Commander over the course of 4 days, in another state against a bunch of people I've never met before who were from all over the country/world (which is something I've done on many occasions, I might add) and I stand by my opinions. -JLK
I understand this, but at the same time, big events like GP Vegas tend to attract the spikier crowd. Commander as a format is great for when you don't have a lot of time to play magic, and it's ability to play well and play with basically anybody is a reason the format is one of the most popular. People who can make it out to GPs and large scale magic events are not always the same as those who are sort of stuck where they are/can't make it out to GPs for work/are more casual or infrequent players/can't afford to travel for a GP. At higher levels of play I think you are definitely right that you can't rely on those kinds of effects, but I don't think it's worth being so dissmissive simply because there are better options (those options might be expensive/inaccessible for some players). I think it was just a little bit off-putting hearing you and Jimmy in recent episodes being so negative about cards that weren't as powerful. I don't disagree with your assessments of the cards, in fact I think you are one of the most consistently accurate review sources I listen to. I'm not asking you to lie or fake excitement for unexciting cards, but I think it would be nice to hear some talk about cards as budget options or for silly/fun factor. Because as a viewing experience, it isn't very enjoyable to hear lots of cool cards get bashed and obviously powerful cards praised. At the end of the day, I love the Command Zone, and I think you guys do great work on Game Knights, but once you've been playing for a while, it can be easy to forget the more casual crowd of the game. I imagine it would be especially easy for you, as you spend a lot of time working on videos, recording podcasts, producing content for, and interacting with the community of Magic. Anyways, I know I'm just another face on the internet, and I'm sorry if anything in my comment upset you in any way. If you're reading this, I hope you have a good rest of the evening.
I'm not upset, I just disagree. Have you played for-fun EDH at a GP before? It's not what you seem to think. I played multiple games against kids age 10-12. I've played against people with $50 budget decks and themes like "all white-bordered cards" or "all misprints". If you believe all the games are just "the spikier crowd" well, that has not been my experience. Far from it. And to your other point: I feel it's my job to evaluate the power level of a card, especially in set reviews. People don't need me to tell them if it's "fun" or not. They can analyze that for themselves. In fact, they SHOULD decide that for themselves because every person's idea of fun is unique to them. My opinion on how silly something is just isn't that useful to the average viewer. I'm not saying I'll never comment on that aspect, I'm just saying that's not likely to be my main emphasis very often. -JLK
In all fairness, though I have played a lot of commander, I've only ever done it at a large event once (and winning with a precon of all things), and in small groups everywhere else. My experiences recently are probably skewed becuse the meta at my store is a lot of spikier stuff like Locust God and Gattock Teeg. It occured to me that what is fun can be different depending on who the players are, but I didn't think of the personalization aspect of EDH. Thank you for the insightful response!
Can't believe you two talked down Chromium and Palladia-Mors. Both would make fantastic voltron commanders, especially Palladia-Mors. Her second ability of 'hexproof until she deals damage' is -SO- easily abusable in Naya colors too.
I sort of disagree with your opinion on the new Liliana, with regards to Gisa and Geralf being way better. Liliana does what planeswalkers do best and is versatile, as all her abilities actually matter. In addition, her minus 3 is screaming for combo fodder. The minus 3 goes infinite with Phyrexian Altar and a 1-drop, as opposed to Gravecrawler only, making her excellent in Grimgrin decks. Any self-mill deck, such as Sidisi, Brood Tyrant (which is what I play), LOVES this card, and this card is like triple-duty in that deck, as all 3 functions do relevant things. In self-mill, again with Phyrexian Altar (or Ashnod's Altar+filter), this goes infinite with Stitcher's Supplier- if you have an Eldrazi titan or Gaea's Blessing in your maindeck, you go actual infinite. Given any sort of trigger abuse, this is insta-win. Also, Liliana's Contract + Arcane Adaption/changelings = Profit
I find Josh to be a bit pessimistic about cards. if Ajani would work well in a cats deck there's no need to laugh about the idea and shut it down. Magic is about having fun and testing interesting brews as much as it is playing the obviously powerful cards
He seems overly competitive, not really getting the point of fun cards, or only considering cards in a very narrow application, like with the clone aura.
I feel like no one is really listening to a set review to hear me say "This card could be fun." They already know if they think a card would be fun. They don't need me to tell them that. I'm here to give my opinion on "Is this card good?" -JLK
The Command Zone while that may be true, i guess some of us would appretiate the occasional "it's not good, but at least seems fun" . Sometimes people just don't know you guys enough to remember you're not the Spike-y type.
I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve personally always enjoyed playing some fun cards that aren’t always ‘good’ cards so that’s something I also look for in a set. I enjoy the podcast regardless
That is why i watch Game Knights, as you always see there's a lot of flavor in the decks played. I have an Ezuri elf tribal, but the phyrexian blue/green, not the mono green one, that my friends call "it's Spike-y"; yet all it does is play elves from all planes, "elect" (pump) the one i want to sit on Tarkir's Dragon Throne to command my horde, and squish the multiverse under the elven reign. No infect, no Craterhoof, only 2 creatures aren't elves (the insect that bounces elves, and a mage of the hours in case someone wants to combo), but always my go-to plan is overwhelm and conquer.
Love the podcast and videos but when did Josh turn into such a " my opinion is better than your opinion host "?? I want to hear his opinion on cards and gameplay but I don't want to listen to him telling his co host why his opinion on cards is better than there's . Dial it back a little josh?
You guys really have a way of getting me excited to build commanders I wouldn't have considered otherwise. Vaevictis as a commander for Crucible / Titania / Gitrog shenanigans? That is exciting as all hell.
I really like how Jumbo and Josh disagree on a lot of the cards. I generally agreed with Josh more, but hearing them hash it out is both entertaining and helps the viewer understand the card's upsides and downsides.
Not gonna lie, I was very worried when Jimmy announced he was leaving for awhile but having jumbo step in makes me very happy and excited for the future episodes
I think he's doing a great job, and I enjoyed seeing him as a guest before, so seeing him more is always a good time
I'm ... so ... excited. I'm brewing some awesome videos.
Nice, I am excited!
Definitely !
florencemachine2010 agreed! Couldn't be a better replacement/sub. Love Jumbo Commander.
DJ was a great choice. He's always really respectful when responding to comments and makes great deck techs
Don't pigeon-hole me! I can be a comment section edge-lord!
... I was going to keep going but I can't even fake it properly, thanks for the kind words Rob
This is the nicest a community has ever treated a guest host.
Hi Josh and DJ, and Jimmy of course, you guys are doing such a great job to maintain this community! Really hope the best to Wedge and your guys' channels
Love having DJ on the show. Jimmy and Josh are the best but hearing someone on the show mention the fun factor of cards and playability in non-conventional decks is awesome! Can’t wait for more.
I love being on the show. I'll never be able to recreate the awesomeness that is Jimmy but I'll bring my own style and hopefully people will enjoy it.
I for one am psyched to have DJ lending a bit more of a "flavor matters" viewpoint to the discussion. I love Josh, but he can tend to steamroll over anything that doesnt fit his fully-tuned philosophy. Sometimes I don't care if a card will be the most powerful thing in a set, but if it has incredible flavor, or could make for a fun interaction, it still has some value to me. We're not all trying to win 50% of our games, Josh. The discussion about Ajani was a good example. Lots of us don't care that a cat deck isn't "Tier 1," it's a cat deck! It's still fun! So to have Josh constantly write off everything that isn't a Top 10 card gets old fast. I'm glad DJ was around to stick up for the more casual players like myself who think Lena, Ajani, Selfless Spirit, and similar are fun to run. Keep it up DJ, somebody has to stick up for us casuals!
Overall it was a fun episode, but it's less fun with the constant "yeah, but that's bad, yeah, but that's not viable" every 3 minutes. Embrace the jank a little more, Josh! We appreciate the power evaluations but let other people have opinions about what makes for a fun commander experience: it's not always straight power level. It clearly matters most to you, but that doesn't mean it has to be the final word on the matter every time ;)
18:39 you say there is nothing special about the planeswalker side of bolas. his + gives card advantage, Blue. His -3 is basically damage removal and a reference to him killling a leviathan (a 10/10 creature), Red. the -4 is necromancy, and him being powerful enough to resurrect a planeswalker. finally his Alt is a reference to his touch which is lethal and causes insanity and ie losing you mind which in magic mechanics is milling/losing your deck but Bolas is prideful/arrogant and likes to make his victims reflect before they die, thats the flavor behind having one card left which gives your opponent one last turn.
David Michael You sir deserve a cookie.
I'm so glad you are here to add this FLAVOR that I cannot. Cheers.
Flavor yes but I think they were talking about the the power only. From the point of Commander niether they nor me would risk to flip it as he is strong as is, and none of his abilities is needed desperatly in a Commander deck of grixis colors.
David Michael -4 may be a reference to Lilliana and their current contract
David Michael same with chromium, as in the lore, he came to bolas and ugin as a human, and then transformed into a dragon again.
This was a great episode.
Sometimes, because Josh and Jimmy just agree with each other all the time, no other avenues are explored.
There were some great back and forths between DJ and Josh in this episode because they don't seem to agree on everything. I really liked this aspect. The friction of ideas was super refreshing.
GG
I am seriously getting the chills when I hear examples of how the medical care system is over there. Here, a mishap like Wedge's would set us back maybe, $1k, procedures, hospital stay with rehab included.
It would be the same here with health insurance. Bad choice not to have it.
@@GoodnotGreat88 Even with health insurance, the insurance companies historically have try everything to wiggle out of paying for anything because it hurts their profit. Honestly HealthCare should not be business, but a basic human need and right.
Wow, 2:24 hours of the command zone, you guys have overextendend this one, don't know if it was on purpose, but thank you so much!
Pedro Rios Bustamante you could say it's a Jumbo Commander review
Pedro Rios Bustamante set preview man theyre all this length roughly, lots of ca4ds to talk about 😂😂
TARDIS915 bah dum tiss!
At times I got worried that it was going too long ... then we got to another m19 card, my vision blurred, I entered a fugue state, and then rambled on even more about magic cards.
I like the video length too.
Have kinda been falling off the Command Zone lately 'cause it feels like Josh and Jimmy have been getting a little too narrow (for me!) about what makes good commander play, cards, etc. Having DJ on to advocate for a wider range of cards and strategies is a much needed breath of fresh air!
Max Meyer I completely agree, Josh and Jimmy can be so stifling and opinionated
And they agree on everything, having a diversity of perspectives is awesome. Now I wanna see a set review with Cassius!
Yet I'm still perplexed by their take on Sarkhan. Dragon Hoard requires you play dragons to draw cards, while Sarkhan immediately rummages to get you cards.
They've definitely gotten a lot more spikey as the show has gone on
It seems like the bar for a planeswalker is just higher, like it needs to be really good for them to want to play it. Josh especially doesn't seem too high on Planeswalkers in general
DJ is a great co-host, he brings a lot of positive energy and enthusiasm.
Glad to see a collaboration. I'm a big fan of jumbocommander's channel. Command zone peeps really cares about the community, and that's why, I believe, you guys reflect the best parts of Magic. Thank you.
I feel like jumbo helps add balance to the conversation since he tries to look for even weird bad brews for all the cards while JLK is the more tuned side. Not that’s a bad thing, but rather a nice balance.
I second that. DJ adds a more quirky side to deck ideas and card interactions that I'd love to see more often on the podcast.
Wow, DJ is one of my favorite deck builders. During the control command zone episode, I really thought he really brought a lot to the show.
DJ did a good job trying to balance out Josh Lee Kwai's dismissiveness.
JZjosh2468 Totally agree. It's nice to see a different perspective for a change.
I also love that they disagree more!!!! Having a bit of argument makes for amazing conversations and analyzation!
I agree. Conversely, the general stance-defending of last week was enough to make me close the tab early.
Except it starts to get annoying when it's every other sentence, like it starts to sound like Josh just always has to prove himself as the better player and like his viewpoint is more important
"We've got a legendary bear, and it cares..." It's a care-bear!
that should be the nickname for that card on LRR's next nicknames episode
I'm suuuuuuuuper happy they reprinted Colossal Dreadmaw for this set. It needed a reprint.
Darby McKilkannoncaid Can't believe they didn't reprint Raptor Companion though
A crime against humanity.
Darby McKilkannoncaid it really is, shame you can't have all the best cards in a set.
The real reprint winner is Giant Spider! He even got new art in the Global Series.
I'm liking the slightly more antagonistic relationship between the two of you. DJ has a different playgroup, different sensibilities, and so brings a different perspective to the table. I don't think I could imagine either Jimmy or Josh responding to the other with "How DARE you?"
Also, I am stoked for Vivian Reid. She is simply a green planeswalker who does green things. It offers an additional "naturalize" effect that has the possibility of being repeatable. The card selection option for her + is a good thing, and also repeatable, and if you get her emblem (admittedly is it an "if") you get effectively a slightly weakened overrun perpetually. Natualize, ensuring land drops/ searching out creatures, and overrun are all green abilities that go in almost every green deck. I'm happy with her.
There's also this amusing coincidence: www.imdb.com/name/nm4208567/?ref_=nv_sr_1
DJ is awesome! He should be invited to game knights!
jack gophanes I agree! Love seeing him on the show
Definitely sending prayers for Wedge. I hope to send a few bucks too after payday. It is so heartwarming to see this community take care of each other like it does. You guys, the proff, the LRR crew, MTAcast, Wedge... all have a genuine respect and care for each other. Its awesome to see. Thank you for that.
Absolutely love having DJ on the show!
Great episode! Awesome to see Jumbo. Latley the show has been sounding very hive mind. I need to hear about all the bad possibilities a card has sometimes and Jumbo hits every note. Great show.
As soon as you announced someone would be subbing in for Jimmy, I thought "Oh, I hope it's DJ."
Command Zone: granting wishes since 2015
Seeing Josh and DJ in this podcast is like seeing an optimist and realist debating about new cards in commander.
DJ: yay, new card. We can do this, this and this.
Josh: No, there are still, this and that. It's not good enough.
Result: 2,5 hour review.
Who want DJ on a game knight ?? I know I do !!!
I enjoy listening to you talking about Craig, knowing that he will hear that footage later, having to edit it.
for real, how do you have a guest host but not link his channel in the description?
Cool to hear that Josh came back to the game at the same time I started! I have found memories of Innistrad block, but memories of M14 really have stuck with me as well. I remember drafting a GW aggressive deck that got my second place in a draft, which was incredible as a 13 year old new to the game.
yeah, those medical bills can be backbreaking...……..
Too soon. Take that upvote.
I tooo have back problems, so this joke made me crack...
Upvote for you.
I want to be mad at you, but I just can't
Holy moly the pun
Son of a biscuit!
I can just agree with a lot of people here, that it is really nice that DJ brings a bit more diversity to the discussion. Many cards might not be played in competetive decks or spiky decks, but they can still be very fun. And in my playgroup the decks aren't that strong and are sometimes more build around flavor and like DJ said, some cards can really add to that.
So thank you for that DJ, it's nice having you on the show :)
“Who uses Endless One?!”
You Josh, you totally used it in your Rishkar deck on the early episodes of GK. Secret Strat of calling cards bad?
If they hold up swords for when you cast Chromium, then just discard a card after you cast him in response to their spell. Still works. Also Sunclenser only removes counter from your opponents so if you feel like removing you opponent's poison counters then I guess you could do that if you felt like it.
I just started playing magic because of this channel
Jesse Perez I started playing it a little before I found this channel, but it definatley makes it even more fun to be here.
one thing I want to say about any kind of heavy dice: they look nice and it makes a lot of fun to roll them, BUT they also make nice dents in your cards... if you have several 1000 dollar on the table, please use small dice made out of wood or plastic.
“You’re comparing it to Narset...? Narset’s great!” I died
Vaevictis' name reminds me how Jin Gitaxias was supposed to be "Augur of the Core" but they had to shorten it to "Core Augur" because there wasn't enough space on the card due to the mana symbols
Tbh, the best mtg channel out there. LOVE YOU GUYS keep up the good work ❤️
ALSO ARCADES RULES
I'm most excited for Psychic Corrosion. Mill doesn't have a lot of engine cards for commander, and the archetype definitely needs more support. My Lazav mill deck wins it's share at around %25 but it really fizzles when it doesn't go off. More pieces are what it needs.
Get health insurance people. It might seem like a waste of money but in an emergency 6K is much easier to pay than 100k+. Seen too many people get ruined financially because of this.
Verd254 there are plenty of people who go bankrupt due to medical bills despite having medical insurance. Medical insurance isn’t enough. I wish it were, but frankly our system for paying for healthcare is the thing that has to change.
Right, by making other people pay for it.
man i´m so glad to live in germany, where life insurance is government funded
Meaning other people pay for it. Do you mean health insurance?
"Making other people pay for it" is how all insurance works.
Love what you guys are doing for Wedge. The Magic community can really be a wonderful thing.
DJ was a great choice. I appreciated someone who was willing to see some jank and decks that people make just for fun. Josh seems to always talk about how you should have decks at various power levels so you can play in any meta, but is then unwilling to consider less optimal versions of cards for decks, or simply cards that people want to play. Some people love cats so they're going to play Ajani, he does all the things a casual cat deck would want, it pumps up creatures, recurs cheap cats and makes cats with his ultimate. It seems like a good fit, would you include it in a tuned Arahbo 1v1 deck? Absolutely not. But most people aren't going to build a tuned Arahbo deck.
I thought Core Sets took place on Shandalar? Not exclusively, but the Garruk / Liliana started there. That’s where the Chain Veil is from
I was just watching DJ's Vaevictus deck tech! What a coincidence :p
Haha! Same!
Aww, man -- I'm so happy to have DJ here, balancing the Izzet with some Orzhov.
DJ WOOO!!!!! Great guest commentator!
Kudos for adding DJ to the lineup! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
"Have we seen an Esper Voltron Commander before?" Lmao. Zur the enchanter.
Happy to see Jumbo on, he always does quality stuff. Also super excited to see Sean Plott on Command Zone!
It is still cold and damp. Very little light. It is now 6 videos since the the last game knights and my hunger starts to consume me.
As Josh tweets that Game Knights is available to Patrons you know that the video is coming soon ... but when? The cold sinks in deeper just knowing that other people are warmed by the production quality of top-notch magic gameplay. The icy resentment grows for a moment ... but you hold on ... for ... one .... more .... day.
I’m excited to watch all of this because 2+ hours of you dudes talking is life
When is that guy who won the audition gonna play with you guys and we get to see it?
We're working with his schedule - we have a lot of episodes planned throughout the year so it's not as easy as "fly on over and film!" - so you should expect to see it by the end of this year, but there are no guarantees because scheduling can often throw things off.
DJ is such a nice Guy, glad hes on this Channel more often
I tried the eclipse sleeves and have been disappointed. I sleeved up my standard deck and 3 weeks the sleeves where filthy. I take care of my sleeves, the previous set of old hyper mattes had been on for over year, not sure about eclipse sleeves.
Awesome Content as always. Love the Team up with Jumbo Commander. Hope you guys have him more and on Game Knights.
Hope Wedge stays well! The GoFundMe is going to blow up after this video, I guarantee it!
We hope so!
It will for sure, I donated for Wedge's health care bills despite having never paid for my own healthcare because lolcanadian.
For Liliana's contract to be good you just need a couple cards like
Arcane Adaptation &
Conspiracy. Get some cards with morphling and you're golden
Hey Josh you don't get to complain about blood moon then say red is bad and play capsize. Let everyone shut down the game with the tools they have.
You guys have a very different meta from me. Whenever I play, planeswalkers survive unless they’re Karn, Ugin or Bolas. Those three die really soon but Nissa Worldwaker or Jace Beleren type cards(non threatening) survive to ultimates sometimes
I love dj's voice ffs.
OOM- 32 When I saw DJ, I was like "who is that... I know that voice." It seemed obvious when I was told though. +1 on the voice.
Jumbo commander is the man, command zone has the best gameplay but jumbos got the best deck techs
8:46 "I love corsets, I'm a huge fan of corsets" JLK is fond of elegant lingerie, now that's official xD
Well my condolences to wedge from spain, my dad had an operation on his spine two months ago and it went perfectly hope it goes well for wedge too, although we didn't pay anything since Spain like most of the western world has free healthcare.
Fraying Omnipotence really good with my Wound Reflection now >:-)
Jumbo Commander was great step in for Jimmy! Would love to see him more! You guys worked well together!
Apex of Power could be good in Neheb, the Eternal.
The Ironcast Gamer Soo true!!
yep, feel like one more wheel when you combo off
That's a great fit. Thanks!
Oh my god, I did not think you would reply! Thanks so much, this made my day.
Great job Jumbo appreciate and thoroughly enjoyed you filling in for Jimmy
I sense a game knights with elder dragons
My personal favorite thing to do with Asmadi is to take control of an enemies permanent until the end of the turn, then I sacrifice the permanent I stole using Asmadi
8:35
I always look for this comment in every podcast.
2:24:45
Throttlesky bahaha
UndercoverSeal bahaha
UndercoverSeal that is going to mess with some people
What a perfect sub DJ makes. And not to mention a 2hr show. Miss those days
I'm just hyped for the new elder dragons!
I'm skeptical about new hosts on established brands but the banter between you two was surprisingly good!
I actually wouldn't mind if DJ became a permanent fixture on the show. JumboCommander is one of my favorite channels on youtube.
IIRC, if an equipped and/or enchanted creature loses all abilities, then they lose any abilities the equipment and/or enchantments give them. So you would have to voltron Chromium up after you made him an invisible stalker if you want to swing in with him as one. Specific rule about it is 613.8
When you said substitute teacher I was hoping for the professor
Aw man, now I'm disappointed that I wasn't the professor ;)
Why? So he can complain the whole episode?
I couldn't be bothered to watch profs stuff lately, I'm glad they got DJ in, he a fantastic fit
Oh jeez I flipped out when I saw DJ again! This is gonna be a gooood episode!
jumbo did a good job.
Thanks, Josh is a pro and makes it easy to follow his lead.
I donated just to help Wedge...I don't want any prize :) This is what community is about. Praying for you, Wedge!
Re: the setting of core sets - Core Sets used to ALL be set on Dominaria, until Time Spiral made it a post-apocalyptic setting rather than the traditional, generic Magic setting. Starting with M10 they move to be set on Shandalar, a much more miscellaneous 'mana-rich' plane. Magic Origins is the only core set until now not set on either Dominaria or Shandalaar (and even it had Liliana's storyline which began on Dominaria). Moving forward it looks like they'll be being even more flexible with the core settings to allow for reprints and minor storytelling in between the main sets.
Incorrect. Core sets prior to M10 had no defined setting. It just so happens that Core sets had lots of Dominaria cards because Dominaria is where most of early Magic took place. M10 is the first Core set to have new cards, as Core sets used to be exclusively reprints, so the setting wasn't really relevant. 8th and 9th editions had stuff like Aladdin's Ring, Peach Garden Oath, Counsel of the Soratomi, and Consume Spirit, all from planes that aren't Dominaria.
In addition to what Mordalon has said, M10 through M12 all had Llanowar Elves; another reason they could not exclusively take place on Shandalar.
Elvish Mystic was introduced as a more plane-neutral alternative for M14, so it's kinda funny how it only made it into two core sets before WotC phased out 1-drop mana dorks (until Llanowar Elves returned for Dominaria).
Also, M15 was very clearly all over the place. It foreshadowed the return to both Zendikar (with Ob Nixilis, Unshackled) and Innistrad (with Avacyn, Guardian Angel), contained a rare dual land cycle that took place on Dominaria, had a bunch of new Slivers from Shandalar, reprinted the Darksteel Citadel from Mirrodin, and had the 6-card "Soul of" Avatar cycle representing various planes.
Guys, you are the best! It was really disheartening for me to see so many people in community not willing to take care of their own and help by as little as just giving a signal boost but instead judge (for realz, people? For realz?). Thank you Commandzone for doing what you do and being the way you are, always decent and inspiring.
DJ? DJ...who's DJ?
*hears voice*
DJ!!!!!!
Wow, I kinda liked Vaevictus Asmadi before... but you guys have made me love it! The tokens as sac fodder, running a lands matter theme and cards that benefit from you saccing lands, plus lots of landfall for when you hit those lands, and then Primal Surge for funsies... this deck seems so awesome now! Not to mention the added bonus that your commander is removal on a stick.
Wow Jumbo on the big screen. Or is it Jimmy in disguise?
This may be a bit to late, but a quick FYI from a guy that works in the insurance industry. Medical bills can be negotiated. It is fully possible that Wedge can use a portion of what is earned from the Go Fund Me campaign and offer X as a write off to the hospital. They are very likely to accept that amount and move on. The physical therapist is likely the same.
Awesome guest choice!
Importantly with chromium is that you ideally want to equip/aura it up after you've discarded to make it unblockable/hexproof because it loses all abilities. So play it with sigarda's aid type abilities, puresteel paladin etc
Josh, no offense, but a lot of the you are saying (like voltron decks and indestructible being not good against wraths) seems very specific to your playgroup and not the general truth
I literally just got done playing a ton of Commander over the course of 4 days, in another state against a bunch of people I've never met before who were from all over the country/world (which is something I've done on many occasions, I might add) and I stand by my opinions. -JLK
I understand this, but at the same time, big events like GP Vegas tend to attract the spikier crowd. Commander as a format is great for when you don't have a lot of time to play magic, and it's ability to play well and play with basically anybody is a reason the format is one of the most popular. People who can make it out to GPs and large scale magic events are not always the same as those who are sort of stuck where they are/can't make it out to GPs for work/are more casual or infrequent players/can't afford to travel for a GP.
At higher levels of play I think you are definitely right that you can't rely on those kinds of effects, but I don't think it's worth being so dissmissive simply because there are better options (those options might be expensive/inaccessible for some players). I think it was just a little bit off-putting hearing you and Jimmy in recent episodes being so negative about cards that weren't as powerful. I don't disagree with your assessments of the cards, in fact I think you are one of the most consistently accurate review sources I listen to. I'm not asking you to lie or fake excitement for unexciting cards, but I think it would be nice to hear some talk about cards as budget options or for silly/fun factor. Because as a viewing experience, it isn't very enjoyable to hear lots of cool cards get bashed and obviously powerful cards praised.
At the end of the day, I love the Command Zone, and I think you guys do great work on Game Knights, but once you've been playing for a while, it can be easy to forget the more casual crowd of the game. I imagine it would be especially easy for you, as you spend a lot of time working on videos, recording podcasts, producing content for, and interacting with the community of Magic. Anyways, I know I'm just another face on the internet, and I'm sorry if anything in my comment upset you in any way. If you're reading this, I hope you have a good rest of the evening.
I'm not upset, I just disagree. Have you played for-fun EDH at a GP before? It's not what you seem to think. I played multiple games against kids age 10-12. I've played against people with $50 budget decks and themes like "all white-bordered cards" or "all misprints". If you believe all the games are just "the spikier crowd" well, that has not been my experience. Far from it.
And to your other point: I feel it's my job to evaluate the power level of a card, especially in set reviews. People don't need me to tell them if it's "fun" or not. They can analyze that for themselves. In fact, they SHOULD decide that for themselves because every person's idea of fun is unique to them. My opinion on how silly something is just isn't that useful to the average viewer. I'm not saying I'll never comment on that aspect, I'm just saying that's not likely to be my main emphasis very often. -JLK
In all fairness, though I have played a lot of commander, I've only ever done it at a large event once (and winning with a precon of all things), and in small groups everywhere else. My experiences recently are probably skewed becuse the meta at my store is a lot of spikier stuff like Locust God and Gattock Teeg. It occured to me that what is fun can be different depending on who the players are, but I didn't think of the personalization aspect of EDH. Thank you for the insightful response!
I'm probably just thinking my playgroup is the general truth
Can't believe you two talked down Chromium and Palladia-Mors. Both would make fantastic voltron commanders, especially Palladia-Mors. Her second ability of 'hexproof until she deals damage' is -SO- easily abusable in Naya colors too.
I sort of disagree with your opinion on the new Liliana, with regards to Gisa and Geralf being way better. Liliana does what planeswalkers do best and is versatile, as all her abilities actually matter. In addition, her minus 3 is screaming for combo fodder. The minus 3 goes infinite with Phyrexian Altar and a 1-drop, as opposed to Gravecrawler only, making her excellent in Grimgrin decks. Any self-mill deck, such as Sidisi, Brood Tyrant (which is what I play), LOVES this card, and this card is like triple-duty in that deck, as all 3 functions do relevant things. In self-mill, again with Phyrexian Altar (or Ashnod's Altar+filter), this goes infinite with Stitcher's Supplier- if you have an Eldrazi titan or Gaea's Blessing in your maindeck, you go actual infinite. Given any sort of trigger abuse, this is insta-win. Also, Liliana's Contract + Arcane Adaption/changelings = Profit
the new Liliana literally turns all my creatures in my Muldrotha deck into a gravecrawler when I have my combo out.
I am so glad you immediately address Goreclaw's lack of bear synergy in its review.
Yet it's easy to see why it is the way it is.
I find Josh to be a bit pessimistic about cards. if Ajani would work well in a cats deck there's no need to laugh about the idea and shut it down. Magic is about having fun and testing interesting brews as much as it is playing the obviously powerful cards
He seems overly competitive, not really getting the point of fun cards, or only considering cards in a very narrow application, like with the clone aura.
I feel like no one is really listening to a set review to hear me say "This card could be fun." They already know if they think a card would be fun. They don't need me to tell them that. I'm here to give my opinion on "Is this card good?" -JLK
The Command Zone while that may be true, i guess some of us would appretiate the occasional "it's not good, but at least seems fun" .
Sometimes people just don't know you guys enough to remember you're not the Spike-y type.
I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve personally always enjoyed playing some fun cards that aren’t always ‘good’ cards so that’s something I also look for in a set. I enjoy the podcast regardless
That is why i watch Game Knights, as you always see there's a lot of flavor in the decks played.
I have an Ezuri elf tribal, but the phyrexian blue/green, not the mono green one, that my friends call "it's Spike-y"; yet all it does is play elves from all planes, "elect" (pump) the one i want to sit on Tarkir's Dragon Throne to command my horde, and squish the multiverse under the elven reign. No infect, no Craterhoof, only 2 creatures aren't elves (the insect that bounces elves, and a mage of the hours in case someone wants to combo), but always my go-to plan is overwhelm and conquer.
I love the kind of team up with jumbo commander! I hope you guys do a lot of team up stuff
I love Jumbo!
Dude, i love DJ!!! So happy we're going to see more of him here.
Love the podcast and videos but when did Josh turn into such a " my opinion is better than your opinion host "?? I want to hear his opinion on cards and gameplay but I don't want to listen to him telling his co host why his opinion on cards is better than there's . Dial it back a little josh?
You guys really have a way of getting me excited to build commanders I wouldn't have considered otherwise. Vaevictis as a commander for Crucible / Titania / Gitrog shenanigans? That is exciting as all hell.