this game has been a bridge that let me bring my fiancée in on tcgs for the first time, and she's having a great time with it. We've already met friends through it! Those connections are what matters
Same! Got my girlfriend who used to look at me side eyed with MTG is now asking to play Sealed Deck 😂 whenever I get a Lorcana box she picks 6 packs and builds a deck
I am a MTG and Pokemon player and collector. Sadly since becoming a Dad my time in those TCGs have reduced...but now Lorcana has changed that! My kids 2 and 4 LOVE going through the binders and finding their fav characters. It's the best designed TCG we have had for a long time. Looking forward to them being old enough so I can teach them how to play. I hope the game can survive the test of time, as these characters have proven to be able to do.
I'm amazed that anyone pre-orders Lorcana on TCGplayer. I would never I haven't bought any sealed product from TCGplayer for any TCG. Singles after released once prices settle is the only time I feel most people buy on TCGPlayer. All prices before release especially on singles are extremely inflated. My 9 year old son and I enjoy Lorcana and I will be at DLC Las Vegas in a few weeks. I hope Lorcana continues to grow. I have 1 sealed case of the First Chapter as I do believe long term it will have value.
I havnt played a tcg seriously for like 15 years and the idea of trying to get into magic or other tcgs 15-20+ years old feels overwhelming i recently gotten into lorcana and i am glad i did its easy barrier to entry yet have enough depth to be competitive has me diving in head first also being able to get my kids/wife into it has been a plus.
Magic is easy enough to get into because after you learn the basic rules (which have remained essentially the same for the last 15 or so years), everything else becomes easy, and if you're just wanting to play and not learn the lore, then you won't have to really worry about too much info.
@@jish55 that is the mentality of an experienced player. Magic is definitely not easy to get into, so much more complicated compared to newer TCGs or board/card games
@@Chris3s Yeah this 100% and everytime ive tried to get into magic been pretty much turned off by people like this who feel their game is so simple(its not from complete newbie pov) like i said so many years since ive ever played a TCG. Lorcana has been the only community on a more mass scale i dont feel like im getting shit on for asking things.
Before lorcana I played magic and pokemon but I switched to lorcana as my main game and I've never had as big of a social life until now 😂 I've taken road trips with the people I play with and we've all hung out outside of playing and honestly this game has changed my life
This game is really just Kaijudo with a Disney skin on it, they have the same designer after all. But, the iconic characters and the fairly accessible gameplay make it very easy for kids and people unfamiliar with TCGs to get into. I've noticed Lorcana has almost entirely replaced all the Yugioh product at the local big retailers in my area over the last few months, and it's selling way better than Yugioh has in the last 10 years among kids aged 8-13. As a game, it's not something I would play, but Lorcana has clearly identified and positioned itself to be the 2nd most popular TCG with kids behind Pokemon in the US.
I spend enough time at card shops to see a constant stream of Pokemon card buyers who admit they barely (if at all) know how to play the game. They just collect the characters. Disney has a larger portfolio of characters and die hard fans just the same. So long as they can dust off the early growing pains and stabilize, I agree with your sentiment completely. Between a solid game system and the non player collectors, they have some long term potential.
Maybe and I don’t know. Pokemon is completely different and managers at the top have proven time and time again their business acumen and genuine dedication for their brand. Lorcana isn’t owned by Disney but rather an unaffiliated board game company (Ravensburger). Price ares higher because of this but more importantly, if it starts to not to do well, Disney is not bailing it out. Bob Iger will this die in a heartbeat if it saves money. Disney is already struggling a bit with park sales because it’s so darn expensive. If this were owned by Disney and a key part of its future I would feel differently. The game is entirely on the hands of Ravensburger. Doesn’t mean they don’t be successful, it just feels they won’t be able to weather the highs and lows as much. Disney Lorcana is really Ravensburger Lorcana - licensed by Disney.
Pokemon is definitely a collectors card game but I'm not sure if people are loving Disney that much these days with their decisions lately and their push towards live action having less charm. They've got a lot less these days compared to when we grew up with it that I'm wondering the sort of staying power kids today have with it.
I would say that they have done little to no marketing so far and have only tapped into the folks who were already in the TCG space or games space. It isn’t even available where the real Disney fans are such as inside the theme parks or advertised by Disney themselves. So I think once they really get the ball rolling with parks and new films and whatnot I think it still has potential to grow exponentially into the future.
Currently down in FL vacationing with my family. Visited Disney springs today to dip our toes in before going to magic kingdom tomorrow. One shops went into had a whole lorcana stand. I looked at it and grabbed a Donald Duck playmat since we play Magic at home and I love Donald. But I did stare hard at the lorcana car packs, and here I am looking up stuff debating if I wanna some and check it out now. Soooo yea Disney is selling in there areas haha.
ima be honest tcg's shouldn't be about card value or anything. should be about how fun the game is sadly everyone wants the game to pay off there rent.
I love lorcana, and my daughter that’s 2 and a half loves looking at the cards and knowing every single character she can name. it’s that nostalgia factor that got me involved. Lorcana’s been around for a year and enchanted prices and “hit” cards for players aren’t anywhere near hitting 0. organized play events are selling out in 3min for 2000 players. Being new to the TCG space. I think those are pretty good numbers. but I get that it needs to stand the test of time. and sell well in LGS stores continually.
I been playing TCG's for a while now. I played Pokemon, Yu-Gi-OH, MTG, and now Star Wars Unlimited and Lorcana. I have played and collected Lorcana since the First Chapter. As far as as the TCG is concerned, its simple and complex at the same time which is amazing since everyone can get into this lovely card game, beautiful car, fun characters, and it's Disney. Brings out the kid in everyone. Honestly, the community around Lorcana is some of the nicest and friendliest
Ever since the game came out I've gotten a box per set. The way Yu-Gi-Oh is going it would not surprise me if a new 3rd tcg rise up. Whether it's one piece, dbs, lorcana I'm sure something will replace it unless Konami goes into a massive overhaul.
I would say it’s going to be either Lorcana or OP I see alot more yugioh players coming to Lorcana but that could be my local area. One Piece there’s only like 3/4 shops that I know of that have product or have events Lorcana there’s already atleast 20+.
@@beardedcat9744 from just things ive seen personally here in australia lorcana is the second most popular card game (i work in retail) its pokemon then lorcana things such like dbs and yu-gi-oh are only really sold at game stores and mtg is sold most places besides bigger retailers but its quiet expensive and prices a lot of people out i see boxes sit on shelves for months before selling
OP will never be the one. You anime guys cannot understand how limited your bubble is. It's just you guys are VERY loud and active online, and a few of you spend BIG bucks on speculation. Disney will trample OP like pre-breakfast. Not that Im a Disney fan, but c'mon.
I get it, bro. As a father, I've been playing MTG and Lorcana with my daughter (which is what she wanted to learn to play). The value you're talking about is sentimental memories. Can't put a price tag on that. But if our cards could have any money value, I'm okay with it too.
Shimmering Skies is a great high powered set with decent value in the pulls. I do think they need to tighten print runs a bit and maybe sprinkle a little more spice in the boxes for collectors. The game is great to play, I see it sticking around for a while
Yes, special alternate arts below the Enchanted rarity, 1 per box on average would be great. I'd also like the Enchanteds to be in traditional art styles and find another way to implement the set specific Enchanted arts that they are doing, maybe those could be the alt art cards. I just think it takes away from the specialness of enchanteds when they are those jank set art cards. And only characters should be enchanted. Getting a crap song enchanted as a case hit is devastating.
Lorcana is by far the best designed TCG I’ve played in a long time, the inking mechanic is so well designed for card balance as well as the biggest skill point in the game, makes it almost impossible to stall and is impossible to flood.
I mean everything disney at least survives. The old movies, kingdom hearts, disney channel, disney world, etc… disney will always be something of interest, and they will definitely be valuable in the future as long as a lot of them get destroyed, and due to kids being attracted to them even more than usual theres a good chance of that. Even if it takes 200 years, theyre gonna be worth something someday
my wife said she would not get any well after 1 pack and a few singles i got her now she is hooked. Not only that it created a new bond in something that most would say is for kids but i disagree. I 100% agree with your vid and your opinion. Thank you
Lorcana is fun, but: Draft or Sealed is not much fun for me. Since set 4 i buy only single card to improve existing decks. So i have no reason to buy a booster box.
I have 10 slappers for each set. 5 booster boxes for each set. A full numbered collection for 1-4 and Ive been slowly acquiring enchanteds. I had 3 original base set booster boxes of pokemon when they came out. My dad specifically bought one for me to keep unopened and like a dummy, I opened the 2 and like 6 months later opened the 3rd. I wont be making that same mistake in my life twice. And if they dont appreciate, my friend group and myself still love the game. If nothing else it'll be a fun night to rip some old sets with them.
I'm a magic player at first and honestly with all the dramas and to many sets coming out, me and my friends were starting to get exhausted. So I made the first move to start buying lorcana for just having this good nostalgia of pulling cards of movies I watch and grew up with. Just me making the first move made my friends and my brother do the same and honestly I dont regret it at all. The game is refreshing and fun while keeping a sense of the other tcgs around. And even my skeptic friends that didnt want no part in it watched some games with of me and others playing and got caught in the movement we started in our town. I just think instead of focusing to much about the money, if the game his truly popular to just find connection with others and enjoy what little we have in this depressing world. Im sorry for the bad English hope you enjoyed my opinion ❤
I'm enjoying Lorcana as a good casual fun family game. It make it pretty easy for my family of 5 to unplug and enjoy a pretty easy to play game for a few times a week. My kids are quite happy to play their favorite cards and are slowly power creeping their decks with more powerful cards.
really enjoyed this video since i had a similar feeling about lorcana - afterwards i pressed the subscribe button and it said exactly 10.000 subs, so congratz i guess and keep up the good content :) greetings!
it's drastically lower because First three chapters have the strongest cards for agro players. You don't get 1 ink 2 lore cards in chapter 4 and 5. Or OP locations like the Queens Castle.
I have experience with dead tcgs, many times the company prints too much, then they fall face first. So many stores order the first 3 sets, the game falls off set 4-5, most store stop ordering that game set 6, the game continues sets 7-8 with the few stores that still supports them, then dies. All those boxes go online, and the market looks something like this : Boxes upon boxes of sets 1-3 they sell them for 25$, sets 4-5 35$, set 6 retail price (because the low print begun), set 7-8 500$ (impossible to find relics basically). There are still some players playing, they feel nostalgia, they want to sets 7-8. Even though there is only 2000 world wide players still playing that dead tcg, there is only 10 sealed sets 7-8 left, prices go up. Supply and demand. Im not saying this translates for lorcana, but be wary, nothing is guranted.
I quit playing magic years ago got busy with life wanted to play FaB but hasn’t grown in my area. Finished my masters degree in May now I’ve got more time for card games again. I like lorcana but it’s just almost too simple. Started playing the Star Wars TCG it’s really good have been really surprised.
I find myself buying less and less Lorcana mostly because at the beginning you were making decks... now we go for incremental improvements, it starts to feel like standard. I'm not buying starters anymore. I got a Trove once. No need to get more. And yes, I do play it with my daughter too.
I agree with you and had a same sway with lorcana. But seeing my kids gather my bulk of lorcana and Digimon into their bags, and starting to recognize them makes me happy.
@HometownTcg yeah that's the best. Or when they know the references in the cards related to the movies and shows. My daughter calls those out when she watches wrecked Ralph.
Lorcana either needs a news banger set, to implement rotation, or to implement a banlist to encourage people to get off their current staples. I mean, most of the major decks use the same staples from the first 2 - 3 sets, leaving players little reason to continue buying product. Edit: also it’s insane how none of these comments seem to be addressing the purpose of this video lol
Just bought my second case of shimmering skies. Love it. I sell on TCGPlayer and I will say something... the release of Shimmering skies I had so many single sales I couldn't even keep up with it. So, I wonder if people realize the product will come down after the first couple of weeks, already have a lot of product and cards, and just want to buy the singles on the whole from now on.
Might be a dumb question but I just have to ask:) When do you think they will stop printing the older sets. Take for example floodborne. They have to at some point stop printing, but when in youre opinion might that be?:) good vid btw👯
I don't think they've reprinted either since early 2024. But they haven't announced that they will never reprint it, but at the same time they said they would let us know if they reprint, and they haven't said anything about that either and no new recent print dates have come out on any product.
I agree and have been doing the same all year. Also Ilumineer's Troves are the rarest product SKU in all sets. Value of packs alone will not make sense but as merely a collectors item they will stay highly desirable IMO.
I have not decided if I want to fully get on the Lorcana train yet. I was really, REALLY, R-E-A-L-L-Y, put off by the unavailability and scalper pricing of the 1st Chapter and Rise of the Floodborn to the point of I never got any cards from those sets at all. I did buy a few starter decks from Shimmering Skies and Ursala's Return as well as a few boosters from Inklands, but I'm less $100 into the game and I don't know anybody actually playing it. I just don't know if I'm going to continue to pursue it or not yet at this point. I am not a TCG/CCG fan in general because of the bottomless money pit they can become, I got out of MTG in the mid '90s because I could already see that it was becoming VERY expensive, and quite frankly I'd rather buy a hobby board game and stick it on the shelf instead.
My girl did the exact same thing. He smiled and joy of doing cards exact the same..gold mined.i told my girl same thing..love the dad vibes ❤u did the same
I randomly searched Lorcana today on RUclips and came to this video. I am from Germany, i play Yu Gi Oh and collect Pokemon for years now and today was the first time I opened the site of tcgplayer. What i want to say is, yes this video has valuable points but for example with the Gamescom in Germany taken place two weeks ago I am 100% sure the numbers look different in other countries and sites.
I play lorcana, I also collect but I haven't bought one pack of Shimerring skys, why? I don't need any of the cards, my decks work great and are very competitive with the first 4 sets, ill buy a few singles from each set moving forward to improve decks but im done with boxes
I agree if you’re not interested in the commons / uncommons or otherwise have an open outlook to building a new deck, don’t buy a box. I buy boxes when I have decks but want to build another one so based on my pulls, I let the wind take me in that direction to whatever I can build
Same if you’ve been playing since set 1 or two you have all the cards you need to build competitive decks of any color combo . Singles are it for me . I’ll buy six packs for sealed but that’s it
Here’s my issue as a millennial growing up in the 90’s and why I feel like Lorcana will be capped lower than other popular TCGs. If we compare Pokemon to Lorcana, Lorcana is Disney but Pokemon is Pokemon (yes it’s owned by three companies, Nintendo being the most known) but it is its own brand in many ways. Lorcana will always just be Disney. I don’t see it as a brand. If Lorcana had its own characters separate from the common Disney characters I think (though higher risk) it would perform better in the long run. More thoughts on that… In addition, the excitement about Pokemon is the release of new generations with new packs, a new video game and new show with the new generation. Lorcana will be launching things that have already existed that people have to wait and hope for. One reason why Shimmering Skies flopped is probably related to Wreck it Ralph not being the most ideal to launch this early. However, Big Hero 6 might be better. On this note, what if Lorcana goes the direction of Marvel and Star Wars and the demand for classic Disney characters falls away? I think there are a lot of questions but I don’t think it will fail. I just don’t see it reaching the likes of other popular TCGs even 10-20 years from now. How’s Lorcana going to branch out from just a card game but establish itself as its own brand that is a branch of Disney?
I think the game will survive but....... unlike pokemon, magic, yugioh etc many people are stockpiling sealed product which was definitely not the case in the 90s-00s. Average people simply have more capital whether cash or access to credit not to mention knowledge based on predecessor tcgs to hold sealed product. Looks like in 20 years there will be a bunch of sealed/graded product to not warrant high values. Just my opinion. (I'm sitting on a case of each set indefinitely)
I was happy with the announcement because it keeps scalpers away and that they want this game to stay kid friendly. This game is really fun and a great way to get none tcg players in. The tcg landscape as a whole, will grow from lorcana.
I mean there’s stacks and stack of product just sitting in shops and big box stores. I think Lorcana really has grabbed everyone it can. The game also isn’t evolving.
Y’all are gonna take a nap and sleep on the game before it even gets interesting. The game description describes part of the game play is our imagination. If you think for a second they won’t expand the games mode both relaxed and competitive then keep sleeping. This game has potential to actually go somewhere and its players like me that will have to bring what I’m saying into fruition 😅❤
My biggest problem with the TCG is the barrier to entry, in terms of getting a deck that can compete in a normal LGS night. It can cost hundreds just for a few play sets of core singles 💀. Having the same card in multiple rarities (like pokemon TCG) would most likely help at least a little bit
But this is true for most TCGs that aren’t Pokémon. Magic and YGO decks are far more expensive to be competitive, many Lorcana players are usually very willing to trade and help you build for much cheaper than just buying TCG singles
Before at my LGS people played competitive decks starting out, but as time has gone on and more available cards come out, people have been making less competitive theme decks to mess around with until tournament time. Someone the other day made a Flotsam Jetsam deck and another did a Mickey and friends only deck.
This game is the cheapest TCG out of the big ones. The most expensive deck will run you close to $400 and that’s if you’re heavily invested into that color combination you don’t need to play that. Like others in here are saying you can build something under $100 and do decent with it at locals or even at Set Champs. I play red purple which is a meta deck and I got everything for about $200 which is fairly cheap when it comes to tcg standards. Yugioh you need playsets of cards that are $50+ each.
The major issue with Lorcana is that unlike other tcgs that can create new cards every set, Lorcana has to rely heavily on ip, something that isn't sustainable. You can only make so many Mickey, Belle, Elsa, Hercules, etc. cards before they all just appear the same and become void of any differences to make them valuable in their own right. Only way for Lorcana's survival is to start moving towards implementing non ip characters so that it can stand a chance of surviving longer than 5 years.
Thanks for showing us why you don't design games lmao or even play apparently lmao mtg, pokemon, one piece all do exactly what you said lorcana can't do 😂😂😂
Don't forget there going a mirrorverse route so there could be so many different variations as well as bring in different gimmicks it's not like they'd shy away from cross overs either so it's possible they could bring in marvels big hero 6 so many different routes they could take from here
Nah. I’ve built 2 decks and one of them has 6 cards from set 6 and the other has 2. It hardly changed anything for me. Pete uncommon is probably the best card from the set tbh 😂
Shimmering Isles isn’t available locally where I live so I have to buy it online. I imagine local stores will catch up with stock soon but it definitely effects momentum here…
Yeah for sure - they were making the boxes cost so much and really hard to come by in recent sets - hopefully the prices of everything can come down a bit without flippers and scalpers
I'm only 10 seconds into this video and the fact that I'm surrounded by nothing but magic the gathering in the background makes me think this comes from a bias, and there's a reason why he chose to make it that way instead of a flat background, it's almost as if it was as the coast is tapping him on the shoulder saying that hey they're getting hyped and we need y'all to calm down
If they don’t rush out a digital game it’s over they will never recover. Magic and Yugioh got away with it for years because of when they released but there is no way Lorcana can survive off collectors alone.
Pixelborn was actually very damaging to the game. Yes it's nice to play it for free. But that's the problem, there were a lot of people who only played on Pixelborn and immediately left when they could no longer play it for free online.
only first set has any speculative value or nostalgia, it was heavily frontloaded with bomb legendaries. You can get an entire floodborn set for about $60 with only Beast and Mim Fox being the only cards above $4. Inklands is cheaper now ursula and diablo came down . Overall, I don't see any trend that will lead me to believe anything other than first chapter will ever hold any future weight.
@HometownTcg I met two new couples in open play at the LGS. Just started playing. One of the husbands plays Magic and now Lorcana because his wife plays. See how that happened. Wife plays he plays. Men are like puppy dogs. Easily walked and trained. I'm a guy just older and chuckle every time I see it. Women are amazing.
@@lerak8452 not everything is about being a dog or trained (or bottom), it is about respecting each other and spending time together. If there is communication, then both agreed to play together
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this game has been a bridge that let me bring my fiancée in on tcgs for the first time, and she's having a great time with it. We've already met friends through it! Those connections are what matters
I totally agree! My wife has played lorcana games with me and she normally can’t stand TCGs!
Same! Got my girlfriend who used to look at me side eyed with MTG is now asking to play Sealed Deck 😂 whenever I get a Lorcana box she picks 6 packs and builds a deck
Wow ! ❤
@@monkaxb1ps422 have you tried 2-pack rush with her? It's a great way to make a trove more fun
Same here haha I play almost every TCG and couldn’t get my wife to try any but she loves Lorcana
I bought Shimmering Skies and Ursula because my daughter loves Encanto. She doesn’t play the game but gets really excited with the characters.
It’s Minnie and Maui for us- I totally get it!
Musketeers and ducktales for us haha
I'm from Norway and the hype just started here. Lorcana has given me the nostalgia feeling for sure!
I am a MTG and Pokemon player and collector. Sadly since becoming a Dad my time in those TCGs have reduced...but now Lorcana has changed that! My kids 2 and 4 LOVE going through the binders and finding their fav characters. It's the best designed TCG we have had for a long time. Looking forward to them being old enough so I can teach them how to play. I hope the game can survive the test of time, as these characters have proven to be able to do.
Lorcana is the best designed TCG to come out in a very long time
It sure seems to be wildly successful!
Future dead game anyways.
It's the best designed of nothing.
@@sikssilver9698every game is a future dead game.
Whenever I see a TCG, I ask myself the question: "Is there a reason not just to play Magic instead?", and every time the answer is no.
@@sikssilver9698 too many powerful cards with not enough answers across colors
It’s weird because shimmering skies is such a good set
Shimmering Skies added some of the worst IP with Wreck it Ralph. It's been the worst for sales.
@@Dwarven_Steel_Gamesbig hero 6 next set I expect to be much more exciting. But I’m definitely biased
I'm amazed that anyone pre-orders Lorcana on TCGplayer. I would never I haven't bought any sealed product from TCGplayer for any TCG. Singles after released once prices settle is the only time I feel most people buy on TCGPlayer. All prices before release especially on singles are extremely inflated. My 9 year old son and I enjoy Lorcana and I will be at DLC Las Vegas in a few weeks. I hope Lorcana continues to grow. I have 1 sealed case of the First Chapter as I do believe long term it will have value.
You can definitely find cheaper cases and boxes on the secondary market outside of TCG Player, especially prior to release.
I havnt played a tcg seriously for like 15 years and the idea of trying to get into magic or other tcgs 15-20+ years old feels overwhelming i recently gotten into lorcana and i am glad i did its easy barrier to entry yet have enough depth to be competitive has me diving in head first also being able to get my kids/wife into it has been a plus.
Magic is easy enough to get into because after you learn the basic rules (which have remained essentially the same for the last 15 or so years), everything else becomes easy, and if you're just wanting to play and not learn the lore, then you won't have to really worry about too much info.
@@jish55 that is the mentality of an experienced player. Magic is definitely not easy to get into, so much more complicated compared to newer TCGs or board/card games
@@Chris3s Yeah this 100% and everytime ive tried to get into magic been pretty much turned off by people like this who feel their game is so simple(its not from complete newbie pov) like i said so many years since ive ever played a TCG. Lorcana has been the only community on a more mass scale i dont feel like im getting shit on for asking things.
Also with 2-3 rares per box, you don't need to open as many boxes to get all the cards as well.
Before lorcana I played magic and pokemon but I switched to lorcana as my main game and I've never had as big of a social life until now 😂 I've taken road trips with the people I play with and we've all hung out outside of playing and honestly this game has changed my life
This game is really just Kaijudo with a Disney skin on it, they have the same designer after all. But, the iconic characters and the fairly accessible gameplay make it very easy for kids and people unfamiliar with TCGs to get into. I've noticed Lorcana has almost entirely replaced all the Yugioh product at the local big retailers in my area over the last few months, and it's selling way better than Yugioh has in the last 10 years among kids aged 8-13. As a game, it's not something I would play, but Lorcana has clearly identified and positioned itself to be the 2nd most popular TCG with kids behind Pokemon in the US.
I spend enough time at card shops to see a constant stream of Pokemon card buyers who admit they barely (if at all) know how to play the game. They just collect the characters. Disney has a larger portfolio of characters and die hard fans just the same. So long as they can dust off the early growing pains and stabilize, I agree with your sentiment completely. Between a solid game system and the non player collectors, they have some long term potential.
Agreed. People buy the packs for all different reasons and imo that’s good for lorcana
Maybe and I don’t know. Pokemon is completely different and managers at the top have proven time and time again their business acumen and genuine dedication for their brand. Lorcana isn’t owned by Disney but rather an unaffiliated board game company (Ravensburger). Price ares higher because of this but more importantly, if it starts to not to do well, Disney is not bailing it out. Bob Iger will this die in a heartbeat if it saves money. Disney is already struggling a bit with park sales because it’s so darn expensive. If this were owned by Disney and a key part of its future I would feel differently. The game is entirely on the hands of Ravensburger. Doesn’t mean they don’t be successful, it just feels they won’t be able to weather the highs and lows as much. Disney Lorcana is really Ravensburger Lorcana - licensed by Disney.
Pokemon is definitely a collectors card game but I'm not sure if people are loving Disney that much these days with their decisions lately and their push towards live action having less charm. They've got a lot less these days compared to when we grew up with it that I'm wondering the sort of staying power kids today have with it.
I would say that they have done little to no marketing so far and have only tapped into the folks who were already in the TCG space or games space. It isn’t even available where the real Disney fans are such as inside the theme parks or advertised by Disney themselves. So I think once they really get the ball rolling with parks and new films and whatnot I think it still has potential to grow exponentially into the future.
It's literally in the parks and sells out regularly out the stores.
Currently down in FL vacationing with my family. Visited Disney springs today to dip our toes in before going to magic kingdom tomorrow. One shops went into had a whole lorcana stand. I looked at it and grabbed a Donald Duck playmat since we play Magic at home and I love Donald. But I did stare hard at the lorcana car packs, and here I am looking up stuff debating if I wanna some and check it out now. Soooo yea Disney is selling in there areas haha.
ima be honest tcg's shouldn't be about card value or anything. should be about how fun the game is sadly everyone wants the game to pay off there rent.
I love lorcana, and my daughter that’s 2 and a half loves looking at the cards and knowing every single character she can name.
it’s that nostalgia factor that got me involved.
Lorcana’s been around for a year and enchanted prices and “hit” cards for players aren’t anywhere near hitting 0. organized play events are selling out in 3min for 2000 players. Being new to the TCG space. I think those are pretty good numbers. but I get that it needs to stand the test of time. and sell well in LGS stores continually.
I been playing TCG's for a while now. I played Pokemon, Yu-Gi-OH, MTG, and now Star Wars Unlimited and Lorcana. I have played and collected Lorcana since the First Chapter. As far as as the TCG is concerned, its simple and complex at the same time which is amazing since everyone can get into this lovely card game, beautiful car, fun characters, and it's Disney. Brings out the kid in everyone. Honestly, the community around Lorcana is some of the nicest and friendliest
Lorcana Really feels like this generations pokemon. The kids just have so much glow in their eyes with it
Agreed.
Pokemon is this generation Pokemon
Ever since the game came out I've gotten a box per set. The way Yu-Gi-Oh is going it would not surprise me if a new 3rd tcg rise up. Whether it's one piece, dbs, lorcana I'm sure something will replace it unless Konami goes into a massive overhaul.
I would say it’s going to be either Lorcana or OP I see alot more yugioh players coming to Lorcana but that could be my local area. One Piece there’s only like 3/4 shops that I know of that have product or have events Lorcana there’s already atleast 20+.
@@beardedcat9744 from just things ive seen personally here in australia lorcana is the second most popular card game (i work in retail) its pokemon then lorcana things such like dbs and yu-gi-oh are only really sold at game stores and mtg is sold most places besides bigger retailers but its quiet expensive and prices a lot of people out i see boxes sit on shelves for months before selling
OP will never be the one. You anime guys cannot understand how limited your bubble is.
It's just you guys are VERY loud and active online, and a few of you spend BIG bucks on speculation.
Disney will trample OP like pre-breakfast.
Not that Im a Disney fan, but c'mon.
Great video. Enjoyed the analysis and the personal stories. Keep it up!
I get it, bro. As a father, I've been playing MTG and Lorcana with my daughter (which is what she wanted to learn to play). The value you're talking about is sentimental memories. Can't put a price tag on that. But if our cards could have any money value, I'm okay with it too.
Shimmering Skies is a great high powered set with decent value in the pulls. I do think they need to tighten print runs a bit and maybe sprinkle a little more spice in the boxes for collectors. The game is great to play, I see it sticking around for a while
Yes, special alternate arts below the Enchanted rarity, 1 per box on average would be great. I'd also like the Enchanteds to be in traditional art styles and find another way to implement the set specific Enchanted arts that they are doing, maybe those could be the alt art cards. I just think it takes away from the specialness of enchanteds when they are those jank set art cards. And only characters should be enchanted. Getting a crap song enchanted as a case hit is devastating.
I love the game. Lorcana is going to have to do what other TCGs have done to keep sales up: start cycling what sets are allowed in current formats.
Lorcana is by far the best designed TCG I’ve played in a long time, the inking mechanic is so well designed for card balance as well as the biggest skill point in the game, makes it almost impossible to stall and is impossible to flood.
The inking system is based off of the dragon ball super card game. Makes that game really good too. Good system.
I really like that the artwork isn’t cgi, screenshots. Hopefully stays that way
I mean everything disney at least survives. The old movies, kingdom hearts, disney channel, disney world, etc… disney will always be something of interest, and they will definitely be valuable in the future as long as a lot of them get destroyed, and due to kids being attracted to them even more than usual theres a good chance of that. Even if it takes 200 years, theyre gonna be worth something someday
Just bought some starters decks for my wife and myself. I have played yugioh TCG and MD. But is so nice to play a game like this.
my wife said she would not get any well after 1 pack and a few singles i got her now she is hooked. Not only that it created a new bond in something that most would say is for kids but i disagree. I 100% agree with your vid and your opinion. Thank you
Lorcana is fun, but: Draft or Sealed is not much fun for me. Since set 4 i buy only single card to improve existing decks. So i have no reason to buy a booster box.
I have 10 slappers for each set. 5 booster boxes for each set. A full numbered collection for 1-4 and Ive been slowly acquiring enchanteds. I had 3 original base set booster boxes of pokemon when they came out. My dad specifically bought one for me to keep unopened and like a dummy, I opened the 2 and like 6 months later opened the 3rd. I wont be making that same mistake in my life twice. And if they dont appreciate, my friend group and myself still love the game. If nothing else it'll be a fun night to rip some old sets with them.
I'm a magic player at first and honestly with all the dramas and to many sets coming out, me and my friends were starting to get exhausted. So I made the first move to start buying lorcana for just having this good nostalgia of pulling cards of movies I watch and grew up with. Just me making the first move made my friends and my brother do the same and honestly I dont regret it at all. The game is refreshing and fun while keeping a sense of the other tcgs around. And even my skeptic friends that didnt want no part in it watched some games with of me and others playing and got caught in the movement we started in our town. I just think instead of focusing to much about the money, if the game his truly popular to just find connection with others and enjoy what little we have in this depressing world. Im sorry for the bad English hope you enjoyed my opinion ❤
Were those boxes the starter decks or boxes of boosters?
I'm enjoying Lorcana as a good casual fun family game. It make it pretty easy for my family of 5 to unplug and enjoy a pretty easy to play game for a few times a week. My kids are quite happy to play their favorite cards and are slowly power creeping their decks with more powerful cards.
really enjoyed this video since i had a similar feeling about lorcana - afterwards i pressed the subscribe button and it said exactly 10.000 subs, so congratz i guess and keep up the good content :) greetings!
it's drastically lower because First three chapters have the strongest cards for agro players. You don't get 1 ink 2 lore cards in chapter 4 and 5. Or OP locations like the Queens Castle.
I have experience with dead tcgs, many times the company prints too much, then they fall face first. So many stores order the first 3 sets, the game falls off set 4-5, most store stop ordering that game set 6, the game continues sets 7-8 with the few stores that still supports them, then dies. All those boxes go online, and the market looks something like this :
Boxes upon boxes of sets 1-3 they sell them for 25$, sets 4-5 35$, set 6 retail price (because the low print begun), set 7-8 500$ (impossible to find relics basically).
There are still some players playing, they feel nostalgia, they want to sets 7-8. Even though there is only 2000 world wide players still playing that dead tcg, there is only 10 sealed sets 7-8 left, prices go up. Supply and demand.
Im not saying this translates for lorcana, but be wary, nothing is guranted.
I quit playing magic years ago got busy with life wanted to play FaB but hasn’t grown in my area. Finished my masters degree in May now I’ve got more time for card games again.
I like lorcana but it’s just almost too simple.
Started playing the Star Wars TCG it’s really good have been really surprised.
I find myself buying less and less Lorcana mostly because at the beginning you were making decks... now we go for incremental improvements, it starts to feel like standard. I'm not buying starters anymore. I got a Trove once. No need to get more.
And yes, I do play it with my daughter too.
Just want to say I believe in the dream. I only really started looking into it today, but lorcana really does look promising.
I agree with you and had a same sway with lorcana. But seeing my kids gather my bulk of lorcana and Digimon into their bags, and starting to recognize them makes me happy.
It still makes me smile - she pulled out her Aladdin box today and started working through cards and just saying character names
@HometownTcg yeah that's the best. Or when they know the references in the cards related to the movies and shows. My daughter calls those out when she watches wrecked Ralph.
you meander a lot in your thoughts. only like 2 mins was about lorcana
Lorcana either needs a news banger set, to implement rotation, or to implement a banlist to encourage people to get off their current staples. I mean, most of the major decks use the same staples from the first 2 - 3 sets, leaving players little reason to continue buying product.
Edit: also it’s insane how none of these comments seem to be addressing the purpose of this video lol
Just bought my second case of shimmering skies. Love it. I sell on TCGPlayer and I will say something... the release of Shimmering skies I had so many single sales I couldn't even keep up with it. So, I wonder if people realize the product will come down after the first couple of weeks, already have a lot of product and cards, and just want to buy the singles on the whole from now on.
Might be a dumb question but I just have to ask:) When do you think they will stop printing the older sets. Take for example floodborne. They have to at some point stop printing, but when in youre opinion might that be?:) good vid btw👯
I don't think they've reprinted either since early 2024. But they haven't announced that they will never reprint it, but at the same time they said they would let us know if they reprint, and they haven't said anything about that either and no new recent print dates have come out on any product.
I agree and have been doing the same all year. Also Ilumineer's Troves are the rarest product SKU in all sets. Value of packs alone will not make sense but as merely a collectors item they will stay highly desirable IMO.
I am getting them as a way to introduce my kids to TCGs. I think the game is easy to play and the cards are characters they love.
I need a digital version
I have not decided if I want to fully get on the Lorcana train yet. I was really, REALLY, R-E-A-L-L-Y, put off by the unavailability and scalper pricing of the 1st Chapter and Rise of the Floodborn to the point of I never got any cards from those sets at all. I did buy a few starter decks from Shimmering Skies and Ursala's Return as well as a few boosters from Inklands, but I'm less $100 into the game and I don't know anybody actually playing it. I just don't know if I'm going to continue to pursue it or not yet at this point.
I am not a TCG/CCG fan in general because of the bottomless money pit they can become, I got out of MTG in the mid '90s because I could already see that it was becoming VERY expensive, and quite frankly I'd rather buy a hobby board game and stick it on the shelf instead.
I love collecting but just played for the first time with a friend who saw me enjoying it and it a ablast!
My girl did the exact same thing. He smiled and joy of doing cards exact the same..gold mined.i told my girl same thing..love the dad vibes ❤u did the same
You can't use one website after a policy change - to make any reliable conclusions. It's extremely unprofessional to make such conclusions
I randomly searched Lorcana today on RUclips and came to this video. I am from Germany, i play Yu Gi Oh and collect Pokemon for years now and today was the first time I opened the site of tcgplayer.
What i want to say is, yes this video has valuable points but for example with the Gamescom in Germany taken place two weeks ago I am 100% sure the numbers look different in other countries and sites.
I still don’t know why you changed your mind. Can someone tell me?
I play lorcana, I also collect but I haven't bought one pack of Shimerring skys, why? I don't need any of the cards, my decks work great and are very competitive with the first 4 sets, ill buy a few singles from each set moving forward to improve decks but im done with boxes
Buying singles is a totally good way to interact with the hobby!
I agree if you’re not interested in the commons / uncommons or otherwise have an open outlook to building a new deck, don’t buy a box. I buy boxes when I have decks but want to build another one so based on my pulls, I let the wind take me in that direction to whatever I can build
Same if you’ve been playing since set 1 or two you have all the cards you need to build competitive decks of any color combo . Singles are it for me . I’ll buy six packs for sealed but that’s it
I got a good feeling about Lorcana. Let see how it goes it years to come
Here’s my issue as a millennial growing up in the 90’s and why I feel like Lorcana will be capped lower than other popular TCGs.
If we compare Pokemon to Lorcana, Lorcana is Disney but Pokemon is Pokemon (yes it’s owned by three companies, Nintendo being the most known) but it is its own brand in many ways.
Lorcana will always just be Disney. I don’t see it as a brand. If Lorcana had its own characters separate from the common Disney characters I think (though higher risk) it would perform better in the long run. More thoughts on that…
In addition, the excitement about Pokemon is the release of new generations with new packs, a new video game and new show with the new generation. Lorcana will be launching things that have already existed that people have to wait and hope for. One reason why Shimmering Skies flopped is probably related to Wreck it Ralph not being the most ideal to launch this early. However, Big Hero 6 might be better. On this note, what if Lorcana goes the direction of Marvel and Star Wars and the demand for classic Disney characters falls away?
I think there are a lot of questions but I don’t think it will fail. I just don’t see it reaching the likes of other popular TCGs even 10-20 years from now.
How’s Lorcana going to branch out from just a card game but establish itself as its own brand that is a branch of Disney?
The game is expanding, and buyers are getting it from another places as availability increases.
Thinking of collecting Lorcana for a collection
I think the game will survive but....... unlike pokemon, magic, yugioh etc many people are stockpiling sealed product which was definitely not the case in the 90s-00s. Average people simply have more capital whether cash or access to credit not to mention knowledge based on predecessor tcgs to hold sealed product. Looks like in 20 years there will be a bunch of sealed/graded product to not warrant high values. Just my opinion. (I'm sitting on a case of each set indefinitely)
I didn't pre order shimmering skies because they're releasing too fast imo. Just can't justify spending that much money
you can easily pre-order the shimmering skies that says its not selling the many.
Feels like too many sets too quickly, but love the game!
I was happy with the announcement because it keeps scalpers away and that they want this game to stay kid friendly. This game is really fun and a great way to get none tcg players in. The tcg landscape as a whole, will grow from lorcana.
I mean there’s stacks and stack of product just sitting in shops and big box stores. I think Lorcana really has grabbed everyone it can. The game also isn’t evolving.
That twist was quite surprising
Hopefully it was worth the watch!
Y’all are gonna take a nap and sleep on the game before it even gets interesting.
The game description describes part of the game play is our imagination.
If you think for a second they won’t expand the games mode both relaxed and competitive then keep sleeping.
This game has potential to actually go somewhere and its players like me that will have to bring what I’m saying into fruition 😅❤
5th set sag is a thing. People who realize cards cost a lot over time shakes off new buyers.
My biggest problem with the TCG is the barrier to entry, in terms of getting a deck that can compete in a normal LGS night. It can cost hundreds just for a few play sets of core singles 💀. Having the same card in multiple rarities (like pokemon TCG) would most likely help at least a little bit
But this is true for most TCGs that aren’t Pokémon. Magic and YGO decks are far more expensive to be competitive, many Lorcana players are usually very willing to trade and help you build for much cheaper than just buying TCG singles
Before at my LGS people played competitive decks starting out, but as time has gone on and more available cards come out, people have been making less competitive theme decks to mess around with until tournament time. Someone the other day made a Flotsam Jetsam deck and another did a Mickey and friends only deck.
@@akebo92 wish the players at mine were that chill lol 😆 I want to run brooms for fun
You can have a competive deck for less than $60.
This game is the cheapest TCG out of the big ones. The most expensive deck will run you close to $400 and that’s if you’re heavily invested into that color combination you don’t need to play that. Like others in here are saying you can build something under $100 and do decent with it at locals or even at Set Champs. I play red purple which is a meta deck and I got everything for about $200 which is fairly cheap when it comes to tcg standards. Yugioh you need playsets of cards that are $50+ each.
Recently moved over to this game due to pokemon being very power crept and nobody playing digimon
I only buy local. Most everyone by me buys local.
The major issue with Lorcana is that unlike other tcgs that can create new cards every set, Lorcana has to rely heavily on ip, something that isn't sustainable. You can only make so many Mickey, Belle, Elsa, Hercules, etc. cards before they all just appear the same and become void of any differences to make them valuable in their own right. Only way for Lorcana's survival is to start moving towards implementing non ip characters so that it can stand a chance of surviving longer than 5 years.
Pikachu and Charizard would disagree, I feel like there are plenty of versions of both
Thanks for showing us why you don't design games lmao or even play apparently lmao mtg, pokemon, one piece all do exactly what you said lorcana can't do 😂😂😂
Disney has over 100 years worth of animation/ips and that’s not including everything they’re gonna make they won’t run out of ideas any times soon
Don't forget there going a mirrorverse route so there could be so many different variations as well as bring in different gimmicks it's not like they'd shy away from cross overs either so it's possible they could bring in marvels big hero 6 so many different routes they could take from here
Am I the only one that thought shimmering skies was just meh?
Nah. I’ve built 2 decks and one of them has 6 cards from set 6 and the other has 2. It hardly changed anything for me. Pete uncommon is probably the best card from the set tbh 😂
2026 will be HUGE for Lorcana.
Azurite Sea is Killing it and sales are great.
It’s doing OK. Imo they are overprinting by a bit but I love that the interest and community is still there!
Shimmering Isles isn’t available locally where I live so I have to buy it online. I imagine local stores will catch up with stock soon but it definitely effects momentum here…
Lorcana will be huge
Good riddance to the flippers and scalpers. Go back to pump and dumping the games that nobody plays instead.
Yeah for sure - they were making the boxes cost so much and really hard to come by in recent sets - hopefully the prices of everything can come down a bit without flippers and scalpers
So lorcana?
@@Rayquaza894 sure, you can live in that fantasy land if it makes you feel better.
Is George aware of your new opinions on the goat?
Lorcana lets me scratch that TCG itch I can't get with the family. MTG just isn't relatable for the wife and kids.
If the game survives 5 years, I'll be surprised.
That being said, it's a fantastic game.
You should take a look at Altered TCG. I would watch your review, discussion
I'm only 10 seconds into this video and the fact that I'm surrounded by nothing but magic the gathering in the background makes me think this comes from a bias, and there's a reason why he chose to make it that way instead of a flat background, it's almost as if it was as the coast is tapping him on the shoulder saying that hey they're getting hyped and we need y'all to calm down
Well you’re in for a bit of a twist it seems 🤣
If they don’t rush out a digital game it’s over they will never recover. Magic and Yugioh got away with it for years because of when they released but there is no way Lorcana can survive off collectors alone.
Pixelborn was actually very damaging to the game. Yes it's nice to play it for free. But that's the problem, there were a lot of people who only played on Pixelborn and immediately left when they could no longer play it for free online.
You. Are. Awesome.
only first set has any speculative value or nostalgia, it was heavily frontloaded with bomb legendaries. You can get an entire floodborn set for about $60 with only Beast and Mim Fox being the only cards above $4. Inklands is cheaper now ursula and diablo came down . Overall, I don't see any trend that will lead me to believe anything other than first chapter will ever hold any future weight.
Love the shirt! 🤙
I wish every game would go to zero, so parasites investors would move to something else and let people enjoy the hobby
Love this
Thanks for watching!
does this mean i should sell my whole collection before it loses all value? Ive been hearing that Lorcana is dying.
Thought you were having a Lorcana clearance sale because of your thumbnail, nvm.dislike.
He thinks early boxes will be valuable down the road and will collect them. I saved you ten minutes
I see a lot more people playing. Especially women and couples.
My wife will play Lorcana with me from time to time.
@HometownTcg I met two new couples in open play at the LGS. Just started playing. One of the husbands plays Magic and now Lorcana because his wife plays. See how that happened. Wife plays he plays. Men are like puppy dogs. Easily walked and trained. I'm a guy just older and chuckle every time I see it. Women are amazing.
@@lerak8452 not everything is about being a dog or trained (or bottom), it is about respecting each other and spending time together. If there is communication, then both agreed to play together
I got two cases of skies coming in… don’t tell me this sh**
This video is a complete contradiction.
You’ll have to elaborate for me on that one, friend.
If they came out with a kingdom hearts set it would lock us in big time!
That would be like a 5th wall break within a 4th wall break ❤️🤘💪
You look like Seth Rogan.....awhhuhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhh
lorcana booster box 24 packs. 120 euro.. Pokemon booster box 36 same price.. smells like some bs Disney tax a la creme to me.
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