Hands Free Annealing: AMP Mate
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2023
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Annealing Made Perfect’s AMP Mark II revolutionized the way reloaders process brass. It ensures greater consistency, longer brass life, and more systematic resizing. In this video, we take the process to the next level with The AMP Mate. Check out how to automate the entire process!
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I gotta be able to afford the annealer first lol
Me too!
So true. I first saw it and was like oh man I need that.....saw price and went back to using a torch. Lol
one on amazon for like 200 that i use works pretty well
Annealeez may be your answer. Simple setup and affordable.
I asked Santa for the Annealer 😂😂
I’ve had my amp mate for sometime and it is such a great addition. It really frees you up to work on other tasks while it’s taking care on business.
Looks cool but I think I'll stick to a propane torch for now lol
Yep lol
I have the V2 AMP. I use it for 6 dasher, 223/556, and 308. Works great. Thanks for the video.
All these toys......it never ends.
I would almost prefer to just hire a full time assistant. At least we could have some conversation along the way.
Yes, one of those Dillon ladies, LOL.
Am I the only old guy, that this reminds me of, the 'Mousetrap' game????
The AMP biggest shortfall is the 1 by 1 manual human method it was designed around. Would be better if they redesigned it with automation as the forethought, not as an after thought.
Your remark about watching the automated system brought back memories of P Chem lab. We automated a system and stood and watched it function. The prof looked at us and remarked, the greatest part of automating a system is being able to stand around doing nothing while watching it function. I can venture a guess that logic carries over to wiring a lathe and a mill in a one-man shop to the same breaker telling yourself, it's only me and I won't be turning a part and milling another at the same time!
that's awesome.... could watch it all day long....
Never even thought about automating this. Slick
Great products and awesome video, thanks for posting it up. I have the Amp annealer but just can’t justify the Amp mate due to multiple calibers and the setup time just isn’t worth it. I could see it being worth it if you were processing 500 cases of the same caliber at once.
Great way to have uniform annealing. Currently using for 6 Dasher, 223, 308, 284 and 6.5-284. Has made my reloading more consistent with lower ES.
Not sure why everything has to be automated and the cost is going crazy on everything these days good video though Gavin !
Is the reloading world turning into the golf club world? just like clubs it doesn't make you shoot better! The basics always win every time!!
I'ts getting crazy!
I don't think this extreme stuff is needed unless you are shooting f class or extreme long range, which requires pretty much half moa at 1000 yards and beyond...
Just when you think “reloading” tech can’t get MORE Rube Goldberg-esque someone proves me wrong!
I love my amp saves a lot of time . Annealing .308, .270, 30.06 and 300 win mag . Using redding she’ll holders makes easy change over as well.
Got my v2 some time ago. I use it for 6.5x47 Lapua, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30-06 and 9.3x66 Sako. Awesome machine, super simple to use and most importantly: I can prolong lifetime of my brass and get seating pressure better unified.
very impressive
Gavin has all the fun tools....
Would love to have the budget and space for an Annealing machine like this. Very cool to watch and would be great for high volume 223/556 processing.
The ejection is brutal !!!
The feed to the seater always get stuck with 223 one fired brass
Crazy expensive!
I have an AMP Annealer and an AMP Press ... and love them both. Considered this gadget, but honestly, unless you're shooting a whole lot of the same thing, or maybe running a commercial reloading operation ... it just doesn't make sense for me. I typically anneal 20-to-40 cases at a time, maybe two or three calibers from range work or a competition ... and I can have 80-ish cases already annealed before the intricate setup for one caliber is complete. It's a wicked cool piece of gear, but the ROI and PITA just doesn't work for me and the volume of cases I anneal in any given month.
I can see the appeal of this, especially for comp shooters. When loading for a match, I'll usually load 120 rounds per match and if I can, I'll load for as many matches as I plan to shoot that year once I've found a good load. The price is what gets me. Almost 2k for the whole setup 😬
Yup, this is the high-end Gucci of annealing machines and accessories 😉👍👊🇺🇸
I'm sending this video to Santa
The amount of steps it takes to dial in the ampmate to do ammo I wonder if there is a better way to design this so that once you set up for a specific caliber you just swap the piece for the caliber conversion out. if it takes you 30 minutes to setup for each caliber is it worth the investment in time and money. If you only do one caliber like Erik Cortina then yeah it is worth it.
I have almost this same set up for 6xc. my only difference is I made my own stand.
My best hack is using my Dillon feeder and stand from this setup to feed my LEE APP. For depriming.
The AMP is $1500 if you want everything automated. I can't justify that cost
People are having difficult times buying groceries. Not sure what these manufacturers are thinking.
This thing is for lottery winners, not for real people.
Flame annealers are pretty automatic and less than $200
THIS…
Merry Xmas Gavin from New Zealand.
Looks like back to the future
Too finicky for what it costs. They need to improve the process and we should not need to get a Dillion for the system to function. Waaaay to bulky.
I don't have an extra $2600 laying around. This is for sponsored pros or semi pros.
Definitely not for real shooters.
So i have always struggled with the Order of Operations and there is no dear Aunt Sally. Size/deprime and then anneal or deprime and the anneal and tgen size. If you do not have a consistent sizing stroke, could there be variations in your brass if you anneal 1st....
I’ve got an amp mate setup in my loading room. Love the thing. I will say that mine seems to run much slower than yours. I know there’s two different settings in the “speed field” but both of them run the same speed. Any insight? Maybe the @annealingmadeperfect guys can chime in.
This is a classic example of, “Do you shoot to reload, or do you reload to shoot”
Really cool, but unless you shooting thousands of high quality brass a week, I really dont see the purpose.
I would love to be able to afford that set up. Being medically retired from the military and fire department my funds are limited. One day maybe.
Please send me a itemized list of the products you used and where to get them please
Where have you shown that the annealer is actually doing anything? Seems incredibly big for one case at a time and I don’t see them smoking or getting red or anything.
Def not digging the black walls. But Gavin has great reviews!
Why not use the temp controlled salt bath for under $100?
Salt bath annealing sadly does nothing to the hardness of the brass. The whole purpose of annealing. It is proven in multiple videos on youtube.
New Zealand 🇳🇿 made. I wants it.
Sure hope ultimate reloader responds to my comments because you want to have a discussion
That case feeder stand looks good. Where to buy that?
I believe he got it at Creedmoor sports.
Wonder how long that will last? A year maybe?
Not sure the AMP Annealer will cope with my 577-450 cases 😂
This must be for pro shooters. The average reloader can't afford 2k for an annealing machine
I havent even gotten my hands on a AMp annealer... and they already jumping into an Add-on unit.. im sooo behind. Haha
Dude, this hobby just keeps getting more and more insanely expensive lol. Like everything else this is cool but…🤑
I bought a amp mate to use it trim brass used once, him me up if interested used 2 times
The whole idea of reloading is to save money not to throw it away
Can’t imagine what that cost probably be cheaper to pay someone to sit there and do it
I can buy a lot of brass for the cash layout this contraption would run me.
$2500+- for everything… Nice, but that fixed income thing….
Okay, the AMP Mate is only $600... I figured twice that. So if you have the $2300 for the AMP Mark II then another $600 is pocket change.
OMG what does that thing cost! I think I’ll just keep using my $250 unit…
Discount code plz lol
What happened to reloading on a budget ? Most of us don't have ammo factories. Looks like its time to open a new YT channel called "Expensive Reloader"
Very nice. Still missing the quintessential answer... what is the hardness of the brass .... new brass, fired brass and annealed brass.
I test these values and can assure that a simple self build automated torch annealer does the same for less money, space and hassle.
Test the hardness, otherwise this is a waste of time and money.
So if you don’t test its a waste of money? The AMP test the when you calibrate it. Can a torch anneal yes, i would argue the repeatable on multiple brass types and calibers is the key with the AMP. Consistency is the key in annealing the brass and the AMP ensures its the same time after time… IMHO
No doubt the amp is best there is but you rely on what a machine tells you.
If you don't have numbers to compare it is worthless
@@christoph8333 so I assume you have tested your system against the AMP then? If not how do you know it’s worthless? Also building an open flame automated torch annealer seems like a hassle to some…
Noone questions the performance of the amp.
All I am saying is, if you don't test the hardness of your brass before and after annealing you don't know if it did anything to your brass. I tested the hardness the hardness of new, fired and annealed myself and I know how to return to factory new brass hardness. Do what you like but without takeing measurements you are stepping in the dark.
@@christoph8333 I have tested hardness and in my experience the amp performs as advertised…. Additionally returning brass to a consistent place each time is the key… factory hardness is not necessarily the best IMHO
2500 bucks just to get started both machines and case feeder and all necessary parts to make it work. REDICULOUS!!
I have a black background and I'm going to show you black products.
You have too much time and money on your hands. All that is fine but for around $200 one can do an induction annealer and actually touch the equipment they’re using. This may be fine for someone who is going to be going through thousands of cases on a weekly basis. I agree, another mousetrap.
Yah, thats really cool...but whats wrapped up in that? About $3000? No thanks
I enjoy your videos but that was kind of what you might call sort of a little extra boring. The information may have been good but I would like a little bit more engaging video. Let not only let's me know academically. That I can multi-task and such but would reallee. It doesn't sell the value of. something like this.
Look at the one made in South Africa much cheaper.
So here is my discussion. If you are going to spend that kind of money then just buy new brass. Good grief.
You have got to be kidding me. This is utterly rediculous. In what world can anyone afford such equipment as this? This is so impractical.
i use it on 223 rem 243 win 308 win 30/06 s/fld