Review: 2021 Triumph Tiger 900 Rallye Pro
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- After 3 months of riding the Triumph Tiger 900 Rallye Pro here are my thoughts.
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I own two Yamaha's. A 1994 XT600E and a 2016 Tracer 700. Both great but was looking for something to replace my Tracer. I tried the KTM 790 which was fun but going back to my Tracer felt good. Same with the Africa Twin. Then I tried the Tiger 900 Rally Pro which was sensational. Triumph really perfectly designed the bike from A to Z. You mentioned it Bret even the Wind protection is great. Driving my Tracer home I would have just loved to turn around before the first corner and leave my Tracer at the dealer. The Tiger 900 is for me the modern successor of Yamaha XT600. I think you can't make a bigger compliment to a motorcycle. Thank you Bret I always love to watch your videos.
This bike has a lot of the improvements I was looking for over my Tiger 800 xca. Two things kept me from wanting to move to a 900. The readouts on the dash are messy and difficult to read and the T plane crank on the engine. The 800 triple is just so smooth and nice for touring and does well enough off-road that I just can't see giving it up. It made the bike unique in the ADV class over the twins and now that's gone. Appreciate your honest reviews as always.
Glad you called out the Triumph crash bars. Nice review!
Now that I just installed the OEM Bars I feel stupid.
So what are the best options to add upper crash bars on an RP??
@@ottomatic7823 same
Great review and love the details such as improving the crash guards.
I've the the 2021 Matte Green version of that bike, Bret, and absolutely love it. Thanks for a great review (I concur about the plastic "edging" for the knees).
Me Too, I've had it actually catch on my knee braces . But on and off road the bike just works.
I own a 96 Tiger 900. While very little is relatable to the new bikes, I have been impressed by the build quality. The fasteners and adjoining parts seem massive and have made the service and maintenance of the bike enjoyable over the years. Pretty cool to hear that they seem to be sticking (to their guns) to build quality while others transition to cost driven measures. My 96 gets down the road just fine…paved or (preferably) not.
Really glad to watch this review as I'm picking up Mt new 900 Rally pro next week. I had a 800xca for a few years now and looking forward to getting the 900 😂😂
Well, one of the best reviews we have seen here in YT. Thanks!
Great review overall. You can absolutely get the wheel spinning in off-road mode, that's the best way to learn how to drift. It will let you get a bit sideways but then stop you from going too far. Once you get confident then start drifting in off-road pro. Great bike off-road!
Bret. You’re the Alton Brown of motorcycling. Smart, witty, informative..keep crushing the videos dude.
LoL...dude..that's perfectly well put😁😂🤔👍
Totally, now how do we get Alton and Bret to collaborate on some sort of travel show!!!
@@rickybobby8224 alton brown can show us an easy way to cook a meal on the rear bikes cargo plate thing🤔😜 while bret can help him figure out a way for the cooker to be tied into the engines power or battery
@@motoryzen i'm willing to sign on as a producer if you are.
Give that man a wet wipe lol
Great review. I demo’d this bike at the Florida IMS and you are right - overall a great bike (although I didnt go off road). Unfortunately, I just bought a Tracer 900 GT so it will be a while before I am ready for a new bike.
PS - great to meet you that day in person.
I really like this bike. I'm had a few triumphs, including a 60's Bonneville (stolen, I would have never sold it), a 955 Daytona, a speed triple, and for a very short time even a new Bonneville. Always wanted a Tiger. I am thinking my next steed will be one of these. Giddy up!!!
So professional and articulate as usual. Thanks much !
I have the crash bars from SW-Motech. Bikes been dropped a few times including a low speed drop on asphalt when my wife was riding it and they completely protected the bike. I highly recommend them!
Very thorough review - definitely a competitive middleweight adventure bike.
Thanks for reviewing this bike!
Hey Bret, nice review. Given the option to choose between Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro and Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports, which one will you keep?
As always your review matters a lot…point to point detailing. Superb..🤟🏻
😁smile while you ride because attitude matters.
Nice review. I was looking to swap my 790 for the Tiger 900 RP (had a few more issues than yourself). The Tiger looked like the closest match. Only thing stopping me was no stock in Australia. Now lock-down has just finished here i'll have to see if I can find a test ride.
I’m waiting 4 months, so far, for a new tank to arrive (Australian delivery, Tiger 900 GT). My crash bars & a heap of other parts took 6 months to arrive.
Great review!...as for the new rims packing up with mud, nothing was worse than my ol' Bultaco that had shouldered Akronts.i could fill plant pots after a days worth of slogging!😂
Triumph should give you the bike for your trip, sounds like it would be perfect for you, and them
I agree 👍
Maybe for the Africa trip
Nice way to start a video with the bike starting in a horizontal orientation. Makes you go wtf? but in a good way. Refreshing.
It's a position every viewer can relate too 😁
I'm on a tiger 800 right now but in time I'm debating upgrading
I like your enthusiasm, Bret. And that you are still critical of many details others simply don't notice. Great review.
I never liked the Tiger 800. Boring engine, no real kick. Whereas the Street Triple 765... wow.
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
That was awesome. To much fun!
I’ve not ridden off road…just test ride. But I liked this better than the BMW 850 adv I rode at the BMW school. Never even considered a triumph before this…also super impressed with the Scrambler XE….I can’t wait for those to depreciate in 2-3 years…;)
I agree
I made the right choice. 😄 ....... oh yeah you forgot to mention anything on the GT PRO model Bret.
Whaaat? I wasn’t sure for the first minute if you ditched the GS and now had a serious professional relationship with Triumph … by the way your channel logo fit and matched perfectly on to the side of the Semi’s trailer. Lol
That logo placement wasn't and accident 😁
Just reviewing my aragon and the tank crash bars have an additional mounting point where your hand was. I wonder if thats on purpose to increase the protection offered, or if its cosmetic
Hey Bret, Can you review Royal Enfield Himalayan? I always look forward to your opinion and suggestions.
900 seems to have a few improvements over the 800. I have the XCA best money I spent was ona NITRON NTR3 ADVENTURE SHOCK WITH REMOTE HPA I also had the forks revalved, reshimmed updated springs. Feels like a different bike so much more planted. The one thing manufacturers always do is poor OEM spec suspension, even the WP setup is poor for an adventure bike with rider luggage weights.
The “skidpate” & crash bars are bolted to the engine cases?!?!?!
nice looking machine. I really like the ergonomic adjustment details. as you said "details matter" but as usual, it aint enough. for fully grown adults like me with a 38" inseam and other similar dimensions, the bike is too small and will require about a grand in updates in order to be useful. I have yet to see a bike that is designed to be fully adjustable to an adequate range of ergonomics. Nor have I seen one that is designed to accommodate upgrades that make that possible. i.e. for a new bike there is always a pretty lengthy delay from release to a full suite of aftermarket options. Nor have I ever encountered a dealer who had the expertise and service to put together a package of ergonomic adjustments. Its always up to the rider to "figure it out". Its always "many thousands of dollars please, good luck". By the time I have gone through the effort to research what is available to make the adjustments and then guess at what the bike will be like with those adjustments... Ive lost interest. This is not just an Adventure Bike thing. But it is most common because those bikes typically come closest to my physical needs
What this means is that neither manufacturer nor dealer ever get my money for a current model year bike. Im buying used, possibly with upgrades installed, but certainly with less financial risk in the equation. But I do wonder what its like to have a warranty.
Not your problem, of course. I am that one annoying relative that will bang on about that one thing at every opportunity :)
No manufacturer is going to cater to your dimensions... They have to focus on the center of the bell curve. I'm the Past KTM and BMW have always been the easiest to make fit tall guys
@@BretTkacs I get it. Im still going to bitch about it. :) You all get sports cars, motorcycles, economy seating on airplanes, a wide selection of inexpensive clothing that fits...I get..the top shelf and a good view at a concert
great review new into this segment and was debating africa twin vs rally 75/25 type riding
what do you suggest ? also, what tires for 75/25 type riding trails, basic stuff nothing technical yet lol thanks ! was the bruising from the plastic really that bad? i've heard it many many times seems like triumph should make a rubber inlay there or something
Thanks.
Please review the new 1200 Rally Pro
Just wait for the 1200
Do you have to give the tractor trailer back too? Lol thank awesome clip
Hi Bret! Huge fan over here, thank you so much for your channel!! I know this is quite personal but if you would have to choose one between the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and the Africa Twin, which one would you pick? Cheers!
For the road I'd take the Tiger, in the dirt give me an AT.
@@BretTkacs hi, same kind of question between the 909RP and the 890R ? May be same answer, 90RP more onroad, 890R more offroad , right ? Wandering if your warranty claims were fixed on your 790R ?
Great bike, my bike.
3:23 is that a GS biased statement? Because my 22 Rally Pro is OMG in Off Road mode, setup personally with the settings.
So ...... Tiger Rally Pro or a BMW 850 GSA? Gun to your head decision.. 😂 ... Good video 👍
One Sunday morning I got home after a catastrophic splashdown in a claypit. Jet washed the bike, then jet washed the driveway, stripped off to my undies and hosed my riding kit off outdoors. Oh how the wifey laughed.... Sympathy was somewhat lacking
No problem with vibrations? My testride was bad above @ 3000/min and worse @6000/min ...
Noticable but not what I would call bad.
The only person who is Zack level engaging and Ari level technical.
gotta love all 3!
and Chris from bike world!
Don't forget to mix in a Ryan F9 comparison too haha
That's an insult to Zach and Ari
Holy smokes, that lift was effortless
Here is the video on the lifting techniques ruclips.net/video/C4NFXz8Y73c/видео.html
Mostly effortless because Bret did it, not me 😀
@@robsciuk729 probably accurate for most of us. But weve all seen him lift multiple bikes in other videos, this was effortless. Even compared to all the other times weve seen him lift a bike. . Extremely demonstrative of what he's saying about the bike if you ask me.
Wondering if the negative side of this is low ground clearance making low centre of gravity. Also exposed headers. He didnt touch on some key things for hard off road use that makes me curious.
Sold! I was considering a Tiger 900 vs. a KTM 890 and was favouring the 900 for its equipment level and reliability but if Bret reckons the serious issue are to removable (and nil value-add) plastic parts then that a fantastic recommendation for buying a Rally Pro.
Good and honest review in my opinion, owning a Rally Pro for 6 months I'd say you spot on, used it off road a fair bit and the best upgrade so far is putting some pirelli scorpion str rubber on it, a good dual option if you are going off road but want a fairly quiet ride there and stock rubber is alway limiting. 👍
Great info. I'm planning on getting my 900 RP later this year. I can't wait. SoCal and Northern Baja...mostly road, some off road and tons of "whatever comes my way".
Bret, loved the review. Exactly what I expected from you. Honest, detailed, informative, clear and concise. When I rode the bike at IMS Carlisle, twice, and fell in love, I immediately noticed the "knee killers" as they've been affectionately dubbed by others. With my off road only back round, it was noticeable and painful almost immediately when standing up on the pegs. Very happy to see that they're easily removable with a couple bolts and have no ill-effect on the bike once removed. My only gripe with your review, you didn't go through any of the menu options on TFT display or how easy or difficult it is to use. Other than that, this review just solidifies my purchase decision. It's the top 3 ADV bike on my list, along with the Tuareg 660 and the Nordon 901. The T7 and the KTM 890 round out my top 5, but the other 3 are really speaking to me and I've only rode the Tiger 900 obviously because the other two aren't available yet.
Same..I did a TON of research over 1 year. Planning on this 900 RP later this year.
I own a rally pro and am very happy with it.
I have not been off-road with it, mainly because I have next to no off road experience and with a 29” inseam I am always up on the balls of my feet at best, and secondly I am waiting till I need to replace the tyres.
Did you use the standard road biased tyres off road? If so how did they fair?
I currently work in Germany down near the Alps so have managed to do some nice rides, even a 15 hour stint from Munich to the midlands (UK) taking in 5 countries.
Part of me thinks I should get a smaller bike to use of road to gain experience! What’s your thoughts on that?
Glad you enjoyed the Triumph
Ian
Back on Two Wheels
Finally a thorough review from someone I trust that has ridden the bike for more than an afternoon! :D Only made me want it more lol
Other reviewers: I walked by this motorcycle therefore you should base your purchase on my reviews
Bret: You want to know the guage of the headlight wiring? I got you
@@danmanthe9335 what annoys me the most is: “this bike is certainly the best for those long trips, based on all of the 15 minutes I rode it on the streets around the dealership”
Blog r900s
@@danmanthe9335 🤣
@@rafasoaresms 🤣
Great review. I love my 900 RP, and 'Yes' the first thing I did was take off those little plastic thingies and toss them in the trash. :-)
I have heard other similar complaints. But I think the simple solution is to have longer inseams. I'm a 36" inseam @ 6'3", I feel nothing :)
Bret, I love your videos and expert advice, and that you're willing to share with us via RUclips. This was a super glowing review, as was your review of other bikes (T7), so I am curious, how does this bike stack up to the middle weight adventure bike competition? Where would you rank it compared the T7, KTM 890, BMW 850, etc?
He sold his 790 and bought a T7.
A fair and honest review, from a trusted source, one cannot ask for more. 🎩-Tip Mr Tkacs.
Great reveiw. However I am not a fan of bikes that you have to rev to get power on. I will stick with my bmw which has alot of low down torque. Just my preference I guess.
Very happy with this bike. Regarding crash bars, I chose the skid plate combo from Outback Mototrek, it is very tough. There is an update for the switch off the engine
Agreed
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@@BretTkacs 👊🏻
Have u dropped the bike? Had any problems?
@@giwrgosvirlas2747 not yet, at least with it. I tested it on my previous bike
Appreciate your enthusiasm…not always easy when you do it for a living.
Lucky for me I train and take riders on international adventures for a living. I do videos as a public service 😉
@@BretTkacs easy to be humble when you're one of a kind! love you videos! they're very informative and your attitude is AAA+++
I've a 2016 800 kitten. LOVE LOVE LOVE it. It replaced my 2006 1200gs which I sold with 160K miles. It got too heavy for me to pick up when it took a nap. I have over 50K miles on her now. I'm not ready for another Motorbike, but when I am it will likely be the 900 here
As of now this bike is on the top of my list to be my retirement bike here in two years. I agree with you though, it’s just a phenomenal bike! The quick shifter, ergos, even the way it sets off from a stop. This bike is amazing. Super easy to ride slow and track stand too!
Do you think this bike should have upper crash bars? ( I have seen your treatment of this question on the GS)
Agree, a very good all-rounder. Plenty of power with all bells and whistles. The only thing I didn't like - not possible to change from road to offroad riding mode without stopping.
Agreed. I run a 2020 Tiger 800 and this is a pain in the arse. Would have thought the 900 would allow the offroad transition on the fly.
Just asking becuse I'm new to motorcycles, but is that a manufacturer thing or government regulation?
For example, I know some governments require that if a bike turns off, when it starts again the ABS automatically turns back on.
@@csolivais1979 it's a Triumph thing with traction control. Loss of power to rear wheel in dirt is annoying. But the ABS issue could be Govt mandate in some countries i guess.
Thanks for your honest review Bret! I own the GT model and I really love the bike. One word that you've used in your review, and which I totally agree with, (especially as a new rider) is that it's "forgiving." Have a safe trip to Nepal!
Hi Bret, great review, as we are all have got used to your 1st class content, keep going and have fun in Nepal!!!
Your review echoed my 6500 km experience with the bike, off- and onroad. Two further remarks, controls are backlit, very useful in the dark (Hard Alpi Trail 2021 proven!!) and the crash protection supplied from Outback Mototek (bash plate and crash bars) is the lightest, most affordable and really good working -> tested! To make crash protection complete use Bark busters for the handle bar and you‘re set.
Cheers
Michael
If I owned this bike Outback Mototek would be my choice.
Great review!
Being a tiger 800 owner and putting nearly 100k on it in 3 years. I'd love to try out one of those tiger 900s and see all the little tweaks and improvements
I don't know if there's a word for the opposite of buyer remorse but just paid for the khaki matt green colorway today. Delivery ETA 1 week. Taking it off the showroom floor into a 3.6k km ride.
Thanks, Brett. Great video. If you drop your bike at a medium slow speed the OEM upper engine guard will dent your gas tank, which is what happened to me.
Did you get the new/improved Tiger upper bars yet? I"m told their much better and added support.
@@kee7678 No, I've got the same old ones (that I'm not very happy with). If you get them, please let us know how they seem (hopefully you won't test them out!).
@@3ftDeepChannel I've heared the bolts snap on upper bars!?
I bought Khaki Green Rally Pro back in September 2020.
You do know the Khaki Green is the fastest one, right! 😂
Great bike and I absolutely love it.
The one gripe I have, not included in this review, is the double 3D style rev counter when in the full screen TFT mode.
This is a total waste of screen space IMO.
Great review 👍
Great review! I owned one and agree with everything that you mentioned. I ended up going back to the 1200GS, mainly because I'm more street oriented and also I felt the tiger lacked a bit of character in the engine. Love my boxer.
I'm curious about how the Tiger 900RP compares to your r1200GS off road. I have a '17 1200gs and really like it, but would consider the Tiger if was a bit better on dirt and gravel roads, climbs and moderately technical baby head and loose rock terrain. Thougts?
@@superflycatchermtb To be honest I'm probably not the best person to ask. My off road use is limited to the more moderate stuff. I did notice more stability with the 21“ front. I do find the 12GS easier to pick up though. When I put my fully fueled RP on the scales it was 505 lbs, so it's not exactly light.
@@superflycatchermtb I had a 900RP last year, this year I ride a 1250GS. And, I have happened to ride exactly the same road on both in very similar conditions. About 80km of pretty bumpy gravel. Although my offroad skills are very basic, the average speed on the Triumph was ~20km/h higher then on the GS. The Tiger handles better plus the suspension feels much more reliable. The GS seemed too heavy and it tend to slip to outside of the turn while the Tiger just "carved" into. Possibly the 21" front wheel is much more suitable for such rides.
@@superflycatchermtb different platforms for sure. The Tiger gets the nod in most situations over the 1200/1250 GS
I've just bought one! Moved on from my dear S1000RR and as such had no experience choosing an ADV bike. I did months of research and this one met all my needs at a really great price. Thanks for your review Bret, it's made me even happier with my choice. Warm hello from South Africa.
Sold my Panigale V2 and bought a 2021 900RP in Matte Green. Love the fact that it's a great all-rounder. Miss the character of the motors in the 800xc and Street Triple R I owned previously, but the 900 still rocks! a great ride in the twisties as well, despite the 21"front wheel. Cheers from Cape Town, South Africa.
@@sedickjappie9643 Lovely. I got the same colour. Safe rides to you.
Well done Bret.. maybe i like more the Africa Twin .. i am looking forward for the new Transalp .. it will come out soon i hope .. Hi from Italy
Hmmmm this was very interesting, totally destroyed my preconceived notions.
Congrats you just talked thousands of potential buyers out buying the tiger 900
My goal isn't to talk anyone in or out of any bike. I just try to share what others don't address. I figure if everyone talks about something or it's on a spec sheet I don't need to cover it other than how it works.
Hey Bret! Any chance of you doing a review of the Moto Guzzi V85TT? I'd love to see what your thoughts on it are or if you've seen students with them.
Great review...I love mine!
I had the same problem you described at the 11:20 mark with my Tiger 900 Rally Pro 2021. After an emergency stop, the bike tipped over to the left on the grass and those bars made a deep dent on the fuel tank and on the plastic piece you noted. All other parts that contacted the ground came out with just a little bit of dirt. Took the bike to the Triumph dealer and their personnel said there’s nothing wrong with the accessory. I said that the problem is not with the accessory per se, but the fact that it caused the very damage it was designed to prevent. Triumph left me in a vacuum...
That's @#$^#% man. did they get you the new ones?? Added support to their new upper crash bars?
Thanks for the honest evaluation. As a Rally (non-Pro) owner I'm encouraged that some of the things I found I liked about the bike (traction control, ergonomics, etc) are echoed by you. Glad you got to enjoy the bike, sorry Triumph put such limited tires on it, lol
Don't they offer off road tyres at no cost. Bmw do. I think the f850gs offers karoo3 or A41's
@@chrisredfield3240 No way.
@stk0308 I'm really interested in purchasing one of the 900 Rally models next year. But i'm struggling with spending another $2k on the Pro version over the standard Rally when the only thing on the Pro I want is the Off Road Pro mode so I can shut off all the ABS, instead of just the rear on the reg Off Road mode. Having owned the standard Rally, have you found yourself wanting the Off Road Pro mode or regretting not purchasing the Rally Pro version over the standard Rally? I guess that also depends on how much and how serious your off roading is. I plan to definitely put the bike through its paces off road.
Where does he go when he walks away? He’s always leaving. I’m like “come back,man!” Oh,there he is.
Not knowing how I would stitch the video together it's easier on the eyes to leave and the return. If I scripted my videos it would be easier to make different transitions. None of my videos are scripted.
Not feelin’ your love for the bike. Only saw passion in the straighter handlebars. I’m sensing you miss the KTM.
I did nothing wrong, but it also did not stir my soul.
Puig makes an excellent aftermarket windscreen for taller riders. I'm 6'3" and my Tiger 1200 would probably work for 6'1" and below with its OEM screen. Maybe 6 foot even.
I agree the traction control is very smooth and unintrusive. In Off-Road I could tell it was working, more by ear than feel, very confidence-inspiring for just tooling around on slick gravel. As soon as I started to feel the rear slip it the TC would catch it and keep it driving forward and the rear inline with the front. OR Pro is more fun but if you just want to travel standard OR will keep you moving confidently. The very linear and smooth fueling helps. I also appreciated that it drives well from very low RPM in first gear without sounding like it's lugging too much. Not many reviews mention it, but another advantage of OR and ORP is that the idle is increased to reduce the chance of stalling which is well thought out.
Great review from a genuinely good person. I had the opportunity to meet Bret at a local show and he struck me as a guy that isn't stuck on himself and just loves what he does. Looking forward to seeing more of his videos from the Nepal trip. For now I'm just looking for info on my next bike. This Triumph is high on the list.
I love my Yamaha Super Tenere, but admit it's a handful at times. I've been thinking about down sizing, but 700 is too far. This looks like a good exchange. I had to replace the Ten's handlebars with the Pro-taper because the down and back sweep of the stock bar was highly uncomfortable on long rides and near impossible in a standing position.
Thanks for this Bret, I have removed my tank finishers, and its much nicer standing up (I've put some foam tubing in to try and stop water/dirt ingress). I've also removed my Triumph Upper protection bars (I'll replace them with some aftermarket ones, but seen a few T900's with damaged tanks). Keep up the good work !
There just seems to be no good option. Triumph initial 2 mount points design is BAD. I damaged by subframe just below the beak on a low speed / low impact fall (not crash). the new 2023 version of the bars remain to be field tested. It has a 3rd mount point which is good but it still attaches to the subframe under the beak. Almost all 3rd party bars had issues with bolt breakages.
10,000 miles 50-50 in Colorado. Best ADV bike I've ever owned and I've owned almost all of them. Funny how the motor sound and the brakes being TOO good, and cleaning wheels are the biggest bitches. Lol. Every guy farkles a bike or he's not an ADV rider. Skid plate, hand guards, tires etc. I have dumped mine hard with only lower bars and no issues or scratches... Vid should be titled... It's not a BMW or KTM so it falls short... Again. Lol.
Thanks for this. I love a longer-term review, as opposed to the one-day impression as on the legacy motorcycle magazine tests.
I tried it and I liked it overall, but I found the vibrations annoying at highway speeds, I think the tail light is ugly and the bike was a bit heavier than I expected for offroad. If I had to buy a new bike now it may be this one, but it is not perfect.
I have the 2019 Tiger 800 XCA and apart from the slightly lower weight on the 900 Rally Pro I am happy to stay with the older model. It suits my riding style and requirements. Thanks for your honest reviews Bret.
I really liked my older 800 (2014)
I have the 2018 XCA. I'm 6'4" & retired so I lowered the pegs & put on risers to save my knees, a longer gear lever for my big feet & windscreen extender for my big head. Plus H&B upper crash bars & altering the front indicators to fit inside the crash-bars. It's perfect for my adventure touring on decent gravel roads. If it died I'd replace it with a 900. I think everything Brett says more or less applies to both bikes. Great bike.
Hey Brett, great review. I'm curious how you think the Tiger 900 Rally Pro compares to your BMW r1200GS LC for off roading. Gravel, sand, baby heads, two track etc.
No comparison, the Tiger gets the nod in almost every situation. It's a good thing logic doesn't drive our passion 😁
@@BretTkacs Interesting and good to know....absolutely love me '17 GS Rallye but the Tiger 900 RP is pretty compelling
Thanks I've been waiting for a good review on this. I personally find the outside spoke design to be much easier to clean than traditional center spokes. Sudsy water and a wheel brush makes very quick and easy work of it as the spacing is wider than center spokes.
the hype of using these xross pattern wheels is just :(
but the bike is nice. A little cheap feeling on some of the plastics and parts up top.
In comparison to F850 gs - feels more alive and suspension is better and can be upgraded easyer.
The bash plate and crash bars both bolt to the engine cashing. That doesn't seem like a good idea. Good potential to ruin the engine there. Also the fact that the brakes hose loops over the fender, so if the fender gets packed with mud and breaks it locks the front brake.
The cable clutch is golden. Had mine 3 weeks now and wish all my bikes had that.
As a Formel owner of a 🐅 800XC and and now a 🐅 900 RP I just an confirm what has been said. I bought the crashbars from Touratech.
nice neutral and fair review Bret. Your sign off made me chuckle when you said to smile, because around here where I live and ride people always tell me that I ride w/ a smile. What culture of frowners we've nurtured. When you're on a bike, take a deep breath, look around (um, safely of course, lol) - now how does that NOT bring a smile to your face. My love of it anyway.
I bought my first Harley Davidson a 2018 Fat Bob FXFBS in 2018 and although I have to fill up every 120 miles I use it as my touring bike. But now I'm thinking about buying a tiger 900 GT pro or the rally pro. Why I'm not sure because I've never been an off-road rider but I thought I'd like to try to gravel roads even though I'm 72 years old.
Sold my 2014 Tiger 800 because I was never very comfortable on that bike. Maybe I will give the 900 a chance…
And you make me feel: too tired.
Look-do the demo, great. You did not address my point:
It is disrespectful to the ride-drop it down, pick it right back up.
Bikes are inanimate. They do not "naturally" lay on their side.
You have an accident or it gets knocked over. Pick it up, ASAP!.
Bad demo, poor instruction technique.
Respond again. [Consult an expert].
Go on, take it as designed-all roads and none. Get dirty!
Great review of this bike! It's my next one. I'm selling my 2022 Speedmaster because I'm moving to a country with lousy roads, so I need a dual sport. Love Triumph, so looks like this is the one. Thanks for doing an informative review.
Spoke comment: just because I hear this alot, spokes don't add support in the way you describe. Spokes only provide support in two directions lateral support and where the rim pulls at the spoke, not where it pushes at the spoke.
You will notice each spoke can slide out of the rim and hub in this direction so the do not add support in keeping the rim from bending at the edge on impact.
It's a small note but one that is even used in marketing to sell hd spokes and custom built wheels
I will do some more research beyond Triumph, BMW and Yamaha corp.
@@BretTkacs I've re-laced/ replaced many rims both KTM and BMW at my shop, I was waiting to bend my next KTM rim to do a video on this topic. It becomes quite obvious during the re-lacing process why the physics of spokes work the way they work but a demonstration is probably the best way to see how it all works.
@@TRCAdventures looking forward to it, I like my beliefs/understanding to be challenged. I enjoy learning something that changes what I believe or thought I understood. I will be waiting on your video and will do my research as well 👍😁
@@BretTkacs as I put some of these calculations to paper, an interesting point is coming up that may challenge my thinking, "the opposing forces on a ring differ from that of a sphere" if the opposing forces from the impact area can add strength to the ring or rim, because it is acting as a sphere because of the spokes on the opposing side of the wheel, this would add strength.
Ok I need to do more work on this, as the demonstration may be misleading, I may be wrong, actually that would be great! I better get to work on this, let me know what you find out