@@rickybobby8224 alton brown can show us an easy way to cook a meal on the rear bikes cargo plate thing🤔😜 while bret can help him figure out a way for the cooker to be tied into the engines power or battery
Bret, loved the review. Exactly what I expected from you. Honest, detailed, informative, clear and concise. When I rode the bike at IMS Carlisle, twice, and fell in love, I immediately noticed the "knee killers" as they've been affectionately dubbed by others. With my off road only back round, it was noticeable and painful almost immediately when standing up on the pegs. Very happy to see that they're easily removable with a couple bolts and have no ill-effect on the bike once removed. My only gripe with your review, you didn't go through any of the menu options on TFT display or how easy or difficult it is to use. Other than that, this review just solidifies my purchase decision. It's the top 3 ADV bike on my list, along with the Tuareg 660 and the Nordon 901. The T7 and the KTM 890 round out my top 5, but the other 3 are really speaking to me and I've only rode the Tiger 900 obviously because the other two aren't available yet.
I own two Yamaha's. A 1994 XT600E and a 2016 Tracer 700. Both great but was looking for something to replace my Tracer. I tried the KTM 790 which was fun but going back to my Tracer felt good. Same with the Africa Twin. Then I tried the Tiger 900 Rally Pro which was sensational. Triumph really perfectly designed the bike from A to Z. You mentioned it Bret even the Wind protection is great. Driving my Tracer home I would have just loved to turn around before the first corner and leave my Tracer at the dealer. The Tiger 900 is for me the modern successor of Yamaha XT600. I think you can't make a bigger compliment to a motorcycle. Thank you Bret I always love to watch your videos.
@@robsciuk729 probably accurate for most of us. But weve all seen him lift multiple bikes in other videos, this was effortless. Even compared to all the other times weve seen him lift a bike. . Extremely demonstrative of what he's saying about the bike if you ask me.
Wondering if the negative side of this is low ground clearance making low centre of gravity. Also exposed headers. He didnt touch on some key things for hard off road use that makes me curious.
This bike has a lot of the improvements I was looking for over my Tiger 800 xca. Two things kept me from wanting to move to a 900. The readouts on the dash are messy and difficult to read and the T plane crank on the engine. The 800 triple is just so smooth and nice for touring and does well enough off-road that I just can't see giving it up. It made the bike unique in the ADV class over the twins and now that's gone. Appreciate your honest reviews as always.
Other reviewers: I walked by this motorcycle therefore you should base your purchase on my reviews Bret: You want to know the guage of the headlight wiring? I got you
@@danmanthe9335 what annoys me the most is: “this bike is certainly the best for those long trips, based on all of the 15 minutes I rode it on the streets around the dealership”
Funny how you are the only one who mentions the painful plastic bars on the sides. I’ve had this bike for one day now and they already bothered me. As you said: it only takes 2x2 screws to fix it. Your review convinced me to get the bike without test riding. Very satisfied! Thanks.
I've just bought one! Moved on from my dear S1000RR and as such had no experience choosing an ADV bike. I did months of research and this one met all my needs at a really great price. Thanks for your review Bret, it's made me even happier with my choice. Warm hello from South Africa.
Sold my Panigale V2 and bought a 2021 900RP in Matte Green. Love the fact that it's a great all-rounder. Miss the character of the motors in the 800xc and Street Triple R I owned previously, but the 900 still rocks! a great ride in the twisties as well, despite the 21"front wheel. Cheers from Cape Town, South Africa.
Good and honest review in my opinion, owning a Rally Pro for 6 months I'd say you spot on, used it off road a fair bit and the best upgrade so far is putting some pirelli scorpion str rubber on it, a good dual option if you are going off road but want a fairly quiet ride there and stock rubber is alway limiting. 👍
Great info. I'm planning on getting my 900 RP later this year. I can't wait. SoCal and Northern Baja...mostly road, some off road and tons of "whatever comes my way".
Great review from a genuinely good person. I had the opportunity to meet Bret at a local show and he struck me as a guy that isn't stuck on himself and just loves what he does. Looking forward to seeing more of his videos from the Nepal trip. For now I'm just looking for info on my next bike. This Triumph is high on the list.
Sold! I was considering a Tiger 900 vs. a KTM 890 and was favouring the 900 for its equipment level and reliability but if Bret reckons the serious issue are to removable (and nil value-add) plastic parts then that a fantastic recommendation for buying a Rally Pro.
As of now this bike is on the top of my list to be my retirement bike here in two years. I agree with you though, it’s just a phenomenal bike! The quick shifter, ergos, even the way it sets off from a stop. This bike is amazing. Super easy to ride slow and track stand too!
I've the the 2021 Matte Green version of that bike, Bret, and absolutely love it. Thanks for a great review (I concur about the plastic "edging" for the knees).
Thanks for your honest review Bret! I own the GT model and I really love the bike. One word that you've used in your review, and which I totally agree with, (especially as a new rider) is that it's "forgiving." Have a safe trip to Nepal!
I’ve owned my tiger 900 Rally pro for 3 months now and I have no issues with it at all and also I hear people keep going on about the heat from the engine I can’t feel any from mine so don’t know what all the fuss is about Just a fantastic bike all round Well done Triumph 👍
Really glad to watch this review as I'm picking up Mt new 900 Rally pro next week. I had a 800xca for a few years now and looking forward to getting the 900 😂😂
Very happy with this bike. Regarding crash bars, I chose the skid plate combo from Outback Mototrek, it is very tough. There is an update for the switch off the engine
I have the 2019 Tiger 800 XCA and apart from the slightly lower weight on the 900 Rally Pro I am happy to stay with the older model. It suits my riding style and requirements. Thanks for your honest reviews Bret.
I have the 2018 XCA. I'm 6'4" & retired so I lowered the pegs & put on risers to save my knees, a longer gear lever for my big feet & windscreen extender for my big head. Plus H&B upper crash bars & altering the front indicators to fit inside the crash-bars. It's perfect for my adventure touring on decent gravel roads. If it died I'd replace it with a 900. I think everything Brett says more or less applies to both bikes. Great bike.
I had the same problem you described at the 11:20 mark with my Tiger 900 Rally Pro 2021. After an emergency stop, the bike tipped over to the left on the grass and those bars made a deep dent on the fuel tank and on the plastic piece you noted. All other parts that contacted the ground came out with just a little bit of dirt. Took the bike to the Triumph dealer and their personnel said there’s nothing wrong with the accessory. I said that the problem is not with the accessory per se, but the fact that it caused the very damage it was designed to prevent. Triumph left me in a vacuum...
This year I moved from a heavy BMW K1100 to a Tiger 800 Xrx - mainly so I would not have to always be worried about the occsional dirt track or cobblestone - and to shed some kilos. But the Tiger800 did so much more to me! I love her on tarmac, but suddenly I also find myself looking for gravel roads! Seems like - at 62 - I am becoming an Adventure rider now! (At least that´s the plan.) And the 900 Rally Pro is first on my list, as the 800Xrx may get a bit challenged, once I get on the TET in Sweden for instance. As far as the smooth delivery below 5.000rpm is concerned - I just love it. And instead of "not aggressive" I would call it "not as nervous" as eg the KTM890. But hey, maybe that´s the 62 years in me writing this... Thanks for the great review. Can´t wait to get my hands on this one!
It's a great ride and it is never too late to start the adventure. Just remember at our age maintaining our own fitness is much more important than when we were 30. Don't forget to work on you as well as on the bike. Safe adventures.
Wise words, indeed, Luis. And my bike kept reminding me on a daily basis, when I toured southern Sweden this year. So yes, I will keep that in mind! Training has begun ! Thanks for your 5houghts & safe riding!
I agree the traction control is very smooth and unintrusive. In Off-Road I could tell it was working, more by ear than feel, very confidence-inspiring for just tooling around on slick gravel. As soon as I started to feel the rear slip it the TC would catch it and keep it driving forward and the rear inline with the front. OR Pro is more fun but if you just want to travel standard OR will keep you moving confidently. The very linear and smooth fueling helps. I also appreciated that it drives well from very low RPM in first gear without sounding like it's lugging too much. Not many reviews mention it, but another advantage of OR and ORP is that the idle is increased to reduce the chance of stalling which is well thought out.
nice neutral and fair review Bret. Your sign off made me chuckle when you said to smile, because around here where I live and ride people always tell me that I ride w/ a smile. What culture of frowners we've nurtured. When you're on a bike, take a deep breath, look around (um, safely of course, lol) - now how does that NOT bring a smile to your face. My love of it anyway.
Thanks for the honest evaluation. As a Rally (non-Pro) owner I'm encouraged that some of the things I found I liked about the bike (traction control, ergonomics, etc) are echoed by you. Glad you got to enjoy the bike, sorry Triumph put such limited tires on it, lol
@stk0308 I'm really interested in purchasing one of the 900 Rally models next year. But i'm struggling with spending another $2k on the Pro version over the standard Rally when the only thing on the Pro I want is the Off Road Pro mode so I can shut off all the ABS, instead of just the rear on the reg Off Road mode. Having owned the standard Rally, have you found yourself wanting the Off Road Pro mode or regretting not purchasing the Rally Pro version over the standard Rally? I guess that also depends on how much and how serious your off roading is. I plan to definitely put the bike through its paces off road.
I've a 2016 800 kitten. LOVE LOVE LOVE it. It replaced my 2006 1200gs which I sold with 160K miles. It got too heavy for me to pick up when it took a nap. I have over 50K miles on her now. I'm not ready for another Motorbike, but when I am it will likely be the 900 here
This is a great review and the fact that you didn't find many flaws proves Triumph did their homework and improved on the 800. Great tips on the crash bars! A friend of mine has just acquired this bike with only 4K on it and he's excited and I'm excited for him since we ride together. Thanks again Bret for a spectacular review, see you soon!
Agree, a very good all-rounder. Plenty of power with all bells and whistles. The only thing I didn't like - not possible to change from road to offroad riding mode without stopping.
Just asking becuse I'm new to motorcycles, but is that a manufacturer thing or government regulation? For example, I know some governments require that if a bike turns off, when it starts again the ABS automatically turns back on.
@@csolivais1979 it's a Triumph thing with traction control. Loss of power to rear wheel in dirt is annoying. But the ABS issue could be Govt mandate in some countries i guess.
Great review overall. You can absolutely get the wheel spinning in off-road mode, that's the best way to learn how to drift. It will let you get a bit sideways but then stop you from going too far. Once you get confident then start drifting in off-road pro. Great bike off-road!
I own a 96 Tiger 900. While very little is relatable to the new bikes, I have been impressed by the build quality. The fasteners and adjoining parts seem massive and have made the service and maintenance of the bike enjoyable over the years. Pretty cool to hear that they seem to be sticking (to their guns) to build quality while others transition to cost driven measures. My 96 gets down the road just fine…paved or (preferably) not.
Great review! Being a tiger 800 owner and putting nearly 100k on it in 3 years. I'd love to try out one of those tiger 900s and see all the little tweaks and improvements
Hi Bret, great review, as we are all have got used to your 1st class content, keep going and have fun in Nepal!!! Your review echoed my 6500 km experience with the bike, off- and onroad. Two further remarks, controls are backlit, very useful in the dark (Hard Alpi Trail 2021 proven!!) and the crash protection supplied from Outback Mototek (bash plate and crash bars) is the lightest, most affordable and really good working -> tested! To make crash protection complete use Bark busters for the handle bar and you‘re set. Cheers Michael
Great video, Bret. I have been awaiting your take on this bike for months. I have a 2020 TT 900 RP and have added 26,000 miles to it in a year. I just returned from an 11,450 mile, 26 state trip, ending with the TAT, in five weeks’ time. I LOVE the bike, except for those plastic frame thingys, which I took off after 15,000 miles. It makes the ride so much more enjoyable. I have no complaints with the ride or performance of the bike, except for the lack of protection the OEM crash bars provide, , and the maintenance and cost of maintenance through the dealership network is $$$. I guess that’s what makes it a European bike. I recently purchased a Yamaha T7 to see if I can make it work for my needs as it’s simpler system and longer major service intervals would significantly benefit my maintenance knowledge. Thanks for the thorough review, seemingly also coming to the same conclusions I have found. 👍🏻
Great review of this bike! It's my next one. I'm selling my 2022 Speedmaster because I'm moving to a country with lousy roads, so I need a dual sport. Love Triumph, so looks like this is the one. Thanks for doing an informative review.
Thanks I've been waiting for a good review on this. I personally find the outside spoke design to be much easier to clean than traditional center spokes. Sudsy water and a wheel brush makes very quick and easy work of it as the spacing is wider than center spokes.
I bought Khaki Green Rally Pro back in September 2020. You do know the Khaki Green is the fastest one, right! 😂 Great bike and I absolutely love it. The one gripe I have, not included in this review, is the double 3D style rev counter when in the full screen TFT mode. This is a total waste of screen space IMO. Great review 👍
Thanks for this Bret, I have removed my tank finishers, and its much nicer standing up (I've put some foam tubing in to try and stop water/dirt ingress). I've also removed my Triumph Upper protection bars (I'll replace them with some aftermarket ones, but seen a few T900's with damaged tanks). Keep up the good work !
There just seems to be no good option. Triumph initial 2 mount points design is BAD. I damaged by subframe just below the beak on a low speed / low impact fall (not crash). the new 2023 version of the bars remain to be field tested. It has a 3rd mount point which is good but it still attaches to the subframe under the beak. Almost all 3rd party bars had issues with bolt breakages.
Thanks, Brett. Great video. If you drop your bike at a medium slow speed the OEM upper engine guard will dent your gas tank, which is what happened to me.
@@kee7678 No, I've got the same old ones (that I'm not very happy with). If you get them, please let us know how they seem (hopefully you won't test them out!).
Nice job as always. I sold my 900 RP for two reasons. 1. Plastic/frame under tank hit my legs while standing. Get quiet painful. 2. Vibrations through the bars that put my hands to sleep..tried rubber mounts and bar ends…didn’t help. Lots to love about this bike…but that frame bar is a huge oversight if you like to ride standing up.
Did you spend most time above 6k rpm? That's about the only time I notice vibrations is in the higher revs. But I also am used to riding thumpers and unbalanced singles.
I removed the plastic frame guards. Was a night/day difference. I haven’t had an issue with bar vibration over 26,000 miles, other than tight/sore muscles on long mileage (650+) days.
I don't know if there's a word for the opposite of buyer remorse but just paid for the khaki matt green colorway today. Delivery ETA 1 week. Taking it off the showroom floor into a 3.6k km ride.
Great review. I demo’d this bike at the Florida IMS and you are right - overall a great bike (although I didnt go off road). Unfortunately, I just bought a Tracer 900 GT so it will be a while before I am ready for a new bike. PS - great to meet you that day in person.
Thanks Brett - great review. I own a GT pro and if you don’t wear full gear (I.e. only a denim) the heat off the engine totally roasts your legs and knees. This is great in winter or colder climates, but just horrible in hot climates like here in South Africa. So much so that I bought and fitted non-Triumph deflectors which helped to an extent. However, this is my only gripe with the design - other than that it’s a fantastic bike !!
Anybody else think at first that Bret really hit the big time with his logo almost as big as Triumph's on the semi trailer? That being said, I wouldn't be all that surprised if it were actually on the trailer. Bret is excellent at what he does!
Great review! I owned one and agree with everything that you mentioned. I ended up going back to the 1200GS, mainly because I'm more street oriented and also I felt the tiger lacked a bit of character in the engine. Love my boxer.
I'm curious about how the Tiger 900RP compares to your r1200GS off road. I have a '17 1200gs and really like it, but would consider the Tiger if was a bit better on dirt and gravel roads, climbs and moderately technical baby head and loose rock terrain. Thougts?
@@superflycatchermtb To be honest I'm probably not the best person to ask. My off road use is limited to the more moderate stuff. I did notice more stability with the 21“ front. I do find the 12GS easier to pick up though. When I put my fully fueled RP on the scales it was 505 lbs, so it's not exactly light.
@@superflycatchermtb I had a 900RP last year, this year I ride a 1250GS. And, I have happened to ride exactly the same road on both in very similar conditions. About 80km of pretty bumpy gravel. Although my offroad skills are very basic, the average speed on the Triumph was ~20km/h higher then on the GS. The Tiger handles better plus the suspension feels much more reliable. The GS seemed too heavy and it tend to slip to outside of the turn while the Tiger just "carved" into. Possibly the 21" front wheel is much more suitable for such rides.
Good and honest review 🙂 l don't think thatl have ever watched a full review of another brand bike than l have, but you kept me interested enough to watch the whole video 🙂
Spoke comment: just because I hear this alot, spokes don't add support in the way you describe. Spokes only provide support in two directions lateral support and where the rim pulls at the spoke, not where it pushes at the spoke. You will notice each spoke can slide out of the rim and hub in this direction so the do not add support in keeping the rim from bending at the edge on impact. It's a small note but one that is even used in marketing to sell hd spokes and custom built wheels
@@BretTkacs I've re-laced/ replaced many rims both KTM and BMW at my shop, I was waiting to bend my next KTM rim to do a video on this topic. It becomes quite obvious during the re-lacing process why the physics of spokes work the way they work but a demonstration is probably the best way to see how it all works.
@@TRCAdventures looking forward to it, I like my beliefs/understanding to be challenged. I enjoy learning something that changes what I believe or thought I understood. I will be waiting on your video and will do my research as well 👍😁
@@BretTkacs as I put some of these calculations to paper, an interesting point is coming up that may challenge my thinking, "the opposing forces on a ring differ from that of a sphere" if the opposing forces from the impact area can add strength to the ring or rim, because it is acting as a sphere because of the spokes on the opposing side of the wheel, this would add strength. Ok I need to do more work on this, as the demonstration may be misleading, I may be wrong, actually that would be great! I better get to work on this, let me know what you find out
Bret, I love your videos and expert advice, and that you're willing to share with us via RUclips. This was a super glowing review, as was your review of other bikes (T7), so I am curious, how does this bike stack up to the middle weight adventure bike competition? Where would you rank it compared the T7, KTM 890, BMW 850, etc?
I really like this bike. I'm had a few triumphs, including a 60's Bonneville (stolen, I would have never sold it), a 955 Daytona, a speed triple, and for a very short time even a new Bonneville. Always wanted a Tiger. I am thinking my next steed will be one of these. Giddy up!!!
Puig makes an excellent aftermarket windscreen for taller riders. I'm 6'3" and my Tiger 1200 would probably work for 6'1" and below with its OEM screen. Maybe 6 foot even.
I have the crash bars from SW-Motech. Bikes been dropped a few times including a low speed drop on asphalt when my wife was riding it and they completely protected the bike. I highly recommend them!
Pretty on the same page that I felt when I had a test ride of Tiger 900 rally pro. Thanks for sharing your insight and thank you so much for your professional review on this motorcycle!!
I own a rally pro and am very happy with it. I have not been off-road with it, mainly because I have next to no off road experience and with a 29” inseam I am always up on the balls of my feet at best, and secondly I am waiting till I need to replace the tyres. Did you use the standard road biased tyres off road? If so how did they fair? I currently work in Germany down near the Alps so have managed to do some nice rides, even a 15 hour stint from Munich to the midlands (UK) taking in 5 countries. Part of me thinks I should get a smaller bike to use of road to gain experience! What’s your thoughts on that? Glad you enjoyed the Triumph Ian Back on Two Wheels
I love my Yamaha Super Tenere, but admit it's a handful at times. I've been thinking about down sizing, but 700 is too far. This looks like a good exchange. I had to replace the Ten's handlebars with the Pro-taper because the down and back sweep of the stock bar was highly uncomfortable on long rides and near impossible in a standing position.
Great review!...as for the new rims packing up with mud, nothing was worse than my ol' Bultaco that had shouldered Akronts.i could fill plant pots after a days worth of slogging!😂
I went for a test ride on a first generation Tiger and found the suspension soggy and power soft off the bottom. I preferred my gen 1 Oilhead. A lot more choice now.
Nice review. I was looking to swap my 790 for the Tiger 900 RP (had a few more issues than yourself). The Tiger looked like the closest match. Only thing stopping me was no stock in Australia. Now lock-down has just finished here i'll have to see if I can find a test ride.
I’m waiting 4 months, so far, for a new tank to arrive (Australian delivery, Tiger 900 GT). My crash bars & a heap of other parts took 6 months to arrive.
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Bret. You’re the Alton Brown of motorcycling. Smart, witty, informative..keep crushing the videos dude.
LoL...dude..that's perfectly well put😁😂🤔👍
Totally, now how do we get Alton and Bret to collaborate on some sort of travel show!!!
@@rickybobby8224 alton brown can show us an easy way to cook a meal on the rear bikes cargo plate thing🤔😜 while bret can help him figure out a way for the cooker to be tied into the engines power or battery
@@motoryzen i'm willing to sign on as a producer if you are.
Give that man a wet wipe lol
The only person who is Zack level engaging and Ari level technical.
gotta love all 3!
and Chris from bike world!
Don't forget to mix in a Ryan F9 comparison too haha
That's an insult to Zach and Ari
Bret, loved the review. Exactly what I expected from you. Honest, detailed, informative, clear and concise. When I rode the bike at IMS Carlisle, twice, and fell in love, I immediately noticed the "knee killers" as they've been affectionately dubbed by others. With my off road only back round, it was noticeable and painful almost immediately when standing up on the pegs. Very happy to see that they're easily removable with a couple bolts and have no ill-effect on the bike once removed. My only gripe with your review, you didn't go through any of the menu options on TFT display or how easy or difficult it is to use. Other than that, this review just solidifies my purchase decision. It's the top 3 ADV bike on my list, along with the Tuareg 660 and the Nordon 901. The T7 and the KTM 890 round out my top 5, but the other 3 are really speaking to me and I've only rode the Tiger 900 obviously because the other two aren't available yet.
Same..I did a TON of research over 1 year. Planning on this 900 RP later this year.
I own two Yamaha's. A 1994 XT600E and a 2016 Tracer 700. Both great but was looking for something to replace my Tracer. I tried the KTM 790 which was fun but going back to my Tracer felt good. Same with the Africa Twin. Then I tried the Tiger 900 Rally Pro which was sensational. Triumph really perfectly designed the bike from A to Z. You mentioned it Bret even the Wind protection is great. Driving my Tracer home I would have just loved to turn around before the first corner and leave my Tracer at the dealer. The Tiger 900 is for me the modern successor of Yamaha XT600. I think you can't make a bigger compliment to a motorcycle. Thank you Bret I always love to watch your videos.
Holy smokes, that lift was effortless
Here is the video on the lifting techniques ruclips.net/video/C4NFXz8Y73c/видео.html
Mostly effortless because Bret did it, not me 😀
@@robsciuk729 probably accurate for most of us. But weve all seen him lift multiple bikes in other videos, this was effortless. Even compared to all the other times weve seen him lift a bike. . Extremely demonstrative of what he's saying about the bike if you ask me.
Wondering if the negative side of this is low ground clearance making low centre of gravity. Also exposed headers. He didnt touch on some key things for hard off road use that makes me curious.
This bike has a lot of the improvements I was looking for over my Tiger 800 xca. Two things kept me from wanting to move to a 900. The readouts on the dash are messy and difficult to read and the T plane crank on the engine. The 800 triple is just so smooth and nice for touring and does well enough off-road that I just can't see giving it up. It made the bike unique in the ADV class over the twins and now that's gone. Appreciate your honest reviews as always.
A fair and honest review, from a trusted source, one cannot ask for more. 🎩-Tip Mr Tkacs.
Finally a thorough review from someone I trust that has ridden the bike for more than an afternoon! :D Only made me want it more lol
Other reviewers: I walked by this motorcycle therefore you should base your purchase on my reviews
Bret: You want to know the guage of the headlight wiring? I got you
@@danmanthe9335 what annoys me the most is: “this bike is certainly the best for those long trips, based on all of the 15 minutes I rode it on the streets around the dealership”
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@@danmanthe9335 🤣
@@rafasoaresms 🤣
Great review and love the details such as improving the crash guards.
Funny how you are the only one who mentions the painful plastic bars on the sides. I’ve had this bike for one day now and they already bothered me. As you said: it only takes 2x2 screws to fix it. Your review convinced me to get the bike without test riding. Very satisfied! Thanks.
So were you able to accomplish a fix with those annoying panels that stick out because I was looking at buying the 2023 model
@@TheZakkmylde It was very easy to remove them.
I've just bought one! Moved on from my dear S1000RR and as such had no experience choosing an ADV bike. I did months of research and this one met all my needs at a really great price. Thanks for your review Bret, it's made me even happier with my choice. Warm hello from South Africa.
Sold my Panigale V2 and bought a 2021 900RP in Matte Green. Love the fact that it's a great all-rounder. Miss the character of the motors in the 800xc and Street Triple R I owned previously, but the 900 still rocks! a great ride in the twisties as well, despite the 21"front wheel. Cheers from Cape Town, South Africa.
@@sedickjappie9643 Lovely. I got the same colour. Safe rides to you.
Good and honest review in my opinion, owning a Rally Pro for 6 months I'd say you spot on, used it off road a fair bit and the best upgrade so far is putting some pirelli scorpion str rubber on it, a good dual option if you are going off road but want a fairly quiet ride there and stock rubber is alway limiting. 👍
Great info. I'm planning on getting my 900 RP later this year. I can't wait. SoCal and Northern Baja...mostly road, some off road and tons of "whatever comes my way".
Bret, this is the best review of this bike that I've seen. Thanks for getting down onto the ground for those detailed explanations and close-up shots!
Love every single Brett Tkacs review. Very informative, entertaining, concise, succinct. Love your work Brett!!
Appreciate your enthusiasm…not always easy when you do it for a living.
Lucky for me I train and take riders on international adventures for a living. I do videos as a public service 😉
@@BretTkacs easy to be humble when you're one of a kind! love you videos! they're very informative and your attitude is AAA+++
Wow, I wasn’t expecting such an honest review since your name is on the Triumph Transport. Thanks for a great review.
Great review from a genuinely good person. I had the opportunity to meet Bret at a local show and he struck me as a guy that isn't stuck on himself and just loves what he does. Looking forward to seeing more of his videos from the Nepal trip. For now I'm just looking for info on my next bike. This Triumph is high on the list.
Well, one of the best reviews we have seen here in YT. Thanks!
Sold! I was considering a Tiger 900 vs. a KTM 890 and was favouring the 900 for its equipment level and reliability but if Bret reckons the serious issue are to removable (and nil value-add) plastic parts then that a fantastic recommendation for buying a Rally Pro.
Glad you called out the Triumph crash bars. Nice review!
Now that I just installed the OEM Bars I feel stupid.
So what are the best options to add upper crash bars on an RP??
@@ottomatic7823 same
As of now this bike is on the top of my list to be my retirement bike here in two years. I agree with you though, it’s just a phenomenal bike! The quick shifter, ergos, even the way it sets off from a stop. This bike is amazing. Super easy to ride slow and track stand too!
I've the the 2021 Matte Green version of that bike, Bret, and absolutely love it. Thanks for a great review (I concur about the plastic "edging" for the knees).
Me Too, I've had it actually catch on my knee braces . But on and off road the bike just works.
Thanks for your honest review Bret! I own the GT model and I really love the bike. One word that you've used in your review, and which I totally agree with, (especially as a new rider) is that it's "forgiving." Have a safe trip to Nepal!
I’ve owned my tiger 900 Rally pro for 3 months now and I have no issues with it at all and also I hear people keep going on about the heat from the engine I can’t feel any from mine so don’t know what all the fuss is about
Just a fantastic bike all round
Well done Triumph 👍
Really glad to watch this review as I'm picking up Mt new 900 Rally pro next week. I had a 800xca for a few years now and looking forward to getting the 900 😂😂
Very happy with this bike. Regarding crash bars, I chose the skid plate combo from Outback Mototrek, it is very tough. There is an update for the switch off the engine
Agreed
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Have u dropped the bike? Had any problems?
@@giwrgosvirlas2747 not yet, at least with it. I tested it on my previous bike
I have the 2019 Tiger 800 XCA and apart from the slightly lower weight on the 900 Rally Pro I am happy to stay with the older model. It suits my riding style and requirements. Thanks for your honest reviews Bret.
I really liked my older 800 (2014)
I have the 2018 XCA. I'm 6'4" & retired so I lowered the pegs & put on risers to save my knees, a longer gear lever for my big feet & windscreen extender for my big head. Plus H&B upper crash bars & altering the front indicators to fit inside the crash-bars. It's perfect for my adventure touring on decent gravel roads. If it died I'd replace it with a 900. I think everything Brett says more or less applies to both bikes. Great bike.
I had the same problem you described at the 11:20 mark with my Tiger 900 Rally Pro 2021. After an emergency stop, the bike tipped over to the left on the grass and those bars made a deep dent on the fuel tank and on the plastic piece you noted. All other parts that contacted the ground came out with just a little bit of dirt. Took the bike to the Triumph dealer and their personnel said there’s nothing wrong with the accessory. I said that the problem is not with the accessory per se, but the fact that it caused the very damage it was designed to prevent. Triumph left me in a vacuum...
That's @#$^#% man. did they get you the new ones?? Added support to their new upper crash bars?
This year I moved from a heavy BMW K1100 to a Tiger 800 Xrx - mainly so I would not have to always be worried about the occsional dirt track or cobblestone - and to shed some kilos.
But the Tiger800 did so much more to me! I love her on tarmac, but suddenly I also find myself looking for gravel roads!
Seems like - at 62 - I am becoming an Adventure rider now! (At least that´s the plan.) And the 900 Rally Pro is first on my list, as the 800Xrx may get a bit challenged, once I get on the TET in Sweden for instance.
As far as the smooth delivery below 5.000rpm is concerned - I just love it. And instead of "not aggressive" I would call it "not as nervous" as eg the KTM890. But hey, maybe that´s the 62 years in me writing this...
Thanks for the great review. Can´t wait to get my hands on this one!
It's a great ride and it is never too late to start the adventure. Just remember at our age maintaining our own fitness is much more important than when we were 30. Don't forget to work on you as well as on the bike. Safe adventures.
Wise words, indeed, Luis. And my bike kept reminding me on a daily basis, when I toured southern Sweden this year.
So yes, I will keep that in mind!
Training has begun ! Thanks for your 5houghts & safe riding!
Great review...I love mine!
I agree the traction control is very smooth and unintrusive. In Off-Road I could tell it was working, more by ear than feel, very confidence-inspiring for just tooling around on slick gravel. As soon as I started to feel the rear slip it the TC would catch it and keep it driving forward and the rear inline with the front. OR Pro is more fun but if you just want to travel standard OR will keep you moving confidently. The very linear and smooth fueling helps. I also appreciated that it drives well from very low RPM in first gear without sounding like it's lugging too much. Not many reviews mention it, but another advantage of OR and ORP is that the idle is increased to reduce the chance of stalling which is well thought out.
nice neutral and fair review Bret. Your sign off made me chuckle when you said to smile, because around here where I live and ride people always tell me that I ride w/ a smile. What culture of frowners we've nurtured. When you're on a bike, take a deep breath, look around (um, safely of course, lol) - now how does that NOT bring a smile to your face. My love of it anyway.
Thanks for this. I love a longer-term review, as opposed to the one-day impression as on the legacy motorcycle magazine tests.
Thanks for the honest evaluation. As a Rally (non-Pro) owner I'm encouraged that some of the things I found I liked about the bike (traction control, ergonomics, etc) are echoed by you. Glad you got to enjoy the bike, sorry Triumph put such limited tires on it, lol
Don't they offer off road tyres at no cost. Bmw do. I think the f850gs offers karoo3 or A41's
@@chrisredfield3240 No way.
@stk0308 I'm really interested in purchasing one of the 900 Rally models next year. But i'm struggling with spending another $2k on the Pro version over the standard Rally when the only thing on the Pro I want is the Off Road Pro mode so I can shut off all the ABS, instead of just the rear on the reg Off Road mode. Having owned the standard Rally, have you found yourself wanting the Off Road Pro mode or regretting not purchasing the Rally Pro version over the standard Rally? I guess that also depends on how much and how serious your off roading is. I plan to definitely put the bike through its paces off road.
I've a 2016 800 kitten. LOVE LOVE LOVE it. It replaced my 2006 1200gs which I sold with 160K miles. It got too heavy for me to pick up when it took a nap. I have over 50K miles on her now. I'm not ready for another Motorbike, but when I am it will likely be the 900 here
This is a great review and the fact that you didn't find many flaws proves Triumph did their homework and improved on the 800. Great tips on the crash bars!
A friend of mine has just acquired this bike with only 4K on it and he's excited and I'm excited for him since we ride together.
Thanks again Bret for a spectacular review, see you soon!
The biggest complaint was it was almost boring easy to ride, a complaint I often reserve for Honda's
Agree, a very good all-rounder. Plenty of power with all bells and whistles. The only thing I didn't like - not possible to change from road to offroad riding mode without stopping.
Agreed. I run a 2020 Tiger 800 and this is a pain in the arse. Would have thought the 900 would allow the offroad transition on the fly.
Just asking becuse I'm new to motorcycles, but is that a manufacturer thing or government regulation?
For example, I know some governments require that if a bike turns off, when it starts again the ABS automatically turns back on.
@@csolivais1979 it's a Triumph thing with traction control. Loss of power to rear wheel in dirt is annoying. But the ABS issue could be Govt mandate in some countries i guess.
Great review overall. You can absolutely get the wheel spinning in off-road mode, that's the best way to learn how to drift. It will let you get a bit sideways but then stop you from going too far. Once you get confident then start drifting in off-road pro. Great bike off-road!
Have a great time in Nepal! I just bought this bike and am happy with your take on it.
I own a 96 Tiger 900. While very little is relatable to the new bikes, I have been impressed by the build quality. The fasteners and adjoining parts seem massive and have made the service and maintenance of the bike enjoyable over the years. Pretty cool to hear that they seem to be sticking (to their guns) to build quality while others transition to cost driven measures. My 96 gets down the road just fine…paved or (preferably) not.
Great review!
Being a tiger 800 owner and putting nearly 100k on it in 3 years. I'd love to try out one of those tiger 900s and see all the little tweaks and improvements
Hi Bret, great review, as we are all have got used to your 1st class content, keep going and have fun in Nepal!!!
Your review echoed my 6500 km experience with the bike, off- and onroad. Two further remarks, controls are backlit, very useful in the dark (Hard Alpi Trail 2021 proven!!) and the crash protection supplied from Outback Mototek (bash plate and crash bars) is the lightest, most affordable and really good working -> tested! To make crash protection complete use Bark busters for the handle bar and you‘re set.
Cheers
Michael
If I owned this bike Outback Mototek would be my choice.
The cable clutch is golden. Had mine 3 weeks now and wish all my bikes had that.
Bret can sell you anything.
He will make u fall in love with every motorcycle while pointing out even tiniest of niggles.
Genius level stuff man.
Great video, Bret. I have been awaiting your take on this bike for months. I have a 2020 TT 900 RP and have added 26,000 miles to it in a year. I just returned from an 11,450 mile, 26 state trip, ending with the TAT, in five weeks’ time. I LOVE the bike, except for those plastic frame thingys, which I took off after 15,000 miles. It makes the ride so much more enjoyable. I have no complaints with the ride or performance of the bike, except for the lack of protection the OEM crash bars provide, , and the maintenance and cost of maintenance through the dealership network is $$$. I guess that’s what makes it a European bike. I recently purchased a Yamaha T7 to see if I can make it work for my needs as it’s simpler system and longer major service intervals would significantly benefit my maintenance knowledge. Thanks for the thorough review, seemingly also coming to the same conclusions I have found. 👍🏻
I love the T7...
Another great review. Couldn’t help notice how fast your subscribers numbers are going up. A blink and you’ll hit 100k. Congratulations!
I hope so 😀
Another great review with some good insights! Thank you Brett!
This is how a motorcycle review should be done. Excellent!
Great review! Straith to the point, covered all the important things, showed the bike from all different angles. Brilliant job! ;)
Great review of this bike! It's my next one. I'm selling my 2022 Speedmaster because I'm moving to a country with lousy roads, so I need a dual sport. Love Triumph, so looks like this is the one. Thanks for doing an informative review.
Thanks I've been waiting for a good review on this. I personally find the outside spoke design to be much easier to clean than traditional center spokes. Sudsy water and a wheel brush makes very quick and easy work of it as the spacing is wider than center spokes.
I bought Khaki Green Rally Pro back in September 2020.
You do know the Khaki Green is the fastest one, right! 😂
Great bike and I absolutely love it.
The one gripe I have, not included in this review, is the double 3D style rev counter when in the full screen TFT mode.
This is a total waste of screen space IMO.
Great review 👍
Thanks for this Bret, I have removed my tank finishers, and its much nicer standing up (I've put some foam tubing in to try and stop water/dirt ingress). I've also removed my Triumph Upper protection bars (I'll replace them with some aftermarket ones, but seen a few T900's with damaged tanks). Keep up the good work !
There just seems to be no good option. Triumph initial 2 mount points design is BAD. I damaged by subframe just below the beak on a low speed / low impact fall (not crash). the new 2023 version of the bars remain to be field tested. It has a 3rd mount point which is good but it still attaches to the subframe under the beak. Almost all 3rd party bars had issues with bolt breakages.
Thanks, Brett. Great video. If you drop your bike at a medium slow speed the OEM upper engine guard will dent your gas tank, which is what happened to me.
Did you get the new/improved Tiger upper bars yet? I"m told their much better and added support.
@@kee7678 No, I've got the same old ones (that I'm not very happy with). If you get them, please let us know how they seem (hopefully you won't test them out!).
@@3ftDeepChannel I've heared the bolts snap on upper bars!?
So professional and articulate as usual. Thanks much !
Nice job as always. I sold my 900 RP for two reasons.
1. Plastic/frame under tank hit my legs while standing. Get quiet painful.
2. Vibrations through the bars that put my hands to sleep..tried rubber mounts and bar ends…didn’t help.
Lots to love about this bike…but that frame bar is a huge oversight if you like to ride standing up.
1. Remove the thing
2. Use proper handle bar weight
@@donkeizluv
Thx…but did that and more..no better.
Did you spend most time above 6k rpm? That's about the only time I notice vibrations is in the higher revs. But I also am used to riding thumpers and unbalanced singles.
I removed the plastic frame guards. Was a night/day difference. I haven’t had an issue with bar vibration over 26,000 miles, other than tight/sore muscles on long mileage (650+) days.
Great VERY informative review. No BS - ie, HP, torque, etc.. Just the real “need to know” stuff. Thanks 🙏🏻
I don't know if there's a word for the opposite of buyer remorse but just paid for the khaki matt green colorway today. Delivery ETA 1 week. Taking it off the showroom floor into a 3.6k km ride.
Awesome job on this review Bret!
I absolutely love mine❤❤❤🐯🐯🐯
Got mine on order - March 2022 👌🏼
Great review. I demo’d this bike at the Florida IMS and you are right - overall a great bike (although I didnt go off road). Unfortunately, I just bought a Tracer 900 GT so it will be a while before I am ready for a new bike.
PS - great to meet you that day in person.
Thanks for reviewing this bike!
Thanks Brett - great review.
I own a GT pro and if you don’t wear full gear (I.e. only a denim) the heat off the engine totally roasts your legs and knees. This is great in winter or colder climates, but just horrible in hot climates like here in South Africa. So much so that I bought and fitted non-Triumph deflectors which helped to an extent.
However, this is my only gripe with the design - other than that it’s a fantastic bike !!
Could you provide the details those deflectors?
@@bob5585 Any info on those ??
Anybody else think at first that Bret really hit the big time with his logo almost as big as Triumph's on the semi trailer? That being said, I wouldn't be all that surprised if it were actually on the trailer. Bret is excellent at what he does!
I thought that was good placement when I did that in editing 😂
Brilliant as always
Ah shucks... ☺️
As always your review matters a lot…point to point detailing. Superb..🤟🏻
😁smile while you ride because attitude matters.
Very thorough review - definitely a competitive middleweight adventure bike.
Great review! I owned one and agree with everything that you mentioned. I ended up going back to the 1200GS, mainly because I'm more street oriented and also I felt the tiger lacked a bit of character in the engine. Love my boxer.
I'm curious about how the Tiger 900RP compares to your r1200GS off road. I have a '17 1200gs and really like it, but would consider the Tiger if was a bit better on dirt and gravel roads, climbs and moderately technical baby head and loose rock terrain. Thougts?
@@superflycatchermtb To be honest I'm probably not the best person to ask. My off road use is limited to the more moderate stuff. I did notice more stability with the 21“ front. I do find the 12GS easier to pick up though. When I put my fully fueled RP on the scales it was 505 lbs, so it's not exactly light.
@@superflycatchermtb I had a 900RP last year, this year I ride a 1250GS. And, I have happened to ride exactly the same road on both in very similar conditions. About 80km of pretty bumpy gravel. Although my offroad skills are very basic, the average speed on the Triumph was ~20km/h higher then on the GS. The Tiger handles better plus the suspension feels much more reliable. The GS seemed too heavy and it tend to slip to outside of the turn while the Tiger just "carved" into. Possibly the 21" front wheel is much more suitable for such rides.
@@superflycatchermtb different platforms for sure. The Tiger gets the nod in most situations over the 1200/1250 GS
Rode this bike in Dallas at the IMS show. Great bike!
Great review, Bret!
Good and honest review 🙂 l don't think thatl have ever watched a full review of another brand bike than l have, but you kept me interested enough to watch the whole video 🙂
That's great!!! Thanks for the feedback
Spoke comment: just because I hear this alot, spokes don't add support in the way you describe. Spokes only provide support in two directions lateral support and where the rim pulls at the spoke, not where it pushes at the spoke.
You will notice each spoke can slide out of the rim and hub in this direction so the do not add support in keeping the rim from bending at the edge on impact.
It's a small note but one that is even used in marketing to sell hd spokes and custom built wheels
I will do some more research beyond Triumph, BMW and Yamaha corp.
@@BretTkacs I've re-laced/ replaced many rims both KTM and BMW at my shop, I was waiting to bend my next KTM rim to do a video on this topic. It becomes quite obvious during the re-lacing process why the physics of spokes work the way they work but a demonstration is probably the best way to see how it all works.
@@TRCAdventures looking forward to it, I like my beliefs/understanding to be challenged. I enjoy learning something that changes what I believe or thought I understood. I will be waiting on your video and will do my research as well 👍😁
@@BretTkacs as I put some of these calculations to paper, an interesting point is coming up that may challenge my thinking, "the opposing forces on a ring differ from that of a sphere" if the opposing forces from the impact area can add strength to the ring or rim, because it is acting as a sphere because of the spokes on the opposing side of the wheel, this would add strength.
Ok I need to do more work on this, as the demonstration may be misleading, I may be wrong, actually that would be great! I better get to work on this, let me know what you find out
Bret, I love your videos and expert advice, and that you're willing to share with us via RUclips. This was a super glowing review, as was your review of other bikes (T7), so I am curious, how does this bike stack up to the middle weight adventure bike competition? Where would you rank it compared the T7, KTM 890, BMW 850, etc?
He sold his 790 and bought a T7.
I really like this bike. I'm had a few triumphs, including a 60's Bonneville (stolen, I would have never sold it), a 955 Daytona, a speed triple, and for a very short time even a new Bonneville. Always wanted a Tiger. I am thinking my next steed will be one of these. Giddy up!!!
Puig makes an excellent aftermarket windscreen for taller riders. I'm 6'3" and my Tiger 1200 would probably work for 6'1" and below with its OEM screen. Maybe 6 foot even.
I have the crash bars from SW-Motech. Bikes been dropped a few times including a low speed drop on asphalt when my wife was riding it and they completely protected the bike. I highly recommend them!
Great review. I love my 900 RP, and 'Yes' the first thing I did was take off those little plastic thingies and toss them in the trash. :-)
I have heard other similar complaints. But I think the simple solution is to have longer inseams. I'm a 36" inseam @ 6'3", I feel nothing :)
Pretty on the same page that I felt when I had a test ride of Tiger 900 rally pro. Thanks for sharing your insight and thank you so much for your professional review on this motorcycle!!
Nice to hear they've sorted the weight distribution. I had a first gen 900 (the T4 885) & then a 955, & they were both absurdly top-heavy.
The 800 tiger felt top heavy. The tiger explorer 1200 was terrible dropping it felt inevitable.
I own a rally pro and am very happy with it.
I have not been off-road with it, mainly because I have next to no off road experience and with a 29” inseam I am always up on the balls of my feet at best, and secondly I am waiting till I need to replace the tyres.
Did you use the standard road biased tyres off road? If so how did they fair?
I currently work in Germany down near the Alps so have managed to do some nice rides, even a 15 hour stint from Munich to the midlands (UK) taking in 5 countries.
Part of me thinks I should get a smaller bike to use of road to gain experience! What’s your thoughts on that?
Glad you enjoyed the Triumph
Ian
Back on Two Wheels
Pratical approaches, Gr8 vid.
Love this! Thank you... I have one on order for a January delivery!
How do you put one on delivery? I'm trying to contact a dealership but they are not answering and won't tell me more about ordering/cost until later.
That was awesome. To much fun!
I love my Yamaha Super Tenere, but admit it's a handful at times. I've been thinking about down sizing, but 700 is too far. This looks like a good exchange. I had to replace the Ten's handlebars with the Pro-taper because the down and back sweep of the stock bar was highly uncomfortable on long rides and near impossible in a standing position.
Well done Bret.. maybe i like more the Africa Twin .. i am looking forward for the new Transalp .. it will come out soon i hope .. Hi from Italy
Another great review. Thanks
As a Formel owner of a 🐅 800XC and and now a 🐅 900 RP I just an confirm what has been said. I bought the crashbars from Touratech.
I have never seen anyone so comfortable on a motorcycle.
🙏 thanks
Most people also not going to notice minute details about this bike that you pointed out.
Nice review bro watching here from Philippines
Great video, great bike!
Great bike (I have ridden it) and even better review.
Hey Bret, nice review. Given the option to choose between Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro and Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports, which one will you keep?
Great review!! Expecting to see the new Triumph 1200... I think it will be a big competitor to the GS
I think it will be competition to the AT and new 1290...
Great review!...as for the new rims packing up with mud, nothing was worse than my ol' Bultaco that had shouldered Akronts.i could fill plant pots after a days worth of slogging!😂
I went for a test ride on a first generation Tiger and found the suspension soggy and power soft off the bottom. I preferred my gen 1 Oilhead. A lot more choice now.
Now I want one even more.
Nice review. I was looking to swap my 790 for the Tiger 900 RP (had a few more issues than yourself). The Tiger looked like the closest match. Only thing stopping me was no stock in Australia. Now lock-down has just finished here i'll have to see if I can find a test ride.
I’m waiting 4 months, so far, for a new tank to arrive (Australian delivery, Tiger 900 GT). My crash bars & a heap of other parts took 6 months to arrive.