I think Boruto answered what Orochimaru did to train Sasuke, because we see it in Sasukes training methods. He tells Boruto he has taught all he knows, but he taught few to no jutsus, only how to use chakra and figure out how to make techniques
@@MoDeLi370 I think he is coming from the fact that Sakura came out most like her teacher and had the most progress as a student The problem I have with saying Naruto had better taijutsu after the timeskip is taijutsu is always naturally gonna get better If u train everyday Especially cause Naruto is that a hand to hand combat type of Shinobi Now when u look at Sakura Her healing was on another level Her strength was elite And overall she grew alot more as a Shinobi compared to Naruto If we look at it Naruto had so much more potential Even smth like him being able to use the rasengan without a shadow clone would've been enough I love the pain arc and wouldn't change anything about it But realistically Naruto could've learned sage mode again I wouldn't change anything and I would hold make Naruto learn sage mode after jiraiya's death But if we are being real he could have Also I found it weird that Naruto had zero ability to tap into kuramas Chakra not even a little bit In fact he had more control over it in part 1 of the of series Anyway my point is that Naruto's timeskip had so much potential and was a bit disappointing but I understand why cause they wanted to save stuff like sage mode,kcm, rasenshuriken for the show so we can experience it But smth as little as him being able to use rasengan without a shadow clone would've been enough tbh
Nah, Sasuke came out of the timeskip really strong. He had shape control which is pretty uncommon, his chidori could do a bunch of different things from chidori senbon to chidori stream. He also didn't use it until the Itachi fight but he implied he had Kirin when Team 7 pulled up, I will give you that Sakura was literally useless and she came outta the timeskip able to actually help. EDIT: Nick said Sasuke would have been largely the same iin the video but I doubt he would have had shape control over chidori cause Kakashi couldn't even do that and he created the jutsu. Naruto fr learned nothing, all he could do was make a bigger rasengan and control up to 3 tails which isnt much, all jiraiya taught naruto was chakra control. At the end of part 1 Naruto was already controlling 1 tails so in 2 years he can control 2 more and like I said make his rasengans bigger, but still can't use 1 hand to make one.
The reason why Orochimaru didn't go after the Tailed-Beast is it would have put a target directly on his back from the Akatsuki. They were already looking for him because he abandoning their organization, had he interfered with their plan it would've sealed his fate.
Facts plus the fact that Kurama wouldn’t let the curse mark go muchless stay on Naruto’s body. If Orochimaru did get Naruto I’m certain he couldn’t hold off a fully unleashed Nine tails or even 5 plus tail chakra mode Naruto
also he wouldn’t be able to take over his body either just like how pa couldn’t help naruto with gathering nature chakra kurama would interfere with the body take over jutsu
It’s actually crazy the similarities between Naruto and Orochimaru: 1.Uses of Forbidden Justus regularly(Naruto with Multi Shadow clone, Orochimaru any jutsu) 2.Both are very ambitious and let their goals dictate their journeys 3.Both experimented on themselves for their own gain 4.Both had ambitions to be Hokage 5.Both are revered ninja of the village 6.Both are monsters 7.Both Summon Giant animals 8.Wanted to be the best they ever could be
@@DBL6Domino He's not as good as guy but he'd still be a good rival for Sasuke, personally I think it'd be like how he was with Neji but he'd realize Sasuke's stronger so he would have to up his game driving him to get closer to Guy's level
100% one thing that drives me nuts is they will do stories that are what if‘s and then change the story in a way that has nothing to do with the what if case in point the one where they gave him all of the IBS blood limit techniques, removing the Ninetails from him and giving it to Hinata‘s, dad, which would kill Hinata’s father, because I swear, they told us that the Ninetails is too powerful to be put into a adult
@@lpeter722 I feel the biggest problem is the fact that they’re willing to pretty much rewrite characters personalities, and the world as a whole when it is needed is quite annoying. I don’t know if it would be considered self insert, but it is out of Character
@@InvaderMedia420I was mad at that and tbh I feel like the what if’s could be really good but either the character personality to me doesn’t sync up right, i go back to fanfics because of the lack of good what ifs I find
An important note with Sasuke training with kakashi is that kakashi is the copy ninja and knows over 1000 jutsu, and Sasuke is a strategic fighter who can really benefit from the knowledge of a wide variety of jutsu, he'd benefit a lot more than most from learning a wide variety of things and mastering different nature transformations.
Also you’re forgetting Naruto has the nine tails sealed inside him there’s absolutely no way Kurama would allow the curse mark to even happen and orochimaru wouldn’t be able to control the nine tails without a sharingan it would overwhelm orochimaru and someone stated orochimaru wouldn’t bother taking a risk with Naruto cause he was already being hunted by the akatsuki and orochimaru himself was also being targeted by the akatsuki he wouldn’t want to risk being spotted or compromised
I believe orochimaru would have used naruto's strong body to make some genetic modifications, such as putting jugo's and hashirama's DNA into naruto (since naruto would be able to control nature's energy and use mokuton to control kyubi) that would turn naruto into an absolute beast, with infinite chackra and KCM 2 much early in the story. Perhaps naruto would even specialize in uzumaki's chains control, since orochimaru had previous knowledge about the uzumaki clan abilities.
Not to mention orochimaru already had an uzumaki working under him, Karin, I'd like to think Jaraiya would've found orochimaru and helped Naruto defeat orochimaru/bring him back to the village to atone for his crimes. I'd also like to believe Naruto, knowing full well that orochimaru has labs and "subjects" locked up all over the place, that they would go around and free them, and bring some of the more useful ones into konoha, or at least try to save them and bring them into konoha. Like he does with the Shin "Uchiha" clones
I dont think Naruto would be able to use the Uzumaki clan's specific kekkei genkai because he's not a full blooded Uzumaki, he probably would have used them during the war
@@sagequadrowit’s a hidden Justu, not a kekkai genkai. It’s implied it takes a ton of chakra, but you technically don’t have to be an uzumaki to use it. Same with the Nara’s shadow jutsu, they don’t have it genetically cuz it’s knowledge based
Orochimaru would literally never go after Naruto or take an interest in him as a disciple or vessel. In Naruto we’re told and shown certain characters can observe others and instantly scale them/deduce how strong they are. Orochimaru has no interest in people who aren’t prodigious in their capabilities. He literally had this conversation with Jiraiya and said Naruto is talentless which Jiraiya agreed replying training geniuses is boring. Naruto basically wills himself into his strength by having this mentality that he’ll never give up, or go back on his word like he says in English Dub. He always fails at something then finds a work around because he’s an outside the box thinker. The two biggest examples of this are when he couldn’t perform the Rasengan normally he realized that he could delegate a task to a clone to make learning the jutsu easier. He basically couldn’t replenish Sage Mode normally by fusing with Ma and Pa so he said I’m just gonna have clones gather nature energy for me then I’ll dissolve them whenever I need the Senjutsu chakra to reenter Sage Mode. I say all that to say Naruto isn’t super talented or gifted or destined for greatness like NCHammer, and other Naruto fans would lead you to believe because other more talented people have failed where Naruto succeeded. He’s such a unique individual which is why he’s so beloved. He never gives up.
I don't Karin knew how to use them at that point in time. If she did she would've used them against the 8 tails and when Danzo used her as a human shield.
Orochimaru would literally never go after Naruto or take an interest in him as a disciple or vessel. In Naruto we’re told and shown certain characters can observe others and instantly scale them/deduce how strong they are. Orochimaru has no interest in people who aren’t prodigious in their capabilities. He literally had this conversation with Jiraiya and said Naruto is talentless which Jiraiya agreed replying training geniuses is boring. Naruto basically wills himself into his strength by having this mentality that he’ll never give up, or go back on his word like he says in English Dub. He always fails at something then finds a work around because he’s an outside the box thinker. The two biggest examples of this are when he couldn’t perform the Rasengan normally he realized that he could delegate a task to a clone to make learning the jutsu easier. He basically couldn’t replenish Sage Mode normally by fusing with Ma and Pa so he said I’m just gonna have clones gather nature energy for me then I’ll dissolve them whenever I need the Senjutsu chakra to reenter Sage Mode. I say all that to say Naruto isn’t super talented or gifted or destined for greatness like NCHammer, and other Naruto fans would lead you to believe because other more talented people have failed where Naruto succeeded. He’s such a unique individual which is why he’s so beloved. He never gives up.
In my opinion one of the best looking and drippy characters is Naruto part one. That jumpsuit is amazing, but also I think Naruto is top3 ugliest characters in shippuden. Besides the pain arc he looks so bad
Jiraiyas coded message about nagato might fall on deaf ears though unfortunately, since Naruto wasn’t there to watch him write those books. So tracking him down might’ve been a bit harder 😅
Fr... Imagine if He kept the curse mark whilst awakening Ems and Rinne Sharingan... And I wonder would his Perfect Susano'o change into a black colour when he uses the curse mark and how broken would Sasuke be if he still kept the curse mark.
I don't understand how the curse mark was even in the shape of a 3 tomoe sharingan in the first place. Does it change depending on the person? Still weird seeing as Orochimaru doesn't know much about the Sharingan
it makes sense since orochimary would disrupt the akatsuki plan Also I think tail beats weren't a concept in part one, there were like demons 17:39 for me the opposite would make sense, he saw what happens what kurama take control so he would probably use the curse mark more when his chacra get low and he doesn't know its side effect, for him the choice is a demon that could control him or more power since why would orochimaru say that there is a downside to the curse mark, he could put in more dangerous situations just to make him rely on it more
Hey Nick, long time fan here. I have a very interesting theory video idea that you might be interested in. To start it off, the theory is about the village hidden in the stars, I believe the comet that landed in that village wasn't actually a comet or radioactive, but in fact a piece of the moon imbued with Kaguyas chakra. Some points of this theory comes from the chakra constructs the people could create werebsome of the same constructs Kaguya was making and it was also the same purplish-indigo color. And going back to it not being radioactive, I believe it was meant for someone who was a descendant of Kaguya like Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha, Hyuga, Ginkaku/Kinkaku Kaguya clan, or Black Zetsu to find and absorb that power to be able to inact the eye of the moon plan or establish a connection back on earth to unseal herself.
@honchochaposrt7919 yeah I've been holding on to this theory for years. I've been trying to get him to see it I've emailed it to him like 20 times but he hasn't even opened it lol. But I got a lot more to add to the theory, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
@@stevenalexander4354 Have you tried posting this on his subreddit r/NCPedia? Cuz I also agree that it sounds like a good idea for a theory video. Hopefully Nick will see this either here, or in the subreddit. One love ❤
@@stevenalexander4354 you have to email him to get your ideas in he does check them but make sure there well typed to the best of your ability this is a good one bro I sat there and thought on it and rewatched a few episodes and watch some videos and you might have something if the new writer is like the OG and can connect his story well to the old stuff that be cool asf
20:42 I think Naruto would probably make a Jutsu where he makes a Shadow clone out of the area giving it more durability than a regular Shadow clone, and hide the Clones in the surrounding area allowing for better reconnaissance( he won't use it for that) and for better sneak attacks
I would be curious on how the character relationships would have changed if the Konoha 12 in OG naruto were told earlier (maybe after the introduction of the Akatsuki when we first meet Itachi and Kisame) about Naruto and Kurama with the whole backstory of how Kurama got sealed in Naruto. Like does Saskue realizing his brother's organization is after Naruto, force Naruto to move in with him and be his training partner so Naruto can be effective bait to lure Itachi back and maybe even try to convince Naruto to go to Orchimaru with him? Is there a rift now between the Konoha 12 and the upper shinobis cause they realized their initial taught hatred of Naruto was based on misinformation?
and let's not act like kakashi's not a hypocrite, he told sasuke that revenge is not the answer, but in shippuden he went with team 10 so they can get revenge for asuma and I never understood that
Wait, why does Kakashi never use the first gate in any fight, would have really saved him against pain especially. Speaking of Sasuke's progression, learning from Kakashi instead of developing the Sharingan solo would most likely help him progress his capacity to copy techniques beyond taijutsu
@rinuchiha6961 not really, the first gate is nit that bad in terms of drawbacks. To the extent that Lee can kinda just turn off and on the first gate in part 1. If Kakashi had three years he should have at least have gotten good enough to use it to the extent of part 1 Rock lee
This is brilliant. I have never thought of them switching places but rather wandered on ways they could fuse. That's crossed my mind but it's super interesting theory and quite perplexing. Super cool; Great job.
I wonder though if Naruto's naiveté might make Orochimaru better able to manipulate him ; and further I wonder whether he might tap into Yin Kurama's aggressive demeanor , which is more inline with Orochimaru's , so that Naruto and Kurama might bond in a less virtuous co-dependent relationship . After all , Naruto would be spending his time with multiple negative influences . Naruto has commented that the positive influences in his life saved him from becoming like Gaara .
It's pretty interesting to think Sasuke would have been stronger if he didn't go with Orochimaru and just stuck with Kakashi. It's perfectly logical. I personally never thought about the fact Orochi actually didn't want Sasuke to get any stronger and just wanted him to rely on the curse mark so he could become a perfect vessel much easier.
@@kaldurobuin everyone doesn’t read the manga. You’re saying what he spoke on was in the anime? Maybe I missed it somehow. I do often fall asleep watching eps and have to rewatch so maybe I missed something.
Wouldn't it be more likely that Naruto would actually get a Dragon sage mode since his chakra is far more vast chakra and is not only a perfect sage but perfect jinchuriki also?
Could have also had them both go. He could have been easily just taken with him after the fight or just came to the conclusion that sasuke wouldn't come back so he would have to follow him
Perhaps In this Situation, Naruto would still be Going After Itachi, to Avenge Sasuke since Sasuke won't do it. Plus he sees what Itachi did as not only a Betrayal of his own Clan, but The Village as a Whole.
Random Theory: when Naruto remade Kakashi’s eye and said he wasn’t able to make a sharingan. WHAT IF because the Sharingan wasn’t his original eye naruto couldn’t remake it but was unable to differentiate as to why he couldn’t this. Aka because Kakashi’s dna was set for a normal eye because he’s not an Uchiha when naruto remade it He could only remake a normal eye.
@Hydroxis45 Mito Uzumaki had it. I am hoping Himawari trains under Tsunade. This way we could find out more about the 1st jinchuriki of Kurama. Mito is Tsunade's grandmother, after all. 🦊🦊🦊
Nick let me help out... For this to happen, Orochimaru would still need to be in the village. And encounter Orochimaru when he was training and Orochimaru told him the reason he cant mold chakra as well as others is because of his 8 trigram seal. Naruto then goes to learn about sealing jutsus and how to weaken them, then he realises they are ninjutsu about it except forbidden ones. He steals the scrolls, gets saved by Iruka but then learns about how the 8 trigram seal is stronger when he experiences love. So he resolves himself to hatred. And what better way to assert this hatred than to kill his best friend, Sasuke. Orochimaru still worked on curse marks with Kabuto behind the scenes so he gives Naruto a curse mark to enable him absorb nature energy to efficiently siphon the 9 tails chakra with the increased rage and hate he has with the transformation assuming he has the same as Jugo. With this he learns to transform his own body to the 9 tails form and fight Gaara. Sasuke however comes to end the fight and then he received commendation from the Hokage, which Naruto wants to be and this becomes his tipping point. Orochimaru defects the Konoha with Naruto And thats as far as I can ad lib
I love these 'what if' scenarios...probably my favorite content on the channel. Would love to see these alternate realities play out for real. I Neeeed to see that Konan/Sasuke vs. Obito fight!
Naruto's Training w/ Jiraya is almost all in how to bring out Kyubi Chakra - Naruto does lose himself when he gets to 4 but he is undeniably one of the strongest ninja in konoha even in his 3 tailed V1 variant.
I think they're trying to keep Sasuke and Naruto out of the major events of the main plot. Both Ikemoto and Kishimoto are trying to distance the story from the Naruto main cast(which is why he either incapacitates them or makes them irrelevant) They are really adamant about making sure that this doesn't seem like a Naruto sequel so that the boruto cast can take the main stage. It would be awesome if Naruto and Sasuke could get some power up and become more relevant, but very unlikely.
I like the idea that Sauske humbling asking Lee to train with him. Would be an honor for Lee the genius sharingan user would want to train with the ninja that can’t use jutsu
If rinne rebirth uses the life force of the user and the reanimation jutsu take the life force from the user. Then it's safe to say a reanimation person can't use rinne rebirth because they have no life force or not enough to pull it off. Great video🎉
What I'm curious most about in this would be the events of the Sasuke retrieval bit, because if Orochimaru was interested in Naruto and gave him the curse mark in the forest of death, then Naruto left around the same time Sasuke did, then he would have still learned the whole walk on water thing and toad summoning in more or less the same ways, meaning he'd have toad summons to use for training, which is STILL a tie in to him possibly becoming a toad sage. We don't 100% know that Naruto would have been able to train to be a snake sage(But I agree that it's most likely what would happen), which could have prompted investigations by Orochimaru into other sage forms through Narutos summons, and led to Naruto learning sage mode the same way he did before with the toads, just under different circumstances. Still no rasenshuriken, but it's an alternative worth discussing in my opinion, as a variable change that CAN keep things a little closer to what actually happened, as well as provide a line of communication between Jiraiya and Naruto that would allow the leaf village to know somewhat ahead of time that Naruto plans to capture Orochimaru. This would also open the door to not only still forming a bond between Naruto and Jiraiya, but POTENTIALLY(I emphasize this because it's still quite a long shot) open the door to Naruto going on the mission for recon in the rain village, which COULD prevent Jiraiya from dying, as well as turn Nagato to the good side without there ever being an attack on the leaf village, leaving Nagato alive at the end of everything as well. Potentially even setting things up for Nagato to die by using rinnerebirth to bring someone back that Obito kills when they confront him, allowing that to still be a thing that happens. This would also open things up to allow for potentially taking out black zetsu, or something close to it, which could totally subvert/prevent the entire 4th great shinobi war in it's earliest stages. Another thing is Kabuto during everything. I'm wondering if Naruto being the one to go with Orochimaru would somehow change how Kabuto approaches things toward the war start, and make it so he's NOT pulling quite as many strings to get it going, if he's pulling any at all. Naruto very much could have changed Kabutos mind about some things, or at the very least ALSO caught and turned him in along with Orochimaru. Just a few things that popped in my brain while watching all this. I had some other things, but have forgotten what they were while typing all of this, hopefully it makes sense. If I remember the other things, I'll be sure to come back haha.
Orochimaru as an Ōtsutsuki wouldn't care about bijuu power, rather, they'd be more curious about human-made nijutsu. Especially in a scenario where the being we're speaking of is a mad scientist.
I could also see a situation where orochimaru manipulates narutos loyal nature and convinces him to join them as a deal (similar in theme to itachis deal) that he wont go after sasuke if naruto joins him instead, naruto would probably hear itachis side of the story sooner, being a rogue ninja himself and that would only solidify his resolve to stay with orochimaru for as long as possible to give sasuke the best chance at a traditional life
Another reason to wanna go after Naruto is how much more it would make sense that a jejuraki especially a younger one like Naruto had the potential to be a ‘perfect vessel’ as the body is already accustomed to hosting other beings… so long as Orochimaru could suppress Kurama.
An Orochimaru that was actually allowed to use all his retconned knowledge in hindsight would actually be a fascinating what if. As in, What if Orochimaru was ACTUALLY the smartest Ninja on the planet?
Orochimaru would literally never go after Naruto or take an interest in him as a disciple or vessel. In Naruto we’re told and shown certain characters can observe others and instantly scale them/deduce how strong they are. Orochimaru has no interest in people who aren’t prodigious in their capabilities. He literally had this conversation with Jiraiya and said Naruto is talentless which Jiraiya agreed replying training geniuses is boring. Naruto basically wills himself into his strength by having this mentality that he’ll never give up, or go back on his word like he says in English Dub. He always fails at something then finds a work around because he’s an outside the box thinker. The two biggest examples of this are when he couldn’t perform the Rasengan normally he realized that he could delegate a task to a clone to make learning the jutsu easier. He basically couldn’t replenish Sage Mode normally by fusing with Ma and Pa so he said I’m just gonna have clones gather nature energy for me then I’ll dissolve them whenever I need the Senjutsu chakra to reenter Sage Mode. I say all that to say Naruto isn’t super talented or gifted or destined for greatness like NCHammer, and other Naruto fans would lead you to believe because other more talented people have failed where Naruto succeeded. He’s such a unique individual which is why he’s so beloved. He never gives up. Swag doesn’t do what ifs he deals in facts.
32:22 I thought it was assumed that they couldn't because there's another big key player that had Rinnegan when they came back from edo, Madara himself, if Madara can just bring himself back he would have just done it
YEEEESSSS. Before seeing the video i always wanted this. Maybe minus curse mark 2 and orochimaru control for a infinite sage mode naruto seem perfect to me.
The easiest justification for why Naruto might go with Orochimaru, were the offer made, is mentioned by Naruto himself in the series: without the support of people like Iruka, Naruto feels as though he could easily have ended up seeking vengeance. And Naruto would have even greater reason for that vengeance to extend beyond the Leaf Village once he found out about the destruction of the Uzumaki Clan, since that is more closely related to the ninja world as a whole, compared to the Uchiha massacre, with may have been the result of the ninja system, but was only directly tied to Konoha.
For the part at 32:32 about Orochimaru being revived, what motivation would Sasuke (or anyone have for reviving him)? If Sasuke had the chance to actually talk to Itachi, he probably wouldn't have cared to talk to the past hokage as much. Plus, if he's on Konoha's side from the start of the war (because he never went rogue), he's probably not off doing his own thing as part of a path of vengeance. No one else from Konoha even thought about the possibility of getting Orochimaru's help in reviving the dead hokage to fight in the 4th Great Ninja War, so the battle with the Jyuubi and Madara would probably go considerably more in Madara's favor.
at first glace this like why are u even asking but its interesting considering naruto becomes a perfect sage and has the nine tails. id say he's like Jugo at 1st, with the nine tails compounding the uncontrollable effect until he trains with sages.
Hey Nick, I gotta ask: How would Kabuto be affected by Naruto going to train with Orochimaru? Naruto would've been with Kabuto just as closely as Orochimaru during the time skip too. Is there a chance he Talk-No-Jutsu's him? What do you think?
Is there anything known about the members of the akatsuki that i guess are presumed dead but didn’t get screen time? Like the pic at 25:08 I don’t recognize 2 of the guys there.
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I think Boruto answered what Orochimaru did to train Sasuke, because we see it in Sasukes training methods. He tells Boruto he has taught all he knows, but he taught few to no jutsus, only how to use chakra and figure out how to make techniques
The main thing I took away from this video is that Tsunade is the only sannin that actually trained her student well.
Fax
Well i mean Naruto wasn't lacking thr basics in the first place so I'll give it to Jariya. His taijutsu wasn't bad after. Control was what he needed.
@@MoDeLi370 I think he is coming from the fact that
Sakura came out most like her teacher and had the most progress as a student
The problem I have with saying Naruto had better taijutsu after the timeskip is taijutsu is always naturally gonna get better If u train everyday
Especially cause Naruto is that a hand to hand combat type of Shinobi
Now when u look at Sakura
Her healing was on another level
Her strength was elite
And overall she grew alot more as a Shinobi compared to Naruto
If we look at it Naruto had so much more potential
Even smth like him being able to use the rasengan without a shadow clone would've been enough
I love the pain arc and wouldn't change anything about it
But realistically Naruto could've learned sage mode again I wouldn't change anything and I would hold make Naruto learn sage mode after jiraiya's death
But if we are being real he could have
Also I found it weird that Naruto had zero ability to tap into kuramas Chakra not even a little bit
In fact he had more control over it in part 1 of the of series
Anyway my point is that Naruto's timeskip had so much potential and was a bit disappointing but I understand why cause they wanted to save stuff like sage mode,kcm, rasenshuriken for the show so we can experience it
But smth as little as him being able to use rasengan without a shadow clone would've been enough tbh
Orochimaru trained Sasuke well.
Nah, Sasuke came out of the timeskip really strong. He had shape control which is pretty uncommon, his chidori could do a bunch of different things from chidori senbon to chidori stream. He also didn't use it until the Itachi fight but he implied he had Kirin when Team 7 pulled up, I will give you that Sakura was literally useless and she came outta the timeskip able to actually help. EDIT: Nick said Sasuke would have been largely the same iin the video but I doubt he would have had shape control over chidori cause Kakashi couldn't even do that and he created the jutsu. Naruto fr learned nothing, all he could do was make a bigger rasengan and control up to 3 tails which isnt much, all jiraiya taught naruto was chakra control. At the end of part 1 Naruto was already controlling 1 tails so in 2 years he can control 2 more and like I said make his rasengans bigger, but still can't use 1 hand to make one.
The reason why Orochimaru didn't go after the Tailed-Beast is it would have put a target directly on his back from the Akatsuki. They were already looking for him because he abandoning their organization, had he interfered with their plan it would've sealed his fate.
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Facts plus the fact that Kurama wouldn’t let the curse mark go muchless stay on Naruto’s body. If Orochimaru did get Naruto I’m certain he couldn’t hold off a fully unleashed Nine tails or even 5 plus tail chakra mode Naruto
also he wouldn’t be able to take over his body either just like how pa couldn’t help naruto with gathering nature chakra kurama would interfere with the body take over jutsu
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26:06 random akatsuki member 🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️we def need a akatsuki bck story who is buddy to the right nick??!
please keep posting these
U always have to skip like 5min into his video smh
It’s actually crazy the similarities between Naruto and Orochimaru:
1.Uses of Forbidden Justus regularly(Naruto with Multi Shadow clone, Orochimaru any jutsu)
2.Both are very ambitious and let their goals dictate their journeys
3.Both experimented on themselves for their own gain
4.Both had ambitions to be Hokage
5.Both are revered ninja of the village
6.Both are monsters
7.Both Summon Giant animals
8.Wanted to be the best they ever could be
Both can become women
@@DjPrimeVideos if Orochimaru had Sexy no jutsu he wouldve defetaed jiraya
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13:18 wait i suddenly realized, if that happened rocklee can have a story arc with Sasuke too, being a silly rival like kakashi and guy
Rock Lee isn't as good as Guy and wouldn't make a good rival like Guy was for Kakashi.
@@DBL6Domino rock lee is basically a young might guy but lee has a teacher unlike guy did so how would he not make a good rival?
@@DBL6Dominodid he not beat the dog shit outta sauske?
@@DBL6Domino He's not as good as guy but he'd still be a good rival for Sasuke, personally I think it'd be like how he was with Neji but he'd realize Sasuke's stronger so he would have to up his game driving him to get closer to Guy's level
When just being ass at ninjutsu makes u train harder then revenge for your whole clan's slaughter
The Amagi needs to work harder now thanks to Nick 😂
Hello there I also watch Amagi video daily and I also so new Naruto and sasuke switch places video tell who has watched Amagi video down there
100% one thing that drives me nuts is they will do stories that are what if‘s and then change the story in a way that has nothing to do with the what if case in point the one where they gave him all of the IBS blood limit techniques, removing the Ninetails from him and giving it to Hinata‘s, dad, which would kill Hinata’s father, because I swear, they told us that the Ninetails is too powerful to be put into a adult
Amagi is bad at writing (imo) and too self inserting
@@lpeter722 I feel the biggest problem is the fact that they’re willing to pretty much rewrite characters personalities, and the world as a whole when it is needed is quite annoying. I don’t know if it would be considered self insert, but it is out of Character
@@InvaderMedia420I was mad at that and tbh I feel like the what if’s could be really good but either the character personality to me doesn’t sync up right, i go back to fanfics because of the lack of good what ifs I find
An important note with Sasuke training with kakashi is that kakashi is the copy ninja and knows over 1000 jutsu, and Sasuke is a strategic fighter who can really benefit from the knowledge of a wide variety of jutsu, he'd benefit a lot more than most from learning a wide variety of things and mastering different nature transformations.
Curse mark, sage mode, bijuu energy, six paths naruto will go hard😂
He wouldn't get sage if he never trained under Jiraiya. Sage Sasuke would be fucking weird
@@AbolishedEmusnake sage Naruto
Also you’re forgetting Naruto has the nine tails sealed inside him there’s absolutely no way Kurama would allow the curse mark to even happen and orochimaru wouldn’t be able to control the nine tails without a sharingan it would overwhelm orochimaru and someone stated orochimaru wouldn’t bother taking a risk with Naruto cause he was already being hunted by the akatsuki and orochimaru himself was also being targeted by the akatsuki he wouldn’t want to risk being spotted or compromised
I believe orochimaru would have used naruto's strong body to make some genetic modifications, such as putting jugo's and hashirama's DNA into naruto (since naruto would be able to control nature's energy and use mokuton to control kyubi) that would turn naruto into an absolute beast, with infinite chackra and KCM 2 much early in the story. Perhaps naruto would even specialize in uzumaki's chains control, since orochimaru had previous knowledge about the uzumaki clan abilities.
Not to mention orochimaru already had an uzumaki working under him, Karin, I'd like to think Jaraiya would've found orochimaru and helped Naruto defeat orochimaru/bring him back to the village to atone for his crimes. I'd also like to believe Naruto, knowing full well that orochimaru has labs and "subjects" locked up all over the place, that they would go around and free them, and bring some of the more useful ones into konoha, or at least try to save them and bring them into konoha. Like he does with the Shin "Uchiha" clones
I dont think Naruto would be able to use the Uzumaki clan's specific kekkei genkai because he's not a full blooded Uzumaki, he probably would have used them during the war
@@sagequadrowit’s a hidden Justu, not a kekkai genkai. It’s implied it takes a ton of chakra, but you technically don’t have to be an uzumaki to use it. Same with the Nara’s shadow jutsu, they don’t have it genetically cuz it’s knowledge based
Orochimaru would literally never go after Naruto or take an interest in him as a disciple or vessel. In Naruto we’re told and shown certain characters can observe others and instantly scale them/deduce how strong they are. Orochimaru has no interest in people who aren’t prodigious in their capabilities. He literally had this conversation with Jiraiya and said Naruto is talentless which Jiraiya agreed replying training geniuses is boring. Naruto basically wills himself into his strength by having this mentality that he’ll never give up, or go back on his word like he says in English Dub. He always fails at something then finds a work around because he’s an outside the box thinker. The two biggest examples of this are when he couldn’t perform the Rasengan normally he realized that he could delegate a task to a clone to make learning the jutsu easier. He basically couldn’t replenish Sage Mode normally by fusing with Ma and Pa so he said I’m just gonna have clones gather nature energy for me then I’ll dissolve them whenever I need the Senjutsu chakra to reenter Sage Mode. I say all that to say Naruto isn’t super talented or gifted or destined for greatness like NCHammer, and other Naruto fans would lead you to believe because other more talented people have failed where Naruto succeeded. He’s such a unique individual which is why he’s so beloved. He never gives up.
@@crimsonredkingdom2656 Yeah bro, that's why the story never went there and we are conjecturing this unlikely scenario lol
Honestly you’re forgetting Naruto’s cousin she had the chains that can hold and suppress any kinda chakra she’d be put in the story way soon
I don't Karin knew how to use them at that point in time. If she did she would've used them against the 8 tails and when Danzo used her as a human shield.
Thought she used it when duck butt went to get her
What if Sakura became a slug sage? Imagine the habilities she could have. We need that what if! 🙏🙏🙏
If Orochimaru took Naruto’s body it would be kinda funny to see Kurama give him the ‘first time?’ look
Imagine Orochimaru getting stuck because of the seal
Orochimaru would literally never go after Naruto or take an interest in him as a disciple or vessel. In Naruto we’re told and shown certain characters can observe others and instantly scale them/deduce how strong they are. Orochimaru has no interest in people who aren’t prodigious in their capabilities. He literally had this conversation with Jiraiya and said Naruto is talentless which Jiraiya agreed replying training geniuses is boring. Naruto basically wills himself into his strength by having this mentality that he’ll never give up, or go back on his word like he says in English Dub. He always fails at something then finds a work around because he’s an outside the box thinker. The two biggest examples of this are when he couldn’t perform the Rasengan normally he realized that he could delegate a task to a clone to make learning the jutsu easier. He basically couldn’t replenish Sage Mode normally by fusing with Ma and Pa so he said I’m just gonna have clones gather nature energy for me then I’ll dissolve them whenever I need the Senjutsu chakra to reenter Sage Mode. I say all that to say Naruto isn’t super talented or gifted or destined for greatness like NCHammer, and other Naruto fans would lead you to believe because other more talented people have failed where Naruto succeeded. He’s such a unique individual which is why he’s so beloved. He never gives up.
@@crimsonredkingdom2656 summarize that shi
Both Naruto and Sasuke have drip in Shippuden, but not in each other's clothes lol
In my opinion one of the best looking and drippy characters is Naruto part one. That jumpsuit is amazing, but also I think Naruto is top3 ugliest characters in shippuden. Besides the pain arc he looks so bad
i think it would look good if the clothes were color swapped
@Sullly333 Maybe, I just think the clothes match the person looks and personality wise
Didn't expect a Konan and Sasuke team up, much less them kicking Obito's ass.
Jiraiyas coded message about nagato might fall on deaf ears though unfortunately, since Naruto wasn’t there to watch him write those books. So tracking him down might’ve been a bit harder 😅
I believe the word Kumite is pronounced koo-mit-tay.
It definitely is lol
Jiraya improved Naruto's taijutsu and Orichimaru taught Sasuke swordsmanship
I always loved sasuke curse mark desgin especially when he activated the sharingan on top
Fr... Imagine if He kept the curse mark whilst awakening Ems and Rinne Sharingan... And I wonder would his Perfect Susano'o change into a black colour when he uses the curse mark and how broken would Sasuke be if he still kept the curse mark.
@@wolfboydx2994perfect susanno with hand wings would go crazy 😂
I don't understand how the curse mark was even in the shape of a 3 tomoe sharingan in the first place. Does it change depending on the person? Still weird seeing as Orochimaru doesn't know much about the Sharingan
@@jiero3253 on God. 🤣
@@Welshman336every curse mark looks like 3 tomoe sharingan..
u gotta do more what ifs
Imagine if Boruto trained with Orochimaru? A genius training a genius. 🐍🐍🐍
Sasuke was a genius so we've seen what happens
nah keep that FAN away from my goat
it makes sense since orochimary would disrupt the akatsuki plan
Also I think tail beats weren't a concept in part one, there were like demons
17:39 for me the opposite would make sense, he saw what happens what kurama take control so he would probably use the curse mark more when his chacra get low and he doesn't know its side effect, for him the choice is a demon that could control him or more power since why would orochimaru say that there is a downside to the curse mark, he could put in more dangerous situations just to make him rely on it more
That was honestly awesome!!!
Hey Nick, long time fan here. I have a very interesting theory video idea that you might be interested in. To start it off, the theory is about the village hidden in the stars, I believe the comet that landed in that village wasn't actually a comet or radioactive, but in fact a piece of the moon imbued with Kaguyas chakra. Some points of this theory comes from the chakra constructs the people could create werebsome of the same constructs Kaguya was making and it was also the same purplish-indigo color. And going back to it not being radioactive, I believe it was meant for someone who was a descendant of Kaguya like Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha, Hyuga, Ginkaku/Kinkaku Kaguya clan, or Black Zetsu to find and absorb that power to be able to inact the eye of the moon plan or establish a connection back on earth to unseal herself.
Actually a good idea
@honchochaposrt7919 yeah I've been holding on to this theory for years. I've been trying to get him to see it I've emailed it to him like 20 times but he hasn't even opened it lol. But I got a lot more to add to the theory, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
@@stevenalexander4354 Have you tried posting this on his subreddit r/NCPedia? Cuz I also agree that it sounds like a good idea for a theory video. Hopefully Nick will see this either here, or in the subreddit.
One love ❤
@@stevenalexander4354 you have to email him to get your ideas in he does check them but make sure there well typed to the best of your ability this is a good one bro I sat there and thought on it and rewatched a few episodes and watch some videos and you might have something if the new writer is like the OG and can connect his story well to the old stuff that be cool asf
We need Danny to remind Nick that "releasal" isn't a word 😭
dude this was amazing great work!!!
16:37 jiraiya does not teach Naruto toad Sage mode bro 😭
I was about to say this lol
You are wrong about rine rebirth Nick; Madara himself states that he can't use that power with the Rinegan he was using as an Edo Tensei !
20:42 I think Naruto would probably make a Jutsu where he makes a Shadow clone out of the area giving it more durability than a regular Shadow clone, and hide the Clones in the surrounding area allowing for better reconnaissance( he won't use it for that) and for better sneak attacks
Awesome as always thanks ❤️
I would be curious on how the character relationships would have changed if the Konoha 12 in OG naruto were told earlier (maybe after the introduction of the Akatsuki when we first meet Itachi and Kisame) about Naruto and Kurama with the whole backstory of how Kurama got sealed in Naruto. Like does Saskue realizing his brother's organization is after Naruto, force Naruto to move in with him and be his training partner so Naruto can be effective bait to lure Itachi back and maybe even try to convince Naruto to go to Orchimaru with him? Is there a rift now between the Konoha 12 and the upper shinobis cause they realized their initial taught hatred of Naruto was based on misinformation?
and let's not act like kakashi's not a hypocrite, he told sasuke that revenge is not the answer, but in shippuden he went with team 10 so they can get revenge for asuma and I never understood that
Wait, why does Kakashi never use the first gate in any fight, would have really saved him against pain especially.
Speaking of Sasuke's progression, learning from Kakashi instead of developing the Sharingan solo would most likely help him progress his capacity to copy techniques beyond taijutsu
Because it takes more of a toll on his body than it does for Lee and Gai since they trained extensively to be able to use it
@rinuchiha6961 not really, the first gate is nit that bad in terms of drawbacks. To the extent that Lee can kinda just turn off and on the first gate in part 1. If Kakashi had three years he should have at least have gotten good enough to use it to the extent of part 1 Rock lee
First gate obviously won't do much against Pain or most threats.
This is brilliant. I have never thought of them switching places but rather wandered on ways they could fuse. That's crossed my mind but it's super interesting theory and quite perplexing. Super cool; Great job.
I wonder though if Naruto's naiveté might make Orochimaru better able to manipulate him ; and further I wonder whether he might tap into Yin Kurama's aggressive demeanor , which is more inline with Orochimaru's , so that Naruto and Kurama might bond in a less virtuous co-dependent relationship .
After all , Naruto would be spending his time with multiple negative influences . Naruto has commented that the positive influences in his life saved him from becoming like Gaara .
Nah, dude, Naruto is the type of guy to aggressively tell you that his views are right, even when he himself knows it's objectively wrong.
It's pretty interesting to think Sasuke would have been stronger if he didn't go with Orochimaru and just stuck with Kakashi. It's perfectly logical. I personally never thought about the fact Orochi actually didn't want Sasuke to get any stronger and just wanted him to rely on the curse mark so he could become a perfect vessel much easier.
Throwing the JJK spoiler in that kurama frerence was SO WILD. Thanks for that nick. Never knew about that and now im spoiled.
When? I don't wanna get spoiled
The 'spoiler' he mentioned happens like mid s1, that 3/4 years old at this point.
@@kaldurobuin everyone doesn’t read the manga. You’re saying what he spoke on was in the anime? Maybe I missed it somehow. I do often fall asleep watching eps and have to rewatch so maybe I missed something.
@@DRANKWORLDyeah it’s in the first couple of episodes with junpei iirc😭
Wouldn't it be more likely that Naruto would actually get a Dragon sage mode since his chakra is far more vast chakra and is not only a perfect sage but perfect jinchuriki also?
Could have also had them both go. He could have been easily just taken with him after the fight or just came to the conclusion that sasuke wouldn't come back so he would have to follow him
Love these types of videos keep up the good work nick
Loved this 'what if' video. Hella on point Nick
Perhaps In this Situation, Naruto would still be Going After Itachi, to Avenge Sasuke since Sasuke won't do it. Plus he sees what Itachi did as not only a Betrayal of his own Clan, but The Village as a Whole.
Random Theory: when Naruto remade Kakashi’s eye and said he wasn’t able to make a sharingan. WHAT IF because the Sharingan wasn’t his original eye naruto couldn’t remake it but was unable to differentiate as to why he couldn’t this. Aka because Kakashi’s dna was set for a normal eye because he’s not an Uchiha when naruto remade it He could only remake a normal eye.
Keep up the amazing work and videos Nick love the video
Imagine if Naruto was raised/trained by Tsunade? Now that is a what if I would like to watch! 🔶🐌💚
With as much chakra as Naruto has, giving him 100 healings is just broken😂😂😂😂
@Hydroxis45 Mito Uzumaki had it. I am hoping Himawari trains under Tsunade. This way we could find out more about the 1st jinchuriki of Kurama. Mito is Tsunade's grandmother, after all. 🦊🦊🦊
Naruto would have a bunch of healing hax along the Nine tails healing factor.
@@justinarzola4584 He would be a parallel to Mito. I hope we get that with Himawari. 🤞
@@taylor.river7she could train under Sakura for that as well, himawari could have a double dommy mommy tag team train-off
love that you're doing what ifs now
Love the what ifs coming back 🙌🏿, how do we send you potential video ideas or atleast possible talking points?
It has been so incredibly long since you did a what if, and now we get to so quickly back to back! 2025 is gonna be amazing, I hope we get more.
Nick let me help out...
For this to happen, Orochimaru would still need to be in the village.
And encounter Orochimaru when he was training and Orochimaru told him the reason he cant mold chakra as well as others is because of his 8 trigram seal.
Naruto then goes to learn about sealing jutsus and how to weaken them, then he realises they are ninjutsu about it except forbidden ones. He steals the scrolls, gets saved by Iruka but then learns about how the 8 trigram seal is stronger when he experiences love.
So he resolves himself to hatred. And what better way to assert this hatred than to kill his best friend, Sasuke.
Orochimaru still worked on curse marks with Kabuto behind the scenes so he gives Naruto a curse mark to enable him absorb nature energy to efficiently siphon the 9 tails chakra with the increased rage and hate he has with the transformation assuming he has the same as Jugo.
With this he learns to transform his own body to the 9 tails form and fight Gaara.
Sasuke however comes to end the fight and then he received commendation from the Hokage, which Naruto wants to be and this becomes his tipping point.
Orochimaru defects the Konoha with Naruto
And thats as far as I can ad lib
im just saying...using kimimaru's curse patterns wouldve been more appropriate
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I love these 'what if' scenarios...probably my favorite content on the channel. Would love to see these alternate realities play out for real. I Neeeed to see that Konan/Sasuke vs. Obito fight!
Naruto with kenjutsu would be wild!!!
Naruto's Training w/ Jiraya is almost all in how to bring out Kyubi Chakra - Naruto does lose himself when he gets to 4 but he is undeniably one of the strongest ninja in konoha even in his 3 tailed V1 variant.
Love the videos!
I been waiting all mornin for yur video bro!!!! Now i go hide away and watch 🎉
Man pronounced 'kumite' like it was a mineral.
Honestly, seeing everything… it was a miracle that naruto ended still being a good person ;/
1:27 The keyboard thing 😂😂
🤔ya'know it would be cool if Sasuke officially became a sage especially adult Sasuke in the boruto story that would be a useful power up
Yes very much he needs snake sage but sadly it will never happen 😢
@@venomking3602 I'll admit the likelihood is quite low Slim however important PowerUp screen time in boruto is definitely needed
@@venomking3602 I don't know about anyone else however I try to be on the side of Never Say Never half the time
I think they're trying to keep Sasuke and Naruto out of the major events of the main plot. Both Ikemoto and Kishimoto are trying to distance the story from the Naruto main cast(which is why he either incapacitates them or makes them irrelevant) They are really adamant about making sure that this doesn't seem like a Naruto sequel so that the boruto cast can take the main stage. It would be awesome if Naruto and Sasuke could get some power up and become more relevant, but very unlikely.
I would love to see this created soo bad, you explained it with such detail and it sounds sooo good!
Orochimaru definitely taught Sasuke his kenjutsu.
I like the idea that Sauske humbling asking Lee to train with him.
Would be an honor for Lee the genius sharingan user would want to train with the ninja that can’t use jutsu
This would create a killer fan manga for this alternate universe
If rinne rebirth uses the life force of the user and the reanimation jutsu take the life force from the user. Then it's safe to say a reanimation person can't use rinne rebirth because they have no life force or not enough to pull it off. Great video🎉
Just to clarify the reanimation jutsu uses a dead body as a medium for the soul to come back in
Honestly this version of the story, sounds just as epic as the original. 10 out of 10 would watch that.
What I'm curious most about in this would be the events of the Sasuke retrieval bit, because if Orochimaru was interested in Naruto and gave him the curse mark in the forest of death, then Naruto left around the same time Sasuke did, then he would have still learned the whole walk on water thing and toad summoning in more or less the same ways, meaning he'd have toad summons to use for training, which is STILL a tie in to him possibly becoming a toad sage. We don't 100% know that Naruto would have been able to train to be a snake sage(But I agree that it's most likely what would happen), which could have prompted investigations by Orochimaru into other sage forms through Narutos summons, and led to Naruto learning sage mode the same way he did before with the toads, just under different circumstances. Still no rasenshuriken, but it's an alternative worth discussing in my opinion, as a variable change that CAN keep things a little closer to what actually happened, as well as provide a line of communication between Jiraiya and Naruto that would allow the leaf village to know somewhat ahead of time that Naruto plans to capture Orochimaru. This would also open the door to not only still forming a bond between Naruto and Jiraiya, but POTENTIALLY(I emphasize this because it's still quite a long shot) open the door to Naruto going on the mission for recon in the rain village, which COULD prevent Jiraiya from dying, as well as turn Nagato to the good side without there ever being an attack on the leaf village, leaving Nagato alive at the end of everything as well. Potentially even setting things up for Nagato to die by using rinnerebirth to bring someone back that Obito kills when they confront him, allowing that to still be a thing that happens. This would also open things up to allow for potentially taking out black zetsu, or something close to it, which could totally subvert/prevent the entire 4th great shinobi war in it's earliest stages.
Another thing is Kabuto during everything. I'm wondering if Naruto being the one to go with Orochimaru would somehow change how Kabuto approaches things toward the war start, and make it so he's NOT pulling quite as many strings to get it going, if he's pulling any at all. Naruto very much could have changed Kabutos mind about some things, or at the very least ALSO caught and turned him in along with Orochimaru.
Just a few things that popped in my brain while watching all this. I had some other things, but have forgotten what they were while typing all of this, hopefully it makes sense. If I remember the other things, I'll be sure to come back haha.
Orochimaru as an Ōtsutsuki wouldn't care about bijuu power, rather, they'd be more curious about human-made nijutsu. Especially in a scenario where the being we're speaking of is a mad scientist.
Be cool to see an expansion on how their jutsu and styles would change! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I like people that get to the facts. NCH hammer is a Great example.
I love all this what ifs 🔥🔥
I hope this is a what if video instead of it being a 75% analysis, and 25% what if like the danzo one
I'd really like a story where Naruto learned every uzumaki skill
I could also see a situation where orochimaru manipulates narutos loyal nature and convinces him to join them as a deal (similar in theme to itachis deal) that he wont go after sasuke if naruto joins him instead, naruto would probably hear itachis side of the story sooner, being a rogue ninja himself and that would only solidify his resolve to stay with orochimaru for as long as possible to give sasuke the best chance at a traditional life
Another reason to wanna go after Naruto is how much more it would make sense that a jejuraki especially a younger one like Naruto had the potential to be a ‘perfect vessel’ as the body is already accustomed to hosting other beings… so long as Orochimaru could suppress Kurama.
An Orochimaru that was actually allowed to use all his retconned knowledge in hindsight would actually be a fascinating what if.
As in, What if Orochimaru was ACTUALLY the smartest Ninja on the planet?
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Ur welcome ❤
Yeah aDAMN RIGHT! swagkage could never make a video like this, all hail the King of Naruto content on RUclips!
Orochimaru would literally never go after Naruto or take an interest in him as a disciple or vessel. In Naruto we’re told and shown certain characters can observe others and instantly scale them/deduce how strong they are. Orochimaru has no interest in people who aren’t prodigious in their capabilities. He literally had this conversation with Jiraiya and said Naruto is talentless which Jiraiya agreed replying training geniuses is boring. Naruto basically wills himself into his strength by having this mentality that he’ll never give up, or go back on his word like he says in English Dub. He always fails at something then finds a work around because he’s an outside the box thinker. The two biggest examples of this are when he couldn’t perform the Rasengan normally he realized that he could delegate a task to a clone to make learning the jutsu easier. He basically couldn’t replenish Sage Mode normally by fusing with Ma and Pa so he said I’m just gonna have clones gather nature energy for me then I’ll dissolve them whenever I need the Senjutsu chakra to reenter Sage Mode. I say all that to say Naruto isn’t super talented or gifted or destined for greatness like NCHammer, and other Naruto fans would lead you to believe because other more talented people have failed where Naruto succeeded. He’s such a unique individual which is why he’s so beloved. He never gives up. Swag doesn’t do what ifs he deals in facts.
I would love to see you do a What if video on Naruto tooking on more aspects of his mentors and predecessors.
32:22 I thought it was assumed that they couldn't because there's another big key player that had Rinnegan when they came back from edo, Madara himself, if Madara can just bring himself back he would have just done it
While the golem multiple shadow clone jutsu is OP, I can’t help but imagine dozens of golem Kurama’s running around going crazy on the battlefield
So glad the what ifs are back
Prime nchammer is backkk
From the second Nick mentioned the 8 gates I was waiting for him to kill Sasuke off in the final battle using the 8th gate of death.
Great video
Would a curse mark even work on a Jinchuriki? (Genuine question)
This is not a bad what if. Good job dude. Also glad it wasnt a 3 hour slog explaining every single arc
YEEEESSSS. Before seeing the video i always wanted this. Maybe minus curse mark 2 and orochimaru control for a infinite sage mode naruto seem perfect to me.
1 aspect of Naruto training with Orochimaru you ignored is Karin.
19:39 I thought kabuto only got those abilities because he became a “dragon sage” over a pure snake sage like orochimaru was trying to do
The easiest justification for why Naruto might go with Orochimaru, were the offer made, is mentioned by Naruto himself in the series: without the support of people like Iruka, Naruto feels as though he could easily have ended up seeking vengeance. And Naruto would have even greater reason for that vengeance to extend beyond the Leaf Village once he found out about the destruction of the Uzumaki Clan, since that is more closely related to the ninja world as a whole, compared to the Uchiha massacre, with may have been the result of the ninja system, but was only directly tied to Konoha.
I feel like you’ll go hard with this one.
Would've been cool to see a junchiriki with curse mark 2, the mixed transformation would be cool looking imo
It’s so funny, I was just thinking about this what if the other day, I’m glad it’s not only on my mind
For the part at 32:32 about Orochimaru being revived, what motivation would Sasuke (or anyone have for reviving him)? If Sasuke had the chance to actually talk to Itachi, he probably wouldn't have cared to talk to the past hokage as much. Plus, if he's on Konoha's side from the start of the war (because he never went rogue), he's probably not off doing his own thing as part of a path of vengeance. No one else from Konoha even thought about the possibility of getting Orochimaru's help in reviving the dead hokage to fight in the 4th Great Ninja War, so the battle with the Jyuubi and Madara would probably go considerably more in Madara's favor.
I think you should flip orochimaru and jiraiya aswell
Will they have the same personality? I can't imagine Naruto killing Samurai giving a thumbs up talking bout "Beleive it!" With a thumbs up.😂😂😂
at first glace this like why are u even asking but its interesting considering naruto becomes a perfect sage and has the nine tails. id say he's like Jugo at 1st, with the nine tails compounding the uncontrollable effect until he trains with sages.
If Naruto did use the Curse Mark to go to Version 2, I would think he would turn into some sort of fox form. XD
Hey Nick, I gotta ask: How would Kabuto be affected by Naruto going to train with Orochimaru? Naruto would've been with Kabuto just as closely as Orochimaru during the time skip too. Is there a chance he Talk-No-Jutsu's him? What do you think?
Is there anything known about the members of the akatsuki that i guess are presumed dead but didn’t get screen time? Like the pic at 25:08 I don’t recognize 2 of the guys there.