Heroes 3 Strategy: Hero chaining & using side heroes (part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2020
- In this video I talk about and demonstrate how and why to chain your heroes and use side heroes. I also show two demonstrations of hero chains in different games and explain my thought process behind it.
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Excellent instruction.
So that's why I take 5 minutes to complete my turn, while my enemy takes half a day.
Haha!
I saw this previously, but didn't really grasp the idea as I was practicing against computers(not really playing multiplayer at the moment). I was just catching up, as I just discovered HoTA like two years ago. Lately I was watching tournaments and multiplayer games. And I noticed that these players were really efficient. They're out of my league.. As usual I go to this channel, to find explanations of what those players are trying to do.
Thanks for creating these guides. Without these guides, I will get stuck playing against computers hehehe. I only tried playing multiplayer with my friends. I'm not good enough to challenge anybody online. I might just waste their time, if I don't put up a good fight. These guides you put up, really helps me improve my game.
Happy to help, and glad to hear you're improving!
BTW, check out part 2 to the hero chaining guide, I feel like I did a better job trying to explain the thought process behind proper chaining there:
ruclips.net/video/FmqFleTXn90/видео.html
@@alex_the_magician9483 Yes, I checked it. I was trying it out in game, just to have a grasp of it.
It's really different just watching your games and others, than actually making decisions in game.
If I have time, I'll try making a twitch account and follow your games. I'm not currently into twitch, as I just play casually. But heroes 3 has become a lot more interesting for me.
I'm glad you guys are investing time to put up guides for us :)
@@peterjohnjimenez Haha, yeah its true, before I started playing I watched streams and thought "oh this looks like I can do it", then trying to put it into practice myself was much harder. But all you can do is try and try to improve on your mistakes a little each day. Analyzing your games afterwards helps a lot too
@@alex_the_magician9483 Yes you are right. I watched some of your games posted here. And reading the in game comments and you responding to them. Sometimes I'm like, it's not as easy as it looks.
The logic in battles can be simulated(by lot of loads in single player 😅). But the decision making on what objectives to be prioritized on the map... I don't think it has a blueprint.
I really like the fact that you always bring up other player strategies, before you explain your thought process. There's that in game feel to it. For someone like me with no multiplayer experience(except for my old buddies who used to play this), these things are really helpful. Not to mention your explaining and responding to comments in your streams, with the time is ticking 😊.
I hope you'll have more time creating these guides. These are time consuming stuffs and I appreciate it.
Keep it up and Godbless!
@@peterjohnjimenez Thanks for the kind words! Will do my best to keep it up!
Dope chaining, wp!
Thanks!
@@alex_the_magician9483 I read online in a forum about a HotA feature called "invite the heroe" and I quote, dude says "They give you armies, money, resources, spells and movement points. You should always have 8 heroes and all your town should have garrison heroes" I don't know about this feature, but looking into your 33 minute video to find a 3 second answer can be a challenge. I ask google but no answer, do you know what it is?
I am keen heroes3 and learning English, you have good pronunciation!
Thank you :)
just started getting into homm3, glad to see people still making videos for new players to discover - are you using a mod for the cleaner font and the army size reminders? if so which mod?
It's the HD mod, and the Horn of the Abyss (HotA) unofficial expansion. You can get HotA for free here drive.google.com/file/d/1hVAGeDlGlpRW0Hg5aeKCfKy99-8Yjf2y/view - it already contains the necessary elements of the HD mod. If you do want to buy the HD mod, get it from good old games, not steam.
@@alex_the_magician9483 thanks for linking
which version of heroes are you playing? You split units faster than I can and there are additional buttons in the interface, and better resolution. What are the hot keys to split so fast?
This is horn of the abyss. The additional hotkey functionality is from the HD mod, just google it and you should find the download.
Hello. Can somebody tell me if this tutorial is mostly for JC or it cand also aply to a fun map like XL random map 200%?
The demonstration is on JC, but chaining applies to any map.
This is so complex. I doubt I can master this game in matter of weeks. But that also means that I have something to play for a long time. This seems very realistic though. Irl you would also have to plan how to split your troops and be efficient with movement to make sure you get enough resourcrs as fast as possible. I always like this part of HOMM3.
Hero chaining and prioritizing objectives is where I also struggled. Alex has very nice guides in this channel. What I like about Alex is he explains how he views the map in an in-game manner. What his thought process is, when he see objects(artifacts, creature banks, etc.) in the map. What to prioritize first and why. This is where I struggled even now.
@@peterjohnjimenez I guess this is rather intuitive and you need to learn this by experience. I don't really plan to play this online so it doesn't matter too much. But it's more fun to learn how to play games more efficiently.
Heh, I've been trying to play the game at this level for 2 years, around 4 days a week, and I still haven't even gotten close to mastering it.
If you haven't seen part 2 of this guide, I do a better job explaining the thought process behind this: ruclips.net/video/FmqFleTXn90/видео.html
@@alex_the_magician9483 I've seen it already. Your guides are great.
@@alex_the_magician9483 I seem to have faced my first problem. Increased the difficulty from 80% to 100% and I am already losing to the AI. Although I am very efficient with farming resources and mines the AI for some reason builds their fortress way faster than me and therefore has more units. How come? Am I doing something wrong?
dragon cave on turn 2....how? O___O
The verbal explanation is nice, but the fact that you speed up the whole montage, prevents us from seeing what you're actually explaining and thus makes us lose the thread of what's happening. Works much better if you're talking and doing at the same time, rather than talking and then only showing the end result.
Good tutorial though!
Makes sense, thanks for the feedback!
@@alex_the_magician9483 ;)
Learned a lot from your video! Thanks!
@@VASM160689 Glad I helped, cheers!
@@alex_the_magician9483 Yes, if I had to make a suggestion it would be to filter out the time spent thinking (both what to say and what to do) and show the combats in slightly slower motion (still sped up) so people that want to can at least see what you fought, what you fought with, and general strategy. Some of this could be accomplished by pre-recording the game play, then just selecting the parts you want to explain. Could probably shorten a video like this by 10 minutes or more. Also, you might explain basic terms as you go for people that might not know, like "poor man" and "break".
Not a lot so nice video about H3)) Thatnk you) I am your subscriber now))
Cheers :), glad you like it. Thanks for the sub :)
Why is not there HotA + WoG?!?!? WoG is by far the best version of Heroes III and it would only get better if you add 1 more fraction.
I feel like wog is a bit too much with all the additions
@@alex_the_magician9483, well, a lot is going on, but the regular HoMM has so many useless things that are reworked in WoG. Like why would you ever want to have Scouting or First Aid, or Mysticism, or Learning... The list is quite long. Many of the artifacts are also reworked. But you know all that, I should not explain HoMM to one of the top youtubers on that game. :)
Chain it up
What is the point of making a guide on chaining and start at a point where you have already 6 heroes out? Like, how do I start? The video mostly explains the goal of chaining instead of the process of doing it.
For a viewer it is not relevant that on this map it makes sense to chain the shop, rather how you do it - how you spread out the heroes, which way to go with the first, second... hero, how much distance is necessary....
Chaining is a complex thing that requires a lot of thought.
Check out part 2, I try to explain the thought process more there. ruclips.net/video/FmqFleTXn90/видео.html Hopefully this one helps you more.
@@alex_the_magician9483 thanks, it sure is and that is why it is so frustrating for me, because seeing somebody doing it right does not help it as I don't understand it, so when I try to recreate it it does not work for me.
Im so sorry but ive never seen more perfectly placed Shops.. i would like to see chaning off road were its accually hard to do this. I dident learn any of seeing a perfect map be chained ;P
Hi Mikael! Thanks for the feedback. I agree that the placement of objects in this map is quite fortunate, but even in the case of a good map, it's important to know how to chain things properly. When I first started pvp I wasn't able to do something like this. If this is too simple for your skills - then great! But remember that there are also people who are just starting to learn the mechanics, and it's better to have something like this as a baby step to learn, instead of just throwing them into something really complex. In the future I will definitely make another video with more complex chaining off road/rough terrain etc.
By the way, not sure if you saw the second part - where I do demonstrate a more complex chain involving 8+ heroes and off roading (it starts at around 23 minutes).
P.S. If you're interested you can check out my Twitch stream where you'll see me play multiple games a day and deal with all sorts of situations, like bad biomes, bad roads, bad terrain, etc. It's tough to make one video that covers all situations as there are a lot of variables, so you may find the content you're looking for in the stream :).
Cheers :)
@@alex_the_magician9483 thank you Alex for an professional answer i will check in part 2. Problem with guides is that there are nothing for us medium players. Searched everywere. There are for unicorn players or for newbeginners i do check ur stream ;)
@@MikeAndersson Yeah, it's tough to make content that fits everyone. But you can always leave a request for what you'd like to see and I'll do my best to accommodate!
@@alex_the_magician9483 okay i have a request becuse i belive very few knows this. I would like to see a clip or stream were a "skilled" or "pro" like you show us low/mediums prioritized objective. You who do know what to do and look at the map and see directly were your foucs should be
A guy like me see : tier 6 Delv , Warriors tomb , goldmine , shrine tier 4 , 2 dragon hives 1 griffin con in the same screen (well that would been awsome) but i have NO idé whats the main focus :)
@@MikeAndersson Hahah, thanks for the kind words. Although I definitely don't consider myself a pro :D, I would say my skill level is somewhere around intermediate.
Anyway, sure, I'll do my best to create a tutorial on what you've requested, it's going to be a bit challenging though because priorities will be a bit different for different factions and different situations.
BTW, some of that info is in some of my other videos. For example, the turn 1-2 demonstration video, or the entire week 1 playthrough with dungeon.