And if you know, you know. It was under Carter (but actually started under Ford, Carter was blamed for it). Bob Jones and many other Christian schools and private schools that popped up in the wake of civil rights were being threatened with IRS and their tax exemption status. To them it meant existential war and utter betrayal by Carter - even though technically had nothing to do with Carter and everything to do with their own racism and bigotry. They was 1977 if I recall correctly. They voted for him then, and then 1980 the southern strategy was effectively in full swing and traditionally democrat conservatives shifted over to Republican. 1980 you had refan elected, but also had Buchanan declaring the culture war. 9/11 really was a crusade to them. And the rest is history. They're just going to get worse and worse and there's no going back. And to a large degree, the freaks are running the show. So we're going back to the reformations and wars of religion, because America was except from that history and never learned from it. Weeee
I remember when Jimmy said he was attacked by a giant rabbit, had lust in his heart. When he admitted that he talked to Amy about nuclear weapons I knew he was toast.
@@faustinreeder1075 I live in california and saw a HUGE jackrabbit running down the street in the middle of the night. IT was as big as a big dog, like a great dane. It freaked me out. I thought about Carter's encounter when that happened. That rabbit was fast, too! hah! Seriously, I did not know that rabbits could be THAT big. It wasn't a jackelope, that's an urban myth. I can see where it comes from, since jackrabbits have stubby ears compared to rabbits, but boy, that dude was huge, and fast, lol. poor thing, he must've gotten lost and was scared, i'd never seen a jackrabbit before in cali, though they're indigenous
Untrue, The the belt buckle of the German Army Uniform said "God is with us". The German Army gear had a Cross on it, a left over from the Franco Prussia War.
Jesus actually said he came to set people against each other. You can’t serve God and the Devil. You can’t be open to everything because that means good and evil means nothing. The moment you stand for something then by definition you are standing against other things People on the left seem to be eternally stuck as victim/child energy types in various ways who want to always be accepted exactly as they are. A good example of the Drag Queen thing. They feel the urge to go and teach other peoples children to be tolerant of them. Or for Trans people to accepted as real men or women by everyone else They can’t tolerate people not wanting them. They force it down everyone’s throat. Showing zero empathy for others deeply held beliefs. Then gas lighting then by saying they have no empathy lol Delusional really.
I think it's a mistake to think that way. Their religious convictions are largely sincere. That doesn't make them valid, valuable, or valorous. They're decisively not.
@@50iraqidinar this is hugely important. we need to be supporting the deconstruction movement, some of the biggest wins for progressive christianity will be there.
President Grant tried but failed with over 500 pages of signatures, or at least from what I have read anyway. Still, it seems the only way to end it all is to outlaw the hebrew god altogether from existing.
I went to a megachurch last Sunday with a shirt that read ‘Liberation for Palestinians’ on it. I was forcefully grabbed by their security force and forced out of the building (I did not resist in any way, but they couldn’t help but put their hands on me. I was complying.), and then was told that they would legally pursue me if I came back. These people can’t even stand to be in the same room as someone with a different political opinion than their own. How are we supposed to get through to people who cant stand a simple t-shirt? I want to be able to talk to these people, but they don’t even want to be in the same room as someone different than themself.
They should lose their tax exempt status if a shirt that wasn’t offensive in the least caused them to react that way. It’s not like you were staring God wasn’t real or something
That's appalling. I was at a Presbyterian church which encouragingly had Rev. Munther Isaac, a Palestinian Christian pastor, over to give a talk, and he spoke about how much of American Christianity is much different than the Christianity where he comes from, which emphasises humility, pacificism and and sacrifice as opposed to the prosperity gospel and militarism of many American churches.
There are plenty of Christians who see the cross as separate from the flag and are willing to respect the faith of others. The problem is we don't have a megaphone. Thank you very much for giving this man a platform.
Unfortunately the ones with the megaphone are bots from malignant foreign governments who use the internet to stir up civil unrest and shape public opinion. All you have to do is pay or blackmail religious leaders to say that Jesus has appeared to them to say God is on Trump's side to get them to blindly follow a dictator. We are not a theocracy, we are a democracy. These bible thumping gun toting extremists are no better that Muslim extremists. If the Christian Nationalists take over, we are no longer a democracy.
Extremely simplified information - necessary for comprehension of current political situation in the USA - which, like it or not, impacts the whole world. As currently on view in the USA, the FASCIST SCAM started over a hundred years ago when Coors (as in Coors beer) put together a fascist right wing group and agenda to counter the socialist progressive policies that were beginning to be implemented in America. The protestant groups, such as the evangelicals, baptists, assemblies, etc., were chosen for this project PRECISELY and INTENTIONALLY, because they were NAIVE, incredibly IGNORANT, and very EASILY and READILY MANIPULATED. Money, capitalism, power, fascism, plutocracy, and oligarchy were and are the singular goals, the absolute objectives; though most of the deluded members of these cults are not aware of these things and would die defending this con. These ultra right wing barrons knew it would take some time for this cold-blooded, purposeful contrivance to work its way to the forefront, but it started to bear fruit in the 50's, showed up in force in the Reagan 80's, the Gingrich Congress, Dubya's era, Delay's Congress, the Claremont Institute, the Heritage Foundation (and many others like it), Mercer, Cambridge Analytica, etc., and came to full, grim, nightmarish fruition with the REPUBLICANeviks, TRUMPeviks, MAGAviks, Q'ANONeviks, etc.; with the RIGHT WING, conservative, fascist MEDIA at their side AMPLIFYING the SOPHISTRY/MESSAGING 24/7. --- --- --- Point: FOX media is NOT a NEWS outlet. It deals strictly in dissemination of ULTRA-RIGHT wing fascist, republicanevik, trumpevik, magavik, q'anonevik, fundamentalist, racist, etc., LIES and PROPAGANDA. (Think Moscow's PRAVDA.) FOX actively promoted seditious lies regarding the last american presidential election, was caught and sued, settled out of court and paid close to a billion dollars in settlement fees to Dominion. Smartmatic is in process of suing. Little, if anything, has changed. (Although there is now one very capable, democracy and truth supporting journalist who, when she is on, very intelligently refutes all the lies.) FOX wholeheartedly (almost singlehandedly) but alongside such media as OANN, NEWSMAX,... and all the ultra-right political/religious RADIO PROGRAMMING, [which by the way is particularly brutal in the vile, vicious lies it spreads, being fiercely anti-education, anti-science, very pro muscovite-russian state fascism, pro-Orban, pro-Putin, misogynistic, racist, etc.], CONTRIBUTED TO the incalculable degree of IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY WITHIN the american populace; CONTRIBUTED TO the absolute harsh oligarchical plutocratic fascist CORPORATE CONTROL of the LIVES of american citizens for the absolute WORSE and spiraling downward; CONTRIBUTED TO the horrendously NEGATIVE STATE of affairs regarding the condition of economic PROSPERITY, WELLBEING, and physical/medical/mental HEALTH of american citizenry; and CONTRIBUTED TO the DELIBERATE CRIMINAL FASCIST DISARRAY within the USA government. This is NOT an exaggeration. --- --- --- --- --- It is, in fact, a STATISTIC that if you watch FOX (or watch and listen to other such right-wing outlets), you are (kindly phrased) SIMPLE-MINDED. And the more you watch/listen to/read the rightwing media, the more DENSE and BRAINLESS you become. --- --- --- It would take hundreds of years of deprogramming - and that with limited success - to start to solve this problem, if at all possible, because it was done under the auspices of religion. The naive left fell prey to right wing pr and did absolutely nothing to counteract this nefarious scheme. It was dismissed as under the sponsorship and guidance of 'religion.' They were afraid to touch that system model. Instead, they actually helped cater to it, particularly during the Reagan and Dubya era. - - - - - - - The so-called 'christian right' is NOT Christian. They are old testament fundamentalist reconstructionists and dominionists. There are varieties within those; most of which are beyond hypocritical, predatory, fraudulent, grifting, larcenous, and CRIMINAL. They do NOT follow the teachings of Christ as laid out in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the New Testament of the Bible. The word 'christian' as applied to these people is a DELIBERATE MISNOMER. -- -- -- -- -- -- Additionally, the Muscovite-Russian State has been plying its PROPAGANDA for hundreds of years. But it came into full play in the USA with the Reagan years in all possible categories, such as: economy, commerce, business, politics, finance, entertainment, sports, religion, education, etc. Putin intensified the predatory ruthless scheme to a highly targeted level by not only using HUMAN ASSETS but ALL MEDIA RESOURCES available, particularly television and internet; concentrating on the venal, CORRUPT, uninformed, IGNORANT, and GULLIBLE political/religious right. This Infiltration/Manipulation is CURRENT and ONGOING. To wit: Tucker Carlson, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Comer, Tuberville, trumpeviks, magaviks, q'anoneviks, fundamentalists, right wing media,... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Crudely but accurately stated, Trump and the religious/political right are Putin's 'butt boys' - (though Trump is particularly 'special' in that regard). That goes for the ENTIRE POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS RIGHT THROUGHOUT the PLANET. Think Europe, India, Africa, etc. The MUSCOVITE BRAINWASHING has been PROFUSE. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The right planned hundreds of years into the future. The left was lazy, and in many instances, arrogant and unsophisticated about reality. The consequences and results of lack of counter-action are self-evident and on full display. -- The only long-term answer: EDUCATION, education, education. With real SOLUTIONS and absolute, actual RESULTS. Not following through would be terminal. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- Everything Trump does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC. *** Trump IS a LIAR. So he has been his entire life. It's both his NUMBER ONE PERSONAL IDENTIFIER and his PROFESSION. Ditto for his progeny. Everything the Trump Organized Crime Family does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC. Always. The Trump Organized Crime Family MODUS OPERANDI: Delay, Delay, Delay. Deny, Deny, Deny. And above all: LIE, LIE, LIE. - In conjunction with: Cheat, Blackmail, Coerce, Bribe, CORRUPT, Deceive, Defraud, Dupe, GRIFT, LAUNDER muscovite-russian state criminal assets/monies, Steal, DENY RESPONSIBILITY, REFUSE ACCOUNTABILITY, THREATEN, INCITE VIOLENCE, Assault, Attack, Hate, COMMIT TREASON, COMMIT HIGH TREASON, be utterly self-absorbed, self-adulating, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting braggarts, cretinous ignoramuses, arrogant entitled bigots and racists, narcissists, CRIMINAL THUGS, criminal TREASONOUS SOCIOPATHS, and criminal TREASONOUS PSYCHOPATHS. - And that's just for starters. --- --- --- --- The Trump Organized Crime Family members have LEARNED NOTHING IN LIFE. They are immeasurably, profoundly, unfathomably IGNORANT, flat-out stupid, MORALLY/ETHICALLY BANKRUPT, and EVIL. ALL IN Putin's POCKET, GOING ABOUT Putin's BUSINESS. FOLLOW the MONEY. - - - - - - - - - -
This is crazy! I’m a 78 year old woman. I grew up in Houston, and went to the Methodist Church. The Christianity I grew up with was about helping people, caring for people. The evangelicals have ruined it for me. Our pastors do not speak politically! I vote Blue!
Blue cities can’t even keep them clean and rise is crime. giving people free stuff isn’t being Christian that’s enabling them and they will never move up in the world teaching them how to grow their own food how to build that’s how you help people not telling them here sit on your ass I’ll give you whatever you want
@LucyBlue0823 Hold to your faith and know this. You are the right side of God's Word. Yeshua the Social Justice Warrior. Luke chp 4 verse 18) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach the Gospel to the poor; he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised. His messages are directly aimed at the poor! Sorry Conservatives! Yes, Yeshua/Jesus is a Liberal! Proverbs chp 22 verse 22) Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, 23) for the Lord will take up their case and will exact life for life. Isaiah chp 10 Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their pray and robbing the fatherless. Ezekiel chp 22 verse 27) Her official's within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. 28) Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, This is what the Sovereign Lord has says'-when the Lord has not spoken. 29) The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery, they oppress the poor and the needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice. Philippians chp 3 vs 18) For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now I tell you weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, 19) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their appetite and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. 20) For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ
I haven't been to church in years and am more spiritual than religious. However, all I do when I'm at a crossroads of what I may want to do, but need to consider what I should do is ask myself WWJD?...........that makes decisions easier.
I think that he wasn’t chosen by God because he cheated to get in, but I feel that God used him to expose all the evil that he and his friends are about is kind of like God’s karma but show for us
This is alleged to be from a witness to the first or very early Christians. How right wing does it sound? "All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need." - Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32-35
Jesus said that himself so I don’t understand why it is. He said his true followers would or should be no part of the world which would include worldly politics. 🤔
never has, never will. In fact, if you think about it, the people who are only good because they think they will get rewarded by god (heaven) for being so, are not actually good. It's the people who are good simply because it's the instincual best way to be that are the true moral people in this world.
Oh boy!! Can I weigh in on this one!! I have lived in Orange County off and on for 56 years!! I was transplanted here at 6 years of age from Northern California due to my grandmother's illness. I have never felt comfortable here! Always at odds with this exact topic!! I am a 61 yo progressive female. Fortunately the county now has more registered Democrats than Republicans. Unfortunately the scars of the conservative movement run deep here. I am hoping to relocate in the next year. It has been made more complicated because of my health issues.💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Scars? There are scars everywhere I guess if you're around the "wrong" place. We all have our comfort zones, thank God there is an Orange County you can go to, we all need a place even Northern Californians. I feel the hate, yeah.
That is so true!!! My parents switched churches, leaving behind one they had attended for over 30 YEARS, to attend one which had a more theocratic, right-winged vocal, and frankly, noticeably more bigoted, sermons from the pulpit. So alarming and disappointing to watch them descend this cult-like rabbit hole of blindly conflating politics and religion. This is such a DANGEROUS movement!!!
My family has fallen victim to this too and I’m scared and confused. I want to try to help them see reason but I’m afraid of conflict because I was taught to be quiet and docile
@@rosie678100 I am in the same boat, raised in a very domineering patriarchal household where what “Dad/Husband/Grandpa” says, goes, and there is no questioning him or discussion, period. So much of how I was raised was intimately tied to very evangelical “Christianity” doctrine, BUT over the past 5+ years, the rhetoric and beliefs have taken an extremist turn, to which my upbringing even pales in comparison to! And the new way that politics has been merged with religion is something that was never part of my upbringing-it is a new, very dangerous brand of fanaticism that is comparable to the beliefs of The Crusaders…CLEARLY NOT SOMETHING JESUS WOULD EVER CONDONE OR WANT HIS NAME ATTACHED TO, that’s for sure!!! But I am at a total loss of how to try to reach out to my afflicted family members, it truly feels like they have been indoctrinated into a terrifying, unhinged cult of extremists! God help us!!!
@@rosie678100The spiritual path is far more rewarding than the religious rabbit holes that have sprouted up out of politics. Spiritual inspiration is also more rewarding than politically motivated religious indoctrination. They are attempting to serve two tangible masters, while abandoning morals, integrity and content of character. Right is right no matter how many people are not doing it. Wrong is wrong no matter how many people are doing it. Be inspired spiritually because it promotes positive spiritual growth. Leave them to their political aspirations mixed with ever changing religious indoctrination. You cannot help someone who has found comfort in their own ignorance.
I have heard first person reports from former churchgoing American southerners regarding just how dramatically the church has changed JUST IN THE LAST 10-15 YEARS. Basically what has happened is that the vitriol and extremism and racism has just exploded.
Over 25 years ago my Evangelical grandmother told me that the American flag was a sign from god that we, the "star people" were destined to rule over the "sand people". My takeaway was that she thought 'we' (mostly white American Christians) were meant to be superior to, and rule over, Middle Eastern people and to have control over Israel. This was shortly after 9/11, after all. I honestly don't remember if she even explained how she came to that conclusion because it was so nonsensical, but it just goes to show these seeds were sown a long time ago. My grandmother passed before Trump came into power, but if she were still here she would be worshiping him like the 2nd coming of Jesus. My mother (a divorced single mom mind you) who has always been Christian, also voted for him and bragged to me when he won. The kind of world my mom voted for is one in which she would be shamed for leaving my abusive alcoholic father. It's crazy to me how easily Evangelicals fall to their knees for Trump, even when it goes against their own interests.
I grew up in and still live in California. In the 80s and early 90s, everything was normal. Then, once we were teenagers, all my white friends’ families (I’m white too) suddenly became very religious, their kids began going to church youth groups, and they were no longer allowed to watch certain movies and listen to certain music. I believe it was the effect of Rush Limbaugh really hammering into these people that they needed to be involved in the church as the church became more politically active, especially in Republican politics.
Extremely simplified information - necessary for comprehension of current political situation in the USA - which, like it or not, impacts the whole world. As currently on view in the USA, the FASCIST SCAM started over a hundred years ago when Coors (as in Coors beer) put together a fascist right wing group and agenda to counter the socialist progressive policies that were beginning to be implemented in America. The protestant groups, such as the evangelicals, baptists, assemblies, etc., were chosen for this project PRECISELY and INTENTIONALLY, because they were NAIVE, incredibly IGNORANT, and very EASILY and READILY MANIPULATED. Money, capitalism, power, fascism, plutocracy, and oligarchy were and are the singular goals, the absolute objectives; though most of the deluded members of these cults are not aware of these things and would die defending this con. These ultra right wing barrons knew it would take some time for this cold-blooded, purposeful contrivance to work its way to the forefront, but it started to bear fruit in the 50's, showed up in force in the Reagan 80's, the Gingrich Congress, Dubya's era, Delay's Congress, the Claremont Institute, the Heritage Foundation (and many others like it), Mercer, Cambridge Analytica, etc., and came to full, grim, nightmarish fruition with the REPUBLICANeviks, TRUMPeviks, MAGAviks, Q'ANONeviks, etc.; with the RIGHT WING, conservative, fascist MEDIA at their side AMPLIFYING the SOPHISTRY/MESSAGING 24/7. --- --- --- Point: FOX media is NOT a NEWS outlet. It deals strictly in dissemination of ULTRA-RIGHT wing fascist, republicanevik, trumpevik, magavik, q'anonevik, fundamentalist, racist, etc., LIES and PROPAGANDA. (Think Moscow's PRAVDA.) FOX actively promoted seditious lies regarding the last american presidential election, was caught and sued, settled out of court and paid close to a billion dollars in settlement fees to Dominion. Smartmatic is in process of suing. Little, if anything, has changed. (Although there is now one very capable, democracy and truth supporting journalist who, when she is on, very intelligently refutes all the lies.) FOX wholeheartedly (almost singlehandedly) but alongside such media as OANN, NEWSMAX,... and all the ultra-right political/religious RADIO PROGRAMMING, [which by the way is particularly brutal in the vile, vicious lies it spreads, being fiercely anti-education, anti-science, very pro muscovite-russian state fascism, pro-Orban, pro-Putin, misogynistic, racist, etc.], CONTRIBUTED TO the incalculable degree of IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY WITHIN the american populace; CONTRIBUTED TO the absolute harsh oligarchical plutocratic fascist CORPORATE CONTROL of the LIVES of american citizens for the absolute WORSE and spiraling downward; CONTRIBUTED TO the horrendously NEGATIVE STATE of affairs regarding the condition of economic PROSPERITY, WELLBEING, and physical/medical/mental HEALTH of american citizenry; and CONTRIBUTED TO the DELIBERATE CRIMINAL FASCIST DISARRAY within the USA government. This is NOT an exaggeration. --- --- --- --- --- It is, in fact, a STATISTIC that if you watch FOX (or watch and listen to other such right-wing outlets), you are (kindly phrased) SIMPLE-MINDED. And the more you watch/listen to/read the rightwing media, the more DENSE and BRAINLESS you become. --- --- --- It would take hundreds of years of deprogramming - and that with limited success - to start to solve this problem, if at all possible, because it was done under the auspices of religion. The naive left fell prey to right wing pr and did absolutely nothing to counteract this nefarious scheme. It was dismissed as under the sponsorship and guidance of 'religion.' They were afraid to touch that system model. Instead, they actually helped cater to it, particularly during the Reagan and Dubya era. - - - - - - - The so-called 'christian right' is NOT Christian. They are old testament fundamentalist reconstructionists and dominionists. There are varieties within those; most of which are beyond hypocritical, predatory, fraudulent, grifting, larcenous, and CRIMINAL. They do NOT follow the teachings of Christ as laid out in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the New Testament of the Bible. The word 'christian' as applied to these people is a DELIBERATE MISNOMER. -- -- -- -- -- -- Additionally, the Muscovite-Russian State has been plying its PROPAGANDA for hundreds of years. But it came into full play in the USA with the Reagan years in all possible categories, such as: economy, commerce, business, politics, finance, entertainment, sports, religion, education, etc. Putin intensified the predatory ruthless scheme to a highly targeted level by not only using HUMAN ASSETS but ALL MEDIA RESOURCES available, particularly television and internet; concentrating on the venal, CORRUPT, uninformed, IGNORANT, and GULLIBLE political/religious right. This Infiltration/Manipulation is CURRENT and ONGOING. To wit: Tucker Carlson, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Comer, Tuberville, trumpeviks, magaviks, q'anoneviks, fundamentalists, right wing media,... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Crudely but accurately stated, Trump and the religious/political right are Putin's 'butt boys' - (though Trump is particularly 'special' in that regard). That goes for the ENTIRE POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS RIGHT THROUGHOUT the PLANET. Think Europe, India, Africa, etc. The MUSCOVITE BRAINWASHING has been PROFUSE. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The right planned hundreds of years into the future. The left was lazy, and in many instances, arrogant and unsophisticated about reality. The consequences and results of lack of counter-action are self-evident and on full display. -- The only long-term answer: EDUCATION, education, education. With real SOLUTIONS and absolute, actual RESULTS. Not following through would be terminal. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- Everything Trump does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC. *** Trump IS a LIAR. So he has been his entire life. It's both his NUMBER ONE PERSONAL IDENTIFIER and his PROFESSION. Ditto for his progeny. Everything the Trump Organized Crime Family does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC. Always. The Trump Organized Crime Family MODUS OPERANDI: Delay, Delay, Delay. Deny, Deny, Deny. And above all: LIE, LIE, LIE. - In conjunction with: Cheat, Blackmail, Coerce, Bribe, CORRUPT, Deceive, Defraud, Dupe, GRIFT, LAUNDER muscovite-russian state criminal assets/monies, Steal, DENY RESPONSIBILITY, REFUSE ACCOUNTABILITY, THREATEN, INCITE VIOLENCE, Assault, Attack, Hate, COMMIT TREASON, COMMIT HIGH TREASON, be utterly self-absorbed, self-adulating, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting braggarts, cretinous ignoramuses, arrogant entitled bigots and racists, narcissists, CRIMINAL THUGS, criminal TREASONOUS SOCIOPATHS, and criminal TREASONOUS PSYCHOPATHS. - And that's just for starters. --- --- --- --- The Trump Organized Crime Family members have LEARNED NOTHING IN LIFE. They are immeasurably, profoundly, unfathomably IGNORANT, flat-out stupid, MORALLY/ETHICALLY BANKRUPT, and EVIL. ALL IN Putin's POCKET, GOING ABOUT Putin's BUSINESS. FOLLOW the MONEY. - - - - - - - - - -
He had a big audience back then on KFI - the only radio station that made it through the concrete/metal buildings to reach the ears of workers who just wanted some background sound. I was asked to quit listening to the radio because apparently I was talking back to it and disturbing my colleagues. Now Im here in NC and trying to find talk shows on the radio and they are all Rush wannabes and I can’t listen to it. But plenty of people do.
So basically your friends chose God and chose to not follow the world or it's disgusting evil influences and you think they are wrong for that? Mabey your the one that made the wrong choice
This movement is growing and gaining strength here in Canada. My Provincial Premier welcomes this rhetoric. We are a very young country built on immigration. The backlash from Evangelicals is unprecedented. What happens in the States has a direct influence on Canada at every level of society. I am praying that Harris/Walz win in November and that the entire Republican Party is walloped. That will send a strong message to Canadians and the world.
Do these white people think really they can make America all white? It's never going to happen. The majority of Americans are people of color. All the nationalities! White people is not the majority anymore. United State of America we are United. 🤔
@@adriftinaboat3452 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own cunning.” 20 And again: “Jehovah knows that the reasonings of the wise men are futile.”
I can't believe they are so stupid as to think the gospel of prosperity is valid when it was invented by some crook in the 19th century. I am atheist but still if someone wants their religion to make some kind of sense, they should not invent stuff thousands of years after the 'real' story and pretend it's true while it completely contradicts the original message.
Spot on....and you only got one reply! And 21 thumbsups, what does that say about Americans and world religion? Do yourself a favour; Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
It always was, that is why it´s origin was in an area where people were analphabets and heathens., without any real culture. At the same time as it began, there were countries which had developed and had functioning cultures. In the middle ages the Christian explorers destroyed them. Incas, Aztecs, Maya etc. They forced their beliefs onto others, those who would not comply were tortured and killed. The US has to clamp down on christian nationalists.
I was raised a catholic and I don't remember it ever being like some extreme evangelicals today. You sinned during the week, went to confession on Sunday, and things were fine. And you voted for whoever you wanted to vote for. Politics wasn't really discussed.
That’s because it’s not true. Protestants hate Catholics its core to their faith. This guy just seems to be using the conspiracies of the catholic church from his days as an evangelical and attempting to use them for a secular audience. Anti catholic sentiment has been a consistent theme in the US, people used to think the Pope went after Lincoln.
@@jonathanvasquez2162pretty sure all those satanic scandals in Australia in the 70s-90s were catholic based. I mention this because it’s become a problem again with the elites in Hollywood today. Edited for spelling.
This is the kind of Catholic my grandfather was. He was a sinner during the week but went to confession and church on Sundays. He was very smart and had political opinions, but as far as I was aware, his opinions were not extreme. I do not recall politics or religion being discussed in my family, except occasionally and on a very basic level. It seems like religion (or at least the religion my grandpa practiced) "stayed in its own lane" much more and did not try to control every person and every aspect of life.
I’m a Southern California native and a Pittsburgh transplant having been here for 5 years and it’s crazy the stark contrast between the two places. Now that being said, even though the city itself is super diverse, drive 20/30 mins out of the city and the environment drastically changes into Christian Nationalist territory.
Not true. Christian here and I’m not a white Christian so do we count? No one interviews or cares what we think, despite being the ones the Christian nationalists oppose the most
Not only that, but they support it and agree with it, because they aren’t all that different and probably see themselves as more similar to that than anything else.
I was raised catholic in Ireland and the church ruled everything, education politics, opinions and there was so much judgement based on what the priest would say. I pushed back, challenged the church and was perceived to be a nuisance and shock of shocks a "feminist". Then I left and I now live happily as an atheist in Canada. When your in it you don't notice how overwhelming and pervasive it is because you're either with them or against them. Ireland has changed a lot but catholics still rule.
My gf is Irish millennial and she talks about how much things have changed in her lifetime. She went to art school in an old repurposed laundry. She said they still had women there working laundry in the early 2000s. Those women had no where else to go and nothing else to do and so the government cut them a deal basically, and ended up working for the school. My gf said she took joy in the school hanging up subversive art (often with religious or counter religious themes) in the old halls of that place. When I go back and dig into the still living history they is very recent for our times in how horrible the catholic-state regime was, it's shocking. Probably the worst I'd seen was about the mother and baby homes and the effectively orphaned kids being treated as pure byproducts of sin, fully neglected as little souls. Watched a man basically in tears describing how they would leave the kids diapers unchanged for days, and there was 5 times higher child mortality in those places because of the negligent neglect. How they are otherwise so good at covering up things and they cultivate the image of being for humanity and the humane. It's the opposite. And all these Americans that are skeptical of government, they aren't skeptical enough of their religions becoming part of the government, or in the case of Catholics, the religion itself effectively having a government. Always perplexed me they ever questioned things enough. And my dad gets giddy to this day talking about how bad the atheist communists for being militantly against religion, can't see these artifacts of even recent history with the Catholics, "well that was then, and people are sinners." And I'm like, that's exactly my point! Being devoted to the biggest wine tasting club doesn't make you a better person!
Im sorry to hear of your oppression under the heavy Catholic influence. I’m a person of Irish ancestors, born in the U.S. who recently immigrated to Mexico. As a pagan, it’s been challenging to be here where it’s so religiously conservative. Sad how a Ireland and Mexico have lost so much of their indigenous spirituality, dominated by the Catholic Church. One day, we were invited to a family dinner of my husbands cousin, who is very devout. She has invited a visiting priest and I immediately pegged him as an arrogant, controlling narcissist. Seems like if they give almost unlimited power, that’s who they will attract..
@@down-to-earth-mystery-schoolMany now call themselves atheist but I often wonder if they knew the pagan or more indigenous spiritual nature of their ancestry, would they be atheist. I don't like the term atheist, to me it is someone who has lost all curiosity as they've rejected the status quo Christian government framework, which is in no way mystical, curious or spirited.
@@noglobowhat difference does it make? Honest question. You’re idealizing pre-industrial, agrarian forms of religion. It’s all the same. The Incas and the Aztecs used religion for mayhem too.
Diversity IS NOT antiamerican. When people say "I love America" in the context of religion, they're making a racist remark. America does not belong to this or that group! It belongs to ALL that were born and live in it. Being a true nationalist and patriot means RESPECTING ALL THE PEOPLE BORN IN A COUNTRY AND WHO LIVE IN SAID COUNTRY. You're not a TRUE nationalist or patriot if you hate people different than you just because they're different.
I'm glad we are FINALLY talking about this.... I grew up in OC as well and was homeless in the 80s. I was constantly accosted by christians wanting to "save" me.
It’s interesting because people like Jimmy Carter say he grew up during a time when you were supposed to leave politics out of religion but I guess that is rare.
@@celestialtreetarot4260 It may have been less rare in certain areas. But I did not have any sense of this. I figured what I grew up around was the norm - and living on the streets I was not tuned into what was things were like elsewhere. It wasn't until much later that I realized how extremist it was. There was a lady involved with the juvenile justice system who was a major force behind the satan scare of the 80's - she is now very involved with the OC catholic diocese today. This woman (Darlynne Pettiniccio sp?) literally destroyed childrens lives. My brother was one of them - he died at an early age.
They're still trying that sh¡t. Why do you think most people without shelter don't want to stay there. Most cross promote ie "we feed both the body and the soul". Requiring mandatory church attendance, late afternoon curfews (regardless of the time people require for work), prayer group and more. Last study I read said that 60% of homeless shelters/emergency beds were provided by faith based groups. Hindu, Wiccan, Jewish, Budist, Native American...tough f@#!$ng luck! It's no wonder people unfamiliar with the plight of the homeless misconstrue why they refuse to go to these places!?? They, themselves, would refuse them as well, should they ever find themselves forced to pray and how to pray and wen to pray...just for a roof for a night. F@#$ religious asshats like that...they blow!
P.s orange county also has a lot of neo Nazi skin heads and ,there are also unfortunately tons of extremely conservative Latinos( there are some even starting to embrace racist and white nationalist views ) and Asians ( some have similar views ) . lol I used to go to school at orange high school and walk past Chapman University all the time lol.
I live in Dallas ,Texas an even more conservative place and just like you and this guy in the video say , orange county and even other parts of southern California aren't as liberal as people here in the south think .Some have this very stereotypical image of California, that just isn't the reality .Btw there are thousands of transplants from orange county and LA in DFW area here in North Texas , ironically many are the conservatives from California that left .
Very interesting: I grew up in Riverside, CA in the 60s and didn't even know I was Jewish until this decade. I was not raised with racism but I saw it, sometimes. My neighborhood had many different kinds of folk and we were all working class.
This explains and reveals a lot. Thank you. At age 6, I questioned my Catholic Catechism classes and at my Confirmation interview with my Pastor, my answers to his questions about what receiving the Holy Spirit meant to me made him cry inconsolably.
I'm a so CA native who graduated HS in 1979 and never considered this premise but in hind sight think it's an accurate chronological account of the white Christian nationalist movement. Fortunately I got kicked out of Catholic Sunday school when I was 9 yo for being disruptive after a nun who was teaching us Genesis lost it and tried to attack me because I kept asking her where dinosaurs came from. Fortunately I ducked her attack and never returned.
Every time I hear/read stories like this, I'm grateful to have grown up under my grandpa's minestry, where he wanted us to learn from other religions and cultures, and would perform magic tricks during his sermons 😂 I shit you not, he called them "illustrations," and it was his excuse to pull out his bag of tricks and keep people entertained during his service
@@munkeefinkelbeen5395 I grew up in a single parent household and my mother worked full time to support my older brother and I. Fortunately my mother taught us some important foundational values like a belief in the importance of education, most important egalitarianism which gave me the confidence to challenge people wielding authority to oppress others, self sufficiency and a work ethic. Back in the 1960's and 70's the salary and benefits of a single family bread winner included full heath insurance and a company pension and was sufficient to own a modest car home and a car. At 96 yo my mother still receives that pension each month. All that changed in 1980 after Reagan and Republicans took over and began incrementally imposing a long term class warfare political and economic strategy to incrementally transfer the wealth of the middle class to the richest 5% by busting the labor unions, deregulating Wall St. ignoring Anti-Trust laws to consolidate American industry into cartels and monopolies that looted employee pension funds and outsourced millions of American jobs to third world sweat shops. Which created Americas Rust Belt on Reagans watch.
Not true. Jesus told his disciples not to preach or go into the lands of the gentiles to spread the word. He also told a women asking for healing that she was basically not worthy and he degraded her pretty bad.
Fourth generation OC native. The Jesus Revolution was written about my life. I mean, Chuck Smith's daughter was my kindergarten teacher. Despite all of this indoctrination, I am the first atheist Progressive in my family.
I truly believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. When people like the CN's openly advocate against his teachings, while calling themselves "Christians" -- it's the worst thing a human could do.
I believe in a lot of them too, so does the legal profession and legislature of every civilised state and government ! Except maybe Russia under current admin ! Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
26:35 Almost everyone coming from a secluded American Christian Community who travel abroad for an extended period get an eye-opening experience affecting their World view. Unfortunately most of American culture is based on Confederate ideas and too many never evolve from it.
We have Irish catholic relatives in Anaheim, they loved Reagan and now, they love Trump, some of them are visiting us soon here in Australia and I will be avoiding them completely.
Reagan was used by the far right as is trump - it makes sense. I feel for you. Plan something very nice for yourself that unfortunately coincides with their arrival. Something like a non- refundable trip to somewhere they are not
feel bad for ya! Pls know that most of us irish americans are antitrumpers always have been, and many of us are liberals, such as myself, a middle aged man.
Being french-canadian, learning catholics are behind a lot of this breaking down of the separation between church and politics is chilling and kind of illuminating. Back in the early nineteenth century, the catholic church in Canada was a moribund leftover from the french ancien régime. But through an alliance with anglo-american capital during industrialization it revived and amassed immense power and influence as a public institution, which in exchange could use ideology and superstition to keep a mostly materially and educationally poor majority in check. This is why when the "quiet revolution" hit in the 60s, french canadians aspired not only to overthrow foreign dominance in the economy, for instance by nationalizing hydroelectricity, but at the very same time overthrew the power of the catholic church. Because of this, french canadian culture today is rabidly secularist and allergic to anything religious, especially women for obvious reasons. So from here it's depressing seeing the US slowly going the opposite direction in the same time frame, but it's certainly not surprising this is happening through an alliance with capitalists who couldn't give two shits about religion but are adept at using it for political control, and christian nationalism in that sense is a perfect fit for american culture.
You nailed it. This insanity is all about Power (Avarice too) and assuring that Power by Controlling and Oppressing the masses. I agree with everything you warn about, except one thing: the US is now rapidly going in the opposite direction after slowly going there in the same time frame. Thank you, neighbor. Canadians must be awfully concerned, too. I am always grateful for the kindness and compassion of my Canadian friends. Following is just a simple outline of the bigger picture we're up against. Disheartening. Now we have these demographic forces who collude or leverage them to promote and elect a Malignant Narcissistic Psychopath who curries their favor (at least until he has absolute power, in his mind, and as their useful idiot in some of their minds), to gain the highest position in the world, if only because of its wealth, military might, technical advances, and nuclear weapons: 1) the White (even if they disguise their profound racist bigotry for votes) Christian Nationalists 2) Oligarchs and their Corporations/Industries and their paid shills 3) Mainstream Media (MSM) swallowed up by Oligarchs who now own and control the propaganda output of the majority print, radio, television network and cable news 4) Political Party Elected Officials who are Maga and chameleon republicans 5) Enemy Foreign Country Leaders intent on our destruction 6) Foreign Country Leaders whose perks and bribes can influence (and have influenced) those in office for their benefit 7) all the brainwashed voters who are influenced by beliefs, actions, or the propaganda machine from the above, or the core cult of personality voters whose indoctrination was driven directly by the cult leader hating the same people they hate. 8) or the wealthier voters who elect those whose policies are more profitable to them regardless of ill effects on others. 9) The Supreme Corruption: The Corrupted Supreme Court as the ultimate authority and other consequential courts of authority who are facilitating the criminal actions of those who are tapped to usurp our freedoms and progress, as well as their own constitutional defying subversion of the same. VOTE BLUE, VOTE DEMOCRAT/PROGRESSIVE DOWN BALLOT, AS IF YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF THOSE YOU LOVE DEPENDED ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES. We are in for a bumpy ride for years to come. The United States of America is on the precipice of FACISM, right now, and the foundation of Fascism, already at work from within our power structures, already disrupting the checks and balances meant to safeguard against it, might be a force to reckon with for an unforeseeable future into the next century. VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 2024
On peut chialer sur le catholicisme mais cela fait partie de notre culture en tant que Canadien français et c'est aussi la raison pourquoi nous n'avons pas été assimilé par l'empire britannique alors qu'il essayait de nous noyer à l'aide de l'immigration anglophone européenne.
True that but even for the most open minded "Americans" we'll always be seen as superstitious, backwards. What we "smoke" in spiritual ritual is a recreational past time for them. I guess we should be very grateful that they even reference us
The only true " native" humans are the ones living in the rift valley in Africa. That's the birthplace for humans. And like rats we have spread around the world 😊
His podcast is called "The Straight White American Jesus Podcast?" That's genius, trick the ones who need to hear it into listening. How many people get 5 minutes in and are like "What the hell man?!"
It's a fantastic podcast. His cohost also does a weekly series within SWAJ called "It's in the Code," that breaks down how common Chrisrian phrases are used within the Christian Right.
Christian nationalism is not a holy body. Jesus did not hurt anybody who didn't believe in him or messages. Actually he told his deciples to no be violent. Children nationalism is all about hate. Christ would not approve of them.
Theyve been forced together by the overwhelming amount of degeneracy being pushed by gobernment and society in the west. No time for infighting. The far left has pushed them together sort of like how they pushed China and Russia together.
Did you know that there are "advisory" businesses that unite these churches with fees and these businesses are currently listed as non-profit churches by the IRS? So basically remember - this is class warfare. Rich elites vs the rest of peasants. The middlemen peasants are just there for profit and power. The rest are sheep fighting for powers that go against the sheep's intererest interests.
13:45 As someone who grew up and was intentionally raised in that enviornment, what I saw was Preachers, sunday school teachers, and other church leaders would take events that were happening and apply a spiritual purpose or cause to it. I remember this most when the Columbine HS shooting happened. They claimed that god was punishing the godless liberals in Colorado for their sins and it was a warning to the rest of the christian community about what happens when you take god of schools (referencing the Engel v Vitale supreme court ruling). Same thing was done with Hurricane Katrina. So a narrative was developed from these events that we were being punished for our collective sin and if we didn't get involved in politics and steer the country back to the mythologised christian roots that the guest described, then we were going to become like the Roman Empire or Israel and Judea before, when they were conquered and overrun by other nations (often citing China, and then later "the muslim jihadists".
bingo! Repugnant stuff by pastors re gun violence. These pastors are personality-disordered narcissists as anyone with any brains is well aware of at this point in history. We must stand up to this and challenge it in every way possible: resist thru both words and thru social shunning at this point! Often the idea that we must engage them is wrong. When they are radicalized and show hatred, they need social ostracization. Dn't by their plumbing services, their products etc. I am vetting the ppl i buy such services from now!
It's deeply disappointing to see Brad Onishi, someone of Asian heritage and a person of color, perpetuating narratives that align with white Christian nationalism. Given his background, one would expect him to understand the damaging effects of racial stereotypes and the importance of challenging them. Instead, his stance appears to betray the very communities he is a part of, aligning with ideologies that historically have oppressed people of color. Brad should recognize the responsibility he carries as a person of color to challenge and dismantle these harmful narratives, not reinforce them. His position is not only a disservice to the truth but also to the very communities that continue to suffer under the weight of these racist ideologies. It's a shame that he chooses to support a version of history and theology that contradicts the inclusive and diverse nature of the real message of Christianity.
Epoch Times is owned by a Chinese Christian billionaire l, they have RUclips channels, he was recently charged with some major crime - I think it was embezzlement
41:28 Ironic that Catholics were prohibited from holding government office or paid positions in the government, it makes more sense now than ever. The Catholic Church says that says that abstinence is the best form of birth control. …tell that to the Virgin Mary
Thank you for bringing Brad on! This was so important to hear & discuss how do we decode this ideology & de-radicalize folks. Would love to hear more on this.
@@SixOneNiner23 His followers are still trying to scrub the web of any reference to his connections with the klan or Jim Jones to this day, last I heard.
@@CriticalThoughtCritique a lot of stuff we don’t know, I’ve seen pictures of him with Bibi and Sadam, and the new Trump “prophets” claim to seek his mantle. 😫
So they want to create something like a christian version of Iran. My opinion is that religion should remain a personal matter. Religion and politics mixed together is the perfect breeding ground for tyranny.
Raised in southern baptist church. Id go visit catholic churches every once in a while. I have NEVER in my 20 something years of church going heard any of them align with ANY politician. I don't go to church anymore, but I see tons of preachers/pastors mixing the "war against principalities" and siding with evangelicals and the right. The white churches never had rhetoric in the areas i went to, but Im sure there were some. None of the black churches ever sided with political messages.
Father and I (North Carolina) went to two baptist churches last year. They both preached politics from the pulpit. We walked out partway through. Father went onto a Catholic Church that doesn’t preach politics. I just stay home.
Im glad that radical Catholics were brought up. There was a catholic extremist juvenile probation officer in Orange County who was a big influence behind the satan scare in the 80's. She also was an anti- punk rock and anti-heavey metal crusader. She founded the "Back in Control Training Center of Orange" where she gave seminars for parents on how to de-punk and de-metal your kids. It involved destroying all their music paraphernalia, barring them from associating with any of their friends and in some instance putting bars on the kid's bedroom windows. She destroyed families and children. I witnessed it She actually testified in the trial against Judas Priest when the band was being sued for "causing two teens to commit suicide" (turned out it was probably their christian fundamentalist parents who were to blame). Today she is has been involved with the catholic diocese of Orange County where she has been doing PR work for the diocese in the wake of some sexual abuse scandals.
I’m from Orange County ca and am bi racial . I can definitely say that it was a very different place and the older I get the more I reflect and think about the things I went through and how deeply it affected my point of view . I was always matching descriptions according to police 👮♀️ which later me me a very angry / rebellious youth. The anxiety that my friends didn’t have to experience still affects me today, and it’s hard to explain how different it was for me than them . There are good people out there, but don’t be naive it can be hard if your different .
Mankind is a single Homogeneous "Race", there is no such thing as 'bi -racial", please read a book occasionally, you're definitely confused, by myths and lies!😊😅
My story is similar to yours, grew up in the 70’s and 80’s in Texas. It was my love for the natural world (creation) and then degrees in the sciences, and then 9/11 that revealed the incompatibility of Fundamentalist Evangelical belief system and my own. I was taught a 6000 yr old planet, that we are not related to animals. It isn’t possible to study biology, geology, and chemistry at a high level without conflict. It became impossible to check my brain at the door and be fed misinformation about Muslims, vaccines, DNA, stem cells, abortion, races, American history, the founding fathers etc etc. And then you add TV Evangelists, mega churches, toxic masculinity, and the business of selling Jesus. Thank you for this discussion, my guess is there are many of us who have chosen to walk away and instead use our brain to critically think so our lives can be authentic in how we believe.
In the Quran - more than once - God says (paraphrased) that we are to use the brain given us. God also says that there are those who can not see and can not hear and that we are to leave those to God for it is he that has made them so.
Heh... I just posted a quote from him in response to one of their comments. His book is "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America"
What a fantastic articulate guest! Will definitely check out his work. The Opus Dei connection totally makes sense. I'm in Australia and am a veteran of opposing Opus Dei on my university campus in Sydney. The university gave land and money on campus for them to build a college dorm and conduct their secret business. They have never been an active part of the wider university community and don't have very many public lecture programs or interface within the university or the wider community to speak of. Fun fact, (sort of) Mel Gibson was influenced by Opus Dei and eventually he became even more extreme through the influence of his father. His parents are of Irish (Catholic) heritage, father American, mother Australian. Mel built a church in Malibu, The Church of the Holy Family/Church of Mel which does only Latin mass and is not only critical of the Vatican but has extreme anti abortion and anti contraception views, the same as Mel. There's anti semitism and racism also in the mix. It's always valuable to get the long view for a proper historical reference point on what we can see and understand in the present and this interview reaches back even to the Mayflower in some respects imo.
Brad Onishi and I have a similar story, then. I was raised in this. At one point, from 2016 to 2020, I was completely devoted to Jesus. All I cared about was Jesus and people. But I looked around and found myself alone. Everyone at church was, at best, distracted by their lives and where we were going for Sunday lunch. At worst, they were mixing Americanism with Christianity and diluting the potent message of Christ. They didn't seem to really care about Jesus, and many didn't seem to care about people. So I left. There was a time I also could've been a Christian nationalist because I was surrounded by the seeds of it in my earlier life (before 2016). It's ultimately ironic, then, that what saved me from that life was being devoted to Jesus' message.
I was at two different weddings where the couples were brought up in this tradition. At both weddings the fathers of the bride and groom gave ~20 minute speeches where (the fathers) were the center piece of the wedding. And of course God. Absolutely bizarre because the day should have been about the bride and groom.
This is the first time I have heard anyone express the belief and understanding that Catholic ideology has crept into traditional Protestant beliefs. I, for one, totally agree. I also grew up in a traditional Protestant church and experienced the creep of Catholicism. I converted to being a “none” a long time ago and I am terrified of the “New America”.
disappointing that these types of hard conversations are often the least watched. thanks for this one - sobering... :: looks up local progressive groups to build community with again::
@kbakhurin I think it goes beyond the nature of the conversation. I think if it's a serious conversation exceeding 10 soundbites, it's "too heavy" (for many).
The interview ended hopeful. Remember how people tried to connect Brexit with the election win of Trump. As sort of a canary in the coal mine that we didn't see coming. If that holds any weight then we just saw Britain and France go left. People are tired of chaos and the only chip the Right has to bet is chaos.
@@juqual78 same here! Thank goodness that my extremist, theocratic religious upbringing failed to eliminate the logical, questioning mind that GOD gave me! It’s literally been my saving grace, lol!
@carisaunders2346 Very similar to the great George Carlin's story. He had brains, logic & thought critically at a young age. This didn't work with the catholic church.
I have all my family and neibors who have fell into this racist trying to start gog and magog in Ky.I am the only one who realized this was not in line with Christ.I feel so dissapointed.There are no racist intellectuals and i am heartbroken
From and Australian perspective: another fantastic interview that helps me understand the terrible weirdness of Yankee politics! Thanks so much Sam and Emma!
I'd have liked to hear more of what the woman on the panel had to say. I get that Sam was excited, but presumably the woman was there because she had useful insights, and I'd like to have heard them.
This was a really good and enlighting interview, especially for me from Europe where the American Evangelism and Megachurches is already hard to grasp. Would very much like more of Brad Onishi and the topic in general to understand better what driver (religious) right wing politics as it is so very different then here.
Futurist dispensational doctrines were introduced by the CI Scofield Referance Bible published by Oxford Press in 1909 and freely distributed throughout the US. These doctrines and practices form the foundation of Evangelical Christianity. Americans also believe we won WWII n saved the world, by the grace of God, so all our wars are just. Combine the two... global evangelical backed US hegemony. I am Christian BTW.
God is not color blind! There is no such thing as a white person. We all came from different backgrounds. God made all of us. You are no better than anyone else. 😌 Real Christians do not use any type of violence. Love thy neighbor!
Jesus wasn't a white person: He was a brown-skinned, Middle Eastern Jew. Jesus wasn't a Christian; he was a Jew. Jesus was a rebel. If Jesus was here today, he would be hanging out with the homeless, the drug addicts, the poor, the persecuted, the hungry, and the lost. He would gather crowds and followers without trying and the powers to be would see him as a threat and probably lock him up for gathering in numbers without a permit.
Christianity is interpreted as non-violent in the turning of the other cheek. But the story is really about daring the other to increase the legal jeopardy of the assailant.
I was Baptised with my Brothers and Sisters, at the Church of Christ. Located in Raleigh, North Carolina on the westside of the city. Our Beautiful Church was modest,though we had it going on! Gospel Choir which i was invited to join . After Church Services, we Sisters would visit our Church Members in hospice and hospitals, we would sing their favorite Gospel Hymns ❤️! We took care of our Community with Love and Sharing all we had with one another ❤️ Bible Study before the Pastor's Sermon! We were Family❤ This was TRUE RELIGION ❤
@davidjohnzenocollins I beg to pardon. We lived all over Raleigh and Garner North Carolina. Our Community was Our Church. So Yes I beg to differ from what you have stated! Have a Blessed Day.
Hit them w this fact: none of the gun bans ever sought to make illegal the hundreds of handguns and hunting rifles. The only bans were on military style ones were you can spray hundreds of rounds in seconds. Glocks and all other guns were never on the ban list!!
@@Tad-For-Global-Peace I actually have no issue with people owning weapons like that. My issue is with the regulations required to get them. They argue that their 2nd amendment right will not be infringed upon, yet they're fine with trump changing the constitution. I'm fine with mental health checks and private sales requiring registration, which they are opposed to.
I left the church mentally at 8. I had to keep going of course till I left the house at 18, but I was an advanced reader, curious about what the hell my pastor was blathering about every Sunday. So I read the bible, cover to cover. That was enough for me to call bullshit lol. (I also blame the mid century sci fi authors I was consuming like pizza at that time). My brother is in the "quiver full" movement and is an active fash ist, isolating and indoctrinating his kids or "little Christian soldiers" as he said before I went no contact. How different young minds react to the brainwashing. EDIT to say: it was Methodist though, and we were hated by the Baptists as being not "real Christians" even back then, because we were honestly just more liberal than they were. So I'm also lucky in that I was more easily able to escape. My Grandma was very progressive and we had hundreds of books, plus she took us to the library all summer, every two weeks, 7 books at a time checkout :).
My mother dragged us to church too. I could never make heads or tails of anything that was going on there. Everything the minister said went in one ear and out the other. I couldn’t understand why my Sunday school teachers were pretending to believe obvious fairy tales about arcs and loaves of bread. She gave up on taking us when I was about 15-16. Then, one evening I bumped into a friend who had become a “Jesus Freak”. His group managed to brainwash me into getting saved, and joining them. That lasted less than 24 hours. After that, I read a couple of books on cults. To this day (I’m 62), I still feel a bit brain damaged from all this religious propaganda.
@@paulpfeifer2612 I did in some ways, although I did challenge her, but I always wonder how ALL her kids and grandkids ended up being racist isolated weirdos except for me.
The Catholic Church removed and moved all its gold in storage from the USA a few years ago. I think that says it all as to what they are expecting to happen here.
I’m old enough to remember when Jimmy Carter used his Christianity as the basis for inclusion and goodwill to all. Things have changed.
He was an actual “Christian” so of course the Christian Right did everything to get Raygun elected 🤔
And if you know, you know. It was under Carter (but actually started under Ford, Carter was blamed for it). Bob Jones and many other Christian schools and private schools that popped up in the wake of civil rights were being threatened with IRS and their tax exemption status. To them it meant existential war and utter betrayal by Carter - even though technically had nothing to do with Carter and everything to do with their own racism and bigotry. They was 1977 if I recall correctly. They voted for him then, and then 1980 the southern strategy was effectively in full swing and traditionally democrat conservatives shifted over to Republican. 1980 you had refan elected, but also had Buchanan declaring the culture war. 9/11 really was a crusade to them. And the rest is history. They're just going to get worse and worse and there's no going back. And to a large degree, the freaks are running the show. So we're going back to the reformations and wars of religion, because America was except from that history and never learned from it. Weeee
That's because Jimmy is a true Christian.
I remember when Jimmy said he was attacked by a giant rabbit, had lust in his heart.
When he admitted that he talked to Amy about nuclear weapons I knew he was toast.
@@faustinreeder1075 I live in california and saw a HUGE jackrabbit running down the street in the middle of the night. IT was as big as a big dog, like a great dane. It freaked me out. I thought about Carter's encounter when that happened. That rabbit was fast, too! hah! Seriously, I did not know that rabbits could be THAT big. It wasn't a jackelope, that's an urban myth. I can see where it comes from, since jackrabbits have stubby ears compared to rabbits, but boy, that dude was huge, and fast, lol. poor thing, he must've gotten lost and was scared, i'd never seen a jackrabbit before in cali, though they're indigenous
Nazis wore crosses on their uniforms too. If your faith is predicated on exclusion, it’s not faith it’s fear.
Untrue, The the belt buckle of the German Army Uniform said "God is with us". The German Army gear had a Cross on it, a left over from the Franco Prussia War.
@@ronaldbobeck9636All false Idols,
@@ronaldbobeck9636 The Nazis were a "Christian" movement.
Jesus actually said he came to set people against each other. You can’t serve God and the Devil. You can’t be open to everything because that means good and evil means nothing. The moment you stand for something then by definition you are standing against other things
People on the left seem to be eternally stuck as victim/child energy types in various ways who want to always be accepted exactly as they are. A good example of the Drag Queen thing. They feel the urge to go and teach other peoples children to be tolerant of them. Or for Trans people to accepted as real men or women by everyone else
They can’t tolerate people not wanting them. They force it down everyone’s throat. Showing zero empathy for others deeply held beliefs. Then gas lighting then by saying they have no empathy lol
Delusional really.
Religion Is Mind Control / Delusion & Fear. That's All...
The nationalism overrides the Christian part. The Jesus part is just a cover story to make them appear palatable.
I think it's a mistake to think that way. Their religious convictions are largely sincere. That doesn't make them valid, valuable, or valorous. They're decisively not.
@@50iraqidinar Nah most of them don't even go to Church at all,i used to lie all the time i was a Christian while not believing anything 😂
@@50iraqidinar this is hugely important. we need to be supporting the deconstruction movement, some of the biggest wins for progressive christianity will be there.
Facts
Yep
⚠️ Religious organizations that engage in politics should pay taxes and are mandated to do so.
Yes, no free lunch !
@@linmal2242 except for kids, poor people, the house-bound, the elderly, prisoners, physically challenged...Come on! Food is a human necessity.
I guarantee you you wouldn’t go to any mosque in New York City and say that. You’re just prejudice against Christians.
President Grant tried but failed with over 500 pages of signatures, or at least from what I have read anyway. Still, it seems the only way to end it all is to outlaw the hebrew god altogether from existing.
Definitely and these crazy people should be jailed as enemies of democracy.
This is why I left Christianity and religion as a whole. I'm a believer, but not a follower.
yep they have abused his name, and literally wrecked religion for two generations so far!!!
Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
@@linmal2242 thank you!
I went to a megachurch last Sunday with a shirt that read ‘Liberation for Palestinians’ on it. I was forcefully grabbed by their security force and forced out of the building (I did not resist in any way, but they couldn’t help but put their hands on me. I was complying.), and then was told that they would legally pursue me if I came back. These people can’t even stand to be in the same room as someone with a different political opinion than their own. How are we supposed to get through to people who cant stand a simple t-shirt? I want to be able to talk to these people, but they don’t even want to be in the same room as someone different than themself.
Dang. That might be a good way to have a lawsuit and get some easy money 🤔
They should lose their tax exempt status if a shirt that wasn’t offensive in the least caused them to react that way. It’s not like you were staring God wasn’t real or something
That's appalling. I was at a Presbyterian church which encouragingly had Rev. Munther Isaac, a Palestinian Christian pastor, over to give a talk, and he spoke about how much of American Christianity is much different than the Christianity where he comes from, which emphasises humility, pacificism and and sacrifice as opposed to the prosperity gospel and militarism of many American churches.
no religion approves of their behaviour. they are a cult of hate
And then they cry when their opinions aren’t respected.
There are plenty of Christians who see the cross as separate from the flag and are willing to respect the faith of others. The problem is we don't have a megaphone.
Thank you very much for giving this man a platform.
Unfortunately the ones with the megaphone are bots from malignant foreign governments who use the internet to stir up civil unrest and shape public opinion. All you have to do is pay or blackmail religious leaders to say that Jesus has appeared to them to say God is on Trump's side to get them to blindly follow a dictator. We are not a theocracy, we are a democracy. These bible thumping gun toting extremists are no better that Muslim extremists. If the Christian Nationalists take over, we are no longer a democracy.
Conservative radio has played a significant role (pre-internet) in spreading ideas and vitriol.
Yes, perfecting propaganda
Still does. It's awful.
Extremely simplified information - necessary for comprehension of current political situation in the USA - which, like it or not, impacts the whole world.
As currently on view in the USA, the FASCIST SCAM started over a hundred years ago when Coors (as in Coors beer) put together a fascist right wing group and agenda to counter the socialist progressive policies that were beginning to be implemented in America.
The protestant groups, such as the evangelicals, baptists, assemblies, etc., were chosen for this project PRECISELY and INTENTIONALLY, because they were NAIVE, incredibly IGNORANT, and very EASILY and READILY MANIPULATED.
Money, capitalism, power, fascism, plutocracy, and oligarchy were and are the singular goals, the absolute objectives; though most of the deluded members of these cults are not aware of these things and would die defending this con.
These ultra right wing barrons knew it would take some time for this cold-blooded, purposeful contrivance to work its way to the forefront, but it started to bear fruit in the 50's, showed up in force in the Reagan 80's, the Gingrich Congress, Dubya's era, Delay's Congress, the Claremont Institute, the Heritage Foundation (and many others like it), Mercer, Cambridge Analytica, etc., and came to full, grim, nightmarish fruition with the REPUBLICANeviks, TRUMPeviks, MAGAviks, Q'ANONeviks, etc.; with the RIGHT WING, conservative, fascist MEDIA at their side AMPLIFYING the SOPHISTRY/MESSAGING 24/7. --- --- ---
Point: FOX media is NOT a NEWS outlet. It deals strictly in dissemination of ULTRA-RIGHT wing fascist, republicanevik, trumpevik, magavik, q'anonevik, fundamentalist, racist, etc., LIES and PROPAGANDA.
(Think Moscow's PRAVDA.)
FOX actively promoted
seditious lies regarding
the last american
presidential election,
was caught and sued,
settled out of court and
paid close to a billion
dollars in settlement
fees to Dominion.
Smartmatic is in
process of suing.
Little, if anything, has
changed.
(Although there is now
one very capable,
democracy and truth
supporting journalist
who, when she is on,
very intelligently
refutes all the lies.)
FOX wholeheartedly
(almost singlehandedly)
but alongside such media
as OANN, NEWSMAX,...
and all the ultra-right
political/religious RADIO PROGRAMMING,
[which by the way is
particularly brutal in
the vile, vicious lies it
spreads, being fiercely
anti-education,
anti-science, very pro
muscovite-russian state
fascism, pro-Orban,
pro-Putin, misogynistic,
racist, etc.],
CONTRIBUTED TO the incalculable degree of IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY WITHIN the american populace;
CONTRIBUTED TO the absolute harsh oligarchical plutocratic fascist CORPORATE CONTROL of the LIVES of american citizens for the absolute WORSE and spiraling downward;
CONTRIBUTED TO the horrendously NEGATIVE STATE of affairs regarding the condition of economic PROSPERITY,
WELLBEING, and physical/medical/mental HEALTH of american citizenry; and
CONTRIBUTED TO the DELIBERATE CRIMINAL FASCIST DISARRAY within the USA government.
This is NOT an exaggeration.
--- --- --- --- ---
It is, in fact, a STATISTIC
that if you watch FOX
(or watch and listen to other such right-wing outlets),
you are (kindly phrased) SIMPLE-MINDED.
And the more you watch/listen to/read the rightwing media, the more DENSE and BRAINLESS you become. --- --- ---
It would take hundreds of years of deprogramming - and that with limited success - to start to solve this problem, if at all possible, because it was done under the auspices of religion. The naive left fell prey to right wing pr and did absolutely nothing to counteract this nefarious scheme. It was dismissed as under the sponsorship and guidance
of 'religion.'
They were afraid to touch that system model.
Instead, they actually helped cater to it, particularly during the Reagan and Dubya era.
- - - - - - -
The so-called 'christian right' is NOT Christian.
They are old testament fundamentalist reconstructionists and dominionists. There are varieties within those; most of which are beyond hypocritical, predatory, fraudulent, grifting, larcenous, and CRIMINAL.
They do NOT follow the teachings of Christ as laid out in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the New Testament of the Bible.
The word 'christian' as applied to these people
is a
DELIBERATE MISNOMER.
-- -- -- -- -- --
Additionally, the Muscovite-Russian State has been plying its PROPAGANDA for hundreds of years.
But it came into full play in the USA with the Reagan years in all possible categories, such as:
economy, commerce, business, politics, finance, entertainment, sports, religion, education, etc.
Putin intensified the predatory ruthless scheme to a highly targeted level by not only using HUMAN ASSETS but ALL MEDIA RESOURCES available, particularly television and internet; concentrating on the venal, CORRUPT, uninformed, IGNORANT, and GULLIBLE political/religious right.
This Infiltration/Manipulation is CURRENT and ONGOING.
To wit: Tucker Carlson, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Comer, Tuberville, trumpeviks, magaviks, q'anoneviks, fundamentalists, right wing media,...
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Crudely but accurately stated, Trump and the religious/political right are Putin's 'butt boys' -
(though Trump is particularly 'special' in that regard).
That goes for the ENTIRE POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS RIGHT THROUGHOUT the PLANET.
Think Europe, India, Africa, etc. The MUSCOVITE BRAINWASHING has been PROFUSE.
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
The right planned hundreds of years into the future.
The left was lazy, and in many instances, arrogant and unsophisticated about reality.
The consequences and results of lack of counter-action are self-evident and on full display. -- The only long-term answer:
EDUCATION, education, education. With real SOLUTIONS and absolute, actual RESULTS.
Not following through would be terminal.
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Everything Trump does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC.
*** Trump IS a LIAR. So he has been his entire life.
It's both his NUMBER ONE PERSONAL IDENTIFIER and his PROFESSION. Ditto for his progeny.
Everything the Trump Organized Crime Family does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC. Always.
The Trump Organized Crime Family MODUS OPERANDI:
Delay, Delay, Delay.
Deny, Deny, Deny.
And above all:
LIE, LIE, LIE. -
In conjunction with:
Cheat, Blackmail, Coerce, Bribe, CORRUPT, Deceive, Defraud, Dupe, GRIFT, LAUNDER muscovite-russian state criminal assets/monies, Steal, DENY RESPONSIBILITY, REFUSE ACCOUNTABILITY, THREATEN, INCITE VIOLENCE, Assault, Attack, Hate, COMMIT TREASON,
COMMIT HIGH TREASON,
be utterly self-absorbed, self-adulating, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting braggarts, cretinous ignoramuses, arrogant entitled bigots and racists, narcissists, CRIMINAL THUGS, criminal TREASONOUS SOCIOPATHS, and criminal TREASONOUS PSYCHOPATHS. -
And that's just for starters.
--- --- --- ---
The Trump Organized Crime Family members have LEARNED NOTHING IN LIFE.
They are immeasurably, profoundly, unfathomably IGNORANT, flat-out stupid, MORALLY/ETHICALLY BANKRUPT,
and EVIL.
ALL IN Putin's POCKET, GOING ABOUT Putin's BUSINESS.
FOLLOW the MONEY.
- - - - - - - - - -
Well I do concede that Rush Limbaugh said there would be a dumbing down of America. I think that was an understatement.
Talk Radio ....men on long commutes trying to be smart
This is crazy! I’m a 78 year old woman. I grew up in Houston, and went to the Methodist Church. The Christianity I grew up with was about helping people, caring for people. The evangelicals have ruined it for me. Our pastors do not speak politically! I vote Blue!
Blue cities can’t even keep them clean and rise is crime. giving people free stuff isn’t being Christian that’s enabling them and they will never move up in the world teaching them how to grow their own food how to build that’s how you help people not telling them here sit on your ass I’ll give you whatever you want
Please don't allow them to make you doubt your faith in Christ.💯💜🙏🏽
@LucyBlue0823 Hold to your faith and know this. You are the right side of God's Word.
Yeshua the Social Justice Warrior.
Luke chp 4 verse 18) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach the Gospel to the poor; he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised.
His messages are directly aimed at the poor! Sorry Conservatives!
Yes, Yeshua/Jesus is a Liberal!
Proverbs chp 22 verse 22) Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, 23) for the Lord will take up their case and will exact life for life.
Isaiah chp 10 Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their pray and robbing the fatherless.
Ezekiel chp 22 verse 27) Her official's within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. 28) Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, This is what the Sovereign Lord has says'-when the Lord has not spoken. 29) The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery, they oppress the poor and the needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice.
Philippians chp 3 vs 18) For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now I tell you weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, 19) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their appetite and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.
20) For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ
Bless you!
I haven't been to church in years and am more spiritual than religious. However, all I do when I'm at a crossroads of what I may want to do, but need to consider what I should do is ask myself WWJD?...........that makes decisions easier.
By the way, most of the real believers do not think he was chosen by God. Many of us believe he fits perfectly for the anti-christ.
Agree 💯
That's right.
I think that he wasn’t chosen by God because he cheated to get in, but I feel that God used him to expose all the evil that he and his friends are about is kind of like God’s karma but show for us
@@MsTC867 agree 💯
Yup what i thought all along
I thought Christians were supposed to take care of the poor? 🤔
And protect the weak amongst them, clothed the naked, heal the sick, feed the hungry, comfort the one suffers, these people ARE NOT CHRISTIAN!
🤣😂🤣 yeah nah, that was never a thing.
No, that was Jesus’ job, and we are apparently not supposed to be like him because he was perfect, I guess
This is alleged to be from a witness to the first or very early Christians. How right wing does it sound? "All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need." - Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32-35
That's a lie Christians perpetuate to fool people into joining their cult.
Religion has no place in politics.
Jesus said that himself so I don’t understand why it is. He said his true followers would or should be no part of the world which would include worldly politics. 🤔
@Predominant1 Not in any country,it always ends in a disaster....
Even if most love to. And trying hard to …. Be in politics
Religion Has NO PLACE!
@@timmotel5804 Religion will be done away with soon.
Who said it? "When you grew up entitled, equality seems like oppression."
Facts!!!
When you've never been held accountable, accountability feels like persecution.
@@meliageckosong damned right!
damned right!
Yep Reggie told the truth
Apparently being religious doesn't mean being a decent person.
How can it, bowing down to an idea without any real proof, is a great big
falsehood.
@@maxfastest I mean duh. Islam has enslaved millions and look at what Israel is doing now
never has, never will. In fact, if you think about it, the people who are only good because they think they will get rewarded by god (heaven) for being so, are not actually good. It's the people who are good simply because it's the instincual best way to be that are the true moral people in this world.
Oh boy!! Can I weigh in on this one!! I have lived in Orange County off and on for 56 years!! I was transplanted here at 6 years of age from Northern California due to my grandmother's illness. I have never felt comfortable here! Always at odds with this exact topic!! I am a 61 yo progressive female. Fortunately the county now has more registered Democrats than Republicans. Unfortunately the scars of the conservative movement run deep here. I am hoping to relocate in the next year. It has been made more complicated because of my health issues.💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Scars? There are scars everywhere I guess if you're around the "wrong" place. We all have our comfort zones, thank God there is an Orange County you can go to, we all need a place even Northern Californians. I feel the hate, yeah.
I'm 63 and lived in SD for about 20 years. As a believer I felt the racism in OC when I did training or missions there as a Marine.
That is so true!!! My parents switched churches, leaving behind one they had attended for over 30 YEARS, to attend one which had a more theocratic, right-winged vocal, and frankly, noticeably more bigoted, sermons from the pulpit. So alarming and disappointing to watch them descend this cult-like rabbit hole of blindly conflating politics and religion. This is such a DANGEROUS movement!!!
My family has fallen victim to this too and I’m scared and confused. I want to try to help them see reason but I’m afraid of conflict because I was taught to be quiet and docile
@@rosie678100 I am in the same boat, raised in a very domineering patriarchal household where what “Dad/Husband/Grandpa” says, goes, and there is no questioning him or discussion, period. So much of how I was raised was intimately tied to very evangelical “Christianity” doctrine, BUT over the past 5+ years, the rhetoric and beliefs have taken an extremist turn, to which my upbringing even pales in comparison to! And the new way that politics has been merged with religion is something that was never part of my upbringing-it is a new, very dangerous brand of fanaticism that is comparable to the beliefs of The Crusaders…CLEARLY NOT SOMETHING JESUS WOULD EVER CONDONE OR WANT HIS NAME ATTACHED TO, that’s for sure!!!
But I am at a total loss of how to try to reach out to my afflicted family members, it truly feels like they have been indoctrinated into a terrifying, unhinged cult of extremists! God help us!!!
A very dangerous traitor cult
@@rosie678100The spiritual path is far more rewarding than the religious rabbit holes that have sprouted up out of politics. Spiritual inspiration is also more rewarding than politically motivated religious indoctrination. They are attempting to serve two tangible masters, while abandoning morals, integrity and content of character. Right is right no matter how many people are not doing it. Wrong is wrong no matter how many people are doing it. Be inspired spiritually because it promotes positive spiritual growth. Leave them to their political aspirations mixed with ever changing religious indoctrination. You cannot help someone who has found comfort in their own ignorance.
@@Fernando-s4q1h Excellent post! Fanned and Faved!
I have heard first person reports from former churchgoing American southerners regarding just how dramatically the church has changed JUST IN THE LAST 10-15 YEARS. Basically what has happened is that the vitriol and extremism and racism has just exploded.
The right says the opposite - that the Church has become 'woke.'
we elected a black president and their little heads just went Boom... sad :(
Over 25 years ago my Evangelical grandmother told me that the American flag was a sign from god that we, the "star people" were destined to rule over the "sand people". My takeaway was that she thought 'we' (mostly white American Christians) were meant to be superior to, and rule over, Middle Eastern people and to have control over Israel. This was shortly after 9/11, after all. I honestly don't remember if she even explained how she came to that conclusion because it was so nonsensical, but it just goes to show these seeds were sown a long time ago. My grandmother passed before Trump came into power, but if she were still here she would be worshiping him like the 2nd coming of Jesus. My mother (a divorced single mom mind you) who has always been Christian, also voted for him and bragged to me when he won. The kind of world my mom voted for is one in which she would be shamed for leaving my abusive alcoholic father. It's crazy to me how easily Evangelicals fall to their knees for Trump, even when it goes against their own interests.
They freaked out when Obama was elected
@@007ndc The irony is that Obama is half white and a full neocon warcriminal like every other president. 🥞🥞
I grew up in and still live in California. In the 80s and early 90s, everything was normal. Then, once we were teenagers, all my white friends’ families (I’m white too) suddenly became very religious, their kids began going to church youth groups, and they were no longer allowed to watch certain movies and listen to certain music.
I believe it was the effect of Rush Limbaugh really hammering into these people that they needed to be involved in the church as the church became more politically active, especially in Republican politics.
Extremely simplified information - necessary for comprehension of current political situation in the USA - which, like it or not, impacts the whole world.
As currently on view in the USA, the FASCIST SCAM started over a hundred years ago when Coors (as in Coors beer) put together a fascist right wing group and agenda to counter the socialist progressive policies that were beginning to be implemented in America.
The protestant groups, such as the evangelicals, baptists, assemblies, etc., were chosen for this project PRECISELY and INTENTIONALLY, because they were NAIVE, incredibly IGNORANT, and very EASILY and READILY MANIPULATED.
Money, capitalism, power, fascism, plutocracy, and oligarchy were and are the singular goals, the absolute objectives; though most of the deluded members of these cults are not aware of these things and would die defending this con.
These ultra right wing barrons knew it would take some time for this cold-blooded, purposeful contrivance to work its way to the forefront, but it started to bear fruit in the 50's, showed up in force in the Reagan 80's, the Gingrich Congress, Dubya's era, Delay's Congress, the Claremont Institute, the Heritage Foundation (and many others like it), Mercer, Cambridge Analytica, etc., and came to full, grim, nightmarish fruition with the REPUBLICANeviks, TRUMPeviks, MAGAviks, Q'ANONeviks, etc.; with the RIGHT WING, conservative, fascist MEDIA at their side AMPLIFYING the SOPHISTRY/MESSAGING 24/7. --- --- ---
Point: FOX media is NOT a NEWS outlet. It deals strictly in dissemination of ULTRA-RIGHT wing fascist, republicanevik, trumpevik, magavik, q'anonevik, fundamentalist, racist, etc., LIES and PROPAGANDA.
(Think Moscow's PRAVDA.)
FOX actively promoted
seditious lies regarding
the last american
presidential election,
was caught and sued,
settled out of court and
paid close to a billion
dollars in settlement
fees to Dominion.
Smartmatic is in
process of suing.
Little, if anything, has
changed.
(Although there is now
one very capable,
democracy and truth
supporting journalist
who, when she is on,
very intelligently
refutes all the lies.)
FOX wholeheartedly
(almost singlehandedly)
but alongside such media
as OANN, NEWSMAX,...
and all the ultra-right
political/religious RADIO PROGRAMMING,
[which by the way is
particularly brutal in
the vile, vicious lies it
spreads, being fiercely
anti-education,
anti-science, very pro
muscovite-russian state
fascism, pro-Orban,
pro-Putin, misogynistic,
racist, etc.],
CONTRIBUTED TO the incalculable degree of IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY WITHIN the american populace;
CONTRIBUTED TO the absolute harsh oligarchical plutocratic fascist CORPORATE CONTROL of the LIVES of american citizens for the absolute WORSE and spiraling downward;
CONTRIBUTED TO the horrendously NEGATIVE STATE of affairs regarding the condition of economic PROSPERITY,
WELLBEING, and physical/medical/mental HEALTH of american citizenry; and
CONTRIBUTED TO the DELIBERATE CRIMINAL FASCIST DISARRAY within the USA government.
This is NOT an exaggeration.
--- --- --- --- ---
It is, in fact, a STATISTIC
that if you watch FOX
(or watch and listen to other such right-wing outlets),
you are (kindly phrased) SIMPLE-MINDED.
And the more you watch/listen to/read the rightwing media, the more DENSE and BRAINLESS you become. --- --- ---
It would take hundreds of years of deprogramming - and that with limited success - to start to solve this problem, if at all possible, because it was done under the auspices of religion. The naive left fell prey to right wing pr and did absolutely nothing to counteract this nefarious scheme. It was dismissed as under the sponsorship and guidance
of 'religion.'
They were afraid to touch that system model.
Instead, they actually helped cater to it, particularly during the Reagan and Dubya era.
- - - - - - -
The so-called 'christian right' is NOT Christian.
They are old testament fundamentalist reconstructionists and dominionists. There are varieties within those; most of which are beyond hypocritical, predatory, fraudulent, grifting, larcenous, and CRIMINAL.
They do NOT follow the teachings of Christ as laid out in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the New Testament of the Bible.
The word 'christian' as applied to these people
is a
DELIBERATE MISNOMER.
-- -- -- -- -- --
Additionally, the Muscovite-Russian State has been plying its PROPAGANDA for hundreds of years.
But it came into full play in the USA with the Reagan years in all possible categories, such as:
economy, commerce, business, politics, finance, entertainment, sports, religion, education, etc.
Putin intensified the predatory ruthless scheme to a highly targeted level by not only using HUMAN ASSETS but ALL MEDIA RESOURCES available, particularly television and internet; concentrating on the venal, CORRUPT, uninformed, IGNORANT, and GULLIBLE political/religious right.
This Infiltration/Manipulation is CURRENT and ONGOING.
To wit: Tucker Carlson, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Comer, Tuberville, trumpeviks, magaviks, q'anoneviks, fundamentalists, right wing media,...
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Crudely but accurately stated, Trump and the religious/political right are Putin's 'butt boys' -
(though Trump is particularly 'special' in that regard).
That goes for the ENTIRE POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS RIGHT THROUGHOUT the PLANET.
Think Europe, India, Africa, etc. The MUSCOVITE BRAINWASHING has been PROFUSE.
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
The right planned hundreds of years into the future.
The left was lazy, and in many instances, arrogant and unsophisticated about reality.
The consequences and results of lack of counter-action are self-evident and on full display. -- The only long-term answer:
EDUCATION, education, education. With real SOLUTIONS and absolute, actual RESULTS.
Not following through would be terminal.
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Everything Trump does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC.
*** Trump IS a LIAR. So he has been his entire life.
It's both his NUMBER ONE PERSONAL IDENTIFIER and his PROFESSION. Ditto for his progeny.
Everything the Trump Organized Crime Family does is CALCULATED, MANIPULATIVE, DELIBERATE, MALEVOLENT, and SADISTIC. Always.
The Trump Organized Crime Family MODUS OPERANDI:
Delay, Delay, Delay.
Deny, Deny, Deny.
And above all:
LIE, LIE, LIE. -
In conjunction with:
Cheat, Blackmail, Coerce, Bribe, CORRUPT, Deceive, Defraud, Dupe, GRIFT, LAUNDER muscovite-russian state criminal assets/monies, Steal, DENY RESPONSIBILITY, REFUSE ACCOUNTABILITY, THREATEN, INCITE VIOLENCE, Assault, Attack, Hate, COMMIT TREASON,
COMMIT HIGH TREASON,
be utterly self-absorbed, self-adulating, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting braggarts, cretinous ignoramuses, arrogant entitled bigots and racists, narcissists, CRIMINAL THUGS, criminal TREASONOUS SOCIOPATHS, and criminal TREASONOUS PSYCHOPATHS. -
And that's just for starters.
--- --- --- ---
The Trump Organized Crime Family members have LEARNED NOTHING IN LIFE.
They are immeasurably, profoundly, unfathomably IGNORANT, flat-out stupid, MORALLY/ETHICALLY BANKRUPT,
and EVIL.
ALL IN Putin's POCKET, GOING ABOUT Putin's BUSINESS.
FOLLOW the MONEY.
- - - - - - - - - -
He had a big audience back then on KFI - the only radio station that made it through the concrete/metal buildings to reach the ears of workers who just wanted some background sound. I was asked to quit listening to the radio because apparently I was talking back to it and disturbing my colleagues. Now Im here in NC and trying to find talk shows on the radio and they are all Rush wannabes and I can’t listen to it. But plenty of people do.
Blame it on Greg and his annual brain washing session....
Never liked Rush Limbaugh and all his idiocracy theories.
So basically your friends chose God and chose to not follow the world or it's disgusting evil influences and you think they are wrong for that? Mabey your the one that made the wrong choice
Churches should not be tax exempt period
I thought they were supposed to lose tax exempt status if they get political. I haven't seen this happen.
This movement is growing and gaining strength here in Canada. My Provincial Premier welcomes this rhetoric. We are a very young country built on immigration. The backlash from Evangelicals is unprecedented. What happens in the States has a direct influence on Canada at every level of society.
I am praying that Harris/Walz win in November and that the entire Republican Party is walloped. That will send a strong message to Canadians and the world.
Do these white people think really they can make America all white? It's never going to happen. The majority of Americans are people of color. All the nationalities! White people is not the majority anymore. United State of America we are United. 🤔
I can so relate. I've watched the increasing Trumpization of Canada with horror -- especially since the pandemic.
@@alexconstable3155 troll
You must be from Alberta! Edmonton in particular. Vote blue! 💙💙💙
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca.
Wow. Great quote.
@@adriftinaboat3452 By the wise as false, 😂 I laughed out loud at that one.
@@adriftinaboat3452 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own cunning.” 20 And again: “Jehovah knows that the reasonings of the wise men are futile.”
@@adriftinaboat3452 😂 this iiihfnjxksbababahxjxbsbbzhxbdbshxhdc
@@Peter-yc2uh totally wrong but ok.
it's not about religion, it's about identity (dressed up as religion).
Yeah, it's just legitimization of whiteness. A cover story.
I can't stand the notion in American churches that Jesus is a republican as a devout Christian myself since they do everything for the rich
I can't believe they are so stupid as to think the gospel of prosperity is valid when it was invented by some crook in the 19th century. I am atheist but still if someone wants their religion to make some kind of sense, they should not invent stuff thousands of years after the 'real' story and pretend it's true while it completely contradicts the original message.
Camels and needles
And Democrats don't either?! They all chase the special interest & corporate money!
If Jesus was in America today they would persecute him for teaching love and forgiveness and for having bronze skin.
It's called blasphemy!
Religion is all about power. Not the power of a diety, but the power of men. Religion is about submission.
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Spot on....and you only got one reply! And 21 thumbsups, what does that say about Americans and world religion?
Do yourself a favour;
Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
you're so close.. so close. it's manmade. there. i solved it for ya.
It always was, that is why it´s origin was in an area where people were analphabets and heathens., without any real culture. At the same time as it began, there were countries which had developed and had functioning cultures.
In the middle ages the Christian explorers destroyed them. Incas, Aztecs,
Maya etc. They forced their beliefs onto others, those who would not comply
were tortured and killed.
The US has to clamp down on christian nationalists.
Religon started as reverence to God, mankind distorted it, true believers still revere God and follow Jesus teachings
Churches not getting their 5013c's pulled for being political has allowed a lot of growth of the movement.
"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool" - Mark Twain
Sounds like Scientology, not Christianity.
Religion is base on ignorance.
FACTS
You seem to believe that to believe in God is something that only fulls do ...
Gee...that's incredibly mean
@@TedMishler Was it him or Mark Twain?
Christofascists
Come with me into a world of pure imagination says willy wonka to the kiddies.
@@john-paulhunt-q6t Conservatives love that show.
Secular Globalist Fascists
Christianity is based
This is a good one I’m going to use it!
I was raised a catholic and I don't remember it ever being like some extreme evangelicals today. You sinned during the week, went to confession on Sunday, and things were fine. And you voted for whoever you wanted to vote for. Politics wasn't really discussed.
Catholics aren't as radical.
@@jonathanvasquez2162 bullsh*t. They are very much at the center of this today
That’s because it’s not true. Protestants hate Catholics its core to their faith. This guy just seems to be using the conspiracies of the catholic church from his days as an evangelical and attempting to use them for a secular audience. Anti catholic sentiment has been a consistent theme in the US, people used to think the Pope went after Lincoln.
@@jonathanvasquez2162pretty sure all those satanic scandals in Australia in the 70s-90s were catholic based. I mention this because it’s become a problem again with the elites in Hollywood today.
Edited for spelling.
This is the kind of Catholic my grandfather was. He was a sinner during the week but went to confession and church on Sundays. He was very smart and had political opinions, but as far as I was aware, his opinions were not extreme. I do not recall politics or religion being discussed in my family, except occasionally and on a very basic level. It seems like religion (or at least the religion my grandpa practiced) "stayed in its own lane" much more and did not try to control every person and every aspect of life.
I’m a Christian, but these are things developed out of fear. The last thing we need is a theocracy like Islam in Iran with morality police.
Well said!
American Taliban. I'd better lay in a supply of hijabs and burkas.😂😂
I’m a Southern California native and a Pittsburgh transplant having been here for 5 years and it’s crazy the stark contrast between the two places. Now that being said, even though the city itself is super diverse, drive 20/30 mins out of the city and the environment drastically changes into Christian Nationalist territory.
I love a country of diversity.
" I love a sunburnt country, A land of sweeping plains, Of lofty mountain ranges, and droughts and flooding rains ! "
D MacKeller
Moderate Christians give cover for nationalism without having to support it.
Without making overt shows of support. The ‘moderates’ are still very much in support of what their compatriots want.
Does your logic extend? “Moderate Muslims give cover for terrorism without having to support it”?
Not true. Christian here and I’m not a white Christian so do we count? No one interviews or cares what we think, despite being the ones the Christian nationalists oppose the most
they support it, they are just cowards about it
Not only that, but they support it and agree with it, because they aren’t all that different and probably see themselves as more similar to that than anything else.
I was raised catholic in Ireland and the church ruled everything, education politics, opinions and there was so much judgement based on what the priest would say. I pushed back, challenged the church and was perceived to be a nuisance and shock of shocks a "feminist". Then I left and I now live happily as an atheist in Canada. When your in it you don't notice how overwhelming and pervasive it is because you're either with them or against them. Ireland has changed a lot but catholics still rule.
My gf is Irish millennial and she talks about how much things have changed in her lifetime. She went to art school in an old repurposed laundry. She said they still had women there working laundry in the early 2000s. Those women had no where else to go and nothing else to do and so the government cut them a deal basically, and ended up working for the school. My gf said she took joy in the school hanging up subversive art (often with religious or counter religious themes) in the old halls of that place.
When I go back and dig into the still living history they is very recent for our times in how horrible the catholic-state regime was, it's shocking. Probably the worst I'd seen was about the mother and baby homes and the effectively orphaned kids being treated as pure byproducts of sin, fully neglected as little souls. Watched a man basically in tears describing how they would leave the kids diapers unchanged for days, and there was 5 times higher child mortality in those places because of the negligent neglect. How they are otherwise so good at covering up things and they cultivate the image of being for humanity and the humane. It's the opposite. And all these Americans that are skeptical of government, they aren't skeptical enough of their religions becoming part of the government, or in the case of Catholics, the religion itself effectively having a government. Always perplexed me they ever questioned things enough. And my dad gets giddy to this day talking about how bad the atheist communists for being militantly against religion, can't see these artifacts of even recent history with the Catholics, "well that was then, and people are sinners." And I'm like, that's exactly my point! Being devoted to the biggest wine tasting club doesn't make you a better person!
I live in BamaStan. I get it
Im sorry to hear of your oppression under the heavy Catholic influence. I’m a person of Irish ancestors, born in the U.S. who recently immigrated to Mexico. As a pagan, it’s been challenging to be here where it’s so religiously conservative. Sad how a Ireland and Mexico have lost so much of their indigenous spirituality, dominated by the Catholic Church. One day, we were invited to a family dinner of my husbands cousin, who is very devout. She has invited a visiting priest and I immediately pegged him as an arrogant, controlling narcissist. Seems like if they give almost unlimited power, that’s who they will attract..
@@down-to-earth-mystery-schoolMany now call themselves atheist but I often wonder if they knew the pagan or more indigenous spiritual nature of their ancestry, would they be atheist. I don't like the term atheist, to me it is someone who has lost all curiosity as they've rejected the status quo Christian government framework, which is in no way mystical, curious or spirited.
@@noglobowhat difference does it make? Honest question.
You’re idealizing pre-industrial, agrarian forms of religion. It’s all the same. The Incas and the Aztecs used religion for mayhem too.
Using religion as a weapon very dangerous!
The state shall not endorse or be bound to a government endorsed religion per the US CONSTITUTION
Get real.
Diversity IS NOT antiamerican. When people say "I love America" in the context of religion, they're making a racist remark. America does not belong to this or that group! It belongs to ALL that were born and live in it.
Being a true nationalist and patriot means RESPECTING ALL THE PEOPLE BORN IN A COUNTRY AND WHO LIVE IN SAID COUNTRY. You're not a TRUE nationalist or patriot if you hate people different than you just because they're different.
American nationalism is liberalism.
@@kennybachman35 Yeah, that's bullshit.
@kennybachman35 what exactly are you saying??
The Founding Fathers only wanted a white Nation funny enough
That's now how the Founding Fathers saw it lol.
I'm glad we are FINALLY talking about this.... I grew up in OC as well and was homeless in the 80s. I was constantly accosted by christians wanting to "save" me.
It’s interesting because people like Jimmy Carter say he grew up during a time when you were supposed to leave politics out of religion but I guess that is rare.
@@celestialtreetarot4260 It may have been less rare in certain areas. But I did not have any sense of this. I figured what I grew up around was the norm - and living on the streets I was not tuned into what was things were like elsewhere. It wasn't until much later that I realized how extremist it was. There was a lady involved with the juvenile justice system who was a major force behind the satan scare of the 80's - she is now very involved with the OC catholic diocese today. This woman (Darlynne Pettiniccio sp?) literally destroyed childrens lives. My brother was one of them - he died at an early age.
They're still trying that sh¡t. Why do you think most people without shelter don't want to stay there. Most cross promote ie "we feed both the body and the soul". Requiring mandatory church attendance, late afternoon curfews (regardless of the time people require for work), prayer group and more.
Last study I read said that 60% of homeless shelters/emergency beds were provided by faith based groups. Hindu, Wiccan, Jewish, Budist, Native American...tough f@#!$ng luck!
It's no wonder people unfamiliar with the plight of the homeless misconstrue why they refuse to go to these places!?? They, themselves, would refuse them as well, should they ever find themselves forced to pray and how to pray and wen to pray...just for a roof for a night.
F@#$ religious asshats like that...they blow!
Yeah most Christians don't know the meaning of minding their own business and not trying to control others.
@@yawnsoften yep, it's exploiting vulnerable people.
John Birch society was big in Orange County. I went to Chapman college there. My roommate was Black. The cops harassed him regularly.
I'm from Orange county California and lived there till age 17 , I know exactly what you are talking about .
P.s orange county also has a lot of neo Nazi skin heads and ,there are also unfortunately tons of extremely conservative Latinos( there are some even starting to embrace racist and white nationalist views ) and Asians ( some have similar views ) . lol I used to go to school at orange high school and walk past Chapman University all the time lol.
I live in Dallas ,Texas an even more conservative place and just like you and this guy in the video say , orange county and even other parts of southern California aren't as liberal as people here in the south think .Some have this very stereotypical image of California, that just isn't the reality .Btw there are thousands of transplants from orange county and LA in DFW area here in North Texas , ironically many are the conservatives from California that left .
@@gregDino32that’s a fact
@@gregDino32 most people leaving ca for texas are hispanics looking for a cheaper house.. its why houston and dallas are far more mexican now.
Very interesting: I grew up in Riverside, CA in the 60s and didn't even know I was Jewish until this decade. I was not raised with racism but I saw it, sometimes. My neighborhood had many different kinds of folk and we were all working class.
This explains and reveals a lot. Thank you. At age 6, I questioned my Catholic Catechism classes and at my Confirmation interview with my Pastor, my answers to his questions about what receiving the Holy Spirit meant to me made him cry inconsolably.
My step daughter attended a Catholic School in Majorca. I guess that was the only school in town. She got an F in Religion.
I'm a so CA native who graduated HS in 1979 and never considered this premise but in hind sight think it's an accurate chronological account of the white Christian nationalist movement. Fortunately I got kicked out of Catholic Sunday school when I was 9 yo for being disruptive after a nun who was teaching us Genesis lost it and tried to attack me because I kept asking her where dinosaurs came from. Fortunately I ducked her attack and never returned.
Every time I hear/read stories like this, I'm grateful to have grown up under my grandpa's minestry, where he wanted us to learn from other religions and cultures, and would perform magic tricks during his sermons 😂 I shit you not, he called them "illustrations," and it was his excuse to pull out his bag of tricks and keep people entertained during his service
@@munkeefinkelbeen5395 I grew up in a single parent household and my mother worked full time to support my older brother and I. Fortunately my mother taught us some important foundational values like a belief in the importance of education, most important egalitarianism which gave me the confidence to challenge people wielding authority to oppress others, self sufficiency and a work ethic. Back in the 1960's and 70's the salary and benefits of a single family bread winner included full heath insurance and a company pension and was sufficient to own a modest car home and a car. At 96 yo my mother still receives that pension each month.
All that changed in 1980 after Reagan and Republicans took over and began incrementally imposing a long term class warfare political and economic strategy to incrementally transfer the wealth of the middle class to the richest 5% by busting the labor unions, deregulating Wall St. ignoring Anti-Trust laws to consolidate American industry into cartels and monopolies that looted employee pension funds and outsourced millions of American jobs to third world sweat shops. Which created Americas Rust Belt on Reagans watch.
@@munkeefinkelbeen5395Just think if kids weren’t brainwashed from birth about religion-well they wouldn’t believe in fairy tales
@@adriftinaboat3452 why not allow kids to believe in fairy tales? It's an incredible exercise in imagination 😉
@@munkeefinkelbeen5395 Santa for instance?😊
Christian Nationalists are not based on the gospel of Christ which cherishes the spirit of kindness and love for all humanity.
Above all things, have intense love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins. 9 Be hospitable to one another without grumbling.
Not true. Jesus told his disciples not to preach or go into the lands of the gentiles to spread the word. He also told a women asking for healing that she was basically not worthy and he degraded her pretty bad.
@@BattleGroundEarthwhich book are you talking about?
@franciscouderq1100 The Bible. Google Jeuse not so nice verses and you can see for yourself.
@@BattleGroundEarth who is Jeuse?
Fourth generation OC native. The Jesus Revolution was written about my life. I mean, Chuck Smith's daughter was my kindergarten teacher. Despite all of this indoctrination, I am the first atheist Progressive in my family.
Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
I truly believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. When people like the CN's openly advocate against his teachings, while calling themselves "Christians" -- it's the worst thing a human could do.
I believe in a lot of them too, so does the legal profession and legislature of every civilised state and government !
Except maybe Russia under current admin !
Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”....Albert Einstein.
26:35 Almost everyone coming from a secluded American Christian Community who travel abroad for an extended period get an eye-opening experience affecting their World view. Unfortunately most of American culture is based on Confederate ideas and too many never evolve from it.
We have Irish catholic relatives in Anaheim, they loved Reagan and now, they love Trump, some of them are visiting us soon here in Australia and I will be avoiding them completely.
Reagan was used by the far right as is trump - it makes sense. I feel for you. Plan something very nice for yourself that unfortunately coincides with their arrival. Something like a non- refundable trip to somewhere they are not
@@catpaladin1 bingo!
feel bad for ya! Pls know that most of us irish americans are antitrumpers always have been, and many of us are liberals, such as myself, a middle aged man.
@@catpaladin1 Hate upon hate is no solution. Why not show them how to be tolerant?
There is no love like religious hate
Thanks!
Being french-canadian, learning catholics are behind a lot of this breaking down of the separation between church and politics is chilling and kind of illuminating.
Back in the early nineteenth century, the catholic church in Canada was a moribund leftover from the french ancien régime. But through an alliance with anglo-american capital during industrialization it revived and amassed immense power and influence as a public institution, which in exchange could use ideology and superstition to keep a mostly materially and educationally poor majority in check. This is why when the "quiet revolution" hit in the 60s, french canadians aspired not only to overthrow foreign dominance in the economy, for instance by nationalizing hydroelectricity, but at the very same time overthrew the power of the catholic church. Because of this, french canadian culture today is rabidly secularist and allergic to anything religious, especially women for obvious reasons.
So from here it's depressing seeing the US slowly going the opposite direction in the same time frame, but it's certainly not surprising this is happening through an alliance with capitalists who couldn't give two shits about religion but are adept at using it for political control, and christian nationalism in that sense is a perfect fit for american culture.
You nailed it. This insanity is all about Power (Avarice too) and assuring that Power by Controlling and Oppressing the masses. I agree with everything you warn about, except one thing: the US is now rapidly going in the opposite direction after slowly going there in the same time frame. Thank you, neighbor. Canadians must be awfully concerned, too. I am always grateful for the kindness and compassion of my Canadian friends. Following is just a simple outline of the bigger picture we're up against. Disheartening.
Now we have these demographic forces who collude or leverage them to promote and elect a Malignant Narcissistic Psychopath who curries their favor (at least until he has absolute power, in his mind, and as their useful idiot in some of their minds), to gain the highest position in the world, if only because of its wealth, military might, technical advances, and nuclear weapons:
1) the White (even if they disguise their profound racist bigotry for votes) Christian Nationalists
2) Oligarchs and their Corporations/Industries and their paid shills
3) Mainstream Media (MSM) swallowed up by Oligarchs who now own and control the propaganda output of the majority print, radio, television network and cable news
4) Political Party Elected Officials who are Maga and chameleon republicans
5) Enemy Foreign Country Leaders intent on our destruction
6) Foreign Country Leaders whose perks and bribes can influence (and have influenced) those in office for their benefit
7) all the brainwashed voters who are influenced by beliefs, actions, or the propaganda machine from the above, or the core cult of personality voters whose indoctrination was driven directly by the cult leader hating the same people they hate.
8) or the wealthier voters who elect those whose policies are more profitable to them regardless of ill effects on others.
9) The Supreme Corruption: The Corrupted Supreme Court as the ultimate authority and other consequential courts of authority who are facilitating the criminal actions of those who are tapped to usurp our freedoms and progress, as well as their own constitutional defying subversion of the same.
VOTE BLUE, VOTE DEMOCRAT/PROGRESSIVE DOWN BALLOT, AS IF YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF THOSE YOU LOVE DEPENDED ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES.
We are in for a bumpy ride for years to come. The United States of America is on the precipice of FACISM, right now, and the foundation of Fascism, already at work from within our power structures, already disrupting the checks and balances meant to safeguard against it, might be a force to reckon with for an unforeseeable future into the next century.
VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 2024
On peut chialer sur le catholicisme mais cela fait partie de notre culture en tant que Canadien français et c'est aussi la raison pourquoi nous n'avons pas été assimilé par l'empire britannique alors qu'il essayait de nous noyer à l'aide de l'immigration anglophone européenne.
What's a real american? Ohhh the native americans......the cree, seminole, Choctaw, Chickasaw, blackfeet, etc, etc!
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The Soulutreans were in America 17 thousand years ago.
Hulk Hogan, when I was a kid
@@swiger416 Not anymore.
True that but even for the most open minded "Americans" we'll always be seen as superstitious, backwards. What we "smoke" in spiritual ritual is a recreational past time for them. I guess we should be very grateful that they even reference us
The only true " native" humans are the ones living in the rift valley in Africa. That's the birthplace for humans. And like rats we have spread around the world 😊
His podcast is called "The Straight White American Jesus Podcast?" That's genius, trick the ones who need to hear it into listening. How many people get 5 minutes in and are like "What the hell man?!"
I truly hope his intro song is Bad Religion "American Jesus"
It's a fantastic podcast. His cohost also does a weekly series within SWAJ called "It's in the Code," that breaks down how common Chrisrian phrases are used within the Christian Right.
@@amielwayne ooh, thanks for the heads up!
Good interview very revealing. Be safe out there folks.
Christian nationalism is not a holy body. Jesus did not hurt anybody who didn't believe in him or messages. Actually he told his deciples to no be violent. Children nationalism is all about hate. Christ would not approve of them.
Great conversation! Thank you, once again, MR.
When did evangelicals and conservative Catholics unite? There is a lot of anti Catholic sentiment in the evangelical community
At the elite level, they absolutely have. Just look at the Supreme Court's makeup, for one
Power
Theyve been forced together by the overwhelming amount of degeneracy being pushed by gobernment and society in the west.
No time for infighting. The far left has pushed them together sort of like how they pushed China and Russia together.
Did you know that there are "advisory" businesses that unite these churches with fees and these businesses are currently listed as non-profit churches by the IRS? So basically remember - this is class warfare. Rich elites vs the rest of peasants. The middlemen peasants are just there for profit and power. The rest are sheep fighting for powers that go against the sheep's intererest interests.
bcuz antosocial folks have to support each other IF they are activist extremists who want to get stuff done!
13:45 As someone who grew up and was intentionally raised in that enviornment, what I saw was Preachers, sunday school teachers, and other church leaders would take events that were happening and apply a spiritual purpose or cause to it. I remember this most when the Columbine HS shooting happened. They claimed that god was punishing the godless liberals in Colorado for their sins and it was a warning to the rest of the christian community about what happens when you take god of schools (referencing the Engel v Vitale supreme court ruling). Same thing was done with Hurricane Katrina. So a narrative was developed from these events that we were being punished for our collective sin and if we didn't get involved in politics and steer the country back to the mythologised christian roots that the guest described, then we were going to become like the Roman Empire or Israel and Judea before, when they were conquered and overrun by other nations (often citing China, and then later "the muslim jihadists".
bingo! Repugnant stuff by pastors re gun violence. These pastors are personality-disordered narcissists as anyone with any brains is well aware of at this point in history. We must stand up to this and challenge it in every way possible: resist thru both words and thru social shunning at this point! Often the idea that we must engage them is wrong. When they are radicalized and show hatred, they need social ostracization. Dn't by their plumbing services, their products etc. I am vetting the ppl i buy such services from now!
It's deeply disappointing to see Brad Onishi, someone of Asian heritage and a person of color, perpetuating narratives that align with white Christian nationalism. Given his background, one would expect him to understand the damaging effects of racial stereotypes and the importance of challenging them. Instead, his stance appears to betray the very communities he is a part of, aligning with ideologies that historically have oppressed people of color.
Brad should recognize the responsibility he carries as a person of color to challenge and dismantle these harmful narratives, not reinforce them. His position is not only a disservice to the truth but also to the very communities that continue to suffer under the weight of these racist ideologies. It's a shame that he chooses to support a version of history and theology that contradicts the inclusive and diverse nature of the real message of Christianity.
Epoch Times is owned by a Chinese Christian billionaire l, they have RUclips channels, he was recently charged with some major crime - I think it was embezzlement
41:28 Ironic that Catholics were prohibited from holding government office or paid positions in the government, it makes more sense now than ever.
The Catholic Church says that says that abstinence is the best form of birth control.
…tell that to the Virgin Mary
I always wondered what the Native American Tribes think of these invaders and colonizers.
We think they should get right.
You could contact them and ask them?
I’m sure the native Americans saw the white invaders as the savages, and they were right.
Ours in TAS were wiped out. They are no more!
Thank you for bringing Brad on! This was so important to hear & discuss how do we decode this ideology & de-radicalize folks. Would love to hear more on this.
It use to seem as if Pat Robertson took over all the churches, now it seems as if Billy Branham or David Duke took over all the churches.
Branham is wild, that guy glowed.
@@SixOneNiner23 His followers are still trying to scrub the web of any reference to his connections with the klan or Jim Jones to this day, last I heard.
@@CriticalThoughtCritique a lot of stuff we don’t know, I’ve seen pictures of him with Bibi and Sadam, and the new Trump “prophets” claim to seek his mantle. 😫
Pat Robertson was also very racist.
David Duke?
Please show me the churches pushing racism
So they want to create something like a christian version of Iran. My opinion is that religion should remain a personal matter. Religion and politics mixed together is the perfect breeding ground for tyranny.
This is why people should worry about project 2025.
No they shouldn't because it has nothing to do with Trump or his agenda not that you NPCs are capable of learning anything.
Raised in southern baptist church. Id go visit catholic churches every once in a while. I have NEVER in my 20 something years of church going heard any of them align with ANY politician.
I don't go to church anymore, but I see tons of preachers/pastors mixing the "war against principalities" and siding with evangelicals and the right.
The white churches never had rhetoric in the areas i went to, but Im sure there were some. None of the black churches ever sided with political messages.
Father and I (North Carolina) went to two baptist churches last year. They both preached politics from the pulpit. We walked out partway through. Father went onto a Catholic Church that doesn’t preach politics. I just stay home.
Im glad that radical Catholics were brought up. There was a catholic extremist juvenile probation officer in Orange County who was a big influence behind the satan scare in the 80's. She also was an anti- punk rock and anti-heavey metal crusader. She founded the "Back in Control Training Center of Orange" where she gave seminars for parents on how to de-punk and de-metal your kids. It involved destroying all their music paraphernalia, barring them from associating with any of their friends and in some instance putting bars on the kid's bedroom windows. She destroyed families and children. I witnessed it
She actually testified in the trial against Judas Priest when the band was being sued for "causing two teens to commit suicide" (turned out it was probably their christian fundamentalist parents who were to blame).
Today she is has been involved with the catholic diocese of Orange County where she has been doing PR work for the diocese in the wake of some sexual abuse scandals.
I remember that.
I remember that too!
I’m from Orange County ca and am bi racial . I can definitely say that it was a very different place and the older I get the more I reflect and think about the things I went through and how deeply it affected my point of view . I was always matching descriptions according to police 👮♀️ which later me me a very angry / rebellious youth. The anxiety that my friends didn’t have to experience still affects me today, and it’s hard to explain how different it was for me than them . There are good people out there, but don’t be naive it can be hard if your different .
Mankind is a single Homogeneous "Race", there is no such thing as 'bi -racial", please read a book occasionally, you're definitely confused, by myths and lies!😊😅
I have no room in my life for hatred and bigotry. This had nothing to do with Christ …
Very parallel to the experience out here in Colorado Springs… huge defense industry coupled with mega-church exploitation = white Christian extremism.
My story is similar to yours, grew up in the 70’s and 80’s in Texas. It was my love for the natural world (creation) and then degrees in the sciences, and then 9/11 that revealed the incompatibility of Fundamentalist Evangelical belief system and my own. I was taught a 6000 yr old planet, that we are not related to animals. It isn’t possible to study biology, geology, and chemistry at a high level without conflict. It became impossible to check my brain at the door and be fed misinformation about Muslims, vaccines, DNA, stem cells, abortion, races, American history, the founding fathers etc etc. And then you add TV Evangelists, mega churches, toxic masculinity, and the business of selling Jesus.
Thank you for this discussion, my guess is there are many of us who have chosen to walk away and instead use our brain to critically think so our lives can be authentic in how we believe.
In the Quran - more than once - God says (paraphrased) that we are to use the brain given us. God also says that there are those who can not see and can not hear and that we are to leave those to God for it is he that has made them so.
Chris Hedges wrote this book 15 years ago...American Fascists
Heh... I just posted a quote from him in response to one of their comments. His book is "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America"
What a fantastic articulate guest! Will definitely check out his work. The Opus Dei connection totally makes sense. I'm in Australia and am a veteran of opposing Opus Dei on my university campus in Sydney. The university gave land and money on campus for them to build a college dorm and conduct their secret business. They have never been an active part of the wider university community and don't have very many public lecture programs or interface within the university or the wider community to speak of.
Fun fact, (sort of) Mel Gibson was influenced by Opus Dei and eventually he became even more extreme through the influence of his father. His parents are of Irish (Catholic) heritage, father American, mother Australian. Mel built a church in Malibu, The Church of the Holy Family/Church of Mel which does only Latin mass and is not only critical of the Vatican but has extreme anti abortion and anti contraception views, the same as Mel. There's anti semitism and racism also in the mix. It's always valuable to get the long view for a proper historical reference point on what we can see and understand in the present and this interview reaches back even to the Mayflower in some respects imo.
Insanity.
Orange County is the Florida of California. I’ve been saying this for years now.
Brad Onishi and I have a similar story, then. I was raised in this. At one point, from 2016 to 2020, I was completely devoted to Jesus. All I cared about was Jesus and people. But I looked around and found myself alone. Everyone at church was, at best, distracted by their lives and where we were going for Sunday lunch. At worst, they were mixing Americanism with Christianity and diluting the potent message of Christ. They didn't seem to really care about Jesus, and many didn't seem to care about people. So I left.
There was a time I also could've been a Christian nationalist because I was surrounded by the seeds of it in my earlier life (before 2016). It's ultimately ironic, then, that what saved me from that life was being devoted to Jesus' message.
You left out football...the Trinity here is Irish, Football, and snot.
@@DeannaClark-oo9ut Wota 'bout da hurling ?
Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
I was at two different weddings where the couples were brought up in this tradition.
At both weddings the fathers of the bride and groom gave ~20 minute speeches where (the fathers) were the center piece of the wedding. And of course God.
Absolutely bizarre because the day should have been about the bride and groom.
Amazing. I'm from OC. Thank you so much for this interview.
Religion is an addiction, pure and simple. Just the fact no Christian follows Jesus proves that.
The opium of the masses
I see what you did there ;)
@@PyrrhicPaxMaybe that's why Republicans try to make everyone's life worse. If people don't need opium, they won't need a savior.
@phyrricPax that quote doesn’t mean what you think it does, probably
My wife is Christian but she is a leftist and doesnt act like these right wing nazi whackjobs
Thank you. Grateful for this interview.
This is the first time I have heard anyone express the belief and understanding that Catholic ideology has crept into traditional Protestant beliefs. I, for one, totally agree. I also grew up in a traditional Protestant church and experienced the creep of Catholicism. I converted to being a “none” a long time ago and I am terrified of the “New America”.
Boycott X, the right wing comms channel.
Or post RUclips channel posts to correct for that
X? It's that the one that was formerly know as Twister? You know always twisting the truth!
@@samstewart9249 That’s the one
@@samstewart9249burka. No, it was Twitcher. Everything you read something it makes you twitch w ith anxiety.😂😂😂
disappointing that these types of hard conversations are often the least watched. thanks for this one - sobering... :: looks up local progressive groups to build community with again::
@kbakhurin I think it goes beyond the nature of the conversation. I think if it's a serious conversation exceeding 10 soundbites, it's "too heavy" (for many).
This is everyday on the majority report. They read lots of books and have the authors on.
@@jumboslice9414 Tks, I'm aware.
The interview ended hopeful. Remember how people tried to connect Brexit with the election win of Trump. As sort of a canary in the coal mine that we didn't see coming. If that holds any weight then we just saw Britain and France go left. People are tired of chaos and the only chip the Right has to bet is chaos.
Don't forget Iran just elected a less radical president too.
A very important discussion! Thank you for this! 💜
This guy story is so much like mine, that it's not funny.
Having that curiosity and an active mind is what broke me out of it.
@@juqual78 same here! Thank goodness that my extremist, theocratic religious upbringing failed to eliminate the logical, questioning mind that GOD gave me! It’s literally been my saving grace, lol!
Oh, you got accussed as thomas the daubter too? Or jezebel as a bonus on top?🤭
My teenage son saved me from christianity. He's a thinker and like you, curious.
@carisaunders2346 Very similar to the great George Carlin's story. He had brains, logic & thought critically at a young age. This didn't work with the catholic church.
I have all my family and neibors who have fell into this racist trying to start gog and magog in Ky.I am the only one who realized this was not in line with Christ.I feel so dissapointed.There are no racist intellectuals and i am heartbroken
That's because racism is built on a lie.
From and Australian perspective: another fantastic interview that helps me understand the terrible weirdness of Yankee politics! Thanks so much Sam and Emma!
I'd have liked to hear more of what the woman on the panel had to say. I get that Sam was excited, but presumably the woman was there because she had useful insights, and I'd like to have heard them.
Do you mean Emma?
@@dogeared100 yes. I went back and checked her name when Sam introduced her.
A must listen
Really enjoyed this conversation thanks
This was a really good and enlighting interview, especially for me from Europe where the American Evangelism and Megachurches is already hard to grasp.
Would very much like more of Brad Onishi and the topic in general to understand better what driver (religious) right wing politics as it is so very different then here.
Futurist dispensational doctrines were introduced by the CI Scofield Referance Bible published by Oxford Press in 1909 and freely distributed throughout the US. These doctrines and practices form the foundation of Evangelical Christianity. Americans also believe we won WWII n saved the world, by the grace of God, so all our wars are just. Combine the two... global evangelical backed US hegemony. I am Christian BTW.
God is not color blind! There is no such thing as a white person. We all came from different backgrounds. God made all of us. You are no better than anyone else. 😌 Real Christians do not use any type of violence. Love thy neighbor!
Jesus wasn't a white person: He was a brown-skinned, Middle Eastern Jew. Jesus wasn't a Christian; he was a Jew. Jesus was a rebel. If Jesus was here today, he would be hanging out with the homeless, the drug addicts, the poor, the persecuted, the hungry, and the lost. He would gather crowds and followers without trying and the powers to be would see him as a threat and probably lock him up for gathering in numbers without a permit.
I hope your lofty inclusiveness also includes God's other children, LGBTQI people.
Christianity is interpreted as non-violent in the turning of the other cheek. But the story is really about daring the other to increase the legal jeopardy of the assailant.
@@jumboslice9414 Ha !
Try reading 'The God Delusian' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is Not Great' by the late Chris Hitchens for some reality!
Well done interview
I was Baptised with my Brothers and Sisters, at the Church of Christ. Located in Raleigh, North Carolina on the westside of the city. Our Beautiful Church was modest,though we had it going on! Gospel Choir which i was invited to join . After Church Services, we Sisters would visit our Church Members in hospice and hospitals, we would sing their favorite Gospel Hymns ❤️! We took care of our Community with Love and Sharing all we had with one another ❤️
Bible Study before the Pastor's Sermon!
We were Family❤
This was TRUE RELIGION ❤
That is what Jesus said. Give to the poor, visit the prisoners in jail, give a drink of water, visit the sick. Yes.
@@yfa6244
Did all of that. Thank you. Have a good day.
@@yfa6244 Generally, good Humanism !
...except Humanists don't have institutions and structures where they can build and live in communities like she described.
@davidjohnzenocollins
I beg to pardon. We lived all over Raleigh and Garner North Carolina. Our Community was Our Church.
So Yes I beg to differ from what you have stated!
Have a Blessed Day.
"She dumped me but Jesus didn't."
"She left me for Jesus and that just ain't fair." Hayes Carll from the album Trouble in Mind
Thank you for talking about this
Orange County where if you help an old blind lady across the road you are accused of being a Communist.
I believe that.
Love that little old lady from Pasadena!
They forget that Democrats own guns too, that the military exists, that drones exist, and that their version of Jesus doesn't.
Hit them w this fact: none of the gun bans ever sought to make illegal the hundreds of handguns and hunting rifles. The only bans were on military style ones were you can spray hundreds of rounds in seconds. Glocks and all other guns were never on the ban list!!
@@Tad-For-Global-Peace I actually have no issue with people owning weapons like that. My issue is with the regulations required to get them.
They argue that their 2nd amendment right will not be infringed upon, yet they're fine with trump changing the constitution.
I'm fine with mental health checks and private sales requiring registration, which they are opposed to.
@@Tad-For-Global-Peace And Glocks can have big magazines! How much fire power you need?
For 'Home Defence' LOL ? Not in AUS/NZ .
Very informative discussion.
I left the church mentally at 8. I had to keep going of course till I left the house at 18, but I was an advanced reader, curious about what the hell my pastor was blathering about every Sunday. So I read the bible, cover to cover. That was enough for me to call bullshit lol. (I also blame the mid century sci fi authors I was consuming like pizza at that time). My brother is in the "quiver full" movement and is an active fash ist, isolating and indoctrinating his kids or "little Christian soldiers" as he said before I went no contact. How different young minds react to the brainwashing. EDIT to say: it was Methodist though, and we were hated by the Baptists as being not "real Christians" even back then, because we were honestly just more liberal than they were. So I'm also lucky in that I was more easily able to escape. My Grandma was very progressive and we had hundreds of books, plus she took us to the library all summer, every two weeks, 7 books at a time checkout :).
My mother dragged us to church too. I could never make heads or tails of anything that was going on there. Everything the minister said went in one ear and out the other. I couldn’t understand why my Sunday school teachers were pretending to believe obvious fairy tales about arcs and loaves of bread. She gave up on taking us when I was about 15-16. Then, one evening I bumped into a friend who had become a “Jesus Freak”. His group managed to brainwash me into getting saved, and joining them. That lasted less than 24 hours. After that, I read a couple of books on cults. To this day (I’m 62), I still feel a bit brain damaged from all this religious propaganda.
Sounds like you have/had a very loving, intelligent grandmother.
@@paulpfeifer2612 I did in some ways, although I did challenge her, but I always wonder how ALL her kids and grandkids ended up being racist isolated weirdos except for me.
The Catholic Church removed and moved all its gold in storage from the USA a few years ago. I think that says it all as to what they are expecting to happen here.
Really?
@@Benjaminsmallwood Yeah. Who would really know?