I second what Gareth Gore says. I’m a Spaniard that was in close contact with Opus Dei members through my private school education during the 60s and 70s. My father had been targeted for membership (they failed) in his younger years and my OP classmates also tried to recruit me on three different occasions (failing as well). I have been inside OD residences in my hometown (Seville) and saw those maid members (celibate numeraries). I also met several ‘supernumerary’ families whose job was to birth members for OD while also having to pay a tithe. Those parents could not afford to clothe and feed 8, 10, 12 children and had to make decisions such as reserving fruits only for the younger ones. Opus Dei is a malignant organization, make no mistake.
As a Spaniard, you do not want them anywhere near power. They had quite a lot of influence on the former fascist regime and even today a fair number of high ranking judges are known to be from Opus. I know someone from the organization who is of the less radicals, but even that is still basically being a priest. If they get power they will try to impose that lifestyle on everyone.
That's very worrying (even if I'm not from the US, I'm from Scotland). I've said it before on this channel-it never ceases to amaze me that Scotland and England have actual State churches, I can't remember about Wales and N.Ireland doesn't (Church of Scotland and the Church of England which both have pretty different forms, one glaring difference is the Monarch isn't head of the church in Scotland and just an ordinary parishioner while the Monarch is head of the Church of England), yet they both have very little to no political sway yet religion in the US-despite explicitly saying Church and State don't mix in the constitution has a FAR more politicised relationship with religion. I read not long ago that most people who go to church now go to the church which aligns more with their political views and that naturally causes the church leaders to become more involved in politics. I find it very weird and also worrying
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 the UK also had a relationship with Franco as well, I think it was more a "behind the scenes" relationship mostly and a non-interventionist attitude publicly (I'd have to check though as I've forgotten but I'm pretty sure) but at the same time a few thousand civilians fought against him-famously George Orwell among them of course
Australian here - OD has come under some scrutiny because of a couple of scandals at high schools they run here in Australia. What's gone on in those schools is a bit more than just creepy. Someone else commented "Handmaid's Tale and Da Vinci Code. What a terrifying combo." and that sums up what's been going on in these schools quite well.
Australian here - OD has come under some scrutiny because of a couple of scandals at high schools they run here in Australia. What's gone on in those schools is a bit more than just creepy. Someone else commented "Handmaid's Tale and Da Vinci Code. What a terrifying combo." and that sums up what's been going on in these schools quite well.
Reminds me of Jeff Sharlet’s excellent writing on The Family, which landed well, everyone was appropriately shocked, and gently faded under the weight of the obfuscation by the related organizations. Great interview.
I actually think that Opus Dei started all these Christian Nationalist churches. Like The Family (also called The Syndicate= the same name Opus Dei used in Spain) and now The Gathering.... the group that started the National Prayer Breakfast. They all go back to Opus Dei.
Australian here - OD have come under some scrutiny here from things going on in high schools they run here. Your comment is the perfect description of those schools.
HOLY CRAP! I was doing daily Project 2025 posting for family so they would see how bad a 2nd Trump term would be (this was months ago), until I started stumbling across Opus Dei and their influence in the Heritage Foundation and then the ties with Leonard Leo, SCOTUS judges and the Federalist Society, so I stopped posting because I felt like I was getting too conspiratorial. This makes me feel justified, and incredibly freaked out. We absolutely cannot let Republicans win anything this election cycle
@@sunnymckaig3193 I don't think that's true. I grew up Catholic and live in St Louis city where it is overwhelmingly Catholic but it is 20/1 Harris to Biden signs everywhere, most Catholics I know are Democrats, tons of them voting yes on Amendment 3(right for women in Missouri to get an abortion). I'm not a fan of the powers that be in the church but most Catholic folks I know are pretty normal, decent people.
it IS a conspiracy. And it has been going on a hell of a long time. I am pretty sure it goes back to a group around the time the Powell Memo was starting to get traction.
As Christopher Hitchens used to say "For the whole of the 20th Century, you can replace the word 'Fascism' with the words 'Catholic Right Wing' and you don't have to change a thing."
A guy called Tony Abbott from England ,from a good middle class family and immigrated to Australia with his family as a young teenager and went on to become a Liberal (conservative) prime minister of Australia. Went to a catholic school ,trained as a Jesuit and Monk ,before entering politics ,must have had ties with these guys, very conservative economically, pro big business also quite socially conservative ,seems like he sang from exactly the same song sheet and luckily only lasted 1/2 a term, got kicked out early from unpopularity luckily from his austerity measures, lies and recommendations for Prince Charles to be Australian of the year🤔luckily Australia dodged a bullet, hopefully America does to with Elon musk trying run the budget in exactly the way they all do with a far right, fascist/quasi Catholic,Christian background austerity and pro big business, which can be far more destructive than there social policy's
As a person that was born in Spain I can tell you Opus dei feels like a secret organization nobody talks about it, one of the worst things that they did that I can remember was to a little girl with cancer that they refused to treat because they believe everything is a God plan also pain and illness and the pain she was enduring was to make her a marthyr... Also the people that live under the Opus dei work for them free and have to give them 90 percent of their earnings
@@alf23wlf According to the O.D., the maids (‘celibate numerary assistants’) are paid by bank transfer, but must pay back for living at the O.D. house where they work and contribute to the maintenance. That’s where all their salary goes. The numeraries are brainwashed, literally, and very few manage to escape. I saw and spoke to a couple of those maid members while visiting a house and they acted very submissive.
Frank Schaeffer has had videos, books and articles for years about himself and his father, a big preacher in the 60s and later, and what became The Moral Majority and others being led by and influenced by Opus Dei's agenda. He has a youtube channel.
FOR ANYONE wanting to see an amazing comment on the subject of Catholics influence in SCOTUS there's a lecture by a Notre Dame political science professor Patrick Deneen at The Tocqueville Center April 2024. Its titled "April 16, 2024: Part 1 - Catholic Political Thought in America" The actual comment is NOT by Patrick Deneen but by the person introducing the lecture. About 2 minutes into the video he points out that 6 or 7 of the current 9 SCOTUS judges are Catholic or culturally Catholic and then someone in the audience points out that he'd forgotten another of the 9. The lecture itself was about the different groups within American Catholicism, which was mildly interesting because I sort of wondered how many actual Catholics are aware of the influence being peddled by Leonard Leo who's Opus Dei and who's got the $1.6 Billion from Barre Seid to push people onto SCOTUS. The answer is most Catholics have no idea that a branch of Catholicism has this incredible power. Following that lecture there was this panel discussion and it got weird and quickly.
Frank Schaeffer whose father was up very high in the organization (his dad created the modern evangelical church) says that their plan is to literally Execute all gay people in the U.S. and the world. He has a YT channel, and I recommend it, he has actual experience with these people.
This is what makes it so baffling that Peter Thiel keeps supporting these people. If they were in charge they would have him and all like him thrown from rooftops like in Chechnya. Makes me think he is secretly an idiot.
Clarence Thomas openly declared after over turning Roe v Wade the next plan was reverse gay marriage and control contraception. Yeah, they're controlling him.
@@antdah He thinks his wealth and connections would protect him. Ernst Röhm, I'm sure he thought that his riches and access to power protected him, too---he found out otherwise in the Night of the Long Knives.
That's because he grew up in that stuff and assuredly only converted to the RC church for the connections as lain out in this video. I'm sure he sees Catholicism as a more prestigious and "normal" form of Christianity, despite all those crazy beliefs, and saw it as just another stepping stone in his quest to shed his redneck background and attain his form of the ridiculous American Dream. He's basically just donning a pearl necklace fit for swine.
It sounds like these Opus Dei types are just like evangelicals. I grew up Catholic and no one I knew was one of them. Maybe you have to be rich or something.
Purely for transactional reasons I’d imagine since Theil to get Opus on board with Christians. Diverges from the church…Catholic element is a front indeed. The Mercers know…
Leo wants to get his late daughter sainted. He's a maniac. Hospitality, teenage girls, servitude. Handmaids? Has Trump/Epstein vibes in its creepy implications.
The penny randomly dropped for me a few months ago when I was looking into Pope Franis after his latest slip up slur re LGBTQ people. I realised he's basically like the progressive liberal Obama of the vatican...they've literally got they're own American Trump/Senior Cardinal on the sidelines who hangs around with likes of Steve Bannon & co. It's terrifying, Vatican is basically hanging onto power & tryna to keep these lunatics out. Hence why the far right hates the current Pope. If they have their 2016 moment...it's over.
Opus Dei is designed to force religious concepts and precepts onto those who have no need, no want, and indeed a mandate to keep these ideas out of their professional lives. Such as government workers, law professionals and other secular and public services.
I read the book long ago, and I was thinking for a long time of watching the show, but I decided not to because reality is scary enough I don't need to watch it.
'Projection is a defense mechanism' is what springs to mind. The same conspiracy's they spread across the far-right online...are the same things they get up to. Hence why they're so detailed imo.
Christianity was designed as a military psychological operation and it has been highly successful. Even Ginsberg cited a papal bull from the 1500's in her authored decision on Sherrill vs Oneida.
Spaniard that studied at opus deis uni. Very good education. Whole heartedly disagree with their political views. Very simple, They just want to be close to power and push their agenda the same way they did during Franco.
@@valeriewedel2775An older Spaniard here. Spain went through several years of a difficult (and at times violent) transition towards Democracy with a lot of struggle, there was much uncertainty about how it would turn out. Franco had groomed Prince Juan Carlos since chilhood to continue his policies, but it failed as the King preferred to be part of a parliamentary monarchy. Likewise, former figures of the Movimiento Nacional (Franco’s political faction and only party allowed) had a very important role in bringing Democracy to Spain, solidifying and participating in it for the first decades.
But this Opus Dei thing is not regular Catholic at all. Most Catholics know nothing about these Opus Dei people. They seem like a sect within the religion.
Maybe all of the smaller media companies should start and pay into a legal fund/prepaid insurance type fund so that when they get sued everyone works together instead of individually.
It's a real shame these interviews generally don't seem to get as many views as clips like those pertaining to Tim Pool, Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro etc... I hope many more listen to them on the podcasts or something and that more people so listen to the interviews than I realised
i lived at an Opus Dei residence in near the University of Toronto about twenty years ago. They were devout Catholics who lived together to practice their faith. I am not Catholic but was accepted as business school student who paid $800 Cdn a month for room and board (actually I didn't even know what Opus Dei was when I applied). A number of priests lived with us and we shared our meals together after saying grace, played sports and talked at length. Only men were allowed in the residence because it was a men's residence. Nothing unusual ever happened there except an early curfew and occasional late night prayer for those who chose it. I enjoyed my time with a group of sincere and thoughtful men.
My friend was abused in Opus Dei. Self flagellation was one of the things she was brainwashed into. She had counselling by a Fransciscan psychologist priest for yrs after. It has a dark inner circle.
Can you imagine how those same people would react if this was a Muslim equivalent attempting to do the same thing? We already know how they often act against Islam but this would be blasted all across the media. In the end Religion just shouldn't dictate what happens in politics and should be a private affair for people (provided it's lawful obviously)
@@teethgrinder83 Abolitionist movements were absolutely driven by religion. Even the civil rights movement with pastors like MLK. You might find the polar opposite of Opus Dei pushing liberation theology somewhere in Latin America. The issue is what they chose to push.
@@richardarriaga6271 mate you're twisting what I said or at the least misinterpreted it. My point was religion shouldn't DICTATE what happens in politics, I didn't claim religion hasn't helped change course before. Anyway if you want to play the game of how religion has helped achieve goals I could point to just as many if not more goals it's hindered-this is why I say it should be a PERSONAL thing. I'm fully aware of how different dominations etc...may push different ideas, my mum is Church of Scotland, dad Atheist, partner Catholic and I'm generally open but skeptical. For me (unless I have some awakening) religion is just interesting due to its long historical and social significance and I generally find it interesting but I don't think it's necessary to be "good", most people are inherently good I think, that goodness just needs to be nurtured and grown. But that's only what I think and again it's why I think religion shouldn't be mixed with politics in an overt way. Maybe I could have worded what I said better, I don't know, but you certainly misinterpreted what I was saying
As a constant student of history, this all seems so medieval. Yet here we are. With millions of people leaving religion behind how does this all pan out?
In Uruguay one of our former presedint was a OPUS DAI member and he did really good thing for the country, like he won a trial against Phillip Morris putting Uruguay as one of the only country of won a trial again a multinational company
Hagar House wausau wi. Horrid place.. just disgusting how the city I live in is proceeding with zero accountability. Its gross, i wish i could move out of here. I was raised a UU but boy is it scary how I very well could have been raised something like this in this area.
There's always some weird overlap with the hardcore zionists, many of whom couldn't care less for religion. Often race/genetics or whatever weird bs they're into trumps religion. They're smart enough to not get high on their own supply...that's for the masses.
I would like to know how all this intersects with the Evangelicals and The Family. I have spent some time on this subject knowing this is not the first time figureheads have attempted to interject religion into politics however these people like, Leonard Leo now have unbelievable amounts of money to spread the propaganda of Opus Dei and other religious ideologies.
I really hate when religion gets mixed with politics. It is very concerning what could happen in the United States. Other religions, non Christians, atheists and agnostics could be targets for prosecution if these extremists get their way. I could never imagine that the United States could possibly go this low.
Rumsfeld helped Opus Dei gain political power in D.C. while they helped him become THE trafficker to The Vatican and their cronies through Lolita Express. I was there. Enhance the box.
They are happy about what is happening in Gaza, it's all about being the biggest religion in this world, the more worshippers the better according to their beliefs. So getting rid of other religions is a big part of that. They got a hold on the white nationalists and want a holy war.
Hmm a sect can only be fundamentalists if we use the original Greek definition of a sect. Fundamentalism means you return to the core teachings of a philosophy. Opus Dei are not fundamentalists. They have many things that add on or subtract from the New Testament. Fundamentalist Christians only acknowledge the New Testament and no other newer ideas like Saints. Protestant Christians are more fundamentalists than any Catholic.
A way to identify an opus dei member or close to the sect is how many times attends mass, a member have to attends daily, in the morning preferly, also a deep belief in racism, a "documented" racism
I know that radical evangelicals and catholics have made some pact in the 1990's. Do you know if it's the NAR and Opus Dei? Why is there so little information about this? Please make a list of the people who are Opus Dei
The weird thing is everything you guys talked about here: very small group that is very influential in US govt and can't be criticized due to religion can also be said of J**is ppl but we're not allowed to talk about it as openly as you discuss these Catholic ppl.
I really don't know what it means to say OD is "more political than religious". Isn't all religion largely about morality, and thus political? Maybe some religions say they don't "get involved with politics", but that only means they don't get involved in electoral politics, or that they don't tell others how they should behave. But they all hold beliefs which clearly prescribe and proscribe flr us certain behaviors, policies and candidates.
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n The Davinci Code was a rip off of another book. It even went to court. And I knew about the book before Dan Brown's and though the plaintiff lost it was definitely a rip off. It's called 'The Blood, the Grail...." or something like that.
This seems overblown. My 2nd grade teacher was Opus Dei, she taught and did work for the poor and Hispanics like her. She lived it out as a way of being deeply compassionate and faithful, both and.
Guess your second grade teacher failed the order by not being able to seize any power for them. Then again. . . she did turn you into a propagandist for their wholesomeness.
@@emilymatienzo5922 Looking at your comment history, it's plain to see why you think what I said was "abusive." Bet you can't actually justify it though.
Kansas here! It's really hard to compete with Citizens United and fb Jesus 😢 Our female, Democrat Governor has cleaned up quite a bit of Sam Doucheback's mess.
I second what Gareth Gore says. I’m a Spaniard that was in close contact with Opus Dei members through my private school education during the 60s and 70s. My father had been targeted for membership (they failed) in his younger years and my OP classmates also tried to recruit me on three different occasions (failing as well). I have been inside OD residences in my hometown (Seville) and saw those maid members (celibate numeraries). I also met several ‘supernumerary’ families whose job was to birth members for OD while also having to pay a tithe. Those parents could not afford to clothe and feed 8, 10, 12 children and had to make decisions such as reserving fruits only for the younger ones. Opus Dei is a malignant organization, make no mistake.
Reincarnation of the Inquisition?
JEEZUZ KEYRIST!
Vance won't admit he's a member of Opus Dei because it has DEI in the title.
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Quality joke, right there.
Well done sir, that was fantastic.
😂😂😂
Lol
As a Spaniard, you do not want them anywhere near power. They had quite a lot of influence on the former fascist regime and even today a fair number of high ranking judges are known to be from Opus. I know someone from the organization who is of the less radicals, but even that is still basically being a priest. If they get power they will try to impose that lifestyle on everyone.
That's very worrying (even if I'm not from the US, I'm from Scotland). I've said it before on this channel-it never ceases to amaze me that Scotland and England have actual State churches, I can't remember about Wales and N.Ireland doesn't (Church of Scotland and the Church of England which both have pretty different forms, one glaring difference is the Monarch isn't head of the church in Scotland and just an ordinary parishioner while the Monarch is head of the Church of England), yet they both have very little to no political sway yet religion in the US-despite explicitly saying Church and State don't mix in the constitution has a FAR more politicised relationship with religion. I read not long ago that most people who go to church now go to the church which aligns more with their political views and that naturally causes the church leaders to become more involved in politics. I find it very weird and also worrying
I lived in Spain a few years, beautiful country!
Another interesting point is the Franco regime's close relationship with the American Right! Seems it's never gone away.
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 the UK also had a relationship with Franco as well, I think it was more a "behind the scenes" relationship mostly and a non-interventionist attitude publicly (I'd have to check though as I've forgotten but I'm pretty sure) but at the same time a few thousand civilians fought against him-famously George Orwell among them of course
They were behind every right-wing dictatorship in Latin America, all of them notorious for mass murder and torture.
Opus Dei members were charged with slavery in France in 2011.
Well it’s similar to what the democrats are doing to black people in the US.
Australian here - OD has come under some scrutiny because of a couple of scandals at high schools they run here in Australia. What's gone on in those schools is a bit more than just creepy.
Someone else commented "Handmaid's Tale and Da Vinci Code. What a terrifying combo." and that sums up what's been going on in these schools quite well.
and are now being charged in Argentina with Human Trafficking (so many young girls over the years)
@@letsRegulateSociopathsEVEN XAVIER DOES NOT WANT THEM???
@@tonywilson4713 is there any relation to 'The Exclusive Bretheren?' (I think that's what they are called)
So I'm living in a Dan Brown novel. Lovely.
I was thinking the same thing. Lol
Please enlighten my reading list . What book do you recommend?
@@mansanayanaranjado Obviously The Davinci Code if you haven't read it already. Absolutely spectacular book.
And Brown isn't even a good writer.
Australian here - OD has come under some scrutiny because of a couple of scandals at high schools they run here in Australia. What's gone on in those schools is a bit more than just creepy.
Someone else commented "Handmaid's Tale and Da Vinci Code. What a terrifying combo." and that sums up what's been going on in these schools quite well.
Reminds me of Jeff Sharlet’s excellent writing on The Family, which landed well, everyone was appropriately shocked, and gently faded under the weight of the obfuscation by the related organizations.
Great interview.
I actually think that Opus Dei started all these Christian Nationalist churches. Like The Family (also called The Syndicate= the same name Opus Dei used in Spain) and now The Gathering.... the group that started the National Prayer Breakfast. They all go back to Opus Dei.
In Spain the Opus Dei is called ‘la Obra’.
Handmaid's Tale and Da Vinci Code. What a terrifying combo.
Australian here - OD have come under some scrutiny here from things going on in high schools they run here.
Your comment is the perfect description of those schools.
*shudder*
Gilead and the Hunger Games too. 😅
HOLY CRAP! I was doing daily Project 2025 posting for family so they would see how bad a 2nd Trump term would be (this was months ago), until I started stumbling across Opus Dei and their influence in the Heritage Foundation and then the ties with Leonard Leo, SCOTUS judges and the Federalist Society, so I stopped posting because I felt like I was getting too conspiratorial. This makes me feel justified, and incredibly freaked out. We absolutely cannot let Republicans win anything this election cycle
The entire church is becoming radicalized
@@sunnymckaig3193 I don't think that's true. I grew up Catholic and live in St Louis city where it is overwhelmingly Catholic but it is 20/1 Harris to Biden signs everywhere, most Catholics I know are Democrats, tons of them voting yes on Amendment 3(right for women in Missouri to get an abortion). I'm not a fan of the powers that be in the church but most Catholic folks I know are pretty normal, decent people.
it IS a conspiracy. And it has been going on a hell of a long time. I am pretty sure it goes back to a group around the time the Powell Memo was starting to get traction.
@@sunnymckaig3193re-radicalized …
I dislike conspiracy theories, but sometimes conspiracies are real….. ?!
Thanks for bringing this dangerous theocratic fascist Catholic cult to our attention. You need to dig deeper.
As Christopher Hitchens used to say
"For the whole of the 20th Century, you can replace the word 'Fascism' with the words 'Catholic Right Wing' and you don't have to change a thing."
I miss him, especially now.
A guy called Tony Abbott from England ,from a good middle class family and immigrated to Australia with his family as a young teenager and went on to become a Liberal (conservative) prime minister of Australia. Went to a catholic school ,trained as a Jesuit and Monk ,before entering politics ,must have had ties with these guys, very conservative economically, pro big business also quite socially conservative ,seems like he sang from exactly the same song sheet and luckily only lasted 1/2 a term, got kicked out early from unpopularity luckily from his austerity measures, lies and recommendations for Prince Charles to be Australian of the year🤔luckily Australia dodged a bullet, hopefully America does to with Elon musk trying run the budget in exactly the way they all do with a far right, fascist/quasi Catholic,Christian background austerity and pro big business, which can be far more destructive than there social policy's
As a person that was born in Spain I can tell you Opus dei feels like a secret organization nobody talks about it, one of the worst things that they did that I can remember was to a little girl with cancer that they refused to treat because they believe everything is a God plan also pain and illness and the pain she was enduring was to make her a marthyr... Also the people that live under the Opus dei work for them free and have to give them 90 percent of their earnings
Sounds like Scientology
Slavery!
How does that work?; they work for free, but give 90% of their earnings.
From another Spaniard, I concur.
@@alf23wlf According to the O.D., the maids (‘celibate numerary assistants’) are paid by bank transfer, but must pay back for living at the O.D. house where they work and contribute to the maintenance. That’s where all their salary goes. The numeraries are brainwashed, literally, and very few manage to escape. I saw and spoke to a couple of those maid members while visiting a house and they acted very submissive.
Frank Schaeffer has had videos, books and articles for years about himself and his father, a big preacher in the 60s and later, and what became The Moral Majority and others being led by and influenced by Opus Dei's agenda. He has a youtube channel.
I started watching him recently, very enlightening hearing it from someone from the inner circle. Good recommendation on your part.
Read his books and several of his father's books. Interesting story and hugely influential in today's evangelical position on abortion.
FOR ANYONE wanting to see an amazing comment on the subject of Catholics influence in SCOTUS there's a lecture by a Notre Dame political science professor Patrick Deneen at The Tocqueville Center April 2024.
Its titled "April 16, 2024: Part 1 - Catholic Political Thought in America"
The actual comment is NOT by Patrick Deneen but by the person introducing the lecture. About 2 minutes into the video he points out that 6 or 7 of the current 9 SCOTUS judges are Catholic or culturally Catholic and then someone in the audience points out that he'd forgotten another of the 9.
The lecture itself was about the different groups within American Catholicism, which was mildly interesting because I sort of wondered how many actual Catholics are aware of the influence being peddled by Leonard Leo who's Opus Dei and who's got the $1.6 Billion from Barre Seid to push people onto SCOTUS. The answer is most Catholics have no idea that a branch of Catholicism has this incredible power.
Following that lecture there was this panel discussion and it got weird and quickly.
he tells a lot, his dad was the guy that started the evangelical movement. He was there and knows a lot of what happened and the Truth about it all...
Thanks for mentioning this, i knew of his father's story, but had no idea he had his own channel!
Frank Schaeffer whose father was up very high in the organization (his dad created the modern evangelical church) says that their plan is to literally Execute all gay people in the U.S. and the world. He has a YT channel, and I recommend it, he has actual experience with these people.
Please drop us a link.
This is what makes it so baffling that Peter Thiel keeps supporting these people. If they were in charge they would have him and all like him thrown from rooftops like in Chechnya. Makes me think he is secretly an idiot.
Clarence Thomas openly declared after over turning Roe v Wade the next plan was reverse gay marriage and control contraception. Yeah, they're controlling him.
@@antdah He thinks his wealth and connections would protect him. Ernst Röhm, I'm sure he thought that his riches and access to power protected him, too---he found out otherwise in the Night of the Long Knives.
A lot of well-meaning people are fighting for democracy when the ultimate battle is fighting for secularism.
I keep forgetting that Vance converted to Catholicism. He gives me serious evangelical megachurch pastor vibes.
That's because he grew up in that stuff and assuredly only converted to the RC church for the connections as lain out in this video. I'm sure he sees Catholicism as a more prestigious and "normal" form of Christianity, despite all those crazy beliefs, and saw it as just another stepping stone in his quest to shed his redneck background and attain his form of the ridiculous American Dream. He's basically just donning a pearl necklace fit for swine.
It sounds like these Opus Dei types are just like evangelicals. I grew up Catholic and no one I knew was one of them. Maybe you have to be rich or something.
and Now Trucker Carlson (sic) is getting in the game (the demons schtick). I think he's getting ready to be a preacher...
Purely for transactional reasons I’d imagine since Theil to get Opus on board with Christians.
Diverges from the church…Catholic element is a front indeed.
The Mercers know…
I believe Carlson was really attacked by the demons he has inside him.
Wow! I am so glad that this author didnt get bumped off before releasing the book. Those are very powerful people, and the world needs to know!
I'm skeptical of his claims of them being very small in number
@@richardarriaga6271 Well he's not gonna be right about *everything.*
"Religion poisons everything"-Christopher Hitchens
I have studied the Opus Dei and included them a few years ago in my: "Catholic Orders and Movements Accused of being Cult-like"
Leo wants to get his late daughter sainted. He's a maniac. Hospitality, teenage girls, servitude. Handmaids? Has Trump/Epstein vibes in its creepy implications.
So this is the DaVinci Code meets the Handmaids Tale meets Ayn Randian Fountanhead …. What could go wrong?????
Seems lime there's nothing left at that point. That combination checks every terrible box imaginable for society.
Jeez the list of people you named off is frightening for the proximity of power
The penny randomly dropped for me a few months ago when I was looking into Pope Franis after his latest slip up slur re LGBTQ people. I realised he's basically like the progressive liberal Obama of the vatican...they've literally got they're own American Trump/Senior Cardinal on the sidelines who hangs around with likes of Steve Bannon & co. It's terrifying, Vatican is basically hanging onto power & tryna to keep these lunatics out. Hence why the far right hates the current Pope. If they have their 2016 moment...it's over.
Opus Dei is designed to force religious concepts and precepts onto those who have no need, no want, and indeed a mandate to keep these ideas out of their professional lives. Such as government workers, law professionals and other secular and public services.
If you’re a Catholic convert under 40, there’s an 80% chance you’re actually just a fascist obsessed with Catholic aesthetics.
Probably higher lol and I like the theology. Pride enabling every sin, stuff like that. Cool stuff
I'll add I dont think they actually believe in their own holy books I think they were raised to hate others and use it to justify that
I like reading Aquinas, but I'm not a Catholic (at least not yet).
I’m unable to stay calm any longer abt the similarities between reality & A handmaid’s tale
Margaret Atwood knows of what she speaks!
I read the book long ago, and I was thinking for a long time of watching the show, but I decided not to because reality is scary enough I don't need to watch it.
Opus Dei have their big retreat just down the street from my house in rural Virginia and it is very sus, what is going on there
You should sneak in then report back!
'Projection is a defense mechanism' is what springs to mind. The same conspiracy's they spread across the far-right online...are the same things they get up to. Hence why they're so detailed imo.
They have one between Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska. It's surrounded by high fences and guard shacks. I wouldn't want to try to sneak in.
@@LillyAntiLolita-vj5zyYou cannot enter those houses unless you are ‘invited’ and arrive with an O.D. member.
Christianity was designed as a military psychological operation and it has been highly successful. Even Ginsberg cited a papal bull from the 1500's in her authored decision on Sherrill vs Oneida.
Spaniard that studied at opus deis uni. Very good education. Whole heartedly disagree with their political views.
Very simple, They just want to be close to power and push their agenda the same way they did during Franco.
They were in tight with a dictator, doesn't surprise me one bit!
Didn’t they do heinous things with children during Franco???
Creeepy much! How did Spain get pastFranco? Because Spain is on the side of the angels now, in my opinion.
@@valeriewedel2775An older Spaniard here. Spain went through several years of a difficult (and at times violent) transition towards Democracy with a lot of struggle, there was much uncertainty about how it would turn out. Franco had groomed Prince Juan Carlos since chilhood to continue his policies, but it failed as the King preferred to be part of a parliamentary monarchy. Likewise, former figures of the Movimiento Nacional (Franco’s political faction and only party allowed) had a very important role in bringing Democracy to Spain, solidifying and participating in it for the first decades.
@@Darkstarr-ud2goNot the Opus Dei necessarily, that’s what ‘people of the cloth’ (and not just the Catholics) have done over the centuries.
Interesting. And brave of you to cover this.
They are not just the baddies in a bad Dan Brown novel.
Sam and Emma have hit the mother lode on the Catholic connection. 7 of the 9 Justices are Catholic. Ain't hard to figure out.
Yeah and so is the DEMENTED President, who has a history of taking showers with his DAUGHTER! Spare me with the FAKE OUTRAGE!😂
But this Opus Dei thing is not regular Catholic at all. Most Catholics know nothing about these Opus Dei people. They seem like a sect within the religion.
6 of the 9. To my knowledge, Gorsuch isn’t Catholic.
@@jujutrini8412Unless you have connections to power and wealth, you won't have exposure to it.
There are other dark groups in the Catholic Church besides Opus Dei. Names usually begin with Order of or Knights of
Maybe all of the smaller media companies should start and pay into a legal fund/prepaid insurance type fund so that when they get sued everyone works together instead of individually.
Read the book, everyone, please! It's an eye opener. Thank you Majority Report.
Yes Thank you Majority Report
Nobody expected the Spanish J.D. Vance!
My friend spent yrs in counselling after abuses by Opus Dei.
Have him contact the author
It's a real shame these interviews generally don't seem to get as many views as clips like those pertaining to Tim Pool, Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro etc... I hope many more listen to them on the podcasts or something and that more people so listen to the interviews than I realised
i lived at an Opus Dei residence in near the University of Toronto about twenty years ago. They were devout Catholics who lived together to practice their faith. I am not Catholic but was accepted as business school student who paid $800 Cdn a month for room and board (actually I didn't even know what Opus Dei was when I applied). A number of priests lived with us and we shared our meals together after saying grace, played sports and talked at length. Only men were allowed in the residence because it was a men's residence. Nothing unusual ever happened there except an early curfew and occasional late night prayer for those who chose it. I enjoyed my time with a group of sincere and thoughtful men.
Your single, limited experience in a controlled environment doesn't cancel out all the other experiences people have had with Opus Dei, unfortunately.
My friend was abused in Opus Dei. Self flagellation was one of the things she was brainwashed into. She had counselling by a Fransciscan psychologist priest for yrs after. It has a dark inner circle.
You were not targeted, that’s why things flew under the radar for you.
Baaaaaa.🐑🐑🐑
I'm flabbergasted. Quite fully.
listening to his book currently! Extremely engaging
Right-wingers absolutely use religion as a shield for secular goals. Just read social media.
Can you imagine how those same people would react if this was a Muslim equivalent attempting to do the same thing? We already know how they often act against Islam but this would be blasted all across the media. In the end Religion just shouldn't dictate what happens in politics and should be a private affair for people (provided it's lawful obviously)
@@teethgrinder83 Abolitionist movements were absolutely driven by religion. Even the civil rights movement with pastors like MLK. You might find the polar opposite of Opus Dei pushing liberation theology somewhere in Latin America. The issue is what they chose to push.
@@richardarriaga6271 mate you're twisting what I said or at the least misinterpreted it. My point was religion shouldn't DICTATE what happens in politics, I didn't claim religion hasn't helped change course before. Anyway if you want to play the game of how religion has helped achieve goals I could point to just as many if not more goals it's hindered-this is why I say it should be a PERSONAL thing. I'm fully aware of how different dominations etc...may push different ideas, my mum is Church of Scotland, dad Atheist, partner Catholic and I'm generally open but skeptical. For me (unless I have some awakening) religion is just interesting due to its long historical and social significance and I generally find it interesting but I don't think it's necessary to be "good", most people are inherently good I think, that goodness just needs to be nurtured and grown. But that's only what I think and again it's why I think religion shouldn't be mixed with politics in an overt way. Maybe I could have worded what I said better, I don't know, but you certainly misinterpreted what I was saying
This guy looks and sounds like a renegade monk spillin the goods
Ikr 😅
He’s a counterfeit
I actually thought he was a friar from the thumbnail
As a constant student of history, this all seems so medieval. Yet here we are. With millions of people leaving religion behind how does this all pan out?
Steve Bannon stated years ago that they were going to go medieval on us.
Fascinating to gain all that female free labor in the Opus Dei operating structure.
Labor? You could call it that.
Celibate servitude, available to go wherever they are sent to work.
@@DulceN Officially celibate servitude. God knows what those creeps do to these poor women. 😳
Love the show. Left is best.
SHOUT OUT TO SANDEE! She runs Left Of The Box, which is a great Canadian political show.
Hmm I'm not a fan of this whole..... """christofascism""" thing. I don't like this at all 😒
ETA: that book cover goes hard tho! looks very nice 👍
The church has been this way forever and not going to change
Makes me wonder, is Tony Blair Opus Dei, he came out as Catholic at the end of his premier ship.
In Uruguay one of our former presedint was a OPUS DAI member and he did really good thing for the country, like he won a trial against Phillip Morris putting Uruguay as one of the only country of won a trial again a multinational company
Service and humility are as rare of real food.
Shoot, I haven't heard a whisper about Opus Dei since the DaVinci Code. Wild.
Gareth Gore is a fantastic name.
GG, Gory Gareth, GG.
This needs more investigation !!!!!!
From everything I'm learning, we can count on it unfortunately. It must be fought!🗽 Resist
Sam: "What you said was disturbing."
Gareth: "No shit Sherlock."
God, that was a horrible list of people who are associated with oppas dai.
Never liked Scalia
Someone disliked him a bit more …
@@Darkstarr-ud2goNo, he just didn't use his CPAP on a hunting trip. But he was too libertarian for modern Federalists.
Opus Dei is gonna end up like the wack religious zealots from game of thrones. That shit was the freakiest part of that whole series to me personally
Bad Sisters on Apple TV has an unpleasant character who is opus day!! Great series too….🎉
Hagar House wausau wi. Horrid place.. just disgusting how the city I live in is proceeding with zero accountability. Its gross, i wish i could move out of here. I was raised a UU but boy is it scary how I very well could have been raised something like this in this area.
This also ties in with the current Mormon ideology from that book, and the anti trafficking hero movie.
I read somewhere that Mel Gibson and his father were in Opus Dei.
Shia lebeouf
They're traditionalist Catholics who don't recognize any recent Popes.
@@sarahnicoleanastasia Oh really? That explains a lot about Shia!
In addition to being Antisemitic 😮
@@raymondmartin6737 Yeah, well, that kind of goes with the territory!
Hmm. Even those of Jewish heritage are members but is still referred to as Catholic. How's that possible?
Because Jews can convert to Catholicism
There's always some weird overlap with the hardcore zionists, many of whom couldn't care less for religion. Often race/genetics or whatever weird bs they're into trumps religion. They're smart enough to not get high on their own supply...that's for the masses.
They must be conversos!
Miracles...
Sen. Sam Brownback was a member.
This sounds very like Zionism. Are they interconnected?
The plot thickens
@@qjtvaddictThe Sanhedrin asked Trump and Putin if they would help rebuild the Third Temple and they accepted the offer.
I would like to know how all this intersects with the Evangelicals and The Family. I have spent some time on this subject knowing this is not the first time figureheads have attempted to interject religion into politics however these people like, Leonard Leo now have unbelievable amounts of money to spread the propaganda of Opus Dei and other religious ideologies.
I really hate when religion gets mixed with politics. It is very concerning what could happen in the United States. Other religions, non Christians, atheists and agnostics could be targets for prosecution if these extremists get their way. I could never imagine that the United States could possibly go this low.
Hooray the handmaids tale coming your way, looks like Margaret Attwood’s book turned out to be non fiction.
Let's make sure that it doesn't!
The re-elected President will as the Commander In Chief, being practicing
his powers on the women too. 😮
Hooray? Really???
Why isn’t there an organization that encourages the elites to help the poor.
Hero!
Rumsfeld helped Opus Dei gain political power in D.C. while they helped him become THE trafficker to The Vatican and their cronies through Lolita Express. I was there. Enhance the box.
When was the last time Opus Dei carried out a genocide like the one being done now by the current fundamentalist sect?
They are happy about what is happening in Gaza, it's all about being the biggest religion in this world, the more worshippers the better according to their beliefs. So getting rid of other religions is a big part of that. They got a hold on the white nationalists and want a holy war.
Are you aware that this group are fundamentally against Jew.
Hmm a sect can only be fundamentalists if we use the original Greek definition of a sect. Fundamentalism means you return to the core teachings of a philosophy. Opus Dei are not fundamentalists. They have many things that add on or subtract from the New Testament. Fundamentalist Christians only acknowledge the New Testament and no other newer ideas like Saints. Protestant Christians are more fundamentalists than any Catholic.
Just ordered this book. Get me out of this country or planet!!!
It is very powerful in the US military under the name, the Dominists.
Amazing book, I’m surprised he hasn’t been unalived yet. Mafia will do what mafia does.
The parents of the current zeitgeist in America: A Canadian author & a Roman Catholic priest in Fascist Spain in 1928
A way to identify an opus dei member or close to the sect is how many times attends mass, a member have to attends daily, in the morning preferly, also a deep belief in racism, a "documented" racism
Gareth Gore, looking like a monk, adds a bit of credence to his message.
I know that radical evangelicals and catholics have made some pact in the 1990's. Do you know if it's the NAR and Opus Dei? Why is there so little information about this?
Please make a list of the people who are Opus Dei
Also in their vocabulary is often said the words, spiritual guide.
They are permitted to lie if they think it serves God.
The weird thing is everything you guys talked about here: very small group that is very influential in US govt and can't be criticized due to religion can also be said of J**is ppl but we're not allowed to talk about it as openly as you discuss these Catholic ppl.
KevinRoerts must have gotten Opus Dei “ spiritual guidance “ when he beat his neighbor’s dog to death with a shovel…
Cool. I bet the best way to being this to light is to make some indie game about it and game theory will make a video about it
Lol 😂😂😂 you can accuse me of being anti catholic
It’s all a Dan brown novel
I really don't know what it means to say OD is "more political than religious". Isn't all religion largely about morality, and thus political? Maybe some religions say they don't "get involved with politics", but that only means they don't get involved in electoral politics, or that they don't tell others how they should behave. But they all hold beliefs which clearly prescribe and proscribe flr us certain behaviors, policies and candidates.
What about the Manhattan Institute?
Opus Dei? You mean THAT Opus Dei, from "The Da Vinci Code"?
Sam did point that out btw.
@@ZER0-- I was just surprised that it's still around after the furor that "the Da Vinci Code" stirred up!
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n The Davinci Code was a rip off of another book. It even went to court. And I knew about the book before Dan Brown's and though the plaintiff lost it was definitely a rip off. It's called 'The Blood, the Grail...." or something like that.
This seems overblown. My 2nd grade teacher was Opus Dei, she taught and did work for the poor and Hispanics like her. She lived it out as a way of being deeply compassionate and faithful, both and.
Guess your second grade teacher failed the order by not being able to seize any power for them. Then again. . . she did turn you into a propagandist for their wholesomeness.
Please ignore the previous commenter. I reported his abusive comment.
@@emilymatienzo5922 Looking at your comment history, it's plain to see why you think what I said was "abusive." Bet you can't actually justify it though.
Kansas here! It's really hard to compete with Citizens United and fb Jesus 😢 Our female, Democrat Governor has cleaned up quite a bit of Sam Doucheback's mess.
He chose to wear a brown hoodie for the interview, I thought he was a monk from a Dan Brown movie.
Do they go Bohemian Grove too? 😮
“Hospitality Schools?”
Gareth's hoodie top looks like an Anglican friar's cassock. Are we sure he's not a Franciscan? 😏
Opus D.E.I. 😂
Opus de shuffle 😢
We've been taken over by the bad guys from a Dan Brown novel. This is the STUPIDEST timeline.
Handmaidens for Trump for everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
French fries