I definitely disagree with some points here. 70 pitches isn't really a high pitch count. And frankly, I blame Latos for the meat ball he threw to Posey, as he let the previous call not going his way get in his head. The analysis was interesting though, I didn't really know our bullpen was that good that year. To be sure, in the playoffs, you do whatever it takes to get the win. Additionally, the strike out/caught stealing double play featuring Hanigan and Bruce was a horrible call as well. Bruce never had a chance to straight steal third, and Hanigan should not have looked at strike three. That was another horrible managerial call. I guess if Hanigan drives it, Baker looks like a genius. Even if he grounded out, but the moving runners prevented a double play, he looks decent. Unfortunately the worst thing happened. The game and series was full of missed chances and gaffes, including a Hanigan passed ball that looked like he just *missed* it. Disappointing series, especially with how poorly the team is doing ten years later. The postseason is a distant dream for us right now.
Ugh, this kills me. the pitching rotation starting every game except one, and Votto batting .341!! The 2012 Reds were by far their best team since 1990... might have been better than the 1990 team, too. It's been downhill ever since. As a diehard fan, this hurts me.
even as a casual reds fan it pains me to see them dead in the water. my uncle lives in cincy & when i was younger we used to go down there every summer to visit. i wanna say this went on from 2007 to maybe 2014 or 2015, so i caught some great action at GABP during that stretch in which they made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years from 2010-2013. definitely made some great memories watching those teams, i’d love to see them operate competently again.
I was at that game. I was 11. I am still scarred and haunted by buster posey and Matt latos all these years later. Little 11 year old me wasn’t ready to get slapped in the face with reality yet😂😂
@Sherman Pearson You can have him back. I love the man; he was a great player and probably an even better person. The Astros rarely play a game with their true starters playing together, because he is always giving guys a day off. He once gave a guy the day off when he was on a 8-10 game hitting streak! He needs to watch Bull Durham, you never f**k with a streak, lol. He doesn't know when to pull a pitcher (mainly relievers when it is clear they don't have their stuff that night). That blame also falls on the pitching coach, but in the end the head always has the final word. Plays guys hitting .200 instead of legitimate players who you just traded for! I wouldn't say Dusty is a bad coach, he just isn't a WS Championship caliber coach.
Don't forget. Dusty was the manager that bitterly complained about a player that walked too much, and "clogged up the bases." Completely true. Dusty Baker, the PLAYER, didn't walk much. Why the HELL would you hire a guy that doesn't value a high on-base percentage. That's our Dusty!!
Living in and around Cincinnati my entire life, I have always been, and always will be, a Reds fan. Even when it's really hard to be one. Dusty had a mentality of "There are no BIG games," because he didn't want to put pressure on the players and make them panic and make mistakes... And that's why every team he manages can't win BIG games. He wants to show faith in players, which can be great, but there's this thing called "situational awareness" that he seems to lack, and it ruined a phenomenal Reds 2012 season.
Somehow that's not even in the top 2 collapses that season. I see the Reds went 2-4 against the Cards in Aug/Sep and folded a ~5 game lead for the wild card. Interesting.
He’s a terrible manager who holds back good teams, San Francisco and Chicago won after they fired him. The Astros will never win the big one with Dusty running the show, he needs to retire. Add Washington to that list.
I was very disappointed when they brought Baker back after getting blanked the in the 2010 playoffs. I'm not going to say he wasn't a good manager (I don't think he is but I don't have a team) but he wasn't a good fit for Cincinnati. Kind of like how Tony Dungy couldn't win the Super Bowl with Tampa. Gruden could but then Tony ended up in Indy and won it all. Not a bad coach, just couldn't get them over the hump and I think Cincy should have sent Baker packing and brought in someone else while they still had a playoff team. They've been rebuilding without a clue ever since.
@@zachhoward9099 Okay, 1 WS and 2 pennants in 26 years. That still ain't a great record. But I get it, the dusty sycophants have to believe he's great because if they don't, well, they got zip.
He didn’t kneel for it, he just chose not to be apart of it. But he needs to go for a lot of reason, not that. He’s terrible. And yes i know 107 wins last year.
Terrible. Dude it was the 5th inning. Stick to exposes like the one on Mike Andrews. Second guessing is for those who never had a First guess to begin with
Latos had allowed 4 hits and 1 walk in the previous 2/3 of an inning, prior to the grand slam. It's a do-or-die game, and you've got one of the best bullpens in recent history. Not to mention that a .336/.408/.549 hitter is coming to the plate, with the bases loaded. I know we have hindsight, but Latos was reeling at this point. It's not crazy to suggest he should've come out.
Ive seen worse. Buck show. Made big gaffe in game 3 yanks vrs sea... he pitched a guy who he shoulda saved for game 4. It was 5 game series and yanks were up 2 0. Guess who was pitchin for sea. In game 3.... the big unit. Yes he got fired. Joe girardi sat a rod for 2 games in the playoffs vrs det...bad move... awful move... a rod was gonna be fine coming out of a slump not to mention his defense.. It was awful move believe me... yanks lost series. I never trusted jug head joe ever again. Philly found out too. He should never manage in bigs ever again.
Anyone can second-guess a decision made in a game played 12 years ago. Let's see you face the same choice, and see if you fare any better. Until you do, shut up.
Latos had allowed 4 hits and 1 walk in the previous 2/3 of an inning, prior to the grand slam. It's a do-or-die game, and you've got one of the best bullpens in recent history. Not to mention that a .336/.408/.549 hitter is coming to the plate, with the bases loaded. I know we have hindsight, but Latos was reeling at this point. It's not crazy to suggest he should've come out.
I loved Dusty as a player with the Dodgers growing up but man oh man, I don't understand why teams keep hiring him as manager. He's blown more than one World Series and at this point is too old and stubborn to change his ways. Thank God he's managing Houston - a team that I'd like to see implode. Do your thing Dusty.
so basically youre blaming dusty baker because the reds played bad? yeah he could have switched pitchers but the reds also made a lot of errors, what is dusty supposed to do, go in there and play for them?
Do you even watch baseball, and did you watch the video? They had an elite bullpen - part of being a manager is bullpen management. I.e. when your starter is getting shelled, you put in a top guy like Aroldis Chapman with a 1.5 ERA to get out of the inning.
The Reds have been the worst team in baseball w/o Dusty and were horrible before he got there. We had a few good years when he was there but now they are a disgrace. In my opinion it was all because Cincinnati is a racist city
I definitely disagree with some points here. 70 pitches isn't really a high pitch count. And frankly, I blame Latos for the meat ball he threw to Posey, as he let the previous call not going his way get in his head. The analysis was interesting though, I didn't really know our bullpen was that good that year. To be sure, in the playoffs, you do whatever it takes to get the win. Additionally, the strike out/caught stealing double play featuring Hanigan and Bruce was a horrible call as well. Bruce never had a chance to straight steal third, and Hanigan should not have looked at strike three. That was another horrible managerial call. I guess if Hanigan drives it, Baker looks like a genius. Even if he grounded out, but the moving runners prevented a double play, he looks decent. Unfortunately the worst thing happened. The game and series was full of missed chances and gaffes, including a Hanigan passed ball that looked like he just *missed* it. Disappointing series, especially with how poorly the team is doing ten years later. The postseason is a distant dream for us right now.
Ugh, this kills me. the pitching rotation starting every game except one, and Votto batting .341!! The 2012 Reds were by far their best team since 1990... might have been better than the 1990 team, too. It's been downhill ever since. As a diehard fan, this hurts me.
even as a casual reds fan it pains me to see them dead in the water. my uncle lives in cincy & when i was younger we used to go down there every summer to visit. i wanna say this went on from 2007 to maybe 2014 or 2015, so i caught some great action at GABP during that stretch in which they made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years from 2010-2013. definitely made some great memories watching those teams, i’d love to see them operate competently again.
Dusty doesn't plan or strategize; he just let his players like they're playing in someone's backyard
I was at that game. I was 11. I am still scarred and haunted by buster posey and Matt latos all these years later. Little 11 year old me wasn’t ready to get slapped in the face with reality yet😂😂
Dusty Baker has ruined every team he's gone to ,only Man that can turn gold into crap
You’re a goofy I-d-i-o-t! He won the world series.
Great video!! I'd love to see a higher resolution going forward though.
Dusty will get you to the dance then he’ll step in it. Worst WS manager alive.
I wish the reds had him..we suck without him
@Sherman Pearson You can have him back. I love the man; he was a great player and probably an even better person. The Astros rarely play a game with their true starters playing together, because he is always giving guys a day off. He once gave a guy the day off when he was on a 8-10 game hitting streak! He needs to watch Bull Durham, you never f**k with a streak, lol. He doesn't know when to pull a pitcher (mainly relievers when it is clear they don't have their stuff that night). That blame also falls on the pitching coach, but in the end the head always has the final word. Plays guys hitting .200 instead of legitimate players who you just traded for! I wouldn't say Dusty is a bad coach, he just isn't a WS Championship caliber coach.
Dusty has forgotten more than you'll EVER learn about baseball; stay in your own lane
@@farpointgamingdirect . F you. That’s the stupidest comment yet. Pull his D out of your mouth. Stay in your own lane. Gimme a break.
@@farpointgamingdirect the meat riding is crazy
Don't forget. Dusty was the manager that bitterly complained about a player that walked too much, and "clogged up the bases." Completely true. Dusty Baker, the PLAYER, didn't walk much. Why the HELL would you hire a guy that doesn't value a high on-base percentage. That's our Dusty!!
Hopefully Dusty Baker continues his brilliance with Houston this year.
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Living in and around Cincinnati my entire life, I have always been, and always will be, a Reds fan. Even when it's really hard to be one.
Dusty had a mentality of "There are no BIG games," because he didn't want to put pressure on the players and make them panic and make mistakes...
And that's why every team he manages can't win BIG games. He wants to show faith in players, which can be great, but there's this thing called "situational awareness" that he seems to lack, and it ruined a phenomenal Reds 2012 season.
Brooks Conrad is forever a Giants legend
Bla bla bla. Use less words and get to the point
No shit. Agreed.
Reds fan here. Do one on the Cardinals winning streak and how that caused the collapse of the 2021 Reds.
Somehow that's not even in the top 2 collapses that season. I see the Reds went 2-4 against the Cards in Aug/Sep and folded a ~5 game lead for the wild card. Interesting.
@@walkoffstudios the Padres had a collapse equally as bad.
@@RyansColoradoRailProductions Padres finished the season 11-34 to end under .500. They had big expectations too.
Dusty can’t manage pitchers to save his life.
You need to talk faster
Nah he doesn’t
Dusty Baker has never been a good manager. I never understood how he got so many jobs
I bet he gets elected to the HOF too
He’s a terrible manager who holds back good teams, San Francisco and Chicago won after they fired him. The Astros will never win the big one with Dusty running the show, he needs to retire. Add Washington to that list.
But yet…The Astros won…
I was very disappointed when they brought Baker back after getting blanked the in the 2010 playoffs. I'm not going to say he wasn't a good manager (I don't think he is but I don't have a team) but he wasn't a good fit for Cincinnati. Kind of like how Tony Dungy couldn't win the Super Bowl with Tampa. Gruden could but then Tony ended up in Indy and won it all. Not a bad coach, just couldn't get them over the hump and I think Cincy should have sent Baker packing and brought in someone else while they still had a playoff team. They've been rebuilding without a clue ever since.
How have the reds done w/o Dusty
mr boss of basball videos, purposely talking slow to hit 10 minutes.
Why everyone thinks dusty baker is some great manager is beyond me. 2 pennants in 25 years managing and 0, nada, none World Series titles.
Your comment aged like Milk😂
@@zachhoward9099 Okay, 1 WS and 2 pennants in 26 years. That still ain't a great record. But I get it, the dusty sycophants have to believe he's great because if they don't, well, they got zip.
Nice video 🙂
Meanwhile we are trash since firing Baker and Houston is great... BTW we were not shit before Baker
I thought the exact same thing. I'm in Houston so of course an astros fan
Latos character and terrible attitude, probably played a role in this decision
Dusty is soooooo overrated. I was so happy when he left SF till they got their current, even worse, virtue signaling, kneel for the anthem manager.
He didn’t kneel for it, he just chose not to be apart of it. But he needs to go for a lot of reason, not that. He’s terrible. And yes i know 107 wins last year.
Terrible. Dude it was the 5th inning. Stick to exposes like the one on Mike Andrews. Second guessing is for those who never had a First guess to begin with
Latos had allowed 4 hits and 1 walk in the previous 2/3 of an inning, prior to the grand slam. It's a do-or-die game, and you've got one of the best bullpens in recent history. Not to mention that a .336/.408/.549 hitter is coming to the plate, with the bases loaded. I know we have hindsight, but Latos was reeling at this point. It's not crazy to suggest he should've come out.
Ive seen worse. Buck show. Made big gaffe in game 3 yanks vrs sea... he pitched a guy who he shoulda saved for game 4. It was 5 game series and yanks were up 2 0. Guess who was pitchin for sea. In game 3.... the big unit. Yes he got fired. Joe girardi sat a rod for 2 games in the playoffs vrs det...bad move... awful move... a rod was gonna be fine coming out of a slump not to mention his defense..
It was awful move believe me... yanks lost series. I never trusted jug head joe ever again. Philly found out too. He should never manage in bigs ever again.
As a tigers fans this makes me sad because I think we could have beaten the reds or the cardinals in that World Series
As a reds fan it makes me sad cause I KNOW we woulda demolished the tigers like the giants did
lol no bro, the reds were a way better team than the giants that year
Anyone can second-guess a decision made in a game played 12 years ago.
Let's see you face the same choice, and see if you fare any better.
Until you do, shut up.
Latos had allowed 4 hits and 1 walk in the previous 2/3 of an inning, prior to the grand slam. It's a do-or-die game, and you've got one of the best bullpens in recent history. Not to mention that a .336/.408/.549 hitter is coming to the plate, with the bases loaded. I know we have hindsight, but Latos was reeling at this point. It's not crazy to suggest he should've come out.
Not as bad as taking Schmidt out in game 6
Was Russ Ortiz.
I loved Dusty as a player with the Dodgers growing up but man oh man, I don't understand why teams keep hiring him as manager. He's blown more than one World Series and at this point is too old and stubborn to change his ways. Thank God he's managing Houston - a team that I'd like to see implode. Do your thing Dusty.
This comment aged poorly🤣
@@zachhoward9099 Aint that the truth! I was actually happy to see him get a ring, was the only part of that WS I enjoyed.
The reds sold that year
Dusty knows baseball better than pretty much everyone
so basically youre blaming dusty baker because the reds played bad? yeah he could have switched pitchers but the reds also made a lot of errors, what is dusty supposed to do, go in there and play for them?
Do you even watch baseball, and did you watch the video? They had an elite bullpen - part of being a manager is bullpen management. I.e. when your starter is getting shelled, you put in a top guy like Aroldis Chapman with a 1.5 ERA to get out of the inning.
Brutal commentating .. dry eye guy doing thia?
You go into way too much detail... or maybe if you didn't sound like you're dying of boredom yourself, it all might be more tolerable. SMH
The Reds have been the worst team in baseball w/o Dusty and were horrible before he got there. We had a few good years when he was there but now they are a disgrace. In my opinion it was all because Cincinnati is a racist city
Please elaborate because you sound utterly insane or simply race baiting without any proof.
Try to have a little more excitement in your voice bro