Even before this patch, things were still miserable. This season I've been climbing on tank and stagnant on DPS and Support - I was thinking "How is that the case, I feel like I'm losing most on tank." Went and checked my winrates: all tanks like 65-70%, yet it feels like every tank game has been utterly miserable. I'm winning more than 2 out 3, yet the experience sucks so much, they feel like losses. And that was **before** they nerfed tanks!
@@darcidious99 and instead of throwing slurs he's huffing copium thinking that the devs achieved their goal of making tank fun. Yeah sure they did, but at the cost of other roles being so bad! It all shows us that all 3 roles CANNOT exist in harmony in a 1:2:2 setting. There will always be an outlier all the time!
Flats would not have been nearly as upset at stuff like the shield misplay if this dude was silent, perfect example of how acting like a tool makes people 10x more critical of your mistakes. Shogun was truly a wild character
Yup. I'll play tank and do amazing then have shitty dps. I'll get titled and switch to dps, do amazing then I get a tank that apparently has no eyes or headset. To actually have fun over countless games you need a team
@@johnp9988I love this point because it doesn't make any sense. You can go 50-3 and still lose due to teammates having improper positioning, poor aim, terrible all around game sense, and just outright feeding/throwing ON PURPOSE. And yet apparently that's ALL your fault.
@@pastromer8552exactly bro as a doomfist it’s so much more fun now that you can actually fight tanks again I can’t believe they never compensated doomfist for that before smh
@@Sir_Bratzeeveryone's gonna hate something about any good game. The difference with deadlock and ow2 is that deadlock has potential. It's not ruined by a incompetent dev team that are afraid to make drastic balance changes to make their game work.
@@JMBTheProdigyif I’m being honest when I see that game all I see is a grey screen plus overwatch is on almost every platform with deadlock is only on pc and might stay only on pc it won’t be as big as overwatch ever
I go sweaty when the whole lobby goes sweaty, sometimes I get some mostly silly guys lobby and be chill about it, then there is some random douchebag that goes for the kills playing very serious when everybody is emoting and having fun or something ruining the vibes.
Idk, Had some fun sweaty games in qp. But that's when we had two actually functional teams and everyone chose to play a relatively fun hero to play against Not fkng Sombra.
My favorite thing is when people pick healer and then DPS and then proceeded to blame me as the tank for not doing anything yet I can't do anything because I'm not getting enough heals 😊
honestly ever sense they changed how long Maugas overdrive last I feel like he isnt that unethical unless you are playing Hog into him (in which case you deserve to get ran down by a Mauga if you are playing Hog)
Like I get where you’re coming from but it’s really sad to see you go from love playing overwatch to only playing the game when you know ad rev is gonna be through the ceiling like if you go through all your ow2 videos you can slowly watch flats hate the game more and more
I have more fun playing quickplay, diving around the map as Winston, and ignoring the rest of my team than sweating in ranked and playing counter-tank.
this video was funny, ty flats :^) it sucks that he’s pressed into a corner a bit to play ow so he can make a living. if the stardew videos had edited down versions instead of uncut 8+ hours i’d definitely watch
Man the weaver rework was great but now i hate having weaver on my team. They miss every opportunity to make plays bc theyre missing shots on a junker queen in narnia
at this point with the state of tanks they need to separate all tanks "tank passive" so each tank has its own version to balance separately, do the same for healer and dps tbh, separate how armour effects each tank individually so e.g. rhines armour blocks 10 damage and dva 7 etc. same for dps and healer as well then go full scorched earth, tanks should ONLY tank, meaning no flanking tanks like ball and doom, no more "health" tanks like roadhog and mauga, if we are not going back to 6v6 outside a test then tanks need to only have one or two jobs not the current 7, one person cant cover for diving/counter diving, flanking/counter flanking, front line play make, squishy cover, rally point, space maker, and wall if they really want to stay 5v5 then tanks need to either be just dps with a lot of health which is boring and uninteresting and just means tanks are kaiju or they need to remove anything that's not a TANK tank, winston is the best example of a dive tank that dives to cover their diving dps, doom doesn't do that hes very selfish, we cant have selfish tanks in 5v5 because unless they are in high masters and are a god at doom they just make the game miserable for everyone else this may sound absurd but it would fix a lot of the 5v5 issues even if it would make tanks very boring and super similar
Genuinely hope Deadlock pops off so you can play that more - anything seems like it would be more fun for you than this D: (ngl tho, teabagging tilt Flats is kinda fun to see on occasion, just for lolz)
Is forcing cart the only option for rein here? The play seemed... fine, until he turned the corner to shatter their spawn alone. Could he hold that angle where supports can see him to prevent flank damage? Although the wall does a good job of that... im seriously asking. I suck at rein now
Cause shogun wouldve started throwing the game/playing worse. Same reason you don't shit talk your boss to their face, it would feel good but it's not worth it.
I would watch a Gordon Ramseys Style show, of flats just berating and insulting tanks that dunno wtf they're doing and are actively bad at higher ranked plays, like a spectating bronze of tanks in high rank sorta thing where any hint of mercy because of rank is removed and he just tears a dude's gameplay apart xD
How on earth do you get out of lower ranks in this game? I'm honestly at a loss. I came back to the game, because I just felt like playing for a while again. My main class is in mid Gold, which is fine, even when I played more back in OW1 days and OW2 launch I never got past Platinum. But my side classes are mid-low Silver, and every single game is just filled with trolls. People afk or grief at the slightest bit of inconvenience. I'm trying to stay positive, but the way people act in the lower ranks just instantly makes me regret launching the game on a daily basis now. Even if I improve myself, I can't 1v6 and I'm also not insane enough of a player to make enough difference to counter 1-2 afk'ers / trolls/ grievers. It just feels like eternal hardstuck low Silver on my alt classes now. And for my main I can't see it going higher than Gold either, because yes I still need to improve as a player. But matchmaking is throwing 2wins vs 3 losses all day. And more and more people that have the low ELO mindset and just throw or troll like 9 year olds who don't get candy from mummy.
Hey Flats, I hope you see this. It's been awhile since I've popped in. You look great fam, looks like you're lost weight, keep on the grind fam! It's encouraging ♥
Imagine your main game being so bad that you count the days you’re forced to play before you can switch to literally any other game. Like guys, JUST QUIT OVERWATCH. IT WONT GET BETTER, 6v6 WONT SAVE IT, AND BLIZZARD IS DEAD. Your viewers and mental will thank you for it.
That Shogun guy is the reason LifeWeaver has Life Grip.
😂
I wish it went through walls lol
Too bad trollers are the reason why lg got a reputation
But he made so much space, i think it was WORTH
indeed
shout out to the editor for being able to pump these videos out they're not simple lazy edits either
Dude cant even hide his misery anymore.
That's true for anyone who has played since OW 1 at this point
Tank players deserve the right to go insane after this update
the hog orisa buff 💀💀💀💀
Even before this patch, things were still miserable. This season I've been climbing on tank and stagnant on DPS and Support - I was thinking "How is that the case, I feel like I'm losing most on tank." Went and checked my winrates: all tanks like 65-70%, yet it feels like every tank game has been utterly miserable.
I'm winning more than 2 out 3, yet the experience sucks so much, they feel like losses. And that was **before** they nerfed tanks!
I missed this update anyone gotta link?
@@stevenmulari806 Tank passive and armor got nerfed
@@oneofthekindscarf8612 oh dam wtf
Shogun: They call me the space creator for a reason.
KarQ: Nobody calls you that.
XD
This is the same map where you met the Mac and cheese duo. This map has all the most interesting players
Havent seen Flats go this insane.... Feeling scared ngl
Having a tank duo would bring me back. I also miss the Emongg and Flats tank duo videos
this is the first time ive seen flats crash out like this before XD
Flats is one bad tank patch away from just throwing slurs out in every match... Im kinda here for it at this point.
Wdym? It already happened when they gigabuffed all tanks back in s11. There's literally nothing on the horizon except "6v6 update"
@@darcidious99 and instead of throwing slurs he's huffing copium thinking that the devs achieved their goal of making tank fun.
Yeah sure they did, but at the cost of other roles being so bad!
It all shows us that all 3 roles CANNOT exist in harmony in a 1:2:2 setting. There will always be an outlier all the time!
3:46 The Pepe face tho
I have also had games where we won not because, but despite, the efforts of our tank.
Flats would not have been nearly as upset at stuff like the shield misplay if this dude was silent, perfect example of how acting like a tool makes people 10x more critical of your mistakes. Shogun was truly a wild character
Remember when Flats said having a bad team has no effect on win or lose, you yourself just needs to be better? Theory busted huh.
Nooo dont blame the poor tank and supps, theyll cry if you do 😢
You are the only constant between all of your matches.
Yup. I'll play tank and do amazing then have shitty dps. I'll get titled and switch to dps, do amazing then I get a tank that apparently has no eyes or headset. To actually have fun over countless games you need a team
@@johnp9988yeah but 1 bad player on ur team is devastating but if it was in 6v6, the match could still be winnable fairly well !
@@johnp9988I love this point because it doesn't make any sense. You can go 50-3 and still lose due to teammates having improper positioning, poor aim, terrible all around game sense, and just outright feeding/throwing ON PURPOSE. And yet apparently that's ALL your fault.
7:50 Oh no hes gonna do it...
*hovers Mauga*
7:54 You rat bastard LOL
Tank just feels terrible now
The only hero I’ve found when playing yesterday that didn’t feel like garbage to play was Sigma
Doom doesnt feel too bad either because punching tanks actually matters again
And then you get flamed for not playing an aggressive tank.
@@pastromer8552exactly bro as a doomfist it’s so much more fun now that you can actually fight tanks again I can’t believe they never compensated doomfist for that before smh
Doom always feels bad he sucks @@pastromer8552
@@ooochoa You get flamed for everything it's always tank diff even if you play perfectly with the correct hero with the correct play style
Welcome to the new quick play, everybody is a sweat and a try-hard now
Watching flats clips from like a year ago he has lost so much weight. Like hes done so well keep it up!
It's a pity Deadlock videos get less views than OW. You seemed a lot less miserable playing that game.
cause its new. when that game comes out, it will be the same after the 2 month honeymoon phase
@@Sir_Bratzeeveryone's gonna hate something about any good game. The difference with deadlock and ow2 is that deadlock has potential. It's not ruined by a incompetent dev team that are afraid to make drastic balance changes to make their game work.
@@Sir_Bratze lol Ur funny I don't think u understand how big mobas are bud
@@JMBTheProdigyif I’m being honest when I see that game all I see is a grey screen plus overwatch is on almost every platform with deadlock is only on pc and might stay only on pc it won’t be as big as overwatch ever
@@boinggerss1560 imagine thinking overwatch is still "big" lmao.
"nobody calls you that"
IM DYING
4:30 The editor missed this one 👌🏼
Flats is the only OW content I consume. I’m glad I can enjoy a game I don’t like to play as much anymore though someone who is actually good
Joke's on you, I had already gone insane in OW1
flats describes the ability to pick ur struggle w that tank on blizz world
Gone insane? Brother you play tank we've been mad for years now, mental even.
It’s back to melt the tank sim
3:19 Look at that! It's like he was trying to give her a chance to shoot!
Shogun is like spectating bronze, in a live game
Overwatch CCs dreading having to play Overwatch. What a time to be alive.
people who try to ego or sweat on quickplay must be so miserable in real life
I go sweaty when the whole lobby goes sweaty, sometimes I get some mostly silly guys lobby and be chill about it, then there is some random douchebag that goes for the kills playing very serious when everybody is emoting and having fun or something ruining the vibes.
Always serious. Won't play otherwise.
well some people are tryna learn n get better for comp why wouldnt they try?
Idk, Had some fun sweaty games in qp.
But that's when we had two actually functional teams and everyone chose to play a relatively fun hero to play against Not fkng Sombra.
@@youtuberuser0109 yes but what about the ego? t bagging and such?
About time you realized
5v5 issue. Can’t wait for 6v6 to return
I just left a comment about Shogun on the flats RUclips shorts yesterday and now my dream came true. 😂
oh my god when rein micro-adjusted toward the statue for a split second and let the widow kill you i lost my mind 😭😭😭😭😭
Ramattra is armor bugged rn so he’s super tuff to kill
For me Mauga is so simple it makes him impossible for me to play.
So used to stress that a non stressful character induces more stress
"Tanks have gone insane"
Bro I've BEEN here already! Yall just catching up? 😂
I've never seen Flats so tilted before
2:40
front facing creature is not something I thought I needed in my life
I'm actually having a decent time as tank because all the other tanks don't know how to play them so I'll actually say there okay for now
Tbf im still playing tank like I have an other tank behind me lmao 😂
My favorite thing is when people pick healer and then DPS and then proceeded to blame me as the tank for not doing anything yet I can't do anything because I'm not getting enough heals 😊
Loved the tbagging part lol
This is what I mean when I say that playing tank turns you into a sociopath
honestly ever sense they changed how long Maugas overdrive last I feel like he isnt that unethical unless you are playing Hog into him (in which case you deserve to get ran down by a Mauga if you are playing Hog)
Like I get where you’re coming from but it’s really sad to see you go from love playing overwatch to only playing the game when you know ad rev is gonna be through the ceiling like if you go through all your ow2 videos you can slowly watch flats hate the game more and more
Need more toxic (revenge toxicity ofc) flats in my life
that last game lol
I make sure to do my job with endless tts spam and random coffee jokes.
My girlfriend is watching your drops streams for the Mei skin
Farming each other, Symbiosis
I feel bad for flats. To be forced to play overwatch 2 for 10 days in the row.
my average ow game
"are you guys down here because of the rank reset, or what?", did this fam really just try to neg Flats? big ooph 5:30
3:20 does he not realize he can look around without moving the shield 😂
I wanna see the true Bostonian come out of this man😂😂
Always been a tank main 💪
Counter Teabag is the only good version of Counterwatch. Good stuff.
Thanking mr editor so hard for skipping the Clash map. Rather watch paint dry than that garbage game mode
WHOS REALLY WINNING?! @6:55
How am I so early, love your content flats!
"So much other things to play than Overwatch."
- KarQ
I have more fun playing quickplay, diving around the map as Winston, and ignoring the rest of my team than sweating in ranked and playing counter-tank.
this video was funny, ty flats :^) it sucks that he’s pressed into a corner a bit to play ow so he can make a living. if the stardew videos had edited down versions instead of uncut 8+ hours i’d definitely watch
Watching Flats get annoyed by bad tanks makes me giggle lol
I'd know that laugh anywhere
Man the weaver rework was great but now i hate having weaver on my team. They miss every opportunity to make plays bc theyre missing shots on a junker queen in narnia
at this point with the state of tanks they need to separate all tanks "tank passive" so each tank has its own version to balance separately, do the same for healer and dps tbh, separate how armour effects each tank individually so e.g. rhines armour blocks 10 damage and dva 7 etc. same for dps and healer as well
then go full scorched earth, tanks should ONLY tank, meaning no flanking tanks like ball and doom, no more "health" tanks like roadhog and mauga, if we are not going back to 6v6 outside a test then tanks need to only have one or two jobs not the current 7, one person cant cover for diving/counter diving, flanking/counter flanking, front line play make, squishy cover, rally point, space maker, and wall
if they really want to stay 5v5 then tanks need to either be just dps with a lot of health which is boring and uninteresting and just means tanks are kaiju or they need to remove anything that's not a TANK tank, winston is the best example of a dive tank that dives to cover their diving dps, doom doesn't do that hes very selfish, we cant have selfish tanks in 5v5 because unless they are in high masters and are a god at doom they just make the game miserable for everyone else
this may sound absurd but it would fix a lot of the 5v5 issues even if it would make tanks very boring and super similar
Sojourn is the only hero I have fun playing anymore
I love flats like this
It's refreshing to see Toxic Flats Gameplay... I hope it's a rare sight here on youtube
Quick players will t-bag you for anything; they'll even do it when they get the assist
That Diva skin is STALE
Genuinely hope Deadlock pops off so you can play that more - anything seems like it would be more fun for you than this D:
(ngl tho, teabagging tilt Flats is kinda fun to see on occasion, just for lolz)
All the best players live on Blizzard world
Season 12 mid-season tier list coming soon??
Is forcing cart the only option for rein here? The play seemed... fine, until he turned the corner to shatter their spawn alone. Could he hold that angle where supports can see him to prevent flank damage? Although the wall does a good job of that... im seriously asking. I suck at rein now
honestly id rather see flats play deadlock over ow now lmao
when are we going to see Bortle Stream? 🤔🤔
First time watching flats. Why the fck is he that irritated?
Why doesn’t flats just unmute and tell Shogun what he’s thinking like damn. Bro stayed muted but still shit talked which is just worse.
Cause shogun wouldve started throwing the game/playing worse. Same reason you don't shit talk your boss to their face, it would feel good but it's not worth it.
at a certain point you learn that its just better to keep quiet and let them learn their own lessons than to seek out problems over nothing
Honestly that guy was playing fine and was funny as fuck we need more of that i do that shit in masters all the time
Even with or without these changes tank is still the hardest role to play and will only become worse over time😢
I love playing tanks, except not really
flats getting triggered is quality content
as a tank main yes
I hate it so much i get junk mined and i fly across the map on rein
I have no motivation to play overwatch because if you’re not playing qp like a cash cup you’ll be on a 15 loss streak which is great
I would watch a Gordon Ramseys Style show, of flats just berating and insulting tanks that dunno wtf they're doing and are actively bad at higher ranked plays, like a spectating bronze of tanks in high rank sorta thing where any hint of mercy because of rank is removed and he just tears a dude's gameplay apart xD
why is bro the fun police?
Tbf flats and Karq got dps diffed too. It wasnt just shogun who was ass.
This is your mental health coach speaking...
Go touch grass please.
I’ve been playing tank and haven’t won a single game…but it’s enjoyable…what has this role done to me?
How on earth do you get out of lower ranks in this game? I'm honestly at a loss. I came back to the game, because I just felt like playing for a while again. My main class is in mid Gold, which is fine, even when I played more back in OW1 days and OW2 launch I never got past Platinum. But my side classes are mid-low Silver, and every single game is just filled with trolls. People afk or grief at the slightest bit of inconvenience. I'm trying to stay positive, but the way people act in the lower ranks just instantly makes me regret launching the game on a daily basis now.
Even if I improve myself, I can't 1v6 and I'm also not insane enough of a player to make enough difference to counter 1-2 afk'ers / trolls/ grievers. It just feels like eternal hardstuck low Silver on my alt classes now. And for my main I can't see it going higher than Gold either, because yes I still need to improve as a player. But matchmaking is throwing 2wins vs 3 losses all day. And more and more people that have the low ELO mindset and just throw or troll like 9 year olds who don't get candy from mummy.
Hey Flats, I hope you see this. It's been awhile since I've popped in. You look great fam, looks like you're lost weight, keep on the grind fam! It's encouraging ♥
I'm sorry, gone? Pretty sure they started there.
L changing to mauga
I like how the majority of the video is 2 streamers talking how much they have to "work" to make "money". Get a grip
WINTON
I hit 4 360 shatters as rein yday. 2 of those were on mercy's!!
So nothing changed?
This is just mad max(the first one) but overwatch
Imagine your main game being so bad that you count the days you’re forced to play before you can switch to literally any other game. Like guys, JUST QUIT OVERWATCH. IT WONT GET BETTER, 6v6 WONT SAVE IT, AND BLIZZARD IS DEAD. Your viewers and mental will thank you for it.