⚫️ The CLEVER reason Mercedes' 2023 F1 car is black
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Mercedes' 2023 F1 car has been revealed and it's gone back to a black livery like it did in 2020 and '21, after reverting to silver in 2022. But there's a different reason for bringing the black livery back this time, and it's all about car performance...
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Fia will eventually step in to prevent whole grid looking like batmobiles
Please God have it be sooner than later
I am the night, I am vengeance, I am... Pierrrrree Gaasssslyyyyyyyy.
@@ottojablonka "I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS!"
God i hope so
This comment actually killed me lol
Next we’ll have regs on how much of the car needs paint.
I think this would only happen if every single car ended up being black due to the weight. Then it would make sense to increase the weight limit so teams could go back to different color schemes and be unique
Yep
Paint green and grey lines!
Nah they just need to say every part of the car needs to be painted. If you want it black, paint it black
LoL
Thank God Mercedes ended racism with the 2020 car
😂😂😂
Where was it said they ended racism?
2020: it’s time to take action *paints car black*
2022: alright nobody cares
😂😂😂
@Greg Abott virtue signal aur make a stand? things changed, involvement of black people in the sport increased. do not be ignorant.
It's pretty much exactly the reason they became 'the Silver Arrows' in the first place😅
now they become the black arrows because their chassis is black. God forbid they make pink colored chassis next season
Is there any natural pink material? If so I hope it becomes the new material used. It would be fun to see 20 pink cars driving around
@@fireduckz3765 pink gold *exists*
@@ravell.ananta5466 Carbon Fiber Arrow or Carbon Arrow
@@ravell.ananta5466 nah, Force India's become a whole different team now 😂
Multiple teams with mainly black cars is going to make for great commentary… “the lights are out and twenty black cars scream towards turn 1. No idea who’s in the lead here, but whoever they are they’re in a black car…”
The paint should not be included with the weight, what do y’all think
@@vanishone6972wdym should not be included it weights a bit there is no way around that
@@vanishone6972 it's not because of weight restrictions, it's only to gain a slight speed advantage.
@@vanishone6972 vanishone has reinvented gravity.
What I would give to hear the dear Murray Walker (RIP) do a commentary for this season. Would just be hillarious. :D
Next year gonna be a full blacked out grid huh 😂
Black Ferrari...
Ferrari becoming black would be weird.
Except redbull they will never change the livery
Formula Black
F1: BLACKED
The livery is actually two tones black and carbon and i love the subtle contrast of it
Gotta be honest, I couldn't tell on my TV. You got 4K or something?
Looks clean 🔥🥶
I actually love this livery from a history standpoint. Mercedes was called "Silver Arrow" because they didnt use any paint to save weight on their aluminum cars. They basically does the same thing here
@@RalphMouline Never thought of it like that. That is kinda neat
It is the exact opposite for me. The fact that it isnt one solid black drives me insane. Maybe seeing it race will change my opinion
This same logical process is why the silver arrows are silver. Stripping the white racing colors of Germany and leaving the sheet metal bare. This is actually a really cool historical mirror of that.
Black Arrows fits even better now!
I believe Toro himself has said that this story is just a legend.
That isnt even a true story....
@@bill4665 dude, open your eyes. It is today 👀
Facts
Every other team: "lets save some weight on paint"
Mercedes: "let me show you how its done"
But seriously, I like how honest they were on the presentation, Toto admitted himself its for weight reduction and when they were asked about porpoising, they also said "fingers crossed" its not a problem anymore.
Every team : let's win some weight on paint
Mercedes: pff we did this century ago
@@gege3126 so true, i'm pretty new to f1 so I had no idea they earned the name "silver arrows" on similar circumstances
Proposing cannot be replicated in wind tunnel testing so no team really knows if they got a handle on it until they run the cars on track
Red Bull and AT: what’s weight savings?
lmao shit
So glad Mercedes painted their car and ended racism. I couldn’t imagine where this world would be right now if they didn’t 😅
😂😂😂😂
This is very similar to how the silver arrows got there name when they took the paint off a car taking it back to the silver stainless steel
I was gonna say the same thing, it's a great "Easter egg" maybe, for hardcore MB fans they could have done something with the numbers so they could look like the same like the Silver Arrows era to add more details
It was aluminium instead of steel but the rest is correct.
I used to think that, but it's wrong.
Toto said this on the car launch
That must have been the easiest livery design job ever
Redbull livery designers laughin at this comment rn fr
Ah,that was undoubtedly red bull! Copy,paste,done....
We all know Hitler also drove a black Mercedes because he was against racism.
Mercedes was originally silver for the same reason.
....EXACTLY
....HEHE
why?
@@iamajeeeep Not sure if it's real or a legend but the old "silver arrows" many decades ago originated by removing the paint of their (I think white) cars to save some weight.
All of these blacker cars are going to make it much harder to tell who is driving. Red Bull, McLaren, and obv Ferrari are still easy to tell, but the rest have gone too dark.
I think you need glasses or some knowledge...
Helmet colours.
VCARB has done it right, I really like their new livery, it will definitely stand out.
@@JakeM218I thought we were supposed to quit seeing colors to end racism. And why bring Marko into it?
@@joejoe8322 Helmet not Helmut. We see which driver it is based on the colour of their helmet. They’re instantly recognisable.
I was thinking about this before this launch, but now the point has really been driven home, rules need to require teams paint their cars before we have a full grid of bare carbon cars like this
would love too see that though
The upper 3/4 of the car are painted in matte black! It's just hard to see! There is no less paint on this car then it is on the Ferrari!
@@sibstl9569 shut up, that would be dumb, I don't care, I do not want to see 20-22 black cars because then there is no identity or diversity in the paint schemes in correlation to the team or manufacturer
New 2024 rules will be "no unpainted parts of the car" and tbh it gives Mercedes an advantage for the weight limit its not as big as some might think but it all counts up in the end.
It’s not as big as sone might think…
Umm none thinks a little paint is going to make the car that much faster
@@johnnychimpo7539 saving 10kg on paint will yield up to 0.3 seconds faster per lap.
@@johnnychimpo7539 L
@@milkshakemuncher no way it weighs 10kg. They should just focus on building a car good enough that it doesn't matter if its painted or not lol
@@gianniskatsios8033 true, it's more like 6 or 7kg, I used 10kg as an example and a bit of laziness in not wanting to ratio back to the 6 or 7kg.
To be more accurate, at 6kg the laptime would be 0.180 seconds per lap and saving 7kg the car would be 0.210 seconds faster per lap.
Still a handy saving considering they spend millions of dollars in R&D finding every tenth or hundredths of seconds per lap.
So black is the new silver😏 aluminium vs. carbon fibre, feel free to correct me if I misremember
Your right, make the black cooler that it's the same reason they were originally silver.
I can imagine a new technical directive being that cars must have some amount of colour on the cars other than sponsors. Should provide some drama for us next year maybe.
Or a minimum paint weight
I don't think soo, because there is no safety issue. Also it's the f1 that chose all the commercial aspect of the competition, so if any change as to come, it's not from the fia
I was so happy watching the Ferrari racing around the track yesterday, then half way through Leclers lap I had this sudden chill down my spine and the Darth Vadar song started playing.
I knew then.
Huh?
Darth Hamilton cometh
@@andreweedy2765 the 2020 and 2021 the Mercedes was black and was the most dominate car in Formula 1 in recent history.
@@patricksibiya7861 the most dominant is the Rb18
I've just learned that Formula 1 held out a year to help fight racism... the way this guy nonchalantly says it just goes to show how crazy the times have got. The world needs its balls back.
Morgan Freeman told mike wallace, if you want to end racism just quite talking about it. That was back in 2005 and nobody listened.
It's easier to spot now. Other drivers will now have a warning period before getting hit.
"Before the hit it" -G. Russell
Bro said the colour black is easier to spot 💀💀💀
So happy Mercedes solved racism.
No one ever, even them, claimed they did...
Still living rent free in your head.
@@Until_It_Is_DoneWell they did say they were doing it to end racism, then they stopped doung it implying racism was over. Maybe try not to be so easily triggered, have a sense of humor. Take it the way it was intended as a joke.
@@Chris_EELighten up, it's called humor. Try a little in your life, then maybe you won't be so uptight and actually be able to enjoy life. Life's a garden, dig it.
@@joejoe8322 Ok Dr Phil. Thanks for the wise words...😂👍
If this continues I think we actually need a paint weight rule that increases the weight limit if the paints is to little
For what reason? I mean ... There is no safety issue and the fia isn't in charge for the looking of the car
@@gege3126to prevent every car from looking like batmobile next season? 😂😂
Right, that's what F1 needs, unnecessary rules about the fucking paint on a car
@@cunt666 do you want 20 black cars that you can distinguish only by looking at the sponsors?
If you take a look on Pagani cars, the body was made by COLOURED carbon fiber, so would F1 team follow Pagani idea to keep car colourful without sacrificing weight gain
Going back to Mercedes roots, i love it 🥰
Mercedes roots would be white color not black.
nein
mercedes would've been white just like in 2019 Germany
@@beanlentilwhich is true, however it does go back to “Mercedes strips paint from its car for weight savings” roots.
i wonder if they will also crash and went out from f1, like lemans
@@philipbarton3456 i see, thanks
And then everyone mocked Roseberg for removing paint on his helmet
It's not "almost entirely unpainted", is it?
Not all black are unpaited, on the nose you can see carbon-fiber vs black paint
Should be a rule where you must have team colour on atleast 50% of the car
Why? That makes 0 sense
@papiyankee11 no unfair advantage to loss of weight that way, equal cars
“Our team color is now black.”
-Every team
Really like VCARBs livery. It's like screw weight savings we just want to look cool.
That thing clearly has plenty of paint. It's definitely not just exposed carbon Fibre.
Look at the front wing and the nose sides.
@Kyaryi I was being slightly facetious. The top of the car is painted, but carvin fiber has to be sealed, so technically the whole car is coated.
Who's here after George Russell ran a one stop and the paint saving did not help at all
They painted the car black as a ‘statement’ 😂 unbelieveable
We all know they have gone to the black car because they have got some unfinished business with it (Abu Dhabi 2021)
LOL!
100%
Thanks to the 2020 car, the world is a fair place again. Valiant work
Lol
The ignorance
F1 should implement a minimum weight for paint (that you can make up with additional ballast). It's silly having liveries designed around weight saving.
Love Merc.....but I ain’t sure. Gotta say I think Ferrari have smashed it this year both livery and looks wise.
That’s how they got silver in the first place. Way back in the day they had a car over weight so they just sanded all the paint off and ran with bare metal. I believe it was red before that.
What's funny is that it might even set up the trend for other teams eventually.
All the cars being black will give the SkySports english language commentators something other then driver’s changing their helmets to sook about!
Haas, Alfa Romeo & Mclaren already have more blackened out areas
Williams started the trend last year.
In the wise words of Pierre gasly “ once you go black, you don’t go back “
"once you go black you never go back"
it is wild how mercedes always commits fully to every advantage. every team could have came in all black but only mercedes chose to do so. because victory is always most important not aestethics.
Yes save those grams so they can wear their jewelry
no wonder this year almost all team have exposed carbon in their livery
Commenting from 2024 pre season, most of the cars if not all the 5 cars (not Mercedes) released till now are black cars with stickers over them.
This works very well thematically for merchedes too! The original silver cars they raced way back in the day where silver for the exact same reasons these cars are carbon!
They stripped down the paint to the bare aluminium to save weight therefore making the cars silver (aluminium)
It's amazing that such a small weight difference could have a significant impact.
So what I personally think is that there should be a minimum amount of weight via paint to prevent black cars all over the grid, this would also encourage teams to have nice and colorful liveries and would probably boost sales😊
It can be seen also the other way around if you think about it: what if they can't shed weight anywhere else, so they "had" to leave the car more unpainted to try and save is that department. Yes, is a less probable hypothesis, but still possible IMO
ngl I prefer black over silver. although the 2020 livery still looks better with the actual black paint rather than carbon fiber because it's shinier and smoother
It really goes to show just how crazy the performance of these cars are and the measures they have to take when trying to make improvements to these marvelous machines when we're talking about saving weight in the GRAMS. Just recently started watching F1, and introduced it at the same time to my 12 and 8 yr old and my wife, and every one of us really loves the sport! My 8 yr old daughter getting into it was really what surprised me, but it just goes to show how awesome a sport f1 really is! I can't wait till I can afford to take them all to our first live event at either the Texas or Las Vegas tracks, I want to make a whole thing of it and attend the qualifying rounds as well!!
They went in to make a statement, but inadvertently created a masterpiece that they could not back out of... once you go black, you can never go back.
Tell that to hamilton.
I do like how this mirrors why Mercedes originally had to use silver. They needed to save weight to pass inspection so they scraped the red led based paint off the car making the silver arrow.
I wish they’d brings back old colorful livery’s,, even if it shaved a second or two off a lap time
The Interesting part is that the silver color originated form not painting the old Mercedes metal cars to save weight, and now the same story with carbon fiber
I feel like there's gonna be a rule change that mandates so much of the car needs to be painted whether it's black or not
There should be. No one wants to see cars that are just black with a little bit of color
They could have just made the weight limit 2kg heavier to account for the heavier wheels and tyres this year.
FIA must make a rule about the paint and how much can be unpainted. Im not Mercedes fan, but i prefer a more coloreful Formula 1. I love the glossy paint.
Formula 1's essence is innovation and tricking the rule book. Leaving the car unpainted is allowed.
@@kyaryi1 I know, but if you left unpainted almost the entire car, sooner or later someone will have something to say and as a consequence the FIA will intervene.
They did the same on the 50's , they saved about 2 kilos by taking the paint off showing the aluminium body thats where the term " silver arrows" became iconic.
This is also a nod to German heritage in racing, they always left their cars unpainted to save weight while everyone else was using their own color. This is ALSO why Merc gets called the silver arrow because that’s what they’d call them back in the day because of the color of the bare aluminum.
The FIA should not include paint in the total weight of the car. Not sure how they would regulate that, but it would allows more cars to have fun colors once more.
Of course, teams might still want to run black liveries to save weight, but who knows what they’ll do about that
They need to exclude paint from the weight limit- that way the liveries won’t suffer and designers will be allowed as much creativity as possible.
Bare carbon has a rough surface which will lead to drag, thats y paints were used to have a smoother surface and reduce drag.
Not sure how the teams combat that , its a weight vs drag benefit i guess
Black colour F1 looks Fire
without sidepod in the future they will have a problem with overheat, especially race in Singapore and Dubai
it's also a hit back to the past when they didn't paint there original f1 cars and they where complete silver
I don't think many teams will follow this trend, because they might have saved a couple grams here and there in other areas. Obviously they can't get below the minimum weight and a colorful and distinguishable car is much better for marketing.
But an all black grid would be funny.
very interesting information about the new w14 f1 car 🏎 for 2023 season talking about Mercedes AMG design.
Can’t even imagine a black ferrari 🏎️
Not a huge fan of mercedes but a fan of only owning only neutral colored cars, ive always loved recent Mercedes liveries. They always look sleek and modern.
I heard from another video that in the old days the cars were silver, and Mercedes left it unpainted to not add weight. Mercedes ended up getting the nickname "Silver Arrows".
They are capping.
They know it looks absolute rad, so sick.
Pretty ironic. They get called the silver arrows where silver comes from the colour of the panels where the paint was removed to save weight. Now they have to be painted to be silver, and for the same reason, weight saving, silver paint gets removed exposing the black carbon fiber 😅 same operation, opposite results
How is this clever? Every team is increasing the bare carbon fiber black to cut weight?
Ferrari should do a red weave in their carbon 👌🏼 beautiful. I saw red carbon fibre when I worked at the Rolls Royce factory, looks incredible
The race saying Mercedes have once again outsmarted the rest? Naah, that's impossible
“How long will it be before other teams come up with black liveries too?” Oh how this aged
They can just add different carbon weave patterns so that they can keep the distinction between cars
I uh dont know how black helps as a colour in racing cuz black absorbs light so it heats faster than white which reflects light. The race cars may get some heat issues I think.....
Man f1 cars are becoming limousine size. Imo f3 cars size are optimal. Enables overtaking in street circuits like Monaco
It’s not like other teams didn’t know about this, it’s just that they don’t need it.
They were called the Silver arrows because they removed the paint to save weight and the metal underneath was showing. Now they do the same and get a black car.
The silver arrows name is actually kinda related to this as in the earlier days of racing mercedes actually did the same thing to save weight and the car shows the bare metal hence the silver arrows. Maybe black arrows now😅
watch how they wont allow this to anyone else other than Merc like they tried to convince us that the "party qualy buttons" were legal
F1 could allow a certain amount of car weight which must be only used by paint. I’d hate an all black grid where the only discerning difference between the cars is the sponsors
This aged well
Increase minimum weights and require ballast. A field of all bare carbon cars will get very confusing to watch
This must be the problem Merc is having with their car, all that massive weight saving has unbalanced it into a midfield car.
the best Black car ever was the John Player Special Lotus, if you're going black then do it in style.
The Silverarrow had the exact same Reason. Company History Repeats itself^^
take out the sponsor's decals too...make it a pure carbon...now that is beauty....
Like the og silver arrows which were bare aluminum this is the black arrow in bare carbon I like it back to the roots
Bro the driver with the most f1 wins is a black man fym "improving diversity" we got dat shit rn in drivers idk about the teams but lewis is evidence that there is opportunity for people of color to excel in the F1 field
as a mclaren fan, i love how the merc car looks the most
This feels like that old Silver Arrow move
„Aerodynamics are for people who can‘t build engines.“ - Enzo Ferrari
Bold statement but fitting for this particular case.
How much more performance can they actually gain with that? Because I don’t feel the impact is big enough to go as extreme
Kind of ironic that silver color was originally also used to save weight by not using paint
Have you ever tried to ID a black coloured vehicle in the rain very difficult but it’s a nice looking livery regardless.
As a Rb fan the black Merc gives me nightmares
This is realy ironic because when Mercedes got the name of the "silverarrows" it was because they didn't paint their car for weight saving purposes as well but back then the material was still metal so the cars were silver/grey.
How is it that it is just now the f1 teams realized paint adds weight?
it isn't, with the new regs it's been hard to get down to the weight limit