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I like how like half of these are 'we need actual warships.'
Star Fleet: We're peaceful explorers and are totally non-violent
Borg: Sup Nerds?
Star Fleet: We need guns, we need lots and lots of guns
Ben Sisko: I'll have it for you by monday
weldonwin, Starfleet: Never mind the borg haven’t shown up in years.
Dominion: Wassup up diggity dogs?
Starfleet: Wait we take it back.
We want a ship that looks like our usual plate with sticks, but make it feisty please.
I love the Yeager class. I love to think of the nightmare that its engeneering shop had keeping it running. It must have been a true challenge getting all the incompatible components working together with out breaking down or blowing up. What a hero ship that would have made.
That "shot from Golden Eye" has actually be used since silent film days. I can think of at least a couple of episodes of the original "Ducktales" from the mid 1980s that uses it as well.
It's an easy way to film one thing being dropped a moment before another identical-looking thing is launched upwards - can't keep crashing planes or helicopeters (or ducks) while filming.
But it's just lazy and uncreative when you film with disposable CGI starships. Lack of original or authentic effort shows in the shows.
And I can tell you this, as a pilot, that scene in Golden Eye was just as ridiculously fake as the fictional concept of a 100 plus year old derelict starship being able to achieve that maneuver. And I am not just talking about someone climbing aboard a falling out of control airplane. The "lift" angle of attack, speed, etc. of that plane was all over the spectrum. The best bush planes in the world cannot recover from that scenario. But to the untrained pilot, it might seem plausible. lol. I could also go on and on about trivia facts about the jump from the dam that was in fact not from a dam, but I won't. lol.
@@WW-wf8tu Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what that was meant to be about. The PC-6 is a pretty good STOL design, and I'm pretty sure it's Vr is like 50-60KIAS, certainly no need to throw it off a cliff for an extended time for it to fly! And surely once it got airflow over the wings it would pitch up naturally anyway even without pilot input - at least, until the airspeed dropped off and it pitches down again, and so on, and so on. I'm pretty sure that to replicate the film shot, you'd have to be holding full elevator down to stop it pitching up - and even then I reckon it'd overcome that at some point and start pitching anyway.
Random observations.
In universe the Nova class was supposed to be the pathfinder vessel for the Defiant back when the plan was to have a really high warp torpedo boat that would do hit and run salvos, but they changed the entire concept and went for a close range slugger. But since the frame was viable they repurposed it into the Nova class and greatly downgraded the warp core.
And the anti Borg ships that debuted in First Contact took some design cues from the Defiant in that they didn't have nacelles out on long pylons unsupported and vulnerable.
Most had them connected to the primary hull in some way or at least partially obscured by the primary hull.
The idea was that since there was going to be a new Enterprise, they didn't want to confuse the audience by having another new ship with the traditional saucer, secondary hull and nacelles on pylons look.
The in universe explanation was that Starfleet was going to a new design paradigm of much tougher and more "muscular" ships.
And the plan was that after Nemesis, when they had planned on continuing with the current timeline they were going to show Starfleet going to internal bridges and not having the long willowy exposed ships.
But the ship designers had no say in the studio hiring a director who didn't even know or like Star Trek to direct Nemesis and killl the franchise for a while.
But Star Trek online (which came much later) went back to mostly standard designs with just new detailing and styling.
As for *Seven of Nine,* and her costume: a little trivia, her costume almost killed her!
The original full Borg suit she wore (before she was deBorged) cut off the blood flow to her carotid artery when she turned her head. She immediately passed out and a alert film crewman turned her head straight and restored blood flow to her brain.
As well her catsuit required 20 minutes to take off or put on - with help, so to avoid toilet breaks she just didn't drink much.
I wonder if she made a clause about no catsuit for "Picard"?
And finally when first screening Voyager, the local TV affiliate was a year behind, so my mates and I would hire the tapes [from a video shop, a lot of you may have read about them in 'remember 90's kids memes'] as soon as they came out.
Well we were the second or third ones to hire Scorpion part 2, and the scene where Seven is revealed from behind in her slinky new outfit was hard to watch …
I don't mean that as euphemism, the tape at that precise scene had lines and was crinkly because it had been held on pause for so long it had caused physical damage - on a video tape that had been released a few days earlier.
This was a primitive time, before internet porn.
Also, out of universe, the Nova began as an early Defiant concept, before they wanted something more distinctive...
7:30
So basically, they said that these ships were slapped together on a shoestring budget and tight schedule...
to justify slapping ships together on a shoestring budget and a tight schedule.
Yes
Wait a minute, if the ball section of the Daedalus class could actually separate, would that make them Spaceballs?
Spaceballs the lunch box, spaceballs the t-shirt, spaceballs the flame thrower, spaceballs the spaceship...
@@sheevone4359 My personal favorite part:
_Dark Helmet: "What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?"
Col Sandurz: "Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now."
DH: "What happened to then?"
CS: "We passed it."
DH: "When?"
CS: "Just now. We're at 'now' now."
DH: "Go back to then."
CS: "When?"
DH: "Now."
CS: "Now?"
DH: "Now!"
CS: "We can't."
DH: "Why?"
CS: "We missed it."
DH: "When?"
CS: "Just now."
DH: "When will 'then' be now?"
CS: "Soon!"_
@@MaskedGEEK yeah I love that scene. I also like when colonel Sandurz says: "... And this is our Major Asshole.
And dark helmet responds: " Another asshole? How many assholes have we here?"
Everybody: "We all are!"
DH: "I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes."
@@sheevone4359 Keep firing, assholes.
Funny
I love the witty banter and humor that you guys have.
There's nothing wrong with dedicated medical ships like the Olympic-class, you just need to keep them out of harm's way.
@Sean Wilkinson Very practical!If it was Star Wars, it would just be a generic ship but with a paint job like a red stripe. No effort or depth to design a unique medical ship. In the movies the Rebellion's medical ship was a repurposed Nebulon B frigate.
Sean Wilkinson Sure, the spherical design looks peaceful, but if you’re responding to a medical emergency in the middle of a Romulan battle, I don’t think it’ll make you less likely to be hit...
@@loganiushere That's why these ships would never be found in the middle of a Romulan battle, lol.
The sphere might accommodate omnidirectional transporter beams or even maximized surface for medical shuttle bays with minimized paths to inner medical wards. A big hospital isn't much use without an ambulance fleet.
@Sean Wilkinson love it!
I know them all!
Now I feel kinda like a nerd...😔
Knew almost all of them but I'd forgotten about the Raven. Though to be honest it seems sorta like a runabout class or predecessor or something like that based on it's general size and look
@@MrGoesBoom my guess is that it' s more like a small freighter, kinda bigger than a runabout or a yellowston, but not as big as a normal FCA o Bolian model
the medical frigate should have been a Nebulon-B LOL.
Freedom-class? USS Franklin?
I thought the Franklin was unique?
And the Freedom-class is a ONE engined ship from the TNG era, seen in "Best of Both Worlds..."
Take pride in your nerdom. 🤓
The humor and editing in this one is top-notch.
A little known fact is that the Bonsai tree was so overpowered that in order to keep the episode (and whole Star Trek franchise) from being finished in a few minutes they had to kill it off in what was arguably the most deus ex machina moment in the show.
"BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS BAD ASS? this Bonsai tree on the Olympic class" ROFLMAO! I fell out. XD
It speaks to Beverly's patience. I mean, it REALLY does. Especially with JL. lol
When I realized I know all of these ships, I realized just how much of a nerd I am lol
most were in star trek armada lol
@@paulus121212 shut up nerd
@@notfunny9622 wow tht harsh I'm a nerd because I played trek games and knew stuff
@@notfunny9622 yea
@@notfunny9622 he or she is right
Before 7 of 9: "Voyager" rating is 5 out of ten
After: "Voyager" Rating is 10 out of ten.
theyodanesss 🤣🤣
The Raven was much larger than a runabout, the MSD even has a small shuttlebay at the back.
Even a basic RV can tow a Kia Sportage.
Which existed in 1997 when The Gift first mentioned the Raven.
@@alecsandyr old comment I know, but the MSD shows 4 decks (possibly 5)
Akira class is my favorite ever sense I got Star Trek Armada so long ago lol
It was also on star trek bridge commander love that ship so much fun
@@chriswatson645 The name of the ship was a nice call to War of the Worlds.
Thanks for this wonderful round-up on the lesser-known Star Trek vessels. My favorite is USS Defiant, which turned the tide of the Dominion War, and is, in general a bad-ass little ship - accommodations are closer to a WW2 destroyer, and a very warlike craft.
Their Akira class is one of my favorite ships in the Star Trek series when I first saw in the Battle of wolf 359 I instantly fell in love with it I literally have a model of it on my desk that I've had for years now
I love Nova class ever since I first seen it in Voyager it has become my favorite
This video has brought a whole new meaning to “Attack those Federation starships”
The ball section could be a way of showing other races "this isn't a battle ship don't attack"
I'm sure ben yells BONSAI!!! Everytime he see a Olympic class blow up
The sphere section on the Olympic class makes sense if you consider that a sphere is the optimal shape for enclosing a volume with a minimum of surface area. Perhaps since it’s a medical ship, the idea is extra radiation shielding for vulnerable patients?
Or simply the maximum volume possible for bed space, operating rooms, and other medical equipment.
Minimum amounts of armor material and shield energy to fully encase the main hull.
But maximum internal volume? The usual horizontally-layered arrangement with tiny floorspace in topmost/bottommost decks? An onion-layered or segmented arrangement with tons of crazy omnidirectional turbolift shafts/intersections?
Yes. Seven of Nine definitely kept my attention on Star Trek: Voyager.
Dude, the James Bond was a woman line had me on the floor laughing. Good job!
You say it's silly, but one of my goals in STO has always been to get one of the Olympic class refits.
I believe, the Olympic class is an homage to the very first sketches of the TOS Enterprise, which had a sphere in place of the saucer section.
Left it to late for the trailer analysis, didn't you ?
Or is Alan still locked away furiously going through it frame by frame looking for clues while running sound wave comparisons to see if that is Palpatine.
Please let Alan stay locked away. This guy has such a slurred pronounciation he should undergo propper speaking lessons so his pronounciation is no longer like mumble jumble.
Jeffrey's Tubes actually do go into the warp nacelles. Archer built an auxiliary navigation bridge inside one to shield the crew from a radiation nebula.
I gotta watch more Enterprise
Awww, how can you not make a connection between the old Daedalus class and the Olympic class?
Anyone who studied the old Starfleet Starship Recognition Chart respected the Olympic class for being a callback to the Daedalus.
And respected the Vengeance as a Dreadnought, on immediate sight. My boyfriend thought I was crazy when I screamed in the theater when nobody else did.
The crew of the Oberth Class science vessel probably got from the top section to the secondary hull section by using turbo lifts that take people through the nacelle pylons connecting the top and bottom sections of the ship together, Turbo Lifts can move in all directions so it is entirely possible.
A whole section on a space Winnebago and nary a mention of Lone Star and Barf from Spaceballs?
Careful, heretic...
Not a real space Winnebago, just a stunt double.
This makes me want to pick up Star Trek Online again
You had me at “this bonsai tree...”
The Norway-Class is my bane. I’ve been trying to build a model of it for years, but in order to scale it, it just has to be oh so long with those blasted nacelle things on the aft.
Did you get the Eaglemoss model, too?
It looks so fragile, like it could be accidentally dismembered with a deflector dish or turning too quickly, that might complicate a model too?
I had always hated the design of the Olympic class in Star Trek... until I flew one in Star Trek Online, and now I love the look of it! Seeing it in 3D worked for some reason.
I didn't know there is actually an Olympic class ship that big ball can be a hospital section i thought that makes sense instead of square or rectangle shapes like most haspital
I love how you are one of the few trek channles that doesnt suck up to the franchise and are willing to say what everyone is thinking...that Discovery is crap.
The Norway class is one of my favorite designs and it deserves way more screentime than it got
Nice to listen to someone so easy to understand.
My favorite little known ship is actually the Cheyenne-class. You only see it once, as far as I know. When the Enterprise passes by the debris field after the battle of Wolf 359, one of the destroyed ships is a Cheyenne-class. I like this ship because the original studio model was actually designed from two scaled-down Galaxy -class model kits (saucer, "necks" and pylons) and four painted marker pens as nacelles. No clue why they didn't just use the nacelles from the kits as well - you couldn't really tell from the distance anyway. But hey.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh I'm laughing so hard a bowling ball. That animation was epic. Well done
The Borg star starts to assembly them and they tell her to run, you're on a small Starship where you going to run, to there's no way to run
And way to make sure they notice her!
Freedom Class was also a single nacelle design from the TNG Era.
Very true.
hey if the person that thought you needed terminal velocity to take a ship off in atmosphere of course he's going to have problems counting how many nacelles are actually on the ship
3:39...😂😂😂 you old dog, Jean Luc!😎
I had a character in star trek online flew an Olympic, the only reason was so I could do a history joke and call it the Titanic (the actual Titanic was an Olympic class ocean liner).
Oh, the Nova class is more armored then an Oberth class! I can finally take more than one shot from a hand phaser without exploding!
Wow!
Those ships are amazing!
...Even the Olympic class!
...For scanning or something!
I like Olympic class. Some ships are not made for battle or war and if it needs some strong protector it will travel with some war ship.
Saber class. Give me a little ship with a great big gun.
Defiant, considering it nearly blew itself to bits during live fire trials.
Best I can give ya, don't know much about the Saber class TBH lol. (Used to be able to quote off every spec of both Enterprise D & E though..XD)
Starfleet Design Tech: "Back in the 20th Century, the 'United States' commissioned a close-air-support craft called an ... 'A-10 Warthog'. Basically they designed the entire airframe around a multibarrel rotating cannon. I .. think we can do that here."
So a paris class frigate
9:33 Finally, someone calls it out!
The ship has two separate crews. Officer elite and noble scientists on top, lowly menial peons and redshirts on bottom. The Bolian galley slaves send food to the bridge with miniature cargo shuttles.
P, Settle down there, Mark Twain.
Long ago in a book store far away, in a time before internet, cellphones, google, or youtube I picked up a book called “The Making of Star Trek”. It was the late seventies and from this ancient tome I learned that the Enterprise had many concept drawings made before the Constitution class that we know and love came about. The principle runner up to what we know was a peculiar vessel with warp nacelles but a giant, round ball-section instead of a saucer- section. That is almost what we got.
8:36 That’s a curry class with excelsior/centaur class nacelles
Bit of trivia, the Steamrunner was originally going to be called the Streamrunner, but the r was dropped and became Steamrunner.
The r was dropped accidentally. They liked it because it sounded cool and steampunk and they kept it. Yes, the Steamrunner is one of my favourites.
Steamrunner & Norway are my favorite TNG era ships. Nice to finally see them get some love!
The boulingball gag, would be a crumbleling fireball -getting smaller as it tumbled along. LOL
Would be a shotput. Big metal ball which embeds itself solidly in the ground.
No Discovery? Instant LIKE.
To be that guy … the NX Enterprise was one of the first Starfleet ship fitted with transporters, and were used very sparingly as they weren't trusted.
That a more primitive shipv such as the Freedom class would have them seems a bit …
OMG A continuity error in Star Trek, say it isn't so.
They were used sparingly for crew. I thought their use for cargo was common.
The transporter was cargo rated. Scotty had to adjust the system for live personnel.
@@barrybend7189 And in reality it would kill whatever it transports and rebuilds a new "person" who thinks they are the original at the other end. Just imagine every time anyone beams anywhere in Star Trek they are committing suicide. Bones was the only one who realized it I guess, which must've been why he hated transporters.
It’s also probably been refitted since launch as it’s mentioned Krall is basically a MACO who was put in command after the MACOS were rolled into Starfleet following the forming of the Federation (which is why he’s angry apparently) but I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the ship could have been refitted and a better transporter system added after it proved usefull on the Enterprise.
Yeah i thought the implication was that transporters have been around for decades for use with cargo, and it’s not necessarily that the Enterprise’s was the first safe enough to use on people, it’s just that people were so squicked from horror stories from early transporter experiments that it took a ridiculously redundant variant on the Enterprise before they were deemed people safe.
Plus Scotty souped up the one on the Frankin, so maybe it wasn’t people safe before
My favourite is definetly Nova Class! In Equinox they said that the Equinox has little weapons, but they are actually as strong as Voyager's. And it looks perfect. And I like the idea that it replaces the Oberth Class. And...
Yeah maybe. That's why I'm confused about how "wEaK" Equinox' weapons are.
Seven of Nine didn't just improve the ratings, she led to the *Presidency of Barack Obama…* seriously. Jeri Ryan spent a long time away from her husband because of the role, which was interstate. And her marriage suffered due to that, and ended in 1999, so what?
Jeri Ryan's by then ex-husband, Jack Ryan (not that one) was running for Senator for the GOP in Illinois in 2004, when confidential details of their divorce settlement were released by a judge after several newspapers sued for them.
The details released included that Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had wanted her to _perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York City, New Orleans, and Paris,_ although no sex occurred. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling.
This didn't help with Jack's Republican campaign (remember this is pre Trump) and he withdrew, allowing his opponent Barrack Obama to score a upset win. Which then led to ….
And then …
So if course now we have …
And all because Voyager was suffering in ratings and apparently B'Elanna Torres in a singlet top occasionally (and that swimsuit and the sonic shower once) and possessed Kes being lesbian in a leather jumpsuit weren't enough to sex up the ratings (a mirror universe DS9 trick).
So if they had better writing early on they wouldn't have needed to bring in Seven of Fine, and the 2008 election would have gone differently.
When you play cause and effect we end up in a very different timeline.
Temporal Agents take note.
That is so deep
Wait..... Jack Ryan was Tom Cruise????? Or, did you mean Tom Clancy?
@@crazyeyez1502 what do you mean? I'm looking at my [edited] comment and can see no mention of Cruise 😜.
Yep I got Ryan and Reacher mixed up … take your 👍
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This fookin channel makes even bloody star trek interesting...
Fook you
Ah, you missed the better joke about the "Olympic" Class. Not a Bowling Ball, but the Rock Ball that chases Indiana Jones in "Raiders of the Lost Ark". Now THAT'S a shot worth animating, Indy running from an Olympic Primary Hull rolling down on him.
When a Olympic class get destroyed
Other Olympic class captains: more trees
The freedom class is one of my favorite designs.
3:19 :D The captains face is hilarious, no fear, just annoyance. "How did I get here?"
Thank you for the way you do videos
Just found your channel and I love it ...
I love the Wells class, it's a new and futuristic design which really transmits the flair of the 29th century.
Amazing story about your child's birth! Thank you for sharing! Great Video!
That was AWSOME!
The flat saucer of the freedom class kinda act like aerodynamics wings, so once they would’ve reach terminal velocity it would pull up and activate stabilizers which would provide lift
Yes! I passed the test knowing the ships
Now I can finally get promoted to Lt.
Fun episode. I dig the Nova & Wells class ships. Neat designs.
I like the Olympic class. Just needs a redesign for the nacelles.
There were actually some experiments in the 50s and 60s using round shaped aircraft. They did find that a round body COULD generate lift. It's plausible but a lot of that would depend on things we know nothing about; e.g. the aero dynamic qualities of that particular shape on that particular planet
Not bad, but I take issue with the inclusion of the Akira and Saber classes. They were so prominent in the later seasons of DS9 that even casual viewers would recognize them, if not know their backstories. Steamrunner class gets a pass, as it was less prominent, and Norway is fine, as the lost the model after First Contact, making that the only appearance of the design (outside of a silhouette in one VOY episode).
Akira class! Hoorah!
Great video, got a subscription here.
Everyone takes the mickey out of the Olympic class ball hull BUT the most efficient shape (volume/surface area) is a sphere so as a medical frigate this layout provides MASSIVELY more floor area than a saucer section. This makes sense to use as it allows for so many more beds, operating rooms, convalescence areas, Physiotherapy suites etc:
Stop hating on the Daedalus and show it some love.
This was like a list of awesome ships in star trek attack wing. Nova class is so handy.
Wells Class is my favorite. The Tier 6 version of that ship on Star Trek Online is downright gorgeous.
I love the jabs at the new trek, you sir are my kind of guy u get a subscribe and the like.
Fun Fact - once you watch this video, these ships become a little more known
Raven class ship was not the same size as a runabout vessel. The Raven class was a 5 deck deep space, extended period exploration ship with a shuttle bay of it's own. The runabout, generally shown as the Danube class vessel, was a single deck warp capable ship that was bigger than a shuttle, wiith small crew compartments, but significantly smaller than a starship.
The Franklin was Freedom-class and could do Warp 4!!?? Pffft... the other Freedom could do Warp 9 with only one nacelle!!
The Franklin class ship that was featured in the star trek film also has serious canon conflicts iirc
I always wondered what that intrepid class variant was all about. You can see it orbiting around DS9 in the background in a ton of scenes showing the station.
There is one thing I need to correct you on. The Akira class escort did not have a fighter bay. It was supposed to. It was in the original design specs, but officially, by the Canon timeline, it was rushed into production because of the Dominion war and the threat of the Borg, and in being rushed, was produced without the fighter bay, and thus was not the carrier it was originally planned to be. And Star Trek online, the ship that the Akira was supposed to be ends up being the next generation in that ship line, and is called the armitage class.
Great video. Funniest one yet for this channel!
The "Akira" class is an anime reference. There were quite a few otaku in the TNG staff to easter egg a reference. (Anime was not mainstream in the 80s and 90s. Most subtitling was done by fan groups. It was not uncommon to find Hollywood types in the same dark video room of a science fiction convention watching the Dirty Pair or uncut Space Battleship Yamato.)
I LOVED the Pasteur from All Good Things. Lamest? It’s gorgeous. And it’s not the same old same old. AND it harkens to quite a few sci-fi designs with a spherical main hull in front of a longer secondary.
To me the wells class ship looks a lot like the ship in Genes last attempted show Andromeda.
Doubt Gene Roddenberry really had much to do with the show since it aired years after his death. Andromeda and it's predecessor Earth: Final Conflict, had Roddenberry's name slapped on to make it more viable to sell to Roddenberry's Star Trek fanbase. Both shows felt like somebodies hand rummaging around in your pocket for your wallet while someone called you, Bro and claiming they were you best friend.
I knew literally all of them
Now I know why my brother calls me sad ☹️
FYI, the Olympic class was directly based on an early Enterprise concept / design for the original series.
And 22nd-century NX-class was directly based on the "experimental new approach" concept/design of 24th-century Akira-class.
(As was the canon-bending 22nd-century Franklin-class which set new warp records a decade after ENT surpassed them.)
@@pwnmeisterage Alternate universe, mid you. I'm pretty sure the timelines were diverging even before 'the Kelvin Incident'.
@@pwnmeisterage Though it should also be said, much as I love Trek, internal consistency was NEVER its strongest point. :)
In past decades they were forced to use physical models. Costly to build, modify, store and transport between filming.
But now good CGI is cheap and abundant, licensees (like STO) and fandom create/restore endless new starship models of quality.
So I think we'll see a lot of nice new starships in future Trek. Unless they deliberately "tribute" old designs. Assuming, of course, the Trek franchise isn't burned to ruin.
wait wait... isn't there already another ship named The Freedom Class?
I think so.
I have the model, yeah. Also, the USS Concorde, and maybe the USS Liberator too.
Presumably, like with two Intrepid-classes, pre Federation ships can reuse names for classes...
not to be confused with kitt bashing "you smell like hassle hoff"
I would have liked to have seen more of the Norway class. Apparently the computer files that contained the CGI models got corrupted.
Sadly so. Like how they dropped the Ambassador-class model too... ) :
I love this guy: "We're not going to show you anything from Star Trek: Discovery" WHILE SHOWING A CLIP FROM THE SECOND EPISODE IN THE ENTIRE SERIES.
...Brilliant.
What a horrible show
The Freedom-class was actually built after the NX-01 Enterprise, not before. Its registry was NX-326, and if we speculate that each new hull type is another 100 on the registry lineage, this would basically be a fourth-generation NX-class (which we assume would have been later named Enterprise-class). "First ship to reach Warp 4" is a continuity flub, considering Warp 4 was treated as the maximum velocity of the Enterprise in Star Trek (2009), so if in the movie timeline if they were to state the Franklin as having a warp factor any higher, it would throw things even further out of whack. So we can assume that Warp 4 was of a different/new warp scale being used in the Kelvin Timeline
The determining factor of the Freedom class being newer (not older) than the NX was the fact that its entry into service was when Starfleet was formed and MACO was disbanded (or I prefer to think as being absorbed into Starfleet, rather than being flat-out dissolved). the NX-100 and 200 line may have been larger more battle-focused ships during the Earth-Romulan conflict, the 300 line subsequently being of the Federation's new directive to explore rather than fight. So they could build more smaller ships to explore a wider range more quickly. We can also speculate on the original warp scale, the Franklin could reach Warp 6 (as the NX-100's and 200's likely still had Henry Archer's Warp 5 design). Warp 7 of course being the standard closer to the 23rd Century (in TOS timeline).
I love how the NX is pretty much an upside down Akira
It's "little-known ships" not "little known ships". The way you wrote it means that the ships are known, and little.
To continue grammar-nerdlyism, the second quoted phrase should be "little, known ships". Please correct me, because it's fun.
@@mortmain5411 Doesn't the period go inside the quotes? This is for both of you....