Firemangan like seriously does this dude not realize that Germany struggled because of oil shortages and tough territory to fight in while the USSR prevailed because of unlimited manpower and a metric load of support.
@@blenterbl Germany also couldnt replace their losses like the soviets could, and couldnt move their divisions and resources that easily due to them still using millions of horsers for transportation
More resources and industry than all of North America. Receiving an arsenal of thermonuclear warheads from a post-apocalyptic future would have sufficed.
@@firemangan2731 They would only be effective if Germany was effective; even as a lesser army -there is strength in combined numbers, and especially in purpose when you're united with more powerful allies.
@@cjquirk5735 Yeah, but the problem is, Italy is very reliant to the resources, equipment and man power of of the Wermacht through out the course of their time in the war, which also drained the Wermacht of its own energey for its war in the western front and especially the eastern front. Italy’s military commanders in ww2 are nothing more than sell outs who were hired by Mussolini just because they have loyalty to his party, especially Italy at the time isn’t as mich industrialized and modern enough to fight in a war at the capacity of WW2 and they seem to be more effective on a war that is like WW1.
@Joseph VanSickle Italy’s fascist party dint have anti-semitism nor does Mussolini himself, there were plenty of jews in his party. Mussolini only wanted to spread Italian culture and assimilate other ethnicites to his empire, he only put the racial laws in place because of being an ally of Hitler, obviously Mussolini thought it was all bullshit but had to play along.
@@firemangan2731 yes in fact i have seen a documentary about Mussolini that said his cook was a Jew and when Hitler came to Mussolini's house the dux hid him from Adolf
@TheRisingSun The US had 22 aircraft carriers. It took as little as 14 months to make a aircraft carrier. Its also important to recognize that Japan was attempting to conquer and hold onto a ton of land and people. The amount ofl rescources and men it would take to garrison this land is insane. They were fighting a power that had significantly more land, more people, more industry, and more rescources. They would have lost no matter what happened at midway.
@@brivdon6746 well yes but if the Japanese won Midway the Us would just surrender the Us is so Close to surrendering but Midway was won by the Us if Japan won Midway the Us Navy could be shattered but because of The Japanese Lacking Oil the Americans took Advantage
Mexico’s perspective of the War: The Axis invade North America: *Panik* The Axis don’t invade you: *Kalm* The Axis offer to buy some land from you: *Stonks*
Was really interested to see if they would become apart of the Axis to regain lost territory like all the previous axis members besides the main powers lol. Though I guess since lebensraum was basically a rip off of manifest destiny they viewed the US as carrying these righteous claims.
@@tacosdecabeza Considering this comment, probably stayed Mexico and neutral so as to not get owned if they were in Allies 2.0. Though sadly did not regain back their old states.
@@Anonymus18 didnt think it failed agaisnt the biggest superpower aka germany, also id think it failed in a chinese civil war, id think it failed in ex yugoslavia lol
Basically to prevent a situation like in our timeline where the US and Soviets were able to confront each other and escalate tensions, allowing the areas to be war torn, frontier states was I guess a good enough trade off
@@soyentak5076 Garner is a conservative democrat unlike Roosevelt, he would’ve never enacted the new deal and is a strong advocate of American isolationism, so had Garner been president America would be different from the one under Roosevelt but I can see Man in the high castle’s portrayal of what America would’ve been from the 30s to WW2 had FDR been assassinated greatly exaggerated.
@@firemangan5024 I think what really would have changed things is if Hitler never attempted to invade the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 with Operation Barbarossa. Had the Eastern Front never happened, the Axis might have won ww2
@How To Solve Yeah but the new deal did the lay the foundations to the US’s economic recovery especially the later policies that were made by the Roosevelt administration.
@@Tacoman542 Yes thank goodness we are Israel's bitch in our timeline 😂 London isn't even White and the country is ruled by some punjab So much winning!🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇳🇷🇺🏳️🌈✡️
@@Tacoman542 There was a real assassination attempt on FDR. On February 15, 1933, a Italian imigrant named Giuseppe Zangara did try to kill FDR. Luckily the attempt failed
@@NariVakera that's why nobody likes you, as if anyone had to ask to say anything... Bold to assume he actually has to ask YOU in the first place, know your place man.
While the entire premise for the events of the book actually happening is absurd, your analysis of how this happens makes a lot of sense. For the sake of sticking to the storyline, a lot of factors are to be ignored but the situation faced by countries before 1940 may make it possible for a slightly smaller version of such events to happen. Overall, great video. Kudos!
His video is pretty good, my one complaint is Chile being an ally member. They had good relations with Germany, and though they did join the war later as an Ally member, it was after Germany surrendered and Japan was the last member of the axis.
Another really absurd thing I noticed is that the world was shown to be less modernize than today which shouldn't be true because Germany was more advanced
The problem with "the Axis wins WW2" scenarios is that they require a long series of wildly improbable events. The events in this video are not only improbable they are impossible. The whole US Navy was not at Pearl Harbor on December 7th 1941. Not even the whole Pacific Fleet was at Pearl Harbor.
Man in the High Castle took place in an another Earth from another universe that is similar to ours but slight differences in its events from ours in our Earth, some idiot in the US government could’ve ordered the entire navy to Pearl Harbor for whatever reason.
@@firemangan2731 In the alternative history fiction community that is known as "alien space bats". or ASB for short. If you need alien space bats to show up for your story to work, it doesn't.
@@firemangan2731 Only the Navy is massive, and Pearl Harbor does not have the capacity to house it all. Nor is it possible to supply such a massive force in one location.
@@firemangan2731 The United States Navy on December 7 1941, Consisted of 902 Commissioned Vessels. There were 345
Principal Combat Vessels, consisting of Aircraft Carriers 7 + 1 Escort Carrier Battleships 17 Heavy Cruisers 18 Light Cruisers 19 Destroyers 171 Submarines 112 It's impossible to fit all of them in Pearl Harbor so it's impossible for the Japanese Navy to sink everything in one attack.
@@lawrencehakiwai That ammount of Naval vessels and many other military equipment was the result of FDR rebuilding and preparing the United States for war which was inevitable and also to supplie the British in their fight against Germany that would benifit the US financially and economically. FDR got JFK’d in Man in the high castle which he was followed by two other presidents who were just 2 extra Hoovers and mostly dint do anything aside from making their own “New deal” policy which both ended up as failures and kept the United States at midst of the depression to which there still wouldn’t be a Lend lease act that would help the Soviets and the UK to fight on, yes they will last a very long time but they will eventually drain their supplies and reasources fighting the Nazis. Hitler in Man in the High castle seemed to have more intelligence than our Hitler, to which he might never thought nuclear power as “jewish science” and could’ve called up Einstien for his nuclear program (to which our Hitler would obviously never do) to secure chances of victory.
Even if the US lost 3 entire Pacific fleets, their combined industrial and economic might was such comparatively speaking, that they could have been easily rebuilt before Japan even touched the mainland. We've never even approached a scenario where the USA entered "total mobilisation". The Man in the High Castle is a nice fictional series but very improbable. The North African theater was unsalvageable even with Rommel leading it, that should tell you something. Admiral Yamamoto said it best: "We have 6 months." He was probably the only man who truly knew what he was talking about in regards to the Axis view of America. Your video was interesting to watch though, thumbs up for the great work.
There is no way they could have rebuilt multiple fleets in the time it would take Japan to sail across the Pacific should such losses be suffered. Where do you buy your weed lol
@@brettvogel8418 You seem to think that the lack of a fleet would make this a road trip for Japan. Think again. There would have been many important strategic bases to take along the way, most notably Guam and Midway. Japan was over extended already and suffering from a desperate lack of crude oil from prolonged US embargo. That was the whole reason for the Pearl Harbor "gamble" in the first place. Taking into account it's own losses, the need for repairs... taking these, taking Hawaii etc. would not have been that easy. The main point to remember is that the US could replace their losses fairly easy and somewhat quickly. Japan could not. It lacked oil, it lacked steel and coal, etc. all which America had in abundance. It's industry could simply not compete. I can't link sources here, youtube doesn't like links sadly, but the by the end of the war, the US could produce a carrier every month or so. It owned 70% of the world tonnage in fleet capacity and about 50% (yes, 50) of the industrial capacity of the entire planet at the time. Each defeat would have ramped up war support considerably among the American public. It would no longer be perceived as a "foreign" conflict but a fight for survival at that point. Japan simply never had any hope to invade the continental United States. Even their most optimistic previsions simply seeked to inflict enough casualties to discourage the american public from supporting further interventions abroad and seek a negotiated settlement. Me thinks you've been playing too much HOI4 if you think it would have been that quick and easy.
@@robertbastiencote4284 sounds to me those problems would be solved by taking out 3 fleets man. You're acting like that wouldn't be a devestating loss.
@@brettvogel8418 Don't get me wrong, it would be. Just not a crippling one. I think you are undervaluating one factor: I didn't specify what state the Japanese fleet would be in after those 3 battles. Even with some kind of miracle scenario, I don't see it as being combat worthy after those engagements. Those deficiencies I mentionned would affect repair capacity as well. More repairs mean more time for the US to recover. Besides even if all the stars aligned and a litteral divine wind took down those fleets for them, no Japanese admiral would just rush to the mainland trying to invade a country of a 130 million people with at least 6 times it's own industrial capacity while leaving pockets of resistance behind that could threaten it's own supply lines. It would be suicide. It was never their objective in the first place anyway. I mean even with the situation reversed, complete mastery of the sea and air dominance, 2 nuclear bombs were dropped instead of attempting to invade. That should tell you something about the difficulty and complexity of launching such an operation sucessfully.
@MarkTheFox Sure, if it were a completely different scenario where they weren't as aggressive then yeah they would've stood a better chance, still not likely but more than 0. But here in reality they were always going to be stretched too thin for their lebensraum plans
The music you chose for the background audio for this vid is absolutely PERFECT!!! I cannot explain it, but the sort of "hollow desolation" and strange sadness to the music perfectly encapsulates the feelings that such an alternate world/timeline would invoke if one were there!
The basic fallacy about this series is that it's based on a false premise: that the Nazis and Japanese desired and had the means to conquer the world. The Nazis did not think in Geo-political terms but Eurocentrically. Hitler thought in World War One terms, seeing the conquest of France and Russia as his ultimate war aims. The Nazis had no workable plan for even invading England and put no real energy into it. Nor did they have a navy capable of crossing the Atlantic against an America with three times their industrial plant. Hitler feared America. Similarly the Japanese limited their war aims to co-opting southeast Asia and China into their Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. They had no wish to go after America and could not support a cross-Pacific invasion of America with their minuscule industrial plant, barely 10% of America's. World conquest by the Nazis and Japan was simply not possible given the political-economy of their nations. But it's a nice and entertaining fantasy, which is what Hollywood is all about.
I agree Nazi germany wont give 2 fucks about africa middle east and western europe Hitler main goal HIS GRAND PLAN IS NON OTHER THAN EASTERN EUROPE Same case to japan Japan only wants Asia and dont give 2 fucks about Europe africa and America
Maybe the Nazis invade America just to make they "shut up"/not intervent their Geo-political in Europe and the Japanese maybe want to fully control of Pacific like the Roman empire does which is Japanese make Pacific is their "lake" and nobody can't (ALSO) intervent their Geo-political in the asia and Pacific ocean and that reason the Germans are not anexed big part of North America, the Japanese maybe anexed big chunks in USA Canada and Alaska for make their Geo-political in Asia and the Pacific ocean still "stabilize" in their control
For the last part Mexico isn't neutral they eventually joining the allies in ww2 I know maybe they declared war in the closing part of Germans defeat but yeah it's just a film a fantasy
As much as military history (both alternate and real) fascinates me, this video made me depressed. But then it made me realize, after watching "Man in the high castle" TV series, just how great full we should all be for our freedom and that the events depicted here never happened and the Allies won world war two. I'm sorry I need a moment.
I find the assertion that the RAF would lose the Battle of Britain due to lack of support from the United States a bit strange, would the lack of 100 Octane fuel suddenly give the Luftwaffe such a massive advantage?
Where do you think the Brits got their rubber from for their planes? US fleet destroyed -> Japan takes all the rubber -> no planes for Britain -> Britain loses air war
@@ingratus8160 Since the Battle of Britain was completed over a year before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour and Japan's subsequent entry into the war how would that have affected the result of the Battle of Britain?
Both the Battle of Britain and the battle of El Alamein were won by Britain and her Empire alone without help from the US. They were using US tanks in Nth Africa but that's about the only help they got from the US.
@@kiwitrainguy Got to disagree with you on that, the RAF supporting the Army in North Africa used large numbers of U.S. supplied aircraft, remember the battle took place after the Lend-Lease Act came into effect, such as the Martin Maryland and Baltimore bombers and P-40 fighters.
One thing to keep in mind is that in the series, Hitler had films from various alternate realities (not just "ours"), letting him see what choices resulted in losses and which in victories. The only way this really works, however, is if he also passed some of that knowledge onto Japan.
Ireland taking Northern Ireland seems very unlikely to me given the state of its military, I find it more likely that as the British start to get more desperate they would temporarily annex Ireland as they did with Iceland to prevent the axis from taking it. But would still ultimately lose due to being constantly bombarded and blockaded.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 I doubt it, Britain had a plan to invade Ireland during WW2, as soon as it became clear Ireland would join Germany then Britain would invade Ireland. Also, take into fact that the Royal Navy would cut off any German supplies to Ireland.
definitely look into the history between Germany and Ireland post ww1 and pre ww2 and also during ww2 and furthermore afterwards. Scar went to live in Ireland for a bit.
@@mikejames5743 There was no history between Germany and Ireland between WW1 and WW2, and especially during WW2 when Ireland was neutral. Although the Nazis had a plan to invade Ireland it wasn't realistic. The only threat to Ireland's neutrality came from the UK.
Brazil also had important members of its government with ties to the Nazi regime and only entered the war as an “Allied” after the US pressured the Brazilian government to do so. I believe that in this scenario, Brazil would be more likely to join the Axis like Argentina.
Honestly, the most absurd part of this all is Spain invading Portugal. These are two of the countries with the most mutual respect and appreciation in the entire world, plus at that time both of them were governed by dicators of similar ideologies (Franco and Salazar). A much more likely scenario would've been some sort of alliance or peaceful merging.
i dont think so after the UK deafeat and General Franco aleardy wanted to intervene in our timeline in Portugal its not far fetch that germany will persuade them to invade the country if they where given support and that the biggest obstacle the UK was no longer present
It's pretty well done, but I think there's something to keep in mind: the vast majority of experts say that if the Germans had reached the Suez Canal, closing it to the Allies, that was the moment when Spain would have entered the Axis, because otherwise That way the Mediterranean was closed for the Allies, leaving it like a lake for the Axis. In fact, the then Chief of Operations of the General Staff of the Spanish Navy, Luis Carrero Blanco (who would later be known as Franco's right hand man, being the first president appointed by Franco after establishing the separation of the posts of Head of State and President of the Government), wrote in 1940 the report that convinced Franco to leave Spain out of WW2. However, in that same report he recommended Spain's entry into the war as soon as the Germans reached Suez, since then Spanish neutrality would be viewed with suspicion, both by the Axis and by the Allies, and both sides had already shown they had no scruples in violating the neutrality of third countries (We all know how the Axis acted throughout WW2, but the Allies aren't innocent either: the German invasion of Norway was brought forward in response to the leaks of Allied plans to invade Norway to prevent the obtaining of Swedish iron ore, and in 1941 the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran happened) Therefore, the entry of Spain would not have had to wait so many months (from the German arrival at Suez in October 1942 until the Spanish entry into the war, according to the video, in May 1943), which would have caused a British reaction, at least with a landing attempt on the Canaries, the Azores, Cape Verde, Madeira and the Gulf of Guinea islands (the Spanish Fernando Poo and Annobon, and the Portuguese Sao Tome and Principe) to ensure the maritime route on the African coast of the Atlantic. Probably the small and weak response of the Portuguese government to the British invasion of its Atlantic archipelagos would cause the perfect excuse for Spain to invade mainland Portugal. On the other hand, it is most likely that Franco and many Falangist elements in his government and army took advantage of the situation to annex Portugal, and not just its African colonies. They would have also taken the opportunity to annex the Oran region of French Algeria, since 75% of the European population of that territory was of Spanish origin; and all the territories claimed at that time by the Sultanate of Morocco: the whole of Mauritania, part of French Algeria (Tindouf and Bechar) and northern Mali (including Timbuktu). I am also surprised that the African colonies of Cameroon and Congo are not joining, with the possibility of adding what we now know as the Central African Republic.
Great analysis! I think Franco tried his best to avoid participating in a war with a weaken and devastated post-civil war population with all its fresh instability and factions. Hitler was not a fan of Franco, so likely, Spain could have become a puppet state with a different leader, driving the invasion of Portugal and NW Africa and controlling Gibraltar straight as you mentioned
In this world: The Nazis were the first to make a successful nuclear warhead. They also colonized the Moon, made interdimisonal portals, and successfully reached Mars
Even if they would have taken Stalingrad, if would have been a loss. Russia singlehandedly beat the axis, with the Americans and Brits just helping it go faster. For the Germans to have won, they would've had to magically do everything right from 1940 onward. By 1942 the war was already lost.
German resources: multiples USSR after Moscow: gives up American Pacific Fleet: vanishes Japanese Navy: invincible German nukes: appears Hotel: Trivago
I actually think that the axis wouldn't even have to put up a fight to.conquer Brazil, it would've joined them by free will, the regime was authoritarian, and the leader at the time was sympathetic to fascism. Without the US incentive for Brazil to join the allies, that would be the most likely scenario
Amazing and well done video, though I have some grievances, how Mengjiang (Mengkukuo if you're a hoi4 nerd) was a Mongola puppet state that Japan created while conquering, it showed in the video that it never invaded Mongolia, still an amazing video and really greaat how there were buffer states, (and how some of them were countries lol)
To me some of the puppet states make no sense. Like I get it if places like Thailand or Russia or Amazonia are neutral zones states as Thailand is just an amazing neutral zone in general, but Pakistan and parts of America? That makes no sense as there are people there and it just looks like the perfect place for a resistance group to set up shop there. Sure the author who made the book probably made them so rebel groups can have a fighting chance (because everyone should hate the Nazis and fascists) but if this actually happened then I doubt that Neutral zones like that would be made, there would probably just be puppet states and demilitarized zones
What bothers me is the fact they’re invading South America and South America being in the allies faction, had the Axis been winning south America would’ve automatically switched to their side with no hesitation as they had build relations with the Germans and Japanese years prior, the Germans and Japanese would’ve invaded through neutral Mexico instead of landing in the coasts because there is no way any invading force can attempt that without a land mass that is close enough for such move. Hawaii is too small to hold a large invading force that will be needed to invade the west coast and same can be said for Bermuda when trying to invade the east coast.
As long as the axis only declared war on one major empire at a time it would be possible for them to have a positive outcome but fighting them all at the same time would be physically impossible
My serious Two-Cents- while this RUclips vid is mostly realistic on how an Axis victory could/would happen; there were still some parts that I didn't think were realistic and would've gone like that, even in that alternate timeline... For one, Portugal had a Pro-Axis AND Pro-Franco government in power when WW2 broke out and in the early years of the war it tried to sit on the sidelines and play nice with both sides, until one side started winning -and it went with the winning side in our timeline. The same scenario would likely play out in the show/book's timeline too; it would've been a Pro-Axis ally that would have backed up Spain and eventually join the war with the Axis -once the Axis was winning the overall war. The author should've addressed the Battle of Dunkirk too; that early battle was actually a MAJOR bellwether on which way the war was going to go, and Britain winning it and being able to evacuate her troops in time -was a serious turning point in the war and insured that Britain was going to stay in the fight and gradually win; because before Dunkirk a portion of the British government was on the fence about continuing the war or opening peace negotiations with Germany -in the worst-case-scenario of France falling and the British/Allied Army getting crushed. Yet what if an additional point of divergence also played out in this timeline; Hitler goes with Goering's advice and continues the push into northern France and either ends up outflanking and capturing (or killing) the entire trapped British/Allied Army before they could reach Dunkirk and the northern coast? That worst-case-scenario for Britain would've had a demoralizing effect on it's people; many of the best and most experienced officers of the BA, along with a third of that army and other Allied forces -would be gone, and while Britain would still have her Navy; that's still a large chunk of her army and it's most experienced officers, commanders, along with their equipment and intelligence -all gone. In addition, the French resistance would too be demoralized and formation/organization of the Free French government either would have taken longer or would not have been able to effectively function. That scenario for Britain and France, and coupled with America staying neutral and not sending over supplies -would've GREATLY weakened Britain's overall military position on land; especially in the middle east and the Mediterranean. Even if Churchill still gave a defiant 'Never Surrender' speech and got his government to press on with the war -without a strong, large army in the field; she wouldn't be able to stop Rommel in North Africa nor wouldn't have been able to easily overthrow the Iraqi Pro-Axis government and also keep Iran in line and Syria and the middle east in Allied hands; instead. With this combined with a Japan that delays Pearl Harbor and invading the Philippines for another year and focuses solely on invading British/French colonies, hammering their shipping, and intimidating Australia and New Zealand -the bulk of the BA and her colonial forces would be tied up in defending home soil and preparing for invasion; in fact the British Navy would be the only factor stopping Germany from attempting Operation Sea Lion, and focusing the might of the Luftwaffe in Operation Barbarossa instead. With those factors combined, they influence the other factors of particular neutral nations and powers that were sitting on the sidelines and watching events to see which way the political and military winds were going to shift in the aftermath of the fall of France; Germany crushing the Allied armies in France would likely lead to Turkey joining the Axis during or perhaps shortly before Operation Barbarossa was launched (it would depend on whether Germany diplomatically negotiated with Turkey and was patient; or instigated a Pro-Axis coup and turned Turkey into a puppet state instead), nevertheless getting Turkey into the war on the side of the Axis would've served as a springboard for Germany to seize the entire Caucuses (including the Baku oil fields) during Barbarossa AND also to invade the middle east from the north and prop up Iraq and pressure Iran to join the Axis... unless Iran had it's own Pro-Axis coup by that point as well? So indeed; in terms of tactics & strategy for WW2 overall; Dunkirk was a serious bellwether, and an Axis victory at such an event would make the scenario in this vid very, very plausible. Still, not to tear down this author; some of the events and timeline is realistic and I agree that it would've likely happened if things turned out differently, and I give kudos to the author on that. The author is more then welcome to adapt some of what I'm saying into any new vids on these subjects as well.
Well im late on this but if rommel managed to capture suez canal and get turkey on their side and captured stalingrad to defeat the soviets it would have been possible to supply japan with resources needed to defeat US
As a Brazilian I say that the invasion of Brazil is distorted, Getúlio Vargas, President of Brazil only sided with the allies because he was pressured by D. Roosevelt, but as he was assassinated there was never what became known as the "good neighbor policy" . Furthermore, Vargas had good relations with the Nazis, who in the course of events would probably join them. If this did not happen, in the south of Brazil there is a large number of German and Italian immigrants, who could try to wage a second war of independence in the states of Santa Catarina, Paraná and Rio Grande do Sul, in addition, the south of the country was the headquarters of the Nazi party in Brazil and also the Brazilian integralist party (our fascist party) which was banned, but a coup could easily occur in the capital Rio de Janeiro with German support, as there were several followers. I don't know if Brazil's invasion of the universe is talked about much, but what I'm saying could be more likely to happen by historical facts.
Still incredible unbelievable, although I am glad that you did put SOME thought into it. Makes the hilariously ridiculous plot of Man in High Castle a little bit more believable.
Nice video, you've clearly been rattling this around in your noggin a good bit, I'm no war buff so I can't speak to how plausible it may or may not be but I got it.
Except the area of a larger axis territories in the Americas would easily surround the independent North and South American nations. Based on reality before WW2 many of the Latin American nations were also close to Germany.
Probably the Nazis in the Man in the High castle universe liked that term and decided to call themselves that, much like how the British in the American Revolution called the rebels as Yanks or Yankees and the early Americans were like “Hey its pretty catchy, lets have it as our nickname”
That's only in the show, for shock value and inaccuracy. In the book it's apparently "Greater Germanic Reich." And there is more complexity and different scenarios in the book apparently. It should be Greater Germanic Reich, as this actually makes sense in the US where the largest ethnic group is German and Nazi Germany owns the most German parts of it.
@@firemangan2731 Americans still call themselves Yanks, and every other country calls Americans Yanks. Also Americans in the south are sometimes called rebels because that’s where the Confederacy was in the American Civil War
@@Awakeningspirit20 Imo, realistically 'Greater Germanic Reich' would have likely been the name of the entire Third Reich in Europe & Africa (or the parts of it that it claimed); I know it sounds cheesy, yet I understand the logic of using the title 'Greater Nazi Reich' in the show as the official title of the ENTIRE Nazi empire for this reason; while the Aryan-German people make up a good chunk of the population of the GNR; the majority of the GNR population would still comprise of Non-Germanic Aryan-oriented races and ethnic groups in their empire -like the English, French, Italians, Swedes, Spanish, Portuguese, Finns, Icelanders, Scots, Afrikaners, French-Canadians, Arabs, etc. Therefore while not everyone of the GNR is a German Aryan; the GNR is still a One-Party state, hence ALL of the population are legally required to be members of the Nazi Party (or other national or related groups that are considered part, or in union with the Nazi Party); hence, the 'Greater Nazi Reich' is the title; because while not every GNR citizen is a German; every GNR citizen is (or is legally required to be) a Nazi.
It is a bit hard to imagine how Germany would do a cross-ocean invasion of the US. Also hard to believe that a German aircraft with an A-bomb would make it to DC to drop that bomb against what no doubt would have been very intense air defense. And where would it have flown from?
I would of imagined that they would of used a V2 rocket of some sort or if this takes place in an era where Germany was able to produce all of these technological "super weapons". Then maybe they use "Horten stealth bomber". Thats the only realistic way I see it happening tbh
Germany was working on 2 or 3 long-range bombers to attack the US during WW2 but never got very far with them (excuse the pun) because they got bogged down in the USSR, and were ultimately defeated by them.
it may be terrifying for the western powers but it would have been a victory for all asian colonies which were dictated by the french , british , and other western powers rulling the asian colonies
@@MaverickStonex japan was worst than the Europeans the British and French actually tried to develop there colonise while japan just took all the recources and there more brutal forcing there colonial subjects to bow down every time they saw a Japanese soldiers
This video is the personification of my nightmare's, I mean all U.S. history will be forgotten and today I would have been indoctrinated as a facist, Oh god NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
@@MaverickStonex some Europeans powers did such as the dutch which took recources from the colonies to there home land same as the Japanese did but the British and French developed there colonies this why india and Australia have a better economy than Indonesia despite Australia have only 25 million people and Indonesia has 240 million
Id say the reason that no other countries besides Germany and Japan are shown on the shows map is mainly just them making the people think they rule more than they actually do
Interesting and well made video as it definitely tunes up to what's actually happened in the man in the high castle timeline.... but in reality it would have been impossible for the axis to occupy not one continent but several. The ordenence resources and troops in would take would be ridiculous.
thats how you know this show is stupid because Germany didnt give a shit about america but hated switzerland and wanted to annex the german half of switzerland dividing it up with the italians
If I recall the US was alone when invaded. AKA the invasion of the United States was also conducted on land since many of the bombers had to of been launched from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, the Bahamas, Cuba.
@subscribe to my empty channel or Two things. No way was Japan going to destroy an entire fleet in one air raid, second most of the fleet was built after the war. Third Germany and Italy ran out of oil. If they run at Stalingrad nothing would really change they were extremely overstretched and running out of rescources regardless. Second the USA got nukes. Also how in the hell would Japan reach mainland america for bombing. Japan would have no land to launch air raids that were anywhere close enough. The use could just pump out endless plains to destroy there navy even if the US Navy got destroyed. Invading Britian is a big streatch and invading US is just bad alt history because the logistics make it nearly impossible with 1940 tech.
Great Video, but some mistakes; -Ireland couldn’t have joined the Axis. They wouldn’t have been able to invade the British Isles and Germany had plans to invade them anyways. -Germany would have invaded the British Isles MUCH sooner. -Nepal was in the Allies. -The Boers wouldn’t have been able to revolt. Germany would have just invaded South Africa after the fall of the UK. -The Carribean is Japanese in the books and movies. The PSA owns Baja, and Mexico was in the Allies. -Germany would NEVER EVER give up the rich resources in the Caucuses to Iran or Turkey or anybody else. And Turkey wouldn’t give up East Thrace. -The Great Basin States dont exist... -Italy owns Egypt and Germany owns Mittelafrika. -Central America is Japanese.
If steiner’s attack was made:
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Steiner attacked yesterday!!!
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DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL!!!!!
When you put game difficulty to easy
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It's not that hard to win as Germany, main thing is to crush USSR as early as possible, the rest is easy
@@user-tj6tr4qx3p Yes because crushing ussr as early as possible is that easy
Firemangan like seriously does this dude not realize that Germany struggled because of oil shortages and tough territory to fight in while the USSR prevailed because of unlimited manpower and a metric load of support.
@@blenterbl Germany also couldnt replace their losses like the soviets could, and couldnt move their divisions and resources that easily due to them still using millions of horsers for transportation
The allies lost because Nepal didnt join the allies
GURKHA AKHIRI
You're forgetting butan
@@arya6085 and Tibet
And Switzerland
And saudi arabia
Germany magically have enough oil and troops
Probably woudlve had plenty in Russia and Middle East after invading
More resources and industry than all of North America.
Receiving an arsenal of thermonuclear warheads from a post-apocalyptic future would have sufficed.
Well FDR died
They would’ve just forced their captured soldiers into wermacht troops but their pride and ideology got in their way, not suprised.
Isn't it beautiful how empires ALWAYS fail?
If Italy was actually effective:
Lol highly doubt they’re gona be effective in any Alt Axis victory senario 😂
@@firemangan2731 They would only be effective if Germany was effective; even as a lesser army -there is strength in combined numbers, and especially in purpose when you're united with more powerful allies.
@@cjquirk5735 Yeah, but the problem is, Italy is very reliant to the resources, equipment and man power of of the Wermacht through out the course of their time in the war, which also drained the Wermacht of its own energey for its war in the western front and especially the eastern front. Italy’s military commanders in ww2 are nothing more than sell outs who were hired by Mussolini just because they have loyalty to his party, especially Italy at the time isn’t as mich industrialized and modern enough to fight in a war at the capacity of WW2 and they seem to be more effective on a war that is like WW1.
@Joseph VanSickle
Italy’s fascist party dint have anti-semitism nor does Mussolini himself, there were plenty of jews in his party. Mussolini only wanted to spread Italian culture and assimilate other ethnicites to his empire, he only put the racial laws in place because of being an ally of Hitler, obviously Mussolini thought it was all bullshit but had to play along.
@@firemangan2731 yes in fact i have seen a documentary about Mussolini that said his cook was a Jew and when Hitler came to Mussolini's house the dux hid him from Adolf
Japan magically destroys the entire us navy
Maybe they won battle of midway
@@danialzidaneamarty8493 The US would be able to just build 10 more ships for each one lost
@TheRisingSun The US had 22 aircraft carriers. It took as little as 14 months to make a aircraft carrier. Its also important to recognize that Japan was attempting to conquer and hold onto a ton of land and people. The amount ofl rescources and men it would take to garrison this land is insane. They were fighting a power that had significantly more land, more people, more industry, and more rescources. They would have lost no matter what happened at midway.
Patrick Cossack he probably meant isuruku yamamoto lmfaoo
@@brivdon6746 well yes but if the Japanese won Midway the Us would just surrender the Us is so Close to surrendering but Midway was won by the Us if Japan won Midway the Us Navy could be shattered but because of The Japanese Lacking Oil the Americans took Advantage
and then 30 years later Aliens vs Axis
@Wehrmacht nazi deutschland Damn man,your profile name.
Wish that was a thing
The Axis would lose
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Badass.
Mexico’s perspective of the War:
The Axis invade North America: *Panik*
The Axis don’t invade you: *Kalm*
The Axis offer to buy some land from you: *Stonks*
Was really interested to see if they would become apart of the Axis to regain lost territory like all the previous axis members besides the main powers lol. Though I guess since lebensraum was basically a rip off of manifest destiny they viewed the US as carrying these righteous claims.
This maybe one hell of a stupid question. But did mexico just stay, MEXICO or did it later get controlled by the axis?
@@tacosdecabeza Considering this comment, probably stayed Mexico and neutral so as to not get owned if they were in Allies 2.0. Though sadly did not regain back their old states.
@@SciRuler Damn...
@@SciRuler manifest destiny had no claims in the land they conquered. The lebensraum at least was claimed by a vital space owned by germans
I love how even at the end of the world switzerland is still neutral eating popcorns
Yeah... till they’re invaded a few years later after the Axis had won the war
@@srezno-ivan2006 thank god the soviets didnt lose
@@demmonite1007 yeah communism is great and wont ever fail...or does it?
@@Anonymus18 didnt think it failed agaisnt the biggest superpower aka germany, also id think it failed in a chinese civil war, id think it failed in ex yugoslavia lol
@@demmonite1007 and it failed in the soviet union 😂 forgot to mention it
I don't see the point of the axis in keeping "neutral zones". By pure logic those are perfect territories for rise anti-axis movements.
Yeah and people will just run into the neutral zones, because there really no government
The neutral zones are more to separate the two Major powers
Basically to prevent a situation like in our timeline where the US and Soviets were able to confront each other and escalate tensions, allowing the areas to be war torn, frontier states was I guess a good enough trade off
Random Gaming lol hitler admired japan nationalism.
The neutral zones are buffers
Roosevelt: dies before doing his New Deal*
Butterfly Effect: Allow me to introduce myself
Life is Strange
Roosevelt: dies before doing his New Deal
Garner: enacts the new deal
@@soyentak5076 Garner is a conservative democrat unlike Roosevelt, he would’ve never enacted the new deal and is a strong advocate of American isolationism, so had Garner been president America would be different from the one under Roosevelt but I can see Man in the high castle’s portrayal of what America would’ve been from the 30s to WW2 had FDR been assassinated greatly exaggerated.
In reality, an Italian immigrant named Giuseppe Zangara attempted to assasinate FDR on Februrary 15, 1933
@@firemangan5024 I think what really would have changed things is if Hitler never attempted to invade the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 with Operation Barbarossa. Had the Eastern Front never happened, the Axis might have won ww2
Alright, who started playing HOI4 on the area 51 computer?
Lol
Imagine showing this to allies before ww2
You know its funny! Now that you mention it, maybe thats how the allies won! ^O^
@@SamirZeGeek it would scare the shit out of them
@@medamg2609 yep
Well, then the Allies know exactly what plans the Axis would use. And the U.S would know when Japan would attack them
They would laugh, germany has enough troops and oil. Japan plan on pearl habour suddenly worked. Axis would never win
"Roosevelt dies"
What hitler thought that would happen:
@Zaidy No. When Roosevelt died Hitler thought the allied faction would fall apart and the war would be on Germany’s favor like it was in 1940 to 42.
Can't believe that I see you here
@How To Solve Yeah but the new deal did the lay the foundations to the US’s economic recovery especially the later policies that were made by the Roosevelt administration.
USA: Ha ha. We retook Hawaii, the tide of the war has turned-
Japan: NOPE.
Indonesian puppet axis : BANZAIII
@@afdalridwan3813 puppet
Too bad Roosevelt was assassinated in this timeline, otherwise Japan would’ve been the USA’s bitch again
@@Tacoman542 Yes thank goodness we are Israel's bitch in our timeline 😂
London isn't even White and the country is ruled by some punjab
So much winning!🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇳🇷🇺🏳️🌈✡️
@@Tacoman542 There was a real assassination attempt on FDR. On February 15, 1933, a Italian imigrant named Giuseppe Zangara did try to kill FDR. Luckily the attempt failed
Rest of the World: is in chaos
Mexico: *This is Fine*
Yet they lost Baja California
@@rbvfeehfbudenrj Its a low cost for the peace
29/05/2021
Nobody asked
@@NariVakera that's why nobody likes you, as if anyone had to ask to say anything... Bold to assume he actually has to ask YOU in the first place, know your place man.
@@michaelbilotta1567 he does have to ask, he’s my submissive maid.
Lol everyone avoided Afghanistan
USA: DID SOMEONE SAY OIL!?
Everybody has PTSD from it.. even if its in the future o_O
Because it’s the graveyard of empires
@@klif4755 ?
@@AW27007 Soviets in Afghanistan reference
While the entire premise for the events of the book actually happening is absurd, your analysis of how this happens makes a lot of sense. For the sake of sticking to the storyline, a lot of factors are to be ignored but the situation faced by countries before 1940 may make it possible for a slightly smaller version of such events to happen.
Overall, great video. Kudos!
His video is pretty good, my one complaint is Chile being an ally member. They had good relations with Germany, and though they did join the war later as an Ally member, it was after Germany surrendered and Japan was the last member of the axis.
Another really absurd thing I noticed is that the world was shown to be less modernize than today which shouldn't be true because Germany was more advanced
@@bruuhminecraft6549 Its set in 1962!
@@michaelrenper796 oh
@@michaelrenper796 damn I'm stupid
What's in your head as you hop on HOI4 as a noob:
What actually happens: Capitulation to allies by 1943:/
The problem with "the Axis wins WW2" scenarios is that they require a long series of wildly improbable events. The events in this video are not only improbable they are impossible. The whole US Navy was not at Pearl Harbor on December 7th 1941. Not even the whole Pacific Fleet was at Pearl Harbor.
Man in the High Castle took place in an another Earth from another universe that is similar to ours but slight differences in its events from ours in our Earth, some idiot in the US government could’ve ordered the entire navy to Pearl Harbor for whatever reason.
@@firemangan2731 In the alternative history fiction community that is known as "alien space bats". or ASB for short. If you need alien space bats to show up for your story to work, it doesn't.
@@firemangan2731
Only the Navy is massive, and Pearl Harbor does not have the capacity to house it all. Nor is it possible to supply such a massive force in one location.
@@firemangan2731 The United States Navy on December 7 1941, Consisted of 902 Commissioned Vessels. There were 345
Principal Combat Vessels, consisting of
Aircraft Carriers 7 + 1 Escort Carrier
Battleships 17
Heavy Cruisers 18
Light Cruisers 19
Destroyers 171
Submarines 112
It's impossible to fit all of them in Pearl Harbor so it's impossible for the Japanese Navy to sink everything in one attack.
@@lawrencehakiwai
That ammount of Naval vessels and many other military equipment was the result of FDR rebuilding and preparing the United States for war which was inevitable and also to supplie the British in their fight against Germany that would benifit the US financially and economically. FDR got JFK’d in Man in the high castle which he was followed by two other presidents who were just 2 extra Hoovers and mostly dint do anything aside from making their own “New deal” policy which both ended up as failures and kept the United States at midst of the depression to which there still wouldn’t be a Lend lease act that would help the Soviets and the UK to fight on, yes they will last a very long time but they will eventually drain their supplies and reasources fighting the Nazis.
Hitler in Man in the High castle seemed to have more intelligence than our Hitler, to which he might never thought nuclear power as “jewish science” and could’ve called up Einstien for his nuclear program (to which our Hitler would obviously never do) to secure chances of victory.
Chile would have joined Germany.
Chile always had sympathy for everything German
They would’ve likely betrayed them to the Japanese since they [The Japanese] are a stronger ally and having chilie as an ally wouldn’t really do much.
@@firemangan2731 West for Japan, east for german
@@afdalridwan3813 Chilie is far from the range of germany and given to how thin the country is it will all go to the Japanese.
But Japan annexed Chile and didn’t spare it soo....
@@generalcomrade3352 They dint, they only made it into a puppet state. Theres a difference between annexation and being puppeted.
Even if the US lost 3 entire Pacific fleets, their combined industrial and economic might was such comparatively speaking, that they could have been easily rebuilt before Japan even touched the mainland. We've never even approached a scenario where the USA entered "total mobilisation". The Man in the High Castle is a nice fictional series but very improbable. The North African theater was unsalvageable even with Rommel leading it, that should tell you something. Admiral Yamamoto said it best: "We have 6 months." He was probably the only man who truly knew what he was talking about in regards to the Axis view of America. Your video was interesting to watch though, thumbs up for the great work.
No. No
There is no way they could have rebuilt multiple fleets in the time it would take Japan to sail across the Pacific should such losses be suffered. Where do you buy your weed lol
@@brettvogel8418 You seem to think that the lack of a fleet would make this a road trip for Japan. Think again. There would have been many important strategic bases to take along the way, most notably Guam and Midway. Japan was over extended already and suffering from a desperate lack of crude oil from prolonged US embargo. That was the whole reason for the Pearl Harbor "gamble" in the first place. Taking into account it's own losses, the need for repairs... taking these, taking Hawaii etc. would not have been that easy. The main point to remember is that the US could replace their losses fairly easy and somewhat quickly. Japan could not. It lacked oil, it lacked steel and coal, etc. all which America had in abundance. It's industry could simply not compete. I can't link sources here, youtube doesn't like links sadly, but the by the end of the war, the US could produce a carrier every month or so. It owned 70% of the world tonnage in fleet capacity and about 50% (yes, 50) of the industrial capacity of the entire planet at the time. Each defeat would have ramped up war support considerably among the American public. It would no longer be perceived as a "foreign" conflict but a fight for survival at that point. Japan simply never had any hope to invade the continental United States. Even their most optimistic previsions simply seeked to inflict enough casualties to discourage the american public from supporting further interventions abroad and seek a negotiated settlement. Me thinks you've been playing too much HOI4 if you think it would have been that quick and easy.
@@robertbastiencote4284 sounds to me those problems would be solved by taking out 3 fleets man. You're acting like that wouldn't be a devestating loss.
@@brettvogel8418 Don't get me wrong, it would be. Just not a crippling one. I think you are undervaluating one factor: I didn't specify what state the Japanese fleet would be in after those 3 battles. Even with some kind of miracle scenario, I don't see it as being combat worthy after those engagements. Those deficiencies I mentionned would affect repair capacity as well. More repairs mean more time for the US to recover. Besides even if all the stars aligned and a litteral divine wind took down those fleets for them, no Japanese admiral would just rush to the mainland trying to invade a country of a 130 million people with at least 6 times it's own industrial capacity while leaving pockets of resistance behind that could threaten it's own supply lines. It would be suicide. It was never their objective in the first place anyway. I mean even with the situation reversed, complete mastery of the sea and air dominance, 2 nuclear bombs were dropped instead of attempting to invade. That should tell you something about the difficulty and complexity of launching such an operation sucessfully.
Mexico to the rest of the world: thats a shame .
What about colombia, afghanistan and the mongols?
And Tannu tuva
and siberia.
*“After nearly eight years of war, the Allied cause is doomed”* damn, what a line to read
How many casualties ??
If only….
@@theenforcer3667a lot.
@@theenforcer3667 Most likely an estimate of 100 million or 200 million considering how huge the war became in the high castle timeline.
It's game over man! Game over!
This tense music and knowledge of what Axis powers did make this video look like a horror story in my opinion.
I think the absurdity of this scenario kind of negates that, the Axis would never have won the war
@MarkTheFox Sure, if it were a completely different scenario where they weren't as aggressive then yeah they would've stood a better chance, still not likely but more than 0. But here in reality they were always going to be stretched too thin for their lebensraum plans
Really goes to show how little chance the axis actually had at winning. They would have needed miracle magic to pull any of this off.
Nope. If they were not so big headed they could've done it. If they were just a little more humble then their chances would've jumped exponentially.
@No Commentary Gaming Yet he litterally ended up declaring war on us following Pearl Harbor, big mistake in his part.
@@cow3210 not really
@@mattfromwiisports2468 oh god, please spare me mat from Wii sports, I know I am inferior to your power. Just joking btw
@@cow3210 no. Just no. They literally would have needed magic. If you want my deep explanation on why I will tell you tomorrow.
The music you chose for the background audio for this vid is absolutely PERFECT!!! I cannot explain it, but the sort of "hollow desolation" and strange sadness to the music perfectly encapsulates the feelings that such an alternate world/timeline would invoke if one were there!
@Duck Ok, cool! Thanks for the info!
I believe the music playing over the second half of this video is from the 1993 Stalingrad film.
Das Boot.... Majestic choice
I think the world would be a much better place without the people dragging us down
Music is making it more terrifying
game mode: creative
difficulty : easy
Peaceful*
Recruit*
The basic fallacy about this series is that it's based on a false premise: that the Nazis and Japanese desired and had the means to conquer the world. The Nazis did not think in Geo-political terms but Eurocentrically. Hitler thought in World War One terms, seeing the conquest of France and Russia as his ultimate war aims. The Nazis had no workable plan for even invading England and put no real energy into it. Nor did they have a navy capable of crossing the Atlantic against an America with three times their industrial plant. Hitler feared America. Similarly the Japanese limited their war aims to co-opting southeast Asia and China into their Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. They had no wish to go after America and could not support a cross-Pacific invasion of America with their minuscule industrial plant, barely 10% of America's. World conquest by the Nazis and Japan was simply not possible given the political-economy of their nations. But it's a nice and entertaining fantasy, which is what Hollywood is all about.
Hi Kevin, Today the story gets scary if you replace Nazi Germany with Russia and Imperial Japan with China.
I agree Nazi germany wont give 2 fucks about africa middle east and western europe Hitler main goal HIS GRAND PLAN IS NON OTHER THAN EASTERN EUROPE Same case to japan Japan only wants Asia and dont give 2 fucks about Europe africa and America
Maybe the Nazis invade America just to make they "shut up"/not intervent their Geo-political in Europe and the Japanese maybe want to fully control of Pacific like the Roman empire does which is Japanese make Pacific is their "lake" and nobody can't (ALSO) intervent their Geo-political in the asia and Pacific ocean and that reason the Germans are not anexed big part of North America, the Japanese maybe anexed big chunks in USA Canada and Alaska for make their Geo-political in Asia and the Pacific ocean still "stabilize" in their control
For the last part Mexico isn't neutral they eventually joining the allies in ww2 I know maybe they declared war in the closing part of Germans defeat but yeah it's just a film a fantasy
@@tunatavvu647 this makes sense alot ngl
This all happened because Franklin D. Roosevelt died.
And the US Navy magically vaporized.
ruclips.net/video/GWemdBKqIi0/видео.html
Like usa only use 3 carrier in midway they still have much more USA build a hundred carrier in 4 years
@@imreallynoob8311 and in 4 years the war would be over
Also Turkey joined the Axis
@@imreallynoob8311 4 years of constant embargo on the UK would have destroyed them.
Imagine it really would have came out like this.
A world without KFC
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OH GOD
Kentukisches fretiertes Huhn 🇩🇪
And anime
OH GOD THE HUMANITY!
As much as military history (both alternate and real) fascinates me, this video made me depressed. But then it made me realize, after watching "Man in the high castle" TV series, just how great full we should all be for our freedom and that the events depicted here never happened and the Allies won world war two.
I'm sorry I need a moment.
Yet they fucked up the last season
Bruh I feel bad if you actually think this would happen if they won the war 🤣😂🤦♂️
King Mac what would have happened you think?
@@SoryRN If they actually amnexed the world then they would have maybe a year or 2 with it
CaptnCreg perhaps, but now we see that our world is at stake because of this freedom and liberty
Sadly, the most underrated book and TV show ever made. Amazon adaption is awesome.
The book didn't have John Smith. Show wins I think.
The story is so unrealistic
The tv show is terrible
@@felstorm5062 Lmao any "Axis won WW2" is unrealistic because of how the axis didn't really have any chance of winning in the first place.
Lol Imagine an axis victory but the worst that happens to you is you get annexed by Ireland.
Me be vibing in Mexico
Zheeeeee
ya me too xd
No, en realidad baja california fue arrancada
@@mexicobasado8177 No se compara con el resto de paises
@@mexicomapper83 pfff me vibing in Colombia... intacto hasta 1962
Now, I hope to see a map of the Wolfenstein (Bethesda Timeline).
Considering that the premise for the original novel was a bit weird, this was a very realistic take on how such an outcome would have occurred. 👍🏻
Video quality so good, I could ALMOST read the text.
Lol imagine Nintendo in this timeline. Propaganda would be pumped through the ass XD
Super jew hunter 64 pls don't be offended
@@datuguro9029 lol no its hailurous
@@AW27007 thanks man I expected some Karen to say my comment was offensive so thank you
@@datuguro9029 no problem
"Itsa me Hitlario"
I find the assertion that the RAF would lose the Battle of Britain due to lack of support from the United States a bit strange, would the lack of 100 Octane fuel suddenly give the Luftwaffe such a massive advantage?
That's just show how the Axis Winning WW2 is so Impossible
Where do you think the Brits got their rubber from for their planes? US fleet destroyed -> Japan takes all the rubber -> no planes for Britain -> Britain loses air war
@@ingratus8160 Since the Battle of Britain was completed over a year before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour and Japan's subsequent entry into the war how would that have affected the result of the Battle of Britain?
Both the Battle of Britain and the battle of El Alamein were won by Britain and her Empire alone without help from the US. They were using US tanks in Nth Africa but that's about the only help they got from the US.
@@kiwitrainguy Got to disagree with you on that, the RAF supporting the Army in North Africa used large numbers of U.S. supplied aircraft, remember the battle took place after the Lend-Lease Act came into effect, such as the Martin Maryland and Baltimore bombers and P-40 fighters.
One thing to keep in mind is that in the series, Hitler had films from various alternate realities (not just "ours"), letting him see what choices resulted in losses and which in victories. The only way this really works, however, is if he also passed some of that knowledge onto Japan.
it's a Literal Shame that youtube deleted your Work when you aren't even promoting Nazi-ism, Shame on you RUclips.
Man I'm tired of this censorship on RUclips
@@vm99125 WE HONESTLY JUST WANT TO LEARN ABOUT HISTORY.
@ Technically, If you think about it, Alternate History is a part of History, It involves real Conflict, Or real events, But in a Different Outcome.
@ i know why you so shy about this, sweden refuse the nazi reich, and then get invaded by finland and axis europe, that's why
@@domc1 No it isn't.
Ireland taking Northern Ireland seems very unlikely to me given the state of its military, I find it more likely that as the British start to get more desperate they would temporarily annex Ireland as they did with Iceland to prevent the axis from taking it. But would still ultimately lose due to being constantly bombarded and blockaded.
Perhaps Germany supported Ireland with its own military? I don’t know, this scenario isn’t entirely realistic.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 I doubt it, Britain had a plan to invade Ireland during WW2, as soon as it became clear Ireland would join Germany then Britain would invade Ireland.
Also, take into fact that the Royal Navy would cut off any German supplies to Ireland.
definitely look into the history between Germany and Ireland post ww1 and pre ww2 and also during ww2 and furthermore afterwards. Scar went to live in Ireland for a bit.
@@mikejames5743 There was no history between Germany and Ireland between WW1 and WW2, and especially during WW2 when Ireland was neutral. Although the Nazis had a plan to invade Ireland it wasn't realistic. The only threat to Ireland's neutrality came from the UK.
@@thurmanmerman2720 The IRA were Nazi collaborators.
the music fits in perfectly
its from stalingrad 1993, Very good movie!!!
Brazil also had important members of its government with ties to the Nazi regime and only entered the war as an “Allied” after the US pressured the Brazilian government to do so. I believe that in this scenario, Brazil would be more likely to join the Axis like Argentina.
I don't think so, mayba south brazil would but they were and are trapped inside brazil
The first song is such a banger, I'd love to know what it's called
Das Boot - Klaus Doldinger
Honestly, the most absurd part of this all is Spain invading Portugal. These are two of the countries with the most mutual respect and appreciation in the entire world, plus at that time both of them were governed by dicators of similar ideologies (Franco and Salazar). A much more likely scenario would've been some sort of alliance or peaceful merging.
Portugall has been allie of UK since 14th century
Salazar declared support to Churchill already in 1939
The Spanish nationalists have entered the group
i dont think so after the UK deafeat and General Franco aleardy wanted to intervene in our timeline in Portugal its not far fetch that germany will persuade them to invade the country if they where given support and that the biggest obstacle the UK was no longer present
Either they were both neutral or they both joined the Axis.
At the famous meeting between Franco ans Hitler at the Hendaye train station, the invasion of Portugal was on the table
It's pretty well done, but I think there's something to keep in mind: the vast majority of experts say that if the Germans had reached the Suez Canal, closing it to the Allies, that was the moment when Spain would have entered the Axis, because otherwise That way the Mediterranean was closed for the Allies, leaving it like a lake for the Axis.
In fact, the then Chief of Operations of the General Staff of the Spanish Navy, Luis Carrero Blanco (who would later be known as Franco's right hand man, being the first president appointed by Franco after establishing the separation of the posts of Head of State and President of the Government), wrote in 1940 the report that convinced Franco to leave Spain out of WW2. However, in that same report he recommended Spain's entry into the war as soon as the Germans reached Suez, since then Spanish neutrality would be viewed with suspicion, both by the Axis and by the Allies, and both sides had already shown they had no scruples in violating the neutrality of third countries (We all know how the Axis acted throughout WW2, but the Allies aren't innocent either: the German invasion of Norway was brought forward in response to the leaks of Allied plans to invade Norway to prevent the obtaining of Swedish iron ore, and in 1941 the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran happened)
Therefore, the entry of Spain would not have had to wait so many months (from the German arrival at Suez in October 1942 until the Spanish entry into the war, according to the video, in May 1943), which would have caused a British reaction, at least with a landing attempt on the Canaries, the Azores, Cape Verde, Madeira and the Gulf of Guinea islands (the Spanish Fernando Poo and Annobon, and the Portuguese Sao Tome and Principe) to ensure the maritime route on the African coast of the Atlantic. Probably the small and weak response of the Portuguese government to the British invasion of its Atlantic archipelagos would cause the perfect excuse for Spain to invade mainland Portugal.
On the other hand, it is most likely that Franco and many Falangist elements in his government and army took advantage of the situation to annex Portugal, and not just its African colonies. They would have also taken the opportunity to annex the Oran region of French Algeria, since 75% of the European population of that territory was of Spanish origin; and all the territories claimed at that time by the Sultanate of Morocco: the whole of Mauritania, part of French Algeria (Tindouf and Bechar) and northern Mali (including Timbuktu).
I am also surprised that the African colonies of Cameroon and Congo are not joining, with the possibility of adding what we now know as the Central African Republic.
Great analysis! I think Franco tried his best to avoid participating in a war with a weaken and devastated post-civil war population with all its fresh instability and factions. Hitler was not a fan of Franco, so likely, Spain could have become a puppet state with a different leader, driving the invasion of Portugal and NW Africa and controlling Gibraltar straight as you mentioned
No way was Spain going to join the axis, any more than it would have been capable of closing the Mediterranean if it did.
Absolutely loved this video and it was very interesting and informative. Outstanding work.
The alternative timeline where karen is no more
Jokes aside its true tho, all LGBT orientations, mid 40 y.women with “opinions” would get executed if they talk back
@@grimsobad8545 Yeah, It would be amazing if AXIS won the war
@@crispybeamng862 Not really
@@uchihamadara6293 Yes I think so
@@crispybeamng862 There is a high chance that none of us would exist and most of the things that we like would also not exist
In this world:
The Nazis were the first to make a successful nuclear warhead. They also colonized the Moon, made interdimisonal portals, and successfully reached Mars
History HD in a nutshell
The fact that they almost went to the moon during 1943.
Wolfenstein - DOOM lore right here
In our world: People argue over which bathroom they should be allowed to use.
I see it happening.
That das boot theme right there is genious
It is from Stalingrad 1993
The first song suits German victory
BJ Blazkowicz: wiping shotguns.
Primes Ubergewehr.
"Time tah die, Nazi assholes."
My conclusion : Live in Colombia
Tbh nowhere is safe. Think about it, every single nation in the planet has a border with an axis country
If hitler watched a tutorial
Steiner attacked in 1942 to save stalingrad that's why
You failed to break paulus out of Stalingrad.
Greetings from Stalin lol
Even if they would have taken Stalingrad, if would have been a loss. Russia singlehandedly beat the axis, with the Americans and Brits just helping it go faster. For the Germans to have won, they would've had to magically do everything right from 1940 onward. By 1942 the war was already lost.
German resources: multiples
USSR after Moscow: gives up
American Pacific Fleet: vanishes
Japanese Navy: invincible
German nukes: appears
Hotel: Trivago
This timeline is surprisingly similar to what a Hoi4 run could look like
I actually think that the axis wouldn't even have to put up a fight to.conquer Brazil, it would've joined them by free will, the regime was authoritarian, and the leader at the time was sympathetic to fascism. Without the US incentive for Brazil to join the allies, that would be the most likely scenario
Amazing and well done video, though I have some grievances, how Mengjiang (Mengkukuo if you're a hoi4 nerd) was a Mongola puppet state that Japan created while conquering, it showed in the video that it never invaded Mongolia, still an amazing video and really greaat how there were buffer states, (and how some of them were countries lol)
To me some of the puppet states make no sense. Like I get it if places like Thailand or Russia or Amazonia are neutral zones states as Thailand is just an amazing neutral zone in general, but Pakistan and parts of America? That makes no sense as there are people there and it just looks like the perfect place for a resistance group to set up shop there. Sure the author who made the book probably made them so rebel groups can have a fighting chance (because everyone should hate the Nazis and fascists) but if this actually happened then I doubt that Neutral zones like that would be made, there would probably just be puppet states and demilitarized zones
Germany in Berlin: Italy help me
Italy: No, If u did agree with Russia to be on teams u would have not get occupied
*Germany has left the server*
In the TV series The Man in the High Castle, the US surrendered in 1946. This can be seen in Season 4
I think the US government surrendered. But the military kept fighting
Only the government surrendered, the civilians and the US military continued the fight.
@@aimankudin542 "Screw the feds, keep fighting!" -remainder of US military
What bothers me is the fact they’re invading South America and South America being in the allies faction, had the Axis been winning south America would’ve automatically switched to their side with no hesitation as they had build relations with the Germans and Japanese years prior, the Germans and Japanese would’ve invaded through neutral Mexico instead of landing in the coasts because there is no way any invading force can attempt that without a land mass that is close enough for such move. Hawaii is too small to hold a large invading force that will be needed to invade the west coast and same can be said for Bermuda when trying to invade the east coast.
As long as the axis only declared war on one major empire at a time it would be possible for them to have a positive outcome but fighting them all at the same time would be physically impossible
Edelweiss, edelweiss...
With a lithp
Uyghrs:you have freed us
Japan:oh i wouldn't say free more likely under new management
We get the Falklands: *Worth It*
My serious Two-Cents- while this RUclips vid is mostly realistic on how an Axis victory could/would happen; there were still some parts that I didn't think were realistic and would've gone like that, even in that alternate timeline...
For one, Portugal had a Pro-Axis AND Pro-Franco government in power when WW2 broke out and in the early years of the war it tried to sit on the sidelines and play nice with both sides, until one side started winning -and it went with the winning side in our timeline. The same scenario would likely play out in the show/book's timeline too; it would've been a Pro-Axis ally that would have backed up Spain and eventually join the war with the Axis -once the Axis was winning the overall war.
The author should've addressed the Battle of Dunkirk too; that early battle was actually a MAJOR bellwether on which way the war was going to go, and Britain winning it and being able to evacuate her troops in time -was a serious turning point in the war and insured that Britain was going to stay in the fight and gradually win; because before Dunkirk a portion of the British government was on the fence about continuing the war or opening peace negotiations with Germany -in the worst-case-scenario of France falling and the British/Allied Army getting crushed.
Yet what if an additional point of divergence also played out in this timeline; Hitler goes with Goering's advice and continues the push into northern France and either ends up outflanking and capturing (or killing) the entire trapped British/Allied Army before they could reach Dunkirk and the northern coast? That worst-case-scenario for Britain would've had a demoralizing effect on it's people; many of the best and most experienced officers of the BA, along with a third of that army and other Allied forces -would be gone, and while Britain would still have her Navy; that's still a large chunk of her army and it's most experienced officers, commanders, along with their equipment and intelligence -all gone. In addition, the French resistance would too be demoralized and formation/organization of the Free French government either would have taken longer or would not have been able to effectively function. That scenario for Britain and France, and coupled with America staying neutral and not sending over supplies -would've GREATLY weakened Britain's overall military position on land; especially in the middle east and the Mediterranean. Even if Churchill still gave a defiant 'Never Surrender' speech and got his government to press on with the war -without a strong, large army in the field; she wouldn't be able to stop Rommel in North Africa nor wouldn't have been able to easily overthrow the Iraqi Pro-Axis government and also keep Iran in line and Syria and the middle east in Allied hands; instead.
With this combined with a Japan that delays Pearl Harbor and invading the Philippines for another year and focuses solely on invading British/French colonies, hammering their shipping, and intimidating Australia and New Zealand -the bulk of the BA and her colonial forces would be tied up in defending home soil and preparing for invasion; in fact the British Navy would be the only factor stopping Germany from attempting Operation Sea Lion, and focusing the might of the Luftwaffe in Operation Barbarossa instead.
With those factors combined, they influence the other factors of particular neutral nations and powers that were sitting on the sidelines and watching events to see which way the political and military winds were going to shift in the aftermath of the fall of France; Germany crushing the Allied armies in France would likely lead to Turkey joining the Axis during or perhaps shortly before Operation Barbarossa was launched (it would depend on whether Germany diplomatically negotiated with Turkey and was patient; or instigated a Pro-Axis coup and turned Turkey into a puppet state instead), nevertheless getting Turkey into the war on the side of the Axis would've served as a springboard for Germany to seize the entire Caucuses (including the Baku oil fields) during Barbarossa AND also to invade the middle east from the north and prop up Iraq and pressure Iran to join the Axis... unless Iran had it's own Pro-Axis coup by that point as well? So indeed; in terms of tactics & strategy for WW2 overall; Dunkirk was a serious bellwether, and an Axis victory at such an event would make the scenario in this vid very, very plausible.
Still, not to tear down this author; some of the events and timeline is realistic and I agree that it would've likely happened if things turned out differently, and I give kudos to the author on that. The author is more then welcome to adapt some of what I'm saying into any new vids on these subjects as well.
@Jack Pluth You're largely right.
6:50 How to trigger an Indian
Japan destroys some part of the Navy.
IRL USA: you pick the wrong house fool
Well im late on this but if rommel managed to capture suez canal and get turkey on their side and captured stalingrad to defeat the soviets it would have been possible to supply japan with resources needed to defeat US
Steiner didn't attack and this didn't happen.
This enraged his father who punished him severely.
AKA the average hoi4 game
Italy: Wait a second--
The Choice of Music for this is Excellent!
As a Brazilian I say that the invasion of Brazil is distorted, Getúlio Vargas, President of Brazil only sided with the allies because he was pressured by D. Roosevelt, but as he was assassinated there was never what became known as the "good neighbor policy" . Furthermore, Vargas had good relations with the Nazis, who in the course of events would probably join them. If this did not happen, in the south of Brazil there is a large number of German and Italian immigrants, who could try to wage a second war of independence in the states of Santa Catarina, Paraná and Rio Grande do Sul, in addition, the south of the country was the headquarters of the Nazi party in Brazil and also the Brazilian integralist party (our fascist party) which was banned, but a coup could easily occur in the capital Rio de Janeiro with German support, as there were several followers. I don't know if Brazil's invasion of the universe is talked about much, but what I'm saying could be more likely to happen by historical facts.
Sim mano
Still incredible unbelievable, although I am glad that you did put SOME thought into it. Makes the hilariously ridiculous plot of Man in High Castle a little bit more believable.
Nice video, you've clearly been rattling this around in your noggin a good bit, I'm no war buff so I can't speak to how plausible it may or may not be but I got it.
Except the area of a larger axis territories in the Americas would easily surround the independent North and South American nations. Based on reality before WW2 many of the Latin American nations were also close to Germany.
Argentina had a president who was in German and he was using as a model German here
So this man is from the other universe and somehow this video get through this universe
Ikr? Like how the films from our reality ended up to the Man in the High Castle reality.
"Greater Nazi Reich" i love the irrealism of The Man in The High Castle...
Probably the Nazis in the Man in the High castle universe liked that term and decided to call themselves that, much like how the British in the American Revolution called the rebels as Yanks or Yankees and the early Americans were like “Hey its pretty catchy, lets have it as our nickname”
That's only in the show, for shock value and inaccuracy. In the book it's apparently "Greater Germanic Reich." And there is more complexity and different scenarios in the book apparently. It should be Greater Germanic Reich, as this actually makes sense in the US where the largest ethnic group is German and Nazi Germany owns the most German parts of it.
Yep
@@firemangan2731 Americans still call themselves Yanks, and every other country calls Americans Yanks. Also Americans in the south are sometimes called rebels because that’s where the Confederacy was in the American Civil War
@@Awakeningspirit20 Imo, realistically 'Greater Germanic Reich' would have likely been the name of the entire Third Reich in Europe & Africa (or the parts of it that it claimed); I know it sounds cheesy, yet I understand the logic of using the title 'Greater Nazi Reich' in the show as the official title of the ENTIRE Nazi empire for this reason; while the Aryan-German people make up a good chunk of the population of the GNR; the majority of the GNR population would still comprise of Non-Germanic Aryan-oriented races and ethnic groups in their empire -like the English, French, Italians, Swedes, Spanish, Portuguese, Finns, Icelanders, Scots, Afrikaners, French-Canadians, Arabs, etc. Therefore while not everyone of the GNR is a German Aryan; the GNR is still a One-Party state, hence ALL of the population are legally required to be members of the Nazi Party (or other national or related groups that are considered part, or in union with the Nazi Party); hence, the 'Greater Nazi Reich' is the title; because while not every GNR citizen is a German; every GNR citizen is (or is legally required to be) a Nazi.
Really well done, IMO...thank you.
It is a bit hard to imagine how Germany would do a cross-ocean invasion of the US. Also hard to believe that a German aircraft with an A-bomb would make it to DC to drop that bomb against what no doubt would have been very intense air defense. And where would it have flown from?
I would of imagined that they would of used a V2 rocket of some sort or if this takes place in an era where Germany was able to produce all of these technological "super weapons". Then maybe they use "Horten stealth bomber". Thats the only realistic way I see it happening tbh
9/11
Germany was working on 2 or 3 long-range bombers to attack the US during WW2 but never got very far with them (excuse the pun) because they got bogged down in the USSR, and were ultimately defeated by them.
Thank you Sergio Russian for being respectful to the losing Germans and for showing us this alternate outcome!
Thanks for retrieving it
Every hoi4 game when me and my friends play as the axis:
Just the thought of an axis victory is terrifying
it may be terrifying for the western powers but it would have been a victory for all asian colonies which were dictated by the french , british , and other western powers rulling the asian colonies
@@MaverickStonex japan was worst than the Europeans the British and French actually tried to develop there colonise while japan just took all the recources and there more brutal forcing there colonial subjects to bow down every time they saw a Japanese soldiers
This video is the personification of my nightmare's, I mean all U.S. history will be forgotten and today I would have been indoctrinated as a facist, Oh god NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
@@theidiot5496 develop! Biggest joke I have heard they didn't develop any colonies they did the same thing the Japanese did
@@MaverickStonex some Europeans powers did such as the dutch which took recources from the colonies to there home land same as the Japanese did but the British and French developed there colonies this why india and Australia have a better economy than Indonesia despite Australia have only 25 million people and Indonesia has 240 million
Id say the reason that no other countries besides Germany and Japan are shown on the shows map is mainly just them making the people think they rule more than they actually do
True, theres only client states, puppet states and protectorates, not territories directly controled by Germany and Japan.
That would explain a lot of my problems away, but it feels like a cheap excuse for some reason
Interesting and well made video as it definitely tunes up to what's actually happened in the man in the high castle timeline.... but in reality it would have been impossible for the axis to occupy not one continent but several. The ordenence resources and troops in would take would be ridiculous.
Look at Switzerland just existing in the middle of that
Switzerland got anexed as the last, meaning Switzerland was the most OP one
@@SamirZeGeek Nah, the mighty Luxembourg World Empire was the strongest. Germany had caught them off guard.
@@eternal5930 I see you are an intellectual.
thats how you know this show is stupid because Germany didnt give a shit about america but hated switzerland and wanted to annex the german half of switzerland dividing it up with the italians
Where is the original video? Was it deleted?
Yes.
@@moreno4821 well thats bullshit, youtube is pretty much an app of dictatorships
If I recall the US was alone when invaded. AKA the invasion of the United States was also conducted on land since many of the bombers had to of been launched from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, the Bahamas, Cuba.
@@moreno4821 omg welcome to RUclips 2020
I remember the original video was playing music from the man in the high castle tvs music,I think thats why it's deleted
Why is it in 360p?
The key is the Germans played the soundtrack from Das Boot!
This is Possible if Roosvelt was assasinated
Gabie 490 or of he just died of Polio
Not really. What Roosevelt did could have been done by many others. An invasion of North America was nearly impossible
@subscribe to my empty channel or Two things. No way was Japan going to destroy an entire fleet in one air raid, second most of the fleet was built after the war. Third Germany and Italy ran out of oil. If they run at Stalingrad nothing would really change they were extremely overstretched and running out of rescources regardless. Second the USA got nukes. Also how in the hell would Japan reach mainland america for bombing. Japan would have no land to launch air raids that were anywhere close enough. The use could just pump out endless plains to destroy there navy even if the US Navy got destroyed. Invading Britian is a big streatch and invading US is just bad alt history because the logistics make it nearly impossible with 1940 tech.
No its not,this timeline is impossible,neither germany or japan had the capabilities of invanding and managing each the two coast of the u.s
@subscribe to my empty channel Then they could have just rebuilt it, focused on Germany, and then have the entire world come crashing down on Japan.
It would really suck if they won and then Yellowstone erupted.
The big oof
tomper Lol If yellowstone erupt in the 1960s then they are f*cked 🤣
Firemangan lol
Great Video, but some mistakes;
-Ireland couldn’t have joined the Axis. They wouldn’t have been able to invade the British Isles and Germany had plans to invade them anyways.
-Germany would have invaded the British Isles MUCH sooner.
-Nepal was in the Allies.
-The Boers wouldn’t have been able to revolt. Germany would have just invaded South Africa after the fall of the UK.
-The Carribean is Japanese in the books and movies. The PSA owns Baja, and Mexico was in the Allies.
-Germany would NEVER EVER give up the rich resources in the Caucuses to Iran or Turkey or anybody else. And Turkey wouldn’t give up East Thrace.
-The Great Basin States dont exist...
-Italy owns Egypt and Germany owns Mittelafrika.
-Central America is Japanese.
Ireland definitely would have been able to invade Britain lol
Why is Central America Japanese?
@@kingmac6638 how?
LukeJS it just is. Thats what the map says :/
@@dr_Matt-nc3ne which map? In the show it shows Germany as controlling Central America
superb vid, thanks
Amazing video bro.
Hitler when he ordered Steiner too attack and turned the tied of the war: YA YA YA YA YA.
Actually, Its Ja. But still funny
I guess in this hoi4 game the us just forgot to build any industry. :/
This is literally the most tense thing I’ve ever watched
Same for me