How would have been the Cold War if Germany had won WW2

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  • How would have been the Cold War if Axis had won the Second World War? Let's suppose that after Pearl Harbour Germany and Italy don't declare war on USa and the war in Europe ends in a stalemate in 1946.
    Now there is a Cold War between Axis, Allied and Soviets.
    What would happen now? Who would have been the first man on the Moon? And Taiwan, Korea, Cuba, Middle East, Vietnam, what would have happened?
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  • @totallysean
    @totallysean 3 года назад +1782

    the fact that an armistice happened instead of one side surrendering makes this scenario a whole lot more interesting

    • @spartanalex9006
      @spartanalex9006 3 года назад +79

      Also a lot more realistic. An invasion of the US even with nukes is flat out impossible.

    • @lelouchvibritannia4028
      @lelouchvibritannia4028 3 года назад +65

      @@spartanalex9006 Same for the USSR. Those are the only two countries in the world where invading them is improbable at most.

    • @Janoip
      @Janoip 3 года назад +47

      @@lelouchvibritannia4028 China, Afghanistan, Switzerland, Iran as an example are either equally hard to take or even harder, also because of their geography.

    • @lelouchvibritannia4028
      @lelouchvibritannia4028 3 года назад +6

      @@Janoip Uh, no. I don't trust anything you would say with that username. Iran? Same as Iraq. Would be a little hard, but eventually, they would cave to the US. Chinese tech is garbage, and their soldiers are entitled poorly trained soy boys. Switzerland is an awful example, but Finland would be improbable.

    • @Janoip
      @Janoip 3 года назад +17

      @@lelouchvibritannia4028 Then look at the geography and strategies of these countries and you will understand why none will take them permanently.
      And China at the moment would be a country that even the U.S. can not take, because above are desert, Mongolia and Russia, in the west mountains and desert, below jungle and mountains, etc..
      But never mind, I don't feel like writing it out in detail, but here's a video that touches on the whole thing.
      Another country that is very difficult to take is Australia.
      Would the US military need help from allies to crush China?
      ruclips.net/video/55-_3wrMB3Y/видео.html
      Why Iran's Geography Sucks
      ruclips.net/video/zrrYZl0XJLw/видео.html
      Why Afghanistan Is Impossible to Conquer
      ruclips.net/video/Ab9zK8yT4_Y/видео.html

  • @extraintelligence
    @extraintelligence 3 года назад +2510

    "The UN is never formed, and it is not missed."
    My sides are gone, they are with God now.

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD 3 года назад +2597

    I don't think they'd bother building Germania if the war ended in anything less than total victory tbh

    • @andrewiannelli7635
      @andrewiannelli7635 3 года назад +110

      Agreed. If the Germans hadn’t achieved a total victory, they wouldn’t have the resources or the reason to build it.

    • @darrellwalker7890
      @darrellwalker7890 3 года назад +41

      He should make something about what would happen without soviet's doing amything

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD 3 года назад +109

      @@andrewiannelli7635 They'd have the resources but it would look daft if they built it after making a "losing side" peace deal with the soviets or something

    • @andrewiannelli7635
      @andrewiannelli7635 3 года назад +16

      @@AFGuidesHD I mean yeah they would probably have the resources but it would probably be a lot more costly.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha 3 года назад +38

      Actually, they would *have* to build it as a propaganda distraction for the populace. The _Volkshalle_ would need to be scaled back or delayed though.

  • @eriksniped5111
    @eriksniped5111 2 года назад +586

    Imagine seeing Waffen SS units in Vietnam in their camo dropping off from a crazy over engineered helicopter 😂

    • @businessproyects2615
      @businessproyects2615 2 года назад +106

      (on the background) "Ain't me ain't me I'm not the Fuhrer's son no no"

    • @amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849
      @amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 2 года назад +71

      @@businessproyects2615 "Some freunds were born, whiter skin than most, Ohh the pure Aryan Race, Lord"

    • @OsnoloVrach
      @OsnoloVrach 2 года назад

      @@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 lol

    • @amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849
      @amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 2 года назад +33

      @@OsnoloVrach "And when the band played "Hitlernationale", Oooh they pointing the gewehr at you, Lord!"

    • @OsnoloVrach
      @OsnoloVrach 2 года назад +29

      @@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 IT AINT MEE, IT AINT MEEEE, I AINT NO FURHER'S SOOON

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 3 года назад +1676

    History channels at dark:
    Seriously though I would love to see your content but with a bigger budget like a Netflix show.

    • @matouskulhanek3320
      @matouskulhanek3320 3 года назад +31

      Something like The new order but it was not so decisive victory but it was more like a stalemate, something like a show about thousand week reich (hoi 4 mod)

    • @hufnagelpista6759
      @hufnagelpista6759 3 года назад +19

      With a bigger budget, something like... I dont know maybe like The Man in the High Castle?

    • @ozzo1542
      @ozzo1542 3 года назад +27

      @@hufnagelpista6759 yeah but that isnt very realistic

    • @max__pain
      @max__pain 3 года назад +18

      Zvallid is way too based to be on Netflix sadly.

    • @laars2233
      @laars2233 3 года назад +6

      the video "what if america joined axis" was (for me) on the same level as most of the films ive ever watched!! I just was a bit scared because i am german and to think about we were still a nationalsotialist dictatorship made me a bit unhappy but it was still very very interesting THANKS!

  • @robertking4645
    @robertking4645 3 года назад +2396

    I gotta tell you, I kinda like the way Berlin has been rebuilt in this timeline

    • @senioravocado1864
      @senioravocado1864 3 года назад +136

      Sadly, Berlins geography can't say the same, the land under Berlin/Germania is soft, so making the "Ark of Triumph" and the "Volkshalle" is either impossible, or will sink 1 inch(?) per year

    • @getfreur2458
      @getfreur2458 3 года назад +63

      @@senioravocado1864 I'm no engineer, but couldn't the Germans replace it?

    • @Jeffthecreepyastafan
      @Jeffthecreepyastafan 3 года назад +62

      Best case scenario but modern day if there's no damage to Berlin during the war or just no war and if the Nazis didn't fall they'd probably solved it by then but we'll never truly know sadly

    • @gamalielcoe1948
      @gamalielcoe1948 3 года назад +18

      @@Jeffthecreepyastafan I mean I’m glad we’ll never know for sure unless it’s through parallel universe/multiverse shit cus I wouldn’t wanna live in a world where they won

    • @senioravocado1864
      @senioravocado1864 3 года назад +8

      @@getfreur2458 (I'm not an engineer nor a geologist too) yeah, but the land under Berlin is (from what I remember) is clay and sand with no solid bedrock, it'll be only possible if they have bedrock, but they don't. They would still ba able to make it, it would just sink if it's made of pure steel and cement.

  • @japaneseempire2909
    @japaneseempire2909 3 года назад +1131

    "Then sent first human to space, Peter Müller"
    Battlefield fans: *neuron activated*

  • @TheAidanodian
    @TheAidanodian 2 года назад +108

    I love how this timeline stays pretty realistic. Most other timelines have German tanks battling Shermans in the Midwest some point after Germany wins.

    • @truthseeking6611
      @truthseeking6611 2 года назад +5

      They'll have to get here first and with what navy?

    • @TheAidanodian
      @TheAidanodian 2 года назад

      @@truthseeking6611 true, the kriegsmarine sucked balls

    • @elliottbaker201
      @elliottbaker201 Год назад +5

      They wouldn't make it over the Smokey's

    • @anterok5345
      @anterok5345 Год назад

      @@truthseeking6611 If Britain surrendered and Germans somehow captured their navy mostly intact. Outside that, they wouldn't have a chance

  • @beavis4443
    @beavis4443 3 года назад +1705

    Imagine how advance the German Space Agency would be in this timeline

  • @curiouscaesar6813
    @curiouscaesar6813 3 года назад +3754

    "The UN are not formed and are not missed" brutal 😂😂😂😂

    • @wilhelm4646
      @wilhelm4646 3 года назад +33

      Ñ

    • @endutubecensorship
      @endutubecensorship 3 года назад +134

      If they dissolved tomorrow I would laugh. They're about as useless as the "League of Nations" that appeased hitler.

    • @JakubNaceradsky
      @JakubNaceradsky 3 года назад +38

      @Arnab But UN SC is made by ww2 victors on allies side, they even hesitate to make CCCP to join, Comunist china was not original member, then you had US, British, France (wich was quite questionable in its state), CCCP and Nationalist China... In alternative timeline, i would quess Hitler would like there Germany, Italy, Japan and? Brazil, Argentina, India? Idk. I would think, that Reich would rather focus on some kind of Union as EU and Commonwealth, even throught war Germans build infrastructures over the europe in dominated nations, they would like keep influence and boosting partners economic to feed self back with larger trade, i wont be even suprised when in alternative reality Germans created something like Marshal plan, not only to restore war damage but to boost entire regional developement.

    • @alisavdagic8116
      @alisavdagic8116 3 года назад +6

      @@JakubNaceradsky it would be the end of civilization as we know it. Nothing good about it.

    • @IceAlvaro13
      @IceAlvaro13 2 года назад +4

      But I think it is formed anyway.

  • @grantforester1864
    @grantforester1864 3 года назад +231

    16:27 finally, a good timeline

  • @regionalearth301
    @regionalearth301 2 года назад +289

    Personally with a Pacific focused USA, I'd expect the Chinese Nationalists to have been given much greater US support and with the USSR at a stalemate, I'd see the Maoists being much weaker. The USSR'S invasion of Manchukou resulted in the Japanese and puppet forces' equipment being transferred to the Maoists, which didn't happen in this timeline. Plus with greater US focus on the Japanese, perhaps Chiang could have turned on the Maoists and break the United Front. We could then also see the Marshall plan build up the Pacific as the new bulwark of democracy and capitalism, which would in turn greatly stabilize the KMT. Perhaps we'd see a Pacific Treaty Organization with the US, Canada, Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Nationalist China, Britain, Thailand, Australia, and New Zealand. I'd also see much conflict over French Indochina, with the US advocating for independence and the Vichy demanding their colonies back which would give the Axis a foothold in Asia.

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 2 года назад +16

      I think they did it like that so the USSR didn't loses / had an ally that would be able to help them fight a two front war.
      I don't think Hitler would have made a peace deal anything like this or the British.
      Personally I see the USSR and Germany having a peace deal at lest temporary maybe 5 to 10 years, maybe a few more at best.
      Germany would probably start a massive breeding program for the next war.
      Most of the Baltic, Belarus and Ukrainian would be under total occupation by Germany or there would be no peace.
      I'd say the British would have surrendered later on without american support or given in to Hitler's planed alliance, especially once the USSR made peace.
      At the end of the day without the USA, or USAF bombing campaign and a decrease in lend-lease would have given Germany an advantage even if there was a stalemate I think It wouldn't have lasted longer then 1 to 2 years and the German's would probably be back near Moscow and the Caucasus oil field's.
      The majority of USSR production that out produced Germany only did so due to lend-lease/ the ability to give up other areas of production to specialise, like 40% to 50% of the USSR truck's were american made, but 90% of it's locomotives so trains, carts, railway lines as in the steel for the train to go on was american made in the war, somthing the soviets would have to convert back from other areas like tank production.
      The Americans keep about 12million Russian feed in the war.
      Lend-lease wasn't war winning alone but a drastic decrease and no western front very dangerous in my opinion.

    • @sontung4552
      @sontung4552 2 года назад +5

      @@brianlong2334 but I think US would have upperhand in Asia. The video owner is a German nationalist so he gave Germany as most advantage in his scenario as possible. If it was real, the US would not sit quietly and see Germany sphere countries, US would help the Nationalist China to atleast stalemate the war since Maoist is weakened, Japanese war would be ended much faster. US would definitely be the winner of the Vietnam war since the North doesn't have weapons support from USSR so US and China would win the war. India situation might be hard to predict since Soviet is not so strong in this timeline. But Pakistan, Indonesia, Egypt, Israel, former British colonies, South America, and all of South East Asia would follow USA. Sonin short term, Germany kight hae upperhand because they have all of Europe. But in a long run, with better Democratic system, better potential economy, US and its Asian influence would win the war in long shift considering how Asia was so strong in the modern time.

    • @peterthx
      @peterthx Год назад +1

      @@brianlong2334 Hitler respected the British and absolutely loathed the Soviet Communists. It would be the opposite of your scenario.

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 Год назад +2

      @@peterthx Did you even read what I said... lol
      I don't really understand your comment to me... You do know the Soviets and German's worked together at the start of the war, they also even talked about the Soviets joining the Axis, they made proposals to each other about what they wanted and who would get what in Europe and the Middle East ect.

    • @peterthx
      @peterthx Год назад

      @@brianlong2334 Hitler ONLY made the deal with the Soviets to carve up Poland. Once he felt he had control over the Europe situation he invaded the Soviet Union. It's fact and history. Hitler despised Stalin (and vice-versa). He felt the Russians were an inferior people. He also didn't invade Britain.

  • @simulify8726
    @simulify8726 3 года назад +852

    You deserve more support, sadly, RUclips is sadly not a great place for discussing history and other events.

    • @sirbasilflapjack671
      @sirbasilflapjack671 3 года назад +7

      Hello, please try - Mark Felton Productions, TIK History, History Time, and History Hustle. Great channels.

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 3 года назад +57

      Feelings over truth is RUclips's motto.

    • @Theredcarolinian
      @Theredcarolinian 3 года назад +9

      That's hard to say with RUclips Censoring and Age Restricting almost as much as China

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +188

      youtube has its own version of the truth, other versions arenot allowed

    • @danishkfd
      @danishkfd 3 года назад +13

      @Guy Fawkes no it's true. History is suppressed in general

  • @matthewssilva4781
    @matthewssilva4781 3 года назад +606

    The Germans will never expect that the trees can speak Vietnamese

    • @andreasbonaparte8171
      @andreasbonaparte8171 3 года назад +144

      Well no, some of SS unit was train in Forest to fight in forest. Like the German Werewolf, also Jäger parachute unit.

    • @matthewssilva4781
      @matthewssilva4781 3 года назад +22

      @@andreasbonaparte8171 ah okay

    • @matthewssilva4781
      @matthewssilva4781 3 года назад +18

      But Vietnam has strong guerrilla skills, just ask the Americans.

    • @andreasbonaparte8171
      @andreasbonaparte8171 3 года назад +110

      @@matthewssilva4781 Well you can ask the Greece and Soviet for German guerilla.
      They even fit tank in forest in invasion of France lol 😂
      German are smart

    • @fuehrer_tb5597
      @fuehrer_tb5597 3 года назад +33

      @@andreasbonaparte8171 tropical forests are much different and harder.

  • @Zorro9129
    @Zorro9129 3 года назад +355

    This is one of the best alternative history scenarios I've seen. I'd thought about a three-way Cold War such as this before but this is far more detailed than anything I could come up with.

    • @theholt2ic219
      @theholt2ic219 2 года назад

      Honestly if Nazi Germany did survive it was probably the most likely scenario. A Cold War between the USA and Allies, USSR, and Nazi Germany.

    • @Blake4014
      @Blake4014 2 года назад

      its one of the worst, because its unrealistic. Theres no reason the west would agree to pro german europe indefinitely. German manpower wasn't infinite.

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 2 года назад +1

      @@Blake4014 That's true. Roosevelt and Churchill wouldn't let one drop of blood in America or the British Empire go unspilled if it meant letting a powerful Germany exist.

    • @thundereagle4130
      @thundereagle4130 2 года назад +5

      However its not very accurate. There is no way Germany would've let go of Netherlands and Belgium. In his eyes those countries where Germanic nations and the Dutch/Belgium ethnicity didn't exist, therefore these countries should unite with Germany (hmm, sounds familiair to the Ukraine-Russian conflict) Having full acces to the Dutch ports was really important for the German industry as well since it necked them during ww1. Switzerland would also be annexed for the same reason. The Germans never tried it in our timeline because they knew capturing Switzerland would be a pain while Switzerland itself wasn't a danger.
      Ukraine would've never be independent. The USSR would've never let go of Kiyv for cultural and population reasons (cuz the Russia part of the Sovet Union would be to small, they definitely needed more to remain a superpower), and Hitler didn't want a independent Ukraine. There is a reason why Canberra got imprisoned by the nazi's. So they would trade different land away to the Germans. Maybe they would give more land to Finland while keeping the Kyiv region for themselves, the rest of Ukraine/Moldova would be 1 bufferstate.
      Spain would in this timeline most likely annex Portugal since Spain had nothing to fear anymore. Maybe they would adventure into Marokko and try to build their little fascist empire next to roman-Italy and nazi Germany.
      Lastly, Italy would either be able to capture way more land. Lands that are hardly needed for both the Germany and Italian industry.

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 2 года назад +3

      @@thundereagle4130 Kiyv? Marokko? What's with these spellings?

  • @NewDealChief
    @NewDealChief 3 года назад +79

    10:00 What about *Douglas MacArthur?* It's truly possible he would run for President in 1948 or 1952, as he was the Commander in the Pacific and would be immensely popular leading the American victory in the Pacific against the Japanese.
    Presidents if *Douglas MacArthur* was elected in 1948; Douglas MacArthur: 1948-1956, Henry Cabot Lodge Jr: 1956-1960, John Kennedy: 1960-Present.
    Presidents if *Douglas MacArthur* was elected in 1952; Douglas MacArthur: 1952-1960 John Kennedy: 1960-Present.

    • @KaiserPalpi
      @KaiserPalpi 3 года назад +3

      It's good idea!

    • @hanhphuc166
      @hanhphuc166 3 года назад +10

      Obama awarding Obama meme.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +18

      probably you are right

    • @NewDealChief
      @NewDealChief 3 года назад +1

      @@zvallid HUH?! Zvallid actually replied to me, cool mate.
      You can actually do a retcon in the next episode since you haven't delved into the American Presidents yet, you only mentioned them.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +8

      @@NewDealChief sure, there will be a prequel

  • @tristanharvu665
    @tristanharvu665 2 года назад +35

    Definitely one of the more convincing Axis victories scenarios I've seen, more so than even Thousand Week Reich. Only real complaint is the construction of Germania.

  • @walker68175
    @walker68175 3 года назад +354

    Impressive. Just impressive. I see you have followed the "separate World Wars" path where Japan and America is independent from the Allies and Axis.
    You are a warrior my friend. You are talented. You deserve more subs and recognition.

  • @amak1131
    @amak1131 3 года назад +152

    Honestly, depending how things unfolded this world may arguably be "more" stable. No North Korea, no Israel so less reason to get pissed at supporting them...

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +46

      no israel does not mean that the arabs will stay quite as switzerland

    • @CrownVictoria-zl6dh
      @CrownVictoria-zl6dh 3 года назад +6

      @@zvallid You're probably right just look at Syria and Afghanistan

    • @estoniaboodoingmapping1095
      @estoniaboodoingmapping1095 3 года назад +8

      @@zvallid yeah,because Saudi exists,but i think Saudis will go bankrupt because no israel= bigger UAR

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 3 года назад +7

      Not gonna happen..the middle east have a two faced sword terrorism ....quite ironic how these arab countries fund them against each another on radical ideology ..while being islamic Emirate and islamic republic

    • @estoniaboodoingmapping1095
      @estoniaboodoingmapping1095 3 года назад +6

      @@abhaypatel4292 no Israel would cause Islamic Extremism/Whaabism to be weaker due to the Presence of a bigger Ba'athist United Arab Republic(or Kingdom,whatever) and snice that UAE would have Egypt,Syria,Palestine,Lybia,Iraq,Jordan,Qatar,Bhairain,UAE and Oman(Maybe Tunisia too),would be more richer than Saudis,i am sure that is more problable to UAR to fund Ba'athist Rebels on the Saudi than a Whaabist Uprising on UAR

  • @chloroxbleach8561
    @chloroxbleach8561 3 года назад +109

    "To save the Village, we had to destroy the Village" -american General in Vietnam

    • @raptordoniv6779
      @raptordoniv6779 3 года назад +12

      I expect that the SS will have a similar line of thought as well.

    • @deisk2707
      @deisk2707 3 года назад +13

      @@raptordoniv6779 oh come on, the SS is not that american

    • @GoldMoonGuy
      @GoldMoonGuy 2 года назад +7

      @@deisk2707 they would send shit ton of fat tanks and weird looking jet planes there.

    • @imperialguardsman5929
      @imperialguardsman5929 2 года назад +1

      @@deisk2707 spam fatass tigers and literally steamroll entire villages with them

    • @businessproyects2615
      @businessproyects2615 2 года назад

      "Good job Mr Idiot!, thank you for your service!"

  • @Embaucador_3224
    @Embaucador_3224 3 года назад +43

    I have been waiting for a new video for so much time, and I can say that the wait was worth it.

  • @gaga3389
    @gaga3389 3 года назад +33

    I am Korean and really suprised that you knew about the communist revolt in Jeju Island

    • @grimmshredsanguinus2915
      @grimmshredsanguinus2915 2 года назад

      Everyone know about that but few talk about it as usual

    • @utkarshg.bharti9714
      @utkarshg.bharti9714 2 года назад

      You’re honorary white as a Korean so they will pay attention to you.

    • @perineo2231
      @perineo2231 2 года назад

      @@utkarshg.bharti9714 what do you mean?

  • @ljera23
    @ljera23 3 года назад +10

    glad to see that this video didnt get removed by youtube immediately

    • @volactic5240
      @volactic5240 3 года назад

      What do you think about Hitler

  • @MrMart374
    @MrMart374 2 года назад +7

    The cliffhanger is amazing. When will you have part 2 ready, because I can’t wait for it to come out. I think you are a brilliant writer for alternate history.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @LT.KiraHertling1701
    @LT.KiraHertling1701 3 года назад +37

    Absolutely amazing, this video is a real work of art. A Cold War between the United States, the Axis and the Soviet Union is amazing but what would be cooler would be a Cold War between the United States and the German Empire after an Imperial Germany victory in World War II would be with the United States as your ally, it would be a much more interesting world.

    • @AK-sk2jw
      @AK-sk2jw 3 года назад +2

      I presume you meant WW1. And yes that would be interesting!

  • @nickterzo.4323
    @nickterzo.4323 3 года назад +33

    Great video! One of the best I've ever contributed to develop! GREAT ZVALLID!

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +3

      thank you for the help! I credit you at the end

  • @uselesstable3031
    @uselesstable3031 2 года назад +1

    "Soviet Union and China are the only communist states in the world"
    Mongolia: am i a joke to you

  • @gungner6166
    @gungner6166 3 года назад +33

    Amazing video and accuracy, much more realistic than "som history networks shows" would depict.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +9

      thank you!

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +1

      @Mic van ziol what if the germans had fought the vietnam war

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад

      @Mic van ziol in a month or two

  • @mikailallison7739
    @mikailallison7739 3 года назад +21

    Absolutely brilliant my friend, great work.

  • @Just_a_Skaven_on_the_internet
    @Just_a_Skaven_on_the_internet 2 года назад +1

    Time traveler: *kicks a rock*
    The time line:

  • @XLHeavyD999
    @XLHeavyD999 3 года назад +27

    Zvallid another great video. You should really contact or try to find a good scenario writer and make this into a mini series and try to sell it to the History channel. This is just gold.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +4

      thank you, happy you like it

  • @leebalmforth2269
    @leebalmforth2269 3 года назад +80

    Absolutely brilliant my friend. I can see how much work goes into your content. Keep up the good work 👍

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +14

      happy you like it

  • @SPAnComCat
    @SPAnComCat 10 месяцев назад +3

    This is an Interesting Scenario!

  • @leo13246
    @leo13246 3 года назад +16

    Pov: you are a Bulgarian and a 9 year old is controlling the nation
    What the hell boi

  • @matthewssilva4781
    @matthewssilva4781 3 года назад +15

    6:10 Ah yes Speer is my man, based Dengist hours

  • @ringmeister_
    @ringmeister_ 3 года назад +9

    "The UN is never formed, and it is not missed."
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @LordBackuro
    @LordBackuro 2 года назад +5

    One thing is sure technology would be far more interesting in this world than in ours.

  • @nahtatroll
    @nahtatroll 3 года назад +6

    Nice work & thanks for putting my voice in. Hopefully RUclips doesn't take it down this time.

    • @nahtatroll
      @nahtatroll 3 года назад +1

      @@user-eh2jr3rd4x 2:42

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +1

      thank you for the help! I credit you at the end of the video

  • @emanuele_074
    @emanuele_074 3 года назад +12

    This is exactly what have been waiting for

    • @madman026
      @madman026 3 года назад +1

      you are still alive in this one:)

    • @emanuele_074
      @emanuele_074 3 года назад +1

      @@madman026 still alive with an empire

  • @samuelobrien9267
    @samuelobrien9267 3 года назад +18

    Fucking love this channel keep up the great work. Unfortunate how RUclips is nowadays but still a great video nonetheless

  • @MominEnjoyer
    @MominEnjoyer 2 года назад +2

    "They sent the first human into space, Peter Müller"
    "Nein Kertz, tu das nicht Kertz."

  • @arhanrahi9221
    @arhanrahi9221 3 года назад +31

    At the end
    "A war is starting"
    Gave me real chills
    Edit: grammar

  • @Chrischi3TutorialLPs
    @Chrischi3TutorialLPs 3 года назад +14

    I doubt that germany would keep launching from Peenemünde for long. With or without Wernher von Braun on their side, it wouldnt take them long to figure out that you want to go as close to the equator as possible when launching rockets (You save a bit of fuel when going close to the equator, as you get more starting velocity from the earth doing so, plus it has a number of practical advantages), so they would eventually start building up a position in southern bavaria or even in austria, maybe even try to convince italy to let them build it in their colonies in africa. (This is also why the US launches its rockets from southern Florida, even though Florida isn't exactly a very industrial area compared to, say, Chicago, and why the Soviets launched their rockets from Baikonour, even though it is in the middle of nowhere, far away from any majorly industrialized regions)

  • @pitertauer3168
    @pitertauer3168 3 года назад +10

    Finally, i looked forward to this
    Great job as always
    P.S. if the war started in 1939 and ended in 1946, it lasted 7 years

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +1

      you are right

  • @BattleshipOrion
    @BattleshipOrion 2 месяца назад +1

    YO, not gonna lie, that missile in the opening few seconds looks cool AF.

  • @akoskari42
    @akoskari42 2 года назад +42

    I made my own scenario back in the days and wrote it in a word document. I lost it a couple of years ago, and began wondering again of a Nazi world after WW2.
    Your video is very accurate and detailed. Much respect.

  • @USAMogle
    @USAMogle 3 года назад +6

    this channel deserves WAY MORE subs.

  • @darrelarno9151
    @darrelarno9151 3 года назад +6

    A good alternate timeline, with a superb presentation, this video is so well made that the waiting for part 2 physically hurts me.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +1

      a month or two

  • @ItsSamHussey
    @ItsSamHussey Год назад +1

    The best way I can imagine an alternate Cold War is if Operation Sea Lion succeeded in September 1940, knocking Britain out of the war more than a whole year before the US joined.
    When the USSR was invaded, I imagine the war lasting a further couple of years.
    When Japan finally attacks Pearl harbour the Third Reich decides not to declare war.
    Around 1943 / 1944 the USSR would collapse. And wether or not Japan wins against the US remains to be seen. (Probably not).
    A Cold War would emerge between capitalist America and fascist Europe with the third Reich collapsing similar the USSR in our timeline sometime in the 80’s / 90’s.

  • @acegabrielcruz3687
    @acegabrielcruz3687 3 года назад +4

    The Vietnamese will never expect the blitzkrieg tactic

  • @Thejerusalemhascome
    @Thejerusalemhascome 3 года назад +6

    This video is awesome! Very well made and I truly enjoyed it. Unfortunate this only has 100k views. Deserves way more

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +1

      thank you!

  • @nicboy8082
    @nicboy8082 3 года назад +4

    I love how he even mentions germainia

  • @hubanimations
    @hubanimations Год назад +1

    I still think "Thousand Week Reich" is the better scenario with "The New Order: Last Days of Europe" right behind it.

  • @meekonvadaameh
    @meekonvadaameh 3 года назад +6

    Honestly? One of your best videos. Keep up the effort.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +1

      thank you!

  • @ball2497
    @ball2497 2 года назад +16

    this is probably one of the most realistic alt histories ive seen, i like how you didnt fully make it that germany demolishes every other country as thats just unthinkable. Nice video!

    • @unnamedchannel1237
      @unnamedchannel1237 2 года назад

      What about “man on the high castle”

    • @ball2497
      @ball2497 2 года назад

      @@unnamedchannel1237 watched it before, but the first 2 seasons are good I couldn't be asked with the last 2

  • @mah2418
    @mah2418 2 года назад +2

    Very beautiful and well detailed.
    And Thanks for persian subtitles!

  • @charmknight7171
    @charmknight7171 2 года назад +4

    "The Waffen SS move to saigon"

  • @gundam5281
    @gundam5281 3 года назад +5

    This video is absolutely phenomenal. 100/10

  • @Levit7
    @Levit7 8 месяцев назад +6

    the perfect world

  • @robertalaverdov8147
    @robertalaverdov8147 3 года назад +7

    4:24 Just one Guerilla is fighting for the communists in Greece. It could only be Harambe's grandpa!

  • @xenogen
    @xenogen 3 года назад +6

    Can't wait for the next part 💯👍

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +2

      a month or two

    • @リミ-e1q
      @リミ-e1q 3 года назад +2

      Seriously? Lol, awesome. So many questions to consider! Would USSR collapse even sooner. How strong a united Korea would be. Would Japan be even more advanced after surviving 11 nukes. So many questions!

    • @blauwbeer556
      @blauwbeer556 3 года назад +1

      @@リミ-e1q a united korea wouldn´t be that strong, would just be a slightly richer korea. a unified korea today would be better because the 2 countries went on different paths. now north korea is a military powerhouse and south korea is an economic powerhouse, combine them together and you have a country as rich as most first world countries but unlike most first world countries, the military would also be super impressive. but if korea was unified from the start then there wouldn´t be 2 different direction to head onwards. it would just be economicly strong while relying on the US for protection.

  • @giantskeleton2418
    @giantskeleton2418 2 года назад +2

    Good content, keep it up.

  • @oitubeman1019
    @oitubeman1019 3 года назад +5

    Great video!
    my only criticism is that there is no way the germans will give up whatever they’ve taken.

    • @thecybranchild1768
      @thecybranchild1768 3 года назад +1

      that's what I was thinking I still think its a good video but this video is more complete fantasy As soon as he said Germany agrees to give up the territory they took I paused the video and said that would never happen.

    • @oitubeman1019
      @oitubeman1019 3 года назад +1

      @@thecybranchild1768 also:
      -China would probably would never become communist
      -There would be a Free French regime in French Equatorial Africa
      -South Africa would be a Nazi ally
      -Anything east of the A-A line would be German
      -The British Empire would be something like what the French Empire has become
      thats all the corrections he would need to do

    • @thecybranchild1768
      @thecybranchild1768 3 года назад

      @@oitubeman1019 agreed the idea that German would give up land goes against the very war itself and in order to do this you would need to get rid of the people in power in Germany I posted a larger discussion with other problems present I think the video is fine but it is complete fantasy and ignores factors of why things happened like they did

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад

      they have puppets in the east

    • @thecybranchild1768
      @thecybranchild1768 3 года назад

      @@zvallid a couple puppets doesnt mean give up everything im sure they would puppet regions in the balkans but to give up all that living space in Ukraine and Russia I cant see that ever happening

  • @zacharyomar9091
    @zacharyomar9091 3 года назад +4

    I really like the show. Impressive. You should gain more support.
    Keep making this kind of content. And please continue this timeline.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +2

      thank you! there will be another video on this timeline

  • @InsanePyroid
    @InsanePyroid Год назад +1

    props to the camera man for going back in time, getting into an invisible plane and filming famous battles

  • @marshallgrek997
    @marshallgrek997 3 года назад +17

    I like how you use real historical footage to describe alternative historical events. And the cool thing os, that it is believable.

  • @GiR1854
    @GiR1854 Месяц назад +2

    Also the Germans would never retreat from the occupied territories after they lost so much soldiers conquering those lands

  • @matthewssilva4781
    @matthewssilva4781 3 года назад +14

    This strongly reminds me of TWR, like, Japan lost, and Germany won.

    • @IceAlvaro13
      @IceAlvaro13 3 года назад +1

      TWR?

    • @racist4595
      @racist4595 3 года назад +1

      shitty hoi4 mod

    • @AshGamer007
      @AshGamer007 3 года назад +3

      @@IceAlvaro13 Thousands Week Reich. A "realistic" axis victory mod for the game Hearts of Iron IV.

  • @Brandon-yk6xc
    @Brandon-yk6xc 3 года назад +5

    As always Zvallid you've done a fantastic Job your the best! Also more like Japan got their ass kicked harder than in our timeline!

  • @AnonymousSilence-nd3zb
    @AnonymousSilence-nd3zb Год назад +2

    The only real part of this scenario I question the realism of is the use of atomic bombs.
    While I can see the plausibility of using more than 2 bombs on Japan in the event that the Empire refused to surrender, we have to consider some things:
    The Manhattan Project was started in 1939, 2 years prior to the U.S. entry into the war in our timeline, and 3 years before its entry in this one. However, despite this, it was explicitly intended to be used on Germany first in response to the rumors of their own nuclear weapons program, which never came to full fruition. Plus, the project leading up to the Trinity test was a joint collaboration between the U.S. and U.K., with the U.K. needing to approve our use of the bomb before we dropped the Little Boy on Hiroshima. The U.K., with U.S. approval, would have likely used the bomb towards the end of 1945 in runs on German-held territories and cities. Even if the U.S. never goes to war with Germany, as in this timeline, I question the likelihood of them only using the bomb on Japan. The only reason this happened in our timeline was because the conditions of the period allowed it to happen. Germany and Italy were defeated and Japan was the last Axis state left standing. Plus, the Allies were exhausted from island hopping in the Pacific. Nobody had any real objections to using the bomb outside its original intended purpose.
    Other than that, very interesting scenario.

  • @TheLGNDRY-go9hu
    @TheLGNDRY-go9hu 2 года назад +4

    6:56 why does this looks like Hollywood movie super villain’s palace?

  • @carlosbarqro
    @carlosbarqro 2 года назад +4

    Video idea: what if the us decided to attack first to japan?
    For example: during China invasion japan took down an us plane which was carrying supplies to the Chinese United front army, with American pilots in there making the us have an excuse to go war with japan and preventing Pearl Harbour attack

  • @kellenjervis2632
    @kellenjervis2632 Год назад +2

    Can you just make a video going deeper into how WW2 ended?

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  Год назад +1

      i want to make a video on how should be life culture music in case of axis victory

  • @enrixosjjdjd187
    @enrixosjjdjd187 3 года назад +5

    Soviets would have never accepted such a peace, and the US would have joined nonthenless. Interesting headcannon tho

    • @StackerBA
      @StackerBA 3 года назад

      Yeah not sure why soviets are taking what is basically total defeat in a stalemate. They threw back the whole German offensive before kend lease was at its peak.

  • @bananajoe3669
    @bananajoe3669 3 года назад +39

    Me as a german enjoyed the video and sometimes I had to laugh a little. (As example: The first satellite in space, the german "Siegfried 1" 😂👍)
    I'm sorry for that. 😔
    But yes, I was entertained well. 😀

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +6

      why not sigfried?

    • @Adronyth
      @Adronyth 2 года назад +1

      @@zvallid why not Brunhilde

    • @Future183
      @Future183 2 года назад +4

      @@zvallid for modern germans are names like hans, peter ,müller or siegfired very weird cause that are old names nobody in germany named his child hans today lol

    • @Alternatives_Universum
      @Alternatives_Universum 2 года назад

      @@Future183 Well, the names are not that weird. Those are just our traditional names. You can still name your child that way if you want to.

    • @prosterdbz9663
      @prosterdbz9663 2 года назад

      @@Future183 Well, it would probably fit in the 50's.

  • @warrendesonia7924
    @warrendesonia7924 2 года назад +1

    Very Well Done; Please Continue.....

  • @Twocat5side
    @Twocat5side 3 года назад +4

    4:41 ahh the glorious India makes me want to cry

    • @gumdeo
      @gumdeo 3 года назад +1

      United India, best India.

    • @Twocat5side
      @Twocat5side 3 года назад +2

      @@gumdeo Also thiccc India

  • @riyan0418
    @riyan0418 2 года назад +6

    hey zvallid i have a request. Can you make an alternative history of Japan helping Germany invade the Soviets and not attack Pearl Harobur. thank you

  • @WaterYoshi
    @WaterYoshi 2 года назад +2

    I didnt know that there was a removed part in this video. Thanks RUclips.... -_-
    The deleted clip started at 17:28 and ended at 18:58
    The scene was replaced.

  • @rayw3294
    @rayw3294 3 года назад +4

    Great videos mate. There were great people everywhere. But everyone call US and UK people racist? Why do they do that?

  • @RamboArminius1
    @RamboArminius1 3 года назад +4

    Looking forward to a sequel. I’m curious to see what actions the United States is going to take since North Vietnam is an ally to the Russians (like in our timeline) and South Vietnam is a ally to the Germans.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  3 года назад +2

      I think USa will be a silent ally of North Vietnam

    • @Theoss-sl1fk
      @Theoss-sl1fk 2 года назад

      @@zvallid then North Vietnam would still have a chance to win

  • @antoniothegunexpert5955
    @antoniothegunexpert5955 5 месяцев назад +2

    Did they create any new tanks?would they have used the standardized E-series or designed new,different tanks,or just modernized the old ones...but i hope its a combination of the first two

  • @donthaveagoodusername5345
    @donthaveagoodusername5345 3 года назад +28

    I’ve only got one thing to say:
    YAY

  • @spookith
    @spookith 2 года назад +1

    The only thing I don't like about this video is the fact that it isn't longer you my good sirs* make amazing content

  • @radioactiveassassin5218
    @radioactiveassassin5218 2 года назад +1

    I can picture Cuban crisis happening between Soviets and Germans.

  • @richie9410
    @richie9410 3 года назад +6

    This was an epic story
    Can't wait for a part 2

  • @ahoraya1047
    @ahoraya1047 2 года назад +2

    Given his age, Hitler would have died anyway in the 60s. Then, with demographic growth, less emigration and the assimilation of several lands, the population of Germany would have been about 150 million people by now.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +1

      may be you are right

    • @ahoraya1047
      @ahoraya1047 2 года назад +1

      @@zvallid same way as happened in Spain, where Franco died in 1975 (he was younger than Hitler) It is possible that after Hitler, in Germany there would be a democracy, but with a population of 150-200 million people and an area of over 1 million sq. km. Same way as the U.S. or Australia, the new democratic Government would say one day that they are sorry for the destruction caused in the past by the colonial forces. Native nations of the new colonized lands would be called "Native Germans". Most of them would become German-speaking and would have German names....but, same way as Australia or the U.S., Germany wouldn´t return a single sq. km. of land to the "Natives". The remaining Natives which had not been assimilated or exterminated, would have received lands for their management (reservations) and would build casinos.

  • @simeonwood3613
    @simeonwood3613 2 года назад +4

    As Margret thatcher said: "If Europe had been neutral the nazis would have won, if the world had stayed neutral the Soviets would have won."
    Meaby I missed something or misremembered. Sry

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад

      Indeed, europe lost

    • @simeonwood3613
      @simeonwood3613 2 года назад +1

      @@zvallid they didn't lose... Europe didn't stay neutral that's why the British empire intervened!

  • @patrickflynn6423
    @patrickflynn6423 2 года назад +2

    If Germany waited another five years before going to war it would have been a totally different world today .

  • @hydrodrift
    @hydrodrift 3 года назад +14

    “The US could use its full might against Japan” drop 9 nukes on japan and ends the war in 1946.
    I mean the nukes I agree with cause their war crimes were horrible
    Ok, what this comment meant was how did the U.S use 9 nukes and ended the war in 1946? THEY USED 9!!!!

    • @DUSTKILLL
      @DUSTKILLL 3 года назад +16

      It's only a war crime if you lose 😉

    • @hydrodrift
      @hydrodrift 3 года назад +3

      @@DUSTKILLL got a point lol

    • @robertevbayekha6639
      @robertevbayekha6639 3 года назад

      Why didn’t they use it on Germany

    • @ChiipGames
      @ChiipGames 3 года назад +1

      Every single nations soldiers, did horrible warcrimes in the war, but the winner gets to shove it under the rug, while the loser gets exposed to shame them into submission for years to come.

    • @hydrodrift
      @hydrodrift 3 года назад +1

      @@ChiipGames japan didn’t even pay for there war crimes the US just let it go

  • @jerrelhurenkamp5251
    @jerrelhurenkamp5251 2 года назад +1

    Germania looks like a city planner nightmare.

  • @tylercates8165
    @tylercates8165 2 года назад +4

    Something tells me he is not a fan of the UN.

    • @ruka.3217
      @ruka.3217 2 года назад

      You mean the american way to controll the world?

    • @erichamilton5932
      @erichamilton5932 Год назад

      Who is? It's a globalist/colonialist project that's hostile to race, ethnicity, culture, the sexes, and sovereign nation states.

  • @poqrikhelix7150
    @poqrikhelix7150 2 года назад +2

    What I wonder is what the hell happened in the Polish border negotiations. The Nazis would definitely push for being allowed to annex large border strips, (just google ‘Nazi Germany map’. I can see the allies protesting this annexation, but I don’t think anything would actually successfully be done about it. And in the East Poland keeps a lot more land than seems reasonable, given the fact that this land could be given to a much friendlier to Germany Belarus and Ukraine.

  • @rvostudio390
    @rvostudio390 2 года назад +2

    i like how ever diffent timeline japan always lose

  • @SMJ738
    @SMJ738 2 года назад +3

    It’s December 7 1941 not 1942

  • @DavidB1124
    @DavidB1124 2 года назад +1

    Thanks lord for another video!

  • @jasonwaters382
    @jasonwaters382 2 года назад +2

    Very interesting. It is all quite intriguing. It does leave out what the US would have done having invented nuclear bombs and the means to deliver them first. But it goes to show history could have unfolded in many ways. We are very fortunate.

  • @Yvory6
    @Yvory6 2 месяца назад +1

    The Germans would have been the first on the Moon, they already had the Rocket Science. USA and Russia would not get that from them so they would be late. I don't think it would end in a stalemate, the UK would have failed at some point allowing them to put the bulk of their forces on the Soviets, crushing them with Japan from both side.

  • @BrunoHenrique-ff5ps
    @BrunoHenrique-ff5ps 2 года назад +1

    I think that in this cenario the USSR would have become a mixed system even before China itself and allied itself with the west to counter the Axis, so It would probably survive until this day

  • @legodarthvader6629
    @legodarthvader6629 2 года назад +2

    This should be the after math of the video what if the United States joined the axis