Why Don't Real Madrid Produce Any Great Players?
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2023
- Real Madrid are arguably the biggest club in world football, their academy is among the largest and best-funded on the planet, and they have more former youth team players competing in La Liga and Europe's top five leagues as a whole than any other club.
There's just one small problem... They haven't actually produced any truly great players for the last 20 years.
So in this video, HITC Sevens takes a look at the dearth of world class talent to have come out of Real Madrid's La Fábrica youth ranks since the days of Raúl and Iker Casillas, the reasons behind that anomaly, especially in relation to their El Clasico rivals Barcelona & La Masia, and why Real Madrid don't actually seem to mind.
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An academy that is almost mainly designed to produce players to be sold to other clubs for healthy profits is pretty mind-blowing; it's not necessarily a bad thing, just quite shocking
not bad for the club, but its bad for the youth players, getting coached with no intention of them making the first team.
@@dxfault576well it's good for them if all they want is to go pro
@@dxfault576it’s not bad at all. There are a lot of players in football that don’t graduate from their teams academy. Regardless of making the first team or not they’ll have a career elsewhere.
Man city are doing it now as well
That is the case for literally every academy in the world. How many Ajax academy graduates are sold compared to how many make it into Ajax's first team? A lot.
Real Madrid youth Academy athletes know they have a really low chance to reach main team, but they enjoy top tier world class mentorship
world class that’s why spain had 0 world cups until barca’s golden era came along
@@franze4 sure, but did i said something against barça in my comment?
premier league has some of the best, better equiped, most expensive academys and England still fails to get a world cup. Having something does not really needs to includes the other.
@@jairlevy no but the point is thanks to that mindset spain for the most part doesn’t produce players to the same caliber as germany italy france or even england
I think this is true bc Madrid has always had the galáctico mentality on just buying the best players per position but they do sell a lot of players to la liga teams
@@jairlevythat’s because the Prem is carried by foreign talent. Those picked for England usually play for the Prem’s top 6 and, there’s not really a lot of competition once players have proved themselves at their club or, in Pickford’s case for England.
Plus, the golden generation from 2004-2010 failed to win anything because the players were too competitive and refused to work together in fear of losing premier league games
Achraf Hakimi is the only world class player I can currently think of to have come out of Madrid and Madrid immediately sold him after he became a sensation at Dortmund
Marcos Llorente is also very good
Odegaard
@@nscrenrique not an real academy player. Strømsgodset is his youth academy
@@bnb6868 ahh I see
Iker Casillas
Carvajal was seriously underrated at his prime
Only idiots would rate him lowly. His only issue was persistent injuries. When fit we was top 3 easy.
Just lacking the defensive side. But good all around. Many good games in the 3 peat
The best player in the real madrid academy since Casillas..so the best one for two decades was a right back a position that is not that impactful on the play..barca produced Messi,xavi,Iniesta, busquets,Fabregas,Pique,alba,Pedro,Puyol in the same decade 😂
@@elmehdinafia1237 A RB not impactful on play. Guess Dani Alves was rubbish.
@@elmehdinafia1237a RB is not impactful?
Are you going mad?
The current La Fabricia players in RM are; Carvajal, Nacho, Lucas Vazquez, Fran Garcia and Joselu. Some other current La Fabricia players in other clubs are; Morata, Hakimi, Marcos Alonso, Marcos Llorente, Sergio Reguilon, Dani Parejo to name some. Ødegaard also spent like two years in Castilla. Mostly because he wanted to be trained by Zidane at the time he joined them. Juan Mata, Samuel Eto'o, Arbeloa and Diego Lopez also comes from La Fabricia. And Raul, Casillas and Guti are obviously considered club royalty. In the 2003/04 season, 10 players from the La Fabricia was in the squad.
And Pablo Sarabia!
So true!
Exactly Lmao…..they produce a lot of good players…
Yep…, right after they left they became world class players like Hakimi and Marcos Llorente, Lucas Vazquez is a ok role player like joselu, not at Real Madrid level tho
Odegaard was already sixteen when he moved to Real, i wouldn't consider him an academy player even if he played a year there
Damn, Real's youth academy looks like a 5-star resort. In Amsterdam, the foreign youth football players stay with simple Dutch host families from the working class. Such As; Vermaelen, Erikson, Dolberg, Alderweireld, Černý, Vertonghen, Pienaar, and many others. Ajax has a total of 75 host families who care for Dutch and foreign players until the age of 18.
Sounds lekker boet
So there are many ways to do it. Some clubs own houses where the kids stay.
That's actually amazing!
As a benfiquista it hurts me to know that we made the most money with our youngsters and still can't be as successful as we should be
Ao menos é um recorde para ter orgulho, ver o encarnado em todo lado.
You mean winning the champions league?
@@antoniokf5productions eu quero taças!!! Os euros para mim sem vitórias não servem para nada.
@@friedrichnietzsche2557 That's the objective but the first step would be to win 8 portuguese leagues in 10 years. If you look back in the last few years we won as much as Porto, a club who is broke and needed UEFA's help.....
@@lourencopedro1 As an American I want to sit here a laugh my ass off. The Europeans bitch at us constantly for not having pro/rel, etc., while the same time their leagues and clubs are drowning in debt and unable to afford anything. Meanwhile over here in the MLS, which is the same as the 2nd tier of European Leagues, they pull in $1.55 Billion, has only a minuscule $500 million in debt, and owners that use private equity financing. In addition, we have a hard salary cap that limit player salaries to a manageable level. Whose way of structuring their league works financially better?
You forgot to add the La Quinta del Buitre era in the 1980s which kickstarted when Real Madrid Castilla reached a Copa Del Rey final in 1980 which is unprecedented in football history amongst top clubs, and guess who they faced in the final? Oh yes, they faced the first team of Real Madrid and lost the final. It resulted that most of the squad of Castilla was promoted into the first team which included Emilio Butrageno, Manolo Sanchis, Michel etc, pretty much over 80 percent of the entire Real Madrid first team squad in the 80s was homegrown players and they won 5 consecutive La ligas as well which is a domestic record including a European cup final. Their model was similar to Barca during that time, the thing is Real Madrid quickly realized that model is not sustainable in the long run. It's not everyday you will find exceptional players coming through the ranks, therefore their current model is a better one from experience. Barca was pretty much lucky with Puyol, Messi, Iniesta, Xavi etc all coming from nearly the same generation. These kinds of players doesn't grow on a tree and before 2006 pretty much no one even talked about the success of La Masia, in fact on the contrary they where focused on buying stars, take their dream team of the early 90s as a clear example. In any case, great analysis.
Sounds exactly like what happened to Manchester United. After and Before the Class of 92, not many talents came through the academy, especially not at the amount like the Class of 92.
Gavi Balde Lamine , Araujo, Fati,
And some others cracks is on the way at Barcelona, Pau Curbasie will be a great player, Pau Prim .
@@fabricepierre986dont think araujo counts since he wasnt really homegrown. But add fermin lopez there too
@@fabricepierre986araujo, balde and fati is shiit now😂 only gavi and yamal
Since we lack a proper number 9 in our first team, except for Joselu. I think it presents a rare chance for players like Alvaro Rodriguez to earn a spot in the first team and receive more playtime than they may have previously expected. However, the ultimate decision lies with Ancelotti. 🤔
It's a rare chance because we don't have any great striker at our disposal since Benzema's departure & Ancelotti used most of Madrid's budget in purchasing midfielders this season.
Funny enough, Joselu is also a former La Fabrica player
Joselu is a joke 😂😂😂😂 Jude from the midfield is more of a scorer than this plumber Joselu..the academy players are all farmers..the best striker in the past two decades from the academy was Morata just to give you the picture lol
@@elmehdinafia1237why don’t you go play for Madrid then and make the starting team
That´s because Florentino Pérez refused to sign Kane or any other worthy forwards in the hopes that Mbappe would finally join.
1) Mbappe can play as a 9 but it´s a complete wasate to put him there given how much he can give you on the left wing.
2) Of how much use can Mbappe be if you already have Vini who is top 5 in the world at that section and there are many others, like the entire defense line for instance, who are not even close?
3) Signing Mbappe would mean putting the entire club on mortgage. No matter what the media wants to tell you (we all know who gives them the envelope), Real Madrid doesn´t have 5 bucks to save its life.
4) Mbappe is a player that can turn your entire locker to shreds just with his presence, he is bound to become a toxic self-absorbed leader.
But yeah, I´d love to see al Torito on the squad, as a uruguayan. No clue why Ancelotti doesn´t even give him a few minutes in this circumstances and instead puts Rodrygo, who is as apt as a 9 in Real Madrid as you, me, or Ancelotti himself.
Many reports from the club say that Real Madrid might be shifting to actually using players from the academy in the future - it's becoming much more difficult to compete financially with English and Arab clubs, so the board believes it might be more profitable to actually spend that money into the development of homegrown players - they have already decided to transfer younger players in to develop them at the club instead of buying big stars (with some exceptions) for that same reason, and now they might take it a step further
Definitely makes sense.
Home-grown players are too easy to get entitled, MU, Chelsea. Even Madrid had a case with Guti.
I don't think Real madrid has ever struggled with funds. Being consistently named the highest value club and highest earning is a good indication. Furthermore, the Madrid pulling power is insane. "Competing" with english and arab clubs has never been an issue. There could be someone that's offered higher pay from let's say man city or psg, but the player is more likely to pick Real Madrid (If they made an offer) simply because of their status and for the potential that the player might see for their own career.
@@HK1_11 as you said they HAVE never struggled with money, but its mostly because of good money management - Barca has similar revenue but still went into debt - at some point that wont be enough, judging by how much more popular Premier League gets, and how much Arab money is being invested in some clubs - you have to switch tactics if you want to survive
This is why I like Fc Barcelona more with how they give chance to the young players by letting them play with teaching them to play the tiki taka style of football. I dont get why Real Madrid fans were booing Gareth Bale and Cristiano Ronaldo, when didnt Real Madrid 2016/17 season have the best football team they have ever had in its history, so they won the Champions League three times in row at that time, so were the loser Real Madrid fans ungrateful for booing their own players. Bartomeu seems to be the worst Fc Barcelona president in its history, when he went with the same strategy as Real Madrid, but he was just so bad at it, that he nearly put Fc Barcelona to bankrupcy.
Their youth academy is South America.
Dark Lord Perez is basically a Football Manager player.
Brazil mostly, Uruguay maybe second and the rest are hardly noticed
The timing is crazy with this video release and the recent news about Real Madrid academy players💀
that was 3 players from the hundreds in the academy, mate.. hold your horses
Once again, 5:35 AM this time, here at my nation of Joga Bonito enjoyers, just about to sleep like usual and the HITC banger strikes. Love you, Alfie. Thanks for the quality 🖤
Madrid's youth teams dominate all competitions just like Barça's do. They both aim to play an attacking, possession based style of football and are able to control games from start to finish. The difference is that Barca's is much more specific and clearly defined and players are specialised within certain roles. On top of that, the style/system remains the same at 1st team level. This means that if a top player comes in an academy player can compete for a place because they've been trained to play their role from a young age. Madrid's 1st team change the way they play based on the coach and their best players making the adaption process too big of a jump for young players.
We mustn't forget that young players need time to develop to reach their best level in pro football. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and co. didn't become stars overnight. They had the fundamentals required to snap up a chance to play in the 1st team and from there they went from strength to strength. This is probably the reason why Barça have dominated Spanish football in recent years but only elite teams filled with elite players can consistently deliver the Champions League. Madrid's obsession and entire purpose for existing.
madrid academy always wins agnaist barca academy
@@roniee357You are delusional.
@@roniee357so what? Even I. Castilla they put young talents bought from other clubs just to see how they perform and adapt well and for that they have to maintain that level. For barca it's just player development from grassroot level and pick few who performs well and because of that it's okay for them to loose and relegate to below tier.
no they dont..u r in a dreamland du*my😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@roniee357
"It's not personal, it's strictly business"
Love how you included a Godfather's quote to describe the culture at Real Madrid
When you have a pull as strong as Real Madrid producing players probably isn't as big a priority as it would be for those clubs that have no option but to produce players and selling them on for profit which the likes of Ajax and Benfica have been doing for years now
Madrid don't have pull, they have money.
That's it
@@geribenkougeki Real Madrid has arguably the biggest pull of any club in the world what are you waffling about?
@@chiggsy7313Barcelona too
@@geribenkougekiIm by no means a Real Madrid fan but they have the biggest pull thanks to their history of champions league
barca has lesser pull and lesser money than madrid, you can keep crying about. They also have less league titles, champions leagues and trophies than real madrid, only thing barca can boast over madrid is they have a better academy @@geribenkougeki
I think Negredo and Juan Mata were great prospects and they did really well at the clubs they played for, especially Mata. I would’ve loved to see make a comeback in 2011-2015.
As much as I prefer Real over Barça in Spain overall, I prefer the Barça approach when it comes to the academy.
While both approaches are valid since they dominate in Spain and Europe, the Barça way feels better because an academy player should be designed to play for the first team first and foremost. Of course, they had exceptions like Fabregas or Piqué who started their pro careers abroad but it should remain an exception, not the norm.
But it works for Real Madrid, so I'm not gonna tell them to change their approach.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Even then, Fábregas and Piqué were La Masía products that came back to play and be successful with Barcelona.
@@Enoxificatti they did. I forgot to add that important part.
I don't know man, Madrid is about winning, and also a bit of a brand. If we did that we would have to focus on a style of play so that the youth team could easily fit into the team. And big signings get a lot of attention, and I think that's a part of the Madrid DNA. We normally don't want adjustment periods for young players, we want to win all the time.
I think it's perfect, plus it makes a lot of money, and we take the select few into the first team.
@@adytiohardianto5496u are extremely wrong, the academy is the reason they have a chance of getting out of this mess, if they had to go and buy, Lamine, Gavi, Ansu and Balde they wouldn't be able to get any of them cause they would be too expensive. What caused barcas problems is insane spending on salaries and transfers that led to insane amount of debt.
Barca's ideology is very uni-directional so various signed players feel difficult to adjust in Barca playstyle and chance of failure is very high.
Look at the recant Barca signings and their impact:
Raphinha 58m
Coutinho 135m
Ferran Torres 55m
Miralem Pjanic 60m
Trincão 30m
Sergiño Dest 21m
Martin Braithwaite 18m
Junior Firpo 20m
Neto 26m
Antoine Griezmann 120m
Arturo Vidal 18m
Arthur Melo 31m
Clément Lenglet 35m
Malcom 41m
Gerard Deulofeu 12m
Yerry Mina 13m
Nélson Semedo 35m
Paulinho 40m
Ousmane Dembélé 135m
Jasper Cillessen 13m
Lucas Digne 16m
Samuel Umtiti 25m
Paco Alcácer 30m
André Gomes 37m
Aleix Vidal 17m
Arda Turan 34m
So, Barca signed these players with high expectations, but they under performed and barca sold them cheaper than their joining cost.
No wonder Barca is in financial crisis right now.
It seems very difficult issue to solve for Barca.
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I have to say I applaud the amount of time and effort that goes into these videos. This Madrid one is amazingly well done!
I agree! Big up yourself Alfie ;)
This was such an interesting topic! Real certainly have a very unique philosophy towards their youth development program, and given their constant year in, year out success, who can fault them or their methods?
Was last year a successful year?
@@elmehdinafia1237 they won 3 trophies that's not bad not to mention that madrid played every single game in club football internationally and domestically except the ucl final.
I wish you had added another thought. Some young players aren't even interested in waiting for their turn to play for the first team. They make the decision to depart early because they want instant success or they realize their chances of joining the first team are slim. In these circumstances, nothing can be done. Excellent upload nonetheless. I want to see more of these kinds of videos from you.
great video, i watch all your videos and this was my favourite in a few years i reckon. since the one about the spit between east and west german teams
Amazing video. Alfie at his best doing a really deep dive into Real Madrid.
It's important to note that Real Madrid's sentiment with regards to promoting players from Castilla to the first team is potentially changing this year. The difficulty in attracting talent in the market due to the financial power of Saudi League, Qatar, Man City and some others will mean they are a bit less likely to get the best players in the world each year.
Real Madrid have already given up trying to sign players who are currently World Class. Even so; Perez cannot let go of his Galatico Strategy, hence why he's signing young players that have done enough (elsewhere) to show that they could actually be World Class one day.
@@MrSmith1984 I wouldnt said they have given up. They signed Jude Bellingham and he is already world class and have potential to end up as the best midfielder in the world for the next decade. They are also stil heavily linked with Mbappe.
@@MotRi1986
Here is the thing; while Jude Bellingham is already a excellent Midfielder, he isn't exactly in his prime yet. In fact he's kind of the perfect signing for Real Madrid in the sense that he's both good enough to play for Real Madrid and has lots of potential still.
Likewise, the only way Real Madrid can afford Mbappe is via a Free Transfer. And even then it might not be possible.
@@MrSmith1984 even though Bellingham is young and can still develope he is most definatly a world class player and a typical galactico. The price of 100mill+ € that happens to be a record sum for Real Madrid build under that argument. They also payed around 80mill € for Tchouameni last summer. Both players was chased by Liverpool and Real Madrid beat them to them.
Real can and will compete with English clubs for the right players and they have the money to do so.
Florentino would rather search in the brazilian market than in the academy (Vinicius, Rodrygo and Endrick)
So many thoughts on this vid 😅 I’ll speak as a (hopefully well informed) Madridista.
Comparing us to Barca is kind of like comparing apple and oranges : Real Madrid where founded by catalan brothers studying at the first secular university in madrid. They always had that universal and humanist vision so Real was never rooted as a truly « local » club. But their first fans came from the bullfighting crowd from the arena next to their pitch. So they only admired great men fighting like madmen on the biggest stages, and they booed plenty when they didn’t like what they were seeing. That’s our founding myth, already universal and yet very passionate (in the joy and the criticism). Very different from Barca’s...
Also saying that our squad was more academy driven when only 5 of our starters were from la fabrica is kind of bad faith, we’re in 1966 ! Way before Spain joined the EU and the Bosman act ! And yet we have only 5 starters from la fabrica ? It only proves my point ;) Real Madrid was founded and held together by great men from everywhere in the footballing world unafraid of big challenges and always wanting more. Men for whom the biggest team in their country was too small and their fellow countrymen’s shoes too tight. We should check how many captains from international teams where at real madrid, between Puskas, Kopa, Hierro, Raul, Figo, Casillas, Zidane, Ronaldo, Bale, Modric, Kroos, Alaba etc... A whole team of leaders who transform under pressure.
And what is that you say about our philosophy being « only » about winning ? That’s the whole point of the game ! And always pushing boundries in the process😊 Tiki taka ? Before Cruyff came to Barca as a player we had « la quinta del Buitre » all from the academy and all very gifted technically, loving to pass and keeping the ball. So yes we strive to win it all, everytime, but that makes us like water, capable of adapting to any situation, changing our form but not our focus. And our Academy is a reflection of that, well rounded footballers who want to give their best for their team, nothing wrong with that, they have a career, it’s a lot. Barcas academy players are all the hype and yet a lot of them cannot adapt to any other football team so when they are discarded for the first team (and that’s 95% of the young lads) they have nothing... For us being a Madridista is not tethered to a place : it’s a way of life, of excellence, just trying to be the best at what you do.
Also Florentino Perez is possibly the greatest football president in the history of football taking a club in huge financial peril and transforming it in the biggest brand in football while winning six champions leagues in the process. Obsessed with winning (as any madridista) he never took a dime but gave everything to his boyhood club. He isn’t very marketable contrary to a lot of sly club owners or presidents but his heart is in the right place and he does it out of passion not money : so he’s far from being an african dictator imo. And it’s not him asking for the name change, it’s the millions of madridistas.
And yes he was traumatized by Neymar and has Fomo now with brazilian kid but he also realized that we’re not a private club, we’re not backed by a state or a business venture capitol bank whatever, we’re rich yes, but our pockets aren’t bottomless like some other clubs, every cent we spend is a cent we make ourselves. So we need to be smart and careful, we can’t make many mistakes. So he switched from contracting the best players in the world to the best prospects and carefully assembling them with experienced players, and, for now, it’s still working and beautifully I might add.
Last thing, I love Pedri, his vision of the game, his elegance, I’m sorry about his injuries, Gabi is overhyped imo but the reason he’s admired is his tenacious and never-let-go-never-back-down attitude which is more reminescent of the 2 Madrid clubs than Barca.
PS : I’m a big fan of your videos Alfie 😮 I truly admire your never ending quality content ! Keep up the good work, thank you for the deep dives and humane angles, the world of football needs it. And don’t forget : you can be a Madridista anywhere, you just need to do your best !
couldnt have said it better I feel like we are sometimes portrayed as an evil club with no emotion which is just so far from what we feel as Madridistas whenever you listen to Florentino or our players talking about being a part of this club you feel proud its a home and not a factory and what you said here made me feel proud to be a Madridista
I respect Perez to actually learn from first Galacticos mistake, and learn again from his second Galacticos mistakes and finally has his mind and heart in right direction.
It's surprising that money-hungry and star-chaser like he was actually transformed into capable owner.
You took all the words out of my mouth buddy. Hala Madrid
😂😂 If you say so
Laporta is crazy ass heellll too but you can say the same he loves the club to death Laporta saved us 2003 hes doing it againnnnn !!!!
Hey Alfie, just wanted to say I’m enjoying your videos for a while now but lately you seem to be more humorous and appear to be having more fun while making these videos, I really like this approach and hope you continue having fun making these great videos 🙏🏼
Yo Alfie it’s 2am rn as of me watching this video. Much love for you from New Mexico bro. Been watching you for years now. Keep up the great videos
It's currently 8 o clock in Iceland. We don't produce world class footballers.
Real Madrid academy has the same issue as Boca juniors had back in the 1990s to 2009ish. They can produce talent but they never nurture it the best way possible, for example giving them 1st team time or allowing them to stay long enough in the club so they understand the tactics. The main issue is that those players are sold instantly because of the club reputation and never get a chance to shine in the club because they never get a spot if top tier world class players come to the 1st team.
Not saying guti is world class felt like a dagger to heart
Just shows how underrated he is
💯 World Class
They are producing good players, it’s just the clubs mentality of greatness now, doesn’t go well with the transition of youth players to the first team. Real Madrid would never accept playing in Europa league for 2 seasons straight, just to produce talents. This mentality is why Real Madrid is so successful, and why it is the biggest club in history.
Great video as always, Alfie!
unbelievable timing on this one
Chelsea have a great academy, and are responsible for the following team - Etheridge - Ake, Tomori, Colwill, Guehi, James - Mount, Loftus-Cheek, Gallagher, Hudson-Odoi - Abraham, (Arguable Rice could be added to this team)
Quite impressive but few of these would make it into an all-time Chelsea graduate XI which could contain Bonetti - Le Saux, Harris Terry James - Hudson, Hollins, Wilkins, Venables - Osgood Greaves
Only James makes the team, but many are from the 60s, yet the 60s Chelsea academy didn't have the same success at youth level as in more recent times. I wonder if the reason for this is the pool of available talent (ie the whole World rather than the UK), and the need for immediate success meaning bringing in academy players is a risk. In fact Chelsea's transfer ban probably helped establish James, Mount and Abraham in the 1st team.
All of them are youth players are brought literally
@@d15t0rted4read the comment again
Terry is west ham product no?
Chelsea 😂😂 in a video about real Madrid 😂 Chelsea 😂😂
Terry is from West Ham. And all of those current players you named from the Chelsea academy would never make on Mouinho's Chelsea squad.
More excellent work; bravo!
Another great video Alfie 👏🏻
there's no more relaxing thing on earth than Alfie saying 'so sit back... relax...'
This video has perfect timing lol
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lol
ban men's football, women's football should be the only football allowed because men are gross and women are not.
@@boghianvalentin7687 Three Real Madrid youth players have been arrested after a video came out with them doing something sexual with a minor. The players not being minors
Great vid alfie
Sensational work as ever. This a channel that does not get the views it deserves
greatest player ever from each country in africa
Mane, drogba, jay jay okocha, osimhen, Salah, aubameyang, Michael essien, etoo, weah, mahrez, Yaya toure, mane,
Radebe?
Could you repeat those Real Madrid stats to Gary Neville and Sky Sports please 👍
I have class in 4 hours and haven't slept yet but can't miss an upload lol.
Peter Federico is one of my go-to cheap pickups in Football Manager, Real Madrid always cuts him
"Why Don't Real Madrid Produce Any Great Players?" They don't need to. They can produce good players and sell them. They're clininal, ruthless and effective for it.
Thinking about it, you have the better chances of becoming a pro player joining Madrid youth ranks even if doesnt mean playing for los merengues
If you don’t think Carvajal is world class, you don’t know footy.
Great timing with the arrest 🤣
That buy back clause is pretty smart ngl, never thought of it to be used like that
That was an a**hole move, but a great business move.
@@bonchitogovindodas3333how is it ?
@@jordanmince7613 its because you never gave them a chance
@@prettyboynova2194 and that's why theres a buy back
RM spent less on players than Liverpool in the last 10 years yet have won 5 UCLs in that time
yes because you invested plus you are not consistent
I not compare real madrid youth team with barca youth team
I just happy with the way madrid is right now 😊
Another banger from Alfie The 🐐
Reals academy makes allot of sense, to be good enough to play for madrid is to be an elite among the elite of footbal. The vast majority of their accademy graduates will never reach that level so instead of training them for your own team you train them to be complete footballers who can play for just about anyone so the graduates can have a career playing elite level football even if not for real.
Because those player's don't wait for their chance.they become too impatient so the only option for Madrid is to sell them.
It’s great. It’s realistic. It’s profitable. What’s not to like?
Instead of filling our youngsters heads with pipe dreams that they could be the next Xavi or Messi, Real Madrid puts no pressure on their youngsters.
Instead they provided with the steady route to the success of their careers. One step of a ladder at a time. From Youth Team to First Division Mid-Low Table Team, letting them try to establish their place there and flourish their talents while keeping close attention to their progress rather than forcing them into Real’s first team where the pressure is at the highest in the world football. They can progress at their own pace with no pressure on their shoulders unlike the likes of Ansu Fati or Bojan who crumbled under the pressure of their first team and failed to realize their potentials.
And if they are good enough then we will Welcome them to the Real Madrid First Team. The peak of World of Football and the dream of every players.”..
If they are not, then they would still at least be a respectable player who made a living by playing football in their respective teams.
Real Madrid hopes for the successes of their youths and prepared them to be so, instead of killing 1000 prospects in the hope of producing 1 next superstar.
Not sure I agree with what you seem to be implying that the Madrid approach is better for the players. I think it’s a matter of opinion and that one is not clearly better or worse, they are just different and based on different club cultures and approaches to success. For Real they want to attract the best players from anywhere and they use their academy as a source of funding for that. For Barca, they are looking to uncover the next superstar player and give them the development needed and a path to their own first team. One is not necessarily better or worse, they are just different.
For the players there’s still pressure to perform or you’ll be let go like anywhere else. You’re still treated like an asset which will be sold to fund a preferred arrival from somewhere else, and you know that even should you be part of the select few that does very well at youth level you’ll be moved on anyways and have to start fresh in a new club/city/country. Unless there’s actual evidence to suggest that one approach is better for the players than the other it’s just a matter of opinion. I’m not so sure that one approach results in more youth players being dropped or let go should they not reach standards, as the standards are insanely high at both places, just different outcomes should you reach those standards.
@@mattanderson8575 Yes it is a matter of opinion, but I’d agree Madrid’s way are more realistic. The profits and Real Madrid’s health in finance are the testament of the results..
They didnt rely on “could be” the next superstars in which they wouldnt know when or if they’d appear at all and keep making respectable professional players in a reliable way. And instead of wishing from the star that a superstar would be born from the academy, which is not reliable at all, the steady profits from the academy are used to invest on highly rated young players such as Camavinga, Valverde, Bellingham, or Vini. And all of a sudden they now got the young Superstars in the team even without the label “born and raised in Real Madrid academy.”
@@Long_DoooGif by “realistic” you mean easier to achieve, than yes its easier to become a mediocre player than a great one (obviously) but i dont think that makes it better in any way (it is a matter of opinion tho). I think a young player would much rather take the gamble of becoming a great player than a decent one so i respect that approach a lot more. And finance should not be the measure of success of an academy you’re acting as if barca’s financial crisis is down to their academy when it has nothing to do with it or as if real madrid’s academy is their “main” source of income or something when its not, and is just one of many sources. And again are you confusing Barca with Athletic club or something? Barca have never had to “rely” on the academy, you could say they used it a bit more because of their recent finances but they’ve still bought many players as well. The difference between Barca and Madrid is that Barca can do both, bring in great players while also producing them. You talk about players “not knowing when or if they’ll get into the first team” or barca relying on “could be”, why are you saying that as if its a bad thing? That’s the type of risk that comes with becoming a footballer even at an academy level, “will i make it?”. So why you acting like an academy having that expectation is a bad thing? And don’t know what you mean by “respectable professional players in a reliable way”? I’d say any player should be considered at academy or pro level should be considered a “respectable professional” but if you mean quality wise then you’re chatting absolute rubbish, because barca produce greater talents more frequently than real madrid. And it is “reliable” because they do it so frequently, and i hope you don’t consider “reliable” as producing a world class talent that breaks into the first team every year, because that is beyond stupid. They’re not “wishing upon a star” you dolt, they’re producing talent all the time at their academy and it is reliable because they do it so regularly. Again are you confusing Barca with Athletic club? And like i said Barca do both they produce talents like Gavi, Balde and Lamine Yamal while also buying talent like Frenkie de jong, Pedri, Araujo and even with real madrid buying every brazilian with a droplet of hype they’ve signed one of if not the biggest talent in brasil in Vitor Roque. So I’d say barca and their academy are doing pretty good.
@@thedecider4755 Easier? You are not to decide for the youngsters life and career and how easy it is for them to make it in life as a footballer. So you would gamble with their careers by making them sink or swim in the first team in the slim hope that they could have an express route to be a star?
If they are to be a superstar, their playing environment in lower ranked team where they can get plenty of opportunities to play will only help them more in their progress rather than being a sub in the first team without too much playing team. Dani Carvajal didnt have a problem to flourish as the best RB in the world during his prime days even when he didnt debuted in Real Madrid’s first team.
Haha what's not to like? The fact the Spanish national team is full Barcelona players and no Real Madrid players.
Pls could you do a video about whats happening to Nimes Olympique? I cant find anything They were 2021 in Ligue 1 fell out of the ligue now theyre in 3rd ligue and seems like they will fall even farther in 4th ligue. Thank you for considering. And sorry for bad english i listen and speak very well but when i write its like a 3 year old. :D
Btw love your videos sending positive vibes from Czech Republic :D
Bro, Would you make a video about the best academies around the world that have produced the most amazing players. Maybe include a few from Latin America as well as Europe?
It's simple, Real Madrid simply don't have a philosophy of play or a way of playing football. When you look at the club's history, the logic has always been to put the best players in the best conditions to win. For example, if the best players are more comfortable playing possession football like De Stephano Puskas Kopa, Real will play possession football if they are more comfortable playing more direct football like Ronaldo Di Maria Ozil Bale, Real will play more direct football. It's the fact of not being prisoners of a particular playing philosophy that has enabled Real to win all its Champions Leagues, unlike Barcelona or Ajax, who simply can't succeed at the highest level once their playing philosophy is obsolete. The consequence for a young player from the academy is that to be able to play in the first team, he simply has to be the best of all the players in his position, even the outsiders. Unlike Barcelona, where if you're better in the Barcelona system you'll be favoured over someone else, and you still have to learn the philosophy. A Pedri, for example, couldn't do well at Real because he doesn't have the physical dimension of a Camavinga or Modric when he was younger, but in Barcelona-style possession football he's more at ease developing his skills. So it's quite simple. And Real has already produced some great players in its academy, and I'm referring here to Real's Quinta Del Buitré with Emiliano Butragueno the only team in history of laliga to win five laliga in a row
The philosophy is to be the best or get out, no matter what it takes
The thing is these are academy players, they are not cut to be the best, yet, which is a shortcoming of the Madrid philosophy
@@gabsnandes7818he’s right tho. He couldn’t have said it any better.
Thats not how it works, such a stupid answer. Not having a set way of playing football doesn’t equal real madrid’s success. Look at Ac milan or Liverpool or bayern munich they don’t have a set play style and yet haven’t won as many as ucl as real madrid. Real madrid won so many beacuse they had the best players or for other reasons. Not because they don’t have a set play style. And barca aren’t prisoners to anything, this is their vision of how football should be played . And i don’t think any style of football becomes obsolete, especially the way barca play, because you can trace it back to ajax who dominated in the 70’s to cryuff who brought it to barca and was able to win the UCL with them in the 90’s and ajax were able to win another one that decade tok and the Barca dominated on an incredible scale in 2000s and 2010s, so how is it obsolete when its succeeded across 40 or so years? Even now with Pep at Manchester city has been able to dominate the premier league which many call the hardest league in the world. And they have reached the highest level of football winning the UCL and utterly destroying the team you claim is so superior due to their lack of a set play style, Real Madrid with that very Philosophy. So how is it obsolete? But you simply don’t have to be the best in your position because everyone at real madrid is not the best in their position. Is joselu or carvajal the best? Seriously? And these players in these systems and philosophies that you think are so inferior often become the best in their position such as KDB or halland or rodri at man city. I think Real madrid would kill for Pedri right now and Modric is not a physical player so him and pedri are the same in terms of physicality at the very least. And you having to go back to the 80’s to mention a real madrid academy is quite sad. As for barca academy graduates (don’t worry you don’t have to go back that far) A certain Lionel Messi just the player to win the most balon d’ors ever and in just the span of six years managed to win TWO trebles while real madrid in its entire history have yet to win one;)
@@drpepper9676 Hes not right at all, hes shockingly wrong
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Cause they get arrested for illegal sexual conduct with minors?
Good timing
That picture of Mobutu was a touch of class😂.
As a Barcelona fan, i do prefer from a sporting perspective how our academy players are designed to be stars or play for our first team one day. But i do respect the hell out of Real Madrids way of handling their academy, it’s designed to create pros and make profit for the organization, not to develop players for their own team. I’m so jealous of how they sell so many young players with the low buy back clauses meanwhile Barca just sells players like Abde Ezzalzouli for like a couple million without a buyback clause. Barca needs to depend on the youth academy for the success of our team but i think we should adopt some of Madrids formula and also look to make profit especially with our finanical problems
We have a easy bayback clauses on Abde
Damn you've fallen for the myth of La Masia players not being able to cut it outside of Barca. Even recently look at Olmo, Grimaldo, Cucurella, Onana...
Lamasia is not a business organization
@@afnanmuhd unfortunately it was almost run to the ground during the Bartomeu era. Laporta revived the academy
What are you lying we have buy back on abde
For the Americans out there, a good translation would be the college Alabama and their football program. And how basically every single NFL team has an Alabama player on it because Alabama gets the best recruits because of their pedigree just like real Madrid.
in german there is that term "Eigengewächs" translates to something like homegrown-player. somewhat funny how people get blinded, since the 20 year olds spend 2 years in that club at max and most likely where lend of for at least on of them.
Theo Hernandez.
Achraf Hakimi.
Martin Odegaard.
Marcos Llorente.
Iker Casillas.
Raúl Gonzalez.
All these good players from the academy, and you're telling me it isn't good?
I'd rather produce a few good talents than a thousand flops.
It's crazy Vini Jr got enough chance to prove himself without being binned.
I mean he mainly got his chance because of Hazard's injuries and the fact that they didn't really have any other options on the LW. It is interesting to think about how good Vini would be now had Hazard actually succeeded.
@@andyb6018 100% I reckon Vini would be a forgotten man had Hazard continued on his elite form. There's another South American kid RM brought for big bucks, Reiner I think he was called a midfielder not given a chance in their packed midfield, now an average Bundesliga talent, Vini probably would have been similar.
@@andyb6018 I guess we'll never know 🤷♂
That is weird becausd in Basketball their academy is one the best in the world.
Casillas, Chendo, Sanchis, Michel, Butragueño, Raul, Carvajal, Camacho, Del Bosque, Guti, Cañizares, Martin Vazquez, Pardeza, Nacho, Hermoso, Reguilon, Marcos Alonso, Hakimi, Arbeloa, Lucas Vazquez, Sarabia, Marcos Llorente, Parejo, Mata, Callejon, Negredo, Soldado, Morata, Rodrigo Moreno, Joselu
Imagine being a ballon de or winning player and wanting to play for a club you know who’s fans are going to abuse you and actively think you’re crap and not good enough to play for Real.
Gareth Bale was different then both Ronaldos, Raul, Zizu and others that were booed. There was more to and I don't think saying the highlights he had for Real Madrid should have stopped the fans from booing him. He preferred golfing over learning Spanish and trying to warm up to the fans. Bale did it to himself.
Bale speaks Spanish, that was always just him being an ass I think and pretending he couldn’t after the booing meant he disliked the fans
The largest issue for Bale was he insisted on playing for Wales fresh out of recovery, then he would arrive back to Madrid injured and we were in a evil cycle. The club that is paying your huge salary doesn't get the benefit of your services, but the NT does. That's also how the Wales, Golf, Madrid banner came to be.
@@Alfie_1That's a pretty British thing to do lol
@@garyandertonyea exactly it was pretty obvious to Madrid fans he didn’t care about the team much so the fans stopped caring about him imo. Seemed fair.
It's not about language, as long as you are performing on the pitch, even if you are speaking alien language, nobody cares.
Yes, Bale did it to himself.
Look Hazard not even contributed 1% of what Bale contributed to Real Madrid.
But still Bale got 100 times more issues compare to Hazard.
Because Hazard knew where to react and where to stay calm, on the other hand Bale messed up whole situation and made his own life difficult.
as a madrid fan, my dream for real madrid is to be like ajax who produces talents almost all the time. it is different feeling to have a core of academy players in the first team since they are really your own.
Ajax and Barcelona are almost certainly the two best academies of all time, and were both shaped by Johan Cruyff. Maybe Real Madrid need someone like that, a messianic type to revolutionise the academy?
@@Alfie_1well we did have the revolution, but to the complete other way. By starting the Galácticos it pathed the way for imo the best team in history who won 4 UCL's in 5 years. The Galácticos strategy did work extremely well, but ofc it comes at some expenses like this
True, a new revolution then lol@@Luis-kv8zc
My dream is to keep winning at the end that’s what is about
Ajax is overrated. They produce overrated & overhyped players like De Ligt & De Johg.
Can you do a "what on earth is going on at Middlesbrough" please 😂 our club really needs highlighting at the minute, worst start to a season in 20+ years
Alfie Potts Harmer, the gift that keeps giving 🔥🔥🔥
#thepeopleschannel a video on the Bangladesh premier league and the rise of Bashundhara kings would be good
A team who went into the top flight after promotion and won the last four league titles now!
Are they the next Newcastle? Are they a team to keep a eye on next few years? Thanks Alfie 😊
Are you taking the piss
@@bigstan5705😂😂
@@bigstan5705 no i simply want Alfie to do a league we don’t know much about
Japan leauge before that then
Bashundhara Kings are like Redbull "brand clubs" with no real football history. Their a disgrace to a football loving nation Bangladesh where there are some clubs which literally are older than the modern Bangladesh state formation itself
Real have been known for signing up the best players, even for huge sums of money, or young talents from abroad as we’ve been seeing more recently. Is it that surprising to see they have one of Football’s more lackluster academies, at least in recent memory?
Lackluster. La Fabrica has the most first team players in Europe 😂
They have top 3 academy they make their youth players pro players not 1% that makes it to your first team
Whilst it is not my preference, I guess it is a win-win situation for both the club & players. Can we please have a video about Maltese Football ⚽ Thank you
CAP, La Fabrica does produce great - good players. Great topic but due to lack of great research it's just meh. Thinking Carvajal is not a world class RB is really concerning. He had one of the greatest Defensive and Offensive peaks we've seen for Backs in recent years. Injuries and apparently allergies got him f-up. Hakimi is another World Class player from the academy. If I had the chance to play at any academy it would be there. Even if you dont end up at Real Madrid spending years at La Fabrica sets you up to be good in any other league because of the very diverse training you get. Unlike teams like Ajax or Barcelona. They are tailored into molding players to play one type of system. Take them out of that system it becomes clear they cant cope.
You could even say that Raul was at Athletico before moving to theif criss city rival but he was still only a teenager when he moved then so he's as good as homegrown and ended up being a star for Real Madrid and smashed all sorts of records prior to Christiano Ronaldo signing for the team
he said all that in the video?
Barca clear
In barka fans dreams
I looks like Manchester City have adopted the same style with their EDS.
City's EDS produces some really good players that look very promising people like Foden, Bobb, Lewis, Trafford, Tommy Doyle, James Mcatee and so on but its pretty rare for EDS graduates to actually stay in the City team with most of them being sold.
It has come to a lot of peoples attention that there are two main clauses in every players contract when they get sold that came from the EDS and that is a buy back and a sell on percentage.
Those are always in their, people like Lavia, Porro, Borges all reportaly have (had in lavias amd Porros case) buy back clauses and sell on percentage.
It seems that City have copied Real Madrids way as the EDS for City have racked in a lot of money for City over 100 million euros i think it was reported.
Lucas Vazquez, Dani carvajal, nacho, are all greate players from the academy.. They perform in big games like world class players
I can't take this video with any seriousness when you state that the last true great player to come from Madrid's youth system was Casillas and then go on to act like Pedro and Valdez are great players as well as including players that joined Barca at 17/18 years of age as part of their youth academy.
As of today, we know why...
The intro is everything to me 😂
Lol the image @ 4:53 is from Flight Simulator 2022. I came here for a 30 minute video and ended with a 40 minute update to play that game again.
I think the football landscape is changing and Real won't be able to keep this strategy. They may regret treating their youth academy like this.
True. Although, imagine being a successful product of Real Madrid’s academy and making millions and being able to live of a footballer’s salary? Playing for your country and achieving your dream?
You’d have loads of respect for Real Madrid. And, that could save them
Where's that product? The only decent player from the academy that played for spain in the last two decades was Carvajal..and he wasn't even there when they won the world cup..real only produce average players that will play in middle table teams in Spain in like Getafe and Rayo vallecano and that's it ..
nah it will grow more Man City academy is applying this stategy too
@@elmehdinafia1237so casillas, raul, guti,hiero are from Barcelona right
@@joleneacquah7529 all these players were in the academy before the year 2000..I said after the year 2000 carvajal is the best one so far lol
I really don't think there is any doubt that Real Madrid are the biggest club on the planet whatever sort of metric you use
In terms of producing talents from the academy, is real better than Barcelona??
Lived in Spain for 10 years and 9 out of 10 people you met were Real Madrid fans and whenever they won, the streets would be a carnival... and this was in Andalucia!
@@playboyx007 he wasn't saying that was he ?
@@playboyx007 Yes tell me where was Barca academy before 2006? They hit the jackpot only once, Madrids academy has always left their mark through many decades.
ive always thought that it would be pretty obvious and an almost garauntee of success to play the same formation right from under 10 up to the first team so its like a conveyer belt of players right through the ages,identify a young players attributes and allocate him a position which he plays right through the age groups,slowly molding him for the first team and say u have a 15 yr old holding midfielder have him study his position on and off the field watching tapes of busquets and other world class DMs and surely at the very worst u get players who can step into the first team because they know their role,they might not be good enough to play long term for first team but surely u would get a few gems like barca seem to do quite often,also when they are younger have the player they hope to become as a mentor giving advice etc and tips how to play that position
Yeh thats to make olayers for your first team but if your youth players only play one system and only that very low chance they gonna make it else where real makes pro players that can make it else were if theyr not top of the elite
22:50 as a Real supporter, defs don't want them lol. I get the romance of "home" grown players but if you consider Real's current transfer policy, bonafide superstars aren't being bought anymore. Mostly U-21ish players... a lot of development goes into that too. Vini from 2018 isn't Vini from 2023. No comment on Jude, he's something else.
man said GAVI 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, any real madrid fan would happily keep modric for the next 5 years than have gavi in this real madrid team
Being a Madrid fan is a mental deficiency after all so I can assume you’re telling the truth.
@@DontAttme You seem butthurt.
@@billmartin4093 :| I will laugh when that becomes funny
@@DontAttme Barca fans compared fati with Vinicius, this comparison comes no where near that one.
@@y.u.v.i funnily enough statistically Fati has a higher goals to game by total minutes 🤡🤡🤡
Odegaard, Theo, Hakimi, Kovacic, Llorente and there is a lot more
Kovacic, Odegaard and Theo are not Real products. But nice try tho.
@@duplo93pc yes they are
@@besharagatt7073 Just google
@@besharagatt7073no they were bought from other clubs. To be a product you have to graduate at the academy
no they are not@@besharagatt7073
You should make a video about brics+ XI vs G7 XI
I was a player there and they tell you you will not play for real Madrid but will for another Spanish club!
Bit weird that you started praising the Church of Satan towards the end. Great video otherwise.
Its difficult for a young player to climb the ranks since they buy great players
Unlike barcelona who take chances on their young kids
That true but Barcelona still spend as much as Madrid and even more at time
@@tjkong6096that was only under bartomeu’s idiocy ,who is gone now. We haven’t seen that since and never will again… probably.
@@thedecider4755because you can't 😂
@@thedecider4755I didn't know Lewandowski, De Jong, Cancelo, Gundo, Christensen and Kounde were Barca homegrown. I must have missed their La Masia days. Before you respond, if you want to count Pedri as homegrown, then Vini and Valverde to name a few fall under the same category for Madrid.
@@jordanmince7613 i mean, we can, and we have, we just don’t pay stupid prices anymore.
Real Madrid also produced legends and best players of all time like Raul, Iker casillas, Joan mata and now these players who still play for Real nacho, l.vasquez, Joselu, Carvajal, fran gracia, brahim the players they sold Hakimi,morata, Aribass and also Spain national gk kika casilla and many more
Real Madrids academy has produced more players currently playing in the top 5 leagues than an other club.
So they do produce great players.
Also cant argue with success, if youre winning what they have been winning it only means they have been making the right decisions.
Exactly mate. Real Madrid is the best.
Not enough of their academy players watch Andrew Tate
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the real madrid fans destroy the clubs reputation. they’d be so much more liked and respected if their fans weren’t petulant children
said barca fan 😂
said by a nottingham forest fan you halfwit@@1607Adi_Manz
@@1607Adi_Manz It’s true though there are few clubs with a shittier fanbase. Literal club legends like casillas where booed also Ronaldo. Don’t get me wrong I respect the club but the fans are shite.
you're clueless
Every clubs have toxic fans but what makes Real better than the likes of Barca is their professialism. A lot of Barca players, coaches, presidents have the same toxic behaviour like the childish fanbase which is in my eyes unnacaptable.
I like this video but have to criticize your clickbait video title. Maybe it should have said "Why can't Castilla players breakthrough into the first team?" but that would've changed the whole meaning. Take a look at players that graduated from Castilla in the last 15 years and check how their careers went, La Fabrica is one of the most consistent youth academies worldwide to produce talent. You don't even have to go back 15 years, just check a few teams in La Liga now and look who is the most important player in their squads..
la fabricia is a second youth for barcelona as well i mean the 90's barcelona won 5 la liga won 5 la ligas and a champion's league to because of them