I am firmly in the belief the HOA's should be illegal because they interfere with our property rights. Knew a guy in Missouri that was on the edge of an HOA (not part of it, 2 houses down) that told him his 1954 Studebaker pickup (fully restored evergreen color) was an eyesore and needed to be replaced with a vehicle at least 2018 or newer or stored in a place where it wouldn't be visible from the road (garage doors were required to be open during daylight hours in this HOA) or the vehicle would be towed. Low and behold one day, it went missing from his driveway while he was at work. He got it back cause the owner of the tow company knew him and stored it safely for him, but the HOA refused to give up. After 3 ILLEGAL tows, he sued them for $300,000 and won. Then warned that if law enforcement didn't stop them he'd open fire the next time they trespassed. Long story short, the head of the HOA now has permanent damage to his left leg and is serving 5 years for felony trespassing/assault. My friend: free as a bird and working to disband the HOA near him. EDIT: For those wondering... I was helping my friend install a fence in the hopes to prevent trespassing when the idiot from the HOA showed up with a gun threatening us to drop the lawsuit. He was apparently going to lose everything (wife was divorcing him and he was looking at jailtime) and in desperation thought he he get my friend to drop the charges. Wound up getting a sledgehammer to the leg. He was lucky we were unarmed at the time despite being legally allowed to carry, But since we were both shirtless in the 95 degree plus weather we were unable to conceal our firearms so we had left them in our vehicles. Mr. HOA wound up divorced and is serving 38 years in prison for trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon, 3 counts of auto theft (the illegal tows from private property), and attempted murder.
@@la_old_salt2241 I miss Missouri's more lenient gun laws, the only reason he went free. Constitutional carry, Castle law, and stand your ground law are wonderful things that need to be instituted in all 50 states. Crime rates would drop drastically and HOA's would learn to butt the hell out of other peoples business.
That's a beautiful truck. I think Mr. HOA was jealous! Also, I question the intelligence of these HOA's that require open garages. Even organized garages are a little chaotic to the eye and a closed door would fit their snotty little aesthetic better, but more importantly most of a home's high ticket items are stored in a garage! So now you've got your property on full display for any idiot to steal or harass you to borrow, and all of it is vulnerable while you're working or running errands, on vacation, etc. I guess next it'll be clear bathroom exterior walls so they can make sure you're washing your ass to code.
When I moved to a new state, I told my Real Estate agent that I wasn't interesting in HOA located properties. Guess what was the first house he showed me? Yeah....told him that if he showed us another in an HOA I'd fire him and find someone who could actually listen.
@@eileenmcdonald1599 Giving someone one mistake means they understand the serious of it; firing at the one mistake might mean several people making the same mistake.
He knowingly went against your preference. I would have said "Thank you" and found another agent immediately. End of problem. And maybe next time he might listen.
That is my number one requirement when I buy a home. No HOAs. My 2nd, No wood panels on the walls. Lol I seriously hate both. I tell my realtor not to test me. I'll fire him immediately. I found out many realtors get commissions from housing developments under HOAs. I'm buying next year in northwoods wisconson.
House hunting seems to be very different than here in the UK. You say you would fire an Estate Agent so do you pay an Estate Agent to find you a property? We either contact, for free, various agents and tell them what we're after and they email us details of properties they have on their books or, we go online and look at property details without contacting an agent first. If we like a property we arrange a viewing through the agent. No hiring and no firing.
Oh yeah, my parents bought a home in an older small neighborhood. Never had an HOA. Then new homes were built and in came the HOA! They told them that for Christmas only white lights were allowed...... My Stepdad then proceeded to light up the house( like the Griswold's) in large multi colored bulbs. They were grandfathered and not in the HOA. I love to see what he does every holiday season to upset them! 😂 Once they saved the notices they received and then mailed them back in a large box with tons of glitter. It was epic! 😂😂😂😂
@@crispytoast6936 Especially that super-fine micro-glitter they sell in craft stores now! I work in one, and that stuff can best be described as “craft herpes.” That term is appropriate, because there is NO getting rid of the stuff when it spills-it gets freaking EVERYWHERE! Small wonder it’s so popular for porch pirate/HOA revenge glitter bombs!
I had a neighbor from hell who thought his shit did not stink and was a billy bad ass. Well our backyard ( marsh land )extended about 100 yards to a river in the rear and as looking at the river his house was on the right side back toward the river. He also had a wall along the property line that extended from the street to the back and around his house. At the front of his driveway he had a tall solid steel double gate about 10 to 12 feet tall and same width. One day sitting on the back porch I saw a bag of trash fly over the wall and into our backyard. I went out and found he was using our backyard as his personal landfill. So I grabbed some empty 55 kilo sacks ( 6 if I recall right) and headed back to clean up and found a pile about 10 feet in diameter and 3 feet above the water level along with about 8 55 kilo bags filled with trash. After all the bags were filled I moved them close to the front of my house out of his sight. I then waited for him to come home, close and lock the gate behind him. I then took each bag filled with his trash and stacked them up against his gate, all told there were over 2 dozen of those bags filled with his trash. Trash never came over the wall again. LOL
Well, no wonder you're a Dadzgrl! Your stepdad sounds awesome! I was a Daddy's girl too, and I probably avoided getting in usual "teen" trouble because on weekends I'd rather hang out with dad in his garage and learn about car maintenance and repair than go out partying with friends. My dad was a very creative electrical engineer. He built the coolest lighted decorations out of junk, such as making "trees" out of lights by welding a steel pole with a large eyebolt at the top to string lights through onto an old heavy tire rim so it wouldn't blow over. We had several of these "trees" in different sizes, and he made a lighted walkway path by cutting plastic milk jugs in half and using the bottoms as light covers (kind of a 20th century Luminaria without paper bags). Once it was all up and working, it was beautiful! I still love crafting with "trash" myself, and Daddy's lessons in car maintenance paid off for me. I'm 63, and have _never_ had a car payment, because I buy old cars that still have some life left, and I take care of them. For the past 5 years I've been driving a beat-up 20 year-old Hyundai that I paid $800 for. Because I live off-grid on a mountain down 3 miles of very rough dirt road, my poor Hyundai's shocks and struts take a beating. Next week, I take possession of my "new" vehicle, and it's my dream car! It's a 30 year old Toyota 4-Runner that my friend lovingly restored for his nephew. His nephew drove it 2 years, but joined the Marines and doesn't need it anymore... but I sure do! My dad is the reason I've had the confidence to do things like live off-grid alone with no neighbors within 2 miles. I was born a tomboy and Dad never tried to discourage that trait. Instead, we became hiking buddies and gearheads! My stubborness will likely get me killed someday, but if so, oh well. At least I lived the life I wanted. I'm not gay, BTW, not that it matters, but I am ace. 😉💜🖤🤍💟
And I cannot imagine that it's legal for an HOA to force you to tear up your house to move it further back off the road after it's been there for over a decade!
Actually, There's A Law Down Here In Florida That States That You Don't Have To Change Anything If You've Lived There For At Least 7 Years Or More. I Don't Remember The Exact Term, But I Learned That Recently In School. There Might Be Other States That Also Have This. This Is Why It's Good To READ And Keep A Copy Of Everything You Sign. 💕 💕 ✨ I Apologize If My Writing With Capital Letters Inconveniences Anyone. I Suffer From OCD. ✨
That particular house is in Rogers County, Oklahoma. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t get a variance based on the building codes in place when the home was built.
They can pretty much force you to do whatever they want. The contracts are as vague as possible, and once you sign, you don't own the house. Don't sign, and find another house.
In the barracks if you forgot to open your blinds during the day you would come home after work to no blinds lol. It was funny bc there was a good half dozen or more rooms with no blinds. At night it became more obvious.
@@debrabaier1894 Amen to that! I only got in trouble with housing once and it was for not watering the yard in December. We were in Long Beach, CA. I told the lady at the office that I was unaware of that rule because where I’m from, the grass is supposed to be dead in the winter! She withdrew the write up. We used to stand at our front doors and turn all our porch lights off at exactly 7:59 so the snitch in the golf cart didn’t slap a sticky note on our doors for having the light on after 8am. 😂
Makes sense. When you have committees (and based have loads of those) you get busybodies who vote themselves more and more power. The military will have a guiding hand. They need housed personnel. An HOA has no-one to stop them.
It no longer exists, but my neighborhood had a property owners association. I still recall the look on the POA officer's face when I said we hadn't signed anything. He said something about having the realtors let the POA know when a house is sold. I explained we'd inherited our house. The look on his face after that was priceless.
Our HOA demanded we enroll our dog in dog obedience classes AND only walk her muzzled. She’s a nine year old, 15 pound dog who has never been off leash for even one minute. She has never bit anyone in her life, she just barks at people she doesn’t know. We got her some training and she’s much improved, but there is no way I’m muzzling this old, sweet in every other way dog. I will fight them to the Supreme Court 😉
Your dog is so cute! I bet you had the same reaction I did when I saw that beautiful, precious golden retriever who was poisoned by the damn HOA spraying chemicals... I'm so angry that anyone would do that, knowing residents have pets! NO excuse for that! I remember when my aunt's adorable teacup poodle was poisoned and killed by a neighbor who sprayed RoundUp on the part of my aunt's yard where little "Inky" went potty. I think they did it on purpose to be jerks. Inky stayed indoors 95% of the time, and she rarely barked. Broke my aunt's heart!
I own a home and what you could euphemistically call, a questionable part of town. And I would rather live here with the crime and neglect from the city than live in an HOA community. Here I can do what I want with my property, that I own, and that I paid for, without having some self-appointed neighborhood Warden looking over my shoulder. People here leave you alone. I question the intelligence of anybody who would buy a home knowing it was part of a homeowners association.
That's my thinking when I bought my first house - go live in wife-and-two-kids ville and be told what I can and cannot do with my own money, or go live in a suburb dating to the mid 70s and enjoy life. Later on we sold up and moved to a rural block - nearest neighbours are over 200m away and we don't bother each other.
@@gersonsantos5416 I've got all of those things, except the drive on the lawn part. It's not a big deal. They're my neighbors, and I get along with them. It's still better than an HOA. I can't believe what absolute weenies Americans have turned into. I grew up in a time before HOAs and gated communities. We held our personal freedom to do what we please as long as we don't hurt anybody else in higher regard. I'm absolutely appalled at how easily we are willing to hand over our freedom to somebody else in exchange for,... What? Uniformity? That's pathetic. Some sheep just want to make sure that all the other sheep look just like them. I've noticed that these homeowners associations always exist in predominantly white neighborhoods. Do you really think that's a coincidence? And before you ask, yes, I'm White.
I'm glad we don't have HOA's in the UK. Sounds like a bloody nightmare. If one of my neighbours complained about my tree house I would just build another one closer to their boundary. They don't though, most of the time they are in the tree house enjoying a scotch with me.
In Scotland we have factors in some places to take care of common facilities. It is competitive, they send a report every year including next year's charge. But a vote by the home owners can oust them and appoint new factors.
@@charlestaylor9424 HOA's are largely run by home owner volunteers, and any owner cant stand for election, as in your unions. the alternative is to live in Compton and deal with derelict vehicles blocking fire, ambulance, and police response and NOT being able to get to grandma and get her OUT of the burning house. Posters think "getting rid" of something automatically makes it better. Probably never voted in their life OR had any assets to protect. , either.
@@8ofwands300Yeah Town Councils in some places, but I have never ever needed to have any contact with them about anything. It would not be them telling you if any trees or shrubs should be trimmed for example, and they only do it if dangerous or overgrowing a public path not on the grounds of it looking messy.
@@mistywilliams7826 Getting to be less and less of a choice, at least in my metro area. It's really hard to find a decent house here that isn't in an HOA. But well worth the search, imo
@@rhysplaysvirtual yes! We tried very hard to not live in one but it seemed every house near our jobs and schools were in an HOA. Luckily, the HOA we ended up with is fairly chill.
See that's the thing. People CHOOSE to move in...they even sigh a contract saying they agreed to the the terms upon moving in, and pay monthly dues....so why then do people act surprised when they have rules to follow? How about move somewhere outside of the HOA and shut up
My neighborhood used to have a very basic HOA. No weird rules & they only charged $75 for the whole year. No one really enforced anything, including payment, so there were a couple of families who never paid anything eventhough they were quite well-off. Without fail, every time the HOA had a catered block party, these families would show up together with a bag full of empty tupperware. They would stay & enjoy themselves for a while but before they left they would fill up all of their tupperware containers with the catered food. The food that was paid for with a portion of our HOA fees that they never once paid. The first time everyone was too shocked to say anything. The second time some of the more outspoken neighbors confronted them (this time they were taking food as soon as it was put out so there might not be enough food for everyone else). The third time someone took the bag of tupperware & hid it. When one of the ladies came back to the table & saw the bag was gone she started yelling. Everyone plaid dumb & she never found it. They showed up to one other party without a bag but didn't stay very long. I haven't seen them since.
Lemme see if I got this right: 1. You buy a house. It happens to be in an HOA neighborhood. 2. You cannot opt out of membership in that association. 3. HOAs charge residents yearly dues. 4. HOAs may arbitrarily fine homeowners for common activities conducted on their own properties. 5. HOAs take liberties on privately owned properties. 6. Homeowners have no say, and presumably no recourse on HOA actions/decision? 7. Neighborhoods are increasingly HOA neighborhoods, meaning that home buyers have fewer non-HOA options. 8. The USA: land of the free???
The tree fort at 1:13 Sort of reminds me of another Pandemic Fort in a neighborhood near my parents. When they started building (not in an HOA!) their neighbors sent them a note via the Messenger Macaw (he loves carrying messages to people) and instead of being all upset, they asked “Can we help? And make it big and sturdy enough to hold adults as well as kids?” Honestly, it looks awesome!
I can't stand people who get annoyed by the sound of children laughing and playing, I think that's the most beautiful sound on earth! That's the reason I got to adopt my wonderful border collie, Joey, 12 years ago. He was a rambunctious puppy, his first owner got him as a gift to grow up with her baby daughter. There were two small children already in the household who adored Joey, and he guarded them very seriously. One day, the drunken jerk next door came over to yell obscenities at the two little kids playing in the yard too loudly for his hangover (probably). Drunk guy comes through the gate into JOEY'S yard, and yells at Joey's children! Aw HELL NO! Joey bit him, hard. The animal control was coming the next day to take Joey to be euthanized, so his owner put a panicked plea out for someone to rescue him (literally). Yes, I broke speed limits to get there! It was love at first sight, and Joey has been my BFF for 12 years. He's sleeping at my feet right now. I love him more than I loved either of my ex-husbands, TBH. I have a video on my channel of the day he was a hero and found two newborn baby goats that the Mama goat somehow forgot where she had them. Joey is the kind of dog they make movies about, and I'm so lucky to have him.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 I've heard that one! The "big frogs in little puddles" reminds me of this classic poem by Emily Dickinson: I'm nobody! Who are you? Are you nobody too? Then there's a pair of us! - don't tell! They'd banish us, you know! How dreary to be somebody! How public, like a frog To tell your name the livelong day To an admiring Bog! (yes, I'm that nerdy girl no boy would look at in high school, Emily spoke to me personally!)
Just remember kids, when taking your children to the "required" park the HOA insist you take them to. If you get in an accident on the way to and/or from....I would sue their pants off. When my kids could just be playing in the backyard!
You cant. That is forbidden in the contract, too...The only winning move when it co.es to an HOW, is not to buy the house in one...And, present hoa conditions in no way reflect future hoa conditions. MANY PEOPLE have learned that the hard way...New management takes over, and it becomes a concentration camp.
We bought our home the year we married; some 25 years ago. It did have an HOA with a very cheap annual fee of less than $100 a year) but as luck would have it, it was an older established community and was pretty much dissolved the year I moved in, with one exception. The very last lot at the end was taken over by the association to prevent the town from creating a street through and thus keeping our roads open to just us homeowners. It was decided that the association would continue insomuch as existing to pay for the annual taxes on the lot and those who chose to (since the 'fee' was dissolved as well) would continue giving their fee annually for that purpose. But I totally agree; I would never move anywhere now if HOAs are involved. No one is going to tell me what I can or cannot do on my own property. That's ludicrous.
How do the HOA have power are they pout in place by the developer? If a person sells they have to get the new owner to sign up for it or they cant buy the house? Inheritance should get around it?
@@asmodiusjones9563 Are you familiar with USA HOAs? How do they have authority of inherited houses? I can understand how it must be written into all sales the new owner must follow the HOA rules. We dont have sub bs here. There is very minor things that are enforced on new developments. EG No ariels above roof is a standard one.
From all of the stories I've read/heard about HOAs, I think the best solution would be for all persons seeking to buy a home to inform the realtors that they won't even look at a home in an HOA.
They still show them, anyway...Realators get a higher commission from HOA properties. Often going so far as to conceal it until the day of signing...Do your DD before submitting an offer. Make %100 certain no HOA, exists.
I think they should be severely limited, mainly to have jurisdiction over community property, but not homes. That way, if Karen is letting her dogs relieve themselves on the tennis courts, we can fine her into oblivion. And I think it is reasonable to keep yards tidy, but there is a line between order and authoritarianism.
Was a real estate broker for many years. No HOA'S for me. When I sold a home, I explained to the prospective homeowners what they were getting into, & asked them to read and understand all the HOA docs and the CC&R's. I explained as much of them as time would allow. Every time.
Thank you. I wish our broker did that for us. We didn’t even know what an HOA was before they came knocking on our door because our TV satellite was apparently violating regulations. And about 4 months later, we had to spray paint our beautiful terracotta roof dark brown😢.
I live about 2 short blocks from the nearby elementary school. When my kids were that age, every day their friends would stop at our house on the way home and play for 30 min to an hour. We had 10-12 kids in our yard playing every school day, whooping and hollering, having fun. I kept a stack of paper cups beside the refrigerator. They all thought it was cool to get water from the door of the fridge instead of opening it up. They were told they were free to drink all the water they wanted, they knew where it was. Bathroom, too. I realized we were blessed to be the home where other kids felt safe to play. No HOA's around here!
Glad I don't live in a HOA neighborhood because if I did I'd probably be serving hard time in jail after some moronic karen tried to enforce some bulls rule or alter my property to suit their agenda.
First NEVER move into a neighborhood that had a HOA!!! Second if they had caused that kind of health damage to my dog….I would sue for them using something so toxic that it does this kind of damage
My father's HOA didn't approve of the color he wanted to have his house painted. So, he picked the most obnoxious color on that list. It was in Florida. So, it was technically called coral. It was a pepto pink. They then just started to knit pick little things because they got owned. He sold his house and moved.
@@Viivlet they can change with time though , so NO HOA is the best option. ( make sure the contract is rock solid that the HOA can't change the rules later if you decide to not head that advise )
It never ceases to amaze me the length people are willing to go to make other peoples lives uncomfortable. As if they have nothing better to do than to think of ways to make everybody else's lives as miserable as possible. The entitlement that some people think they have is immeasurable. If you cannot contribute anything of valuable to society, then please just stay in your house and be happy within your own space.
HOA was giving me hassle ONCE my revenge when they went on holiday 10 female mice and 2 males "found" there way into his cellar along side a pile of food
I worked for an HOA maintenance company that waisted money so badly that they brought in a scuba diver to tell us the correct depth of the pools. I guess a tape measure is too expensive. Ps they also paid to have his tanks refilled!
I lived with HOA for six years. It was totally dysfunctional because the HOA went bankrupt due to half of the units being empty. The builder also went bankrupt. At the same time, I lost my job. I abandoned my unit and so did everyone else that lived there. Then the bank went bankrupt too. A six-year nightmare.
Yes. They are legal. Other than illegal or sexual, they can put pretty much whatever they want in the contract...They could theoretically stipulate what clothes residents are allowed to wear... However, no one can force you to sign anything...
Will never buy a house in an HOA, and if the neighbor hood tries to start one and I have assholes knocking on my door pressuring me to join, I only need to give them one warning before I am legally allowed to defend my castle. Hope their insurance is paid up.
Likewise! The problem with HOAs is that they tend to be a group of Karens who are given an ounce of power and then wield it like an iron club. That little bit of authority makes them think they own your home. Granted, if you buy a home in an HOA community you must sign the contract and abide by its stipulations, but some of them are simply nuts. A very long time ago I knew a man whose job was to go around setting up HOAs. The first one he did was in his neighborhood. One of the rules was "no pickup trucks". Even if your truck was parked in your garage, out of sight, it was not allowed. They "degrade the property values in the neighborhood". Another rule was that your garage door could not be left open for more than a few minutes. Too unsightly. Yikes.
@@fairygoth-mother7341 HOAs can really screw up homeowners, too. They can put liens on the properties if you don't follow their little rules. Very wicked.
My sister is a real estate agent. She showed a house in an HOA. Couldn't help but laugh about one of the other houses flying a Gadsden flag 😂. It's like dude! You moved into a neighborhood that tramples on your freedoms all day long. Why did you move there?
Re: advice to check for HOA when buying property. That doesn't guarantee that they won't try to form one afterward, nor the overzealous ones that won't recognize the limits of the property their HOA controls and harass adjacent properties like I hear so much. It's nice to have a "nice neighborhood", but there has to be a better way than egocentric, narcissistic overbearing people in charge who have nothing better to do than be petty over some arbitrary rules thought up by some committee, typically behind closed doors and not voted on by actual membership. Condo associations fall under the same broad category.
They don't, though. They trend towards affluent homeowners. That's why they're so uptight, among other things, it's the idea they might lose a buck when they sell.
was looking for a house last year as we outgrew the one we were in. my realtor wanted to show us one that was basically everything we told her we wanted. when she told us about hoa fees on the way there I immediately said eff that and we went to the next place.
Go to a HOAs meeting , have your neighbors call for a change in president's and secretary You'll be president , anyone disagrees make sure the next meeting the trouble maker gets voted out and another neighbor takes their place
Ah the one with the fantastic natural flower garden rather than the required grass, that is sad, here in Florida HOAs cannot compel you to have a lawn, you are allowed by state law to have xeriscaping. And a lawn is really hard to maintain when watering restrictions allow only a 4 hour window on your assigned day per week. Even if you have an automatic setup to do that your water bill is going to be well over $100 per month if you water a lawn.
Think they put it there to get their paws on your condo? Nothing suprises me anymore. Gentrification, retaliation, bullying, thuggery, ageism, sexism, anti immigrant etc.
Why the heck have people got to be so petty , I cant believe people have to actually pay a fee to these associations and get treated like this .....unbelievable
I sold my really nice condo because the HOA said if I did not remove the bushes I planted, they would remove them because they were not the authorized kind. Funny, because I got the bushes off the authorized list they sent me.😊
A co-worker of mine has an HOA. No holiday decorating at all. No wreaths on the door. No flags. No decorative door mats, only "functional" mats are allowed. No potted plants anywhere. No birdbaths. Regulates what type of trees you MUST have planted on your property: two trees minimum. Her neighbor was fined because she'd left her drapes open and her Christmas tree and other INDOOR ornamentation were visible from the street view.
Some of these things I would take them to court on. Telling me my home is too close to the curb, move it or tear it down!??? It was there before the HOA was formed, you can’t touch it or fine them. The sidewalk through my side yard. I would call my mortgage company and see if they can sic their lawyers on the HOA 1) for stealing property without paying for it. 2) damage to property (the pipes) make them fix it. My property tax and mortgage is based on the lot size and not on where the HOA wanted to put a sidewalk after I bought the property.
I was born a preacher's kid in the Methodist denomination. Ministers in this denomination have housing provided for them, and permission for interior design/repainting by the family has to be run by the pastor-parish relations committee. Sometimes it's granted, sometimes it's not. It depends on how many old fogies and/or control freaks are on the committee, and much change you want to spring on those *really* old fogies who crave control. Sometimes you get lucky, and get a bunch of artsy, creative types who actually enjoy a change of pace once in a while. But in all honesty, that's really rare. But I'm telling ya -- if ya wanna get an appetizer, a taste of HOA behavior before signing such a contract, go talk to any Methodist minister or minister's spouse, if you're not already part of such a church. They'll tell you to run, not walk, away. Because 9 times out of 10, the local PPR committee for any Methodist church is gonna be made of similar control-freaky peeps. I speak from personal experience watching my parents go through hell. Bad enough my own grandmother was a "Karen."
" . . . the land of the free, and the home of the brave?" Some Americans sneer at this Brit for being a 'subject', whereas they are 'citizens'? Yeah, right, 'citizens' - keep grovelling to the power-crazed aristocrats of your HOAs . . . It's beyond parody.
Hoa in my northern cabin property.was giving me grief about a porch/deck I had on the front of my home It was 6" from ground so it did not need a rail....went to court several times over the issue..I then filed complaints about head of Hoa his daughter had garage built but no siding on it it was tyvek insulation boards a real eye sore...every week for 5 months wrote a complaint...then sued the head of Hoa for favoritism...got some cash and judge made him resign ..could not hold office in Hoa for 5 years
Some people hate freedom. They need to have people telling them what to do, and they love to bully others. I’ve run into them a few times, and talking to them doesn’t work, suing them doesn’t work, the only thing that works is to find out who they are and where they live, and turn their life into a living hell. Call the police on them, keep waking them up serving legal papers, whatever it takes. I worked with one who had her house set on fire twice before she’d stop her insane bullying. She destroyed multiple people’s lives and careers along the way.
No, I don’t believe they did! Our niece and her husband bought a house in an HOA subdivision and learned a life lesson. They thought the HOA would mostly keep people from parking motor homes and boats in the yard for life. Which the HOA rightly did, but then came much, much, more!
I remember when HOA’s started in Chicago. My late husband was an electrician and worked on some of the first apartment to condo conversions and all the HOA was supposed to do was cover costs for summer lawn upkeep and outside painting when required, anything to do with the roof and common inside stairways/elevators and snow and ice removal.
Sounds like that’s more of a condominium association, but they can be just as bad. They are quite popular in Canada (never heard of an HOA in Canada). They extract condo fees; my friend’s condo fees went from just over $100/month until almost $300 in the 18 years he lived there. They do snow removal, mowing lawns of the common area, and other regular maintenance. The condo board owned the outside; there were regular meetings where each owner had a vote. They replaced windows one year, siding another and were sort of ok. But when my friend wanted to install a satellite dish; holy crap! Some “board member” storms over and says that it can’t be mounted where it was being put! My friend retorted that it was the only place that gave him a signal! Guy went back to his place, got a ladder and was going to use it to “uninstall” the dish. My friend called the cops, guy gets belligerent and gets arrested! Condo board said he overstepped his role and was fired! My friend was allowed to keep his dish where it was! Point is that condo boards and HOAs attract power hungry bullies who probably couldn’t get into the police academy!
No way would I ever move to a development that has a HOA. Everyone I know that lives in one complains alot about the overbearing self serving people on the board, who make ridiculous rules.....👍✌💖
There would be huge problems if someone sprayed harmful chemicals in my yard without my knowledge or permission, especially if those chemicals harmed my beloved animals. I'm not sure a lawsuit would be enough to quell my anger.
A PROPERLY run HOA can be a wonderful thing in keeping the community neat and tidy while maintaining communal property (playgrounds/pools/etc.). That being said, I do not or ever intend to live in a community that has an HOA because you have a better chance of being the solo winner of a major lottery jackpot than finding a PROPERLY run HOA!
Do HOAs, make new home owners sign some sort of legal agreement? Is it even legal to fine people who don't comply? Why would anyone want to live in a place like that?
Yes. When you purchase an HOA home, there’s a PUD rider recorded with your mortgage stating you agree to the covenants and restrictions and any future amendments thereto. If you pay cash, you still have to agree to and abide by the rules.
We “had” a lady who ran the HOA in our neighborhood like it was the first time she had a chance to be in charge of something. Way overboard on everyone, throwing fines at everyone like free frisbees. Until a group of us ran for local office. In the end i won . We no longer have an HOA but what we do have is a happy , beautiful neighborhood that looks better than it did when old miss “fine-me” was in charge of things. Ill be stepping down soon and a wonderful , smart, thoughtful lady will be taking my seat for the next term and she will be great. We will stay happy. Sometimes you have take an extra step or two for the good of things. 👍😉
0:48 - I like it! And I hope it drove the HOA head NUTS! 1:29 - Oh, God, that's just inexcusable! Poor dog! I hope s/he recovered! 4:28 - I feel like whoever designed this actively disliked dogs. 5:42 - Then what's the point of even having an HOA?! 6:50 - Will there be snacks?
That's why I opted out of a neighborhoods with HOA's😐😜. I'm not going to spend over $100,00 on a home for someone else to tell me what I can and can not do to my house and lawn. When the member/members of the board start paying my mortgage then and ONLY then will they be allowed to voice their opinion!
I very happily sold my condo a few years ago, to live in a NON-HOA single family house. So many Karens in that place, prudes with nothing better to do. Fined me because my plants weren't doing well on my balcony, fined me because I put a pumpkin on the balcony at Halloween, fined me because I didn't return their nosey info sheet.. Only curtains/shades with a white backing allowed.. Only allowed to use one locksmith who charged 80.00 per a KEY, and 300 to replace a lock, INSANE! Had to send them pictures of any dogs or cats that lived in your house... it was ridiculous! They easily called you twenty times a day if they had a complaint, but if you had an issue the management person was suddenly unreachable! I started putting the word penitentiary after the name of the condo place anytime I sent paperwork back to them, including the none of your damn business information sheet they required! It's ok if someone doesn't mind the lifestyle of being told what you can and cannot do, like you are living with your parents again, but just not for me, and I was stuck there for 9 years because I bought right before the crash. Moving day, getting the hell out of that place was the best day of my life... ironically while my friends and I were moving my furniture out we had to prop the doors open because our hands were too full to open the doors each time, and prude came along demanding we. not prop the doors open. I promptly asked her if she was willing to stay there for the next few hours to open the doors for us each time we came out with some boxes and furniture, that promptly shut her up!! UGH, NEVER again, until I am too old to do the yard work!
I live in an hoa, and had I known what that was before we bought the house, I would never in my life have considered it. Isn't that what cities are for? To regulate to make sure people don't have horrible violations? Other than that, just let people enjoy their lives.
I have a friend who lived in a lakeside neighborhood where the HOA said boats must be stored out of view from the street. Not allowed to have a boat in your driveway.
Had a friend who had a lakeside cabin. The association banned clothes lines. If you had wet towels after swimming better put them in the clothes dryer. Very rich area.
in the Netherlands HOA's only excist in a appartment complex, for a normal house these are outlawed because they conflict with your legal property rights, if i want a wild garden neighbours can complain all they want only when my garden causes a dangerous situation like blocking the vieuw for trafiic on a corner the county will summon you to fix it or they will do it at your expense. so you can imagine how amazed i was when i first heard of the HOA's in the USA.
The farts in the elevator “we have cameras we know who you are” like since when did farts show on cameras?! Is this everywhere do I need to never fart in the outside world again?! AM I EVEN SAFE 😳🤣
They probably think they can tell who broke said wind by their facial expression? I'll tell you this much - that would be one rule I'd break on a consistent basis just for the principle of things.
@@blackenedmagic888 my poker face for accidentally wind in public is amazing. The only time I failed was when I forgot I had headphones on so I wasn’t actually covered by the music 😂 luckily it was outdoors and only one other person around who found it hilarious so I was able to speed walk away mortified 😂😂
@@ChaseWilder In my case, it'd be no accident! I've gotten so good at hiding the fact that I have farted that even my girlfriend can't tell when I've dropped one (unless, of course, it has an odor).
Moved to an area, built our dream home in a sparsely populated area. Had a loosely formed HOA of locals, mostly for roadside maintenance. As more people moved in, more rules were made. Became a fight of them vs. us. Alliances were formed and boards were stacked. We sold our beautiful house and moved to an older neighborhood with no HOA. Lovely, friendly neighbors who help out each other when needed.
I'm curious; do HOAs in the USA have any legal standing? We do have what are usually called Residents Associations in the UK but they can't enforce their will. There are councils who can give legal instructions such as if add-ons/ extensions are permitted etc. It seems so counterintuitive for America the land of the free.
I’ve never lived in one but have known a few people that do. I’m certain they have legal standing but I don’t know all the details. They get started by the developer of the neighborhoods. They own it so they set the terms and to buy you have to sign on to agree to them. I would say there are far fewer houses in HOA’s as a percentage but it’s common for newer houses to be in one
Exactly why i will never buy into a headache like this. No one will ever tell me what I can or can't do on MY PROPERTY. Furthermore, I have cute curb appeal. I style it for a season or holiday. Neighbors stop by and take photos. Some ring my bell and ask if I could help them do their house. And I do.
I'm laughing that the Pink spite house. They really went the extra mile to spite the head of HOA. Not just the house but the brick landscape wall ...and looks like the fountain is also painted pink. XD
In Scotland we have people called factors (usually companies) who charge an annual fee for maintenance but while they might try to be annoying there are laws to let the people whose houses are under them be annoying back. For example factors can be changed by a simple majority vote which the factor must facilitate, any householder can ask for a detailed list of what's been done. the list of things factors can charge for is limited.
Same in Belgium (here they're called a Syndicus). and every year there's a general meeting of all home owners where they have to give an overview of what's been done, how much that cost and other such things. The general meeting also decides on all contracts (like elevator maintenance and the like). They are allowed to do some emergency stuff (if a pipe bursts, they are allowed to call someone to have it fixed for instance without calling a general meeting) but even then they will have to show the bill on the general meeting and if they get too expensive, they can indeed easily be replaced. And the agenda of the general meeting has to be circulated in advance (and a point 'other business' is not allowed), so as home owner you can't complain that you didn't know a point was on the agenda.
One of my friends lives in an HOA in Texas where they require only one type of tree in your front yard, and yes, you have to have the tree. So, the Texas heat keeps killing these trees, so every 6 months or so he has to buy a new tree!!
Good grief. This is mental. Thankfully here in the UK there are no such things as HOAs. Just mental. Just crazy. I thank the stars every day that I’m in the UK and not in a place where stuff like this is normal.
5:00 - I think that HOA that put up gates between sections is in violation. How do emergency vehicles get through? Every second is critical. They do not have time to play HOA games.
Did I read that correctly about the guy who kept getting his classic car towed from his property NOT part of the HOA community - their garage doors had to be left open during daylight hours?? WTF??!! There would be no way I would leave my garage door open while I was at work all day!! It would be like putting a sign on my house that says "Come on in! Take my stuff!! I won't be home for hours!!"
I am firmly in the belief the HOA's should be illegal because they interfere with our property rights. Knew a guy in Missouri that was on the edge of an HOA (not part of it, 2 houses down) that told him his 1954 Studebaker pickup (fully restored evergreen color) was an eyesore and needed to be replaced with a vehicle at least 2018 or newer or stored in a place where it wouldn't be visible from the road (garage doors were required to be open during daylight hours in this HOA) or the vehicle would be towed. Low and behold one day, it went missing from his driveway while he was at work. He got it back cause the owner of the tow company knew him and stored it safely for him, but the HOA refused to give up. After 3 ILLEGAL tows, he sued them for $300,000 and won. Then warned that if law enforcement didn't stop them he'd open fire the next time they trespassed. Long story short, the head of the HOA now has permanent damage to his left leg and is serving 5 years for felony trespassing/assault. My friend: free as a bird and working to disband the HOA near him.
EDIT: For those wondering... I was helping my friend install a fence in the hopes to prevent trespassing when the idiot from the HOA showed up with a gun threatening us to drop the lawsuit. He was apparently going to lose everything (wife was divorcing him and he was looking at jailtime) and in desperation thought he he get my friend to drop the charges. Wound up getting a sledgehammer to the leg. He was lucky we were unarmed at the time despite being legally allowed to carry, But since we were both shirtless in the 95 degree plus weather we were unable to conceal our firearms so we had left them in our vehicles. Mr. HOA wound up divorced and is serving 38 years in prison for trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon, 3 counts of auto theft (the illegal tows from private property), and attempted murder.
I just looked up a 1954 Studebaker pickup, and I am wondering how a fully restored one could be considered an eyesore.
I love happy endings.
@@la_old_salt2241 I miss Missouri's more lenient gun laws, the only reason he went free. Constitutional carry, Castle law, and stand your ground law are wonderful things that need to be instituted in all 50 states. Crime rates would drop drastically and HOA's would learn to butt the hell out of other peoples business.
You. Have. A STUDEBAKER!!! IM IN LOVE!!
That's a beautiful truck. I think Mr. HOA was jealous! Also, I question the intelligence of these HOA's that require open garages. Even organized garages are a little chaotic to the eye and a closed door would fit their snotty little aesthetic better, but more importantly most of a home's high ticket items are stored in a garage! So now you've got your property on full display for any idiot to steal or harass you to borrow, and all of it is vulnerable while you're working or running errands, on vacation, etc. I guess next it'll be clear bathroom exterior walls so they can make sure you're washing your ass to code.
When I moved to a new state, I told my Real Estate agent that I wasn't interesting in HOA located properties. Guess what was the first house he showed me? Yeah....told him that if he showed us another in an HOA I'd fire him and find someone who could actually listen.
I think I would have fired him anyway. For disregarding your requirements from the start.
@@eileenmcdonald1599 Giving someone one mistake means they understand the serious of it; firing at the one mistake might mean several people making the same mistake.
He knowingly went against your preference. I would have said "Thank you" and found another agent immediately. End of problem. And maybe next time he might listen.
That is my number one requirement when I buy a home. No HOAs. My 2nd, No wood panels on the walls. Lol I seriously hate both. I tell my realtor not to test me. I'll fire him immediately.
I found out many realtors get commissions from housing developments under HOAs.
I'm buying next year in northwoods wisconson.
House hunting seems to be very different than here in the UK. You say you would fire an Estate Agent so do you pay an Estate Agent to find you a property? We either contact, for free, various agents and tell them what we're after and they email us details of properties they have on their books or, we go online and look at property details without contacting an agent first. If we like a property we arrange a viewing through the agent. No hiring and no firing.
Oh yeah, my parents bought a home in an older small neighborhood. Never had an HOA. Then new homes were built and in came the HOA! They told them that for Christmas only white lights were allowed...... My Stepdad then proceeded to light up the house( like the Griswold's) in large multi colored bulbs. They were grandfathered and not in the HOA. I love to see what he does every holiday season to upset them! 😂 Once they saved the notices they received and then mailed them back in a large box with tons of glitter. It was epic! 😂😂😂😂
And glitter goes everywhere...genius
@@crispytoast6936 Especially that super-fine micro-glitter they sell in craft stores now! I work in one, and that stuff can best be described as “craft herpes.” That term is appropriate, because there is NO getting rid of the stuff when it spills-it gets freaking EVERYWHERE! Small wonder it’s so popular for porch pirate/HOA revenge glitter bombs!
I had a neighbor from hell who thought his shit did not stink and was a billy bad ass. Well our backyard ( marsh land )extended about 100 yards to a river in the rear and as looking at the river his house was on the right side back toward the river. He also had a wall along the property line that extended from the street to the back and around his house. At the front of his driveway he had a tall solid steel double gate about 10 to 12 feet tall and same width.
One day sitting on the back porch I saw a bag of trash fly over the wall and into our backyard. I went out and found he was using our backyard as his personal landfill. So I grabbed some empty 55 kilo sacks ( 6 if I recall right) and headed back to clean up and found a pile about 10 feet in diameter and 3 feet above the water level along with about 8 55 kilo bags filled with trash.
After all the bags were filled I moved them close to the front of my house out of his sight. I then waited for him to come home, close and lock the gate behind him. I then took each bag filled with his trash and stacked them up against his gate, all told there were over 2 dozen of those bags filled with his trash. Trash never came over the wall again. LOL
Well, no wonder you're a Dadzgrl! Your stepdad sounds awesome!
I was a Daddy's girl too, and I probably avoided getting in usual "teen" trouble because on weekends I'd rather hang out with dad in his garage and learn about car maintenance and repair than go out partying with friends.
My dad was a very creative electrical engineer. He built the coolest lighted decorations out of junk, such as making "trees" out of lights by welding a steel pole with a large eyebolt at the top to string lights through onto an old heavy tire rim so it wouldn't blow over. We had several of these "trees" in different sizes, and he made a lighted walkway path by cutting plastic milk jugs in half and using the bottoms as light covers (kind of a 20th century Luminaria without paper bags).
Once it was all up and working, it was beautiful!
I still love crafting with "trash" myself, and Daddy's lessons in car maintenance paid off for me. I'm 63, and have _never_ had a car payment, because I buy old cars that still have some life left, and I take care of them. For the past 5 years I've been driving a beat-up 20 year-old Hyundai that I paid $800 for.
Because I live off-grid on a mountain down 3 miles of very rough dirt road, my poor Hyundai's shocks and struts take a beating. Next week, I take possession of my "new" vehicle, and it's my dream car! It's a 30 year old Toyota 4-Runner that my friend lovingly restored for his nephew. His nephew drove it 2 years, but joined the Marines and doesn't need it anymore... but I sure do!
My dad is the reason I've had the confidence to do things like live off-grid alone with no neighbors within 2 miles. I was born a tomboy and Dad never tried to discourage that trait. Instead, we became hiking buddies and gearheads! My stubborness will likely get me killed someday, but if so, oh well. At least I lived the life I wanted.
I'm not gay, BTW, not that it matters, but I am ace. 😉💜🖤🤍💟
@@samuelschick8813 That is BRILLIANT! The nerve of that guy!!
And I cannot imagine that it's legal for an HOA to force you to tear up your house to move it further back off the road after it's been there for over a decade!
Actually, There's A Law Down Here In Florida That States That You Don't Have To Change Anything If You've Lived There For At Least 7 Years Or More. I Don't Remember The Exact Term, But I Learned That Recently In School. There Might Be Other States That Also Have This. This Is Why It's Good To READ And Keep A Copy Of Everything You Sign. 💕 💕
✨ I Apologize If My Writing With Capital Letters Inconveniences Anyone. I Suffer From OCD. ✨
That particular house is in Rogers County, Oklahoma. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t get a variance based on the building codes in place when the home was built.
They can pretty much force you to do whatever they want. The contracts are as vague as possible, and once you sign, you don't own the house. Don't sign, and find another house.
@@yodelissosa7791 Don't Apologize for Being yourself.
@@yodelissosa7791 how about some consideration for readers who have a compulsion to avoid capitals?
I've lived in military bases in family housing and it was nowhere near as tough or abusive as HOAs can be.
That's scary that the military is less tough than an HOA:=)
In the barracks if you forgot to open your blinds during the day you would come home after work to no blinds lol. It was funny bc there was a good half dozen or more rooms with no blinds. At night it became more obvious.
I lived on a sub base. The rules were more about safty issues.
@@debrabaier1894 Amen to that! I only got in trouble with housing once and it was for not watering the yard in December. We were in Long Beach, CA. I told the lady at the office that I was unaware of that rule because where I’m from, the grass is supposed to be dead in the winter! She withdrew the write up. We used to stand at our front doors and turn all our porch lights off at exactly 7:59 so the snitch in the golf cart didn’t slap a sticky note on our doors for having the light on after 8am. 😂
Makes sense. When you have committees (and based have loads of those) you get busybodies who vote themselves more and more power. The military will have a guiding hand. They need housed personnel. An HOA has no-one to stop them.
It no longer exists, but my neighborhood had a property owners association. I still recall the look on the POA officer's face when I said we hadn't signed anything. He said something about having the realtors let the POA know when a house is sold. I explained we'd inherited our house. The look on his face after that was priceless.
😂😂😂
Poa should be band and outlawed and any one thing of starting one put in jail.
I sold my HOA home and bought one in a non-HOA area. I have never regreted that decision
Our HOA demanded we enroll our dog in dog obedience classes AND only walk her muzzled. She’s a nine year old, 15 pound dog who has never been off leash for even one minute. She has never bit anyone in her life, she just barks at people she doesn’t know. We got her some training and she’s much improved, but there is no way I’m muzzling this old, sweet in every other way dog. I will fight them to the Supreme Court 😉
Your dog is so cute!
I bet you had the same reaction I did when I saw that beautiful, precious golden retriever who was poisoned by the damn HOA spraying chemicals... I'm so angry that anyone would do that, knowing residents have pets! NO excuse for that!
I remember when my aunt's adorable teacup poodle was poisoned and killed by a neighbor who sprayed RoundUp on the part of my aunt's yard where little "Inky" went potty. I think they did it on purpose to be jerks. Inky stayed indoors 95% of the time, and she rarely barked. Broke my aunt's heart!
I own a home and what you could euphemistically call, a questionable part of town. And I would rather live here with the crime and neglect from the city than live in an HOA community. Here I can do what I want with my property, that I own, and that I paid for, without having some self-appointed neighborhood Warden looking over my shoulder. People here leave you alone. I question the intelligence of anybody who would buy a home knowing it was part of a homeowners association.
That's my thinking when I bought my first house - go live in wife-and-two-kids ville and be told what I can and cannot do with my own money, or go live in a suburb dating to the mid 70s and enjoy life.
Later on we sold up and moved to a rural block - nearest neighbours are over 200m away and we don't bother each other.
Till you get the nasty neighbor who shots fireworks late at night, has parties at all times of the the night, drives on your lawn.
HOAs and their cousin, POAs (property owners association), are pure evil and breeding grounds for every pocket dictator Karen.
@@gersonsantos5416 I've got all of those things, except the drive on the lawn part. It's not a big deal. They're my neighbors, and I get along with them. It's still better than an HOA. I can't believe what absolute weenies Americans have turned into. I grew up in a time before HOAs and gated communities. We held our personal freedom to do what we please as long as we don't hurt anybody else in higher regard. I'm absolutely appalled at how easily we are willing to hand over our freedom to somebody else in exchange for,... What? Uniformity? That's pathetic. Some sheep just want to make sure that all the other sheep look just like them. I've noticed that these homeowners associations always exist in predominantly white neighborhoods. Do you really think that's a coincidence? And before you ask, yes, I'm White.
Correct. Don’t buy one there. It’s so simple. I never have understood the problem. Buy there, don’t. What exactly, is the beef?
I'm glad we don't have HOA's in the UK. Sounds like a bloody nightmare. If one of my neighbours complained about my tree house I would just build another one closer to their boundary. They don't though, most of the time they are in the tree house enjoying a scotch with me.
Yeah but you have town councils, no?
In Scotland we have factors in some places to take care of common facilities. It is competitive, they send a report every year including next year's charge. But a vote by the home owners can oust them and appoint new factors.
@@charlestaylor9424 HOA's are largely run by home owner volunteers, and any owner cant stand for election, as in your unions. the alternative is to live in Compton and deal with derelict vehicles blocking fire, ambulance, and police response and NOT being able to get to grandma and get her OUT of the burning house. Posters think "getting rid" of something automatically makes it better. Probably never voted in their life OR had any assets to protect. , either.
@@8ofwands300Yeah Town Councils in some places, but I have never ever needed to have any contact with them about anything. It would not be them telling you if any trees or shrubs should be trimmed for example, and they only do it if dangerous or overgrowing a public path not on the grounds of it looking messy.
Your treehouse sounds fun
I’ll never understand why someone would choose to live in an HOA.
Cheap to move there?
Exactly, it is a choice.
@@mistywilliams7826 Getting to be less and less of a choice, at least in my metro area. It's really hard to find a decent house here that isn't in an HOA. But well worth the search, imo
@@rhysplaysvirtual yes! We tried very hard to not live in one but it seemed every house near our jobs and schools were in an HOA. Luckily, the HOA we ended up with is fairly chill.
See that's the thing. People CHOOSE to move in...they even sigh a contract saying they agreed to the the terms upon moving in, and pay monthly dues....so why then do people act surprised when they have rules to follow? How about move somewhere outside of the HOA and shut up
My neighborhood used to have a very basic HOA. No weird rules & they only charged $75 for the whole year. No one really enforced anything, including payment, so there were a couple of families who never paid anything eventhough they were quite well-off. Without fail, every time the HOA had a catered block party, these families would show up together with a bag full of empty tupperware. They would stay & enjoy themselves for a while but before they left they would fill up all of their tupperware containers with the catered food. The food that was paid for with a portion of our HOA fees that they never once paid. The first time everyone was too shocked to say anything. The second time some of the more outspoken neighbors confronted them (this time they were taking food as soon as it was put out so there might not be enough food for everyone else). The third time someone took the bag of tupperware & hid it. When one of the ladies came back to the table & saw the bag was gone she started yelling. Everyone plaid dumb & she never found it. They showed up to one other party without a bag but didn't stay very long. I haven't seen them since.
I mean they are greedy and inconsiderate but smart not to pay the HOA fees.
Wow the audacity of some people is unreal... just shameless.
Lemme see if I got this right:
1. You buy a house. It happens to be in an HOA neighborhood.
2. You cannot opt out of membership in that association.
3. HOAs charge residents yearly dues.
4. HOAs may arbitrarily fine homeowners for common activities conducted on their own properties.
5. HOAs take liberties on privately owned properties.
6. Homeowners have no say, and presumably no recourse on HOA actions/decision?
7. Neighborhoods are increasingly HOA neighborhoods, meaning that home buyers have fewer non-HOA options.
8. The USA: land of the free???
#8: land of the free my ass. Y'all are just about as free as taliban-ruled Afghanistan.
@@S.D.P. Y'all? Some of us don't live in the US. But overall, I agree. People in the US have the illusion of freedom while being bilked at every turn.
True. Freedom is the carrot
@@drkrishnap And when you look closer the “carrot” is actually a painted stick of dynamite. 🥕🧨
Don't live in a house that has an HOA.
The tree fort at 1:13
Sort of reminds me of another Pandemic Fort in a neighborhood near my parents. When they started building (not in an HOA!) their neighbors sent them a note via the Messenger Macaw (he loves carrying messages to people) and instead of being all upset, they asked “Can we help? And make it big and sturdy enough to hold adults as well as kids?”
Honestly, it looks awesome!
There are some amazing tree forts/houses out in the world!! Tree mansions, in some cases!
I can't stand people who get annoyed by the sound of children laughing and playing, I think that's the most beautiful sound on earth!
That's the reason I got to adopt my wonderful border collie, Joey, 12 years ago. He was a rambunctious puppy, his first owner got him as a gift to grow up with her baby daughter. There were two small children already in the household who adored Joey, and he guarded them very seriously.
One day, the drunken jerk next door came over to yell obscenities at the two little kids playing in the yard too loudly for his hangover (probably). Drunk guy comes through the gate into JOEY'S yard, and yells at Joey's children! Aw HELL NO! Joey bit him, hard.
The animal control was coming the next day to take Joey to be euthanized, so his owner put a panicked plea out for someone to rescue him (literally). Yes, I broke speed limits to get there!
It was love at first sight, and Joey has been my BFF for 12 years. He's sleeping at my feet right now.
I love him more than I loved either of my ex-husbands, TBH.
I have a video on my channel of the day he was a hero and found two newborn baby goats that the Mama goat somehow forgot where she had them.
Joey is the kind of dog they make movies about, and I'm so lucky to have him.
@@LazyIRanch I watched your video! Joey is a beautiful treasure 😊
That sums up what having a good neighbour is all about.
And that's how it should be.
Here in Australia, we have a saying for organizations like the HOA....
"Big frogs in little puddles"
Fellow (60) Aussie here. I've never heard that saying but I like it. 😊
In the U.K we say, "Big fish in a small pond."
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 We say that in Australia too.
@@grannym2880 Must be a Queensland cane toad thing.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 I've heard that one! The "big frogs in little puddles" reminds me of this classic poem by Emily Dickinson:
I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody too?
Then there's a pair of us! - don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know!
How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring Bog!
(yes, I'm that nerdy girl no boy would look at in high school, Emily spoke to me personally!)
I will NEVER live in a neighborhood with an HOA. This shouldn’t be legal.
Note to self: don’t live where there are HOA’s!
Just remember kids, when taking your children to the "required" park the HOA insist you take them to. If you get in an accident on the way to and/or from....I would sue their pants off. When my kids could just be playing in the backyard!
You cant. That is forbidden in the contract, too...The only winning move when it co.es to an HOW, is not to buy the house in one...And, present hoa conditions in no way reflect future hoa conditions. MANY PEOPLE have learned that the hard way...New management takes over, and it becomes a concentration camp.
We bought our home the year we married; some 25 years ago. It did have an HOA with a very cheap annual fee of less than $100 a year) but as luck would have it, it was an older established community and was pretty much dissolved the year I moved in, with one exception. The very last lot at the end was taken over by the association to prevent the town from creating a street through and thus keeping our roads open to just us homeowners. It was decided that the association would continue insomuch as existing to pay for the annual taxes on the lot and those who chose to (since the 'fee' was dissolved as well) would continue giving their fee annually for that purpose. But I totally agree; I would never move anywhere now if HOAs are involved. No one is going to tell me what I can or cannot do on my own property. That's ludicrous.
How do the HOA have power are they pout in place by the developer? If a person sells they have to get the new owner to sign up for it or they cant buy the house? Inheritance should get around it?
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 that’s exactly right.
No one out here is inheriting homes, wtf?
@@asmodiusjones9563 Are you familiar with USA HOAs?
How do they have authority of inherited houses? I can understand how it must be written into all sales the new owner must follow the HOA rules.
We dont have sub bs here. There is very minor things that are enforced on new developments.
EG No ariels above roof is a standard one.
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 search for the phrase “the covenant runs with the land”, it’s a specific term of art.
In the UK we would tell them to go forth and multiply. AKA F@#₩ off.
From all of the stories I've read/heard about HOAs, I think the best solution would be for all persons seeking to buy a home to inform the realtors that they won't even look at a home in an HOA.
My parents fired a realtor after they told him they didn't want to look at houses with HOAs, & he took them to 3 houses in a row with HOAs.
They still show them, anyway...Realators get a higher commission from HOA properties. Often going so far as to conceal it until the day of signing...Do your DD before submitting an offer. Make %100 certain no HOA, exists.
I swear H.O.A.'s, should be illegal. Seriously.
It’s appalling that anyone wouldn’t think so seriously. It’s feudalism. Supposed to have ended in around 1600
I certainly agree.
I think they should be severely limited, mainly to have jurisdiction over community property, but not homes.
That way, if Karen is letting her dogs relieve themselves on the tennis courts, we can fine her into oblivion.
And I think it is reasonable to keep yards tidy, but there is a line between order and authoritarianism.
Yeah, maybe let them power trip on comm. prop. 👍😁
@KJ Rasberry I won't live there.
Was a real estate broker for many years. No HOA'S for me. When I sold a home, I explained to the prospective homeowners what they were getting into, & asked them to read and understand all the HOA docs and the CC&R's. I explained as much of them as time would allow. Every time.
Thank you. I wish our broker did that for us. We didn’t even know what an HOA was before they came knocking on our door because our TV satellite was apparently violating regulations. And about 4 months later, we had to spray paint our beautiful terracotta roof dark brown😢.
The skeleton with a Santa hat- “Jack! Jack not again! And where is your suit?! Go home! Sally’s probably worried!’
I live about 2 short blocks from the nearby elementary school. When my kids were that age, every day their friends would stop at our house on the way home and play for 30 min to an hour. We had 10-12 kids in our yard playing every school day, whooping and hollering, having fun. I kept a stack of paper cups beside the refrigerator. They all thought it was cool to get water from the door of the fridge instead of opening it up. They were told they were free to drink all the water they wanted, they knew where it was. Bathroom, too. I realized we were blessed to be the home where other kids felt safe to play. No HOA's around here!
Glad I don't live in a HOA neighborhood because if I did I'd probably be serving hard time in jail after some moronic karen tried to enforce some bulls rule or alter my property to suit their agenda.
Live in Scotland UK. Nothing like that here but I would never join an HOA and anyone trespassing on my property would fear for their lives.
First NEVER move into a neighborhood that had a HOA!!! Second if they had caused that kind of health damage to my dog….I would sue for them using something so toxic that it does this kind of damage
They are required to let you opt out of the spraying too. Doing it without even warning them is totally illegal
if they had done that to my dog the entire HOA board would have been forced feed drain cleaner
My father's HOA didn't approve of the color he wanted to have his house painted. So, he picked the most obnoxious color on that list. It was in Florida. So, it was technically called coral. It was a pepto pink. They then just started to knit pick little things because they got owned. He sold his house and moved.
I thought the pepto pink house was beautiful, but then again, I live in Mexico!
It’s sad that he moved. That means he let the HOA win.
@BryanC-h1j he moved because his wife got a better job in Orlando. Trust me, he wouldn't let the HOA win.
I’m not a violent man by any measure but my home and sovereignty are paramount to me. I’d be in jail by the end of the first week. No doubt about it
You would last longer than me.
Yikes 😳!
“No kids playing in the yards. Even though you paid for said yards…”
Solution to these problems: Never live where a HOA is.
Or just look for a HOA that is not so strict
@@Viivlet they can change with time though , so NO HOA is the best option. ( make sure the contract is rock solid that the HOA can't change the rules later if you decide to not head that advise )
The level of pettiness and frivolity in today’s empty America.
This can only happen in a country where petty fascists are allowed to rule. Thank God I was born in a truly free nation.
Amen 🙏🏼
The Americans love to preach ‘freedom’ … but they can only really experience freedom outside of their borders !! 🤔
@Future Pants thank you for confirming that you have not travelled (other than that daily excursion of drifting between faux TV and Info Wars.)
@@jeremyreid9582 I hear you. Too many people think freedom means doing whatever the F they want.
You realize these pictures are from America, right?
@@chelseasheehan9227 Yes, and...?
It never ceases to amaze me the length people are willing to go to make other peoples lives uncomfortable. As if they have nothing better to do than to think of ways to make everybody else's lives as miserable as possible. The entitlement that some people think they have is immeasurable. If you cannot contribute anything of valuable to society, then please just stay in your house and be happy within your own space.
HOA was giving me hassle ONCE my revenge when they went on holiday 10 female mice and 2 males "found" there way into his cellar along side a pile of food
I worked for an HOA maintenance company that waisted money so badly that they brought in a scuba diver to tell us the correct depth of the pools. I guess a tape measure is too expensive. Ps they also paid to have his tanks refilled!
I lived with HOA for six years. It was totally dysfunctional because the HOA went bankrupt due to half of the units being empty. The builder also went bankrupt. At the same time, I lost my job. I abandoned my unit and so did everyone else that lived there. Then the bank went bankrupt too. A six-year nightmare.
I will never understand why someone would want to live in a community with an HOA
I would never live in a home stuck with an HAO. Are they even really legal? Some of them are so ridiculous, they should be taken to court.
Yes. They are legal. Other than illegal or sexual, they can put pretty much whatever they want in the contract...They could theoretically stipulate what clothes residents are allowed to wear... However, no one can force you to sign anything...
Will never buy a house in an HOA, and if the neighbor hood tries to start one and I have assholes knocking on my door pressuring me to join, I only need to give them one warning before I am legally allowed to defend my castle. Hope their insurance is paid up.
Likewise! The problem with HOAs is that they tend to be a group of Karens who are given an ounce of power and then wield it like an iron club. That little bit of authority makes them think they own your home.
Granted, if you buy a home in an HOA community you must sign the contract and abide by its stipulations, but some of them are simply nuts. A very long time ago I knew a man whose job was to go around setting up HOAs. The first one he did was in his neighborhood. One of the rules was "no pickup trucks". Even if your truck was parked in your garage, out of sight, it was not allowed. They "degrade the property values in the neighborhood". Another rule was that your garage door could not be left open for more than a few minutes. Too unsightly. Yikes.
@@fairygoth-mother7341 HOAs can really screw up homeowners, too. They can put liens on the properties if you don't follow their little rules. Very wicked.
I'm with you but you can't do that in every state.
@@joewoodchuck3824 You can in mine :)
@@robertsissco2439Each state is different though, and it's wise and prudent to know the applicable law for wherever you are when crossing state lines.
I'm always baffled by HOAS. It brings out terrible acts of pettiness.
My sister is a real estate agent. She showed a house in an HOA. Couldn't help but laugh about one of the other houses flying a Gadsden flag 😂. It's like dude! You moved into a neighborhood that tramples on your freedoms all day long. Why did you move there?
..... " Why did you move there?..... EXACTLY!!!!!
Re: advice to check for HOA when buying property. That doesn't guarantee that they won't try to form one afterward, nor the overzealous ones that won't recognize the limits of the property their HOA controls and harass adjacent properties like I hear so much.
It's nice to have a "nice neighborhood", but there has to be a better way than egocentric, narcissistic overbearing people in charge who have nothing better to do than be petty over some arbitrary rules thought up by some committee, typically behind closed doors and not voted on by actual membership.
Condo associations fall under the same broad category.
I can't imagine HOA houses are of much value when you have Karens telling you what to do and fining you if you don't. They must sell real cheap.
They don't, though. They trend towards affluent homeowners. That's why they're so uptight, among other things, it's the idea they might lose a buck when they sell.
was looking for a house last year as we outgrew the one we were in. my realtor wanted to show us one that was basically everything we told her we wanted. when she told us about hoa fees on the way there I immediately said eff that and we went to the next place.
Saw this somewhere: What do you call a group of Karens? An HOA.
H=Horrible O=overbearing A=A holes
Part of the problems with HOAs are the nosy people who need to report everything whether it bothers anyone or not.
Go to a HOAs meeting , have your neighbors call for a change in president's and secretary
You'll be president , anyone disagrees make sure the next meeting the trouble maker gets voted out and another neighbor takes their place
Ah the one with the fantastic natural flower garden rather than the required grass, that is sad, here in Florida HOAs cannot compel you to have a lawn, you are allowed by state law to have xeriscaping. And a lawn is really hard to maintain when watering restrictions allow only a 4 hour window on your assigned day per week. Even if you have an automatic setup to do that your water bill is going to be well over $100 per month if you water a lawn.
I sold my condo 8 years ago partly, because I was fined $75 for a hole in my screen. You couldn’t fit a pencil through it. Time to move…..
Think they put it there to get their paws on your condo? Nothing suprises me anymore. Gentrification, retaliation, bullying, thuggery, ageism, sexism, anti immigrant etc.
Okay, but do you mean a pencil like in that one guy's front yard? :D
Why the heck have people got to be so petty , I cant believe people have to actually pay a fee to these associations and get treated like this .....unbelievable
Simple: "Because I can..."
I sold my really nice condo because the HOA said if I did not remove the bushes I planted, they would remove them because they were not the authorized kind. Funny, because I got the bushes off the authorized list they sent me.😊
A co-worker of mine has an HOA. No holiday decorating at all. No wreaths on the door. No flags. No decorative door mats, only "functional" mats are allowed. No potted plants anywhere. No birdbaths. Regulates what type of trees you MUST have planted on your property: two trees minimum. Her neighbor was fined because she'd left her drapes open and her Christmas tree and other INDOOR ornamentation were visible from the street view.
Sooo...she's PAYING to stay inside a jail?!!! Yeah...No!! Hard pass!
'merica land of the free ...
HOA: hold my beer
I think it would be more like
HOA: You can't have that beer. Throw it in the trash.
Some of these things I would take them to court on.
Telling me my home is too close to the curb, move it or tear it down!???
It was there before the HOA was formed, you can’t touch it or fine them.
The sidewalk through my side yard.
I would call my mortgage company and see if they can sic their lawyers on the HOA 1) for stealing property without paying for it.
2) damage to property (the pipes) make them fix it.
My property tax and mortgage is based on the lot size and not on where the HOA wanted to put a sidewalk after I bought the property.
If someone sprayed toxic chemicals and made my dog sick.......I'm coming to thier house with a mallet. Break all those pretty windows!
I was born a preacher's kid in the Methodist denomination. Ministers in this denomination have housing provided for them, and permission for interior design/repainting by the family has to be run by the pastor-parish relations committee. Sometimes it's granted, sometimes it's not. It depends on how many old fogies and/or control freaks are on the committee, and much change you want to spring on those *really* old fogies who crave control. Sometimes you get lucky, and get a bunch of artsy, creative types who actually enjoy a change of pace once in a while. But in all honesty, that's really rare.
But I'm telling ya -- if ya wanna get an appetizer, a taste of HOA behavior before signing such a contract, go talk to any Methodist minister or minister's spouse, if you're not already part of such a church. They'll tell you to run, not walk, away. Because 9 times out of 10, the local PPR committee for any Methodist church is gonna be made of similar control-freaky peeps. I speak from personal experience watching my parents go through hell. Bad enough my own grandmother was a "Karen."
" . . . the land of the free, and the home of the brave?"
Some Americans sneer at this Brit for being a 'subject', whereas they are 'citizens'? Yeah, right, 'citizens' - keep grovelling to the power-crazed aristocrats of your HOAs . . .
It's beyond parody.
Thanks for the reminder to never live in an HOA!
Hoa in my northern cabin property.was giving me grief about a porch/deck I had on the front of my home It was 6" from ground so it did not need a rail....went to court several times over the issue..I then filed complaints about head of Hoa his daughter had garage built but no siding on it it was tyvek insulation boards a real eye sore...every week for 5 months wrote a complaint...then sued the head of Hoa for favoritism...got some cash and judge made him resign ..could not hold office in Hoa for 5 years
Some people hate freedom. They need to have people telling them what to do, and they love to bully others. I’ve run into them a few times, and talking to them doesn’t work, suing them doesn’t work, the only thing that works is to find out who they are and where they live, and turn their life into a living hell. Call the police on them, keep waking them up serving legal papers, whatever it takes. I worked with one who had her house set on fire twice before she’d stop her insane bullying. She destroyed multiple people’s lives and careers along the way.
I think it’s great when people who moved into an HOA complain. You knew what you were getting into😂
No, I don’t believe they did! Our niece and her husband bought a house in an HOA subdivision and learned a life lesson. They thought the HOA would mostly keep people from parking motor homes and boats in the yard for life. Which the HOA rightly did, but then came much, much, more!
And here I was, thinking America was a land of freedom ... 😳
It is. As long as you understand how to exercise your freedom.
It's ironic too because so many of these HOAs are in red states... FL and AZ.
You can not be governed and free at the same time.
I couldn't be paid any amount to live with an HOA.
Totally! If I inherited a home attached to an hoa? I would sell
I remember when HOA’s started in Chicago. My late husband was an electrician and worked on some of the first apartment to condo conversions and all the HOA was supposed to do was cover costs for summer lawn upkeep and outside painting when required, anything to do with the roof and common inside stairways/elevators and snow and ice removal.
Sounds like that’s more of a condominium association, but they can be just as bad. They are quite popular in Canada (never heard of an HOA in Canada). They extract condo fees; my friend’s condo fees went from just over $100/month until almost $300 in the 18 years he lived there. They do snow removal, mowing lawns of the common area, and other regular maintenance. The condo board owned the outside; there were regular meetings where each owner had a vote. They replaced windows one year, siding another and were sort of ok. But when my friend wanted to install a satellite dish; holy crap! Some “board member” storms over and says that it can’t be mounted where it was being put! My friend retorted that it was the only place that gave him a signal! Guy went back to his place, got a ladder and was going to use it to “uninstall” the dish. My friend called the cops, guy gets belligerent and gets arrested! Condo board said he overstepped his role and was fired! My friend was allowed to keep his dish where it was!
Point is that condo boards and HOAs attract power hungry bullies who probably couldn’t get into the police academy!
now that kind of hoa I can deal with
No way would I ever move to a development that has a HOA. Everyone I know that lives in one complains alot about the overbearing self serving people on the board, who make ridiculous rules.....👍✌💖
There would be huge problems if someone sprayed harmful chemicals in my yard without my knowledge or permission, especially if those chemicals harmed my beloved animals. I'm not sure a lawsuit would be enough to quell my anger.
A PROPERLY run HOA can be a wonderful thing in keeping the community neat and tidy while maintaining communal property (playgrounds/pools/etc.). That being said, I do not or ever intend to live in a community that has an HOA because you have a better chance of being the solo winner of a major lottery jackpot than finding a PROPERLY run HOA!
the road to HOA is paved with good intentions
Refused to buy a home in an HOA when we bought our home in 2012.
7:20 next day receives a fine for having house numbers obstructed
Do HOAs, make new home owners sign some sort of legal agreement? Is it even legal to fine people who don't comply? Why would anyone want to live in a place like that?
Yes. When you purchase an HOA home, there’s a PUD rider recorded with your mortgage stating you agree to the covenants and restrictions and any future amendments thereto. If you pay cash, you still have to agree to and abide by the rules.
We “had” a lady who ran the HOA in our neighborhood like it was the first time she had a chance to be in charge of something. Way overboard on everyone, throwing fines at everyone like free frisbees. Until a group of us ran for local office. In the end i won . We no longer have an HOA but what we do have is a happy , beautiful neighborhood that looks better than it did when old miss “fine-me” was in charge of things. Ill be stepping down soon and a wonderful , smart, thoughtful lady will be taking my seat for the next term and she will be great. We will stay happy. Sometimes you have take an extra step or two for the good of things. 👍😉
0:48 - I like it! And I hope it drove the HOA head NUTS!
1:29 - Oh, God, that's just inexcusable! Poor dog! I hope s/he recovered!
4:28 - I feel like whoever designed this actively disliked dogs.
5:42 - Then what's the point of even having an HOA?!
6:50 - Will there be snacks?
That's why I opted out of a neighborhoods with HOA's😐😜. I'm not going to spend over $100,00 on a home for someone else to tell me what I can and can not do to my house and lawn. When the member/members of the board start paying my mortgage then and ONLY then will they be allowed to voice their opinion!
2:28. What???? She was fined for moving her car? Or perhaps for allowing it to snow?
Yup. Fined for moving her car.
I very happily sold my condo a few years ago, to live in a NON-HOA single family house. So many Karens in that place, prudes with nothing better to do. Fined me because my plants weren't doing well on my balcony, fined me because I put a pumpkin on the balcony at Halloween, fined me because I didn't return their nosey info sheet.. Only curtains/shades with a white backing allowed.. Only allowed to use one locksmith who charged 80.00 per a KEY, and 300 to replace a lock, INSANE! Had to send them pictures of any dogs or cats that lived in your house... it was ridiculous! They easily called you twenty times a day if they had a complaint, but if you had an issue the management person was suddenly unreachable! I started putting the word penitentiary after the name of the condo place anytime I sent paperwork back to them, including the none of your damn business information sheet they required! It's ok if someone doesn't mind the lifestyle of being told what you can and cannot do, like you are living with your parents again, but just not for me, and I was stuck there for 9 years because I bought right before the crash. Moving day, getting the hell out of that place was the best day of my life... ironically while my friends and I were moving my furniture out we had to prop the doors open because our hands were too full to open the doors each time, and prude came along demanding we. not prop the doors open. I promptly asked her if she was willing to stay there for the next few hours to open the doors for us each time we came out with some boxes and furniture, that promptly shut her up!! UGH, NEVER again, until I am too old to do the yard work!
My wife and I purposely avoided buying a home in a neighborhood with an H.O.A.
There is no way you could get me to live in a HOA neighborhood. Those people are power happy.
NEVER , EVER, buy a home with a HOA , you've been warned, now stop giving these people power over YOUR lives.
I live in an hoa, and had I known what that was before we bought the house, I would never in my life have considered it. Isn't that what cities are for? To regulate to make sure people don't have horrible violations? Other than that, just let people enjoy their lives.
Next house you buy, IF you can sell the one you're in ... get a lawyer to read the contract BEFORE you sign.
I have a friend who lived in a lakeside neighborhood where the HOA said boats must be stored out of view from the street. Not allowed to have a boat in your driveway.
Had a friend who had a lakeside cabin. The association banned clothes lines. If you had wet towels after swimming better put them in the clothes dryer. Very rich area.
Lol. My dad used to complain about the neighbirs keeping a boat in the driveway
If I cover it with some bedsheets sewn together it won't be *visible.* :D
At 1:53 Well at least Santa Claus died doing what he loved: finding his way onto people's roofs so he can deliver presents.😀
We have an HOA at Legacy Lakes in NC. Rules for thee and not for me and my friends attitude. I can’t wait to move out.
When I was looking for a house I told the realtor I wouldn't even look at any property with an HOA.
We do not have an HOA in Sweden. We talk to the neighbors
and we have almost no fences either.
Sweden is seriously cited as being full of wonderful sensible humans. Like, why can't we all be more like Sweden?!
@@lazyhomebody1356 Jeupp.
If I lived in the No Farting in the Elevator apartments I’m loading up with Beans & Cabbage and leaving some Gut Busters in there 😂
I've met my HOA guy and he's actually pretty chill
I call HOAs "capitalunes" Because as a commune is a dictatorship of the proletariat, an HOA is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
in the Netherlands HOA's only excist in a appartment complex, for a normal house these are outlawed because they conflict with your legal property rights, if i want a wild garden neighbours can complain all they want only when my garden causes a dangerous situation like blocking the vieuw for trafiic on a corner the county will summon you to fix it or they will do it at your expense. so you can imagine how amazed i was when i first heard of the HOA's in the USA.
The farts in the elevator “we have cameras we know who you are” like since when did farts show on cameras?! Is this everywhere do I need to never fart in the outside world again?! AM I EVEN SAFE 😳🤣
They probably think they can tell who broke said wind by their facial expression? I'll tell you this much - that would be one rule I'd break on a consistent basis just for the principle of things.
@@blackenedmagic888 my poker face for accidentally wind in public is amazing. The only time I failed was when I forgot I had headphones on so I wasn’t actually covered by the music 😂 luckily it was outdoors and only one other person around who found it hilarious so I was able to speed walk away mortified 😂😂
@@ChaseWilder In my case, it'd be no accident! I've gotten so good at hiding the fact that I have farted that even my girlfriend can't tell when I've dropped one (unless, of course, it has an odor).
@@blackenedmagic888 teach me your ways oh wise master 🙇♂️
Only the *really bad ones* are visible. :-)
Moved to an area, built our dream home in a sparsely populated area. Had a loosely formed HOA of locals, mostly for roadside maintenance. As more people moved in, more rules were made. Became a fight of them vs. us. Alliances were formed and boards were stacked. We sold our beautiful house and moved to an older neighborhood with no HOA. Lovely, friendly neighbors who help out each other when needed.
I'm curious; do HOAs in the USA have any legal standing? We do have what are usually called Residents Associations in the UK but they can't enforce their will. There are councils who can give legal instructions such as if add-ons/ extensions are permitted etc. It seems so counterintuitive for America the land of the free.
I’ve never lived in one but have known a few people that do. I’m certain they have legal standing but I don’t know all the details. They get started by the developer of the neighborhoods. They own it so they set the terms and to buy you have to sign on to agree to them. I would say there are far fewer houses in HOA’s as a percentage but it’s common for newer houses to be in one
I'm not from the US, so I had to google HOA to find out what it is. Guy, this is off the hook! How can anyone put up with this nonsense?
Exactly why i will never buy into a headache like this. No one will ever tell me what I can or can't do on MY PROPERTY. Furthermore, I have cute curb appeal. I style it for a season or holiday. Neighbors stop by and take photos. Some ring my bell and ask if I could help them do their house. And I do.
I'm laughing that the Pink spite house. They really went the extra mile to spite the head of HOA. Not just the house but the brick landscape wall ...and looks like the fountain is also painted pink. XD
In Scotland we have people called factors (usually companies) who charge an annual fee for maintenance but while they might try to be annoying there are laws to let the people whose houses are under them be annoying back. For example factors can be changed by a simple majority vote which the factor must facilitate, any householder can ask for a detailed list of what's been done. the list of things factors can charge for is limited.
Same in Belgium (here they're called a Syndicus). and every year there's a general meeting of all home owners where they have to give an overview of what's been done, how much that cost and other such things. The general meeting also decides on all contracts (like elevator maintenance and the like). They are allowed to do some emergency stuff (if a pipe bursts, they are allowed to call someone to have it fixed for instance without calling a general meeting) but even then they will have to show the bill on the general meeting and if they get too expensive, they can indeed easily be replaced. And the agenda of the general meeting has to be circulated in advance (and a point 'other business' is not allowed), so as home owner you can't complain that you didn't know a point was on the agenda.
One of my friends lives in an HOA in Texas where they require only one type of tree in your front yard, and yes, you have to have the tree. So, the Texas heat keeps killing these trees, so every 6 months or so he has to buy a new tree!!
I wonder how long he could get away with an artificial one.
Good grief. This is mental. Thankfully here in the UK there are no such things as HOAs. Just mental. Just crazy.
I thank the stars every day that I’m in the UK and not in a place where stuff like this is normal.
It's not like it's a secret if a property has an HOA. If people would simply not buy,they would go away.
If people stopped buying homes in such places then it would end. Stupid people have to live with stupid decisions.
5:00 - I think that HOA that put up gates between sections is in violation. How do emergency vehicles get through? Every second is critical. They do not have time to play HOA games.
Did I read that correctly about the guy who kept getting his classic car towed from his property NOT part of the HOA community - their garage doors had to be left open during daylight hours?? WTF??!! There would be no way I would leave my garage door open while I was at work all day!! It would be like putting a sign on my house that says "Come on in! Take my stuff!! I won't be home for hours!!"