I’m a contractor, I used to work for Clayton doing warranty work. I remember having sympathy for the young families that I didn’t feel got treated fairly by Clayton.
@@Poppi-G do you have an manufacture home builders you recommend? We’re in the northeast so we only have Clayton, Titan and a few other to choice from 😳
Those salesmen are slick. I stopped by a dealer just to get prices and walked off the lot with a doublewide on order. When I had changed my mind, I saw in the contract that until I had delivery of the home I was able to get all my down payment back. They would only give me half back, so then I filed in small claims for the rest at which point they finally paid the remainder.
Unfortunately, the same thing happened to me. They promised that all of the issues would be resolved before the home was delivered. Problems were immediate- zero caulking, faulty hardware, shoddy flooring, defective everything. My home is shifting and cracking; siding wasn't installed correctly. One contractor came out twice over the course of nearly a year until they ran the warranty out. This guy isn't lying. Buyer's Remorse is REAL!
We purchased a clayton home in 2020. It took over a year and was a massive pain. I was on site everyday and I just walked into the house without asking. Id randomly show up and pull my self right on in. I’d point out every single thing. Then I’d text it to have it in writing. I got an inspector and really made them mad. Honestly, I might be the reason they don’t let people in the houses anymore. Wouldn’t suggest Clayton to my worst enemy.
Thank you for the info; I got a Clayton home in 2021 today in 2024; cabinets slip out of the socket as well as the kitchen cabinets! The siding is bucking as well however 90 o/o is comfortable and affordable. Clayton is willing to work with us on these issues in Bossier La.; suggest u do a 2 yr. plan before moving in.
When i saw the 20% interest rate on my quote, I said no. It was $900 a month for 30 years. I would have paid over $300k for a $59k loan. That was Vanderbilt Mort.
@nickjaxon1311 30 seconds on Google shows that manufactured home loans can have an interest rate, in 2024, from "4% to 24%"... So will that be a wire or cash?
He is. He's got several issues regarding housing being investigated . He just filed a lawsuit against a software company that price-fixed the rental sector across this whole country. One effort in the suit includes seeking all records of every client subscribed, past and present. Landlords on every level are in trouble, if they participated. There's another digging into everything pertaining to permits, purchase of land and all records for purchased materials as part of investigating real estate prices. He's able to do all this under the radar during all this election campaigning. The media's too busy chewing up candidates.
@@MoonOverHomelessnessI watched that when the DOJ came out after they finished a 2-year investigation... It was not only just the housing market but it was also all of these big corporations. ( That's why our food cost is so high) they were using an algorithm
We almost bought a Clayton mistake when we moved to Alabama.. Someone told us to investigate first, glad we did. Wound up with a quality home built in 1988, solid, well built. Couldnt be happier.
@@stevenkaskus6173 I dont know, was told he was a small local builder. Everything is plumb, square, no sags, doors open and close like new. 36 years old and solidly built.
@@jamesgullo8240 mine was built in 1937. 2x10 floor joists. you can do jumping jacks and it feels like concrete. but it's over a basement. the foundation and basement aren't the best, and neither is the attic, but everything was re-modeled before i bought. even has new water heater, new hvac, new roof, new plumbing, new electrical, new floors, paints, doors, door handles, light fixtures, etc.. even new windows!. the kitchen looks new but it's very basic. basic counter tops, basic dishwasher, basic flattop stove, small white fridge, that's probably the biggest downfall besides the small yard. But, for my price range, it was either go mobile home, or deal with a bunch of repair work myself.. until, i found this house and it was move-in ready. i got lucky with my 3% interest rate. a few months later people began throwing $25k-50k CASH over asking price in my area, even for sub-200k homes. About a month after that, interest rates began skyrocketing. I have a really small yard which is kind of annoying, but i love the house. been here 3 years. if i sold right now i'd pocket about $30-40k after paying taxes/fees/realtor.
@@jamesgullo8240 Smart move. In most circumstances I think it is much better to be able to inspect the house before you pay for it. And the notion of paying for it and THEN having to wait months on end to get something that could end up being poor quality just seems nuts to me.
My husband and I purchased the Clayton home in 2019 and it has been nothing but a headache. The quality is subpar and they never came back to repair things after we noticed and contacted them. And the time that they did send workers out to do "repairs", they were done so poorly that they just ended up messing up within a week or two of them fixing it. However now we are stuck and there's really nothing we can do except make the best out of it and learn from it. But, thank you for trying to warn others so that they don't get swindled by the manufacturer of these homes.
I had to quit working for Champion home builders because of the lack of quality that they were pushing on customers. It is disgusting what they are doing to people.
I hear that but I got a 2019 double wide that I bought brand new haven’t had any issues with it at all 2000 square foot full tape and texture in all the rooms like when you walk into can’t tell your in a mobile home
Maybe it's time for a bunch of us to do another class action lawsuit. They have clearly taken advantage of all of us that just wanted a nice home reasonable payments.
We plan on suing this has been the absolute worst experience of our lives the clayton homes of williamsburg kentucky did the same exact stuff this guy is saying except it was our front door and side door that leaked water for months before they fixed the doors didn't check for mold just painted over it. Trim hanging off walls to the point you could put your hand between the trim and drywall and touch neither they said that was a manufacturing issue. The gm dodged our calls for 3 weeks when we finally got ahold of corporate they told us they told them they couldn't call us back because they were in training. They told us we wouldn't make a payment until we moved in then they let the payment go 4 days late before they paid it dropped credit score 120 points. I would tell anyone stay away from this company I had enough issues I could write a book and it's still going on I sent over a hundred photos of issues to 4 or 5 different people because no one records or writes anything down so just continously have to keep sending the issues to a new person horrible company.
I worked at Clayton for 6 months. My coworkers definitely deceived people. I was told to have more con in me. I refused. I still was leading in sales, but I quit because I was getting people who had longer cases and my manager was mad that I wasn't getting faster cases. I sold to people who knew what they were getting. I wasn't going to push people to get it. They want us to rush people into the fastest possible solution, regardless of how they'll feel afterwards.
@@TimeMachine7773 So happy I found this before I went into contract with them even though I would be buying cash...Warren Buffet!!!! I never knew, thanks!
@@HorsesArePeople2 I told them the truth. I told them the pros and cons. A lot of my customers had situations like, having land with an old mobile home and they wanted to upgrade, which is the most cost efficient way of getting a new home for them.
@@sunshine3914 It is your job to do market research on the products you consider purchasing, where you spend your money matters, resell value is a contributing factor to financial choices. That's called being an adult and handling your life in this capitalist world, however, that does not inherently constitute a complaint or issue. Most people who purchase manufactured homes do not consider resale value because they do not intend to sell, they intend to have a long term home.
My home is solid brick built in 1936, with original hardwood floors, laundry shoot, working fireplace and all of the bells and whistles from that time period. We love this house.
Me and my boyfriend bought a house 4 or 5 years ago. We didn't even look at any houses built after 1940. Ended up with a house with the oldest part built in 1810 (we think). And the newest part built in 1931. It's solid as a rock and cost much less than any of the new houses that were for sale at the time. We love the steam heat, so comfortable in the winter and absolutely silent. And it has style, not a plastic box like the new houses.
We have a 1910 house. Electrical, plumbing, etc already updated. Very solid house. Wife visited a place we had looked into before this, was built in 2017. It was a hard no because it was $100k more, smaller, and had visible (from the outside) serious structural issues. Not impressed with new build quality.
I don't mean to sound facetious, but I've been a builder for 47 years. When they say "they don't build them like they used to", to me it holds a different meaning. In these late and early century homes, fire is a serious issue to consider. You can update electric and heating all you want, but the houses are basically just large chimneys placed on foundations. Also, the lumber spans and headers were never calculated or regulated in most cases. Lots of these houses are so far out of square that doors and windows will never close, and the weight of the plaster never gives up. Yes, there are appealing things about them, but I'd never bite for one. I've simply made too much money fixing them to take the bait. Your best bet for a quality home is something built in the late 1950's when modern dimensional lumber was really becoming a thing, and drywall was first showing up as well. Challenges with these houses normally include small doorways, cramped bathrooms, and small bedrooms but a buyer should know this going into it. As for today, you can get a very very high quality home built for you, but you'll have to have deep pockets and know what to ask for. I wouldn't want to be a home buyer not knowing what I know...
@@smartysmarty1714 to be fair on this, the house next to mine is 110 years old and a giant money pit for all that money in your bank account. Some should just be taken down so you can start from scratch and save a lot of time and money (Until you find all of that lovely asbestos). Renovations are like a box of chocolates..... Older buildings are a challenge, more so if you expect something as unreasonable as dimensional lumbar. From the engineering side of things, the old ones that are still in great shape are seriously overbuilt. A 1950's era house you run into some serious potential health hazards built into the home in addition to room size issues. Modern construction you can get your money's worth, but it's not going to be cheap for the level of quality you expect or want. As a regulator the contractors I deal with are a mixed bag. Some get pretty unhappy that I actually hold them up to that minimum standard prescribed for in the law. Others are glad for it as it makes them better and helps show the customer that they are better.
Consult an attorney about filing a lawsuit and call your Attorney General’s Office to get them involved and call your local TV station and give them some free TV interviews.
Trust no one . Google and read these Code 1. 42 U.S. Code Chapter 70 2. 24 CFR Part 3280 3. 24 CFR PART 3282 4. 24 CFR PART 3285 5. 24 CFR PART 3286 6. Administration duties and responsibilities. Rule 603 WATCH OUT FOR THE VICIOUS 🐍 AROUND AND INSIDE THE RETAILERS LOT.
@@andreavandekleut6379 They made sure you signed a Binding Dispute Resolution Agreement. We still don't know how we "signed" that contract, it says you can't sue them but they can sue you, that is why you don't see much lawsuits vs Clayton Homes.
@@stevenkaskus6173 We cant because of the Binding Dispute Resolution Agreement, but Clayton Homes can sue us in court though, we just can't sue them in any way.
I joined a group on Facebook for ppl who have bought or are thinking of buying a Clayton home. The stories that get posted in that group with pictures are absolutely appalling. There’s ppl literally letting the banks repossess their home and ruining their credit score, because it’s the better option than continuing to pay off the product Clayton sold them. So glad I joined that group and did my research on them or else I could have very easily been in the same position as them.
We bought a Clayton home not knowing about their business practices. We had some major issues that still r not taken care of. Lied to and deceived from the start. Wish I would have seen this video before we ever decided on getting our Clayton home. Bought our land and thought Clayton homes were the way to go. Boy were we wrong!!!
@theresahorswill709 We went to Morgan & Morgan they sued in our behalf and we won. They needed to have tried to fix things at least three times. Maybe you've talked to a lawyer.
When I was in the industry 20 years ago, Clayton was known as the Worst. Sorry, that happen to you. I find you have to do a lot of research. On the internet and reading comments.
Why would you make such a large purchase without doing any research...its mind boggling. This company would be out of business by now if people would wise up a drop.
@@Jdalio5 Same with this guy in the video. Who makes a purchase like this solely on advertising and a well made website? I don’t feel sorry for people can’t research their purchases especially a home!!??!
I just wanted to say that I had 2 home inspectors that missed some very important and expensive repairs that had to be done several years ago. Also I had real estate attorney that missed the fine print on a contract!! That's why it's extremely important to do research and get recommendations from reviews that look authentic as well as people you know!!!
If you hired a conventional home inspector, they do know what they are doing. These homes are not built to the IRC. HUD has its own standards and the homes are engineered.
Clayton Homes Was Located in Alcoa, Tennessee - Just a Few Miles From Knoxville .. Alcoa Aluminum / Huge Amazon Distribution Warehouse .. From the 1990’s til Around 2010 .. Clayton Homes Was a Respectable Brand .. BUT, Just a Few Years Ago, Warren Buffet and His Band of Wall Street Marauders Bought Out Clayton Homes .. and IMMEDIATELY, The QUALITY SANK - While the PRICES DOUBLED and in Some Cases, TRIPLED .. Wall Street Hedge Fund Speculators Have KILLED THE UNITED STATES in Housing / Apartments / Mobiles and More!
What an underrated comment, but you're exactly right. We just finished building our home in December. Used a local builder who has been in business for 40 years. Local companies, especially those who have been in business for a long period, will always be superior to large conglomerates. Home prices, in my area, have doubled over the past 3 years and have quadrupled since 2008. This is due to the fact that companies like Blackrock and Vanguard have been purchasing single-family homes in order to force people into rental/leasing spaces. If you can keep people from buying, you have a perpetual rental customer. Also, you never lose any property because you retain ownership. I feel sorry for anyone trying to purchase any home now. Speculation and forced scarcity have caused prices to explode. They will not go down either. These bottom-feeders learned from the 2008 sub-prime mortgage crisis. They learned that renters are easier to control and remove from properties. Also, if you never sell an asset, you perpetually increase your own value as you force prices higher.
he preys upon the foundation of America, the workers that hold up the society he enjoys. They grow his food, make his cars, shoes, suits. Provide his comfortable temperature. So interesting how these elites push their thumb down hard
Because they only care about the bottom line for their investors. How much money they get is what’s important, so they don’t care about quality, or employees, or customers. Wherever they can save a few pennies they do.
I knew a family that lived in a RV on their property, until they built there own house, people may consider being their own contractor and build their own house, Thank You Kristina and Thank You David
@@AnnC.... living in a RV on your land could potentially be illegal depending on where you’re located and how long you’re planning to do it. Be sure to check with the county beforehand.
Best way for a novice to build their own, get it dried in by subcontractors. Dried in is the exterior finished. Roof siding windows and doors. It's way faster, and the rest can be learned as you go, but make sure contractors have insurance and don't pay in full up front! You'll need inspections and pull permits, your county has an office that can help.
@@427skies He explained what dried in is in his second sentence and I quote, "Dried in is the exterior finished. Roof siding windows and doors." You need to read more slowly instead of fast skimming.
If those water leaks hit your floor, your floors will likely start disintegrating. That's what happened to my manufactured home. Water leaks in these homes cause lots of other issues down the line.
And since most of them use MDF on the floors which just dissolves in water, it doesn't take as long as it would in a traditional home with OSB or plywood
Warren Buffet has so many houses and all of them are very big and nice. Yet here he goes selling substandard homes to other people and not honoring the warranty once there are problems like water damage or leaky roofs. A man who is one of the wealthiest men on the planet treating others in this regard. Let that sink in.
Show me a billionaire who cares about the working class. Billionaire or trillionaires own this global economy. They can shut it down by their own whims and not care who suffers. People get the government they deserve.
@jackstiles458 There are no trillionaires and people who buy manufactured homes normally do not have the cash flow for upkeep. Some would be on them and some on the homeowner. If he just built mansions for the rich would that be more desirable for you?
Not to be a Buffet apologist, but he's known to primarily reside in a pretty modest house. He does have others, but this isn't the strongest critique. I don't like him, I just wanted to mention.
@@GayDadPhD In terms of what he could live in, very modest indeed. The wealthiest people you will ever meet in life are the same people who won't leave a single penny on the street.
I was considering Clayton Homes and went to their lot in Abilene to look at a few models. I won't even consider them now. There is nothing worse than a company going back on their promises and failing to take care of warranty issues. One major red flag for me was the transport of the house to the construction site. They told me they had to bring it to their yard in Abilene from their plant in Waco. My building site is roughly in between those two points. When I said we could save about 50% of the transportation costs by taking it directly to the building site, they refused. Why wouldn't they want to save on transportation? Sensing a major problem, I walked out of there never to return. They need to learn that the customer is the boss.
After a storm caused a huge oak tree to fall on my home and truck, I was traumatized (the tree crushed through my bedroom ceiling) and needed a replacement. I went to Clayton homes and while they helped me, I also had quite a bit of problems with them. One of the worst, was an incredible overcharge in the price they asked for demolishing the old trailer and preparing the existing site for the new trailer. They wanted 10K for that job and I found a local contractor who bid it at $1000. That seemed crooked to me. 3 years later, issues are still arising. Given the chance to go back, I wish I had shopped around more. I went from owning my place free and clear to being over 100k in debt. At 63, that ruined my plans for retirement.
My husband insisted on looking at Clayton homes one day. He got very frustrated when I told him they are substandard HUD houses. He said, “They are really nice now.” So even though I was tired and not in the mood to let him prove me right, we went to look. 😂😂😂😂 He hated them! “These are terrible!” To my credit, I didn’t say, “I told you.” 😊 For the same money, we will build a steel frame house that will last decades longer than a Clayton Home.
Thank you so much for this video. I live in Baton Rouge and was on the Clayton website today looking at modular homes. Please do a follow up video on the reputable sellers and how to purchase a modular home.
Do not BUY one. HOLD OUT for that normal place built on-site. Definitely do NOT get anything new. I bought a '48. Do yourself a favor and do not touch any home built after the 60's-ish.
@@AshleySpeaks4U my home was built in '46. Strong little house. Live in Fl. Hurricanes! It's built on piers so it must be safe and not coming out of the ground.
I live in a stick-built home which we built, so haven't had issues like this with our home. However, in 2018 we bought a Class C motorhome (Forester River) which we did have many issues with - gas lines not attached to the kitchen stove; rip in the vinyl flooring; ice maker leaking; damage from the ice maker leak; issues with the TV and surround sound, just to name a few. The dealer was reluctant to fix any of the issues. In order to get repairs done, we ended up contacting the manufacturer directly and threatening to go to the state attorney general. The dealer finally did take the unit in for repairs - they had it for 6 months. We received a phone call from the dealer stating that they could not fix the issue with the TV and surround sound but could modify it not to include the surround sound. This, of course, was NOT acceptable to us and after more calls to the manufacturer the TV and surround sound were ultimately fixed. We did continue to have a problem with the ice maker, however, and eventually just had it disconnected.
Reminds me of the time I almost went into the Navy. I was right there about to sing and the man said 75% sea time. There brochures really sold me. I declined and went down the hall to the USAF. Proud Veteran🇺🇸
@@goforthegoldful that was so smart LOL Army recruiter scooped me up and I bought it all! Had signed up to get an education in microwave repair. Not the ovens LOL. After I got out of basic they informed me that I would be 64 charlie, a truck driver! And that I was for my 4 years! Thanks for your service United States Air Force positively rocks!!
I will never buy a new home, they use inferior building materials to make as much money as possible. I just purchased a 1920 build home. needs work but the quality of the materials in the house is excellent. they don't make them like they used to. Even a home build in the 60s 70s 80s is okay. but I just wanted an older one. thanks for your info. love this channel.
Yes. I found a well maintained 1958 house. The mason who built the brick house raised his family in the house. The home inspector came up the stairs from the basement and exclaimed “it’s all oak down there”. Still solid. And built when a 2” x 6” was actually 2” x 6”.
I've been in 1920's homes that were so leaky that you could feel the wind when it blew while sitting on your sofa. And I've been in newly built that were solid and very comfortable. Age has nothing to do with how the home is built.
I have a local clayton dealer. I was curious , i went and looked at there trailers. I was shocked at there extremly low quility. Plastic sinks, plastic light fixtures, uncovered osb for cabnet shelving and paneling strips used for trim. They wanted over 90000 k. I couldnt believe what i was seeing. They are truely a disgusting company.
You want slate sinks and high end fixtures? Why look at mobile then? You get what you pay for. Sinks can be upgraded after you move in and so can light fixtures. And at a fraction of the cost a builder would charge you on initial build.
Their low price where I live, in south Texas, is $99,000. That is the absolute worst investment of $99,000 ever, because it is disposable housing. If you hold on to it for 20 years, the odds are, you’ll be paying someone to haul it off. Purchase a $35,000 in a bad neighborhood, & you’ll likely be able to make a small profit when you decide to sell or at least break even.
@@norxgirl1 After 17 years of steady payments, Warren Buffett has to date given annual donations totaling $50.7 billion toward his historic multibillion-dollar pledges to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and to four foundations connected to his family, according to a Chronicle tally.
Unrelated to the housing industry, but I worked with a guy many years ago who had been a car salesman. He told some great stories of his successes maxing out dealer add-ons and financing terms. He told me once about hitting a "home run"; getting sticker price, undercoating, extended warranty, and dealer financing from a female customer. One of his proudest moments! Anyway, hearing all that made me untrusting of ANYONE pushing a sale on me, especially something on wheels.
Ehh yeah cry me a river. That industry isn’t REMOTELY as profitable nor as shady as home selling industry. It’s so highly regulated now and margins are dismal. As someone who’s been in sales for a decade it’s a tough industry. The deceitful don’t last long.
I live in tornado alley, my brick home was all but leveled a year and a half ago, but a home like this would become dust in the wind and it’s always blown my mind how many people in my state have these homes. Without a storm shelter, you may as well be in your car when a tornado hits
My in-laws lived in a singlewide from the 70s and they would drive to the hospital and hang out in the waiting room or cafeteria when there were tornado watches. Any time of the day or night, it didn’t matter.
I truly believe that who's ever inspecting these homes at the factory must be in their pocket somehow because they let a lot of defects slip through the cracks and sign off on the build of these homes
Manufactured homes are like the rv industry. Models are built and sent to the dealer. Once a person purchases them and they get delivered and installed. Thats when they and you find out what doesn't work.
@@revilsdrit's literally just QC. It's managerial bureaucratic BS. The person is going to rarely inspect them, maybe 1 out of 100, or 1 out of 500, and they will likely get fired if they overscrutinize quality, and if lawsuits come flying, the blame is on "the rouge QC who wasn't up to standards". They don't gaf, it's about making money and deferring blame
So glad i watched this vid. I purchased a used 30 year old mobile home. I paid $1000 for it. Of course i had to rehab it. But i still did not have the problems mentioned by this gentleman. The home i have sits on a half acres lot. The lot is included with the price. The home had been abandoned for several years and vandalized. I spent about $20,000 to get it move in ready. I have lived rent free for about five years now. I am ready to sell this house and move to West Virginia my home state. Buying or building a new home has never appealed to me. I am currently looking to find another dying structure and breathing new life into it. The experience I gained in the current home will hopefully help me with my next project. I have found that building contractor repair and maintenance workers are very lazy and greedy. You as an owner have to stay on top of them to get what you are paying for. In 5 years i dealt with over 20 workers only one was honest in his work but he price gouged. Thank you very much for sharing ❤
Save this guy at all cost! He was well spoken, organized and admitted he could have done more research and this wasn't a rant and rave. Follow-up in a year would be appreciated.
It should be on a t-shirt, a billboard, a public transportation bus and more! They are not the only company and product with such deceitful practices. It says a lot about Warren Buffet too.
he preys upon the foundation of America, the workers that hold up the society he enjoys. They grow his food, make his cars, shoes, suits. Provide his comfortable temperature. So interesting how these elites push their thumb down hard
Yes clayton amd champion are absolute trash and whats worse is that people pay double the already huge payment due to lot rent in whatever community you park it in. Nonody should be paying $2500 a month for a $60,000 pos home
Many years ago, while questioning a rental contract and requesting that a clause be added in writing, they said, "Oh, it's _understood!"_ and refused to write in the clause. Of course, _nothing_ was understood, and it cost me hundreds of dollars every month until the contract ended (which I did not renew for this very reason). Now nothing is signed until _everything_ is in writing.
I would record everything. Even beginning with the consultation. Put stipulations re: walk-thru, repairs with expected finish dates, etc. Nowadays, you have to protect yourself! If all else fails, TELL YOUR STORY!! Social Media, news stations, etc.
I am a retired Home Inspector that was also certified to inspect Manufactured Homes. As a general rule, the service life of a Manufactured Home is around 30 years, I have some videos on my channel "Southern Stories" about what to look out for with these.
My interest rate with Clayton's own lender is actually better than my parents actual stick built house.. And was within/less than a lot of big banks at the time anyway in 2021. Also did not have payments until a month after my move in date. But yeah even though everything was finished, while waiting on inspectors they didn't allow going in the home, BUT was able to anyway due to one of the inspectors leaving the door unlocked so we checked it out. I was disappointed how slow they where, and lazy with getting contractors out, I stayed on them if I didn't do that my move in date would've prob been 6 months longer. I was not happy with contractors they picked for the decking/skirting, but it was a decent price. Some other things I contracted out on my own which was more unrelated to the house as it was cheaper, like septic plumbing etc. For me warranty work was fast generally within a few days if not sooner. Water heater replaced (was before move in) Front screen door fixed, Back door completely replaced. Some wiring in a light switch fixed Even down to adding some missing light bulbs after move in which wasn't even a big deal. Removing the hot water limitation in the showers (simple job anyway) Right now one issue is the siding of the house is a bit warped already due to sun but from what I've learned thats more of the issue of the siding being baked by the sun with no shade due to no trees. My friends experience was a bit different, but also from a different clayton dealership. They started the house buying process 6 months before I did, and I moved in 6 months before she did. They had a ton of things that had to get fixed. In my area theres been a lot of new developments for housing, homes that cost 5x+ what I paid for mine but are stick built having foundation issues, cracks, poorly built etc. So its not just manufactured homes with those types of issues.
Soooo I always come to listen to your advice. We still haven’t purchased yet after the let down 1.5 years ago. I was trying to pay attention to what was being said but lady I’m a licensed Esthetician and was stuck on how beautiful your skin is looking in this video. you’re just-a-glowin Sis❤😂 However I did get the main points of this video; hubby and I were considering modular and Clayton Homes.😮 Glad that you shared this experience. Thank you 🌺🌸
A correction here is needed. A modular home is built to the more strict state building code and will have a sticker usually in the electrical panel box that certifies it as modular. It may still have a chassis underneath it! They are called on frame modulars- but are still built to the more rigorous building code and this matters a lot for more preferred lending products. A manufactured home will have a HUD sticker and will be built to the less strict HUD building codes. (I am a real estate agent (15 years) and investor who has bought numerous manufactured and modular homes as investment properties.
@theresahutchins2463 A builder can decide to build to a higher standard which is nice, but I think that legally if its built on a trailer frame its considered a manufactured home.
I have the one you showed in the factory called the Patriot. It is pure junk the floors are made of OSB and are squishy. There is no sub floor only the thin OSB. The large tub in the master bathroom was paper thin and cracked upon arrival they patched it and it cracked again so I replaced it with a Jacuzzi bathtub. The house they showed us had architectural shingles on the roof. They said that was standard. Mine was delivered with the cheapest composition shingles you could buy so that was a lie. I was also told that the exterior walls were made with 2x6s and interiors were all 2x4s that was also a lie. I wish I would have listened to people when they told me to stay clear of Clayton homes.
I've debated creating a video about my experience. Clayton's homes should be investigated. My home was placed right up against the edge of a huge hill. We asked for the home not to be placed there, but they did anyway. Dirt built up behind the home and caused water to run under the home. The roof leaked right from the beginning. Had an inspector check it out, and he said it was a faulty roof from the manufacturer. Clayton's said too bad and refused to fix it. The back door leaked water into the home. The water heater was leaking. Found out later, the wiring to the hot water heater and the ac unit was to small. The ceilings are uneven. The ac unit was to small for the square footage of the home. They said they would include a porch and then after closing, they claimed they never agreed to that. I could go on and on. It's a scam, and they force you into arbitration, which is another scam. You can't legally do anything because of the arbitration agreement.
I worked in Clayton manufacturing plant. I lasted one month and then NOPED out of there. The workmanship was bad. They prioritized production over everything, including quality and safety. It was really bad. I did not feel comfortable working there. The employee turnover was so bad. They don't just prey on the poor when selling but also with their workers. I saw multiple serious injuries on the job. None of them were covered by Clayton because the first thing they do is drug test. There was a well-known drug culture there that even the management was aware of, and they wanted it that way.
After about 15-20 years these (formerly known as trailers) the roof and the floors sag and start leaking like a sieve. Often the roof leaks run inside the walls also and since they aren't really house quality walls they swell and fall apart as well. They rebranded them towards the end of the 1990's because before then these things depreciated over time because they are put together with spit and popsicle sticks. I remember renting a place in North Carolina and the walls swelled from leaks and when I pushed on the door a little the entire door frame fell out into the front lawn.
FYI, if you don’t build a proper foundation, the “pillars” are not filled with concrete to stabilize them. The home will break down quicker and your homeowners insurance will not cover any repairs caused by storms.
I am currently going through the same issue. My home is a 2022 model. Not only will Clayton not communicate with me but the Homeowners Insurance Assurant will not communicate either. My home was not set right. They supported the other half of my home with cinder blocks and 2x4's. This has resulted in the home not being level which has affected my roof, windows and doors. Which were cut in crooked due to home being set incorrectly. The gutters installed without a dripedge. I have microbial growth all over my windows and doors allow water to flood in during storms. They didn't even tack down any of my siding. Everything this man is saying is true! I have reported to BBB on Clayton and Homeowners Insurance as well. Next step is Attorney General and Hud. Report report report. Because they are scamming people!!!!! This should not be allowed. I literally in a home falling apart and nobody will help me.
We bought the “rio” two and a half years ago and cabinets are falling off hinges, base board and stuff is popping off walls, the skirting won’t stay down, the bathtub hardware is moving and leaking behind the tub. I don’t know what to do at this point and It makes me hurt on the inside. This is just the things I remember off the top of my head
I work as a post setup "fix it" sub contractor for clayton homes in tucson. The homes were in such bad shape upon delivery that we had to deny homeowners entry. Only did a few jobs for them before I dropped them as a client.
The run around is the same thing they did with me on a Fridigaire fridge. Warranty is out, fridge worked for 2 month and i don't have a fridge. These owners of these businesses are cruel, evil and greedy!
I bought a Clayton home directly from the dealer in the town I live by It was already set up on an acre of land. Now I'll never say that the quality is the same as a site built home, but considering that it's a manufactured home it's not horrible. Sure the trim could be a little better quality and the appliances although new aren't top of the line, but we are coming up on two years and no major problems. Also during the first year anytime i called the manager at the lot he had somebody out here within a few days. Not saying they were the "best" contractors in the business, but they took care of the issue even if they had to come back. I guess I say all that not because I'm a diehard Clayton fan, but to say that first and foremost you get what you pay for and secondly the service you get at least during that first year may depend a great deal on the lot you bought the house from.
My experience was a little different. Our delivery timeline was 3 months. They finished a month earlier. Our manufactured builder (Champion Skyline) don't offer setup. So we had to find our own crew. And that took longer than it took them to build the house. So we had to pay a storage fee for the company to keep our home until our land was ready. Fortunate we didn't need lending. We had sold our stick built home and used that money to purchase our manufactured home
We once actually found a Clayton Home that had a layout we loved. Oddly enough, the yard was open, and my husband and I went in, and started looking at homes that were unlocked and open to view. We looked at several. Then we went to the office to talk to them about the home we liked. The office was locked, although there was a vehicle outside. So we called the number out front and left a message. Never got a call back. Thankfully! I started looking up the model we liked online, and soon found many complaints about them. That's been a couple years ago. I don't know what the deal was with this Clayton yard. But I am glad they apparently weren't there. And I am glad they didn't give me a call back. We are about to build a home, rather than buy a mobile home. We already have a place to live, but it's a tiny house. It's manageable to live in, but we still want a larger home, because having out of town guests here is impossible, unless they're willing to sleep in a tent or our shop, or rent a mountain cabin ten or so miles down the road.
I don’t know about your guests, but sleeping in a tent or shop sounds fun. Of course, I have a shed I use as an office and I’ve slept in it a few times. 😊
I owned a Palm Harbor 18x80 and it was a great little home we actually miss it and we now own a regular home. We already decided if anything ever happens to this home Tornado or Fire instead of rebuilding ground up we will buy another Palm Harbor. Now that was over 20 years ago they may be different now, but back then they built them pretty well for the money.
I just built a house in another state (for retirement) and I hired a local house inspector to do phase inspections; it cost very little and provided so much peace of mind! Plus if there was a problem it wouldn't be me (a layperson with no building experience) telling the builder how to do his job; it would be on the advice of a seasoned industry professional.
I got a brand new home, with warped front and back door, so water was getting in and caused mold in the walls all over. They told me it wasn't mold, and then it wasn't black mold, and then black mold isn't toxic. Then then chopped out some parts of the wall and sprayed it with some stuff and painted back over it. Meanwhile, there is black mold in the walls of a BRAND NEW HOUSE.
@@dc-wp8oc It mandatory to inform the purchaser of any defects or damage prior to the sell 42 U.S.Code 5414. Also before a contract is binding the retailer shall give the purchaser a copy of the MHD 1124 Form (MANUFACTURED HOUSING INSTALLATION WARRANTY and DISCLOSURE document The manufacturer shall give the HUD 55014 Form. (WARRANTY FOR NEW MANUFACTURED HOME. When the purchaser receives these forms as required by state and federal law. Then it is a binding contract. Than you can have arbitration
@@dc-wp8oc If the manufacturer doesn’t tell you of damage and if you don’t have the MHD 1124 , and the HUD 55014 Form it is not a binding contract. You can sue
All excellent counsel for someone like myself who is looking into modular homes for my next purchase. You’re a saint and I appreciate you. Thank you so much!!
Glad I found this video honestly. We have a bunch of Clayton dealers here in MO. I was looking to sell the manufactured home I live in now to get a Clayton. Thanks for the video!
We got one in 2019. First off was problems with heat pump. It had to be charged every year because of a leak and thier hvac person wouldn't fix. Finally I hired my own hvac and they fixed it. I had to push the Clayton to get reimbursed. Also have had shingles blow off every year and they said it wasn't under my warranty. Also siding was installed incorrectly and began to get rimples in some pieces and one was replaced but other not. Had to have front and back doors changed because of ripples in doors also and they did replace. They are overpriced for the quality given. Wished I had known more before buying so anyone interested in one make sure you inspect it or hire one to inspect. They could be decent homes but because of speedy building they sacrifice quality homes and I did tell the manager this but it fell on deaf ears. They tried to pour thin footers but I was there and made them pour to specs and also had a county inspector to check them. I am redoing it one project at a time and soon I will improve what they cobbled up.
FYI, modular homes can be brought in on "a chassis" like manufactured homes. There was a lawsuit brought in North Carolina that confirmed this over 20 years ago. The difference in modular and manufactured is the code they follow when built. Modular homes follow the International Residential Code (ask IRC) which is the same code stick built homes are built to. Manufactured homes follow the HUD code. HUD code homes are minimal construction but are designed to address affordability.
But I think the discrepancy is a 100% Modular is not left on a chassis, that is considered a manufactured home even though it may look similar. They might be transported to your land site similarly to a manufactured, but a true modular is attached to a permanent foundation like a traditional home. This is very important when it comes to financing,resale,insurance and zoning. So the whole promotion of "cross modern" manufactured housing might be confusing to someone who thinks they're getting a certified modular home. A manufactured home can be turned into real property with land for deed purposes, but it can never be turned into a modular home after the fact simply because of the way it's originally constructed(titled). They need to be very clear when you're buying these homes what they actually are because it could end up being a costly mistake for buyers by attempting to blur the line between the two.
I'm a painter and I warn customers about the beautiful web sites and slick 'estimators' they send over. A majority have a very poor quality of labor, let alone their painters. Their prices are more than a painter but the profit goes to 'the suits' or the franchise.
I have worked in new home construction as a project manager and customer service service manager for 30. I have worked for 3 of the nations largest builders. What I have witnessed over the years is shocking. With a few the P M bonus is tied to the amount of items or damage items . They will often lie to the customer at settlement walkthroughs about when to list those items. The fewer items can mean a bigger bonus. I know we can get excited and overwhelmed at settlement but no matter what make sure every single item you are concerned about is in writing before or at settlement. If not often the excuse will be, how do we know that that item was not caused by you. Please always get everything in writing tied to a period of time it will be completed. I cant number the times I have seen a betrayed customer by other employees.
THANK YOU! Watching your video helped me decide weather to purchase a manufactured house, I am definitely not going to go down that road…at my age I could not handle the stress.
Even though I worked in the industry for 12 years, there was something that came to my attention a few years ago… since unrestricted land is so hard to find in my area, they started offering ‘land packages’ with the purchase of a mobile home. They sold this young couple a home & 3 acres, but there had been no land earmarked for this purpose. It had been 3.5 years that this couple had been making payments, & they still hadn’t come up with the land.
My wife’s great aunt Ruth Clayton helped her son build the first homes they made in Halls Tennessee. I don’t know about the quality but I used to deliver parts to the manufacturing plants. Lots of cheap stuff goes into those homes. My first manufactured house had a leak and sag the insulation on the bottom had a cut a hole in it to let the water out, don’t think I would buy another one.
My Clayton is a 1999 model. I have been to them for parts. They tell me they never built a model of the size and type as mine. It's a double that is only 20 ft by 40 ft. There are Clayton tags throughout. It is thin built but is holding together fairly well for the type of materials used. I would not replace it with another Clayton, based the communications with Clayton people.
I’m a contractor, I used to work for Clayton doing warranty work. I remember having sympathy for the young families that I didn’t feel got treated fairly by Clayton.
my daughter purchased one and it was a nightmare to say the least.
She'll never ever go back to them.
@@Poppi-G do you have an manufacture home builders you recommend? We’re in the northeast so we only have Clayton, Titan and a few other to choice from 😳
@@DL-xo7fn does she still own the home
@@caseyd3963
Solitaire
Very Well Built
Anything that looks modern or trendy is usually a red flag , i avoid them at all cost.
Those salesmen are slick. I stopped by a dealer just to get prices and walked off the lot with a doublewide on order. When I had changed my mind, I saw in the contract that until I had delivery of the home I was able to get all my down payment back. They would only give me half back, so then I filed in small claims for the rest at which point they finally paid the remainder.
All successful salesmen are slick, which is why we have a Trump led cult
oh my gosh the SOB's! That's theivery!
@@qwaurk985 holy that's greasy.
Unfortunately, the same thing happened to me. They promised that all of the issues would be resolved before the home was delivered. Problems were immediate- zero caulking, faulty hardware, shoddy flooring, defective everything. My home is shifting and cracking; siding wasn't installed correctly. One contractor came out twice over the course of nearly a year until they ran the warranty out. This guy isn't lying. Buyer's Remorse is REAL!
This practice also includes the rv industry! They’re all crooks! 28:04
Have you seen any alternatives?
We purchased a clayton home in 2020. It took over a year and was a massive pain. I was on site everyday and I just walked into the house without asking. Id randomly show up and pull my self right on in. I’d point out every single thing. Then I’d text it to have it in writing. I got an inspector and really made them mad. Honestly, I might be the reason they don’t let people in the houses anymore. Wouldn’t suggest Clayton to my worst enemy.
Thank you
brilliant
Great advice 🇺🇸👊
That is crazy why would anybody buy a house they can't inspect or look into
Thank you for the info; I got a Clayton home in 2021 today in 2024; cabinets slip out of the socket as well as the kitchen cabinets! The siding is bucking as well however 90 o/o is comfortable and affordable. Clayton is willing to work with us on these issues in Bossier La.; suggest u do a 2 yr. plan before moving in.
When i saw the 20% interest rate on my quote, I said no. It was $900 a month for 30 years. I would have paid over $300k for a $59k loan. That was Vanderbilt Mort.
@nickjaxon1311 what exactly is a lie?
@@veryradfarout incorrect. I worked for Clayton for 7 years. Pushing out 11 mobile homes a day, they will not be made correctly.
@@MsPbass20% interest rates haven't been a thing for decades. Maybe 20% down.
Wow!
@nickjaxon1311 30 seconds on Google shows that manufactured home loans can have an interest rate, in 2024, from "4% to 24%"...
So will that be a wire or cash?
The State Attorney General needs to weigh in.
He is. He's got several issues regarding housing being investigated . He just filed a lawsuit against a software company that price-fixed the rental sector across this whole country. One effort in the suit includes seeking all records of every client subscribed, past and present. Landlords on every level are in trouble, if they participated. There's another digging into everything pertaining to permits, purchase of land and all records for purchased materials as part of investigating real estate prices. He's able to do all this under the radar during all this election campaigning. The media's too busy chewing up candidates.
@@MoonOverHomelessness Sadly, AG take FOREVER to investigate your TRUTH!!
look up: YOU ARE LAW
know your true rights
Or you have none.
@@MoonOverHomelessnessI watched that when the DOJ came out after they finished a 2-year investigation... It was not only just the housing market but it was also all of these big corporations. ( That's why our food cost is so high) they were using an algorithm
I called them and got them involved here in Ohio!
SO GLAD I found this video! I was wanting to sell my home, buy some land and buy a Clayton to put on it! ARGH! No way now! Thank you!
Do not buy from Clayton!!! We did and regret it…..
We did too!!!!
"Claymore"... every time I hear Clayton... I just convert it to the accurate clemature...
We almost bought a Clayton mistake when we moved to Alabama.. Someone told us to investigate first, glad we did. Wound up with a quality home built in 1988, solid, well built. Couldnt be happier.
What builder?
@@stevenkaskus6173 I dont know, was told he was a small local builder. Everything is plumb, square, no sags, doors open and close like new. 36 years old and solidly built.
@@jamesgullo8240 mine was built in 1937. 2x10 floor joists. you can do jumping jacks and it feels like concrete. but it's over a basement. the foundation and basement aren't the best, and neither is the attic, but everything was re-modeled before i bought. even has new water heater, new hvac, new roof, new plumbing, new electrical, new floors, paints, doors, door handles, light fixtures, etc.. even new windows!. the kitchen looks new but it's very basic. basic counter tops, basic dishwasher, basic flattop stove, small white fridge, that's probably the biggest downfall besides the small yard. But, for my price range, it was either go mobile home, or deal with a bunch of repair work myself.. until, i found this house and it was move-in ready. i got lucky with my 3% interest rate. a few months later people began throwing $25k-50k CASH over asking price in my area, even for sub-200k homes. About a month after that, interest rates began skyrocketing. I have a really small yard which is kind of annoying, but i love the house. been here 3 years. if i sold right now i'd pocket about $30-40k after paying taxes/fees/realtor.
@@jamesgullo8240 Smart move. In most circumstances I think it is much better to be able to inspect the house before you pay for it. And the notion of paying for it and THEN having to wait months on end to get something that could end up being poor quality just seems nuts to me.
My husband and I purchased the Clayton home in 2019 and it has been nothing but a headache. The quality is subpar and they never came back to repair things after we noticed and contacted them. And the time that they did send workers out to do "repairs", they were done so poorly that they just ended up messing up within a week or two of them fixing it. However now we are stuck and there's really nothing we can do except make the best out of it and learn from it. But, thank you for trying to warn others so that they don't get swindled by the manufacturer of these homes.
I had to quit working for Champion home builders because of the lack of quality that they were pushing on customers. It is disgusting what they are doing to people.
Were you in Hemet, CA?
We bought a Champion in 1976. We still have it. It’s been redone twice! I swear the closets were built better than anything else in the house! Lol
I hear that but I got a 2019 double wide that I bought brand new haven’t had any issues with it at all 2000 square foot full tape and texture in all the rooms like when you walk into can’t tell your in a mobile home
Thank you
You are providing a much needed service.
Years ago Clayton was sued by a few owners . And had to pay them quite a bit of money
Interesting. Could you share that link?
@@SimpliMee92search
clayton homes sued by owners
Bought by Buffet
Maybe it's time for a bunch of us to do another class action lawsuit. They have clearly taken advantage of all of us that just wanted a nice home reasonable payments.
We plan on suing this has been the absolute worst experience of our lives the clayton homes of williamsburg kentucky did the same exact stuff this guy is saying except it was our front door and side door that leaked water for months before they fixed the doors didn't check for mold just painted over it. Trim hanging off walls to the point you could put your hand between the trim and drywall and touch neither they said that was a manufacturing issue. The gm dodged our calls for 3 weeks when we finally got ahold of corporate they told us they told them they couldn't call us back because they were in training. They told us we wouldn't make a payment until we moved in then they let the payment go 4 days late before they paid it dropped credit score 120 points. I would tell anyone stay away from this company I had enough issues I could write a book and it's still going on I sent over a hundred photos of issues to 4 or 5 different people because no one records or writes anything down so just continously have to keep sending the issues to a new person horrible company.
This is UNBELIEVABLE that there isn't an attorney to place a massive class action lawsuit against CLAYTON HOMES!!
Not yet at least.
Class action lawsuits onky help the lawyers..the homeowners get a small percentage.
@@MosheMasha yes they’ve got it fixed
You'd might be surprised. DSLD and other major builders have class actions lawsuits. Clayton, may as well.
Just know that all homes are heading in this direction, not just manufactured homes.
@@chrism8180 yep! Builders are replacing plywood and OSB sheathing with literal cardboard.
Yep I’ve seeing some traditional built homes and I feel sorry for the buyers because they are not build right cheap materials cheap wood ect
Makes me want to buy a condo instead
Well there is a red flag right there, Warren Buffet, billionaire/philanthropist. Hah!! I've been learning about a lot of philanthropists!
@@astrahcat1212there are better options.😉
A manufactured home sounds like it comes with the same headaches as buying an RV.
It’s much, much more costly. At least you can be rid of an RV in one day.
@@sunshine3914 I am about to buy a medium sized airstream to be my place of living
These day they are the same.
I have a manufactured home from 1998, no issues if you take care of it.
I think it would make sense if you already have purchased land and want to start living without too much investment upfront.
I worked at Clayton for 6 months. My coworkers definitely deceived people. I was told to have more con in me. I refused. I still was leading in sales, but I quit because I was getting people who had longer cases and my manager was mad that I wasn't getting faster cases. I sold to people who knew what they were getting. I wasn't going to push people to get it. They want us to rush people into the fastest possible solution, regardless of how they'll feel afterwards.
@@TimeMachine7773 you have integrity
@@TimeMachine7773
So happy I found this before I went into contract with them even though I would be buying cash...Warren Buffet!!!! I never knew, thanks!
You told customers that they're getting ripped off and they still bought it? 😂
@@HorsesArePeople2 I told them the truth. I told them the pros and cons. A lot of my customers had situations like, having land with an old mobile home and they wanted to upgrade, which is the most cost efficient way of getting a new home for them.
The main Maryville location? Both of my aunts work there and hate it.
I almost bought a Clayton, glad I didn't.
The complaints are not universal, see my post. We are very very happy with our home.
@@LynnaeaEmberUntil you go to sell.
@@sunshine3914 It is your job to do market research on the products you consider purchasing, where you spend your money matters, resell value is a contributing factor to financial choices. That's called being an adult and handling your life in this capitalist world, however, that does not inherently constitute a complaint or issue. Most people who purchase manufactured homes do not consider resale value because they do not intend to sell, they intend to have a long term home.
Thanks for exposing these crooks.
My home is solid brick built in 1936, with original hardwood floors, laundry shoot, working fireplace and all of the bells and whistles from that time period. We love this house.
We bought a brick house from 1952 and way better than today's built houses
Cool story
Can't build that now. $$$
@@emileewooten3874 right, they talking about million dollar houses 😂
Umm that was random af…
Equivalent to bringing up what you had for lunch in front of a man who hasn’t eaten in a week. *cough*
🤨
Me and my boyfriend bought a house 4 or 5 years ago. We didn't even look at any houses built after 1940. Ended up with a house with the oldest part built in 1810 (we think). And the newest part built in 1931. It's solid as a rock and cost much less than any of the new houses that were for sale at the time. We love the steam heat, so comfortable in the winter and absolutely silent. And it has style, not a plastic box like the new houses.
We have a 1910 house. Electrical, plumbing, etc already updated. Very solid house. Wife visited a place we had looked into before this, was built in 2017. It was a hard no because it was $100k more, smaller, and had visible (from the outside) serious structural issues. Not impressed with new build quality.
Someone considering mobile homes doesn’t have the time and/or resources to rake on a 100 year old house. Apples and oranges.
@@snowcrash4286 mobile home and manufactured homes are also apples to oranges.
I don't mean to sound facetious, but I've been a builder for 47 years. When they say "they don't build them like they used to", to me it holds a different meaning. In these late and early century homes, fire is a serious issue to consider. You can update electric and heating all you want, but the houses are basically just large chimneys placed on foundations. Also, the lumber spans and headers were never calculated or regulated in most cases. Lots of these houses are so far out of square that doors and windows will never close, and the weight of the plaster never gives up. Yes, there are appealing things about them, but I'd never bite for one. I've simply made too much money fixing them to take the bait. Your best bet for a quality home is something built in the late 1950's when modern dimensional lumber was really becoming a thing, and drywall was first showing up as well. Challenges with these houses normally include small doorways, cramped bathrooms, and small bedrooms but a buyer should know this going into it. As for today, you can get a very very high quality home built for you, but you'll have to have deep pockets and know what to ask for. I wouldn't want to be a home buyer not knowing what I know...
@@smartysmarty1714 to be fair on this, the house next to mine is 110 years old and a giant money pit for all that money in your bank account. Some should just be taken down so you can start from scratch and save a lot of time and money (Until you find all of that lovely asbestos). Renovations are like a box of chocolates.....
Older buildings are a challenge, more so if you expect something as unreasonable as dimensional lumbar. From the engineering side of things, the old ones that are still in great shape are seriously overbuilt. A 1950's era house you run into some serious potential health hazards built into the home in addition to room size issues.
Modern construction you can get your money's worth, but it's not going to be cheap for the level of quality you expect or want.
As a regulator the contractors I deal with are a mixed bag. Some get pretty unhappy that I actually hold them up to that minimum standard prescribed for in the law. Others are glad for it as it makes them better and helps show the customer that they are better.
Consult an attorney about filing a lawsuit and call your Attorney General’s Office to get them involved and call your local TV station and give them some free TV interviews.
Trust no one . Google and read these Code
1. 42 U.S. Code Chapter 70
2. 24 CFR Part 3280
3. 24 CFR PART 3282
4. 24 CFR PART 3285
5. 24 CFR PART 3286
6. Administration duties and responsibilities.
Rule 603
WATCH OUT FOR THE VICIOUS 🐍 AROUND AND INSIDE THE RETAILERS LOT.
indeed MAKE a big stink about it ( call local news or newspaper), and sue them for an enormous amount , to get attention !
@@andreavandekleut6379 They made sure you signed a Binding Dispute Resolution Agreement. We still don't know how we "signed" that contract, it says you can't sue them but they can sue you, that is why you don't see much lawsuits vs Clayton Homes.
I would reach out to others in your area and see if they are interested in going into a class action law suit.
@@stevenkaskus6173 We cant because of the Binding Dispute Resolution Agreement, but Clayton Homes can sue us in court though, we just can't sue them in any way.
I joined a group on Facebook for ppl who have bought or are thinking of buying a Clayton home. The stories that get posted in that group with pictures are absolutely appalling. There’s ppl literally letting the banks repossess their home and ruining their credit score, because it’s the better option than continuing to pay off the product Clayton sold them. So glad I joined that group and did my research on them or else I could have very easily been in the same position as them.
We bought a Clayton home not knowing about their business practices. We had some major issues that still r not taken care of. Lied to and deceived from the start. Wish I would have seen this video before we ever decided on getting our Clayton home. Bought our land and thought Clayton homes were the way to go. Boy were we wrong!!!
Share your story. This is the only way people will be held accountable.
@theresahorswill709 We went to Morgan & Morgan they sued in our behalf and we won. They needed to have tried to fix things at least three times. Maybe you've talked to a lawyer.
When I was in the industry 20 years ago, Clayton was known as the Worst. Sorry, that happen to you. I find you have to do a lot of research. On the internet and reading comments.
Why would you make such a large purchase without doing any research...its mind boggling. This company would be out of business by now if people would wise up a drop.
@@Jdalio5 Same with this guy in the video. Who makes a purchase like this solely on advertising and a well made website? I don’t feel sorry for people can’t research their purchases especially a home!!??!
I just wanted to say that I had 2 home inspectors that missed some very important and expensive repairs that had to be done several years ago. Also I had real estate attorney that missed the fine print on a contract!! That's why it's extremely important to do research and get recommendations from reviews that look authentic as well as people you know!!!
did they provide you the attorney? lol
If you hired a conventional home inspector, they do know what they are doing. These homes are not built to the IRC. HUD has its own standards and the homes are engineered.
@@littleelvis4809 They were conventional home inspectors unfortunately.
They were pd off by the builder thts common thing
Clayton Homes Was Located in Alcoa, Tennessee - Just a Few Miles From Knoxville .. Alcoa Aluminum / Huge Amazon Distribution Warehouse .. From the 1990’s til Around 2010 .. Clayton Homes Was a Respectable Brand .. BUT, Just a Few Years Ago, Warren Buffet and His Band of Wall Street Marauders Bought Out Clayton Homes .. and IMMEDIATELY, The QUALITY SANK - While the PRICES DOUBLED and in Some Cases, TRIPLED .. Wall Street Hedge Fund Speculators Have KILLED THE UNITED STATES in Housing / Apartments / Mobiles and More!
What an underrated comment, but you're exactly right. We just finished building our home in December. Used a local builder who has been in business for 40 years. Local companies, especially those who have been in business for a long period, will always be superior to large conglomerates. Home prices, in my area, have doubled over the past 3 years and have quadrupled since 2008. This is due to the fact that companies like Blackrock and Vanguard have been purchasing single-family homes in order to force people into rental/leasing spaces. If you can keep people from buying, you have a perpetual rental customer. Also, you never lose any property because you retain ownership. I feel sorry for anyone trying to purchase any home now. Speculation and forced scarcity have caused prices to explode. They will not go down either. These bottom-feeders learned from the 2008 sub-prime mortgage crisis. They learned that renters are easier to control and remove from properties. Also, if you never sell an asset, you perpetually increase your own value as you force prices higher.
@@ApostateApostrophe42276 A 1920's style depression could make hoes go extremely down.
he preys upon the foundation of America, the workers that hold up the society he enjoys. They grow his food, make his cars, shoes, suits. Provide his comfortable temperature. So interesting how these elites push their thumb down hard
They did the job too, America's finished, if you're not rich already, you lost.
Because they only care about the bottom line for their investors. How much money they get is what’s important, so they don’t care about quality, or employees, or customers. Wherever they can save a few pennies they do.
Thank you so much for this Interview!!
He should file a complaint with the state licensed board in his state.
I knew a family that lived in a RV on their property, until they built there own house, people may consider being their own contractor and build their own house, Thank You Kristina and Thank You David
That is what I did. Took 1.5 yrs, but it was great.
@@AnnC.... living in a RV on your land could potentially be illegal depending on where you’re located and how long you’re planning to do it. Be sure to check with the county beforehand.
Best way for a novice to build their own, get it dried in by subcontractors. Dried in is the exterior finished. Roof siding windows and doors. It's way faster, and the rest can be learned as you go, but make sure contractors have insurance and don't pay in full up front! You'll need inspections and pull permits, your county has an office that can help.
@@mikemill4519 What is dried in?
@@427skies He explained what dried in is in his second sentence and I quote, "Dried in is the exterior finished. Roof siding windows and doors."
You need to read more slowly instead of fast skimming.
If those water leaks hit your floor, your floors will likely start disintegrating. That's what happened to my manufactured home. Water leaks in these homes cause lots of other issues down the line.
And since most of them use MDF on the floors which just dissolves in water, it doesn't take as long as it would in a traditional home with OSB or plywood
Do the use particle board?
Mine did. Had to replace floors and flooring!
Warren Buffet has so many houses and all of them are very big and nice. Yet here he goes selling substandard homes to other people and not honoring the warranty once there are problems like water damage or leaky roofs. A man who is one of the wealthiest men on the planet treating others in this regard. Let that sink in.
Show me a billionaire who cares about the working class. Billionaire or trillionaires own this global economy. They can shut it down by their own whims and not care who suffers. People get the government they deserve.
@@jackstiles458 Meanwhile, the GOP votes to give them big tax cuts!!!
@jackstiles458 There are no trillionaires and people who buy manufactured homes normally do not have the cash flow for upkeep. Some would be on them and some on the homeowner. If he just built mansions for the rich would that be more desirable for you?
Not to be a Buffet apologist, but he's known to primarily reside in a pretty modest house. He does have others, but this isn't the strongest critique. I don't like him, I just wanted to mention.
@@GayDadPhD In terms of what he could live in, very modest indeed. The wealthiest people you will ever meet in life are the same people who won't leave a single penny on the street.
I was considering Clayton Homes and went to their lot in Abilene to look at a few models. I won't even consider them now. There is nothing worse than a company going back on their promises and failing to take care of warranty issues. One major red flag for me was the transport of the house to the construction site. They told me they had to bring it to their yard in Abilene from their plant in Waco. My building site is roughly in between those two points. When I said we could save about 50% of the transportation costs by taking it directly to the building site, they refused. Why wouldn't they want to save on transportation? Sensing a major problem, I walked out of there never to return. They need to learn that the customer is the boss.
They offer a direct to buyer (factory sales) division for situations like your's. Did you check the internet for the factory direct site?
100%!!!
After a storm caused a huge oak tree to fall on my home and truck, I was traumatized (the tree crushed through my bedroom ceiling) and needed a replacement. I went to Clayton homes and while they helped me, I also had quite a bit of problems with them. One of the worst, was an incredible overcharge in the price they asked for demolishing the old trailer and preparing the existing site for the new trailer. They wanted 10K for that job and I found a local contractor who bid it at $1000. That seemed crooked to me. 3 years later, issues are still arising. Given the chance to go back, I wish I had shopped around more. I went from owning my place free and clear to being over 100k in debt. At 63, that ruined my plans for retirement.
My husband insisted on looking at Clayton homes one day. He got very frustrated when I told him they are substandard HUD houses. He said, “They are really nice now.”
So even though I was tired and not in the mood to let him prove me right, we went to look.
😂😂😂😂
He hated them! “These are terrible!” To my credit, I didn’t say, “I told you.” 😊
For the same money, we will build a steel frame house that will last decades longer than a Clayton Home.
Unfortunately this is not the first story I've heard about this company.
@@lesliepalmer7407 Same. Unfortunately I've heard more bad things about Clayton.
I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANY HOME FOR ANY REASON FROM CLAYTON!!
I don’t recommend any mobile home, unless you’ve been given just a couple years to live.
@@sunshine3914 Or if you have club feet
Thank you so much for this video. I live in Baton Rouge and was on the Clayton website today looking at modular homes. Please do a follow up video on the reputable sellers and how to purchase a modular home.
I was in the business 12 years, there isn’t any. & very few contractors know how to work on them.
Do not BUY one. HOLD OUT for that normal place built on-site. Definitely do NOT get anything new. I bought a '48. Do yourself a favor and do not touch any home built after the 60's-ish.
@@AshleySpeaks4U my home was built in '46. Strong little house. Live in Fl. Hurricanes! It's built on piers so it must be safe and not coming out of the ground.
I live in a stick-built home which we built, so haven't had issues like this with our home. However, in 2018 we bought a Class C motorhome (Forester River) which we did have many issues with - gas lines not attached to the kitchen stove; rip in the vinyl flooring; ice maker leaking; damage from the ice maker leak; issues with the TV and surround sound, just to name a few. The dealer was reluctant to fix any of the issues. In order to get repairs done, we ended up contacting the manufacturer directly and threatening to go to the state attorney general. The dealer finally did take the unit in for repairs - they had it for 6 months. We received a phone call from the dealer stating that they could not fix the issue with the TV and surround sound but could modify it not to include the surround sound. This, of course, was NOT acceptable to us and after more calls to the manufacturer the TV and surround sound were ultimately fixed. We did continue to have a problem with the ice maker, however, and eventually just had it disconnected.
@@donnarandall3275 I believe Mr. Buffetts Berkshire Hathaway owns "Forest River" too.
Reminds me of the time I almost went into the Navy. I was right there about to sing and the man said 75% sea time. There brochures really sold me. I declined and went down the hall to the USAF. Proud Veteran🇺🇸
@@goforthegoldful that was so smart LOL Army recruiter scooped me up and I bought it all! Had signed up to get an education in microwave repair. Not the ovens LOL. After I got out of basic they informed me that I would be 64 charlie, a truck driver! And that I was for my 4 years! Thanks for your service United States Air Force positively rocks!!
What song were you going to sing?
Not sure how this video reminds you of that, but thank you for your service.
21 year USAF veteran here
I will never buy a new home, they use inferior building materials to make as much money as possible. I just purchased a 1920 build home. needs work but the quality of the materials in the house is excellent. they don't make them like they used to. Even a home build in the 60s 70s 80s is okay. but I just wanted an older one. thanks for your info. love this channel.
Yes. I found a well maintained 1958 house. The mason who built the brick house raised his family in the house. The home inspector came up the stairs from the basement and exclaimed “it’s all oak down there”. Still solid. And built when a 2” x 6” was actually 2” x 6”.
I've been in 1920's homes that were so leaky that you could feel the wind when it blew while sitting on your sofa. And I've been in newly built that were solid and very comfortable. Age has nothing to do with how the home is built.
@@aday1637Good luck finding & getting that exclusive contractor.
They can't build them like they used to all the old growth wood is gone now you go to home Depot for crooked pine wood
I have a local clayton dealer. I was curious , i went and looked at there trailers. I was shocked at there extremly low quility. Plastic sinks, plastic light fixtures, uncovered osb for cabnet shelving and paneling strips used for trim. They wanted over 90000 k. I couldnt believe what i was seeing. They are truely a disgusting company.
You want slate sinks and high end fixtures? Why look at mobile then? You get what you pay for. Sinks can be upgraded after you move in and so can light fixtures. And at a fraction of the cost a builder would charge you on initial build.
2 dollar sinks and 50 cent light fixtures. They can do better then that at 90,000k. Clayton is a greedy and corrupt company.
Their low price where I live, in south Texas, is $99,000. That is the absolute worst investment of $99,000 ever, because it is disposable housing. If you hold on to it for 20 years, the odds are, you’ll be paying someone to haul it off.
Purchase a $35,000 in a bad neighborhood, & you’ll likely be able to make a small profit when you decide to sell or at least break even.
Track homes are going to this level. Only they are not mobile. But really nothing is permanent.
Absolutely disgusted with Warren Buffet.
He should know better: Take the old Standard Oil: Rockefeller knew the importance of having a quality product.
That's the first thing....
This is why he’s a billionaire. He only cares about getting your money.
Who isn’t?
WB's riches were from sales of military weapons to gov't for Vietnam. Slimey
@@norxgirl1 After 17 years of steady payments, Warren Buffett has to date given annual donations totaling $50.7 billion toward his historic multibillion-dollar pledges to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and to four foundations connected to his family, according to a Chronicle tally.
I regret the day I bought from Clayton. Needed a whole new roof within 16 months of a new home. UNREAL
It’s like a BIG headache to purchase a manufactured home. Thanks for the EXCELLENT content
Bigger headache to get rid of one.
Unrelated to the housing industry, but I worked with a guy many years ago who had been a car salesman. He told some great stories of his successes maxing out dealer add-ons and financing terms. He told me once about hitting a "home run"; getting sticker price, undercoating, extended warranty, and dealer financing from a female customer. One of his proudest moments! Anyway, hearing all that made me untrusting of ANYONE pushing a sale on me, especially something on wheels.
I have a special hate for car salesman
Ehh yeah cry me a river. That industry isn’t REMOTELY as profitable nor as shady as home selling industry. It’s so highly regulated now and margins are dismal. As someone who’s been in sales for a decade it’s a tough industry. The deceitful don’t last long.
I live in tornado alley, my brick home was all but leveled a year and a half ago, but a home like this would become dust in the wind and it’s always blown my mind how many people in my state have these homes. Without a storm shelter, you may as well be in your car when a tornado hits
Car might even be better, at least it has belts & airbags.
@@ShakaCthulu With a car you could drive away.
My in-laws lived in a singlewide from the 70s and they would drive to the hospital and hang out in the waiting room or cafeteria when there were tornado watches. Any time of the day or night, it didn’t matter.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 i love that story. no fools there.
I am looking for a home- I heard about Clayton earlier this year- it was awful. I am still looking.
They kept telling me they were inspected at the factory. I told them they need to fire the inspectors. I also said my attorney is on speed dial.
I truly believe that who's ever inspecting these homes at the factory must be in their pocket somehow because they let a lot of defects slip through the cracks and sign off on the build of these homes
Manufactured homes are like the rv industry. Models are built and sent to the dealer. Once a person purchases them and they get delivered and installed. Thats when they and you find out what doesn't work.
@@revilsdr Self inspected.
@@revilsdr I agree with you!! That's why getting with a GREAT dealer/builder is extremely important.
@@revilsdrit's literally just QC. It's managerial bureaucratic BS. The person is going to rarely inspect them, maybe 1 out of 100, or 1 out of 500, and they will likely get fired if they overscrutinize quality, and if lawsuits come flying, the blame is on "the rouge QC who wasn't up to standards". They don't gaf, it's about making money and deferring blame
You’re getting ready to hit 300,000! Congratulations. I remember when you were about 50,000.
@@MySonsMother she's not that old
So glad i watched this vid. I purchased a used 30 year old mobile home. I paid $1000 for it. Of course i had to rehab it. But i still did not have the problems mentioned by this gentleman. The home i have sits on a half acres lot. The lot is included with the price. The home had been abandoned for several years and vandalized. I spent about $20,000 to get it move in ready. I have lived rent free for about five years now. I am ready to sell this house and move to West Virginia my home state. Buying or building a new home has never appealed to me. I am currently looking to find another dying structure and breathing new life into it. The experience I gained in the current home will hopefully help me with my next project. I have found that building contractor repair and maintenance workers are very lazy and greedy. You as an owner have to stay on top of them to get what you are paying for. In 5 years i dealt with over 20 workers only one was honest in his work but he price gouged. Thank you very much for sharing ❤
Save this guy at all cost!
He was well spoken, organized and admitted he could have done more research and this wasn't a rant and rave. Follow-up in a year would be appreciated.
It should be on a t-shirt, a billboard, a public transportation bus and more!
They are not the only company and product with such deceitful practices. It says a lot about Warren Buffet too.
he preys upon the foundation of America, the workers that hold up the society he enjoys. They grow his food, make his cars, shoes, suits. Provide his comfortable temperature. So interesting how these elites push their thumb down hard
Thank you for the cautionary tale. Sorry you had to go through so many challenges. Shame on Clayton!
I worked at a Clayton plant and can 1000% agree the homes are trash. DO NOT buy these. They are all junk.
@@KevinJames90
All homes are built like junk now.
Yes clayton amd champion are absolute trash and whats worse is that people pay double the already huge payment due to lot rent in whatever community you park it in. Nonody should be paying $2500 a month for a $60,000 pos home
All trailers are...
@@12yearssober yes !🙌🏽
What plant do you work at?
Many years ago, while questioning a rental contract and requesting that a clause be added in writing, they said, "Oh, it's _understood!"_ and refused to write in the clause.
Of course, _nothing_ was understood, and it cost me hundreds of dollars every month until the contract ended (which I did not renew for this very reason).
Now nothing is signed until _everything_ is in writing.
I would record everything. Even beginning with the consultation. Put stipulations re: walk-thru, repairs with expected finish dates, etc. Nowadays, you have to protect yourself! If all else fails, TELL YOUR STORY!! Social Media, news stations, etc.
now THAT is a brilliant idea. there'd be less silliness in the end!
Oh man, thank you Kristina for this video! Very eye-opening!
Similar experience with D.R. Horton with a $400k house. Never. Again.
I am a retired Home Inspector that was also certified to inspect Manufactured Homes. As a general rule, the service life of a Manufactured Home is around 30 years, I have some videos on my channel "Southern Stories" about what to look out for with these.
I just checked your channel and don't see anything related to manufactured homes .Thanks.
My interest rate with Clayton's own lender is actually better than my parents actual stick built house.. And was within/less than a lot of big banks at the time anyway in 2021. Also did not have payments until a month after my move in date. But yeah even though everything was finished, while waiting on inspectors they didn't allow going in the home, BUT was able to anyway due to one of the inspectors leaving the door unlocked so we checked it out.
I was disappointed how slow they where, and lazy with getting contractors out, I stayed on them if I didn't do that my move in date would've prob been 6 months longer. I was not happy with contractors they picked for the decking/skirting, but it was a decent price. Some other things I contracted out on my own which was more unrelated to the house as it was cheaper, like septic plumbing etc.
For me warranty work was fast generally within a few days if not sooner.
Water heater replaced (was before move in)
Front screen door fixed,
Back door completely replaced.
Some wiring in a light switch fixed
Even down to adding some missing light bulbs after move in which wasn't even a big deal.
Removing the hot water limitation in the showers (simple job anyway)
Right now one issue is the siding of the house is a bit warped already due to sun but from what I've learned thats more of the issue of the siding being baked by the sun with no shade due to no trees.
My friends experience was a bit different, but also from a different clayton dealership. They started the house buying process 6 months before I did, and I moved in 6 months before she did. They had a ton of things that had to get fixed.
In my area theres been a lot of new developments for housing, homes that cost 5x+ what I paid for mine but are stick built having foundation issues, cracks, poorly built etc. So its not just manufactured homes with those types of issues.
I looked at some Clayton homes on the local lot. $192,000 for a house with a plastic kitchen sink? Hahahaha
As soon as we took delivery of our modular home we gutted it and did our own interior finishings. Looks mint now.
Soooo I always come to listen to your advice. We still haven’t purchased yet after the let down 1.5 years ago. I was trying to pay attention to what was being said but lady I’m a licensed Esthetician and was stuck on how beautiful your skin is looking in this video. you’re just-a-glowin Sis❤😂 However I did get the main points of this video; hubby and I were considering modular and Clayton Homes.😮 Glad that you shared this experience. Thank you 🌺🌸
A correction here is needed. A modular home is built to the more strict state building code and will have a sticker usually in the electrical panel box that certifies it as modular. It may still have a chassis underneath it! They are called on frame modulars- but are still built to the more rigorous building code and this matters a lot for more preferred lending products. A manufactured home will have a HUD sticker and will be built to the less strict HUD building codes. (I am a real estate agent (15 years) and investor who has bought numerous manufactured and modular homes as investment properties.
Thanks
@@theresahutchins2463 modular homes don't have a chassis don't confuse yourself with trailers and prefabs
Yes a correction is needed on your comment apparently you're not understanding or grasping it
@theresahutchins2463 A builder can decide to build to a higher standard which is nice, but I think that legally if its built on a trailer frame its considered a manufactured home.
Realtor here (17 years) and a licensed dealer of modular & manufactured homes. Modular homes are not built on a chassis.
I have the one you showed in the factory called the Patriot. It is pure junk the floors are made of OSB and are squishy. There is no sub floor only the thin OSB. The large tub in the master bathroom was paper thin and cracked upon arrival they patched it and it cracked again so I replaced it with a Jacuzzi bathtub. The house they showed us had architectural shingles on the roof. They said that was standard. Mine was delivered with the cheapest composition shingles you could buy so that was a lie. I was also told that the exterior walls were made with 2x6s and interiors were all 2x4s that was also a lie. I wish I would have listened to people when they told me to stay clear of Clayton homes.
I've debated creating a video about my experience. Clayton's homes should be investigated. My home was placed right up against the edge of a huge hill. We asked for the home not to be placed there, but they did anyway. Dirt built up behind the home and caused water to run under the home. The roof leaked right from the beginning. Had an inspector check it out, and he said it was a faulty roof from the manufacturer. Clayton's said too bad and refused to fix it. The back door leaked water into the home. The water heater was leaking. Found out later, the wiring to the hot water heater and the ac unit was to small. The ceilings are uneven. The ac unit was to small for the square footage of the home. They said they would include a porch and then after closing, they claimed they never agreed to that. I could go on and on. It's a scam, and they force you into arbitration, which is another scam. You can't legally do anything because of the arbitration agreement.
@@user-wb4ty2ye7s 100%
I worked in Clayton manufacturing plant. I lasted one month and then NOPED out of there. The workmanship was bad. They prioritized production over everything, including quality and safety. It was really bad. I did not feel comfortable working there. The employee turnover was so bad. They don't just prey on the poor when selling but also with their workers. I saw multiple serious injuries on the job. None of them were covered by Clayton because the first thing they do is drug test. There was a well-known drug culture there that even the management was aware of, and they wanted it that way.
@@mattmcc7930 the RV manufacturers are doing the same.
wow. that's awful. glad you left.
After about 15-20 years these (formerly known as trailers) the roof and the floors sag and start leaking like a sieve. Often the roof leaks run inside the walls also and since they aren't really house quality walls they swell and fall apart as well. They rebranded them towards the end of the 1990's because before then these things depreciated over time because they are put together with spit and popsicle sticks. I remember renting a place in North Carolina and the walls swelled from leaks and when I pushed on the door a little the entire door frame fell out into the front lawn.
@@xineohpinakc264 not "spit and popsicle sticks."😂😂😂😂😂
Wow.... and where I live we have a. Clayton homes manufacturer here. I was thinking about looking at their options. But nevermind now
FYI, if you don’t build a proper foundation, the “pillars” are not filled with concrete to stabilize them. The home will break down quicker and your homeowners insurance will not cover any repairs caused by storms.
I am currently going through the same issue. My home is a 2022 model. Not only will Clayton not communicate with me but the Homeowners Insurance Assurant will not communicate either. My home was not set right. They supported the other half of my home with cinder blocks and 2x4's. This has resulted in the home not being level which has affected my roof, windows and doors. Which were cut in crooked due to home being set incorrectly. The gutters installed without a dripedge. I have microbial growth all over my windows and doors allow water to flood in during storms. They didn't even tack down any of my siding. Everything this man is saying is true! I have reported to BBB on Clayton and Homeowners Insurance as well. Next step is Attorney General and Hud. Report report report. Because they are scamming people!!!!! This should not be allowed. I literally in a home falling apart and nobody will help me.
We bought the “rio” two and a half years ago and cabinets are falling off hinges, base board and stuff is popping off walls, the skirting won’t stay down, the bathtub hardware is moving and leaking behind the tub. I don’t know what to do at this point and It makes me hurt on the inside.
This is just the things I remember off the top of my head
@@LoganBoyle-fn3if call a plumber
I work as a post setup "fix it" sub contractor for clayton homes in tucson. The homes were in such bad shape upon delivery that we had to deny homeowners entry. Only did a few jobs for them before I dropped them as a client.
Clayton reps doing damage control in the comments rofl
It's called lies. Let's call it what it is.
Sending in bots to do the damage control. Lol
The run around is the same thing they did with me on a Fridigaire fridge. Warranty is out, fridge worked for 2 month and i don't have a fridge. These owners of these businesses are cruel, evil and greedy!
@@tnt8106 you’re right.
@@tnt8106 Contact an attorney
I bought a Clayton home directly from the dealer in the town I live by It was already set up on an acre of land. Now I'll never say that the quality is the same as a site built home, but considering that it's a manufactured home it's not horrible. Sure the trim could be a little better quality and the appliances although new aren't top of the line, but we are coming up on two years and no major problems. Also during the first year anytime i called the manager at the lot he had somebody out here within a few days. Not saying they were the "best" contractors in the business, but they took care of the issue even if they had to come back. I guess I say all that not because I'm a diehard Clayton fan, but to say that first and foremost you get what you pay for and secondly the service you get at least during that first year may depend a great deal on the lot you bought the house from.
My experience was a little different. Our delivery timeline was 3 months. They finished a month earlier. Our manufactured builder (Champion Skyline) don't offer setup. So we had to find our own crew. And that took longer than it took them to build the house. So we had to pay a storage fee for the company to keep our home until our land was ready.
Fortunate we didn't need lending. We had sold our stick built home and used that money to purchase our manufactured home
We once actually found a Clayton Home that had a layout we loved. Oddly enough, the yard was open, and my husband and I went in, and started looking at homes that were unlocked and open to view. We looked at several. Then we went to the office to talk to them about the home we liked. The office was locked, although there was a vehicle outside. So we called the number out front and left a message. Never got a call back. Thankfully! I started looking up the model we liked online, and soon found many complaints about them. That's been a couple years ago. I don't know what the deal was with this Clayton yard. But I am glad they apparently weren't there. And I am glad they didn't give me a call back. We are about to build a home, rather than buy a mobile home. We already have a place to live, but it's a tiny house. It's manageable to live in, but we still want a larger home, because having out of town guests here is impossible, unless they're willing to sleep in a tent or our shop, or rent a mountain cabin ten or so miles down the road.
I don’t know about your guests, but sleeping in a tent or shop sounds fun. Of course, I have a shed I use as an office and I’ve slept in it a few times. 😊
I owned a Palm Harbor 18x80 and it was a great little home we actually miss it and we now own a regular home. We already decided if anything ever happens to this home Tornado or Fire instead of rebuilding ground up we will buy another Palm Harbor. Now that was over 20 years ago they may be different now, but back then they built them pretty well for the money.
@@JasPlun my husband worked for them 30 years ago and they made beautiful, high quality homes!
I just built a house in another state (for retirement) and I hired a local house inspector to do phase inspections; it cost very little and provided so much peace of mind! Plus if there was a problem it wouldn't be me (a layperson with no building experience) telling the builder how to do his job; it would be on the advice of a seasoned industry professional.
Just be wary alot of buikders will pay off these inspectors i seen so many vids yesterday of it
I got a brand new home, with warped front and back door, so water was getting in and caused mold in the walls all over. They told me it wasn't mold, and then it wasn't black mold, and then black mold isn't toxic. Then then chopped out some parts of the wall and sprayed it with some stuff and painted back over it. Meanwhile, there is black mold in the walls of a BRAND NEW HOUSE.
I think he should sue, time to lawyer up!
No Attorny will protect you when it comes to manufactured homes
There is usually a mandatory arbitration clause buried in all the paperwork which waives the right to any other legal proceeding.
@@dc-wp8oc It mandatory to inform the purchaser of any defects or damage prior to the sell 42 U.S.Code 5414.
Also before a contract is binding the retailer shall give the purchaser a copy of the MHD 1124 Form (MANUFACTURED HOUSING INSTALLATION WARRANTY and DISCLOSURE document
The manufacturer shall give the HUD 55014 Form. (WARRANTY FOR NEW MANUFACTURED HOME.
When the purchaser receives these forms as required by state and federal law.
Then it is a binding contract.
Than you can have arbitration
@@dc-wp8oc If the manufacturer doesn’t tell you of damage and if you don’t have the MHD 1124 , and the HUD 55014 Form it is not a binding contract.
You can sue
All excellent counsel for someone like myself who is looking into modular homes for my next purchase. You’re a saint and I appreciate you. Thank you so much!!
Please keep us updated. Thank you!
I am so glad to have ran across this video. I was in the process of buying when water was coming in my master bedroom. I stopped the process
Thank you and David!
When we were looking for our house we watched a lot of videos and Clayton had the most red flags.
That’s because they sell more. The production is all the same.
Yah. Wanna see red flags?
D R Horton. This is what dishonesty looks like.@@sunshine3914
YES...ALL COMPANIES MUST BE HELD RESPONSIBLE TO PRODUCE 💯 EXCELLENCE FOR CONSUMER
I would only go through a preferred financial institution with EXPERIENCE in lending.
I have ZERO respect for W B
Get a LICENSED CONTRACTOR PLUMBER ELECTRICIAN ALL WITH LIABILITY INSURANCE ‼️💯
I Called ALL in County myself BEFORE starting the process.
YOU OFFER EXCELLENT INFORMATION AGAIN KRISTINA ‼️💯🌟
WHAT A NIGHTMARE! STAY AWAY!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING DAVID, BECAUSE I WAS CONTEMPLATING BUYING ONE OF THEIR HOMES.
Moral of the story is, don’t buy Clayton Homes.
Glad I found this video honestly. We have a bunch of Clayton dealers here in MO. I was looking to sell the manufactured home I live in now to get a Clayton. Thanks for the video!
We got one in 2019. First off was problems with heat pump. It had to be charged every year because of a leak and thier hvac person wouldn't fix. Finally I hired my own hvac and they fixed it. I had to push the Clayton to get reimbursed. Also have had shingles blow off every year and they said it wasn't under my warranty. Also siding was installed incorrectly and began to get rimples in some pieces and one was replaced but other not. Had to have front and back doors changed because of ripples in doors also and they did replace. They are overpriced for the quality given. Wished I had known more before buying so anyone interested in one make sure you inspect it or hire one to inspect. They could be decent homes but because of speedy building they sacrifice quality homes and I did tell the manager this but it fell on deaf ears. They tried to pour thin footers but I was there and made them pour to specs and also had a county inspector to check them. I am redoing it one project at a time and soon I will improve what they cobbled up.
All those that purchased homes from Clayton Homes should all get together for a huge Class Action Suit against Clayton Homes. This is terrible.
Such a shame! Out Clayton home from 25 years ago was (and is) GREAT!
Probabaly before Buffet bought it out.
Time is not on your side
The new ones are horrible.
The new ones are horrible.
FYI, modular homes can be brought in on "a chassis" like manufactured homes. There was a lawsuit brought in North Carolina that confirmed this over 20 years ago. The difference in modular and manufactured is the code they follow when built. Modular homes follow the International Residential Code (ask IRC) which is the same code stick built homes are built to. Manufactured homes follow the HUD code. HUD code homes are minimal construction but are designed to address affordability.
But I think the discrepancy is a 100% Modular is not left on a chassis, that is considered a manufactured home even though it may look similar. They might be transported to your land site similarly to a manufactured, but a true modular is attached to a permanent foundation like a traditional home. This is very important when it comes to financing,resale,insurance and zoning. So the whole promotion of "cross modern" manufactured housing might be confusing to someone who thinks they're getting a certified modular home. A manufactured home can be turned into real property with land for deed purposes, but it can never be turned into a modular home after the fact simply because of the way it's originally constructed(titled). They need to be very clear when you're buying these homes what they actually are because it could end up being a costly mistake for buyers by attempting to blur the line between the two.
I'm a painter and I warn customers about the beautiful web sites and slick 'estimators' they send over. A majority have a very poor quality of labor, let alone their painters. Their prices are more than a painter but the profit goes to 'the suits' or the franchise.
Thank You for posting! Informative responses as well. Helped us with our purchase decision.
I have worked in new home construction as a project manager and customer service service manager for 30. I have worked for 3 of the nations largest builders. What I have witnessed over the years is shocking. With a few the P M bonus is tied to the amount of items or damage items . They will often lie to the customer at settlement walkthroughs about when to list those items. The fewer items can mean a bigger bonus. I know we can get excited and overwhelmed at settlement but no matter what make sure every single item you are concerned about is in writing before or at settlement. If not often the excuse will be, how do we know that that item was not caused by you. Please always get everything in writing tied to a period of time it will be completed. I cant number the times I have seen a betrayed customer by other employees.
THANK YOU! Watching your video helped me decide weather to purchase a manufactured house, I am definitely not going to go down that road…at my age I could not handle the stress.
Even though I worked in the industry for 12 years, there was something that came to my attention a few years ago… since unrestricted land is so hard to find in my area, they started offering ‘land packages’ with the purchase of a mobile home. They sold this young couple a home & 3 acres, but there had been no land earmarked for this purpose. It had been 3.5 years that this couple had been making payments, & they still hadn’t come up with the land.
My wife’s great aunt Ruth Clayton helped her son build
the first homes they made in Halls Tennessee. I don’t know about the quality but I used to deliver parts to the manufacturing plants. Lots of cheap stuff goes into those homes. My first manufactured house had a leak and sag the insulation on the bottom had a cut a hole in it to let the water out, don’t think I would buy another one.
My Clayton is a 1999 model. I have been to them for parts. They tell me they never built a model of the size and type as mine. It's a double that is only 20 ft by 40 ft. There are Clayton tags throughout. It is thin built but is holding together fairly well for the type of materials used. I would not replace it with another Clayton, based the communications with Clayton people.
Was probably built with lost parts