It really just all depends on what raid you enjoy more and are better at. Maxeff toa's (38min 540's assumed here) are about 20m/hr Maxeff solo cox (17min 32k) is about 13.5m/hr Cox has more potential to increase gp/hr above those rates by dps alts or scaling. (huge scales with dps alts can surpass 30m/hr ) But the most important thing about any raids grinding is enjoying yourself and not getting burned out. So don't overthink it and do whatever you find yourself enjoying the most.
Great video! I think I totally agree. While cox has potential for some big money items, purples feel so uncommon there, while at Toa, I pull a purple light pretty often in comparison. I think something you could have gone over more is specifically the rate for the Tbow and Shadow at each raid. Normal Cox Tbow rate is around 1 in 1kish raids, but 300 invo Toa Shadow rate is only around 1 in 480ish raids. So, the fact that toa makes less money on average is made up for by that feeling of playing the lottery and possibly walking away with 1B+
Sorry, I may have misspoke in the video, but adding path invos *does* increase purple odds. At least according to the osrs Tombs of Amascut Loot calculator. If we plug in a raid level 300, 1 team size, no path invocations, while walk the path is active, we get a 4.2476% chance of getting a purple drop. If we keep everything the same, but turn on pathseeker under the path invocations, the purple chance is now 4.3291%. 4.3993% with pathfinder turned on, and 4.4709% with pathmaster on. Hopefully that helps!
@@SignedNick ah yes that makes more sence, as I was always under the impression path invos directly increase enemy hit points, therefor more points. Thanks for all the calculations and correction 🤘
@@chukareci can solo 500+ extremely consistently solo and get over a 15% purple chance…. which is more than 50% more purple chance than a 400. Eventually the 400s starting feeling like 300s and a waste of time
As an Iron with 500 kc in all, TOB is the most fun, Solo Cox has the best pacing, and TOA is a miserable and tedious raid. P1 wardens is terible design (its literally a skilless stat check) and P3 wardens take 2x as long as it should (compare it to P2 verzik). Im just resigning myself to grinding out a Tbow (mush longer grind) before going for the shadow.
@@moo_im_a_cow if u can do a 500 solo "blindfolded" surely you can google the reward chest for both raids and see that COX loot is worth way more than TOA loot currently which is what my comment was referring to.
@@moo_im_a_cow if you're still actually mid-late game gear progressing and havent already spent the large time investment necessary to learn each niche method necessary to get through 500+ comfortably consistently- COX is infinitely more logical to do, much more chill & average drop is 10x more expensive.
I would do cox except I cba scouting and learning solo Olm. If I could just preset the layout beforehand and didn't have to do 4:1 to solo Olm then I would do cox.
Just learn 4:0 mage and die with an inventory before dmging olm, main thing to know about olm is his head moves like a scale would if you added weight to one side and none to the other, if he’s ever looking at you try to make sure you get an auto off and then try to get his head to turn away and auto again
@@lv99roidmage25 really? I'm pretty experienced at doing solo toa and without hardcore run on you lose like 60% of your points from dying, is that not the case in cox?
if u wanna make GP at COX, u pot heavily scaled raids. Max eff 1+22 without out dps alts(feeding pet chance to main) is about 28mil/hr. Takes about 2hrs for 60-61% purp chance. Potting CM/Solo, or 1+1 is more or less a waste of time if youre looking to make gp at cox.
@@TroyzBleedles rooms like thieving still scale off the level of your skills, i said total level not combat. I get 5k more pts on my friends iron than I used to on my main so Im sure it translates to cms
@@bernhnic2 majority of the community isn’t soloing tob lol. Tob is the most fun of the 3 hands down but toa right now is in a good spot since monkey room change. Nylos is a crap room still and it sucks in HMT. Maiden, xarp and Verz are def the most fun bosses of all 3 raids
I’d call ToA a lot more laid back, you can literally watch a movie while consistently ripping sub 40 500s with some practice, CoX feels a lot more engaging, each raid has it’s place for sure, at least for me
I haven't even done a single raid yet lol but your vid has inspired me to learn! Ty def subbing
toa entry mode isn’t to bad
It really just all depends on what raid you enjoy more and are better at.
Maxeff toa's (38min 540's assumed here) are about 20m/hr
Maxeff solo cox (17min 32k) is about 13.5m/hr
Cox has more potential to increase gp/hr above those rates by dps alts or scaling. (huge scales with dps alts can surpass 30m/hr )
But the most important thing about any raids grinding is enjoying yourself and not getting burned out. So don't overthink it and do whatever you find yourself enjoying the most.
In terms of enjoyment:
ToB > CM > HMT > CoX >>>>>>>>>> ToA
@@Popcornio mine is the opposite on all 😅. If it was the other Way around. Tob really gets boring fast
How many raids per hour you can do at each difficulty is also a factor to consider
Great video! I think I totally agree. While cox has potential for some big money items, purples feel so uncommon there, while at Toa, I pull a purple light pretty often in comparison. I think something you could have gone over more is specifically the rate for the Tbow and Shadow at each raid. Normal Cox Tbow rate is around 1 in 1kish raids, but 300 invo Toa Shadow rate is only around 1 in 480ish raids. So, the fact that toa makes less money on average is made up for by that feeling of playing the lottery and possibly walking away with 1B+
Signed Nick, I loved this video so much, I had to hit the like button!
^ stolen channel and/or bought sub count
What ever is fun or what ever you feel like playing
no path invos increase purple chance? how so?
great vid!
Sorry, I may have misspoke in the video, but adding path invos *does* increase purple odds. At least according to the osrs Tombs of Amascut Loot calculator. If we plug in a raid level 300, 1 team size, no path invocations, while walk the path is active, we get a 4.2476% chance of getting a purple drop. If we keep everything the same, but turn on pathseeker under the path invocations, the purple chance is now 4.3291%. 4.3993% with pathfinder turned on, and 4.4709% with pathmaster on. Hopefully that helps!
@@SignedNick ah yes that makes more sence, as I was always under the impression path invos directly increase enemy hit points, therefor more points. Thanks for all the calculations and correction 🤘
@@mightymotoxkid yes, that's true. However, more monster hp also means longer raids
Everybody knows 400 toa is the winner of all raids, and whoever says the opposite, dies on babas gap
I like 500s but I feel you dog. Toa gets a lot of undeserved hate
@@wrenandrews3782 500s are just too inconsistent, specially in groups
@@chukareci can solo 500+ extremely consistently solo and get over a 15% purple chance…. which is more than 50% more purple chance than a 400. Eventually the 400s starting feeling like 300s and a waste of time
@@moo_im_a_cow gz you are part of a handful of players who can do that, i bet i can do it too but i cba
8 man 300s are just good fun.
for me, insanity gets a lil too sweaty for the raid to be enjoyable, but 400s here n there are fine just not to farm out
Only problem I have with toa is the purples are worthless unless u get a shadow
Chambers be ready to go on dry streaks unless doing cms
cms is worse then doing regs if purple hunting
@@leapstones just dont be slow and its not
As an Iron with 500 kc in all, TOB is the most fun, Solo Cox has the best pacing, and TOA is a miserable and tedious raid. P1 wardens is terible design (its literally a skilless stat check) and P3 wardens take 2x as long as it should (compare it to P2 verzik). Im just resigning myself to grinding out a Tbow (mush longer grind) before going for the shadow.
i had to make this choice a few weeks ago and its chambers all day for me, the value of drops says enough.
what value? my 500+ invo raids that i can complete blindfolded are over 15% purple chance SOLO
@@moo_im_a_cow if u can do a 500 solo "blindfolded" surely you can google the reward chest for both raids and see that COX loot is worth way more than TOA loot currently which is what my comment was referring to.
@@moo_im_a_cow if you're still actually mid-late game gear progressing and havent already spent the large time investment necessary to learn each niche method necessary to get through 500+ comfortably consistently- COX is infinitely more logical to do, much more chill & average drop is 10x more expensive.
@@moo_im_a_cow😂
@@moo_im_a_cow every drop in toa is shit besides shadow lmao
Cox = Inventory managing simulator
@@ChrisColmenter i always tell people when im teaching them cox that the difference between a good player and a great player is the way they bank
Cm cox = inventory managing simulator on steroids
@@Pvm_enthuasist u do the same thing every time. gotta disagree with u boss
43 TOA invo 300 done.. No purple :D
I love cox
Nice vid
Cox If you like having fun :)!
I couldn’t disagree more honestly lol
@@wrenandrews3782 Solo cox is more fun than the other 2 raids combined imo
@@Assi321I like solo CoX, but anyone saying it’s more fun than ToB is either lying or just can’t do it.
@@Popcornio I can tob. But i don't find it fun at all
@@Popcornio tobs only fun if you get a team that wont be a pack of bitches with egos.
CoX will always be the best. Not even a question. ...Ive greenlogged ToA.
Toa only worth if you get shadows. 😅 you ain't making shit without a shadow drop.
Comparing solo cox to toa is literally crazy to me to no question its toa
I would do cox except I cba scouting and learning solo Olm. If I could just preset the layout beforehand and didn't have to do 4:1 to solo Olm then I would do cox.
You can do the die with an inventory of supplies strat. With that you really don't even have to turn the head. Just deal with the special attacks
Just learn 4:0 mage and die with an inventory before dmging olm, main thing to know about olm is his head moves like a scale would if you added weight to one side and none to the other, if he’s ever looking at you try to make sure you get an auto off and then try to get his head to turn away and auto again
but dying means less purples
@@Nick-ij5nt like barely it’s like a .5 difference
@@lv99roidmage25 really? I'm pretty experienced at doing solo toa and without hardcore run on you lose like 60% of your points from dying, is that not the case in cox?
if u wanna make GP at COX, u pot heavily scaled raids. Max eff 1+22 without out dps alts(feeding pet chance to main) is about 28mil/hr. Takes about 2hrs for 60-61% purp chance.
Potting CM/Solo, or 1+1 is more or less a waste of time if youre looking to make gp at cox.
Can you share any discords/videos with info on how to do these megascales?
@@jaepy3354 9 million purple sweets
solo cm cox is like 62-63k points. idk where in the world u got 55,6k points from. even if u tightrope skip u arent close to that
Points in cox are based off ur total levels
@@Kalimar07 that is if u decide to scale it Down, which is Always bad. U Can make it not scale to combat lvl and it is more points Per hour
@@TroyzBleedles rooms like thieving still scale off the level of your skills, i said total level not combat. I get 5k more pts on my friends iron than I used to on my main so Im sure it translates to cms
Tob>>>>>>any of the other raids
103 kc dry rn, doesn’t feel better
It's pretty hard to solo tob
Tob is the best. New Solo changes were good af
@@guusgeluk3693 go with a team then
@@bernhnic2 majority of the community isn’t soloing tob lol. Tob is the most fun of the 3 hands down but toa right now is in a good spot since monkey room change. Nylos is a crap room still and it sucks in HMT. Maiden, xarp and Verz are def the most fun bosses of all 3 raids
I’d call ToA a lot more laid back, you can literally watch a movie while consistently ripping sub 40 500s with some practice, CoX feels a lot more engaging, each raid has it’s place for sure, at least for me
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toa is a fkn joke 115 kc 1 fang so far. I got a fang kit, zeb remnant. I am done with toa trash
TOA is better because I actually managed to make money there 😛
did someone say tob ?
Solo tob? Nty
@@guusgeluk3693Ur just shit if you cant solo tob after last weeks changes
Both, play the video game
solo tob
Just started playing anyone wanna play with me??
TOB
Solo tob? Nty
TOB Scary
@@SignedNick tobs so easy, the hardest part of the raid is having to deal with manbabies
I don’t have the concentration to learn a raid but tob>
None, shit game never pays out unless you're a content creator / ironmeme
Tob >
why are we larping like we know about the game