Hey everyone! Thanks for checking out the video! Obviously, this is a thought experiment more than anything - there are many reasons that an infinite time world is clearly impossible. It's also pretty cool to hear from people who have more technical programming experience regarding RNG - that is an aspect that I didn't cover whatsoever. Nonetheless, I had a ton of fun thinking of crazy ways for things to happen - do you have any ideas I didn't mention?
this reminds me of Xeelee Sequence and similar works of fiction on unimaginable timescales. imagine the society of endermen working under tirelessly their limitations for billions of years to reach this goal.
Spawn chunks ruin everything. Sorry. The next step is to figure out how to load anything that isn't a spawn chunk (and fitting inside the default mobcap). Also, after a bit of watching, there would be a lot more entropy to deal with, but I guess infinite time could set it up well enough.
@@melissaliechty2923 yes it can when the dragon comes down it hits endermen which then attack it till they die so if the dragon gets so many endermen after it that it can't healfast enough the enderman can kill it
Not on bedrock edition he comes down but when the dragon comes down with all crystals you probably won’t kill it without breaking crystals also enderman cant hit it when it swoops down
There is already a minecraft seed where the obby from a woodland mansion finishes a portal that can also light itself. That avoids this complicated mess but its fun to think about!
10:29 - At this moment, the phrase "the chances are low, but they're never zero" is being taken to a whole another level. There's not just one astronomically low chance, there's thousands of them, requiring to happen one by one.
Not to mention the "hundreds of endermen using overworld blocks, wandering into the end, and placing them just right to make stairs up to each and every one of the pillars (and, not mentioned: never having these staircases destroyed by the dragon along the way)"
11:00 three seeds have been found where a ruined portal generated below an obsidian room of the woodland mansion and is completed. Also the lava in the ruined portal can spread fire to nearby Blocks and thereby lighting the portal
Logic-Error with the Enderdragon that leaves him undefeated: he would kill them QUICKER than the 'random chances' can happen. Remember, we're talking about 'Infinity over Time', not 'Infinity at Once'. No matter how much times passes, it will NEVER happen that such a massive amount of Mobs as needed will be in the End at the same time.
Doesn't matter how many Enderman die, as long as 1 enderman can place 1 block before dying, 1000 enderman can build a staircase to the crystals, and once the crystals are all gone, it's only a matter of time.
@@aaronking2020 except that the dragon flying aroud will remove blocks faster than the endermen could ever hope to build, also the dragon doen't attack endermen
This isn’t a speed run, its a slow run. Or maybe theres no ‘run’ at all considering no player input. Just the natural forces of RNG spending eternity beating the enderdragon.
Imagine a stream of MC just playing itself Edit You could code an AI that's learned to play it to work with one of those chat bots. And the chat bot will place signs to talk to the chat
@@uncommonsense360 How can you be so sure? Chance is random after all, with no proof either way 40 trillion years, despite extremely unlikely is possible
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@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 With an avarage luck this would take years that has billions of zeros in it. Getting that tnts to end will take so long. It is not gonna be done by only one enderman it is gonna be done by many many hundreds. Bc we need a lot of different mansions and they all are really far away from the end portal
Could you imagine, playing solo you go through the whole process of getting eyes, armor, weapons, ect. Then you find the portal, and it’s completed. You go through it, there’s massive stair cases to the tops of the pillars, and the dragon is already dead.
Imagine leaving your world running for a while then remember you left it afk but now there’s a hole to the portal and no dragon but giant craters and staircases in the end
"for a while" in this context is the greatest understatement i have ever come across and prodably will in my life. whoops left my pc running for googolplex amounts of universe lifetimes.
Imagine spawing in a world, then getting distracted and ending up cryogenically freezing yourself for a thousand years, accidentally leaving your computer on the whole time. When you wake up, you realise you left it on and look at the screen and see a fox with an elytra in its mouth next to another fox with a dragon egg
I wish there were a mod that give way more life and dynamic to the game: Trees grows and dies, biomes changes, animals migrates, villages and pillagers expand and vanish... Heck, even the rain corrode the landscape.
@@cthulhufhtagn7520 some of them do, for example, Dynamic Trees makes trees (and by extension forests) grow and die realistically over time. There are several mods which add seasons, but a favourite of mine is Serene Seasons. Different seasons have different weather, temperatures, rainfall, foliage, etc. As the seasons change, snow will fall and melt (even in biomes that wouldn't usually have any), leaves will flourish and wither, and the terrain will live and breathe with a life of it's own. As far as the villages go, I'm almost certain there are mods for that, but I don't know about animal migrations. Rain weathering the landscape might be insanely hard to find - it's the only one in this list that might not actually exist yet. But the rest of what you mention is actually possible!
@@innacrisis6991 i personally think that they should add erosion caused from rivers, ir maybe a winter season, where there's a lot of ice and snow, when summer comes, all that turns into water, causing floods, that would be very cool
15:15 It actually goes further! The fox could return to the overworld and be killed by a skeleton arrow, dropping the elytra, which could then be picked up and worn by a zombie!.
Other things that would eventually happen: All forests would burn down by lightning/exposed lava lakes until there's no tree left in the world; All villages with an active farmer and enough houses would be wiped out by zombie attacks; Ghasts would move from the nether to all 3 dimensions, making the ender dragon battle easier if they get there before the dragon was defeated (I guess? not sure how they interact with mobs outside the nether); And a funny thought: a world without a player is a world without Phantoms.
On the forests burning down, lightning can't spread fire very far (unless the random tick speed is very very high) due to lightning only happening during rain.
This reminds me of a famous quote from a Brothers Grimm story: “In Lower Pomerania is the Diamond Mountain, which is two miles and a half high, two miles and a half wide, and two miles and a half in depth; every hundred years a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on it, and when the whole mountain is worn away by this, then the first second of eternity will be over.”
Something similar in Buddhism, if we got a mountain 10 KM high, wide, and deep, and once every hundred years someone rubs a silk cloth on it's peak, once the entire mountain ceases to exist, an eon happened.
@@cavedmanjim249 Ooooof, this hurts to read. Everything started so great, but then you implied that you're _certain_ you know there's an afterlife, despite their being quite literally zero evidence to support that hypothesis. The truth is... you *don't* know where you'll be spending eternity (don't know why you capitalized it either), and neither I or anyone else knows either. I do hope you're right because that'd be pretty darn cool, but you probably aren't. In all likelihood, we're all going to spend eternity in the dirt. Eventually, maybe our original matter could be reincorporated into a new organism, and that's kinda neat to think about! P.S. this is not what they meant by "spread the good word of god" 😂 (what you _do_ have is FAITH that you'll go to heaven. My point was that that is not the same as knowing because knowing requires evidence, while faith requires none. That's kinda the whole point... wouldn't be very difficult if you could point at the fossil record and go "no dude, look. Heaven exists, and here's the proof!", ya know? It would defeat the entire point of organized religion.. My second point is just that from a practical standpoint, you should stop doing this. It has the exact _opposite_ effect that you think it does. Seriously, go look into it)
reminds me of the "library of babel" a story about an infinite library filled with books with completely random letters printed on them. Because it is infinite, it would somewhere contain any work of text you can imagine. Jacob Geller did a great video on it called the shape of infinity.
It depends. If you say, you have completed random book, with random letters, it depends on the letters, as you can't build a book, that has a letter, that is not in that list
The catch is it will contain every possible book. So yes, it will contain, for example, an exact copy of the Bible. But it will also contain many, many variations that have a few typos. But it goes further: for every possible name, there will be a version where all occurrences of Jesus are replaced with that name. There will be a version that's the exact same as the original but reversed. There will be one that's identical to the original except that it has the Bee Movie script inserted exactly 2/3 of the way through.
I don't know if this happens in newer versions but in the PS3 version, when you're in Overworld, you can still hear the explosion when the Ender Dragon dies.
There's still a chance that my wolf won't be forever alone, stuck in an eternal hell in which every other mob ignores it leaving it there alone and in pain that its owner died.
@@kobax9999 Not really a "genius", I have always thought of this, along with a lot of other people. That is like saying that a cashier is a genius for creating the job, when there is literally so many cashiers.
It's now canon (to me) that on failed Hardcore worlds, the mobs beat the game and finish every project the player had in mind (as close as possible at least)
You can do it yourself you know, download loTAS mod, watch some tutorials, set yourself into spectator mode, and use “AI Manipulation” function. It’s a bit glitchy but it should work.
bruh that would perhaps be impossible, even in an automatic way digging through hundreds of possibilities per frame for several minutes if not hours could be unfeasable. But it would be cool if someone found a way to maniuplate rng and make this INSANE thing happen. You don't understand just how unlikely this is, doing it "naturally" would take 10 to the power of x minutes, but x itself would be a HUMONGOUS number and basically it would take fing forever.
I had a philosophical talk about this with my friend who was also into the game last year. I’m glad it’s getting recognition. Imagine if the Minecraft world simply existed as it did without the exerted will of one highly intelligent, undying being. One of our key points was that from the standpoint of the Minecraft world, it sees a player in the flesh as a humanoid, average height, blocky figure. But the truth is inside the mind of the player exists in a whole other dimension (the real world), and observes the Minecraft world omnipotently.
This video, conceptually, is incredible, and I'm very glad I happened to find it. The idea of infinite Minecraft, or a game playing itself independent from any player is super intriguing; what kind of stories could happen in this kind of world? Would the mobs build their own structures? (What would they make, and why?) Would they explore the entire world together, or destroy it all? Imagine this is a hardcore world, and the player died a very long time ago. Life goes on in their absence, and the creatures put into motion their own world, more impressive than anything any player could ever imagine. Monuments and towers dedicated to nothing tower over the endless horizon, shrouding the sun, and everything that anybody thought was possible. Imagine a new player joins this world, somehow, someday, and they walk through this foreign place, and they realise there, in that moment, that Minecraft really doesn't need them. It just needs time.
it's really not. Brownian motion cannot just stop existing, period. However a sequence of incredibly unlikely, but possible events will ALWAYS occur given enough time (ad infinitum). For more information, look up Infinite monkey theorem
Things that would realistically happen: evokers, vindicators, piglin brutes, turtles and possibly some more would certainly go extinct. Mostly by random accidents. Villages would eventually get blown up by creepers. Once the last bed is gone, the villagers are also dead.
actually dreams lucks bigger lol as expected, some people took this reply seriously. guys im kidding dude. im just making fun of dream cause he has good “luck”
If the fox with the elytra then returns to the overworld and finds a sweet berry bush, it will take the berries and drop the elytra, which can be picked up by a zombie. I don't think it can use the elytra, but at least it equipped it.
Foxes can't return to the overworld. Gateways only generate above the ground and since Endermen can't manipulate any end block, making a stair to the gateway is impossible and foxes can't return to the central island. If a fox ends up in an end ship, there it will stay.
@@rz2374 Actually there are 3 shulkers on each End ship, and assuming the Zoglins somehow didn't kill the one on the ledge outside (Actually they'd just float and die of fall damage if they tried) the fox could actually float into the gateway again... EDIT: Assuming that is that the seeking bullets of the shulkers somehow missed, or the fox jumped in the way of the zoglin and took the shot, I don't actually know if Shulkers would straight up target a fox
I love how at 1:46 all the sheep stay in pretty much the same spot through the timelapse while that one runs around them in circles like the world's on fire...
there are two types of probabilities presented in the video,which I found interesting. Some things are guaranteed to happen after an infinite amount of time on any world, such as the builds the Endermen could make, but also the kind that is not guaranteed, such as the End Portal generating with all eyes of Ender.
Yes, there’s a subtlety there which I didn’t elaborate upon. I’m assuming that all things I need exist within a seed somewhere but it’s totally possible that there isn’t a seed like that
@@RetroGamingNow The main problem is though that mobs spawning does not happen at all when a player is not present. That kinda makes the whole premise fall apart, unfortunately.
12:39 Keyword: MOST Endermen CAN pick up short flowers, which are flammable, meaning the endermen could make a path of grass then a path of flowers and have the flowers catch on fire themselves using lava or something, then the fire can perfectly spread to the portal lighting it in the same way you light portals on skyblock
Time could be infinite but there will be a time eventually when nothing will ever change or happen anymore, kinda like the universe's heat death theory, here's why: Creepers will sometimes explode, given enough time, creepers will explode the whole world down to bedrock, but mobs can't spawn in bedrock so the whole world ends up dying essentially. Im gonna call this the "Minecraft Entropy Death Theory"
It wouldn’t happen because explosions do not damage blocks in water, and even if endermen drain the entire ocean, there are going to be some water sources in caves or somewhere else which can’t be destroyed, say if they have obsidian over them
@@jamesgabor9284 Water prevents spawning as well, so while creepers couldn't reduce the whole world down to bedrock where nothing can spawn, essentially the same result will happen, but with bedrock plus blocks covered with water
There is one issue with all this: random number generators in computers arent completely random. They do have faint patterns. You plot the outputs of a large no of random outputs onto a paper, you will see them. I have no idea how this will effect mob movement, but it COULD make the specified sequence of events impossible.
@@RetroGamingNow Totally random number generators would make seeds useless, or at least make them not generate the same world each time. On top of that, despite tending towards "normal" generation, if you actually used random numbers you could extrapolate what you talked about in the video to include the world generating in *extremely* weird ways.
Could is an important word to use. Maybe a mob cant climb all the way up a one block wide staircase, but if enough blocks are placed to make it more like a pyramid, then it could be possible. The variations in the world and the motions of the mobs (including colliding with each other) also lead to a high level of chaos, such that the pseudo random inputs will lead to nearly random behavior. Even with the rounding of values, I think it would be possible*.
I used to play yogbox mod in 2012 or something... it had advanced villagers that actually updated the village themselves. They built new houses when they got the materials and if you befriended them, they would even build a house for you block by block. I was so amazed to see such advanced AI in 2012. What a great mod
And let's not forget that at a point in time, endermen could pick up pretty much everything. It became a nightmare for builds, so it got changed to the current limitation.
Enough randomly fired arrows could eventually kill an evoker, resulting in the dropping of a totem of undying, meaning zombies and foxes can hold this rare item. not to mention, a close enough cave next to the desert pyramid and a few explosions at just the right place could result in the tnt being near enough to the tnt under the pyramid to make other things a lot easier. Also iron golems spawn naturally in villages that are big enough, and naturally repopulate if there are enough beds and a farmer villager, meaning that an iron golem could technically wander to the end. When the dragon is close enough the golems will try to attack and while they're not successful most of the time they can still produce a small amount of damage here and there.
the tnt room could also generate in such a way where the structure is clipped by some cave generation in a way where the endermen could take it from below, or from the side if they cant take hanging blocks
This depends on having a lot of TNT, but TNT is barely a renewable block even with player input and certainly not without. Fortunately, *most* of the uses are in fact doable by creepers.
@@realtimestatic With things that are renewable without a player, you can say that with probability 1 they will eventually happen. It’s more likely the TNT-dependent things just never will because you’ll use it up first
Not to be that guy, but in most cases the thing with the portal being full will never happen😅 This means that this won’t happen in your world no matter how long you wait😊
I think in order for this to work, you can't just let one world run infinitely, you have to let infinite world generate and ran infinitely to produce these results
The part with the skeleton jockey makes me think of a scene where the spider giggles maniacally as it charges towards the end gateway, while the skeleton screams in terror, yelling "PUT ME DOWN! _PUT ME DOWN!"_
"Sir you have been in a coma for several trillion years, fortunately you left your minecraft world open the whole time" "Oh boy, can't wait to check on my favourite ender dragon, ocean monument, and elytra!"
3:10 I don't think they could actually built that. Endermen, like the player, have a certain reach where they can place or remove blocks, and that tower is too high. They would have to teleport on top of it, and then they wouldn't be able to place because they're standing in the space they want to put the block. If the pillar was two blocks wide it would be possible, but a one block pillar isn't.
Now this might really prove that endermans were humans before, and when their mind got imprisoned by the ender dragon, they still have the most basic things a player can do in their subconsciousness
Actually, it's astronomically more likely that all matter in the universe decays into nothingness before the mobs even have the chance to destroy their first end crystal.
@@MrBruh-dv9fv actually, if we code the game in such a way that we can speed up time real high (like 1k Minecraft days in a milli second) and have the game run on a super quantum computer, is it possible in our universe lifespan?
@@angrywolfjr7164 well, it's also impossible because of two other factors. Minecraft is not truly random and there is no infinite TNT. If we removed those two factors then it should be possible on super ultra mega sped up time in one universe lifetime.
Endermen alone can actually build some of the "impossible" structures. Non-gravity blocks can be removed without the above ones falling down. Technically also possible in water with ludicrously better circumstances since endermen take damage and easily teleport if possible in a distance, but that's not guaranteed so ocean bridges could happen. What about bridging over end void? Likely yes. TNT cannons are possible assuming a mob could survive that in water and skeletons fire flame arrows on enough TNTs, but that's a 1 way trip. But endermen can carry mushrooms and mycelium. And mushrooms grow (at least I think they can do it the end). That's a bit of horizontal distance, but the height limit blocks it early, if we assume it being canon (though it has changed with updates). TNT could blow up the red mushroom blocks in a very specific way (since they don't have a flat top like brown), but that would only about double the distance. Utilizing TNT cannons it could be also done from the other end, but ludicrously more time needed. ~1000 blocks to cross and about 100 blocks done. I can't think of a further solution rn but I do strongly believe there is a way. However, if we don't strictly stay in the game, still having no player input, there's cosmic rays to worry about. If enough of them hit the computer in the right way, literally anything could be made happen in the game.
@@nukl3argam3r38 He means they can hold mushrooms, like the crop, they can also pickup flowers for example, but mushrooms dont grow into mushroom trees without bonemeal however so I think the point is mute
i feel like the heat death of the universe could occurs a quadrillion times over before any of this just happens by chance, that's how low the chances of this are, interesting story nonetheless tho
I'd argue that the chances are even lower than that. I feel like to make it comparable the universe would have to have its heat death occur a quadrillion times and in each of those universes my dad comes home with the milk.
it could also happen exactly tomorrow. Random statistics are interesting because while the chances are close to zero, there is still a chance of it happening any time.
I know my hardcore world is getting old when I start finding caves full of sand, gravel, grass etc. I find it funny and it makes the world feel more alive
A naturaly generated nether portal happens also when a portal type 6 (1 block missing) spawns directly under a mansion obsidian structure. Lava from ruined portal burns down the mansion and light up the portal.
@@Inspirator_AG112 I haven't actually found any yet, but it's possible, as in seed *-7155247851033793149* at coords *-1173 65 -869* there is a desert temple that, when loaded in from the east, collides with an underground lava pool which cuts off part of the TNT (and unfortunately hides it under a new layer of stone) and replaces the sandstone under the pressure plate with air.
Endermen could make an iron farm, All they need is 5 beds to generate close enough to each other, 5 villagers to claim and sleep in those beds, enough leaves around the villagers to limit golem spawning, a platform for the golems to spawn on, and a lava pit to kill the iron golems. They wouldn't be able to put it in a chest, but foxes could get iron in their mouths from a machine that spawns and kills golems.
@@firkejdjneii28283 5 beds can spawn close in a village, leading to them being claimed. They can't pick up leaves, and I'm not seeing any spawn-proof blocks in the list they can grab. You're correct, sir
Nah I once watched an enderman snowman jockey and Fox do it all in under 10 minutes. Woulda been world record but they accidentally left some mods on :(
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Well, even though you can have infinite amount of time, you don't have infinite amount of pumpkins and TNT, therefore not everything is probable. For example the thing with liting portal by TNT probably won't happen even after infinite amount of time, because there is only so many TNT blocks in the finite (although extremely big) Minecraft world
actually i looked it up it said 2.25 million mansions per world, and the room generates rarely, so im assuming theres 2000 woodland mansions with this room, so 4000 tnt, which is plenty for this video's purposes
That unfortunately, is true. Even if we have infinite time, the resources of the world are still finite, enclosed within a border. If only there was no border, this improbable assortment of scenarios would not require a specific seed and could be truly be executed in any natural world with absolute surety
11:14 Some time ago i had a world which had a Ruined Portal with 1 missing obisidian block. That obsidian block was just placed in front of it, I only needed a diamond pickaxe to relocate it in the hole of the Ruined Portal
What I really like is the fact that the Infinite Monkey Theorem applies to a lot of things in real life too. It's really bizzare and even quite unsettling! The Boltzmann brain is one of my favourite examples to this, it works on the same principle.
Man imagine endermen could move redstone and accidentally create a fully sentient structure with implanted memories... My fucking god you could be a minecraft world right now if they could. I mean, obv thats bogus, but just as boltzman brains in their classical sense, it would still hold up. If consciousness can be computationally created. We dont know that of course. Considerinf you can technically build any kind of computer in a large enough world, thats not even too unlikely. Jesus Your comment is my absolute favourite out of all of these here, because just as boltzman brains, this has both beautiful and horrifying implicit potential for the real world.
This video is incredibly cool :D One thing that might propose a problem is the path finding of snowgolems. Since they seem to walk towards any mobs they attack, I can't really image a possibility of the skeleton shooting the end crystals. Maybe if the snowgolem teleports to the end, then randomly pathfinds up the staircase and stands behind the end crystal, then for the skeleton to also randomly pathfind into the end and up the staircase and then for either of them to attack the other and shoot the end crystal. But I don't know if the pathfinding theoretically allows for them to do that. Thinking about it whilst I'm writing this, it probably is possible lmao. I absolutely love this video idea, keep up the great content!
This is an interesting thought experiment. I suspect because the random number generators aren't actually infinite, they loop back around eventually, that some of these situations aren't actually possible. Although, like the Collingwood conjecture it's likely almost impossible to prove that. Having said that, if the mobs get their own random number generators initialised at random intervals, that might be enough to overcome the finite nature of the rng itself. Regarding the ruined portal in lava... I know thats possible in bedrock, in fact I had a seed for 1.17 that you could fall through the void due to a ruined portal at the bottom of a mega ravine. I've got no idea about java, but I'm pretty sure there is an "air gap" rng roll which decides if it has that box of air around it.
the rng also doesn't have absolute influence on the mobs. some of their behavior is determined based on the environment, and so any time the environment is updated (even as simple as placing a block via enderman could do) they essentially would break free of that loop and be acting on new information. Not to mention that the rng would have to bring them perfectly back to where they started, or else that code would just be ran at a new and displaced location. its not going to be zombies walking in circles on a galactic timescale forever.
Watching my dog murder something is also entertaining its just a game well minecrafts more then that but ykwim it isn’t real so I destroy villages if there lucky I won’t kill them or there iron golem tho i should keep the iron goldm there
The fact that the odds of all the mentioned events happening in that one perfect sequence is so low makes this video so much more interesting. It's fun to think about.
Since these are pseudorandom numbers that power the mobs, they are cyclic, and it's very possible there is no seed that can have an RNG cycle leading to this. In fact, I'd say it is VERY likely for that to be the case.
@@schwingedeshaehersa seed is used for all random number generators in all computer applications. You're right that the world seed is not connected, but there's also a seed used to create random numbers from. It could be anything from the time and date to your favorite word :)
@@renakunisakiwell technically it wouldn't be possible since only a limited number of mobs can spawn in a limited radius around the player, and all mobs despawn after a very short amount of time or when the player gets far enough away. And that's without even mentioning render distance. So basically the game does need the player for things to happen.
Even cyclic rngs Will produce different results, for example the path of a mob can have a ciclic rng but when it cycles the starting position of the mob Will be different.
There's already sort of a mod that does that for trees: Dynamic Trees. Forests can spread if you configure them to do so. Mobs do already naturally die in a sense, if you consider despawning "death".
There are some ways in which this could all be more straightforward. As others have mentioned in the comments, there are other ways complete Nether Portals could be naturally formed and lightened. Similarly, there are other ways in which creatures could be become aggressive besides the unlikely snow golem + skeleton combination, most notably, iron golems. Also creepers, their charged counterparts, and iron golems would probably be better assets to the dragon fight than TNT. Anyway, all of this just adds to the fun of the thought experiment. Great video.
This actually reminds me a lot of the history of the universes and process of evolution. It started off as just a few particles and forces, but over the course of 13 billion years, chemical elements were created, stars and planets formed, single cell organisms were formed, and through natural selection, beings as complex as humans now exist, and over thousands of years of technological advancement, we now have computers and modern technology.
Literally the fourth line of the video "Even if the player does nothing, things happen in the world", It only applies if it is inside loaded Chunks, otherwise, nothing moves.
Yes, I understand that it is a hypothetical case where these things do not apply, but it was necessary to take into account that this would not really happen in normal situations.
Wacky things start when infinity is taken into equations. I wonder what the world would look like after a sufficiently long amount of time. Perhaps there would be some oscillations between order and disorder. Hopefully a mathematician who plays Minecraft will pick this up and do the calculations.
Realistically: An enderman will pick up blocks and spell out "SUB 2" and then before writing "RGN" it will screw up and write "ME" instead. The enderman doesn't need you.
For a while I've actually been wondering the question of what could happen to a Minecraft world given enough time. Thanks so much for making this video, I actually wondered that!
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Hey everyone! Thanks for checking out the video! Obviously, this is a thought experiment more than anything - there are many reasons that an infinite time world is clearly impossible. It's also pretty cool to hear from people who have more technical programming experience regarding RNG - that is an aspect that I didn't cover whatsoever. Nonetheless, I had a ton of fun thinking of crazy ways for things to happen - do you have any ideas I didn't mention?
Good Video!
You should ask IBM to use their quantum computer for a couple of hours to run this experiment.
this reminds me of Xeelee Sequence and similar works of fiction on unimaginable timescales. imagine the society of endermen working under tirelessly their limitations for billions of years to reach this goal.
If a wolf kills the fox with the elytra or the egg a zombie could pick them up.
Spawn chunks ruin everything. Sorry. The next step is to figure out how to load anything that isn't a spawn chunk (and fitting inside the default mobcap).
Also, after a bit of watching, there would be a lot more entropy to deal with, but I guess infinite time could set it up well enough.
Imagine making it to the end only to realize the enderman beat you to it already killing the dragon
@@melissaliechty2923 yes, it’s a joke.
@@melissaliechty2923 yes it can when the dragon comes down it hits endermen which then attack it till they die so if the dragon gets so many endermen after it that it can't healfast enough the enderman can kill it
Yeah, just some perfect RNG.
Not on bedrock edition he comes down but when the dragon comes down with all crystals you probably won’t kill it without breaking crystals also enderman cant hit it when it swoops down
@@melissaliechty2923 sometimes they are connected to the end island
I love how the Skeleton's sole job is to be bad at archery.
The stormtrooper of Minecraft
i don't know, the skeletons i encounter could rival the white death
@@acevant7535wither skeletons ate too many sweet rolls :(
@@bangchittybanghow do sweet rolls make you tall
@@sleepforever8378 ill b real i was high when i commented that idk what i meant
There is already a minecraft seed where the obby from a woodland mansion finishes a portal that can also light itself. That avoids this complicated mess but its fun to think about!
What’s the seed
Seed or fake
Unfortunately that seed better have a fully lit end portal as well, otherwise a large portion of the possibilities are gone
Source?
This didn't come up during our research, awesome find though
10:29 - At this moment, the phrase "the chances are low, but they're never zero" is being taken to a whole another level. There's not just one astronomically low chance, there's thousands of them, requiring to happen one by one.
Not to mention the "hundreds of endermen using overworld blocks, wandering into the end, and placing them just right to make stairs up to each and every one of the pillars (and, not mentioned: never having these staircases destroyed by the dragon along the way)"
astronomical number of astronomically low chances
11:00 three seeds have been found where a ruined portal generated below an obsidian room of the woodland mansion and is completed. Also the lava in the ruined portal can spread fire to nearby Blocks and thereby lighting the portal
Logic-Error with the Enderdragon
that leaves him undefeated: he would kill them QUICKER than the 'random chances' can happen.
Remember, we're talking about 'Infinity over Time', not 'Infinity at Once'.
No matter how much times passes, it will NEVER happen that such a massive amount of Mobs
as needed will be in the End at the same time.
Doesn't matter how many Enderman die, as long as 1 enderman can place 1 block before dying, 1000 enderman can build a staircase to the crystals, and once the crystals are all gone, it's only a matter of time.
Now we just need to find one of these seeds that lines up with a completed end portal seed
@@aaronking2020 except that the dragon flying aroud will remove blocks faster than the endermen could ever hope to build, also the dragon doen't attack endermen
Guys the enderdragon wouldn't shoot enderman
This isn’t a speed run, its a slow run. Or maybe theres no ‘run’ at all considering no player input. Just the natural forces of RNG spending eternity beating the enderdragon.
100
Hey the mobs are trying their best
It would be interesting to see a solid drawn animation based on this
Similar to "an object and rest"
Like a giant Minecraft Cosmos just creating and destroying the infinite worlds.
Imagine a stream of MC just playing itself
Edit You could code an AI that's learned to play it to work with one of those chat bots. And the chat bot will place signs to talk to the chat
Props to the cameraman for playing minecraft 40 trillion years in the future to record all of this happening
He's the true hero of this video 👏✊
not even close to the actual length of time required here
@@uncommonsense360 How can you be so sure? Chance is random after all, with no proof either way 40 trillion years, despite extremely unlikely is possible
@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 With an avarage luck this would take years that has billions of zeros in it. Getting that tnts to end will take so long. It is not gonna be done by only one enderman it is gonna be done by many many hundreds. Bc we need a lot of different mansions and they all are really far away from the end portal
@ But what if we substituted average luck for dream luck?
Could you imagine, playing solo you go through the whole process of getting eyes, armor, weapons, ect. Then you find the portal, and it’s completed. You go through it, there’s massive stair cases to the tops of the pillars, and the dragon is already dead.
lmfao, you see that and you will be asking for a refund
Imagine leaving your world running for a while then remember you left it afk but now there’s a hole to the portal and no dragon but giant craters and staircases in the end
HeRoBrInE!!1
@@3v7l ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@SquishyFerret he meant it was herobrine who did it (its obviously a joke lmao)
@@NguyenHuuTri2008 (I thought he was serious and having no clue about this video)
"for a while" in this context is the greatest understatement i have ever come across and prodably will in my life. whoops left my pc running for googolplex amounts of universe lifetimes.
Imagine spawing in a world, then getting distracted and ending up cryogenically freezing yourself for a thousand years, accidentally leaving your computer on the whole time. When you wake up, you realise you left it on and look at the screen and see a fox with an elytra in its mouth next to another fox with a dragon egg
Completely possible
Virtually Inconceivable
Whoever likes this comment, likes google+
@@professional-toe-stubber true
It's not possible in vanilla minecraft, end and nether wouldn't load without the player.
Mobs too far away from the player don't pathfind.
I wish there were a mod that give way more life and dynamic to the game: Trees grows and dies, biomes changes, animals migrates, villages and pillagers expand and vanish...
Heck, even the rain corrode the landscape.
Erode
whats the mod name please?
@@TheCollectiveHexagon doesn't exist
@@cthulhufhtagn7520 some of them do, for example, Dynamic Trees makes trees (and by extension forests) grow and die realistically over time. There are several mods which add seasons, but a favourite of mine is Serene Seasons. Different seasons have different weather, temperatures, rainfall, foliage, etc. As the seasons change, snow will fall and melt (even in biomes that wouldn't usually have any), leaves will flourish and wither, and the terrain will live and breathe with a life of it's own. As far as the villages go, I'm almost certain there are mods for that, but I don't know about animal migrations. Rain weathering the landscape might be insanely hard to find - it's the only one in this list that might not actually exist yet. But the rest of what you mention is actually possible!
@@innacrisis6991 i personally think that they should add erosion caused from rivers, ir maybe a winter season, where there's a lot of ice and snow, when summer comes, all that turns into water, causing floods, that would be very cool
Imagine stepping away from your computer for 40 trillion years and you come back and the game is beaten
Wouldn't work because a player needs to load chunks.
@@theairaccumulator7144 shhh its a joke
half this reply section aint getting the joke 😭
@@nescafeblend43I mean you ain't wrong
@@nescafeblend43 Now it's only 20%
15:15 It actually goes further! The fox could return to the overworld and be killed by a skeleton arrow, dropping the elytra, which could then be picked up and worn by a zombie!.
i once see a wolf killing fox :(
@@knox9739 That would work too
@@bigfennec what if it is right top of the ship
@@bigfennec He could get Levitation from a shulker.
Really? I had no idea zombies could wear elytra!
I feel like this would make a really cute kids book. An enderman, a skeleton, and a snow golem going on a journey to defeat the ender dragon
There’s a video about this by evbo, here : ruclips.net/video/VfnChCFIOrg/видео.html (glad to help :) )
I think there are kids Minecraft books on those
yeah
@@abrario Nice, That's a pretty endearing video.
I might write this into a book, That would be a good hobby this summer
I want a mod that makes the mobs actually try to do this intentionally
yes
That mod would be some hell of a work if somone ever does it
Saturday plans
And maybe speeds up the game. That would be really fun to spectate
I can only imagine how much the computer you ran it on would hate you...
Enderman: Builder (The Mastermind)
Fox: Item Transporter
Creeper: Miner
Skeleton: TNT Igniter
Snow Golem: Triggerer
Zombie: Ice bridge Builder
Zoglin: Far End Island Attacker
Player: Lazy
us: watching
Hotel: trivago
Other things that would eventually happen:
All forests would burn down by lightning/exposed lava lakes until there's no tree left in the world;
All villages with an active farmer and enough houses would be wiped out by zombie attacks;
Ghasts would move from the nether to all 3 dimensions, making the ender dragon battle easier if they get there before the dragon was defeated (I guess? not sure how they interact with mobs outside the nether);
And a funny thought: a world without a player is a world without Phantoms.
On the forests burning down, lightning can't spread fire very far (unless the random tick speed is very very high) due to lightning only happening during rain.
@@cognisentnt8613 yeah but if it rains an infinite amount of times then it will eventually happen
Would the world be covered with snow after snow golems eventually walking on every block?
@@Sietruc I don't think so... rain wipes snow out, right?
@@Sietruc no, pumpkins only spawn once per world gen and in a finite world that number is pitifully low
RGN took "The chances are low, But never zero" to a whole another level
U mean RNG
@@drialflame5047 His username is Retro Gaming Now so its RGN
Fun fact: zero chance still doesn't mean impossible
@@someedumbasss its a joke
@@gdavid wait how ?
This reminds me of a famous quote from a Brothers Grimm story:
“In Lower Pomerania is the Diamond Mountain, which is two miles and a half high, two miles and a half wide, and two miles and a half in depth; every hundred years a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on it, and when the whole mountain is worn away by this, then the first second of eternity will be over.”
Something similar in Buddhism, if we got a mountain 10 KM high, wide, and deep, and once every hundred years someone rubs a silk cloth on it's peak, once the entire mountain ceases to exist, an eon happened.
@@juanignacioc994 I was just thinking of the Buddhist story as well! Thanks for sharing!
You may think that's a hell of a long time. Personally, I think that's a hell of a bird.
@@cavedmanjim249 Ooooof, this hurts to read. Everything started so great, but then you implied that you're _certain_ you know there's an afterlife, despite their being quite literally zero evidence to support that hypothesis.
The truth is... you *don't* know where you'll be spending eternity (don't know why you capitalized it either), and neither I or anyone else knows either. I do hope you're right because that'd be pretty darn cool, but you probably aren't. In all likelihood, we're all going to spend eternity in the dirt. Eventually, maybe our original matter could be reincorporated into a new organism, and that's kinda neat to think about!
P.S. this is not what they meant by "spread the good word of god" 😂
(what you _do_ have is FAITH that you'll go to heaven. My point was that that is not the same as knowing because knowing requires evidence, while faith requires none. That's kinda the whole point... wouldn't be very difficult if you could point at the fossil record and go "no dude, look. Heaven exists, and here's the proof!", ya know? It would defeat the entire point of organized religion.. My second point is just that from a practical standpoint, you should stop doing this. It has the exact _opposite_ effect that you think it does. Seriously, go look into it)
@@paradox9551 I would NOT want to be they prey of the bird with the sharpest beak in the universe 😂
reminds me of the "library of babel" a story about an infinite library filled with books with completely random letters printed on them. Because it is infinite, it would somewhere contain any work of text you can imagine. Jacob Geller did a great video on it called the shape of infinity.
@@chrispy5249 Wtf, it's incredible. Ty for the discover ! I'm already playing with it
i also read it, fictions by Luis borges
Yeah I saw that on a Vsauce video, it's actually really intresting
It depends. If you say, you have completed random book, with random letters, it depends on the letters, as you can't build a book, that has a letter, that is not in that list
The catch is it will contain every possible book. So yes, it will contain, for example, an exact copy of the Bible. But it will also contain many, many variations that have a few typos.
But it goes further: for every possible name, there will be a version where all occurrences of Jesus are replaced with that name. There will be a version that's the exact same as the original but reversed. There will be one that's identical to the original except that it has the Bee Movie script inserted exactly 2/3 of the way through.
Imagine playing in a world and suddenly getting the "Free the End" achievement...
and then you realize that you're in singleplayer...
O.o
im not sure if you would get the achievement since you didn't directly kill the dragon but it maybe possible
I don't know if this happens in newer versions but in the PS3 version, when you're in Overworld, you can still hear the explosion when the Ender Dragon dies.
Only happens if you actually kill the dragon, yea. (Though if it's been killed you can still get it by re-summoning it with End Crystals)
@@Nyerguds how? I don’t think it’s possible to get the crystals
@@naturegirl1999 Eh? They can simply be crafted. Eye of Ender in the center, ghast tear below, and surround with glass.
I like too imagine this happens when a player fails hardcore minecraft
There's still a chance that my wolf won't be forever alone, stuck in an eternal hell in which every other mob ignores it leaving it there alone and in pain that its owner died.
hardy har har cant believe evbo stole that for his title of one of his videoes
@@WendigoRin or a enderman blew it up with tnt or killed it with sand or a creeper vs snow golem
Player: *dies trying to defeat the ender dragon*
Enderman: Fine i'll do it myself
@@kobax9999 Not really a "genius", I have always thought of this, along with a lot of other people. That is like saying that a cashier is a genius for creating the job, when there is literally so many cashiers.
The infinite monkey theorem states that with enough creeper, ALL of explodable blocks in minecraft can be exploded.
Every block is explodable, even bedrock i think
@@kalumW what.
@@kalumW how is bedrock explodable.
@@kalumW only with glitches, and it's neccesary for a player to be there to do it as it has complex redstone.
@@a26lolhart and endermans can't carry redstone
Imagine spawning in a world and seeing a fox with a elytra
Player in hardcore: fails to complete the game
Mobs: fine, I'll do myself
Mobs: ye just give us 4 billion endermans, a one in a trillion chance and 47 years
@@t34calliope I think it would be closer to something like 47 quintillion years
@@gan1 deciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadecilion years
It's now canon (to me) that on failed Hardcore worlds, the mobs beat the game and finish every project the player had in mind (as close as possible at least)
This is top teir
It'd be neat if someone did a TAS where they manually set RNG values each frame to get the mobs to do this
That was my Idea!
You can do it yourself you know, download loTAS mod, watch some tutorials, set yourself into spectator mode, and use “AI Manipulation” function. It’s a bit glitchy but it should work.
bruh that would perhaps be impossible, even in an automatic way digging through hundreds of possibilities per frame for several minutes if not hours could be unfeasable. But it would be cool if someone found a way to maniuplate rng and make this INSANE thing happen. You don't understand just how unlikely this is, doing it "naturally" would take 10 to the power of x minutes, but x itself would be a HUMONGOUS number and basically it would take fing forever.
Sounds like nice Low Percent for me)
@@luizcastro5246 You can actually modify some of the variables as they do take some memory in the ram.
I had a philosophical talk about this with my friend who was also into the game last year. I’m glad it’s getting recognition. Imagine if the Minecraft world simply existed as it did without the exerted will of one highly intelligent, undying being. One of our key points was that from the standpoint of the Minecraft world, it sees a player in the flesh as a humanoid, average height, blocky figure. But the truth is inside the mind of the player exists in a whole other dimension (the real world), and observes the Minecraft world omnipotently.
Love this comment
Speakin facs rn
me playing hardcore really disputes the "highly intelligent " and "undying" part
give bergson a read
This video, conceptually, is incredible, and I'm very glad I happened to find it. The idea of infinite Minecraft, or a game playing itself independent from any player is super intriguing; what kind of stories could happen in this kind of world? Would the mobs build their own structures? (What would they make, and why?) Would they explore the entire world together, or destroy it all? Imagine this is a hardcore world, and the player died a very long time ago. Life goes on in their absence, and the creatures put into motion their own world, more impressive than anything any player could ever imagine. Monuments and towers dedicated to nothing tower over the endless horizon, shrouding the sun, and everything that anybody thought was possible. Imagine a new player joins this world, somehow, someday, and they walk through this foreign place, and they realise there, in that moment, that Minecraft really doesn't need them. It just needs time.
Underrated comment
"It just needs time" ✍🔥
Try Dwarf Fortress! ;)
@tagar8332 What, 2 paragraphs?
@tagar8332 "Look at me, everyone! I'm bad at reading!"
This is on the level of being able to levitate in real life because the air molecules around you randomly acted in a certain way.
Or noclipping into something cuz the atoms dodged every single atom inside your body.
BACKROOMS REAL?!????!??!??!
@@BatuhanDere and escaping the backrooms because it generated the exit
@@BatuhanDere quantum teleportation is also a thing
it's really not. Brownian motion cannot just stop existing, period.
However a sequence of incredibly unlikely, but possible events will ALWAYS occur given enough time (ad infinitum).
For more information, look up Infinite monkey theorem
@@justADeni Yeah, it will. The question is, will there be anyone around to witness it.
Things that would realistically happen: evokers, vindicators, piglin brutes, turtles and possibly some more would certainly go extinct. Mostly by random accidents. Villages would eventually get blown up by creepers. Once the last bed is gone, the villagers are also dead.
The bad ending
this is set in an infinite world
@@22tfortnitevevo Yes, that's right.
Then another bacteria comes to earth and make new creatures.
Don't turtles spawn naturally? That might be bedrock only
It official everyone we’ve finally found something more statistically unlikely than dreams speed run luck
LOL
fax
actually dreams lucks bigger lol
as expected, some people took this reply seriously. guys im kidding dude. im just making fun of dream cause he has good “luck”
@@clauteletuby no.
no
"Gentlemen! We are going to obtain an elytra!"
"What's the plan?"
*takes a deep breath*
"just wait"
"...okay, will you tell us the plan now?"
"I already did."
@@renakunisaki omg
If the fox with the elytra then returns to the overworld and finds a sweet berry bush, it will take the berries and drop the elytra, which can be picked up by a zombie. I don't think it can use the elytra, but at least it equipped it.
I think they can use it only as a glider, though that may be a mod I saw.
Foxes can't return to the overworld. Gateways only generate above the ground and since Endermen can't manipulate any end block, making a stair to the gateway is impossible and foxes can't return to the central island. If a fox ends up in an end ship, there it will stay.
@@AgusSkywalker But what if the End Portal just so happens to generate on floor of the end ship, the fox could just walk back.
@@AgusSkywalker Perhaps they could get levitation from shulkers and fly in. The shulker would be shooting because of a baby zoglin also in the ship.
@@rz2374 Actually there are 3 shulkers on each End ship, and assuming the Zoglins somehow didn't kill the one on the ledge outside (Actually they'd just float and die of fall damage if they tried) the fox could actually float into the gateway again...
EDIT: Assuming that is that the seeking bullets of the shulkers somehow missed, or the fox jumped in the way of the zoglin and took the shot, I don't actually know if Shulkers would straight up target a fox
I love how at 1:46 all the sheep stay in pretty much the same spot through the timelapse while that one runs around them in circles like the world's on fire...
Don't know how I laughed seeing the chaotic sheep
its pretty weird since for some reason changing your gamemode to spectator mode somehow changes the way mobs behave
200th like!
Pretty sure it's a goat running around, but still pretty funny to see. xD
Made me laugh 🤣
there are two types of probabilities presented in the video,which I found interesting. Some things are guaranteed to happen after an infinite amount of time on any world, such as the builds the Endermen could make, but also the kind that is not guaranteed, such as the End Portal generating with all eyes of Ender.
Yes, there’s a subtlety there which I didn’t elaborate upon. I’m assuming that all things I need exist within a seed somewhere but it’s totally possible that there isn’t a seed like that
if the world is also infinitely large it should be possible to do it all on any random seed
@@HouseBricksDoor187 the world isn't technically infinite. It is limited by the interger limit, and can only be around 64,000,000^2 blocks squared.
@@random3250 im saying *if* the world was infinitely large
@@RetroGamingNow The main problem is though that mobs spawning does not happen at all when a player is not present. That kinda makes the whole premise fall apart, unfortunately.
12:39
Keyword: MOST
Endermen CAN pick up short flowers, which are flammable, meaning the endermen could make a path of grass then a path of flowers and have the flowers catch on fire themselves using lava or something, then the fire can perfectly spread to the portal lighting it in the same way you light portals on skyblock
Time could be infinite but there will be a time eventually when nothing will ever change or happen anymore, kinda like the universe's heat death theory, here's why:
Creepers will sometimes explode, given enough time, creepers will explode the whole world down to bedrock, but mobs can't spawn in bedrock so the whole world ends up dying essentially.
Im gonna call this the "Minecraft Entropy Death Theory"
It wouldn’t happen because explosions do not damage blocks in water, and even if endermen drain the entire ocean, there are going to be some water sources in caves or somewhere else which can’t be destroyed, say if they have obsidian over them
@@jamesgabor9284 Also, creepers can't destroy obsidian anyway
@@Tocaraca What could happen is that the main end island is reduced to nothing one block, preventing the crystals from ever being reached.
@@jamesgabor9284 Water prevents spawning as well, so while creepers couldn't reduce the whole world down to bedrock where nothing can spawn, essentially the same result will happen, but with bedrock plus blocks covered with water
I'm gonna be honest, I think this is one of the best Minecraft videos on RUclips. You totally undersold it with the title as well
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There is one issue with all this: random number generators in computers arent completely random. They do have faint patterns. You plot the outputs of a large no of random outputs onto a paper, you will see them.
I have no idea how this will effect mob movement, but it COULD make the specified sequence of events impossible.
Yes, I assumed totally random generation - something I should have mentioned in the vid. Nice catch.
simply put, monkies on a typewriter?
There have been people that have guessed the randomness of digital casino cranks and gotten money off of it
@@RetroGamingNow Totally random number generators would make seeds useless, or at least make them not generate the same world each time. On top of that, despite tending towards "normal" generation, if you actually used random numbers you could extrapolate what you talked about in the video to include the world generating in *extremely* weird ways.
Could is an important word to use. Maybe a mob cant climb all the way up a one block wide staircase, but if enough blocks are placed to make it more like a pyramid, then it could be possible. The variations in the world and the motions of the mobs (including colliding with each other) also lead to a high level of chaos, such that the pseudo random inputs will lead to nearly random behavior. Even with the rounding of values, I think it would be possible*.
"Wanna play Minecraft"
"Nah, Ill just go and exist, itll play itself"
That's insane, imagine a game defeating itself, by itself. Even without any player interaction. That's actually crazy.
dying of old age but for video games
It won’t. You have to be in the area for chunks to be active
@@carzybacon47 That's all I could think about throughout this video.
@@ChasishOnRUclips yea it’s kinda pointless
Wasn't there something like that in oblivion before Bethesda took it out?
"The world is a canvas, the blocks are the paint and the player is the artist." Bro u are such a good poet
I have said that exact quote as a kid before lol. I thought I was the original
And then somehow the paint can fall in just the right place to create the Mona Lisa.
I wouldn't go that far haha, but I appreciate it!
"The world is your canvas" is an incredibly old saying. Nothing about that phrasing was new, original, or impressive in any way.
I feel like there should be a story based on this
it's called the library of babel
same
There’s a video about this ruclips.net/video/VfnChCFIOrg/видео.html it’s pretty close to what happens
@@JasminUwU What's that
@@abrario wdym
This video is like when your OCD tries to convince you that stepping on more than ten cracks on the sidewalk will cause your family to die.
I used to play yogbox mod in 2012 or something... it had advanced villagers that actually updated the village themselves. They built new houses when they got the materials and if you befriended them, they would even build a house for you block by block. I was so amazed to see such advanced AI in 2012. What a great mod
the mod is millenaire
@@jessyhovington1587 it’s being updated above version 1.12.2 where it is today.
Wha- fireß- dihdjd.
Friends! ;-;
@@OCinneide nowadays I only have bedrock edition so I can't play :( I miss it
jk
*"These creatures require our absence to survive, not our help. And if we could only step aside and trust in nature, life will find a way."*
Jurassic world?
that's what she said
@@maybewinter John Hammond's speech in Jurassic park the lost world's end scene.
@@MigWith you mean Ian Malcom?
@banan no at the end of the post world Hammond makes this speech, using Ian’s famous quote.
This dude never runs out of theories and I love it
He never runs out of theories… like a bantha
@@Noobster15 Bruh
ruclips.net/video/tvRRvxl0UZE/видео.html
You Missed it
@@Noobster15 forced meme
Party because they have an entire discord server that pumps out like 10 a day. But, that doesn't exist, nah, totally not.
And let's not forget that at a point in time, endermen could pick up pretty much everything. It became a nightmare for builds, so it got changed to the current limitation.
Really makes me sad. :c
Enough randomly fired arrows could eventually kill an evoker, resulting in the dropping of a totem of undying, meaning zombies and foxes can hold this rare item. not to mention, a close enough cave next to the desert pyramid and a few explosions at just the right place could result in the tnt being near enough to the tnt under the pyramid to make other things a lot easier. Also iron golems spawn naturally in villages that are big enough, and naturally repopulate if there are enough beds and a farmer villager, meaning that an iron golem could technically wander to the end. When the dragon is close enough the golems will try to attack and while they're not successful most of the time they can still produce a small amount of damage here and there.
the tnt room could also generate in such a way where the structure is clipped by some cave generation in a way where the endermen could take it from below, or from the side if they cant take hanging blocks
This depends on having a lot of TNT, but TNT is barely a renewable block even with player input and certainly not without. Fortunately, *most* of the uses are in fact doable by creepers.
Or just with some really lucky odds
@@realtimestatic With things that are renewable without a player, you can say that with probability 1 they will eventually happen. It’s more likely the TNT-dependent things just never will because you’ll use it up first
@@danielrhouck well minecraft had infinity world generation so technically there is infinite tnt
@@scatmanhi7837 World border 30 million blocks out
@@danielrhouck my apologies i kind of forgot about them since i don't think I've ever actually made it to it in game
Endermen can only pick up blocks with the sides exposed, not the top. That's why you don't find random holes in the ground everywhere
Do all four sides need to be exposed? Or just some?
@@gamesgamesgamesgay4847 Just one side
so the enderman could make a path to a block they want, then get the block and fill the path back in@@James2210
I don't think this applies to bedrock, the outside of my base has 1 blocks holes everywhere and randomly placed grass blocks
Not to be that guy, but in most cases the thing with the portal being full will never happen😅
This means that this won’t happen in your world no matter how long you wait😊
I think in order for this to work, you can't just let one world run infinitely, you have to let infinite world generate and ran infinitely to produce these results
The part with the skeleton jockey makes me think of a scene where the spider giggles maniacally as it charges towards the end gateway, while the skeleton screams in terror, yelling "PUT ME DOWN! _PUT ME DOWN!"_
Lol 😂
🤣🤣🤣
"Sir you have been in a coma for several trillion years, fortunately you left your minecraft world open the whole time"
"Oh boy, can't wait to check on my favourite ender dragon, ocean monument, and elytra!"
HELL FOR YOU!
degradation: *Imma stop you right there. Your computer is now just rust*
Wow that's a meme format I haven't seen for a long time, thanks for reminding me it exists
More likely you just see random littered grass blocks everywhere covering up much terrain in a haphazard way.
Electric bill be like
3:10 I don't think they could actually built that. Endermen, like the player, have a certain reach where they can place or remove blocks, and that tower is too high. They would have to teleport on top of it, and then they wouldn't be able to place because they're standing in the space they want to put the block. If the pillar was two blocks wide it would be possible, but a one block pillar isn't.
unless they were to build a supporting structure around it, which was then deconstructed
They can make a staircase then remove the other blocks
Now this might really prove that endermans were humans before, and when their mind got imprisoned by the ender dragon, they still have the most basic things a player can do in their subconsciousness
Actually, it's astronomically more likely that all matter in the universe decays into nothingness before the mobs even have the chance to destroy their first end crystal.
Do you know what infinite means
@@remainprofane7732 of course I do. I'm just saying you can't run a computer for eternity, making the whole probability pointless.
that's kinda the point though
@@MrBruh-dv9fv actually, if we code the game in such a way that we can speed up time real high (like 1k Minecraft days in a milli second) and have the game run on a super quantum computer, is it possible in our universe lifespan?
@@angrywolfjr7164 well, it's also impossible because of two other factors. Minecraft is not truly random and there is no infinite TNT. If we removed those two factors then it should be possible on super ultra mega sped up time in one universe lifetime.
Endermen alone can actually build some of the "impossible" structures. Non-gravity blocks can be removed without the above ones falling down. Technically also possible in water with ludicrously better circumstances since endermen take damage and easily teleport if possible in a distance, but that's not guaranteed so ocean bridges could happen.
What about bridging over end void? Likely yes. TNT cannons are possible assuming a mob could survive that in water and skeletons fire flame arrows on enough TNTs, but that's a 1 way trip. But endermen can carry mushrooms and mycelium. And mushrooms grow (at least I think they can do it the end). That's a bit of horizontal distance, but the height limit blocks it early, if we assume it being canon (though it has changed with updates). TNT could blow up the red mushroom blocks in a very specific way (since they don't have a flat top like brown), but that would only about double the distance. Utilizing TNT cannons it could be also done from the other end, but ludicrously more time needed. ~1000 blocks to cross and about 100 blocks done. I can't think of a further solution rn but I do strongly believe there is a way.
However, if we don't strictly stay in the game, still having no player input, there's cosmic rays to worry about. If enough of them hit the computer in the right way, literally anything could be made happen in the game.
Yeah, it might make us apply mods that increase our blaze rod drops.
Very Cool! But wdym when you Said "Endermen can hold Mushrooms"?
@@nukl3argam3r38 they can pick up mushroom cap blocks and mushroom stalk blocks (from large mushrooms) iirc
@@thenoseguy underrated comment
@@nukl3argam3r38 He means they can hold mushrooms, like the crop, they can also pickup flowers for example, but mushrooms dont grow into mushroom trees without bonemeal however so I think the point is mute
Player: don't want to beat the game
The game: fine i'll do it myself
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@@MikeyGamer-vy2ir Agreed!
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Only three replies!?! Fixed.
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OG Endermen used to actually be programmed to build makeshift structures and not just random placements.
That's so awesome I wish they still did that 😭
I thought i dreamt that 😳
source?
@@tfwnoyandereit was showed to him in a dream.
@@Cr1tical5tr1ke the well known cheater Dream?
The fact that this is technically possible is genuinely insane.
Insane!?
@@mundaner-1163 Insane!
@@jamesjesus1828 😲🤯
I could like imagine someone trying to get into the end portal and getting confused because of the end portal being completed.
It can actually happen, its really rare but some seeds have already completed portals
That’s a one in a 1 in a 1,000,000,000 chance and that’s not an exaggeration
@@t34calliope 1 in 1t not 1 in 1b so another 1000 times rarer
there wouldnt be the sound, as the sound is played when you activate a portal, but the seeds with activated portals area lready activated
piropito then just ignores the end portal entirely cause he thinks its some random room with strange blocks he cant break
i feel like the heat death of the universe could occurs a quadrillion times over before any of this just happens by chance, that's how low the chances of this are, interesting story nonetheless tho
The moment they deafeat the ender dragon that Karen's no longer exists
Given an infinite amount of time anything that can happen will happen an infinite amount of times
I'd argue that the chances are even lower than that. I feel like to make it comparable the universe would have to have its heat death occur a quadrillion times and in each of those universes my dad comes home with the milk.
it could also happen exactly tomorrow. Random statistics are interesting because while the chances are close to zero, there is still a chance of it happening any time.
@@bigbangzebraman351 No, it couldn't because it isn't possible for a minecraft world to have every chunk loaded at once.
I know my hardcore world is getting old when I start finding caves full of sand, gravel, grass etc. I find it funny and it makes the world feel more alive
"The world is a canvas, the blocks are the paint, and the player is the artist'' -RetroGamingNow
Autist*
Such a beautiful quote from RetroGamingNow
@@blakethesnake6686 perhaps
Well apparently the endermen and skeletons and snowgolems are also artists
😊
A naturaly generated nether portal happens also when a portal type 6 (1 block missing) spawns directly under a mansion obsidian structure.
Lava from ruined portal burns down the mansion and light up the portal.
Is there a seed out there where this happens?
@@PretzelSageyes but i dont have thw seed
5:21 Endermen can also pick up TNT from desert pyramids if a cave exposes it.
Yeah
That can generate?! Seed?
@@Inspirator_AG112
I haven't actually found any yet, but it's possible, as in seed *-7155247851033793149* at coords *-1173 65 -869* there is a desert temple that, when loaded in from the east, collides with an underground lava pool which cuts off part of the TNT (and unfortunately hides it under a new layer of stone) and replaces the sandstone under the pressure plate with air.
Endermen could make an iron farm, All they need is 5 beds to generate close enough to each other, 5 villagers to claim and sleep in those beds, enough leaves around the villagers to limit golem spawning, a platform for the golems to spawn on, and a lava pit to kill the iron golems. They wouldn't be able to put it in a chest, but foxes could get iron in their mouths from a machine that spawns and kills golems.
thats not possible
aaahhh noice
i agree that most of things in this vid are impossible
Allays
@@firkejdjneii28283 5 beds can spawn close in a village, leading to them being claimed. They can't pick up leaves, and I'm not seeing any spawn-proof blocks in the list they can grab. You're correct, sir
Nah I once watched an enderman snowman jockey and Fox do it all in under 10 minutes.
Woulda been world record but they accidentally left some mods on :(
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I love how this is just talking about what's possible it's crazy to see the extent of what can be done
Man this guy was Dream's inspiration. "If all of this could happen then a slight improvement to RNG wouldn't hurt!"
The MPV of this is the Enderman, if the Enderman ever got smart enough and wanted to save their fellow Enderman from the End, they could do it.
Most player valuable haha
Well, even though you can have infinite amount of time, you don't have infinite amount of pumpkins and TNT, therefore not everything is probable. For example the thing with liting portal by TNT probably won't happen even after infinite amount of time, because there is only so many TNT blocks in the finite (although extremely big) Minecraft world
then they can use snowmen and charged creepers. the tnt was just convenience
actually i looked it up it said 2.25 million mansions per world, and the room generates rarely, so im assuming theres 2000 woodland mansions with this room, so 4000 tnt, which is plenty for this video's purposes
@@GulibleKarma20 i forgor💀
@@GulibleKarma20 there are 2 TNT per room so 4000
That unfortunately, is true. Even if we have infinite time, the resources of the world are still finite, enclosed within a border. If only there was no border, this improbable assortment of scenarios would not require a specific seed and could be truly be executed in any natural world with absolute surety
Seems like something that would "luckily" happen in Dream's speedrun.
11:14 Some time ago i had a world which had a Ruined Portal with 1 missing obisidian block. That obsidian block was just placed in front of it, I only needed a diamond pickaxe to relocate it in the hole of the Ruined Portal
i love how the sheeps are casually just spinning in one place
What I really like is the fact that the Infinite Monkey Theorem applies to a lot of things in real life too. It's really bizzare and even quite unsettling! The Boltzmann brain is one of my favourite examples to this, it works on the same principle.
Man imagine endermen could move redstone and accidentally create a fully sentient structure with implanted memories... My fucking god you could be a minecraft world right now if they could.
I mean, obv thats bogus, but just as boltzman brains in their classical sense, it would still hold up. If consciousness can be computationally created. We dont know that of course.
Considerinf you can technically build any kind of computer in a large enough world, thats not even too unlikely. Jesus
Your comment is my absolute favourite out of all of these here, because just as boltzman brains, this has both beautiful and horrifying implicit potential for the real world.
This video is incredibly cool :D
One thing that might propose a problem is the path finding of snowgolems. Since they seem to walk towards any mobs they attack, I can't really image a possibility of the skeleton shooting the end crystals. Maybe if the snowgolem teleports to the end, then randomly pathfinds up the staircase and stands behind the end crystal, then for the skeleton to also randomly pathfind into the end and up the staircase and then for either of them to attack the other and shoot the end crystal. But I don't know if the pathfinding theoretically allows for them to do that. Thinking about it whilst I'm writing this, it probably is possible lmao. I absolutely love this video idea, keep up the great content!
I think if you had infinite time, it would be inevitable
@@torenchao Infinite time does not guarantee infinite possibilities. That's a very common misconception.
Imagine an enderman just blowing up your house then beating the game for you
This is an interesting thought experiment. I suspect because the random number generators aren't actually infinite, they loop back around eventually, that some of these situations aren't actually possible. Although, like the Collingwood conjecture it's likely almost impossible to prove that. Having said that, if the mobs get their own random number generators initialised at random intervals, that might be enough to overcome the finite nature of the rng itself.
Regarding the ruined portal in lava... I know thats possible in bedrock, in fact I had a seed for 1.17 that you could fall through the void due to a ruined portal at the bottom of a mega ravine. I've got no idea about java, but I'm pretty sure there is an "air gap" rng roll which decides if it has that box of air around it.
you mean collatz conjecture?
@@SkylarsTerribleMemes Actually yes you are quite right I've got no idea where I got Collingwood from.
the rng also doesn't have absolute influence on the mobs. some of their behavior is determined based on the environment, and so any time the environment is updated (even as simple as placing a block via enderman could do) they essentially would break free of that loop and be acting on new information. Not to mention that the rng would have to bring them perfectly back to where they started, or else that code would just be ran at a new and displaced location. its not going to be zombies walking in circles on a galactic timescale forever.
"Mobs moving around isn't interesting"
you're wrong, watching a chicken walk around for a little bit is very entertaining because chickens are cute
indeed
Watching my dog murder something is also entertaining its just a game well minecrafts more then that but ykwim it isn’t real so I destroy villages if there lucky I won’t kill them or there iron golem tho i should keep the iron goldm there
@@tamplushboy8452 wise
@@johndoesstuff352 indeed my nigga
@@tamplushboy8452 Lmao
The fact that the odds of all the mentioned events happening in that one perfect sequence is so low makes this video so much more interesting. It's fun to think about.
Since these are pseudorandom numbers that power the mobs, they are cyclic, and it's very possible there is no seed that can have an RNG cycle leading to this. In fact, I'd say it is VERY likely for that to be the case.
I don't think that the rng cycle is connected with the seed
@@schwingedeshaehersa seed is used for all random number generators in all computer applications. You're right that the world seed is not connected, but there's also a seed used to create random numbers from. It could be anything from the time and date to your favorite word :)
You'd need to use a mod that replaces the RNG with truly random input from a hardware RNG. Then it would technically be possible.
@@renakunisakiwell technically it wouldn't be possible since only a limited number of mobs can spawn in a limited radius around the player, and all mobs despawn after a very short amount of time or when the player gets far enough away. And that's without even mentioning render distance. So basically the game does need the player for things to happen.
Even cyclic rngs Will produce different results, for example the path of a mob can have a ciclic rng but when it cycles the starting position of the mob Will be different.
Imagine a mod where it allows plants or mobs to naturally grow and die.
That would be sick if trees could drop saplings and they would auto plant
There's already sort of a mod that does that for trees: Dynamic Trees. Forests can spread if you configure them to do so.
Mobs do already naturally die in a sense, if you consider despawning "death".
Regrowth mod does make some mobs do more than just pathfinding.
this makes me think of a story where the plot keeps happening by accident.
Like buggy from one piece to be honest.
Only way to create that would be roll a dice where 1 is you get super unlucky and 20 is insane luck
Like the Star Wars sequels!
@@josephstalin2829 JJ Abrams took inspiration from Minecraft in writing the third movie, change my mind.
There are some ways in which this could all be more straightforward. As others have mentioned in the comments, there are other ways complete Nether Portals could be naturally formed and lightened. Similarly, there are other ways in which creatures could be become aggressive besides the unlikely snow golem + skeleton combination, most notably, iron golems. Also creepers, their charged counterparts, and iron golems would probably be better assets to the dragon fight than TNT.
Anyway, all of this just adds to the fun of the thought experiment. Great video.
wouldn't there be limited woodland mansions, hence limited tnt the endermen can pick up, generated within the world border?
I always thought that the Minecraft world with enough time, and a good rng was powerfull enough to make changes but not to this extreme. Great video!
Retro is becoming the Game Theorist without humor....
*I LOVE IT*
matpat always neglects the points which are not in his favour, just wants to make a spicy theory for views rather than trying to find the actual truth
You telling me that "blows the door of possibilities wide open" after talking about TNT isn't humour?
@@npc4416 not really more of his newer theories he does look at plot points
@@AstralShot cope
@@polyphorge6621 ??
This actually reminds me a lot of the history of the universes and process of evolution. It started off as just a few particles and forces, but over the course of 13 billion years, chemical elements were created, stars and planets formed, single cell organisms were formed, and through natural selection, beings as complex as humans now exist, and over thousands of years of technological advancement, we now have computers and modern technology.
That's deep
But thats only a theory numerous brilliant minds the planet can offer thought up.
@@firkejdjneii28283 A game theory
@@ajblackjack "science theory"
@@aadarshroy3216 your boring the endermen are game theory!!
Literally the fourth line of the video "Even if the player does nothing, things happen in the world", It only applies if it is inside loaded Chunks, otherwise, nothing moves.
Yes, I understand that it is a hypothetical case where these things do not apply, but it was necessary to take into account that this would not really happen in normal situations.
"Minecraft doesn't need you"
Minecraft: looses 1/3 of it's players
Retro: *I'ma pretend I didn't see that*
What
Thats quite a lose description of the playerbase
I dislike endermen for this very reason. always messing up my landscapes without my intervention.
Dont u dare steal memes or i will send an army of endermen to your world to ruin your landscape
the are mods online that remove that, hermitcraft has it
why
Just put the block back, lololol
@@ezzybean__ but it disables a bunch of other things too, that is the problem
Wacky things start when infinity is taken into equations. I wonder what the world would look like after a sufficiently long amount of time. Perhaps there would be some oscillations between order and disorder.
Hopefully a mathematician who plays Minecraft will pick this up and do the calculations.
can't wait to see a "I drained an ocean monument" video uploaded by an enderman in billions of years
Realistically: An enderman will pick up blocks and spell out "SUB 2" and then before writing "RGN" it will screw up and write "ME" instead.
The enderman doesn't need you.
realistically: there will be so many misplaced blocks that it'll look like an alternate farlands
The chances are low,
B U T N E V E R Z E R O .
So we can expect a certain " "speedrunner" " to pull together a clip of this happening soon?
dweam 😍😍😍
@@user-qw9yf6zs9t Oh look, a Stan 😐
@@Starfeather_19 oh look, a ten year old who doesn’t understand ironic humour
@@Starfeather_19 oh look, this ratio
@@mementomori1553 sorry, I have been destroyed by Dream Stans for not being obsessed with Dream.
For a while I've actually been wondering the question of what could happen to a Minecraft world given enough time. Thanks so much for making this video, I actually wondered that!
That could be an interesting RTS game. You have to use these mobs's quirks to clear the game.
Funny, now a Minecraft RTS-like game is coming out lol
Haha