In the R2-D2 Builders club, we love the big ones because a 500x500mm bed can print a full dome in one shot. Takes a few days, but it's nice to save a few hundred bucks!
You are doing the work like a pro. It is so refreshing to see proper cable management, proper heatshrinking, proper energy chain... And a proper control board! 👍 The only thing which I don't like, it is the XZ/Y arrangement. This is a major performance limit. For these sizes the speed is cruical, and an XY system with Z bed could be a magnitude faster.
This is fantastic! Congratulations! However... please tell me that isn't Capricorn Tubing! If it is, if I send you a cheap PTFE tube and pay for your shipment, could you send me that piece of tube? Since this isn't bowden, Capricorn is actually a bad idea, since it has a smaller inner diameter and will likely cause extra effort on the extruder if the filament is slightly larger than the specification.
It only took six hours mainly because it was only an 8% infill, so the structural integrity is probably quite weak. However, if he had done say, 100% infill for maximum strength on his oversized wrench, it probably would have taken upwards of 72 hours...
@@arctic_angel7408 Yeah, its rigidity would increase and depend on the exact type of PLA used, it may be brittle or very strong. Not sure... but my point was the reason it was so quick was partly that he had such a small infill.
man if you sold this i would so buy one. seriously, there is nothing for a reasonable price at this size on the market, even if you sold it as a kit with instructions
same here, i want a 3d printer capable of printing large objects, (i make waterwheels as a hobby) but the printers are firstoff priced stupid for the sizes they can print, i mean tecnically a ender 3 is not that different from what you have made here, but yours can print large nice things, ender can make fist size items. the prices for large printers are not logical. this if sold for 600 dollars , it would sell. easy. plz print a chair.
@@strictnonconformist7369 true, but a printer like this doesnt need most of the stuff he printed and parts plus an Ender 3 printer/filament are about $650ish...but to buy another 3D printer this big would be ~$1500 im sure!
Funny that I saw this, I am thinking about buying an ender 3 pro and modding it to be bigger for cosplay xD I was searching for 'how to upgrade " videos
My thoughts in tandem with watching: 1. LOOK AT THIS ABSOLUTE UNIT 2. That's a really neat way of supporting the cables/filament guide 3. That poor mirror 😱 4. Absolute. Unit. 5. It printed that in HOW long?! 6. ...I want one...
yes, a spanish guitar, but it would sound weird in plastic (maybe using a wood composite or with a metal 3d printer), also the strings you cant print them.
He could do an ukulele in one go. People already did it and they said it sounds better than many you buy in stores (there are factory made ukes that are really really shitty)
Here’s an educated guess based on the most expensive components: (with VAT) -Herema direct drive (£108) -SuperVilcano Hot end (£96) -Duet2 wifi and Duex5 (~£200-£240) -24V power supply (£50) -6 stepper motors (~£60) -1x1m heated bed (~£120?) -Aluminium sheet (~£66) -Gears (~£10) -6m of belts (~£16) -Filament for printed parts (~£25?) -Aluminium extrusions (~£90?) So maybe ~£885? I would certainly set myself a £1000 budget if I did this but you could go for a cheaper setup using cheaper parts from an ender 3 like the power supply, hot-end, computer, etc. edit: changed price of aluminium
MATER DOIT lol I was assuming someone brave enough to try and build such a big one would already have a “small” one. But sure, add £150 for an ender 3 👍🏻
you got a hermes and a supervolcano, time to print BIG and FAST! see how fast the big printer can go without quality loss, would be very interesting (maybe 80mm/s with those thick lines? not bad)
@@matutolaYT That was my thought. X would do fine, but that's a LOT of glass and aluminum to swing around. Bed Thrash is gonna be an issue, which means severe ghosting on vertical surfaces, gaps, and it could even knock over prints.
@@Corbald there is a reason why industry spends millions in shaving grams out of 3d printer systems just to get 10mm faster, because it can be 12hours faster in a 3D print.
Very nicely done. Usually for printers this big will cost 10k plus or higher. You may want to consider using a closed loop stepper to prevent step loss and also resume print on specific layers for print fails or resume due to power loss. But overall excellent work
Give him a year or two and the begining of video will sound something like this: *"Hey guys! As you can see I sacrificed this entire room to make even larger 3d printer. The truck with red filament spool is on it's way so in this video we only run a 2 by 2 meters callibration cube"*
It is 2023, the fifth printer has finally finished the printing the rocket. The rocket will be used to build the first zero G 3d printer in orbit. Without the pull of gravity, there is no limit to how big the glass plate can be. Sights can now be set even higher...the moon.
Hey! I have a legitimate question! I want to get into 3D printing mechanisms, but I'm really bad at taking measurements! I'm looking into simple robotics, like helicopters and arms etc, and I need a lot of precise parts. Currently my skillset is "upload a model into Cura and cut it" but I want to get into making custom pieces. What process do you do to take measurements IRL? I have a multimeter and caliper, but I'm having a hard time translating that into 3D imagry software. If you can't help, it's honestly no big deal! I'd love a response either way if you (or anyone) see's this!
Amazing build Ivan. Any chance you could do a video detailing your design process? I'm interested in building my own large format 3D printer as well as a CNC router and would love to learn about the considerations you had while designing this one! GREAT WORK!
I cannot stop violently dancing to the music in the beginning. It just won't stop playing, and I am very tired. I need to go to sleep. Please let me stop dancing. This is going on for much longer than I anticipated. This might cause permanent muscle and joint damage if I don't stop. The music is still going. Somebody help. My feet are going numb and I'm about to pass out
Hey, Would you mind sharing the Plans for the whole Build ? I'd really like to build one in this size and your Build seems very good to build and I also like the Design with the Extrusion Profiles.
@@iKn-ft2bc Well I did them. Someway at least.... I wrote this comment during the Video at a point where he was just explaining the Printer. Later on he said that the Plans are on his site so I guess that's enough for me
@@phillipthomas357 The metal parts you can work out sorta easily, it is if it needs custom coding to operate that I would be stuck on. That being said having measurements for the aluminum parts would make it way easier.
My thoughts on this: 1) Congrats on the custom build! It looks really nice! 2) If you decide to build another printer, consider making one that moves the bed in the Z-axis. It will require less speed, making for lower vibration, and you can actually print precision parts *fast*. Right now, you are using a large nozzle size with, I suppose, a large layer hight? That will work, for large parts, but will leave *heavy* ringing and issues when it comes to the y-axis. The bed's mass vs the belts is both going to wear it out really quickly, but also impact the prints. 3) You *need* an auto leveling system for that printsize with that budget bed. Mirrors are nice, but as you noticed, don't take thermal stress very well. Any bed surface you build with that size is going to have some sort of warping, or at least develop it over time. I would recommend a genuine bltouch. It actually probes the bed with a little stick, and has incredibly high accuracy. You usually combine it with manual leveling. (you can add four macros, each for one corner, and it will move to that place, probe, and give you the result in the log. so you can screw each leveling screw to absolute perfection, and check it out).
Me at 11:30pm eating cereal in the kitchen, chilling to some montage music: Him: TAKE TWO ME: HOLY SHIT I WOKE MY STEP DAD UP AND HE'S BEHI... Holy crap dude. Scared the bejesus out of me. That was most I've jumped in a looooooonnnngggggg time lol
This might sound dumb, but how does one just build a 3D printer? Like, software-wise? If I took apart my ender 3 and made it this big, how would the printer know how big it is, etc.. Is this something an average maker could do, or do you need to understand coding and advanced electronics? Could a person like me build one, with no coding or electronics training but I’ve assembled and modded a 3D printer with plug and play parts and built a few basic projects including LEDs and whatnot. I’d really love to give something like this a try, but couldn’t afford to sink time and money into something I couldn’t ever finish....
@@ivanmirandawastaken I didn't even specify, I know so little about it and it wasn't specified. I'm just thinking it should NOT cost 8K to print something like your tank. Do you? Thinking I should higher someone like you to print it.
For that size a CoreXY is double the price. It requires much more extruded aluminum and a frame really stiff to support the belts and pulleys maybe he can move the X gantry instead of the bed to make it "lighter" when you are printing something big and you added 6KG of filament over the bed.... but I don't think the problem is the speed For big prints you usually use big nozzles and high layer heights... the extruder and hotend have limits, so you only print at like 80mm/s, for this setup it's not a problem. The real problem is the quality. You can see the frame shaking, and for that bed you cant use high acceleration and jerks... and with this system you use 1 motor per axis... With Corexy you won't print quicker because you are limited by the hotend but you can use 200-300+ travel speed and better quality and acceleration, and it's less likely to lose steps in an axis, because the two motors move the gantry at the same time and the system always weights the same
Hi, awesome printer, almost as big as my bedroom and puts my prusa to shame, just one question from a design point of view, have you thought about using wider gt2 belts, would there be any improvement in doing so? Not really clued up on printers of this size but I know you can get 12mm width belts which are a fair bit stiffer :)
Dang man how do you get it to stick so perfect on the mirror?? I have a CR-10, and have been using the stock glass bed with glue stick for months, but I hated the rough marks it left. I loved the PEI sheet on my other printer, stuck SO well and so smooth, but for a 12x12 inch of it it’s $20 which I don’t want to pay lol. I went out to get a glass bed yesterday, to hopefully avoid tape, glue, and hairspray, but man it doesn’t stick any better than bare glass. Any suggestions??
@@ivanmirandawastaken that is EXACTLY what i needed. Thank you so much. I cant wait to try this as soon as my 10 hr print (on a taped mirror :) ) finishes.
@@ivanmirandawastaken i washed it 3 times, and in the 3rd wash i finally was able to print a benchy, but there was horrible warping im surprised it didnt fall off. Is there anything else you can suggest? Do you think really fine sandpaper could help? I dont know what else to try. PEI works fine on my other smaller printer, i know how to level the bed correctly, its not warped because its a mirror, i just dunno
This is a great build, Ivan! I have my own giant printer build in my garage (600x900mm) that is based off of the MPCNC platform. Decided to give up on the self leveling bed aspect (BL Touch sensor) after fighting Marlin for 2 months and will try out your leveling feet instead for the bed now. Thanks for the inspiration.
No, it looks like a part of 3M but i cant find it. I have a big MPCNC printer and it would be nice if your could tell us where the heater can be bourght. Have you a part number?
This may be a stupid or uninformed question, which is why im asking it, but why do all the diy printers use a glass/mirror for the bed? Why not go with something along the lines of the prusa with a spring steel bed on a magnetic heated surface. Or even just a textured spring steel surface that is clipped to your heated surface?
A mirror can be bought anywhere with the exact dimensions of your machine. The other solutions you mention require dedicated industrial processes not easily available
Add dro lines to all axis so you can achieve sub .01 mm resolution. Then build yourself a cnc router, and make all the brackets out of metal. You will become unstoppable and all your enemies shall piss on themselves out of fear, and respect
Wow! You did it! It works, and works very well. I was wrong in my assessments about stability and quality at that size. That’s an excellent quality print! Very well done!! You deserve to be proud of your engineering and design skills. Thank you for showing us how to build the mother of all 3D printers! 😊👍🏻
Hi Ivan, I am a rookie at 3d printing. I loved the Idea of your big printer so I bought both the boards you bought for your printer and I'm sure I have everything connected correctly. I even got onto the web control board but I do not know how to properly configure the motors or the end stops. I need step by step on how to make this happen or for some one to actually come an help me because I am unable to home everything. The other thing that you should know is that I bought the quad fusion extruder head so that I could mix colors. I have been at this for some time and gave up for awhile but I have spent to much time and money to give up. The things you have built are crazy cool and I would love to get things going. PLEASE HELP ME.
Stunning. This is absolutely, ridiculously majestic! Not that I have now space to keep it or a reason to build it, but I definitely would! Awesome work, Ivan!
Two days ago i was telling to my friend: "i think cartesian system will have a limit in size" I think i'll give him a call, and tell him that i was wrong
The cartesian system does not have an upper limit on size. In a practical sense, this general design with a moving bed (not vertically-moving) certainly does, and it appears he’s pushing that limit pretty darn hard. Imagine having to move that thing!
I'M A NEWBIE IN THE 3D PRINTING WORLD AND TO SEE YOU CREATE SUCH AN AMAZING ENORMOUS 3D PRINTER IS SO BEAUTIFUL. I WISH IT COULD BE AS EASY AS YOU MADE IT LOOK MAKING THE PRINTER.
Hey Ivan ! Great videos, ive seen almost all twice ! I am gearing up for a printer build and am curious which style Z you prefer. Your first big build used the bed for Z axis. The second big build was like a giant prusa with the Z moving extruder. Any pros, cons, or thoughts here ?? Thanks for your time !
That “WOO HOOO!” scared the shit out of me. Oh my god. Fuck. I’m wearing headphones and it sounded like it was behind me to my left and super loud... Jesus. My heart still hurts... goddamn.
is there a reason you used the Duex board? Im wondering because you have a single X, a single Y , and Dual Z with a single E axis, all of which can be done by a single Duet Board, why the Duex expansion board?
Man if you made a kit for this would be great, love your enthusiasm fantastic vid, I went to the USA and looked at the pbc linear 3d printers 1200x1200 but were $60'000 I now have a Creality cr10-max build them and they will buy them.thanks David NZ
I wasn't sure why anyone would need a printer this big, but then I realized it's needed to print parts for an even bigger printer.
It's needed to print parts for even bigger tank :D
Imagine if you had a 3d printer as big as a skyscraper
Hahahah
@@GIAGreenFire better have a huge ass nozzle for it. With a .4mm nozzle it would take a lifetime to print anything.
In the R2-D2 Builders club, we love the big ones because a 500x500mm bed can print a full dome in one shot. Takes a few days, but it's nice to save a few hundred bucks!
You are doing the work like a pro. It is so refreshing to see proper cable management, proper heatshrinking, proper energy chain... And a proper control board! 👍
The only thing which I don't like, it is the XZ/Y arrangement. This is a major performance limit. For these sizes the speed is cruical, and an XY system with Z bed could be a magnitude faster.
No te había visto nunca y cuando te he visto hablar me he dado cuenta q eras español, al instante. Muy buen video
You never cease to impress! Keep up the great work, love your channel 👌🏼
You are the master my friend great job!
you should make a printer that prints 1000X1000X1000MM :D
Almost
I made your mistake as well once and I used the glass in the heat bed and the glass broke! Have you used two stepper motors on the X-axis or one?
Where did you source the extra large heating pad for the bed?
Next video-making a thermal camera for it
How much would you sell the printer for, if you did?
you can print car parts, like bumper, i like it
This is fantastic! Congratulations! However... please tell me that isn't Capricorn Tubing! If it is, if I send you a cheap PTFE tube and pay for your shipment, could you send me that piece of tube? Since this isn't bowden, Capricorn is actually a bad idea, since it has a smaller inner diameter and will likely cause extra effort on the extruder if the filament is slightly larger than the specification.
How much did this cost you?
That could make a pretty large benchy
Who ever sells you red filament is a very happy person.
He is sponsored. They supply all his filament and even have it branded for him.
@@nathanrogers8713 which brand ?
@@trollenz Mirandament made by AprintaPro. AprintaPro is his filament sponsor.
I like your humor!
Yes indead, but he should print a filament extruder now :)
"What do you use your 3D printer for?”
"Printing even bigger 3D printers"
"Why did you build a bigger 3D printer?"
"Dunno. The last 3D printer told me to do it."
@@ToothbrushMan imagince the next generation!!!
if you are making customized cars big printer will save u tons of time and money..just design and print instead of the shitty clay model.
lmbo
of course his main goal is to someday print a real life FERRARI! can't your notice his italian accent?
i was so surprised when that wrench only took 6 hours wtf
indeed
Arctic_Fur to get prefect wrench.
It only took six hours mainly because it was only an 8% infill, so the structural integrity is probably quite weak. However, if he had done say, 100% infill for maximum strength on his oversized wrench, it probably would have taken upwards of 72 hours...
@@rubenzikarsky2496 too much infill would make it less flexible
@@arctic_angel7408 Yeah, its rigidity would increase and depend on the exact type of PLA used, it may be brittle or very strong. Not sure... but my point was the reason it was so quick was partly that he had such a small infill.
-Good morning, I would like to order some filament
-Sure, how much would you like?
-Yes
Give me the red 👀
@@BroadHobbyProjects okay
man if you sold this i would so buy one. seriously, there is nothing for a reasonable price at this size on the market, even if you sold it as a kit with instructions
same here, i want a 3d printer capable of printing large objects, (i make waterwheels as a hobby) but the printers are firstoff priced stupid for the sizes they can print, i mean tecnically a ender 3 is not that different from what you have made here, but yours can print large nice things, ender can make fist size items. the prices for large printers are not logical. this if sold for 600 dollars , it would sell. easy.
plz print a chair.
@@magnetmannenbannanen I’d wager this costs more than $600 for parts alone, not counting part printing time or anything else.
@@strictnonconformist7369 true, but a printer like this doesnt need most of the stuff he printed and parts plus an Ender 3 printer/filament are about $650ish...but to buy another 3D printer this big would be ~$1500 im sure!
Imagine the giant Lego we could print 😬
Mwahah mwahahahah mwahahahahaha (it's on)
Yeasssss!!
imagine tripping over that lego at night :)
I was going to say don’t give him ideas. He is going to build a house. Well, too late :-)
Lego shoes (;. If you step on lego it wil only make you bigger and stronger
This would make cosplay armor printing a breeze.
LuxIsBored althogh probobly to expesive but worth it when you do a business that is not to overpriced
IcedElectric was the day you get that one day off to manufacture android apps for the new updated version please
Aesia Quarles *w h a t*
Printing Iron Man would be easier with this. Haha
Funny that I saw this, I am thinking about buying an ender 3 pro and modding it to be bigger for cosplay xD I was searching for 'how to upgrade " videos
I was going to print a Santa for the family, but I can’t find red filament anywhere....
This guy have it =)
he used all of it
the red wrench took the remaining red in the world.
My thoughts in tandem with watching:
1. LOOK AT THIS ABSOLUTE UNIT
2. That's a really neat way of supporting the cables/filament guide
3. That poor mirror 😱
4. Absolute. Unit.
5. It printed that in HOW long?!
6. ...I want one...
Holy crap, I didn't even notice the time it took until I saw your comment.. that's faaast
My thought was, “How large will the next printer be, this one is already massive”
6 hour, what
@Nicholas Downs dont even get stareted on the next one..
...
7. Where is the tank ?!
:)
The discount on the red filaments isn't ended yet, isn't it?😂
🤣
Was thinking the same!
Maybe it's his favorite colour filament
Couldn’t you use a printer this size to print an entire instrument, like a guitar or cello? And not just a solid body, but a full sandable acoustic...
yes, a spanish guitar, but it would sound weird in plastic (maybe using a wood composite or with a metal 3d printer), also the strings you cant print them.
He could do an ukulele in one go. People already did it and they said it sounds better than many you buy in stores (there are factory made ukes that are really really shitty)
He got his start by printing a violin. It had to be done in several pieces. Now he could print it as a single piece.
"It is cooaaaaald out here todayyyy" I agree
Not once that heat pad comes on...
"I will bodge it!" Spoken like a true engineer. 😉
Bodging for the win!
@@ivanmirandawastaken Bodging is a traditional wood-turning craft, using green wood to make chair legs and other cylindrical parts of chairs.
@@fantasyforge9312 k
Dear almost every RUclipsr, this is a video that is not clickbait.
Now try and do that
They need this guy on mars to assist with the 3D printed habitats!
That is a death sentence.... why would you wish this on Ivan?
No better person for the red PLAnet!
Marco Toselli lol "PLAnet“ - I love it! 😂
As a CR-10S5 owner, I'm in awe of the sheer size of this lad, absolute unit.
Now cant you say that the parts are too big when the printer is bigger!
4° Comentario en español xD, empiezo a ver el video y digo, por el acento, este es español jajaja
y por como habla el ingles..
My question is how much was the total final cost? Cause this is something I desperately need!
Here’s an educated guess based on the most expensive components: (with VAT)
-Herema direct drive (£108)
-SuperVilcano Hot end (£96)
-Duet2 wifi and Duex5 (~£200-£240)
-24V power supply (£50)
-6 stepper motors (~£60)
-1x1m heated bed (~£120?)
-Aluminium sheet (~£66)
-Gears (~£10)
-6m of belts (~£16)
-Filament for printed parts (~£25?)
-Aluminium extrusions (~£90?)
So maybe ~£885? I would certainly set myself a £1000 budget if I did this but you could go for a cheaper setup using cheaper parts from an ender 3 like the power supply, hot-end, computer, etc.
edit: changed price of aluminium
@@NullHyp plus the 3d printer for all of the parts
MATER DOIT lol I was assuming someone brave enough to try and build such a big one would already have a “small” one.
But sure, add £150 for an ender 3 👍🏻
@@NullHyp wow $150 that's pretty cheap thanks
@@NullHyp just so you know you just got a new sub
How cheap is to print 3d parts 😁
you got a hermes and a supervolcano, time to print BIG and FAST! see how fast the big printer can go without quality loss, would be very interesting (maybe 80mm/s with those thick lines? not bad)
you are funny.. 80mm/s ? what about 30
@@matutolaYT why not? i print 85mm/s with a .6 nozzle and a normal volcano. i'd be supprised if he couldn't match that with a 1.0 or 1.2 nozzle.
@@EricNistler and how heavy is X and Y system ?
@@matutolaYT That was my thought. X would do fine, but that's a LOT of glass and aluminum to swing around. Bed Thrash is gonna be an issue, which means severe ghosting on vertical surfaces, gaps, and it could even knock over prints.
@@Corbald there is a reason why industry spends millions in shaving grams out of 3d printer systems just to get 10mm faster, because it can be 12hours faster in a 3D print.
Very nicely done. Usually for printers this big will cost 10k plus or higher. You may want to consider using a closed loop stepper to prevent step loss and also resume print on specific layers for print fails or resume due to power loss. But overall excellent work
Give him a year or two and the begining of video will sound something like this:
*"Hey guys! As you can see I sacrificed this entire room to make even larger
3d printer. The truck with red filament spool is on it's way so in this video we only run a 2 by 2 meters callibration cube"*
It is 2023, the fifth printer has finally finished the printing the rocket. The rocket will be used to build the first zero G 3d printer in orbit. Without the pull of gravity, there is no limit to how big the glass plate can be. Sights can now be set even higher...the moon.
@@brendan-kfp7.62mmminigun4 This is getting more and more hilarious
Congratulations on the build! As a hobbyist 3D printer enthusiast and DIYer, I'm totally in love with this and I can not wait to see more of it!
I am wondering what music do you listen when you build the printer
Hey! I have a legitimate question! I want to get into 3D printing mechanisms, but I'm really bad at taking measurements! I'm looking into simple robotics, like helicopters and arms etc, and I need a lot of precise parts. Currently my skillset is "upload a model into Cura and cut it" but I want to get into making custom pieces. What process do you do to take measurements IRL? I have a multimeter and caliper, but I'm having a hard time translating that into 3D imagry software. If you can't help, it's honestly no big deal! I'd love a response either way if you (or anyone) see's this!
Amazing build Ivan. Any chance you could do a video detailing your design process? I'm interested in building my own large format 3D printer as well as a CNC router and would love to learn about the considerations you had while designing this one!
GREAT WORK!
I could not make that interesting to watch, sorry!
@@ivanmirandawastaken I can't disagree with you there. For 90% of your audience anyway. Nice work none the less.
Maybe a different channel for the less interesting? I would love to watch that also.
“ I used the filament to control the filament “ Thanos Voice
I cannot stop violently dancing to the music in the beginning. It just won't stop playing, and I am very tired. I need to go to sleep. Please let me stop dancing. This is going on for much longer than I anticipated. This might cause permanent muscle and joint damage if I don't stop. The music is still going. Somebody help. My feet are going numb and I'm about to pass out
Have you tried removing all sound from your device?
Hey,
Would you mind sharing the Plans for the whole Build ? I'd really like to build one in this size and your Build seems very good to build and I also like the Design with the Extrusion Profiles.
Phillip Thomas just say you didnt do your homework :D
@@iKn-ft2bc Well I did them. Someway at least.... I wrote this comment during the Video at a point where he was just explaining the Printer. Later on he said that the Plans are on his site so I guess that's enough for me
@@phillipthomas357 The metal parts you can work out sorta easily, it is if it needs custom coding to operate that I would be stuck on. That being said having measurements for the aluminum parts would make it way easier.
now you can print a full size Tank!!! I love it!!!
He could probably print a benchy boat big enough to sit in too 😂
Or a kid submarine
My thoughts on this:
1) Congrats on the custom build! It looks really nice!
2) If you decide to build another printer, consider making one that moves the bed in the Z-axis. It will require less speed, making for lower vibration, and you can actually print precision parts *fast*. Right now, you are using a large nozzle size with, I suppose, a large layer hight? That will work, for large parts, but will leave *heavy* ringing and issues when it comes to the y-axis. The bed's mass vs the belts is both going to wear it out really quickly, but also impact the prints.
3) You *need* an auto leveling system for that printsize with that budget bed. Mirrors are nice, but as you noticed, don't take thermal stress very well. Any bed surface you build with that size is going to have some sort of warping, or at least develop it over time. I would recommend a genuine bltouch. It actually probes the bed with a little stick, and has incredibly high accuracy. You usually combine it with manual leveling. (you can add four macros, each for one corner, and it will move to that place, probe, and give you the result in the log. so you can screw each leveling screw to absolute perfection, and check it out).
Me at 11:30pm eating cereal in the kitchen, chilling to some montage music:
Him: TAKE TWO
ME: HOLY SHIT I WOKE MY STEP DAD UP AND HE'S BEHI... Holy crap dude. Scared the bejesus out of me.
That was most I've jumped in a looooooonnnngggggg time lol
Ivan, you are an awesome builder. This thing is amazing. Huge print in just 6 hours! I wish you all the spacers man!
This might sound dumb, but how does one just build a 3D printer? Like, software-wise? If I took apart my ender 3 and made it this big, how would the printer know how big it is, etc..
Is this something an average maker could do, or do you need to understand coding and advanced electronics?
Could a person like me build one, with no coding or electronics training but I’ve assembled and modded a 3D printer with plug and play parts and built a few basic projects including LEDs and whatnot.
I’d really love to give something like this a try, but couldn’t afford to sink time and money into something I couldn’t ever finish....
where did you get this massive heat bed element?
nice printer!
At that size I think you use a space heater under the bed. :)
Search on aliexpress for silicone heater pads. There are even bigger ones than this but they get quite expensive (150€ and up) at that size.
Ivan, where did you get the silicone heater? I need to get one!
Hello, I am Mustafa from Iraq, it is necessary to know how much all this costs, because I do not have enough to buy a small 3D printer.
Ivan is awesome. Pure Red Madness. 3D printing love affair :)
When your so early that you actually see the real FIRST comment XD
When are you uploading the schematics i would like to build one two
As usual my mind is blown. So many different things that made me smile in this video. Keep up the crazy. Cheers, JAYTEE
Thanks mate!
I just got a quote to print a 13' submarine in 1/32 scale to finish out for RC it was over $8000. Does this sound right? Printing is that expensive?
Which material?
@@ivanmirandawastaken I didn't even specify, I know so little about it and it wasn't specified. I'm just thinking it should NOT cost 8K to print something like your tank. Do you? Thinking I should higher someone like you to print it.
You are Amazing
This is awesome! But considering the amount of filament this probably goes through I think a filament sensor would be a worthwhile addition.
Brain: i know what we are doing this weekend.. wallet: you just got in to 3D printing a week ago so, why do you hate me so much?
You should've gone for a CoreXY setup because of how big and heavy the bed is. With the current configuration you won't be able to print quickly.
True
For that size a CoreXY is double the price. It requires much more extruded aluminum and a frame really stiff to support the belts and pulleys
maybe he can move the X gantry instead of the bed to make it "lighter" when you are printing something big and you added 6KG of filament over the bed.... but I don't think the problem is the speed
For big prints you usually use big nozzles and high layer heights... the extruder and hotend have limits, so you only print at like 80mm/s, for this setup it's not a problem.
The real problem is the quality. You can see the frame shaking, and for that bed you cant use high acceleration and jerks... and with this system you use 1 motor per axis...
With Corexy you won't print quicker because you are limited by the hotend but you can use 200-300+ travel speed and better quality and acceleration, and it's less likely to lose steps in an axis, because the two motors move the gantry at the same time and the system always weights the same
Hi, awesome printer, almost as big as my bedroom and puts my prusa to shame, just one question from a design point of view, have you thought about using wider gt2 belts, would there be any improvement in doing so? Not really clued up on printers of this size but I know you can get 12mm width belts which are a fair bit stiffer :)
For sure, the wider the belt the less it would stretch. In the X axisnit would not make much difference but in the Y for sure it would.
Dang, now I want to print one of those.
Dang man how do you get it to stick so perfect on the mirror?? I have a CR-10, and have been using the stock glass bed with glue stick for months, but I hated the rough marks it left. I loved the PEI sheet on my other printer, stuck SO well and so smooth, but for a 12x12 inch of it it’s $20 which I don’t want to pay lol. I went out to get a glass bed yesterday, to hopefully avoid tape, glue, and hairspray, but man it doesn’t stick any better than bare glass. Any suggestions??
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@@ivanmirandawastaken that is EXACTLY what i needed. Thank you so much. I cant wait to try this as soon as my 10 hr print (on a taped mirror :) ) finishes.
@@ivanmirandawastaken i washed it 3 times, and in the 3rd wash i finally was able to print a benchy, but there was horrible warping im surprised it didnt fall off. Is there anything else you can suggest? Do you think really fine sandpaper could help? I dont know what else to try. PEI works fine on my other smaller printer, i know how to level the bed correctly, its not warped because its a mirror, i just dunno
Why not go 3mm filament for something this big?
The detail would look like shet
@@kileyfamily467 does filament diameter mean something regarding print quality? he is speaking about the filament diameter, not the nozzle i think.
Hemera doesn't have a 3mm option and it doesn't really matter
This is a great build, Ivan! I have my own giant printer build in my garage (600x900mm) that is based off of the MPCNC platform. Decided to give up on the self leveling bed aspect (BL Touch sensor) after fighting Marlin for 2 months and will try out your leveling feet instead for the bed now. Thanks for the inspiration.
Why did the bed leveling not work with a bl touch?
Where did you find a heater for that big of a bed?
It looks like Ivan is using many smaller heaters side by side.
No, it looks like a part of 3M but i cant find it. I have a big MPCNC printer and it would be nice if your could tell us where the heater can be bourght. Have you a part number?
@@florianjabberwock8411 Sorry, I just looked at those black stickers. My bad. I Didn't pay attention..
Reptile heat mats?
This may be a stupid or uninformed question, which is why im asking it, but why do all the diy printers use a glass/mirror for the bed? Why not go with something along the lines of the prusa with a spring steel bed on a magnetic heated surface. Or even just a textured spring steel surface that is clipped to your heated surface?
A mirror can be bought anywhere with the exact dimensions of your machine. The other solutions you mention require dedicated industrial processes not easily available
I really appreciated watching how you solved the cabling challenge and ended up with a really neat result. Thanks!
My pleasure
Add dro lines to all axis so you can achieve sub .01 mm resolution. Then build yourself a cnc router, and make all the brackets out of metal. You will become unstoppable and all your enemies shall piss on themselves out of fear, and respect
Check my latest video
"Many centuries later"
Wow! You did it! It works, and works very well.
I was wrong in my assessments about stability and quality at that size. That’s an excellent quality print! Very well done!!
You deserve to be proud of your engineering and design skills.
Thank you for showing us how to build the mother of all 3D printers! 😊👍🏻
8:08 scared me wtf
friend you will have the files to print the parts or sell the plans of the 3d machine
let's rebuild the tank in a single print
Hi Ivan, I am a rookie at 3d printing. I loved the Idea of your big printer so I bought both the boards you bought for your printer and I'm sure I have everything connected correctly. I even got onto the web control board but I do not know how to properly configure the motors or the end stops. I need step by step on how to make this happen or for some one to actually come an help me because I am unable to home everything.
The other thing that you should know is that I bought the quad fusion extruder head so that I could mix colors. I have been at this for some time and gave up for awhile but I have spent to much time and money to give up. The things you have built are crazy cool and I would love to get things going. PLEASE HELP ME.
AWESOME PROJECT! so cool, i like it a lot. Cheers
Thanks!
hi ivan , how much did it cost in total this nice printer ? have you done a kit that we can repeat this ?
No idea, I made it on the fly
I literally Have all of the components already. I would love to show you the final product.
please do
can you send me a list of the parts, I can print the printed ones, but I've pretty much lost most of my brain cells trying to figure it out...
How much was the total money spent on such a monster printer? I want to give this a try
Just bumped into your channel. You're a hero.
10:56 lol look at that shaking when the bed moves I love this xD
why didn't your filament get used tho! did you have to use a new roll mid print?
I don't think it would have cracked if you had brought the temp up slowly. The uneven temp change thermal shocked it.
I updated that as soon as it happened but the risk was too high, my shop can get pretty chilly and I don't want to wait a lot to start a print
Stunning. This is absolutely, ridiculously majestic!
Not that I have now space to keep it or a reason to build it, but I definitely would!
Awesome work, Ivan!
FROM SCRATCH
I gotta get myself one of those
Two days ago i was telling to my
friend: "i think cartesian system will have a limit in size"
I think i'll give him a call, and tell him that i was wrong
The cartesian system does not have an upper limit on size.
In a practical sense, this general design with a moving bed (not vertically-moving) certainly does, and it appears he’s pushing that limit pretty darn hard.
Imagine having to move that thing!
"I used the printer to print the printer"
I was hoping to find this comment
I want to build huge 3d printer buy I don't know how ?
Sir, those plans for sale now.
I mean right now
If you need plans to build this you know nothing about 3D printing.
@@amarissimus29
I disagree,
Having plans speed up the design process and creation of a new product.
Check your facts and attitude.
I'M A NEWBIE IN THE 3D PRINTING WORLD AND TO SEE YOU CREATE SUCH AN AMAZING ENORMOUS 3D PRINTER IS SO BEAUTIFUL. I WISH IT COULD BE AS EASY AS YOU MADE IT LOOK MAKING THE PRINTER.
When you list specifics on prints, you need to include the nozzle diameter.
Nathaniel Stenzel no he doesn’t. But it’d be nice if he did.
@5:34
@@AlanTwoRings ohhhh....0.8mm. I wish he repeated it when he provided the other print stats.
Hey Ivan ! Great videos, ive seen almost all twice ! I am gearing up for a printer build and am curious which style Z you prefer. Your first big build used the bed for Z axis. The second big build was like a giant prusa with the Z moving extruder. Any pros, cons, or thoughts here ?? Thanks for your time !
there is a cracked part... it is a part of the print head assembly... it can be seen at 5:29
I bet he hasn't realized while editing the video xD
This guy builds this in 6 hours
Me: builds 6in box takes 2 1/2 days FML
I love the music you’ve used on this and the last few videos. It’s like I’m watching an Oceans movie lol.
Nice job on this printer too!
Thanks!
Eres una maquina ;)
Solo te falta imprimir en metal, sería un puntazo.
That “WOO HOOO!” scared the shit out of me. Oh my god. Fuck.
I’m wearing headphones and it sounded like it was behind me to my left and super loud... Jesus.
My heart still hurts... goddamn.
Great job! You will be able to make parts for a even bigger 3D printer from this printer. 😃
is there a reason you used the Duex board? Im wondering because you have a single X, a single Y , and Dual Z with a single E axis, all of which can be done by a single Duet Board, why the Duex expansion board?
It has two motors on all axes
@@ivanmirandawastaken that makes total sense, sorry for questioning you
Man if you made a kit for this would be great, love your enthusiasm fantastic vid, I went to the USA and looked at the pbc linear 3d printers 1200x1200 but were $60'000 I now have a Creality cr10-max build them and they will buy them.thanks David NZ
What was the software that you used to control the 3d printer. Like the software from your computer to printer?
I think he used marlin 2.0