What's the deal with Shyvana? || character review (League of Legends)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @TBSkyen
    @TBSkyen  3 года назад +220

    The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/tbskyen09211

    • @FFraciSS
      @FFraciSS 3 года назад +5

      When are you gonna talk about the new Pentakill Skins?

    • @gabrielmina441
      @gabrielmina441 3 года назад +23

      Hey tb if anyone sends you that fanfic could you send it to us on the community tab. Cause, god damm I wanna read that story.

    • @TBSkyen
      @TBSkyen  3 года назад +21

      @@gabrielmina441 Can do!

    • @thescrub7682
      @thescrub7682 3 года назад +3

      Skyen...please write a story in a fantasy setting, you seriously have more than enough talent and skill to be able to make something absolutely stunning and I'm all for it.

    • @rickyn3023
      @rickyn3023 3 года назад +1

      Hey TBSkyen is there any way you’d be willing to post the premiere waiting loop that played before this live upload? It was so calming and some real eye candy

  • @em731
    @em731 3 года назад +820

    “How do you know what justice *is,* except by the aching in your heart when you see injustice done in front of you?” is such a raw quote, and i can NOT deal with the fact that i heard it from a video about League

    • @dude-jk2hn
      @dude-jk2hn 3 года назад +24

      Such good quote. Makes me think about all those bystanders who kinda want to do something but wont because of how others might think, react. Or whatever mind bending though processes they have. Leaning to deny anyways.

    • @user-wu7ew8yb3w
      @user-wu7ew8yb3w 2 года назад +1

      @@scorpioneldar
      interesting

    • @Neg.Lakayy
      @Neg.Lakayy 2 года назад +2

      Great quote.

  • @alblin
    @alblin 3 года назад +539

    I've never had a case of story telling blue balls before. I hate it.
    Thanks TB.

  • @Ajehy
    @Ajehy 3 года назад +194

    17:03 While I agree that her dragon form doesn't need armor for protection in the physical sense, I'd argue that she *does* need it in more of a societal sense. first of all, as a member of the Dragon Guard, she needs to avoid friendly fire when fighting in her dragon form (imagine some ballista operator shooting her down because "oops"). Secondly, since she's ostensibly trying to fit in in Demacia, wearing armor even in her bestial form might help remind the other soldiers that she's "human", a person and comrade rather than a beast. It deliberately separates her from true dragons, as an attempt to gain her some measure of that acceptance she so craves.

  • @InvernoDeScuro
    @InvernoDeScuro 3 года назад +1233

    This fan fic story of tbskyen’s almost made me cry. I really wish we could explore so many of League’s stories just like that.

    • @FruitH.
      @FruitH. 3 года назад +82

      dude I thought he was just talking about the new lore. I was like yo why is this so GOOD is this NEW? no it was what HE made, it was SO FUCKING GOOD, I genuinely almost cried just listening. :D D;
      I want it to finish, I want jarvan to save ana and for garden to finally come to the truth side, since lux is his sister so he has a close tie. it’d be so awesome. AAAA

    • @CathakLinari
      @CathakLinari 3 года назад +25

      I think I need to read every version of this people write, and I need all the links
      I'm not totally sure how it gets there, but for an ending, I think a bit of poetry is in order, with Shyvana delivering the dying Jarvan to a rebel base

    • @sarah-fq8lu
      @sarah-fq8lu 3 года назад +6

      ikr made me really want to keep writting the story and create infinite other fanfics of runeterra lol

    • @loicduchange4429
      @loicduchange4429 3 года назад +9

      yea that's an AWESOME fanfic (oh such drama) but it as one minor plot hole it being the magesickers are a bunch of weak rob wearing wimps and jarvan has murdered armed an armored strong noxian soldiers by the past so if he has beff with them he very probably could exterminate the magesickers with just is fists or at least is spear and considering the emotional state of the character slaugthering the organisation that wants to kill a woman he loves dispite all it implies cause he loves her his likely

    • @e.v4892
      @e.v4892 3 года назад +19

      @@loicduchange4429 That's underselling the Mageseekers. Considering it's their job to deal with the magic threats of Demacia, one could imagine at least some level of skill on their part. Hell, the Legend of Runeterra cards (particularly the Mageseeker Inciter) suggest they use kinds of magic to deal with particularly dangerous threats.
      But,combat is hardly their strength. The issue with the Mageseekers is how much sway they have. Their leader is wedded to one of the more powerful families in the nation, and ever since Sylas' escape one would assume he's been whispering in Jarvan's ear. Then, more importantly for Skyen's scenario the , entire country's anti-mage culture means the Mageseekers have a strong foundation. They're the good guys as far as many Demacians are concerned, so if Jarvan decided to ignore the Mageseekers the peasants might attempt to dethrone him for it. Assuming, of course, the Mageseekers in that scenario don't incite their own revolution from that.

  • @UrdnotRed
    @UrdnotRed 3 года назад +425

    Skyen, I hate to say it, but I doubt anyone could give that fanfic idea more justice than you did. I think you should write it yourself. That was just... oh man, it inspired me to finish a totally unrelated fanfic for a totally unrelated fandom. That cliffhanger was BRUTAL.

    • @itayker22
      @itayker22 3 года назад +23

      YES! Just an amazing story, better than a big bunch of the cannon ones. He REALLY should write that down

    • @samanthaharriage8010
      @samanthaharriage8010 3 года назад +8

      Yes! That was brutal!

  • @Cymb3lin3
    @Cymb3lin3 3 года назад +1134

    I'd love to hear your take on the whole sentinels thing. It's disappointed a whole lot of people and emotions ran pretty high in the discussions surrounding it. Would love a level-headed take and I think you'd pull that off wonderfully.

    • @frankhorrigan1508
      @frankhorrigan1508 3 года назад +35

      The event was bad because it revolved around 9 characters in a game with 150, and the characters it involved were so out of place it was a joke,

    • @asht7815
      @asht7815 3 года назад +28

      @@frankhorrigan1508 nah, the issue was 1000 versions of the story with loads of inconsistencies even within each version

    • @Steleaf
      @Steleaf 3 года назад +1

      i second this !

    • @inapleasemakemeintoacup51
      @inapleasemakemeintoacup51 3 года назад +7

      do you guys remember the ruined king game? the one with pyke and ahri? yeah, I wonder what that should be

    • @bioraidos5454
      @bioraidos5454 3 года назад +11

      @@inapleasemakemeintoacup51 game was delayed due to both covid and bad weather that resulted in a power outage. I feel bad for the devs because they're great

  • @ruberose1825
    @ruberose1825 3 года назад +494

    Jarvan IV in LoR: "Our people WILL accept you, I'll see to that."
    His dad died after this, but he is indeed a liar.
    And yes, I would like to watch your Sentinels of Light video.

    • @raphvaldes9368
      @raphvaldes9368 3 года назад +5

      wasn't Sion the one that killed Jarvan III or did they change that? in the video it sounded like his father's killer was still unknown.

    • @ruberose1825
      @ruberose1825 3 года назад +34

      @@raphvaldes9368 Who told you that? Sion only killed J1. J3's killer is still unknown, it could be the Black Rose.

    • @raphvaldes9368
      @raphvaldes9368 3 года назад +16

      @@ruberose1825 i just remember killing a J around the time of his reworked. i guess i asumed it was J3 but i guess it was J1. Guess i just got mixed up with all the Js. thanks for clarifying.

    • @mistared4021
      @mistared4021 3 года назад

      @@ruberose1825 wasn't it sylas?or was I confused a bit?

    • @DarkwillsEnd
      @DarkwillsEnd 3 года назад +26

      @@mistared4021 Sylas had captured J4 and they both found him dead. J4 blamed him, but Sylas seemed surprised and honestly disappointed since he'd wanted to do it. So the implication is either the mageseekers did it since he was about to dissolve the organization or the Black Rose did it to sow chaos.

  • @k-ER-m
    @k-ER-m 3 года назад +748

    I haven't seen any deep-dive into the failings of the sentinels of light event, so yes, I would like to watch your post-mortem analysis.

    • @markjade3587
      @markjade3587 3 года назад

      Agree

    • @pedropaulo5600
      @pedropaulo5600 3 года назад +2

      yeah, i like to pretend the event never happened but would like a detailed video about everything that went wrong, and oh boy a lot went wrong

  • @jimstoesz3878
    @jimstoesz3878 3 года назад +395

    I am *ALWAYS* in the mood for a video about what went wrong with the Ruination event. They did all my fave characters *SO DIRTY* (alas, poor Yorick...) and getting an "expert eye" on how that happened would be nice.

    • @Pyrous56
      @Pyrous56 3 года назад +7

      I doubt they’d do it but an aftermath of the ruination could be cool, see what yorick and maokai are doing in the shadow isles now that the black mist has been halted, maybe side stories about each ruined character and the consequences of their ruined actions?

  • @clorcestv
    @clorcestv 3 года назад +327

    Shyvana is the Xerath of Demacia. One day she's gonna get tired of waiting when Jarvan IV says something about freedom of mages and will take the matter into her hands. At least I hope so (not that she becomes a Xerath 2.0 but that her story is gonna move in a meaningful way, and not like 'A day in life of a demacian dragon' story)

    • @clorcestv
      @clorcestv 3 года назад +16

      Now that I've watched the video till the end I like the "The Future" part a lot!

    • @zennim125
      @zennim125 3 года назад +26

      hmm, makes me think of a future event against the void, with the kingdoms uniting to fight back against it, where azir talks with jarvan 4 about this with something like "do not repeat my mistake"

    • @pedrogomezid
      @pedrogomezid 3 года назад +7

      @@zennim125 Azir is too arrogant to do that.

    • @zennim125
      @zennim125 3 года назад +8

      @@pedrogomezid that is what character development is for, which is to say, riot will probably never do it, but hey, it would be kinda cool ....

    • @boxtupos7718
      @boxtupos7718 3 года назад +6

      @@pedrogomezid Yes too arrogant, that's why he listened to a child and followed what said child told him.
      Also his immediate action after his resurrection was to help a stranger.

  • @keithcarson7638
    @keithcarson7638 3 года назад +257

    Listening to TB Skyen read his "fanfics of the future" is amazing, you can't help but wish and pray that this is what happens next and ho boy each one of these are amazing.

  • @parvusignum261
    @parvusignum261 3 года назад +166

    For shyvana wearing armor, one school of thought is "If she wears armor when human, where's it go when she shifts". I think a design using either tattered armor hanging off her dragon form, or better yet, specially designed dragon armor. Imagine an armor that's a bit bulky in human form, but expands when she shifts so it doesnt get torn and shattered.

    • @saltytoast6669
      @saltytoast6669 3 года назад +23

      I was thinking, what if her armor when she transforms kind of just, stays inside her, like it gets surrounded by skin and you can slightly see it still poking out from her and skin is growing on it

    • @marlikbudvergard
      @marlikbudvergard 3 года назад +9

      I would like it to be like Galakrond in Hearthstone for the class Warrior, the armor becomes kind of part of the skin and surrounds him, and when he is at level 3 he becomes fully armored

    • @kenjideaunte
      @kenjideaunte 3 года назад +5

      My thought went to "well her armor is exoskeleton when she's human to appear more human-like in a armored suit"

    • @biomutarist6832
      @biomutarist6832 3 года назад +9

      Maybe her armour also helps seal her dragon form, so would fall off when she transforms? Though that might clash with the lore and the narrative of her character...

    • @marlikbudvergard
      @marlikbudvergard 3 года назад

      @@biomutarist6832 I like that idea, it could be explored

  • @PNNH696
    @PNNH696 3 года назад +377

    J4 really, really, really needs Ana for him to be able to drink his character development juice. I also like your story very much.

    • @jimstoesz3878
      @jimstoesz3878 3 года назад +49

      Jarvan IV needs Shyvana to be able to develop as a character but Shyvana deserves better than being stuck with Jarvan IV, and so the cycle continues...

    • @watchfulwanderer6443
      @watchfulwanderer6443 3 года назад +41

      @@jimstoesz3878 stuck with him? no. but like skyen says in the future section, she could be a catalyst for him. if jarvan decides to change, to honor his promise, it won't just be a good way of advancing every demacian storyline, it will make jarvan and shyvana an excellent pair of foils for azir and xerath. i think that such a change in the lore would be very good for league of legends as a whole.

    • @Pyrous56
      @Pyrous56 3 года назад +14

      This whole narrative could lead into a great demacian wrap up for sylas, shyvana, garen, lux, hell I’m pretty sure if the conflict is big enough you know kayle and morgana would be a part of that kind of story (If riot ever decided to ever f##king use their characters)

    • @Qysmuth
      @Qysmuth 3 года назад +8

      Personally would have J4 in skyen's story save shyvana and mage seeker basically take over demacia exile the prince

    • @milkjug4237
      @milkjug4237 3 года назад +7

      Ana is a nice inconspicuous nickname for her, damn

  • @nimfadoro1169
    @nimfadoro1169 3 года назад +182

    Before the Lux comic, I definitely interpreted Jarvan as being a real catalyst for change in Demacia. I really didn’t like the characterization of Jarvan at the end of that. Anger is understandable but man they really just made him an ass and left him there. Hopefully one day they’ll let Jarvan grow…

    • @uomoafide6539
      @uomoafide6539 3 года назад +23

      That's what he represented before the Demacia rewrite. A young, hot-headed prince, eager to jump into the fray and bring honor to the kingdom. Old lore made sure to use this idea so that his capture would be the catalyst for his growth by having him going into a sort of "knightly quest" in search of self-discovery to become, one day, a better ruler worthy of succeeding his father. The problem is that, in the old lore, this happened all at once in his backstory, he came back and he was already grown and changed, becoming a beacon of change for Demacia as well. Now, i feel like, if we imagine for a second a different situation in Demacia, they could bring back that idea and use it to spur Jarvan's growth as a character. While current canonical Jarvan makes sense for the story they are telling, it still feels like a missed opportunity and a bit of a letdown to what he previously could have been.
      And yeah, i know... say this because i mostly still hold on to the old stories but i really think this was a disappointing decision, to me at least. Hopefully they might find a way to bring this whole idea back into the current canon, one way or another.

    • @Corsharkgaming
      @Corsharkgaming 3 года назад +4

      @@uomoafide6539 I want the set ups from First Shield to have pay offs. I miss old Demacia lore because at least when they were boring and static they didn't take the character I've cared about for 6 years and turn his character inside out warping every dream goal and desire he had.

  • @ntdb0ss
    @ntdb0ss 3 года назад +67

    Jarvan at the dnd table: I cast cataclysm so everyone falls over.
    DM TBSkyen: Roll for luck.

  • @pedrogomezid
    @pedrogomezid 3 года назад +120

    I do love how the Dragonguard has armor in her colors and style, kinda like Darius’ aesthetic becoming Noxus’ aesthetic.

    • @letsrank9349
      @letsrank9349 3 года назад +7

      Imagine Shyvana joining Noxus to oppose Jarvan. Kinda like Romeo and Juliet it's their ideals that keeps them apart.

    • @justascarecrow6988
      @justascarecrow6988 3 года назад +10

      @@letsrank9349 Shyv joining Noxus is rather far swung. The rebelling mage thing fits her best, since she doesn't wholly oppose Demacia as a rebel, but rather attempts to change it.
      If she rolls in as a Noxian, she just tears down another home.

    • @hollystepp3735
      @hollystepp3735 2 года назад

      @@justascarecrow6988 Yet Noxus would've been a far better place for Shyvana than Demacia. I agree that the mage faction is very good, but I still have curiosity about how she'd react to a country where there is no discrimination on race or appearance, merely in power. And she has a lot of power. I could see Darius and the other militaristic people respecting her for her strength. And I'd love to see how Swain would plan on using her against the black rose

  • @Sunsetradi0
    @Sunsetradi0 3 года назад +56

    She has been my main since I started playing in season 7, I love the idea of a girl that hides her true nature from others to fit in because I can relate to that feeling
    I think her human form should be a mix of her ironscales skin and the dragon guard armor, I love redhead Shyvana, ditch the helmet because it's stupid and give her long hair that turns into a tail when she becomes a dragon, I want the transformation to feel like a key part of her gameplay too, it already is but we need to enhance the experience because it feels really cool to just ram through people while this big dragon lady is engulfed in flames
    Also give her some muscles and make her attack with claws made out of flames covering her hands instead of those gauntlets she currently has

    • @Osric24
      @Osric24 3 года назад +4

      Indeed! More buff monster gal love, and especially more Shyvana love.

  • @HumanDictionary7
    @HumanDictionary7 3 года назад +80

    PLEASE do a dissection of the Sentinels of Light event. I would love to hear your thoughts on it. Also, thank you for bringing light to my poor half-dragon girl!!

  • @nausicaa3746
    @nausicaa3746 3 года назад +25

    This video made me rethink about how much I love Shyvana and how she could be much more, and also how I despise Tianna Crownguard

  • @touhoumemesrus2305
    @touhoumemesrus2305 3 года назад +15

    SKYEN’S STORYTELLING IS SO GOOD!!!! I really Just get lost in his voice and can really picture the scenario in my head, like it’s a cinematic!

  • @despitemyself226
    @despitemyself226 3 года назад +112

    As a Patron, the video covering the absolute failure of the Ruination Event, would be fantastic!
    10 full years & riot finally hurt me enough to leave it mostly behind. Kinda wild a lore event did it, but here we are?

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 3 года назад +8

      I don't really follow League outside Skyen's videos, so I'm _very_ interested to see a breakdown of this ruined Ruination event I keep hearing about.

    • @jumarshmellow
      @jumarshmellow 3 года назад +5

      Didn’t they say that leagues official lore team didn’t work on the ruination event also I’m kinda hoping they deal more with the demons now since the ruination would’ve caused allot of chaos which they grow off of

    • @kitnal4143
      @kitnal4143 3 года назад +7

      @@jumarshmellow there isn't an "official lore team" as far as I am aware. There are the writers for the stories and the character bios etc., sure, but the skin team is just as much a part of the "lore" team as any other. Honestly the absence of a "lore" team and a lack of communication is probably what made it so bad.

  • @the_slasher_pl1830
    @the_slasher_pl1830 3 года назад +34

    Holy shieeet
    When are they going to finally hire you as a writer in Riot!
    Your take on the story was so emotional, hyped and just soooo great to listen to! Good job! Way more interesting than how they treated her

  • @Aliceisnutty
    @Aliceisnutty 3 года назад +19

    The redesign you did is so sick. I feel like- it could be like Kayle. Pre level 6 she’s all buttoned up. post level 6 she could look all raged out and upset. I mean- her meter for her ult is called RAGE. And then transform into big beefy dragon. It’d be so sick. I’d main shyv more hahhha

  • @anlize3422
    @anlize3422 3 года назад +51

    I liked Subjectively version of Shivana. The idea of a dragon wearing armor has more to do with identification than protection. If you have two dragons, one of them being Shivana, going at each other and both have similar color schemes, how do you approach this? Having one of the dragons wear _something_ to identify its allegiance or identity is the key. Also, as a sidenote, I would like to see your take on the sentinels event Skyen.

    • @zaephyrfraser8276
      @zaephyrfraser8276 3 года назад +3

      @@epser5842 AGREED

    • @snqoqo
      @snqoqo 3 года назад

      @@epser5842 thats your opinion, i like subjectivly even if i dont agree with all their art choices

    • @zaephyrfraser8276
      @zaephyrfraser8276 3 года назад +1

      @@snqoqo they have basic art talent, but they are incredibly snobbish and condescending in their redesigns, ESPECIALLY the pokemon ones, they ignore source material and meaning, and act high and mighty.

    • @Subjectively
      @Subjectively 3 года назад +7

      @@epser5842 I think they’re alright

    • @TBSkyen
      @TBSkyen  3 года назад +4

      They really don't.

  • @itsmerb86
    @itsmerb86 3 года назад +68

    I love my dragon lass, and hope she gets the respect she deserves. She's my friend's favorite I know, haha, it brings me back

    • @ezroid7791
      @ezroid7791 3 года назад +3

      Shes my very first champ I ever decided to main, ive shifted over to other champs now as shyvana needs some more love

    • @Pyrous56
      @Pyrous56 3 года назад +1

      @@ezroid7791 If I may be so bold to suggest, In Wild Rift she’s actually not half bad, not a top tier jg but in the upper bracket for jg characters

    • @belivuk2526
      @belivuk2526 3 года назад

      I've always had a soft spot for her. No matter how much she falls out of meta I really want to find a way to play her with a new style that hopefully doesn't get widespread and nerfed to the ground

  • @Wampirfan69
    @Wampirfan69 3 года назад +25

    The fact that we're probably never getting a story as good as this ff is very sad.

  • @foxesforsale
    @foxesforsale 3 года назад +46

    Ahhhhhhhh I WANT THIS AS SHYV'S STORY REALLY BADLY?!?! Incredible for her, and incredible for Jarvan to have the moment of reckoning with how much he can actually do as a ruler to make Demacia better. What can he do to LEAD Demacia? To help more than just one person?
    I also want a Sentinels of Light video too... mostly because there's a lot of criticism to be levelled at it, but I'd really like it if you could look at what was good about it too, and reasons for Riot to try a narrative push again.

  • @YakubTheKid
    @YakubTheKid 3 года назад +32

    The Sentinels event gave the absolute coolest idea for Pantheon, showing that he was repossessed by the Pantheon while ruined, then becoming an Ascended to regain control of his body and to fight for Runeterra, which was a perfect touchstone of how he hates gods but has to become one to save humanity. Then the worst short of all time just has him show up, yell, and press Q once instead of having him becoming the god his supposedly canon skin presents

    • @yurinabesima
      @yurinabesima 3 года назад +6

      It´s even worse: Riot has confirmed that Ascended Pantheon isn´t canon because it´s a Prestige skin, and apparentely there is a rule that forbids that(?)

    • @justascarecrow6988
      @justascarecrow6988 3 года назад +1

      @@yurinabesima Even though appearantly, they confirmed it as canon just before retracting the canonicity before SoL fully resolved.

  • @cherryblossomdrive-by5797
    @cherryblossomdrive-by5797 3 года назад +10

    i would LOVE a breakdown of your thoughts and feelings on the ruination event. your videos often take how i feel about league designs and put them into words, and while i might know how i feel about it generally, there's nothing like having someone validate my opinions and point out the things i missed.
    also, tbskyen singing video? love that little impromptu belting of let it go

  • @quivertheprotogen7905
    @quivertheprotogen7905 3 года назад +11

    I love the idea of the slow changes to a more draconic form as the game progresses. She’s a scaling champion but she sort of lacks the real oomph to feel like a scaling champion. Overhauling her into the same class as Kassadin, or, say, Kayle, would be great. Pitting her against Kayle directly in the story would be a brilliant direction to go with them.

  • @Lyn-757
    @Lyn-757 3 года назад +31

    if riot's doing a mmo, they really need scenarists as comitted as Skyen ( imagination and emotion wise )

  • @ZeekarPRIME
    @ZeekarPRIME 3 года назад +9

    You are *INSANELY* talented man. Your story was insane and your analysis was so incredibly good.

  • @luciusampola
    @luciusampola 3 года назад +38

    I really like TB Skyen's story for how it connects to a theme of questioning the meaning of justice, from the varying perspectives of Jarvan, Shyvana, Garen, Sylas, The Mageseekers and the state of Demacia itself. I feel a symbolic tie to the questions of justice established in Kayle and Morgana's story, it's like a legacy inherited from Demacia's patron aspects.

  • @LunarBlossomYueHua-Art
    @LunarBlossomYueHua-Art 3 года назад +7

    Im totally interested in an analysis of the ruination event! as someone who didn't pay much attention to the story due to friends warning it kinda sucked (rip) I'd be interested in a video like that to understand where/why it went wrong since no one really could explain to me why it wasn't great.
    also, great video again, I love these kind of videos breaking down a stories 'sense' using their own world and themes and just overall analyzing lore and designs.
    Really enjoying the work dude :)

  • @setelf1547
    @setelf1547 3 года назад +6

    Yes, I would love to see what went wrong and your thoughts on the League’s event. I haven’t been keeping up with it and a summary and a breakdown would be awesome! Plus, you explaining it would be a great, fun, and funny, watch.

  • @BenColwell951
    @BenColwell951 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for giving me the inspiration I needed to finish developing the story for my Indie Game. That future segment was exactly what I needed

  • @phnsinrspt
    @phnsinrspt 2 года назад +3

    My biggest complaint about ruined Shyvana is that without context that skin looks like a villain dark elf kind of character, who works halftime job as a special-guard-soldier for the demon king and the other time she cosplays for Tron: Legacy movie, but sleeps so little, that she often mixes the two
    The awful part is that it looks kinda cool, I like it actually, but it doesn't suit both her and her story, like, at all

  • @jiannadavenport8112
    @jiannadavenport8112 3 года назад +9

    It’s always good to hear a fellow Shyvana fan explain the good and the bad about this lovely character. I tried her for the dragon and stayed for her story’s possibilities. I too hope riot will move her forward. Thanks as always for your thoughts and I hope to hear your critique and suggestions for the ruination event.

  • @scarletred616
    @scarletred616 3 года назад +2

    Shyvana probably has an assistant that brings her clothes Everytime she is done in dragon form

  • @TheHumanFlag
    @TheHumanFlag 2 года назад +3

    OH MY GOODNESS!!!
    That future lore was incredible! The writing of it is masterful and it is read so well! We can only hope that Riot sees this and finishes the story that Skyen so well wrought.
    Personally I hope that Jarvan throws his spear through Shyvana’s shackles, leaving him weaponless. In need of Shyvanna’s rescue one more time. Then the next cliffhanger of whether she decides to fly to his rescue or go all Daenerys Targeryen on Demacia.

  • @Sylfaemo
    @Sylfaemo 3 года назад +18

    100% into the sentinels video idea, please do so.
    As for Shyvana, I think a bulkier, Illaoi-like direction would be fun. She is a goddamn dragon after all, why is she 55kg?

    • @itayker22
      @itayker22 3 года назад +2

      I think That does not rule it out.
      An strong illaoi-like character would still considered small and not powefull for a dragon, just because she is human

  • @luigivazdallonder3491
    @luigivazdallonder3491 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for the new vid, SKyen!!! Great as usual. I'd love to listen someone breakdown whatever the hell happened for the Sentinels event to turn out, well... as lackluster as it was. It was something I was very invested in until most of my favorite champions -- Pantheon and Yorick most of all -- got done SO dirty.

  • @ellebee34
    @ellebee34 2 года назад +1

    I want that story to be cannon, it was absolutely incredible! Going back and watching your videos and this might be my favourite so far😍

  • @saithoorihara7445
    @saithoorihara7445 3 года назад +4

    This fanfic sounds so good I really wish someone picks it up there is so much potential !

  • @BiggestGal
    @BiggestGal 3 года назад +1

    This video had inspired me to design my own idea for a Shyvana visual update but I realized by the time I got to where you mentioned the artist you commissioned that the idea I was already getting had already been explored in this video lol.

  • @toniconge7003
    @toniconge7003 3 года назад +3

    OH LORDY THAT STORY WAS SO ENJOYABLE TO LISTEN TO!!! Thank you for giving my spine all the tinglies

  • @digipetz
    @digipetz 3 года назад +8

    Oh my GOD, Skyen, please, please, PLEASE make a stand alone series out of your own imagined takes / audio fanfics for champs like you did w/ Shyv's execution ;;;;;;;;; I'm on my hands and knees, man ; I'll THROW BANDS. I felt so on the edge of my seat as the tension rose!! It's been so long since content of any kind made me feel such a way.

  • @cirrus5791
    @cirrus5791 3 года назад +3

    Dude god tier story telling for the future fanfics. If someone writes this please read it. It was so good

  • @flameofmage1099
    @flameofmage1099 2 года назад +1

    T B Skyen, you are such a good story teller. I think you could have a good video series telling these stories. Also, don't think I didn't notice the Magic: The Gathering card you used. I'd recognize the Selesnya symbol anywhere.

  • @ladyfelwyn9528
    @ladyfelwyn9528 3 года назад +3

    19:18 Sometimes you just get called out. And by "you", Fel absolutely means herself. Like a little too accurate there. Phenomenal video!! It made Fel so happy to see one of her favorite characters getting a "What's the Deal with" video. And whoever reads this- be it viewer or Skyen himself, have a fantastic day =^-^=

    • @itayker22
      @itayker22 3 года назад

      I completely agree!
      Fantastic day to you as well (:

  • @demsterclippy4252
    @demsterclippy4252 3 года назад

    Awesome work as usual Tb. I didn't expect the future segment to be so long but it does do a lot of what I'd want them to do with Sylas and Shyvana

  • @TalkerDudeMan
    @TalkerDudeMan 3 года назад +7

    When you join Viego's team, you get Viego's drip.

  • @halfmoonside
    @halfmoonside 3 года назад +3

    As a world builder my self i would realy like
    analysis of what went wrong with the ruination.

  • @elysilium
    @elysilium 3 года назад +3

    I think a video on the Sentinels event would be great, still topical enough (even though it’s been a few weeks) since it also is the largest event of the year. As a big fan of the lore I was extremely disappointed by the event and I like to hear other people and their perspectives on it. :)

  • @endlessdecay2930
    @endlessdecay2930 3 года назад +2

    TB you gave me chills in your story about this!!! love it keep up the good work

  • @tomm8218
    @tomm8218 3 года назад +19

    for me, Shyvana was and still is lorewise one of the most interesting characters in league, and I am so deeply disappointed in her visual and gameplay design. A half dragon is such a cool concept and it feels just waisted at the moment. But for now, we can only wait for her rework somewhere in 22 or 23.
    And yes, I would love to see/hear your take on the ruination event :)

    • @ghoziakbar6410
      @ghoziakbar6410 3 года назад +1

      Her visual on wild rift character display is amazing, although it's still same for the in game model

  • @chrisphoenix77
    @chrisphoenix77 2 года назад +1

    Ironscale Shyvana is a skin that illustrates what she would be trying to look like for the Demacians.

  • @LadyYumiko95
    @LadyYumiko95 3 года назад +12

    I love how Heimerdingers animations fit to what you're saying.
    Also I hope your idea for Shyvana's future becomes canon and even if it doesn't, it's gonna be my headcanon.

  • @robertyu1012
    @robertyu1012 3 года назад

    Love the video! Just wanted to say the singing at 18:27 was really good ;)

  • @mihaimorar2043
    @mihaimorar2043 3 года назад +9

    "Kindly walk into the sea and stay there." might be my new favorite phrase to come out of this channel

  • @lv4715
    @lv4715 2 года назад +1

    Oh. My. Aurelion. That fan fic idea was so freaking amazing. Makes me want Riot to do a.... half rewrite of the Ruination. Because what happened with Shyvanna could lead to gold, like that fan fic idea. But the event had so much fail.... Riot should rewrite many parts of the event. I dunno exactly what... but an idea i had, (dealing with the fact Riot will have to keep the skins probably, and what Riot solidified as canon currently, Akshan killing Isolde for example) was that Yorick was somewhat of a mentor to Akshan. Since both of them are foils to Viego. Yorick could help develop Akshan's character as a mentor, and perhaps do even more than the Ruination did. But, just an idea.

  • @rogueashes8272
    @rogueashes8272 3 года назад +7

    1. I feel like you should be a writer. Your storytelling is amazing.
    2. I would love to hear you narrate a book or something. I was absolutely transfixed while you were describing that scene and audibly said "bruhhhhhh" when you did that hard cut.

  • @horuho245
    @horuho245 2 года назад

    you tell stories so well you made me invested in the story and then you end on a cliffhanger!

  • @bunny_wilder
    @bunny_wilder 3 года назад +3

    I'd like to watch a video on the Sentinel of Light event. Such a tremendous flop, it's easily the most disectable thing Riot has done, from their intention, their design, and marketing goals, their priorities, and their ambitions.

  • @zoomzoom103
    @zoomzoom103 3 года назад +1

    Never really paid much attention to Shyvana, but this video made me very interested in her story. Also, love your fan fiction, it's so good!

  • @Knoxsinn
    @Knoxsinn 3 года назад +4

    Okay but, Shyvana being exiled by Demacia, her feeling betrayed, and joining the resistance with Sylas. They are at odds and butt heads, but through battles and memories they share together, Shyvana starts to fall for Sylas. He makes her feel accepted for who she is, when that's all she was looking for while taking refuge in Demacia. Then it could play into a love triangle with Jarvin, Shyvana, and Sylas only to find out that behind the scenes Sylas is just that, a smooth talker. He's been abusing Shyvana's affection this whole time. It would be a fun story to play with. Then at the big battle, the truth can come out and Jarvin can get his girl/happy ending; or Shyv still can't forgive Jarvin for the part he played in the mage hunt and relates Sylas' manipulation to that of Viego and her experiences during the Ruination and decides she's a free and independent woman cause fuck men.

  • @gabrielmina441
    @gabrielmina441 3 года назад +1

    Hey TB I know I'm late to the party but about that video on the ruination event, I noticed that Senna's follower in LoR kinda look like they were initially drafts for champion skins. Like the Demacian Sentinel very much looks like a Fiora skin, Dess and Ada look like if jinx was two people each with one gun, and the watcher on the isles has the same body type and vibe as Ryse, the ixtali sentinel seems like a Sivir skin to me.
    So I now have this theory that they were going to be the skins and the characters we get in the event.
    So my head is now filled with what ifs about them, since having them appear in the event instead of the actual champion would have given us more time to delve in the stories of the more important Champions like Senna, Lucian, Gwen, Vayne, Viego, Thresh, Vex, and Yorick Whose lore are already tied to this event.

  • @CadekFenrir
    @CadekFenrir 3 года назад +3

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY DO YOU TEASE ME SO WITH THAT PLOTLINE SKYEN

  • @ThePunkina1
    @ThePunkina1 3 года назад +1

    I love the new part were you explore the possibilities for the lore it's sooooo freaking good

  • @alphamav3rickgaming
    @alphamav3rickgaming 3 года назад +14

    I think it would make more sense if Shyvana linked up with Lux rather than Sylas. Sylas is too anti Demacian and I think that even if she was pushed out she wouldn’t go that far. Rather she would want to work to make a better Demacia which is what Lux is trying to do. It might also make for some interesting stories between the two. Bubbly happy girl and savage pessimistic half dragon.

    • @bluepanda8004
      @bluepanda8004 3 года назад +6

      Agreed also with Sona who is also running from Mage seekers: - pessimistic half dragon, bubbly girl and the mute musician that is a camping dynamic I want to see

    • @TheT7770ify
      @TheT7770ify 3 года назад +1

      I think Shyvana and Lux would have a really interesting character dynamic. Especially with how Lux is a rational thinker but has an optimistic world view and Shyvana is a very emotional thinker with a very rational world view

  • @VenoMantis
    @VenoMantis 3 года назад +1

    Pointless late comment but, great video! This character has honestly grown on me a lot over time. She's old and weird but kind of unique in a way.
    Responding to a very brief part of your video but I think the idea of the weapons is actually kinda cool even if the execution is a bit busy and ugly. I completely vibe with how the asymmetric dragon head design could play into possible animations both for her magical and physical attacks since most of a dragon's 'offense' is what they do with their head (definitely picturing fireball hadoukens). Definitely can help get across her very bizarre gameplay mix of bruiser and mage as well. The current design is a damn mess and the animators really just treated them like spiky brass knuckles but I love the raw idea of them, even if they're a very bizarre and impractical weapon technically.
    Definitely interested in a video on the Sentinels event.

  • @leuclamdoc
    @leuclamdoc 3 года назад +7

    I love your story concept for the future of shyvana, i hope riot does something with her soon as her story is one that comes with a lot of conflict for J4 and his ideas of how demacia is supposed to work. And i would be very interested in your sentinels of light video

  • @cameronpeck5318
    @cameronpeck5318 3 года назад

    I had this video playing in the background and when you got your "what if" "picture this" part I stopped my vanguard strikes and my eyes where fixed to the screen. I really don't think riot will do anything close to that and if they do it will be a few years haha, but it was amazing. Love your storytelling and your content

  • @zheiress9367
    @zheiress9367 3 года назад +4

    Shyvana is my favorite champion in the lore and I appreciate you making this video Skyen. She really deserves the attention especially with having such a precarious and interesting place in current Demacia and even in relation to Jarvan. She could literally act as a lynchpin between whether Demacia continued to sink into it's magic hating bigotry, or forgoing decades of persecution in favor a stronger, more unified Demacia where Shyvana is comfortable retaining that close kinship with Jarvan who'd listen to her on how to treat magical people.

  • @Aramendoa
    @Aramendoa 3 года назад +2

    There was an idea from a mono shyvana called veralion about her kit that on the rework he would like to be able to use her fury before lvl 6 to give her more damage or something like that, it's would work like if you had to recast the ability to waste fury, a think this mechanics would suit really well with your idea of the smooth change on her look

    • @Senyuno
      @Senyuno 3 года назад +2

      I definitely think Gnar is closer to the mechanic Shyvana needs

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 3 года назад +14

    As someone who doesn't play LoL, or really engage with it outside Skyen's content, I find Shyvana's concept neat solely on the basis that I think dragons are neat. Unfortunately, Shyvana looks less like a half-dragon and more like a tiefling with dragonhide armor; her dragon form looks like the first draft of a really neat half-dragon concept, but not a half-dragon who fits into Shyvana's narrative role.
    If Skyen's thoughts for the future actually make it into the lore of the game-if Shyvana and Sylas form some kind of uneasy partnership based on their mutual interests, if the Mageseekers force Jarvan IV to recognize that some of the people they condemn are _people_ like Shyvana, if the Demacian mage genocide actually has some kind of payoff beyond villain motivations and vague angst for the persecutors, Shyvana could be my favorite champion. And also I will eat my hat, because I don't expect Riot to do anything that status-quo-shaking, let alone which forces people to recognize that the heroic good-guy kingdom is actually kinda fascy.
    1:40, 3:20: Interesting how no matter who her dragon parent is, Shyvana always avenges her father.
    4:00: Oh yeah, Demacia wants to kill all magic things, not just the mages. So, yeah, this is your bimonthly "Don't stan Demacia" warning.
    18:50: I want to focus on something _other_ than how terrible Demacia is, but...Demacia's terrible-ness is pretty much all Shyvana has aside from some form of fairly generic parental angst. There's only so much you can do with "My bio-mom killed my dad, so I killed my mom," but the tension between Shyvana wanting to be a Demacian when Demacia can barely tolerate her is interesting!
    32:00: I would also like to read that fanfic.

  • @F4ngel
    @F4ngel 3 года назад +1

    I always thought Shyvana was an escaped Noxian experiment. In my head cannon, Noxus tried to fuse human and dragon with magic to form another living weapon to be chained next to Sion and unleashed in moments of war. They failed to brain wash her into a mindless instrument of war and she flees to Demacia. She isn't a magical being by choice or born with it which was probably why Jarvan took pity on her. This could then lead into the ruined Shyvana skin with her trying live a normal life but has PTSD on the horrid experiments done to her.
    The only thing I had going with this is that her armour is the same colour as Darius', so he probably commissioned the experiment.
    PS: or did she escape? Maybe she only thinks she escaped. Maybe it's all according to plan for Swain.

  • @BunsGlazing768
    @BunsGlazing768 3 года назад +4

    29:05 A heart-wrenching moment in your narration. I am, by the way, one of the last remaining players of AD Shyvana. Like the mages, we are a persecuted and dying breed- so this story means a lot to me. The fates of my favourite champion, the king of Demacia, and his kingdom lie in the balance. Shyvana's fate, both lorewise and in gameplay has often been the subject of my quiet machinations. The tension is unbearable, my heart is pounding.
    But is that a Bad Apple reference?

  • @silverdragonoid
    @silverdragonoid 2 года назад +2

    since the Ruined Shyvana cinematic I've been begging for a small glimpse of Jarvan's reaction to it - maybe he tried to talk to her and get through to her true self, because he knows she's good, but he fails tragically - but no why would we get insight into any of Runeterra's leaders' reaction to the Ruination. I would take fanfiction too, just anything, but I guess I have to do it myself...

  • @chriscrockett1423
    @chriscrockett1423 3 года назад +6

    YES to the analysis of the Sentinels of Light event. How could you even question that we want to see that?!

  • @pianishim0
    @pianishim0 3 года назад +1

    Holy sh*t that "What happens next?" was LOWWWWW, LMFAOOOOO I wasn't even blinking 😳😳😳😳😭
    15/10 would be one of the most amazing stories in the lore.

  • @scottsbarbarossalogic3665
    @scottsbarbarossalogic3665 3 года назад +6

    If Riot wanted to use that Ruined Shyvana skin, the story could have been about Viego manipulating her by making her look more human, and using that as leverage: "Well, you don't help me, you will have to go back looking like a dragon; you certainly would not want to do that, would you?"

  • @wedcaks
    @wedcaks 2 года назад

    I think your design idea is cool, from a gameplay perspective as her bar fills she could become more draconic, ie. 25 fury she grows claws and gains bonus ad or on hit ap dmg, at 50 she gains mr and armour, 75 bonus ap and the dragon ability effects and at 100 can/must transform

  • @noahferny2644
    @noahferny2644 3 года назад +5

    Damn goosebumps from the theoretical story. Love the conflict of demacia and love how sylas could be an antithesis to shyv being and the duality of sylas being more wrathful than the dragon. Really wishing you were a lead writer rn!

  • @NahMate778
    @NahMate778 3 года назад +1

    Wasn't expecting that wonderful singing voice!

  • @jorickthekek2660
    @jorickthekek2660 3 года назад +6

    I was thinking about your idea with as she fights she gets more animalistic or dragon like. Probably can’t go completely through with the hulk thematic in her gameplay due to the exact same thing being used by Gnar but I was thinking the same thing

    • @levwhitelaw5561
      @levwhitelaw5561 3 года назад

      i think there's more game design space than just 'do it like gnar' when it comes to champions transforming in combat. for instance she could transform the long she stays in combat with no cooldown, and go back when she leaves. she could transform the more abilities she hits on champions, making sequencing your abilities properly key, as each ability empowers the others with half-dragon power.

  • @HighPhoenix1754
    @HighPhoenix1754 3 года назад +1

    Partially unrelated, but your redesign of Shyvana actually inspired my next character for a 5e game. Feels more compelling, thank you!

  • @BigDiclas
    @BigDiclas 3 года назад +6

    I WANT LUX IN THIS STORY, FREEING SHYVANA AND HELPING THE OTHERS

    • @Corsharkgaming
      @Corsharkgaming 3 года назад

      No! Lux has her paws on literally every other story thread in Demacia, let any other character have this. Quinn and Shyvana chilling in the woods please.

  • @RGazell
    @RGazell 3 года назад +1

    ooooh i didnt imagine there would a little design commision there! so sad i didnt watch this one when it came out : (

  • @Ganmue
    @Ganmue 3 года назад +6

    About the sentinels video: Yes, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on it

  • @itayker22
    @itayker22 3 года назад +1

    23:33 oh I absolutely LOVE the usage of lol songs as background music! Do it more!

  • @TheBabbager
    @TheBabbager 3 года назад +3

    I'd personally really like a video on the sentinels event. Lord know' riot's not going to give me any kind of catharsis on that dumpster fire, so a meaty video on it sounds like just what I need.

  • @wanderer5389
    @wanderer5389 3 года назад +2

    This is my head cannon: I like to believe that the one who killed J3 was Eveyln, or Shaco I know that it currently looks like LeBlanc is the one that led to his death but I like to believe that as she entered his room (or sent someone to do so) she/they came in to a demon a creature outside of logic killing what to it is just another meal unknowingly sparking a large war (being caughtin the act Eveyln would enter her stealth mkd running from any chance of death beforeshe could even start on her meal) , or in the shaco version of the story he very well knows what he's doing and will cause and he is doing it on purpose (I know he has no lore but I'm using his overview as cannon) and he is leading demacia into this war for his amusement as in its eyes death is hilarious

    • @Osric24
      @Osric24 3 года назад

      Shaco acting on a national stage like that would be a great lore drop

  • @MathewPatrick
    @MathewPatrick 3 года назад +7

    I'd like to see a video about the Sentinels of Light from you. I like your takes on the story.

  • @supernaturalwitch5265
    @supernaturalwitch5265 2 года назад

    You are so good at storytelling like seriously i was invested in the story you were weaving

  • @theahime
    @theahime 3 года назад +4

    Oh my god! Thank you TB for the shoutout! 💖 I was so surprised to hear I was in your video, it's a pleasure! I really appreciate your work 🥰
    Also: About Shyvana being a shapeshifter & wanting to be accepted (Elsa lol) - That's a really good point! I never thought about that 😮 I'm now kinda sad I didn't consider that haha, thank you though for pointing that out! ✨

  • @SylviaMoonbeam1127
    @SylviaMoonbeam1127 3 года назад

    The Trial of Shyvana piece you did… oooooh… it gave me chills!

  • @abrarnoorani8385
    @abrarnoorani8385 3 года назад +3

    I feel like riot missed the perfect opportunity to resolve the demacian mage conflict in Demacia by having Jarvan give mages equal rights in return for help to take back demacia- lux joins garen in the dauntless vanguard, shyvana and jarvan get married and work with xin to manage the region which is in tentative peace, sona travels around to make sure small fights don't break out over demacians slower to accept the changes, sylas can either make reform or continue his rebellion solo

  • @ApexGale
    @ApexGale 3 года назад +3

    I'm not even mad Yorick didn't fight the Ruined King. His primary goal was never to get revenge, it was to lay his home to rest. He didn't need to deal the final blow. But he absolutely should have been a pivotal character, like Gandalf arriving at dawn during the siege at Helm's Deep.
    Please, I'd love to see your Ruination video.