How Reb Beach REALLY plays Seventeen by Winger! Weekend Wankshop 197
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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Hey kids! Its Uncle Ben here, back again with another hair metal gem. After i put up that lesson on the real way to play Lay It Down by Ratt, you all flooded me with requests for a lesson on how Reb Beach REALLY plays Seventeen by Winger, so here you go! This one took a minute to figure out, i tell ya. There's no good tabs for it out there, and pretty much all the lessons i've seen have certain notes in the wrong position and stuff. I found the isolated guitar track and pored over it, plus watched a TON of live Winger footage to double check the positions and stuff, and here we are. Hope ya'll enjoy it, its a dope riff!
Be sure to set yourself an 1/8th note delay around 95 BPM, that is CRITICAL for making this riff sound right. And tune down a half step, of course.
Playing my Suhr Modern White Tiger into my Kemper Profiler into a (you guessed it) Marshall JCM800 Amp Factory profile. As usual.
What other classic riffs do you want to learn next?! let me know in the comments below!
Thank you all for learning the dang right way to play Seventeen by Winger! What do you want to learn next on Weekend Wankshop?
Your gold teeth 2..
Jazzy Steely riff by Denny Dias....
Thanks in advance ...drunken step dad speed brother.......BenJammin'
Dead and Lovely theme song for October pls
Uncle B., great job as usual. I do believe you NAILED IT! Let's stay with the 80s theme and do Extreme - Teacher's Pet. Some of that percussive Nuno playing. Peace.
I'm the one by Van Halen.
Intro riffs or solo
Maybe something from Steel Panther?
You really nailed that riff. Sounded like it was ripped right off the album. I used to like that song.....then I had 4 daughters.
and now your daughters are the subject of the song. send them to me when they're seventeen!
Lmao!! Hilarious bro
@@MetalAaron can tell you don't have any daughters.
Lol no doubt. I have 2 daughters. I found some videos of recent shows where they changed the lyrics. Now "she's only 35" LOL. Edit: It's been a while, I think I saw a week or so, ago, she's in her 40's now (!!!) 😆
@@TheDesertRat31 She'd be 49 this year - was 48 in 2020 on the Monsters of Rock cruise. Kip and Reb are both cool as hell.
Those 80s riffs are so full of life and fun. It needs a revival.
John Gustafsson check out Santa Cruz for a bad ass band with an 80's vibe. The two guitarists shred like hell!💪🤘
John Gustafsson Check Out my band Störmbreaker! We are trying to bring back that 80s sound! We released our debut EP “Pull the Trigger” not too long ago!
@@loganstahlecker Damn you guys rock. Ur song “Heartless” reminds me of 18 and Life by Skid Row haha
@johngustafsson - I don’t mind if some of the highly technical, spirited playing made a bit of a comeback, but the trite subject matter of the lyrics in most ‘80’s rock and metal can stay long dead for all I care.
@@chiptovey6015 are you kidding me? Those lyrics are a teenage and young adult way of life, which is how old most of the guys in these bands were when they wrote it... They are just as relevant, if not more so, than they were 30+ years ago. The anthem decade for living young, wild, and free
“Position by position, Winger was easily one of the most talented rock bands ever, every musician in the band was a badass to the bone virtuoso” -Andy Timmons in Guitar One
And could play circles around any member of Metallica, who, along with Beavis and Butthead, initially ruined their career. I'm a Metallica fan too. Just stating the facts.
Winger may have gotten a lot of flak, in no small part thanks to Beavis and Butthead, but they were much more talented musically than their look might have suggested. Reb has always had INSANE tapping chops, as the solo to this tune clearly demonstrates. He clearly has a knack for writing deceptively difficult riffs, as evidenced by the huge number of inaccurate tabs for this one out there. The off-time rhythm in this one hints at some serious jazz leanings in the rhythm section. Indeed, if any “hair metal” band had a candidate for “most progressive sounding,” Winger would probably be it. Thanks for the riff, Uncle Ben...now do the solo!
woodchuk1 Right! Battlestations killed!
woodchuk1 “position by position, Winger was easily one of the most all around talented rock bands ever, every player in the band was a badass to the bone virtuouso” -Andy Timmons
dealmaven123 Coming from someone as badass as Andy Timmons, that’s quite a compliment! And I agree!
Kyle Adkins I didn’t say anything about the lyrical content. It’s cringeworthy, sure, but that’s not why I listen to this kind of music anyway. I’m not looking to be entertained from the lyrics, much less expecting a literary masterpiece, from any of these bands. The music is what I care about in the end.
woodchuk1 Winger was a Supergroup . Very talented bunch and definitely not deserving of the slagging
This is a big ole skillet full riffs!
Hey Robert. That last sweep picking lesson you did was awesome! Thanks!
Winger is one of those bands that is finally getting the respect they deserve. When Kip said they were the "Dream Theater if Glam Rock" he was right. Reb Beach is insane and songs like Rainbow in the Rose and most of Pull and In the Heart of the Young show just how amazing they were. Don't forget Rod on drums!!!
They were studio musicians who actually looked good. played circles around most bands.
When music was still fun
Indeed... Rod Morgenstein is a Hadassah, and a rare lefty.
One of the hardest parts of playing like Reb is that he taught himself how to play so he doesn't things in very unorthodox ways especially his tap arpeggios. I taught myself as well much like Reb did and his stuff really was fun to play.
One of the best solo breaks of the era, as well! Reb just killed it on this song🤘😎🤘
We need a "Play With Me" from Extreme Weekend Wankshop.
That would be very cool!!!
I saw these guys play over memorial day weekend. It was a great show and I was dying laughing when Kip sang "she's only 48" (yes that math works out too). Good times
lol nice!!!
Ben Breard lol he's got a great sense of humor!
I always sung. Shes only 13
And crying Jamie is an old bag now.
She's only sevennnnty!
One of my fav riffs. Winger is better than people think
Your lesson saved me. Was looking at tabs and watching lessons and it couldn’t get anything going. Yours is spot on and it made the riff so much easier than other wacky ways people played this.
Up all night by Slaughter.
It is such a clean and sustaining tone.
He's playing a Suhr guitar too, just like Reb.
Ben, I’ve been waiting a long time to find this riff the right way and I really struggled with it, Thanks So Much Buddy 🎸😎
Oooof! This ones fun! I might have lost one of my little paw pads with all the shuffling. 🐾😹
If you play it with down strokes, it becomes Ratt Lay it Down,. 😂. Nice job Ben
Ratt riffs then Winger? OH YEAH! \M/
Nice! Reb Beach totally under rated player. How about the solo for this one? Nice job on the riff and thanks for sharing!
Saw Winger live during their tour for their 2nd album and again just a couple years ago. They are still every bit as good if not better, than back in the day. Reb was/is light years ahead of the guitar players of the other bands that Winger was unfairly lumped in with. And neither Kip nor the band in general, NEVER received any of the musical respect they truly deserved, IMO.
Dude please do the “hanging on” riffs
5150 by van Halen!!!!!!! great riffing and Amsterdam VH!
Awesome video. Thanks Uncle Ben
Wow.. At first I thought you were just playing the album. Sounds identical. Thanks for the lesson.
Thanks man. Your lesson helped me. Im not a perfect guitar player and I've always struggled with this one. 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Dude you totally saved me! I was just trying to play this using only the tab and my ears, and it was not going well. Clunky and slow. Then I opened your video and bam! First magic tip was the up stroke on the chord strumming throughout the entire riff. That totally made it fall into place rhythmically. Then the finger positioning for the bar chords on the 7th and 5th frets with that little note on the G string of the 11th fret with the pinky. And of course the end of the riff on the 3rd position. I would NEVER have figured all this out. Thanks for saving me (and others) from learning this song all wrong like I often do with these tough ones. You have really provided a service to the guitar world for people wanting to learn these cool riffs.
This is my favorite riff ever, thank you so much!!
Definitely a riff that gives yu goosies excellent video yu r dialed in!!!!Ben.
You're a legend.
Ben, you give stellar lessons! Of the many out there doing lessons, I always find yours to be top notch. Thank you so much!
Please do a lesson on “cutting loose” by Reb Beach that was the intro to his guitar instructional video!!!
Very good instruction video. I really appreciate the tips of sound settings. Most won't tell how to set it up. Thanks again.
Love Winger and you nailed this song as well as the sound perfectly. Thanks for sharing this awesome video.
Your tone description and delay explanation has been my base tone for years now. Great vid man.
Part B Please my girlfriend said she would leave me if i didnt learn it!
Killer lesson. Reb Beach is one of my favorites players. thanks for the lesson Ben
Nice Steve vai picture/album on the wall. Was lucky enough to see him live a couple of years ago- amazing, moving too. Great video
Been waiting for this one Uncle Ben! Well done!
I remember you posting a fingerstyle arrangement of a Tom Petty's Learning to Fly after he passed away last year. Since the anniversary of his passing is coming up, I think it would be a perfect candidate for Weekend Wankshop!
Been waiting for this for pretty much 10 years xD
Thanks every time I would play this it just didn't sound right. Intro has a really nice groove to it.
It’s an amazing riff with an amazing feel
And it will live forever .
Reb must have been really pleased when he came up with this bad ass lick. The lyrics , the song was in good fun. Back when life was fun. And so was music.
This is awesome, Ben. Thank you so much!
I really enjoyed the way you broke down the song. Great job!
Thank you, Uncle Ben! You make learning fun and easy!
Thank You uncle Ben! I learned this riff wrong from online tabs...lol
Thanks uncle Ben!🎸😎 this kicks ass! Luv it ! Still practicing, I really appreciate it
Yaaassa
Didnt expect to see you here
@@calebb.56 Didn't expect to see you here
@@nolandmiller6593 Didn’t expect to see you here
@@christianrubi6865 I expected to see you here
Great video. This has always been such a difficult riff for me to get. Thanks for making an accurate video of how to play this suprisenly difficult guitar riff. You're awesome 🤘
Great job as always sir, now time for some Ratt, Lay it Down 👍🏽
Try this: ruclips.net/video/AdPFqnebqXc/видео.htmlsi=_uwPbLNrBK7XhkPA
And this: ruclips.net/video/SCl23zTlBBs/видео.htmlsi=wa82OreSKGgzEg35
Very accurate and clean friend
Watched a video last night where Reb said “100% of the people get that wrong” and it’s wrong here too 😀
Reb beach is very underrated!!!
This is awesome, how can it have 28 dislikes? WTF?
How about doing Wingers "your great escape" off winger IV. i think it's one of their best songs and a killer riff.
I'm lovin' Ben covering these wonderful 80s songs that had intricate rhythm guitar parts. For example, I love Scorpions but Rock You Like a Hurricane is not a song that EVER needs to be gone over by any guitar player. But songs that had wonderful rhythm guitarists that were also awesome lead guitarists (George Lynch, Warren DeMartini, and obviously Reb Breach and even more) are so fun to explore even some ~35 years later. LOVE IT!
:-)
Sounds fantastic! Thanks Ben
Great lesson man. Great song. I saw them live back when Reb was sponsored by Ibanez and playing the same at a rock show at an outdoor venue here in Indiana and it was with bullet boys first, the winger, then cinderella and it was just a great show. Winger should get more love. Been watching ya for awhile. Subscribed. Thanks man..
Great work my friend!
Reb Beach is a fkn SHREDDER!
PLEAAAASEEEE DO THE SOLO TOO!!!
I know I'm late to the party, but I just started to learn this ,interesting about the delay. I was close but I wasn't happy with what I had. until now ,you just explained it all .Thank you Uncle Ben:-)
Inspiring to pickup a 6 string again! Hats off, good videos!
Awesome dude.
Great job! That's perfect!
UB...you are bad ass!!!...a song that always escaped me is "tell me what you want" by Zebra....never could figure that one out.....thanks for the great lessons!!!
I remember trying to learn that and accidentally learned the riffs to Scared and Inside Out while messing around with it. Great tune. Solo shreds
Great stuff ! Great tone!
You're wicked awesome bro!!
I’ve always loved that song. It’s a great song actually.
Very cool! Very cool!
Nailed it!!! Love it!
I have a serious problem with your channel! Your teaching and content is so awesome that i want to learn everything you have. The problem is I’ve only recently subscribed so I’m struggling with absorbing all your awesomeness! Darn you uncle Ben!!!!
Very nice .
Would love to learn the solo as well .
Perfect!! Note for note!! Only if I had this tab back in the days, I’d have a wife by now 😂
gamma105, would she be 17?
ctusser no way!
AWESOME! You did a fantastic job!
One of my all time fav songs. Still love the hair bands!
Lol and so many people say "Hair metal bands of the 80's don't even have talent, it's all about their looks"...Umm yea, except some of those guitarists are EXTREMELY talented. This riff reminds me of the intro/main riff of 'Lay It Down' by Ratt. 🤘
Absolutely amazing then
thanks for clarifying this riff. I have always thought the riff to be one of the coolest riffs next to Round and Round by Ratt.
I learned how to play this song from a Guitar Player magazine in the 80's. What you showed was way different (and seemingly much easier) than what the Tab showed of the song. Wish I would have seen this 30 years ago. Never felt right playing the tabbed version I was playing. Was close, but never sounded quite right. Thanks for the video. Might just have to dust off the old Strat and give it another go.
Excellent riff Ben!!! I would fall over backwards for some George Lynch, esp. "It's not love" or "In my dreams." Rock on!!
OK, let's get a bit heavier, eh? How about Liar from Megadeth?!?!? Uncle Ben rules!!!!
Great pick, well done! Thanks!
80s hair bands are still my fav
Loved this tune when it came out. Thanks for sharing! (yea... I'm that old, lol)
I often wonder about the people who give vids a thumbs down? I mean, what's not to like here? You nailed it.
Unless they just don't like this song, I guess. I loved the riffs and Reb's solos and tapping style. He taps more in line with a solo than just the usual triplets you normally here. Anyway great job on this, Uncle Ben (as usual)
Nice work my friend - you're spot on - most all of the internet tabs are indeed wrong...thanks kindly !!
On another great lesson...reb actually made a video on RUclips for nstuff music which taught how to play it correctly. But nstuff music made it private. I should have downloaded before that happened. Great video
Thanks for sharing this is great
Ok...now tackle the SOLOS!
They are nuts.
Uncle Ben that sounded fuckin awesome
Good stuff bro. This is one of my favorite songs of the 80's. I tried my hand at being a rock star in the 80's and haven't picked up a guitar since 93 when the world turned to grunge and all the women started wearing baggy jeans and lumberjack shirts. I decided to pick it up again, and this is the song I wanted to tackle first so thank you:)
Grunge killed 80s rock then the c sucker Cobain offed himself
Nice lesson.....can you do a lesson from Montrose...Rock the nation ?
Thank you man for doin what you do. 👍
a lesson on Giants time to burn intro would be cool
Nick Crompton Dann Huff is a monster!
Sounds just like the record, damn. You are the man, Ben! "Slip Of The Tongue" or anything else with Steve Vai in Whitesnake would be pretty cool for you to put through the Uncle Ben Microscope. Awesome content, love your stuff :D Edit: You do love your JCM800 preset! HAHAHAHAHA Can't blame you, though. JCMs are awesome, badass, beautiful, tried-and-true tone machines, can't go wrong with them.
Yeah.. Very accurate
Jcm 800 2205 is a great rock amp. Not to much gain. And i never used to like them. But i was doing one song for a benefit show. Song was stairway to heaven. I did the live version thru a jcm800 2205 in the studio.. And man it was so perfect. I rented the head for the show to do the one song. Now im looking for an original jcm800 2205
Hey Uncle Ben! How about Hall of the Mountain King?
Brent Matsumoto yes!
Strange wings too!
Sirens and Power Of The Night would both be awesome as well!
I did a full playthrough for Strange Wings and I've transcribed the entire Savatage catalog.
Strange Wings: ruclips.net/video/e4V4RiGSLdc/видео.html
All of my Savatage videos: ruclips.net/p/PLNYXfMfhF-A_zphkudwTQJEe_jBXPZhk1
@@EvanBradleyTranscriptions Thanks, buddy👍
This song came up last night, and so I went lookin. Imagine my joy when I saw my always-detail-obsessed uncle on the case. Woot.