I got a full X-Pan II Kit from my Grandfather and I love it! He bought it in 2003 when it was introduced and then gifted it to me 1,5 Years ago. Its a complete set with all 3 lenses and all Boxes and Papers.
If I wasn't a portrait shooter I'd say it's in my top 3 :P As of now my "cannot justify buying it but God I need one" is the Leaf Aptus 10 digital back :P
I was fortunate enough to borrow an XPan for a time and I completely agree about your opinion on the 90mm. It just felt the most natural to my eye in panoramic mode. In standard 36x24 mode it did feel a bit restrictive but shooting portraits with the 90mm in panoramic mode was wholly satisfying. Great review as always!
I'm happy I've bought this camera years ago when the prices were much different. I've checked immediately if the switch was working (which did) and then it stayed in panorama mode ever since :-) I use it mostly with the 45mm lens but I have also the 90mm and it really "saved" the day when I needed to exlude something from the composition, and at a wide aperture is still really sharp. Very nice video, I like the B-roll and the use of the lights, really well done.
Have had mine for about 2 years now. Don't use it nearly enough as I would want too but still one of the only cameras I would pay current marketprice for in a heartbeat. I currently have pretty much every camera anybody could want and the XPan is still one of the only ones that always makes shooting interesting. Had a Noblex PRO 6/150 for a while a few weeks back but didn't like the distortion it created. I should definitely take out the 90mm a lot more though.
Adapters for using 35mm film in medium format cameras are cheap and readily available. What advantage is there in this camera when 45mm, 60mm and 90mm widths are all easy options? Plus with the medium format adapter you get the image in the sprocket holes, too.
Really nice set of XPan videos, thanks. Shot one roll through a demo body 20 years ago. Decided against buying it at the time, but I never fully escaped the desire to own one.
Whats up Matt, great to see a full review of this, great different color accent lighting on the set, also you left side of your mustache being cut off gives you finally some street cred :)
Great review as always Matt! That picture of Molly is beautiful, and it was interesting for sure to see how you used a different focal length than you usually do to deal with all the distractions that can come into play when shooting such a wide format. Great work, stay safe!
I know it will never happen but Fuji needs to remake the XPAN in digital format. 90 looks sweet but 30 has its moments and would be perfect for landscapes.
Thanks for the review and I agree with many of your points. What I see from many xpan shooters is that they actually don’t really use the frame they get with such camera and many pictures had 20 to 30% of the frame that was not really used, which makes you question why using such camera. Each time I see an xpan picture now, I ask myself can I crop something away.
If you're looking for an alternative to shoot this format, you can get a Bronica ETRSi, panoramic back, and a couple of lenses for less than $1000. You definitely won't have the same experience, and it may be difficult to find the back and focus screen, but it's definitely cheaper.
I have this set-up! Honestly it's pretty flawless, and it's an SLR setup so great for nailing the (Panoramic) composition as opposed to a rangefinder. And because the system is modular, parts are replaceable. Granted I need to use it a lot more to justify keeping it, but it's much better value and more versatile (camera overall)
If you have a medium format camera you can make your own I made a video explaining how if you want to check it out ruclips.net/video/xNyM8am0aiQ/видео.html
Xpan is nice and so is Fuji TX-1 (which can be found cheaper)! But for today's price I would go for Mamiya 6 or Fuji GW and mask the negative to pano ratio. Or shoot 35mm in those :)
I used to own a full XPII kit. It was a great camera, but at the end of the day it's electronic and electronics eventually fail. As the price of the kit skyrocketed I simply couldn't justify holding on to it knowing that it would give up on me eventually and either become a very expensive repair or door stop.
You can make your own if you have a medium format camera I made a little video on how to do it if you want to see how ruclips.net/video/xNyM8am0aiQ/видео.html
Definitely agree on the 90mm comment; I have the Fuji G617, a medium format panoramic camera. It has a 105mm lens that's equivalent to like 21mm on the longside. I wish I had the GX617 with the longer focal length instead. Makes me wonder with the price of the X Pan, is it more worth it to get a secondhand GFX 50R and shoot it in the cropped panoramic mode?
its not just about the resolution, you SEE and shoot differently when you go panoramic only. you can shoot panoramic on other medium format cameras too but its mostly static shots. but for street, quick shots etc its better to see panoramic and compose accordingly. i am pretty certain resoution-wise thx gfx will do fine compared to something like maybe ektachrome or ektar in the xpan
Haha. In the beginning i was very confused because I thought you’d say sponsored by squaredace. Guess I have been watching too many RUclips videos lately :D
Hey Matt, the increased width in panorama mode means you're exposing a larger piece of film. But, only in one dimension. Does this still make it a medium format film size? I mean is 90mm still 90mm or can you now say it is xx mm in 35mm equivalent focal length? Do photos taken on the larger piece of film gain that medium format look?
I wouldn't spend the money on it even though I think it is super cool. Much more worthy of the cash (if you have it) than a lot of the crappy cameras I see people way over paying for.
It’s a great video Matt with great photo! BUT, given the fact that this camera is pretty much unavailable - around 20 ebay offers in the world, so less than 0.02% of your subscribers could get it, let alone afford it - it would be more interesting to hear from you what other alternatives are available. OR, how to achieve this perspective and look with digital. That’s a challenge, isn’t it? :-) Cheers mate!
two words: medium format. The one thing you'll need to get this aspect ratio in digital format would be the Fujifilm GFX 50s. It has a built-in crop setting for 65:24 which is the exact same ratio as the xpan. Granted, you'd be cropping the image to get the look, however, you're not losing much quality given that you're using a medium format sensor. There's the Hasselblad X1D as well, and there are adapters you can use for the xpan line of lenses. This camera also has a crop setting for the xpan's ratio. The setting is even called xpan. Now, both cameras are pretty expensive, almost as much as the xpan's on ebay. But, at least you'll have a camera that will last you for the next 10 years (at least), unlike the xpan which is already an decaying system (with almost no parts available for repair). I'd rather spend $8000+ on a system that will be around for another decade or more than spend the same amount on a camera that'll make a very nice looking brick in a couple of years. Sadly, there aren't many film alternatives (or at all). There are some medium format cameras that also have an adapter mask for 35mm (like the Bronica ETRSi), but those are also hard to find. Hope this helped :-)
Nice review Matt, thanks for making content for us. I just picked up a pano kit for my Mamiya 7 (haven't had a chance to use it yet though)...it's definitely a cheaper route than the x-pan since I already have the camera. Any plans on picking up a Mamiya 6 pano kit for yourself?
Yes, I know it's not film it's digital, but for the same price you can get a Fuji GFX50 or the Hassy X1D for the same price and they both can shoot the 65:24 aspect ratio.
the best of cameras, the worst of cameras. I wrote a very long review of it here. www.35mmc.com/07/04/2018/hasselblad-xpan-fulfilling-vision/. Great video. I was interested to hear your thoughts on the lenses. I have always lusted after the 30mm, but could never find the money to buy it. I owned the 90 briefly, but it had a flaw and I had to return it. I might try and pick up the 90mm again, one of these days...
Hey Matt, could I get the same cinematic feel and ratio by running 35 mm through my Fuji GW690II? Love these shots and if I won the lottery then I'd buy an x-pan but that's not likely.
This and the G2 are the cameras that I never pulled the trigger. Personally I ended up buying a Mamiya 7 with Pano adapter for the panoramic job. Matt, how do you like the hasselblad´s lens performance? I love the mamiya 7 with 150mm and pano adapter for tight frames. I just got sent in a 6x17 shenhao back for my 4x5 camera, shot a roll with it this morning and can´t wait to develop the pictures
I would really love a 6x17 back that had its own shutter though :P The back itself is amazing, but I'd love to be able to use it with my fav lenses for portraits :(
@@KNURKonesur I tried to use my 210mm and 300mm with the 6x17 back. The image you get is 6x15, wide but not 6x17 wide, but again wide enough. Not bad at all making panoramic portrait with a 300mm lens
How different is this to large format 6x17 film backs or medium format 6x17 Matt? Just had a look on eBay, these are super expensive on our current exchange rate and could rather invest in an 8x10 and have change.
Consider the price of film. In the UK it's very difficult to get 8x10 film and then it's very expensive per sheet and very expensive to develop. 6x17cm film is not that bad cause you can still buy 120 format film kinda cheap, and definitely even cheaper with 135 format film.
Cool camera but it's just waiting to die with no prospect of recovery. If it was repairable and didn't cost $4000 I'd love to have one. A few months back one of these sold on a Goodwill auction for around $4,000 and it was untested.
You can get the xpan look on digital (Sony aps-c & Fuji) with new anamorphic lenses that were released that don't cost a fortune. Sorry I can't find the link I'm in the hospital about to have heart surgery & the WiFi is slow.
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XPAN-sive as f!!!
hahaha yes it is.
I got a full X-Pan II Kit from my Grandfather and I love it! He bought it in 2003 when it was introduced and then gifted it to me 1,5 Years ago. Its a complete set with all 3 lenses and all Boxes and Papers.
That's very cool! Now go and shoot some cool stuff with it :D
@@KNURKonesur No no, stay home and be safe.
You are SO LUCKY to have such a cool grandpa!!
What a dope snag
Beautiful gift
My ultimate "cannot justify buying it but good God I need one" camera right here.
If I wasn't a portrait shooter I'd say it's in my top 3 :P As of now my "cannot justify buying it but God I need one" is the Leaf Aptus 10 digital back :P
KNUR Konesur Nice, Is that to go on an rz67?
Same here, exactly what im thinking. I need one as well
exactly how i feel!
I like how calm you talk, makes me wanna listen even though I have ADHD. Thanks for sharing your experience.
This cam has always been waaaaay up on my must get list. It is so dope. Thanks for the super informative video.
I was fortunate enough to borrow an XPan for a time and I completely agree about your opinion on the 90mm. It just felt the most natural to my eye in panoramic mode. In standard 36x24 mode it did feel a bit restrictive but shooting portraits with the 90mm in panoramic mode was wholly satisfying. Great review as always!
I'm happy I've bought this camera years ago when the prices were much different. I've checked immediately if the switch was working (which did) and then it stayed in panorama mode ever since :-)
I use it mostly with the 45mm lens but I have also the 90mm and it really "saved" the day when I needed to exlude something from the composition, and at a wide aperture is still really sharp.
Very nice video, I like the B-roll and the use of the lights, really well done.
Have had mine for about 2 years now. Don't use it nearly enough as I would want too but still one of the only cameras I would pay current marketprice for in a heartbeat. I currently have pretty much every camera anybody could want and the XPan is still one of the only ones that always makes shooting interesting. Had a Noblex PRO 6/150 for a while a few weeks back but didn't like the distortion it created. I should definitely take out the 90mm a lot more though.
Your 90mm shots really stand out. Awesome work!
Adapters for using 35mm film in medium format cameras are cheap and readily available. What advantage is there in this camera when 45mm, 60mm and 90mm widths are all easy options? Plus with the medium format adapter you get the image in the sprocket holes, too.
Really nice set of XPan videos, thanks. Shot one roll through a demo body 20 years ago. Decided against buying it at the time, but I never fully escaped the desire to own one.
They should bring out a 2021 version I'm sure they would sell well and in digital form with the panoramic feature would be awsome
Whats up Matt, great to see a full review of this, great different color accent lighting on the set, also you left side of your mustache being cut off gives you finally some street cred :)
Thanks Matt. I suppose I’ll take my 90mm out of the box and give it a go. I’ve only used mine a couple time, but now I’m interested. Take care man.
Got extremely lucky to buy my kit before prices went crazy. All I will say is that the Xpan with cinestill 50D is Magic !
a lot of fantastic photos in this episode.
Great review as always Matt! That picture of Molly is beautiful, and it was interesting for sure to see how you used a different focal length than you usually do to deal with all the distractions that can come into play when shooting such a wide format. Great work, stay safe!
Would never have considered buying this camera but loved your review! Might even want to try it out now 🙄
Dude, the studio space is looking dope! 👌🏼
Even if the world goes the way of Mad Max and we ended up using TP as currency, I still wouldn't be able to afford this. Great shots, Matt!
I know it will never happen but Fuji needs to remake the XPAN in digital format. 90 looks sweet but 30 has its moments and would be perfect for landscapes.
The gfx cameras can do a xpan aspect ratio crop
I’d love to see what the images would look like if you ran a roll of cinestill
through this
YESS this is the perfect cam for that
I’ll just have to settle for a panoramic 30x60mm mask for the Hasselblad 503cx back. However I will remember to use my 150mm
Thanks for the review and I agree with many of your points. What I see from many xpan shooters is that they actually don’t really use the frame they get with such camera and many pictures had 20 to 30% of the frame that was not really used, which makes you question why using such camera. Each time I see an xpan picture now, I ask myself can I crop something away.
Thanks for another honest review
I’ve started using The Darkroom and it’s just so good!
4:54 - 5:25 RUclips compression did awful things to some photos because of "white noise" background :(
Love the videos Matt. Definitely waiting on the rf 70-200 review
Really really want one of these. Great vid.
Man how I miss my Ektar 25 film..
If you're looking for an alternative to shoot this format, you can get a Bronica ETRSi, panoramic back, and a couple of lenses for less than $1000. You definitely won't have the same experience, and it may be difficult to find the back and focus screen, but it's definitely cheaper.
I have this set-up! Honestly it's pretty flawless, and it's an SLR setup so great for nailing the (Panoramic) composition as opposed to a rangefinder. And because the system is modular, parts are replaceable. Granted I need to use it a lot more to justify keeping it, but it's much better value and more versatile (camera overall)
cropped 4.5x6 is way smaller than X-Pan
I wish i gotten this camera when their prices were lower.
yeah, timetravel to 2005...
Yeah I remember they were quite affordable... But now the prices are ridiculous!
Wait until the potential recession later into the summer. Prices of non-essential hobbies items usually see a hit.
If you have a medium format camera you can make your own
I made a video explaining how if you want to check it out
ruclips.net/video/xNyM8am0aiQ/видео.html
Seriously
that's cool but it would be cooler if you put more photos from the x pan into the video. i wanna see your work with it!
Xpan is nice and so is Fuji TX-1 (which can be found cheaper)! But for today's price I would go for Mamiya 6 or Fuji GW and mask the negative to pano ratio. Or shoot 35mm in those :)
I used to shoot some 35mm film with my Pentax 6x7 some years ago and it worked great :D
Ahhh, the X-Pan... my dream camera I never want to own.
I kinda feel the same :D I really want it... But I really have no use for it.
Did you play leading role in Narcos Mexico ?
Was just wondering if we’re going to be seeing a canon f1 review at some point?
in my youtube app there is an F1 review of him right on top of the list.
I used to own a full XPII kit. It was a great camera, but at the end of the day it's electronic and electronics eventually fail. As the price of the kit skyrocketed I simply couldn't justify holding on to it knowing that it would give up on me eventually and either become a very expensive repair or door stop.
I loved the colors and compositions. The problem is that parts are starting to become rarer.
I really want one so bad since seeing the first video you made, but never gotta the courage to pull the trigger on that price tag...
You can make your own if you have a medium format camera I made a little video on how to do it if you want to see how
ruclips.net/video/xNyM8am0aiQ/видео.html
What a beautiful brick.
I lust for one
Lovely video, god I want an XPAN!
Definitely agree on the 90mm comment; I have the Fuji G617, a medium format panoramic camera. It has a 105mm lens that's equivalent to like 21mm on the longside. I wish I had the GX617 with the longer focal length instead. Makes me wonder with the price of the X Pan, is it more worth it to get a secondhand GFX 50R and shoot it in the cropped panoramic mode?
its not just about the resolution, you SEE and shoot differently when you go panoramic only. you can shoot panoramic on other medium format cameras too but its mostly static shots. but for street, quick shots etc its better to see panoramic and compose accordingly. i am pretty certain resoution-wise thx gfx will do fine compared to something like maybe ektachrome or ektar in the xpan
Happy Birthday Everyone.
Hey Matt, did you try shooting it at all with the standard 35mm aspect ratio?
Haha. In the beginning i was very confused because I thought you’d say sponsored by squaredace. Guess I have been watching too many RUclips videos lately :D
Great video Matt
I misread "review" as "return" and I was excited for 2 seconds...
Hey Matt, the increased width in panorama mode means you're exposing a larger piece of film. But, only in one dimension. Does this still make it a medium format film size? I mean is 90mm still 90mm or can you now say it is xx mm in 35mm equivalent focal length? Do photos taken on the larger piece of film gain that medium format look?
I wouldn't spend the money on it even though I think it is super cool. Much more worthy of the cash (if you have it) than a lot of the crappy cameras I see people way over paying for.
Better value for money than almost any Leica :P
KNUR Konesur true.
It’s a great video Matt with great photo! BUT, given the fact that this camera is pretty much unavailable - around 20 ebay offers in the world, so less than 0.02% of your subscribers could get it, let alone afford it - it would be more interesting to hear from you what other alternatives are available. OR, how to achieve this perspective and look with digital. That’s a challenge, isn’t it? :-) Cheers mate!
two words: medium format.
The one thing you'll need to get this aspect ratio in digital format would be the Fujifilm GFX 50s. It has a built-in crop setting for 65:24 which is the exact same ratio as the xpan. Granted, you'd be cropping the image to get the look, however, you're not losing much quality given that you're using a medium format sensor.
There's the Hasselblad X1D as well, and there are adapters you can use for the xpan line of lenses. This camera also has a crop setting for the xpan's ratio. The setting is even called xpan.
Now, both cameras are pretty expensive, almost as much as the xpan's on ebay. But, at least you'll have a camera that will last you for the next 10 years (at least), unlike the xpan which is already an decaying system (with almost no parts available for repair). I'd rather spend $8000+ on a system that will be around for another decade or more than spend the same amount on a camera that'll make a very nice looking brick in a couple of years.
Sadly, there aren't many film alternatives (or at all). There are some medium format cameras that also have an adapter mask for 35mm (like the Bronica ETRSi), but those are also hard to find.
Hope this helped :-)
I've wanted to use this camera for years
I want a print of that reflected light over the road.
Would be cool to have a go of this ☺️ great video, as ever ✌️
Nice review Matt, thanks for making content for us. I just picked up a pano kit for my Mamiya 7 (haven't had a chance to use it yet though)...it's definitely a cheaper route than the x-pan since I already have the camera. Any plans on picking up a Mamiya 6 pano kit for yourself?
This camera is the el dorado of film photographers
Why? It's not very good for portraits e.g. :P
This is my dream camera! But its so expensive and I need to get better at shooting film first!
Yes, I know it's not film it's digital, but for the same price you can get a Fuji GFX50 or the Hassy X1D for the same price and they both can shoot the 65:24 aspect ratio.
You can also buy any 6x7cm film camera and shoot even wider with a simple modification... And save the rest of the money for something useful :P
Sadly a potential xpan-sive brick. Such an amazing tool!
That static background ain’t doing it for me. Thanks for the video.
@3:45 ~The protective glass with rubber rim of your 30mm viewfinder is lost ?
the best of cameras, the worst of cameras. I wrote a very long review of it here. www.35mmc.com/07/04/2018/hasselblad-xpan-fulfilling-vision/. Great video. I was interested to hear your thoughts on the lenses. I have always lusted after the 30mm, but could never find the money to buy it. I owned the 90 briefly, but it had a flaw and I had to return it. I might try and pick up the 90mm again, one of these days...
you could use the PC-Nikkor 28mm f/4 (with an adapter)
The ultimate dream camera that I'll never own. The risk of it being a very (very) expensive brick is just too high!
you can still get them CLAd / Fixed
in this age, is there any digital equivalent in industry for xpan features..?
whats the scan resolution of a Xpan neg? 40mp?
Hey Matt, could I get the same cinematic feel and ratio by running 35 mm through my Fuji GW690II? Love these shots and if I won the lottery then I'd buy an x-pan but that's not likely.
I did just that with mine I made a video showing how if you care to check it out
ruclips.net/video/xNyM8am0aiQ/видео.html
Looked "down below" in the description... no link to the first vid. :(
Man. I wish people would do a video on Canon FT's, so I can sell mine for more than it's worth.... Ah well, maybe next month.
This and the G2 are the cameras that I never pulled the trigger. Personally I ended up buying a Mamiya 7 with Pano adapter for the panoramic job. Matt, how do you like the hasselblad´s lens performance? I love the mamiya 7 with 150mm and pano adapter for tight frames. I just got sent in a 6x17 shenhao back for my 4x5 camera, shot a roll with it this morning and can´t wait to develop the pictures
I would really love a 6x17 back that had its own shutter though :P The back itself is amazing, but I'd love to be able to use it with my fav lenses for portraits :(
@@KNURKonesur I tried to use my 210mm and 300mm with the 6x17 back. The image you get is 6x15, wide but not 6x17 wide, but again wide enough. Not bad at all making panoramic portrait with a 300mm lens
Did you know any Widelux camera ?
xpan’s main characteristic：expensive
The head won't miss it but the heart will....
I want the 30, but it cost more than I paid for both my xpan cameras.
How different is this to large format 6x17 film backs or medium format 6x17 Matt? Just had a look on eBay, these are super expensive on our current exchange rate and could rather invest in an 8x10 and have change.
Consider the price of film. In the UK it's very difficult to get 8x10 film and then it's very expensive per sheet and very expensive to develop. 6x17cm film is not that bad cause you can still buy 120 format film kinda cheap, and definitely even cheaper with 135 format film.
Can I borrow it?
Cool camera but it's just waiting to die with no prospect of recovery. If it was repairable and didn't cost $4000 I'd love to have one. A few months back one of these sold on a Goodwill auction for around $4,000 and it was untested.
it's also known as Fujifilm xt-1 (and 2)
other way round. Tx not xt
@@stzef right, a typo sry
That shot at 5:22 tho.
90mm in panoramic mode is a 50mm lens...
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hasselblad xpan.
or in other words, the only reason to sell your soul to devil
The Darkroom tour: ruclips.net/video/XaYh8iScRQg/видео.html
You can get the xpan look on digital (Sony aps-c & Fuji) with new anamorphic lenses that were released that don't cost a fortune.
Sorry I can't find the link I'm in the hospital about to have heart surgery & the WiFi is slow.
Amazing camera! So, how many kidneys does it cost?
You SOB I'm so jealous lol