Watched quite a few videos from you now, and now a few of these talks. Learn a lot every single time. I don’t know how you are less than 30K subscribers, but I’m liking and sharing them all. I’ve watched plenty of videos and man yours are a cut above on so many levels. Thanks so much for all you share.
I admit I knew pretty much nothing about Harleys prior to this year.. other than that I really like them.. but I have learned a lot from this channel and others like it… so glad for this type of content
I had the privilege of learning a little about straight vs helical cut gears from a man who was on the team who designed the GM TH400 and TH350 transmissions when I worked as a builder back in the day. He explained the reason they went to straight cut gears was on dump trucks they were eating the rear planetary gears up and thought they needed the greater surface area to strengthen them up, but the real problem turned out to be the helical cut ones had a horrible thrust force on the back, and would starve the back bushing for oil, and burn it and the planetary up. What I am wondering is why nobody has developed a mod for the primary chain, which is basically the same size as a large timing chain. Seems it is the weak link, and replacing it with a gear-to-gear option would bullet-proof it, but make it loud, as you would need to add 3 straight-cut gears between the crank and clutch basket and avoid helical because of the thrust they create to the sides.
2004 fatboy 5 speed. Changed transmission pully from 32 to 34, dropped RPMs at hwy, didn't notice any lag in the lower gears. Best thing I ever did. 95 inch with andrews 26. Poor man's overdrive.
My Uncle passed last week and left me his seventies something Hardtail panhead. As was his custom every couple of years he would take it apart and put it back together well he was unable to complete it before he passed. We talked about getting together to really make this bike gleam but never got around to it. I'm learning a lot from your videos keep holding up the parts and explaining what they are and where they go. this week im purchasing a mechanics manual online but i'll keep watching. thanks for the videos.
I'm sorry for your loss sir...but man what a story you have with that bike. Those are the best bikes to have. I appreciate you sharing your story. Please continue to do that...I'd love to hear how it turns out. Thanks for subscribing, and the kind words. Best of luck to you.
This is great content Kevin. I've been riding a long time, but never felt I understood what's going on under the saddle as much as I do now based on your talks. Good stuff. Happy New Year.
Very good technical information on baker, I have a baker torque box with the complete baker primary with Baker gorilla clutch, well worth the price, 5speed to compliment my 71fx engine with S&S 93c i 4 1/2 inch stroker kit and flowed heads
To me, Baker has always meant quality, not only in materials but also machining. Ive never had a Baker transmission give any problems and always shifted very nicely. Ive had several from old shovel engines to a few evo engines i always want the Baker on my bike as an assurance of longevity because i have always rode my bikes like i stole em untill the last 10 years or so. Quality over quantity, but those transmissions have always gave me both!
Great job showing and telling about the baker drivetrain, learning I am so baker’s the best. Thanks again for showing telling have a good one see ya next time see ya bye.
Been watching for the last 3 weeks and you remind me of a freind I used to ride with who work for HD for 20+years .your knowledge is awsome thanks for shareing
You share great info and For what I hear baker are great people that makes great products, as soon as I have the free cash I'm throwing a baker chain tensioner and compensator in my 2016 flss. I have to say I love the fact they are a 100% American company and I love supporting American businesses so it's a no brainer.
Thanks for the video. I just changed the primary gearing on my ‘99 dyna. 3:15 to 3:74, a difference. Love it. 21 tooth comp, stock 36 clutch basket, and an 80 link chain (82 stock.)
Yes (07 up cruise drive trans)...see my past video on DD7 installation. a 2 part series. If youre interested in one, call us at the shop. 6782269651 and we can get ya dialed in.
I switched in to Baker’s compensator and manual chain adjuster a couple years ago love it I never like that automatic chain tensioner because it always gets tighter like you said. 09 RK
Great info very well explained , Baker trans and parts are bullet proof I have dd6 in my 94 softail turned into a new bike, put the comp sprocket and all the trimmings in my 07 street and in my sons 09 fatbob only downside is no inspection plate on cover to adjust the chain so you have pull the primary no big deal
I just purchased a 2015 ultra classic. It has a baker reverse on it. The noise level of this thing running is way more than I feel it should be. Is this normal? Should I have it checked out by a tech? Thanks!
Listen brother. Touching these subjects more than once. Never Hurts, Maybe do a few Refresh topics. Re touch the topics. Maybe with more subs well get some more questions.
I love my Harley but it's hard to respect a company that handles the crank run out problem the way they did. Increasing the tolerance to avoid warranty repairs makes me not want to own a newer more complicated Harley with people running the company like that.
I just bought a 2022 street Bob.. I hope I don’t have that kind of runout. I was hoping, still am hoping that I can put a geared cam .. I only learned about the 12/10000 runoff tolerance..
Hope all is going well and having or had a awesome time in Sturgis.Im glad I came across this video.It help answer a few questions I had about my 2005 Soft Tail Deuse.Iv noticed on the Hwy it just seems the bike is asking for another gear once I'm in 5th gear.The only thing is would it affect the ECM if I put in a 6 speed trans?Any advice would be greatly appreciated.Thanks for the great knowledge sharing.
I think I know what everyone is wanting for a 6 speed is like my older bikes.I rode mostly on the highway and here in Texas some places have a 85 mph speed limit?
Thanks so much Kevin. I'm installing another spring pack into the SE compensator, the 2nd in 3 years of ownership of a 2015 RGS, I wanted to know more about this system. TIme will tell if this pack will hold for long term.
I was recently told to change my spring pack in my 2015 SGS as well. Might spend the money and go with Baker, manual adjuster and upgrade clutch since it will be all apart
I would highly consider going a different route protwin.com/mano-warmotorsprocketforharleydavidson.aspx I did a video about it. a long 2 part 2 hour live feed on crankshafts and a shorter review video on it. It's all im using now...the real deal. Also look at this for clutch protwin.com/compmasterclutches.aspx did 2 videos on this as well. American Prime Manuf clutch install and a Live Feed with Ben the owner of the company.
Just found your videos. I like the content and the detail you explain things. What do you think of the Hayden M6 primary tensioner? I'm not excited about having to adjust the Baker manual every 5000 miles. Pulling the primary cover and replacing the gasket whether it needs adjusted or not.
Hi Ed. Thanks. You dont have to open the primary every 5000 miles. Typically, once a bike has 10,000 miles on it, the primary chain wont scretch much more. I'm finding I can go 15 to 20000 miles between needing to adjust. When it's past time, you'll will hear a very slight tapping in the primary which is the chain tapping against the bolt boss that's on the bottom of the inner, closest to the front. That clearance is very close.
I bought a used 2008 electra glide classic with 35k miles, and right off the bat had starter issues, but at least they gave me a 1 year warranty, plus they said they would replace the starter, which I found out they didn't replace it, but just put a clutch on the starter, I'm still having trouble out of it, banging when starting, plus hard to start after its hot. I really would like to have the Baker compensator and rotor, plus the bullet basket and Recluse clutch with manual tensioner put in, plus a new starter, instead of rebuilding one. Where are you, and what would be the cost for all that. I live in Florida. I've watched several of your videos now, I like what I'm hearing, and i would trust you with my bike. I've been researching Baker and Recluse, I'm sold on Baker, and partially on Recluse, which I've also heard good things about. I'm new to harley, this bike is my first Harley, I'm loving the bike, I just Don't trust the dealer where I bought it, They're snowballing me. What's your thoughts? And Thanks.
Hi...if you call the shop at 6782269651 or email me directly tech@protwin.com - i will help you further and get you some prices and advice to help you thru the buying decision. thanks for reaching out.
My Heritage Softail 88ci, (04), seems to have great low end torque. I go looking for 6th gear, even when I'm not on the open highway. I 'hear,' the engine revving up, at low speeds and lower gears. I often jump gears, like from 1st to 3rd, to 5th, when I'm rolling the highway. The engine torque allows the gear jumps, and the lower revs don't seem to be bad on the bike. On the open road, it seems to be doing okay, (no stock tachometer), I don't know if it's running (too)high RPMs or not. But even on the all stock bike, I could see where having that overdrive would offer the speed at lower RPMs and probably lower fuel usage... It's all stock, NOT a dragster. Just a street rider.
Do you still believe the Baker Chain adjuster is the best? I have heard people say that they bend. I don't know if this is due to incorrect adjustment.
Hi Kevin, I've tried everywhere in Australia, including Rollies, to buy a Baker primary chain adjuster. Nil, zero, nothing. So, I can buy the latest Hayden primary chain adjuster. What are you thought on the Hayden, 2021 adjusters. John Australia
My Baker Compensator had a crack in the spring pack after only 20,000 Km/ 12,500 Mi. It was out of warranty by only 2 weeks and Baker refused to replace it! I have now gone to the Man O War Compensator and am happy with it so far. Noticed easier starts, smoother shifts and better response! I will never use a Baker Compensator ever again!
Hello Kevin I watched your cam replacement video, it was excellent! I personally rebuilt my transmission 20,000 miles ago in my 2009 FLHX Street Glide and the main drive gear bearing is making noise again. At the time of the rebuild, no one mentioned the Baker updated final drive gear and Timken tapered bearing set up. Well I made a purchase from Baker for the main bearing kit, and the compensator sprocket assembly. I also purchased a primary chain from J&P Cycles. In my build I did use the Baker manual primary chain adjuster. My question to you is this. How many miles after this new build should I check the new primary chain tension? If I knew what outer primary cover to buy for my ride I would so. Right now I have to remove the entire cover to adjust the primary chain again. Thanking you in advance, Anthony C
Hard to say really....listen for a tapping noise in the primary. I will check at the next service at 5000 miles. From there, about every 10-15,000 works out about right.
I have a 03 883 sportster. When I come to a stop and put it in neutral then click it into first as I start letting the clutch out it feels like it is jumping into first gear with a clunk. What could be going with first gear.
hey Kevin, I put a 25 tooth compensator sprocket on, chain to tight, bought a 82 link chain, way to big, bought a 27 tooth sprocket, chain still to big, any suggestions?
Kevin Putting an Evolution basket in my 2001 twin cam 107 softail. 125 TQ Is it necessary to replace the primary chain at the same time? Total mileage on the chain is 25K. Motor is fresh. Keeping the stock compensator since its a 2001 THanks LittleO
i would say most likely not with only 25k. tug back and forth on the links, inspect and feel for any tight or loose links. also twist it back and forth...youre just looking for links where the pins are loose. it can be measure between links as well but again, probably not necessary.
where di you source a rotar without the spring basket welded to the face of it? everyone talks about them but never gives any info on what you need to buy and where to get it....i have an 09 heritage with 96b engine, my compensator is turning to shit my bike has just under 13k on it
Is there any recommendations of what could be wrong with my 2003 dyna lowrider. I was hearing a winding noise when slowing down and after about 4 rides of that on the next ride mid ride it starting grinding pretty bad when shifting gears also lost power . All fluids are good but it's still grinding when shifting and losing power when accelerating .if you have any ideas of what is causing this I would really appreciate it. Thanks
With so much talk on upgrades and power upgrades and the like, when in your professional opinion does leaving a bone stock bike alone make absolute sense? Or can the bone stock bike be improved upon if riding style and needs are “ok” with it.
@@KevinBaxter Thank you so much Kevin ! I got this 2006 FXDCI about a month ago and it has the Baker DD7 and a power upgrade from 88 in. To 95 in. , injector upgrade also and heads got polished and I love it ! I used to ride a flat head 80 on a VL frame with a 4 speed it was great but I am 62 now and the change made this dyna seem like heaven ! Lol. But I'm sure you can relate ! Thanks again for getting back to me so fast and hey your video's are very good ! I can tell you are a top shelf mechanic just by watching them and listening ! My dad was a master mechanic and I grew up in the shop so I can tell you have a gift and my hat's of to you my friend !
I'm looking to purchase a Harley Davidson street glide in the very near future But with my budget I will probably have to buy a used one. Do I need to be concerned about bikes that have upwards of 25000 to 30000 miles on them? My other question is did they make improvements to the transmission after 07 to help with the problem discussed in this video?
as long as the bike has been well maintained, that's low mileage. I have a 2010 Ultra for sale right now...looks incredible. 2010, 65,000 miles, but within the past 4,000 miles, I built a full 107, replaced all engine mounts, starter, wheel bearings, clutch, etc....its an awesome bike and only 10,500. If youre interested in that, email me kevin@baxtersgarage.com. Other than gear ratios, nothing really changed after 2008.
I have a 2017 Trike and I was wondering how this runout pertains to it? Also if I install a manual tensioner how do I adjust it without removing the entire primary cover?
Runout pertains the same...pinion and sprocket shaft on crank, mineshaft on trans, etc. You have to remove the cover to adjust it. If you have more than 10,000 miles or so on it, when you install, it's unlikely you will have to readjust again for another 10 to 15000 miles. Besides, it's one gasket and a few bolts...only takes a few mins to pull that cover and reinstall.
I really enjoy watching your vids. Your very smart when it comes to bikes. An if I bring my bike to you would ya fix it. Not to sure how far out ya are from me. I am located in central Pennsylvania
What are your thoughts on the twin power primary manual chain adjuster? My 07 twin cam on startup sounds like it is getting smacked with a sledgehammer. Do you think it is a good product for a upgrade upgrade?
it seems to be a good product and more affordable than some other options. i've held one, but havent installed one to be able to speak personally about its strength or longevity. on a relatively stock application i would think it would work just fine.
iv got a question i just put in a new clutch and cable 93 i have 1/2 turn out on clutch adjustment and 1/8 free play at lever. cant find neutral unless coasting or shut off bike
not real unusual for the older transmissions. bad throw out bearings can cause this as well on trans that had them. check primary chain adjustment and clutch pressure plate travel. Should be at least .060" if all that is well, a rolling neutral may be necessary.
the comp is unrelated to shifting directly....its a sprocket and spring pack on the crank that the primary chain goes around...its job is to absorb engine pulses and reduce vibration and shock load to the rest of the drivetrain. I dont agree with comp elimination unless going to belt drive primary.
@@KevinBaxter a compensation sprocket is a 10 pound ticking time bomb that will take out your primary and your engine putting a flat spot on your fancy radial back tire ....but its your money , I already spent all of mine
Have you ever heard of Southern Oregon Hot Bikes primary chain tensioner. Check them out at So Hot Bikes on you tube. Maybe you can test and review it! Thanks for the videos I learn a lot from you!
Yes I have. I've used their tensioner for YEARS. Had one on all my personal bikes as well pre 06. it is a great product. I only recently, in the past couple days, discovered they make them for late models as well. I was excited to see that...dont know how i missed the fact they did. Thanks for the comment!
I just learned about your channel. I have been using a Hot Bike primary chain tensioner on my 2005 FLHRCI since 2006. It has been great for 70,000 miles. Should be good for the next 100,000.
@@KevinBaxter If anyone is still making one for a 2005 Road King Classic with a hydraulic clutch in about two years (that will be the time for an engine rebuild 95" to ?") I was thinking about putting one in because of the less weight and noise. I don't do a lot of city driving so I am not worried about over heating the clutch.
Harley-Davidson is still using old outdated technology. Why Harley-Davidson would put a chain primary on the new Milwaukee 8 motor is beyond me. They did eliminate the twin cam and those dam tentioners in leiu of 1 chain and 1 tentioner easy access ok that good. But the 3 hole, 3 oil drain is ridiculous here in 2020 .
I can understand your perspective...however...folks are far more likely to complain than compliment online. I've never had issue with them...even decades ago before I became one of their top installers. I think they are better suited for their dealer network. I believe it's always best to purchase parts thru a dealer anyway...if you have a problem, your dealer can be your advocate and most often make things happen.
Watched quite a few videos from you now, and now a few of these talks. Learn a lot every single time. I don’t know how you are less than 30K subscribers, but I’m liking and sharing them all. I’ve watched plenty of videos and man yours are a cut above on so many levels. Thanks so much for all you share.
I appreciate that! Thank you very much sir for the kind words and spreading the info.
I admit I knew pretty much nothing about Harleys prior to this year.. other than that I really like them.. but I have learned a lot from this channel and others like it… so glad for this type of content
I had the privilege of learning a little about straight vs helical cut gears from a man who was on the team who designed the GM TH400 and TH350 transmissions when I worked as a builder back in the day. He explained the reason they went to straight cut gears was on dump trucks they were eating the rear planetary gears up and thought they needed the greater surface area to strengthen them up, but the real problem turned out to be the helical cut ones had a horrible thrust force on the back, and would starve the back bushing for oil, and burn it and the planetary up. What I am wondering is why nobody has developed a mod for the primary chain, which is basically the same size as a large timing chain. Seems it is the weak link, and replacing it with a gear-to-gear option would bullet-proof it, but make it loud, as you would need to add 3 straight-cut gears between the crank and clutch basket and avoid helical because of the thrust they create to the sides.
2004 fatboy 5 speed. Changed transmission pully from 32 to 34, dropped RPMs at hwy, didn't notice any lag in the lower gears. Best thing I ever did. 95 inch with andrews 26. Poor man's overdrive.
My Uncle passed last week and left me his seventies something Hardtail panhead. As was his custom every couple of years he would take it apart and put it back together well he was unable to complete it before he passed. We talked about getting together to really make this bike gleam but never got around to it. I'm learning a lot from your videos keep holding up the parts and explaining what they are and where they go. this week im purchasing a mechanics manual online but i'll keep watching. thanks for the videos.
I'm sorry for your loss sir...but man what a story you have with that bike. Those are the best bikes to have. I appreciate you sharing your story. Please continue to do that...I'd love to hear how it turns out. Thanks for subscribing, and the kind words. Best of luck to you.
Do it for your uncle!
This is great content Kevin. I've been riding a long time, but never felt I understood what's going on under the saddle as much as I do now based on your talks. Good stuff. Happy New Year.
Glad you enjoyed it! thank you!
Thanks Kevin, I always learn something when I watch your videos. This one was not an exception. Thank you again.
thank you sir!
Very good technical information on baker, I have a baker torque box with the complete baker primary with Baker gorilla clutch, well worth the price, 5speed to compliment my 71fx engine with S&S 93c i 4 1/2 inch stroker kit and flowed heads
Thanks for doing what you do. There’s a lot of very useful information in your channel. Keep up the good work! Cheers 🍻
Much appreciated! Youre welcome. Thank you.
Hope you’re having a great time at Sturgis !!! Thanks for the videos !! 😎😎
To me, Baker has always meant quality, not only in materials but also machining.
Ive never had a Baker transmission give any problems and always shifted very nicely. Ive had several from old shovel engines to a few evo engines i always want the Baker on my bike as an assurance of longevity because i have always rode my bikes like i stole em untill the last 10 years or so. Quality over quantity, but those transmissions have always gave me both!
Great job showing and telling about the baker drivetrain, learning I am so baker’s the best. Thanks again for showing telling have a good one see ya next time see ya bye.
Been watching for the last 3 weeks and you remind me of a freind I used to ride with who work for HD for 20+years .your knowledge is awsome thanks for shareing
not to many people in your tech of awsomeness category its between you and bert baker i would love to work with you both keep up the great work
You share great info and For what I hear baker are great people that makes great products, as soon as I have the free cash I'm throwing a baker chain tensioner and compensator in my 2016 flss. I have to say I love the fact they are a 100% American company and I love supporting American businesses so it's a no brainer.
Thanks for following and for the kind words. Please subscribe and check out other videos as well...try to keep folks informed.
Thanks for the video.
I just changed the primary gearing on my ‘99 dyna. 3:15 to 3:74, a difference. Love it.
21 tooth comp, stock 36 clutch basket, and an 80 link chain (82 stock.)
Kevin Wallace Baker 7-speed transmission fit into a standard six-speed box be greatly appreciated and loved your Tech talk 214 Ultra Limited
Yes (07 up cruise drive trans)...see my past video on DD7 installation. a 2 part series. If youre interested in one, call us at the shop. 6782269651 and we can get ya dialed in.
Love the content! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Excellent- thanx Uncle Kevin 😊
Safe rides 👍🤜
I switched in to Baker’s compensator and manual chain adjuster a couple years ago love it I never like that automatic chain tensioner because it always gets tighter like you said. 09 RK
I did the same a few months ago for my 2010 Superglide. Sounds smooth and runs great.
I own a 07 Street Gide with a 124” and Baker DD7 love the bike. 👍👍
Great info very well explained , Baker trans and parts are bullet proof I have dd6 in my 94 softail turned into a new bike, put the comp sprocket and all the trimmings in my 07 street and in my sons 09 fatbob only downside is no inspection plate on cover to adjust the chain so you have pull the primary no big deal
Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate you watching and following the channel.
Really like your show. I have a 2016 triglide 103 hard start in cold motor. Pulls amps way down. Have new lithium battery
I just purchased a 2015 ultra classic. It has a baker reverse on it. The noise level of this thing running is way more than I feel it should be. Is this normal? Should I have it checked out by a tech? Thanks!
How much would cost to rebuild 2009 ultra classic trans completely
Listen brother. Touching these subjects more than once. Never Hurts, Maybe do a few Refresh topics. Re touch the topics. Maybe with more subs well get some more questions.
I love my Harley but it's hard to respect a company that handles the crank run out problem the way they did. Increasing the tolerance to avoid warranty repairs makes me not want to own a newer more complicated Harley with people running the company like that.
Greed is universal in all companies.
I just bought a 2022 street Bob.. I hope I don’t have that kind of runout. I was hoping, still am hoping that I can put a geared cam .. I only learned about the 12/10000 runoff tolerance..
Hope all is going well and having or had a awesome time in Sturgis.Im glad I came across this video.It help answer a few questions I had about my 2005 Soft Tail Deuse.Iv noticed on the Hwy it just seems the bike is asking for another gear once I'm in 5th gear.The only thing is would it affect the ECM if I put in a 6 speed trans?Any advice would be greatly appreciated.Thanks for the great knowledge sharing.
I think I know what everyone is wanting for a 6 speed is like my older bikes.I rode mostly on the highway and here in Texas some places have a 85 mph speed limit?
Thanks so much Kevin. I'm installing another spring pack into the SE compensator, the 2nd in 3 years of ownership of a 2015 RGS, I wanted to know more about this system. TIme will tell if this pack will hold for long term.
Thanks for following and for the kind words. Please subscribe and check out other videos as well...try to keep folks informed.
I was recently told to change my spring pack in my 2015 SGS as well. Might spend the money and go with Baker, manual adjuster and upgrade clutch since it will be all apart
I would highly consider going a different route protwin.com/mano-warmotorsprocketforharleydavidson.aspx I did a video about it. a long 2 part 2 hour live feed on crankshafts and a shorter review video on it. It's all im using now...the real deal. Also look at this for clutch protwin.com/compmasterclutches.aspx did 2 videos on this as well. American Prime Manuf clutch install and a Live Feed with Ben the owner of the company.
Way good video! Thank you 👍👍
Just found your videos. I like the content and the detail you explain things. What do you think of the Hayden M6 primary tensioner? I'm not excited about having to adjust the Baker manual every 5000 miles. Pulling the primary cover and replacing the gasket whether it needs adjusted or not.
Hi Ed. Thanks. You dont have to open the primary every 5000 miles. Typically, once a bike has 10,000 miles on it, the primary chain wont scretch much more. I'm finding I can go 15 to 20000 miles between needing to adjust. When it's past time, you'll will hear a very slight tapping in the primary which is the chain tapping against the bolt boss that's on the bottom of the inner, closest to the front. That clearance is very close.
@@KevinBaxter
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I bought a used 2008 electra glide classic with 35k miles, and right off the bat had starter issues, but at least they gave me a 1 year warranty, plus they said they would replace the starter, which I found out they didn't replace it, but just put a clutch on the starter, I'm still having trouble out of it, banging when starting, plus hard to start after its hot.
I really would like to have the Baker compensator and rotor, plus the bullet basket and Recluse clutch with manual tensioner put in, plus a new starter, instead of rebuilding one. Where are you, and what would be the cost for all that. I live in Florida.
I've watched several of your videos now, I like what I'm hearing, and i would trust you with my bike. I've been researching Baker and Recluse, I'm sold on Baker, and partially on Recluse, which I've also heard good things about. I'm new to harley, this bike is my first Harley,
I'm loving the bike, I just Don't trust the dealer where I bought it,
They're snowballing me. What's your thoughts?
And Thanks.
Hi...if you call the shop at 6782269651 or email me directly tech@protwin.com - i will help you further and get you some prices and advice to help you thru the buying decision. thanks for reaching out.
My Heritage Softail 88ci, (04), seems to have great low end torque. I go looking for 6th gear, even when I'm not on the open highway. I 'hear,' the engine revving up, at low speeds and lower gears.
I often jump gears, like from 1st to 3rd, to 5th, when I'm rolling the highway. The engine torque allows the gear jumps, and the lower revs don't seem to be bad on the bike.
On the open road, it seems to be doing okay, (no stock tachometer), I don't know if it's running (too)high RPMs or not. But even on the all stock bike, I could see where having that overdrive would offer the speed at lower RPMs and probably lower fuel usage...
It's all stock, NOT a dragster. Just a street rider.
lugging one does more damage than midrange RPMS. TCs are happy at 3000-3500 rpm. might have a little blowby, but they purr.
@@KevinBaxter Guess I'll need a fricking Tac-o-meter now...
I don't have a clue what it's doing RPM wise...
This will help. Send me a christmas card. hahaha bakerdrivetrain.com/pages/calculate-gear-ratios-on-your-motorcycle-rpm-vs-speed
Do you still believe the Baker Chain adjuster is the best? I have heard people say that they bend. I don't know if this is due to incorrect adjustment.
Hi Kevin, I've tried everywhere in Australia, including Rollies, to buy a Baker primary chain adjuster. Nil, zero, nothing. So, I can buy the latest Hayden primary chain adjuster. What are you thought on the Hayden, 2021 adjusters.
John
Australia
My Baker Compensator had a crack in the spring pack after only 20,000 Km/ 12,500 Mi. It was out of warranty by only 2 weeks and Baker refused to replace it! I have now gone to the Man O War Compensator and am happy with it so far. Noticed easier starts, smoother shifts and better response! I will never use a Baker Compensator ever again!
Great can't get enoug, wish you in California just kidding its horrible except for the weather here.
Hello Kevin I watched your cam replacement video, it was excellent! I personally rebuilt my transmission 20,000 miles ago in my 2009 FLHX Street Glide and the main drive gear bearing is making noise again. At the time of the rebuild, no one mentioned the Baker updated final drive gear and Timken tapered bearing set up. Well I made a purchase from Baker for the main bearing kit, and the compensator sprocket assembly. I also purchased a primary chain from J&P Cycles. In my build I did use the Baker manual primary chain adjuster. My question to you is this. How many miles after this new build should I check the new primary chain tension? If I knew what outer primary cover to buy for my ride I would so. Right now I have to remove the entire cover to adjust the primary chain again. Thanking you in advance,
Anthony C
Hard to say really....listen for a tapping noise in the primary. I will check at the next service at 5000 miles. From there, about every 10-15,000 works out about right.
I have a 03 883 sportster. When I come to a stop and put it in neutral then click it into first as I start letting the clutch out it feels like it is jumping into first gear with a clunk. What could be going with first gear.
hey Kevin, I put a 25 tooth compensator sprocket on, chain to tight, bought a 82 link chain, way to big, bought a 27 tooth sprocket, chain still to big, any suggestions?
are you guys still doing the Baker dd7 blowout specials ? I would like to do it for my 2009 triglide if possible?
Kevin
Putting an Evolution basket in my 2001 twin cam 107 softail. 125 TQ Is it necessary to replace the primary chain at the same time? Total mileage on the chain is 25K. Motor is fresh. Keeping the stock compensator since its a 2001
THanks
LittleO
i would say most likely not with only 25k. tug back and forth on the links, inspect and feel for any tight or loose links. also twist it back and forth...youre just looking for links where the pins are loose. it can be measure between links as well but again, probably not necessary.
What about the man o war compensator
Very interesting I have an 07 road King that keeps eating splines in the transmission?
Great info.........keep going!!
THanks for the compliment and for following.
where di you source a rotar without the spring basket welded to the face of it? everyone talks about them but never gives any info on what you need to buy and where to get it....i have an 09 heritage with 96b engine, my compensator is turning to shit my bike has just under 13k on it
Mines broke today. ,too bad I was not far from the house . 95 in s@s pro pipe. , need s for a baker?
Is there any recommendations of what could be wrong with my 2003 dyna lowrider. I was hearing a winding noise when slowing down and after about 4 rides of that on the next ride mid ride it starting grinding pretty bad when shifting gears also lost power . All fluids are good but it's still grinding when shifting and losing power when accelerating .if you have any ideas of what is causing this I would really appreciate it. Thanks
With so much talk on upgrades and power upgrades and the like, when in your professional opinion does leaving a bone stock bike alone make absolute sense? Or can the bone stock bike be improved upon if riding style and needs are “ok” with it.
Baker DD6 $3500 plus labor install and needed parts. Big bucks Having it done, probably $6000
We do free installs 3 times a year. Typically ends up being in the $4000 range after other misc parts.
Stupid question. What's the going rate on a baker transmission?
Do you have a preference on what oil to run in a Baker DD7 I love this trans. and want the very best for it ! any feed back appreciated !
I run Amsoil Severe Gear 80w90 and havent had one single issue in over 10 years and hundreds installed.
@@KevinBaxter Thank you so much Kevin ! I got this 2006 FXDCI about a month ago and it has the Baker DD7 and a power upgrade from 88 in. To 95 in. , injector upgrade also and heads got polished and I love it ! I used to ride a flat head 80 on a VL frame with a 4 speed it was great but I am 62 now and the change made this dyna seem like heaven ! Lol. But I'm sure you can relate ! Thanks again for getting back to me so fast and hey your video's are very good ! I can tell you are a top shelf mechanic just by watching them and listening ! My dad was a master mechanic and I grew up in the shop so I can tell you have a gift and my hat's of to you my friend !
Awwwe! Thought you were gonna talk about a Baker reverse on a DD6...😪
They work great. Have installed many. Just did one a couple weeks ago in fact.
@@KevinBaxter You just made my day! I'll be in touch, thx!
Youre welcome. Thank you.
I'm looking to purchase a Harley Davidson street glide in the very near future But with my budget I will probably have to buy a used one. Do I need to be concerned about bikes that have upwards of 25000 to 30000 miles on them? My other question is did they make improvements to the transmission after 07 to help with the problem discussed in this video?
as long as the bike has been well maintained, that's low mileage. I have a 2010 Ultra for sale right now...looks incredible. 2010, 65,000 miles, but within the past 4,000 miles, I built a full 107, replaced all engine mounts, starter, wheel bearings, clutch, etc....its an awesome bike and only 10,500. If youre interested in that, email me kevin@baxtersgarage.com. Other than gear ratios, nothing really changed after 2008.
I have a 2017 Trike and I was wondering how this runout pertains to it? Also if I install a manual tensioner how do I adjust it without removing the entire primary cover?
Runout pertains the same...pinion and sprocket shaft on crank, mineshaft on trans, etc. You have to remove the cover to adjust it. If you have more than 10,000 miles or so on it, when you install, it's unlikely you will have to readjust again for another 10 to 15000 miles. Besides, it's one gasket and a few bolts...only takes a few mins to pull that cover and reinstall.
I think I will order your tentioner because mine gets tight every so often, so I have to take it apart .....
Give us a call on Tuesday and we will get one out to you.
So why didn't HD go with belt primary? And why did they go with belt secondary? And what's your opinion on running a belt primary over chain?
I have a friend who said his secondary belt has broken 3 times. Maybe a misalignment, don't know.
I have an issue with the Baker 6-od in that it pops out of 3rd HELP
I have a 2016 Tryglide 103 want to change transmission baker. I pull trailer.
Please email me at kevin@protwin.com We can get you more information and pricing.
I just bought a 2005 softail duece with 5k miles is my primary chain adjuster manual ?
yes..it would be manual and that is fabulous!
I hear that noise when Im riding and shifting speeds fast, more than a noise i feel like a pull in the bike like a pull clunk.
Are screamin eagle transmissions made by jims? how good are they?
I have a 2007 flstc. What does it cost to upgrade the primary.
if you can shoot an email to me at kevin@protwin.com i'll be glad to get you a quote. thanks.
I really enjoy watching your vids. Your very smart when it comes to bikes. An if I bring my bike to you would ya fix it. Not to sure how far out ya are from me. I am located in central Pennsylvania
I absolutely would sir. I'm 45 mins NE of Atlanta near I-85 if that helps.
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WOW Hank. Thank you so very much sir! I greatly appreciate your kindness.
What about compensator delete ( solid sprocket ) ??
What are your thoughts on the twin power primary manual chain adjuster? My 07 twin cam on startup sounds like it is getting smacked with a sledgehammer. Do you think it is a good product for a upgrade upgrade?
Do you think it is a decent product? I have one but have not installed it yet.
it seems to be a good product and more affordable than some other options. i've held one, but havent installed one to be able to speak personally about its strength or longevity. on a relatively stock application i would think it would work just fine.
@@KevinBaxter Thanks for the reply. I'll install It and get back to you later on my thoughts. Cheers!
What is your opinion on Hayden tensioners?
iv got a question i just put in a new clutch and cable 93 i have 1/2 turn out on clutch adjustment and 1/8 free play at lever. cant find neutral unless coasting or shut off bike
not real unusual for the older transmissions. bad throw out bearings can cause this as well on trans that had them. check primary chain adjustment and clutch pressure plate travel. Should be at least .060" if all that is well, a rolling neutral may be necessary.
@@KevinBaxter i put a new pressure plate in as well il try a new throw out bearing thank you
Hey Kevin! When you eliminate a compensator, how are you able to shift? I'm also dumb as a rock 😅
the comp is unrelated to shifting directly....its a sprocket and spring pack on the crank that the primary chain goes around...its job is to absorb engine pulses and reduce vibration and shock load to the rest of the drivetrain. I dont agree with comp elimination unless going to belt drive primary.
@@KevinBaxter good to know. Sorry for the late comment. Thanks for clearing it up! And why only belt drive primary?
because a belt can absorb the shock load better than a primary chain can.
@@KevinBaxter oh no way.
@@KevinBaxter a compensation sprocket is a 10 pound ticking time bomb that will take out your primary and your engine putting a flat spot on your fancy radial back tire ....but its your money , I already spent all of mine
Any words on oil transfer?
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Hey Kevin, what are your thoughts on the type of oil for the Harley Touring twin cams. Three compartments. Same oil for each?
Have you ever heard of Southern Oregon Hot Bikes primary chain tensioner. Check them out at So Hot Bikes on you tube. Maybe you can test and review it! Thanks for the videos I learn a lot from you!
Yes I have. I've used their tensioner for YEARS. Had one on all my personal bikes as well pre 06. it is a great product. I only recently, in the past couple days, discovered they make them for late models as well. I was excited to see that...dont know how i missed the fact they did. Thanks for the comment!
I just learned about your channel. I have been using a Hot Bike primary chain tensioner on my 2005 FLHRCI since 2006. It has been great for 70,000 miles. Should be good for the next 100,000.
My Baker 6-OD has popped out of 3rd since new. HELP
Baker should be able to help you with that.
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What do you think about the man o war
Love it
I am curious about what you think about belt drive primary systems. Good or bad?
They are great in the right application. I'm a fan.
@@KevinBaxter If anyone is still making one for a 2005 Road King Classic with a hydraulic clutch in about two years (that will be the time for an engine rebuild 95" to ?") I was thinking about putting one in because of the less weight and noise. I don't do a lot of city driving so I am not worried about over heating the clutch.
Ac voltage?
3000 rpm is where it’s at.
Damn I'd love to have you for my mechanic.
Thanks Kev.
Drag or cruise, no free lunch...
Harley-Davidson is still using old outdated technology. Why Harley-Davidson would put a chain primary on the new Milwaukee 8 motor is beyond me. They did eliminate the twin cam and those dam tentioners in leiu of 1 chain and 1 tentioner easy access ok that good. But the 3 hole, 3 oil drain is ridiculous here in 2020 .
I have a2006 fat. Oy
Too many poor customer service reviews for baker products give me pause.
I can understand your perspective...however...folks are far more likely to complain than compliment online. I've never had issue with them...even decades ago before I became one of their top installers. I think they are better suited for their dealer network. I believe it's always best to purchase parts thru a dealer anyway...if you have a problem, your dealer can be your advocate and most often make things happen.
Is there a 30 tooth baker comp for a 01, 1200 sporty. And a 6th gear kit.
What is your Facebook page and I don't get a notification when you are going live how do I get them to happen