Install Bearing & Drive Gear 5 Spd Harley Trans
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Install Bearing & Drive Gear 5 Spd Harley Trans. How to install a main bearing & drive gear in Harley 5 Spd Trans with inexpencisive tools. Step by step demonstration of install main bearing & drive gear in a harley 5 spd trans with homemade bearing & drive gear installer.
I always pop those bearings in a freezer overnight before pressing in. That tool you made can also be used to install the neck bearing races. I like the way you explain everything thoroughly. Thank you for sharing your years of experience.
Thanks glad you're enjoying the videos. I've also done the freeze with bearings. When I was making up that tool I did realize I could use it for the neck bearings & cups, that will come in a later video. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
For a guy who works from home, keep up the fine work!
Glad you liked the video, thanks for watching and ride safe
Great video. I’m about to do this on my 6 speed. Appreciate you passing along the knowledge to the next generation.
Glad you liked the video, thanks for watching and ride safe
@@tinkeringwithharleys just pulled my main drive gear and bearing with a homemade tool. Came out really well. Now going to buy a new main drive gear, bearing and then have a local shop press in new trap door bearings.
Keep up the great work, these videos are so solid for passing it onto the next generation.
Glad you find the videos helpful. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
@@tinkeringwithharleys just installed my gearset back in.
After torquing it down, and adding the top cover. The transmission shaft is pretty hard to turn by hand. Even if I put the clutch hub on the shaft (not installed) just to turn it. It’s still difficult to turn but it shifts fine.
Maybe the main drive gear is pressed in crooked? The gearset spun great before hand and I did get new trapdoor bearings installed. So maybe I just need to add some oil and see how it does.
Usually when I install bearings I lube the bearings with assembly lube and rotate them with my fingers to make sure they're completely coated and spinning freely. When I install the gear set I pour trans oil over the gear set while rotating it by hand so all components are lubricated. Than run through the gears before installing the top cover to insure all is moving freely. The gear set maybe a little tight with the new bearings but shouldn't be difficult to turn.
I look forward to each video, its great to see the case taken to a machine shop instead of scrapped. Thank you for passing on knowledge and good video work.
Glad your enjoying the videos, I enjoy making them. Thanks for watching
You and I think the same way. Most times you can make four own tools.thanks for the video!
No need spending money on a over priced tool that your only going to use once. If you give it a little thought you can in most cases as you say make your own tools. Thanks for watching
Hi I'm from Australia that's a great idea will be using that trick cheers I own a 1994 harley davidson heritage go the evo engine
Hello from the States, glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching and ride safe
So I’m finally back on doing this install of my baker OD6 ,, I’m trying to see what this sleeve over the fifth gear is ,, and where to find it
Call Baker they'll be more than happy to help you. Thanks for watching
Great video. On the service manual it says to "measure the depth before you remove" that way you know how far in the case to put it. What was your measurement? Or did you just bottom it out? Thanks for any advise.
Thanks for the question, I always run the bearing in till it seats against the case. There can't be any room between the case and the bearing. If there is room it will allow the bearing to which will destroy the bearing and possibly do damage to the components that ride on the main shaft. Hope that helps answer you're question. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
🙌🏻 I needed this video , looking for a cheaper way to do this exact installation and not buy the Ridiculously priced tools 👍🏻
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching
Funny noise 4 sure I love it it's progress being brought forward ✌️ on 2's love all your videos ✌️
Glad you like the videos. 👍
IS THIS THE SAME TRANMISSION THAT NEEDED SHIFTER SHAFT CASE HOLES MACHINE AT A MACHINE SHOP? LOVE OLD SCHOOL WAYS.GREAT VID.
Yep it's the same trans. Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
Very cool info. Thanks!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
This is really helpful, thank you. What did you use for the sleeve that supports the inner main race?
Nevermind, found the answer in another commment: Measure and get a pipe cut. Thanks again!
I used a small round bit from my press. It fit the shoulder of the inner race perfectly. Thanks for watching and ride safe
Brilliant. Very helpful. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Where did you get the snapping pliers you used to install the main bearing please?
I believe I got them on Amazon, they're made by Channel Loc. Thanks for watching and ride safe
Hi, thank you for all the great ideas. I ride a 2001 fxstd and want to rebuild my trans for the fun of it. I got the bearings out of my camplate heating it with a propane torch. They fell out. Does heat have any place in this instance? Thank you for the great videos. Wj
Glad you enjoy the videos, I'm not exactly sure which bearings you removed. If you removed the bearings from the transmission a little heat won't hurt the case. If you removed the bearings from the cam plate in the engine that could be a problem. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
Great videos. Can you tell me what the main drive gear inner race support was? Couldn't tell if it was a socket or pipe that you fabed up? Thanks.
Thanks for the question, I used a socket on the inner race to support it. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
I know you used a press to pop the old bearing but is there any way to pull it out while I’m the frame? Jaw puller?
Yeah you can remove the main bearing while it's the trans is still in the frame. You don't have to be real careful with removing it because you're just going to throw it out anyway. If you can get a piece of wood that covers the bearing you can tap the bearing out. It won't hurt the case and like I said once you remove that bearing it has to be replaced. Thanks for watching and ride safe
@@tinkeringwithharleys Please, please be careful tapping the bearing out with a hammer etc. The main drive gear can be very tight in the Main drive gear bearing due to corrosion etc. I have seen a few people try the tap (or beat) it out route and destroy the small fragile lip (there by destroying the case) behind the main drive gear bearing as the bearing moved instead of the main drive gear. You can make a plate that goes across the right side trans case where the trap door mates (the same way the store bought, over priced one has). Drill a hole and use the threaded rod and the bearing installer cone and pull it out the same way as you installed it. Use some heat first around the inner race of the main drive gear bearing. I love making tools and this is a great video. Just don't want to see someone destroy a case. Also, the use of a nice bearing between the nut and the aluminum tapered installer piece will make it much easier to turn the nut under pressure.
Thanks for the question, you can use the same tool that I used in this video to remove the main bearing, just reverse the procedure. If you don't have the stuff I used you can use a piece of wood thats width is smaller than the hole in the case but the width of the bearing, apply a little heat to the bearing and carefully tap it out. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
I saw the correct tools for the job on your bench. The sleeve you put over the mainshaft to draw it into the bearing cannot be bought at the hardware store. Where did you get it? It looks alot like the removal/installation tools by Jim's
Nope I don't own any Jim's tools. That actually was a sleeve from a ball joint removal and installation kit. But you can get what you need at the hardware store. Get the diameter of the inside race of the bearing and get a pipe with the same diameter. It works just as well. Thanks for the comment and I hope that explanation helps. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching
Really in enjoy all da tech tips
Glad your enjoying the tips and tricks. Thanks for watching.
I'm working on 97 Harley and I put that bearing in is it supposed to have oil through it
If your talking about the main shaft bearing, yes it gets oiled from the tranny. Thanks for watching and ride safe
Thank you!!
Glad you liked the video, thanks for watching
You have shown me how 2 save real money
Glad you've been able to save money on repairs. That's what my channel is about doing the work correctly but as economically as possible. Thanks for watching.
How did you replace the Counter shaft bearing?
Thanks for the question. I pressed the counter shaft bearing out on the press on a previous video titled "5 Speed Stuck in Neutral". I installed in the new counter shaft bearing on the press on the video your watching in the begining of the video. Thanks for watching.
Is that bearings supposed to have oil going through it
Yes it gets oiled from the tranny
Where did you get the race/seal installer pieces from, please sir.
I got it on Amazon years ago. It was about a 1/4 of the price of what Harley wanted. Don't remember exactly what I paid for it, but it's held up very well. I've done well over 300 races in the last 20 years. Hope that helps and thanks for watching.
Transmission Mainshaft Bearing Inner Race Tool Installer & Puller for Big Twins 1984-present 34902-84 www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2RWWGP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW56PZPFYQHHTKWRCFZW
Is there an easy way to get the drive gear and bearing out of the transmission while the transmission case is still on the bike? I need to replace needle bearings in the main drive gear. Don't want to buy the $250 Jims tool.
Thanks for the question, in all honesty I've never removed a drive gear in a trans while it was in the bike. I've always removed the trans from the bike. For me it's easier to work on the trans on a bench. The only thing I can think of if you get a flat piece of steel and put it across the outside of the case where the door sits and drill a hole in so that you can take a threaded rod stock through it and through the drive gear. Do the same thing I did except reverse. Tighten the nut against the steel plate and it should pull the drive gear out. I've never tried it, but it's the same principle as the over priced tool. Again I've never attempted it so I don't know if it would work or not. You don't have to worry about damaging the main bearing because it will need to be replaced anyway. It's the only thing I can think of short of knocking it out with a dead blow hammer or mallet which I wouldn't recommend. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
@@tinkeringwithharleys Fair enough. I'll probably end up taking the whole case out. Did you press out the old bearing and drive gear?
Also, what is the black sleeve you're using to press in the main shaft/the black disk you're using on the inside of the transmission to press in the bearing?
The sleeve is a piece of pipe that I cut. I used the spacer to determine the diameter of how wide the pipe had to be so the splines and threats wouldn't be damaged
I press out the gear drive and sometimes I press out the bearing, but if you get lucky the bearing can be pulled out by hand.
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do you think it is possible to replace this bearing after pulling inner primary cover without taking transmission apart. this is where i am at right now.
Thanks for the question, if you're talking about the main bearing for the trans you have to remove the gear set and the drive gear in order to remove the bearing.
thank you very much, excellent video
Your welcome, glad to help. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching.
Hi buddy im a viewer from the UK love the channel and content and i only found this video today.. im about to do all this on my 2007 6 speed would you know if its similar setup ?
Thanks for the question. Yes it's almost the same, the only difference with a 6 speed is it has 1 more shaft 1 more shift fork and gears on the 6 gear shaft. That's the only difference between a 5 speed and 6 speed. Good luck on you're project and thanks for watching.
@@tinkeringwithharleys ive never removed a trans on a Harley before so in doing as much research as possible. Thanks again for your time knowledge and effort for our benefit
Removing the trans from the bike is fairly simple. It looks more intimidating than it is. Remove the 4 bolts that bolt to the engine case, 1 support bolt on top of the trans to the upper frame which can be slide out of the way, 4 bolts on the lower case to the frame 2 per side and finally the pivot bolt at the rear of the trans that goes through the swing arm. Than you can work the trans out. Sounds like a lot but it's not only takes about 15 minutes to remove everything.
Also remove the trans from the clutch side of the bike, you will have to move it around a little to get it out.
@@tinkeringwithharleys Thanks a lot helps loads to dot down in my notes .. i hope to get it done real soon im awaiting some more tools in the Mail. Then i can get my inner primary bearing and race changed while in there was thinking of doing them all for peice of mind. I have a humming/whirling noise when in Neutral but goes when in gear and riding. Reads lots people saying IPB so hopefully will get it sorted very soon.
hello, it is possible to know the size of the extractors, both of the bearing and of the gearbox gear, Thanks!
Thanks for the question. I pressed out the drive gear with a 44.5 mm bit, the main bearing was pressed out with a 72 mm bit and the counter shaft bearing was pressed out with a 11/16 socket. Thanks for watching
@@tinkeringwithharleys Thanks for your reply, and for your work! 👍🏻
Sir, are those Channellock 927 Snap Ring pliers?
They are channel locs snap ring pliers, I don't recall the model. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching
i need your help with a 5th gear seal
What do you need?
Tinkering 2:11 is press in the counter shaft bearing , Harley has nothing on this with the trans on the Frame . One of them things you learn in a Class or watching from a Master . I did it in 2019 Froze the Bearing 24 hours then Tapped it in with a Race driver from the Primary side of the Case till it was flush . As far as I know No one has a Video on this , Not on the Bike.
Couldn't tell you one way or the other if someone done a video on it. The transmissions I work on. usually the trans is outa the bike so I've never run into the problem. I have seen the frozen bearing method and have used it in the past. But seeing the trans is outa the bike I usually use my press for it. I work on them the easiest way for me.
@@tinkeringwithharleys I did a lot of looking . No videos on it . Kenneth Wise Just did one he pressed it in on the bike using a cam bearing tool . last month
All that u need is courage!!!!
Yep most of this is common sense once you get used to it. Also having a service manual helps. Thanks for watching.