What is a transitional Speedmaster?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • In 1969 Omega moved from the Calibre 321 movement to 861 for its Speedmasters. In a short period they made the new 861 powered Speedmaster with a dial design identical to the previous reference, the 145.012.
    This short lived model is known as the "Transitional" and is highly sought after by collectors. So it is important to make sure that if you are buying one the watch has all the correct attributes that make it a Transitional.

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  • @daffidavit
    @daffidavit Месяц назад

    I still have my Speedmaster that was given to me as a BD gift about 10 days after Buzz Aldrin walked on the moon with his Speedmaster. Sometime in the late 80s or early 90s I retuned it to Omega in NYC for a "tune-up". Some of the radioactive paint was flaking off the sweep second-hand. For $300 Omega gave me a new Hazilte crystal that was less prone to scratching. They also replace the sweep second hand with a newer version that didn't flake. Omega replaced the plungers and rubber grommets, or seals. They also gave me a brand new more modern wristband. All for $300. That's more than what the watch cost at the time. They cleaned the inside and returned all the parts in a small paper envelope, except the sweep second hand. They also returned a part of the old bracelet. I don't belive Omega realized at the time that this watch was going to be this iconic. I belive my watch, an .861, was built in about October of 1968 and wasn't sold until July of 1969.
    My watch still runs perfectly. It has very few scratches and looks almost brand new after I buff the crystal with Polywatch. I wish they would have returned the original sweep secondhand, but I guess they thought it was garbage at the time. Who knew?

  • @davidmartin1571
    @davidmartin1571 2 года назад +2

    Nice video. Had to dash off and grab my 68' transitional out of it's box for a quick comparison.

  • @multi-currency-csa
    @multi-currency-csa 3 года назад +2

    "Wind me up and watch me go" - superb as always, thank you. incidentally, it felt like at circa 3'12" i put my glasses on.

  • @vanillacoffee
    @vanillacoffee 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for another episode William. Love these, total respect for your knowledge and your sharing of it. Best of health to you and yours.
    Looking forward to the next one.

  • @brucemcintosh8260
    @brucemcintosh8260 3 года назад +4

    YES! I am with Stefano! I'd LOVE A Video on those "Flat Link" Bracelets. I Do have the 1st Ed of the " MOONWATCH ONLY" Book, but i'd like to see some of those bracelets you obviously have. You have THEE BEST Watch Show on RUclips BAR NONE!!!

    • @phmwu7368
      @phmwu7368 3 года назад +2

      Recently, the best Speedmaster-related items have been thirdparty, such as the steel mesh & flat link bracelets by Forstnerbands and the 60-minutes bezel by Radialproject

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад +1

      True

  • @sergiocozzi1780
    @sergiocozzi1780 3 года назад +3

    Great video !!! Left you a message on your website since I’m seeking a short advice on a 145.022-69 I’m considering to purchase.

  • @heikolang335
    @heikolang335 4 месяца назад

    just binge watched your stuff. I am in the market for a 145.022-74
    Thanks a lot for all the effort you put in the web site and the video, they are really helpfull

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 месяца назад

      Best of luck! The -74 came in a step dial and no step. Not easy to find

  • @kadams842
    @kadams842 3 года назад +1

    So happy to see a new video! Please keep doing these. They are fantastic

  • @matthew_lynch
    @matthew_lynch 3 года назад +2

    Great content as always Captain Speedy! Your knowledge sharing is very much appreciated.

  • @tecaraglio1928
    @tecaraglio1928 3 года назад +1

    I Have one exactly as that one with dark brown dial, same year

  • @chuckg322
    @chuckg322 2 года назад

    I've been working my way through this series and absolutely loving it. So much info in these that I'm probably going to have to rewatch several times. Thanks!

  • @michaelreddy9839
    @michaelreddy9839 3 года назад

    Thanks for making these videos. They are really helpful and informative. Please keep them coming.

  • @Albinsson88
    @Albinsson88 3 года назад +1

    Finally a new video! Hope you're doing well William.

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад +1

      Thanks, you too! Its been a busy summer!

  • @bjoernaltmann
    @bjoernaltmann 3 года назад

    With regards to the variations in black: you could get a Pantone swatch book and you will almost certainly find a reference for the shade of black. Pantone provide an international standard for printing colours. These books are quite expensive, but they are calibrated to look the same anywhere in the world.

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  2 года назад

      I did not think of that. It would take my obsession to a whole new level, Pantoning the blacks....

  • @JezzaTang
    @JezzaTang 3 года назад +1

    I’m loving your videos because I always wanted a speedmaster and I’m saving to get one. Could you tell us how you got into speedmasters to start and how and why you buy the ones you do

  • @tomhope8138
    @tomhope8138 3 года назад

    thanks william, enjoying your vids, cheers

  • @j308s7
    @j308s7 3 года назад +1

    Great to see a new video,any chance of a review of the Italian market Soyuz Speedmaster? Thankyou.

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад

      Possibly! There is some discussion around these but I would be happy to share what I know

  • @orangehand7929
    @orangehand7929 3 года назад +1

    Another great video, William. Would love to see you do a video on the Mark II racing dial which I feel is wildly undervalued and under appreciated. (I’m very much biased as I have a lovely example, but would be interested in your take on it).

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад +1

      Great suggestion! I do like the MkII and I will prepare something.

    • @orangehand7929
      @orangehand7929 3 года назад

      Looking forward to it. Cheers!

  • @stefanopics4718
    @stefanopics4718 3 года назад +1

    William! great videos. Can i propose you do a video on bracelet references for vintage Speedmasters? that is not anywhere on yt and would be very interesting!

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад +2

      Possibly! Bracelets are more involved than people think, they are after all the most physically stressed part of a watch. So just because it is correct, it is possibly very worn and not worth paying a premium for.

  • @MLeung-vl7we
    @MLeung-vl7we 3 года назад

    Great videos. Correct me if I'm wrong about the dials being exactly the same. The thickness and length of the 2/10 sec marker are slightly different. It can probably be best seen when you have both side-by-side. Doesnt the 321 look slightly longer and narrower than the 861.
    Only differences for me was one chron hand was tear drop, other was square. One 1039 bracelet is polished, the other is brushed.

  • @jackhardinges449
    @jackhardinges449 3 года назад +2

    love your videos, William! any chance you could do one on ‘ghost’ dials?

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад +1

      Great suggestion! Ghost dials? Do you mean Ghost bezels? I am not sure what you mean by a ghost dial, though intrigued if you have something....

    • @jackhardinges449
      @jackhardinges449 3 года назад

      ah - I indeed meant ghost bezels! although ghost dials...

  • @bharding2727
    @bharding2727 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Question, how much less is a ‘68 worth with a DNN bezel? If the dial is in great shape, is it still worth buying at the “right” price? Thanks!

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад +1

      Yes, absolutely - it all depends how attractive the rest of the watch is, and how much you are prepared to spend on a correct bezel, if you can even find one.

    • @spiegelburg
      @spiegelburg 3 года назад

      Unfortunately, you can now find (otherwise really nice) transitional with a 2000s bezel.
      I think it should reduce the price as you may never be able to get the correct bezel for it.

    • @bharding2727
      @bharding2727 3 года назад

      William Speedmaster101 Thanks for the reply, seems like the perfect way to get a ‘68 on sale! Such a beautiful dial and such a small difference in the bezel 😁

    • @spiegelburg
      @spiegelburg 3 года назад

      Of course you are right, and we should not care so much about the bezel, but iirc that one was still above 7500 euro.

    • @bharding2727
      @bharding2727 3 года назад

      Bernhard Koenig exactly, thanks to our good friend’s (101) price chart, looks like a “good+” dial ‘68 with DN90 would be a good value at ~5-6k?

  • @spiegelburg
    @spiegelburg 3 года назад

    Yes, great videos, absolutely!
    How about talking bracelets? E.g. I have a 78 that came with a mint 1039. Could it still be original to the watch?

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  3 года назад

      Do you have a date mark on the 1039? I would not normally think a 1039 was originally fitted to a -78 watch, itself likely to have been released from factory 1979 or later.

    • @spiegelburg
      @spiegelburg 3 года назад

      @@Speedmaster101It seems there is no date stamp. Looks very similar to this one: omegaforums.net/threads/1039-bracelet-no-date-stamped.79860/
      The movement is actually a 39.185.xxx which is also quite early for a 78. Maybe an extract would shed some light.

  • @user-wq3sd6dz3n
    @user-wq3sd6dz3n 3 года назад +1

    なるほど🤔

  • @timedwards8171
    @timedwards8171 11 месяцев назад

    I have a question about serial numbers should I message you privately

    • @Speedmaster101
      @Speedmaster101  10 месяцев назад

      you can contact me at william@speedmaster101.com