I believe that street you asked about is Fallbrook st Woodland Hills or west hills. I live in Chatsworth right below where you are at. And also you are right, The Valley is what people call it. Lots of history here. Chatsworth and Simi is the boarder of LA county and Ventura County. I could go on but we’ll keep it short.
@@blacklabeloffroad Thanks for the info! I actually discovered a new crash while going over drone footage and the new video will be up late tonight or tomorrow morning..
There is no mystery to this. This was a stolen Corvair brought there by Bruce Davis of the Manson Family. That entire area is what was known as Spahn Ranch, where Charles Manson and his "family" hung out in the late 60's. Down by the creek not too far from where you were is the cave where they all took the famous photo for Life magazine.
Welcome to simi valley my home for 30 plus years. That was the valley you were looking at brotha. Simi valley used to be even more beautiful and super safe and quiet. I know those mountains like the back of my hand.
Wow! I saw that Corvair when it was a fresh wreak off the Santa Susana Pass before/around when the 118 Frwy was built when I was a little kid.. the original color was biege.. not related to Spahn Ranch, but nearby.. Word at the time was since it was rear engine it fish-tailed off the edge.. that was common on the Pass when it rained... apparently the wreak has been dragged form it's original location further from the pass. . The area you where at had slight changes when they built the 118 Frwy. You are looking out from the Chatworth side, that is called "The Valley", but the refers to all of the San Fernando Valley, not Simi Valley which is to the west of where you are at. I live in Simi Valley since 1962, I'm a Second Generation Real Estate Broker in that area. For a part of your hike, you looked like you where on the original Stage Coach Road from the 1800's. So where you at you are next to
Got cut off... anyways, where you are at is where there is the original stage coach road, then the Santa Susana Pass was built, then the 118. That rock you where standing on had a bowl dug in it, by the Chumash Indians, there are many sites like that, that is where they would grind the acorns from the oaks to make a mash to eat..
Yep... with your drone shot as you pull back, I can see that the car is in the lower part of the ravine and has been pulled down it.. It was much closer to the pass road when I saw it as a kid.. before the 118Frwy was built, the Pass Road was the only was the only way in and out of Simi Valley to the rest of Los Angeles, ieven in the early 60's, they would have traffic jams in an out of here every week day..
Yes, appears to be a Chevrolet Corvair as they were rear engine cars and that's where the fuel tank filler would have been. They were assembled in a variety of plants: Willow Run, MI, Oakland, CA, Leeds, MO, Oshawa, Ontario Canada, Flint, MI, and Van Nuys, CA for the US market. I think the bumper sticker on the back "Deadly Wax" refers to The Deadly Wax Record Store at 21903 Devonshire, Chatsworth, CA. I believe the other sticker is some sort of cannabis related sticker.
I learned from the Helter Skelter movie, that when asked how Charlie got an old school bus to an impossible to navigate location, out in a remote desert canyon, his girls promptly answered... "He flew it!" So that unlocks the mystery of how the cars got there, during the brief operation of Manson Airlines.
As a teenage hooligan you would find us up on that road between Simi Valley and Santa Sisana racing every night. i still remember riding horses at sphan ranch as a kid and seeing the Manson clan in the santa susana knolls area. my first house was in Chatsworth lake manor it was tiney 500-600 aquarefoot lil house where Manson kept some of his girls. oh and your only a mile or so from Americas Chernobal. it was a small sodium reactor but it had a partial melt down in the late 1950s that no one knew about till some UCLA students' reporters, if i remember right were doing research on how to build a story and came across the rocketdyne files of the incedent. lot of cool history in those hills the old stage coach route is still there. the cars are tied to the actual sphan ranch manson and his people built dune buggies for their escape to death valley.
I know where there are (or were) a couple of Fox body Mustangs abandoned not terribly far from this. We didn't notice them until a fire swept through the area and made them visible. My guess is the area is all overgrown again, though.
@@reverserockettv007 So, my recollection is that it was somewhere around the top of the Bell Canyon Fire road. Looking at current Google maps images, it almost looks like there might be a couple wrecks stacked up right next to the road, so maybe they were moved? maps.app.goo.gl/SomrxBuGUiCCCJu36
@@reverserockettv007 Oh, actually you can do a street view of the trail at that location and see them sitting right there. When I saw them, they were further away, in the field west of the trail.
Don't be so hard on yourself my friend! Remember!, your safety is #1!! We all want to sit back, and enjoy your videos, like I look forward to seeing, every time you post! If the terrain is too steep, or just too difficult to reach!! Please don't risk your life, like you have said in your other videos! We all want you to go home in one piece!!
First car was likely driven off the top of the hill above as Hollywood is prone to do. Second car looks like it traveled and was buried in mudslide, could be roads under a few feet of dirt out there somewhere. Talking while you walk dehydrates you quicker. Consider the serenity of nature as it's own commentary. Thanks for the walk, i've been wondering what's up in those hills. This is a good video to educate the "California needs to rake the leaves" people with.
great video to love to go out into nature to were you are its beautiful place to walk to 🙂 it helps me i to must do more to what you do is great to its interesting to how the cars got were they did looks like some of were you had walked at one time would of been a road at one time but now has over grown over time so now it looks so diffrent to back then i could that the lane in places would of been for a road so the cars may of been driven there back in the day and dumped but unsure ive seen over time how old roads over grow and look so diffrent i explore old roads and railways looking for history to great video great to see you back but i know also how you feel about your eyes to as now mine are just the same as yours to i to am in my 40s too take care out there to keep hurting and exploring to for cars and history to 🙂 great music to
If you go up the China Peak trail ...trailhead is at the top of Lindero Canyon rd. go up to the top...then climb west along the ridge line about a half mile..you will find a surveying marker embedded in the rock...I have no idea how old it is...but must have been used when surveying that end of the San Fernando Valley a longgggg time ago. Go find Boney Mountain trail...the other side of the valley out by the end of Lynn Road... up there you'll find an old stone cabin, crashed helicopter...some cars..even the Mash Set....and a cool waterfall.
Wowzers a Corvair! And a Bug! Both air cooled! That Corvair is a '62-'64 coupe, and I'd say it was a Monza by what's left of what appeared to be bucket seat frames. The brake master cylinder narrows it to '62-'64, and the spare tire bracket in the engine compartment, ruled out '60 (and the "peaked front end"). The master cylinder ruled out '61. Interesting to point out that Corvair could have driven quite aways further than a traditional car. In 1960 GM had an expedition in Panama, that had 3 1960 Corvair sedans drive thru the Darrin Gap, bushwacking their way thru the jungle! No roads! They had 3 support rigs (specifically equipped 1960 4x4 Chevrolet trucks) one of the cars had a catastrophic engine failure in the jungle, so they had to leave it behind (it's still there today!) The other 2 cars successfully made the complete journey! I love Corvairs, they are such neat cars!
Been there many times in the day, had NO idea Manson was down the street,Scary. Wiped out once on motorcycle, sand stone on road. Rattle snakes, coyote's, cat's, crazy people scare me the most, never saw any of them,just story's. Go the right way far enough, beach. The Valley,yup.
San Fernando Valley is on one side and Simi Valley is on the other side of Rocky Peak. I live in Simi Valley and have ridden all over theses trails but i have recently started hiking the trails to do more explorring
Hello Rocket. Thanks for the video. Here in Switzerland we have a freely accessible database with old photos of satellite images, do you have something similar in the states? So you could discover old roads that no longer exist, which might help you find cars. What a beautiful area! Good luck with your search...
Manson cave is at Santa Susana near box cyn. It goes uphill and dangerous to enter. Crazy chambers to negotiate. There's an entrance at the top,very camouflaged, maybe blocked. I went in there in 1987. Be careful if you venture in the cave system.
11:21 you are standing in the exact spot where an episode of The Mandalorian was filmed where he meets Boba Fett for the first time! Totally cool!
Really?
Beautiful location again. Well done man 😎👏🏻
Ill remember your quote, " I can only afford to look " So true for as well. Thanks!
Buenas noches, Mario, un bonito e interesante video, de los restos de los dos coches, buen trabajo, un saludo, ❤👌🖐️💪👏👍🇪🇦
Thanks!!
I believe that street you asked about is Fallbrook st Woodland Hills or west hills. I live in Chatsworth right below where you are at. And also you are right, The Valley is what people call it. Lots of history here. Chatsworth and Simi is the boarder of LA county and Ventura County. I could go on but we’ll keep it short.
@@blacklabeloffroad Thanks for the info! I actually discovered a new crash while going over drone footage and the new video will be up late tonight or tomorrow morning..
Buenas imágenes , las del dron, buena música.👌👏👍
Thanks!
There is no mystery to this. This was a stolen Corvair brought there by Bruce Davis of the Manson Family. That entire area is what was known as Spahn Ranch, where Charles Manson and his "family" hung out in the late 60's. Down by the creek not too far from where you were is the cave where they all took the famous photo for Life magazine.
Thanks for the info!!
Yes Bruce Davis’ yellow Corvair.
In fact there are two other cars mostly buried within 30’ of that Corvair on the other side of the trial 💁♂️
@@steveharris6916 How did they get all those cars up there? The terrain is so rough.
@bombaybeach208 I believe there was fire roads that are no longer accessible so it’s all overgrown now.
Welcome to simi valley my home for 30 plus years. That was the valley you were looking at brotha. Simi valley used to be even more beautiful and super safe and quiet. I know those mountains like the back of my hand.
i moved here in 1964 it was very much a rural cowboy farming town.
Wow! I saw that Corvair when it was a fresh wreak off the Santa Susana Pass before/around when the 118 Frwy was built when I was a little kid.. the original color was biege.. not related to Spahn Ranch, but nearby.. Word at the time was since it was rear engine it fish-tailed off the edge.. that was common on the Pass when it rained... apparently the wreak has been dragged form it's original location further from the pass. . The area you where at had slight changes when they built the 118 Frwy. You are looking out from the Chatworth side, that is called "The Valley", but the refers to all of the San Fernando Valley, not Simi Valley which is to the west of where you are at. I live in Simi Valley since 1962, I'm a Second Generation Real Estate Broker in that area. For a part of your hike, you looked like you where on the original Stage Coach Road from the 1800's. So where you at you are next to
Got cut off... anyways, where you are at is where there is the original stage coach road, then the Santa Susana Pass was built, then the 118. That rock you where standing on had a bowl dug in it, by the Chumash Indians, there are many sites like that, that is where they would grind the acorns from the oaks to make a mash to eat..
Yep... with your drone shot as you pull back, I can see that the car is in the lower part of the ravine and has been pulled down it.. It was much closer to the pass road when I saw it as a kid.. before the 118Frwy was built, the Pass Road was the only was the only way in and out of Simi Valley to the rest of Los Angeles, ieven in the early 60's, they would have traffic jams in an out of here every week day..
Thanks for the videos. I always look forward to seeing whet you discover. Regards from Ody Slim
Thanks for watching!
Yes, appears to be a Chevrolet Corvair as they were rear engine cars and that's where the fuel tank filler would have been. They were assembled in a variety of plants: Willow Run, MI, Oakland, CA, Leeds, MO, Oshawa, Ontario Canada, Flint, MI, and Van Nuys, CA for the US market.
I think the bumper sticker on the back "Deadly Wax" refers to The Deadly Wax Record Store at 21903 Devonshire, Chatsworth, CA. I believe the other sticker is some sort of cannabis related sticker.
@@googleusergp there is usually a Spahn Ranch Worker SRW sticker on that car.
I learned from the Helter Skelter movie, that when asked how Charlie got an old school bus to an impossible to navigate location, out in a remote desert canyon, his girls promptly answered... "He flew it!" So that unlocks the mystery of how the cars got there, during the brief operation of Manson Airlines.
I, know for sure, I wouldn't do anything like this! You are braver than you think!! 👍
I appreciate that!
As a teenage hooligan you would find us up on that road between Simi Valley and Santa Sisana racing every night. i still remember riding horses at sphan ranch as a kid and seeing the Manson clan in the santa susana knolls area. my first house was in Chatsworth lake manor it was tiney 500-600 aquarefoot lil house where Manson kept some of his girls. oh and your only a mile or so from Americas Chernobal. it was a small sodium reactor but it had a partial melt down in the late 1950s that no one knew about till some UCLA students' reporters, if i remember right were doing research on how to build a story and came across the rocketdyne files of the incedent. lot of cool history in those hills the old stage coach route is still there. the cars are tied to the actual sphan ranch manson and his people built dune buggies for their escape to death valley.
Thanks for the info!!
great video thanks
I have been to it 😊 thank you very much
Be careful of rattlesnakes if going on Simi side. They are aplenty!
I know where there are (or were) a couple of Fox body Mustangs abandoned not terribly far from this. We didn't notice them until a fire swept through the area and made them visible. My guess is the area is all overgrown again, though.
Could you send me the location and I will go film it?
@@reverserockettv007 So, my recollection is that it was somewhere around the top of the Bell Canyon Fire road. Looking at current Google maps images, it almost looks like there might be a couple wrecks stacked up right next to the road, so maybe they were moved? maps.app.goo.gl/SomrxBuGUiCCCJu36
@@reverserockettv007 Oh, actually you can do a street view of the trail at that location and see them sitting right there. When I saw them, they were further away, in the field west of the trail.
@@RocketToTheMoose I will try and research it! Thanks!!
Don't be so hard on yourself my friend! Remember!, your safety is #1!! We all want to sit back, and enjoy your videos, like I look forward to seeing, every time you post! If the terrain is too steep, or just too difficult to reach!! Please don't risk your life, like you have said in your other videos! We all want you to go home in one piece!!
Thank you, I will.
First car was likely driven off the top of the hill above as Hollywood is prone to do. Second car looks like it traveled and was buried in mudslide, could be roads under a few feet of dirt out there somewhere. Talking while you walk dehydrates you quicker. Consider the serenity of nature as it's own commentary. Thanks for the walk, i've been wondering what's up in those hills. This is a good video to educate the "California needs to rake the leaves" people with.
great video to love to go out into nature to were you are its beautiful place to walk to 🙂 it helps me i to must do more to what you do is great to its interesting to how the cars got were they did looks like some of were you had walked at one time would of been a road at one time but now has over grown over time so now it looks so diffrent to back then i could that the lane in places would of been for a road so the cars may of been driven there back in the day and dumped but unsure ive seen over time how old roads over grow and look so diffrent i explore old roads and railways looking for history to great video great to see you back but i know also how you feel about your eyes to as now mine are just the same as yours to i to am in my 40s too take care out there to keep hurting and exploring to for cars and history to 🙂 great music to
Thanks!!
@@reverserockettv007 thats ok 🙂 keep up the great work to
That was quite an adventure.
Thanks!
If you go up the China Peak trail ...trailhead is at the top of Lindero Canyon rd. go up to the top...then climb west along the ridge line about a half mile..you will find a surveying marker embedded in the rock...I have no idea how old it is...but must have been used when surveying that end of the San Fernando Valley a longgggg time ago. Go find Boney Mountain trail...the other side of the valley out by the end of Lynn Road... up there you'll find an old stone cabin, crashed helicopter...some cars..even the Mash Set....and a cool waterfall.
Wow!!! Thanks for the info!!
Wowzers a Corvair! And a Bug! Both air cooled! That Corvair is a '62-'64 coupe, and I'd say it was a Monza by what's left of what appeared to be bucket seat frames. The brake master cylinder narrows it to '62-'64, and the spare tire bracket in the engine compartment, ruled out '60 (and the "peaked front end"). The master cylinder ruled out '61. Interesting to point out that Corvair could have driven quite aways further than a traditional car. In 1960 GM had an expedition in Panama, that had 3 1960 Corvair sedans drive thru the Darrin Gap, bushwacking their way thru the jungle! No roads! They had 3 support rigs (specifically equipped 1960 4x4 Chevrolet trucks) one of the cars had a catastrophic engine failure in the jungle, so they had to leave it behind (it's still there today!) The other 2 cars successfully made the complete journey! I love Corvairs, they are such neat cars!
Great story!
Man, nice but watch out for those flying rattlesnakes !
Been there many times in the day, had NO idea Manson was down the street,Scary. Wiped out once on motorcycle, sand stone on road. Rattle snakes, coyote's, cat's, crazy people scare me the most, never saw any of them,just story's. Go the right way far enough, beach. The Valley,yup.
San Fernando Valley is on one side and Simi Valley is on the other side of Rocky Peak. I live in Simi Valley and have ridden all over theses trails but i have recently started hiking the trails to do more explorring
Could be Manson'family car
It is. Bruce Davis stole it and brought it up there.
16:14 - Definitely 'Unsafe at Any Speed' at this point...
Hello Rocket. Thanks for the video.
Here in Switzerland we have a freely accessible database with old photos of satellite images, do you have something similar in the states? So you could discover old roads that no longer exist, which might help you find cars.
What a beautiful area! Good luck with your search...
Yes we use google maps and google earth. I appreciate you watching all the way from Switzerland!!
Going to walk the dogs first. Then enjoy this one. Keep them coming Mario.
I know of a volkswagen out in the topanga hills if you want to take a hike with me i will show you
The street might have been Fallbrook.
20:25 looks like a sacrificial grove area. Go back late at night near pagan holidays, lol.
i remember when that corvair was more or less a complete car minus the engine and rar suspension.
RIP CANDACE.
the corvair was a 62-63 if i remember right
The holes are known as METATES,or BRM.....,bedrock mortars.
Manson cave is at Santa Susana near box cyn. It goes uphill and dangerous to enter. Crazy chambers to negotiate. There's an entrance at the top,very camouflaged, maybe blocked. I went in there in 1987. Be careful if you venture in the cave system.
Is this the Santa Susana pass?
Yea
My weekend is complete
Was the trespassing car any interesting or too new?
I believe one was a 350 Z and an old ford truck. There was also a 50s car unrecognizable as well.
When you ask what road i think it was the 101 freeway
YAWN.....
Many other channels out there for you to watch.
Ranger Smith
It's an Oldsmobile super 88
Roled put there, stolen.....
B. S. SSDD!!!
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Your audio lacks sufficient high frequencies to be intelligible. Muffled sounding.
Stolen!!!!.