A's DROP new Renderings - Instant Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Here's their press release info:
OAKLAND, Calif. - The Athletics, Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG), and HNTB have unveiled the design for the A’s new ballpark project in Las Vegas on the Tropicana site. BIG will serve as the design lead and HNTB as the sports/hospitality designer and architect of record.
"The collaboration between BIG’s creativity and HNTB’s technical expertise allows for a truly innovative and bold design while ensuring an unmatched fan experience,” said Athletics Managing Partner and Owner John Fisher. “We hope to add to the dynamic atmosphere and liveliness of the Las Vegas Strip, creating a welcoming environment for all of Southern Nevada.”
Shaped by its location on the Las Vegas Strip, the 33,000-person capacity ballpark provides an outdoor feel with views of the city’s skyline. The tiered design will split upper and lower seating bowls to bring fans closer to the action than traditional ballparks and provide clear sight lines from every seat. The roof's five overlapping layers, whose design is inspired by traditional baseball pennants, open to the north to allow for natural light and views up the Strip, while also limiting direct sunlight and heat from the south. The outfield features the world’s largest cable-net glass window, facing the corner of Tropicana and Las Vegas Boulevards. The ballpark is currently designed to include an 18,000-square-foot jumbotron, which would make it the largest screen in MLB.
“Our design for the new Vegas home for the A’s is conceived in response to the unique culture and climate of the city,’” said Bjarke Ingels, Founder and Creative Director of BIG. “Five pennant arches enclose the ballpark - shading from the Nevada sun while opening to the soft daylight from the north. A giant window frames a majestic view of the life of the Strip and the iconic New York New York hotel skyline. All direct sunlight is blocked, while all the soft daylight is allowed to wash the field in natural light.
“The resultant architecture is like a spherical armadillo - shaped by the local climate - while opening and inviting the life of the Strip to enter and explore. In the city of spectacle, the A’s ‘armadillo’ is designed for passive shading and natural light - the architectural response to the Nevada climate generating a new kind of vernacular icon in Vegas.”
The ballpark will occupy nine acres of the 35-acre Tropicana site. Bally’s and GLPI are working on a master plan for a related resort development. The specifics of that process, including towers, locations, and phases will be determined in the coming months.
“We are excited to continue to collaborate with Bally’s and GLPI on this project. Together, we see a unique opportunity for this site and look forward to seeing this vision come to life,” said Fisher.
“The A's have created a remarkable design that adds to the rich fabric of must-see attractions in Las Vegas,” said Bally’s Chairman Soo Kim. “This is a once-in-a-generation project, and we are thrilled for the opportunity to develop a comprehensive site plan at this iconic location. We look forward to sharing more on our plan in due course.”
The ballpark plan supports up to 2,500 on-site parking spots, as well as a two- to three-acre plaza that starts in the northwest corner of the site and extends to the ballpark’s main concourse. The overall parking plan will be determined in partnership with Bally’s and GLPI. The A’s are also working with Clark County and NDOT on traffic and transportation plans to ensure easy access to the stadium and will work with the Regional Transportation Commission on additional services such as the express bus service currently provided for T-Mobile Arena and Allegiant Stadium. Not only will this ease congestion, but it will reduce emissions.
BIG will lead the master planning of the ballpark design, with HNTB collaborating on the design and serving as the architect of record. BIG previously presented a design for the team's Oakland ballpark, while HNTB was the architect for the Raiders' Allegiant Stadium.
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My first thought was there is no way that is fitting on 9 acres.
Same agreed.
Agreed, that was my first impression
Bahahaha. A bunch of architectural experts in the comment section....
A's are gone.
Face the facts.
It will all be over soon.
It’s only a 33,000 seat stadium. A baseball field is about 4.5 acres so the other 4.5 acres will be the stands for the fans and the rest of the stadium. I’m sure the architects will figure it out. Target Field in Minnesota, the smallest MLB stadium footprint takes up about 8.5 acres of land.
How many feet are in 9 acres genius.
Where’s the hotel in the renderings?
That's not part of this build bub
Missing.
It’s on the actual corner of Las Vegas BLVD and Tropicana so what difference does it make?
@@shup. Chucklehead, everything about the hotel could make or break this project. That view could potentially be blocked by a casino/hotel.
@@togoandmoss The stadium, according to everything presented to us, is supposed to be on the opposite side of the property. So showing the hotel/casino is extremely important. That view they are gushing over could be a view of a hotel tower a few hundred yards away. So that’s why it’s important to see.
Its claustrophobic to me
And they could have had Howard Terminal. Unbelievable
But it’s in Oakland 😅….
@@805fillmore Smarter people would have used that as a way to revitalize the City, but no.
Where does the hotel go? Where are the lights? Why is the batters' eye off center?
@@tmxv-bg8cz It is a render, not a photograph of the real thing! Definitely the A's won't have a ugly Mount Davis in Las Vegas...
@@tmxv-bg8cz The red and gray uniforms are for the visiting team. In that rendering the A's are a bat wearing white uniforms. Note the scoreboard shows an A's player at bat.
That "scoreboard' angle is absolutely ridiculous
Maybe, but it will be the LARGEST scoreboard in the MLB... Without any doubt whatsoever...
@@ronclark9724I like the unique scoreboard
It's unbelievable. Great idea.
You're wrong. Bye bye Oakland
you people will complain about anything !!!!
My heart aches for Oakland
Unfortunately, Oakland couldn't CLOSE the real estate deal... One wonders whether Oakland wanted to CLOSE the deal... A MLB team is PRECIOUS, but apparently not in Oakland...
@@ronclark9724 Just a reminder....Fisher was asking for too much. A lot of free land to invest in businesses other than the baseball site.
@@P31B will u be attending the A's game in Vegas
Nope.
@@jasonvoss6559 yes u will. See u at the ⚾️ game
If the A's go, and no new Northern CA expansion. I'm done with MLB.
Get ready to say your goodbyes, the A’s are moving and Northern California isn’t getting an expansion team.
@@curtis1997 maybe
it looks ugly
So does Fisher 🤬
Yeah, I don't like it either. It will be outdated in 10 years like most Vegas buildings.
@@oiler62 only Snitzer steel keeps it burning 🔥
Of course, the renderings are off a little. They show a stadium FULL of fans. 😉
Something Oaklands knows nothing of 😜
Must be the middle of the game, or the fans would be stuck in Vegas traffic, or walking a mile in the heat to whatever parking structure or the Uber pick-up location du jour. Few will ever see a game from start to finish.
😂
So-Fi meets the Hollywood bowl meets the Sydney Australia opera house …What a freaking joke .. It’s hideous
There is NO way Fisher will pay for that. He better get going on taking more money from school kids in Vegas to fund that project…
That was rejected.
What school kids? That scam group schools over stadiums doesn’t mind talking money from Oakland kids.
@@jacobdye4037 not so much as you think…. Go ask the schools over stadiums PAC!
Architects: "No, wait. Wad these up too. These were the out-of-budget concept drawings. Fisher paid for Jiffy Pop"...
Meanwhile Dennys and In & Out leave Oakland. Lolololol.
Nobody want to set foot in that toilet of a city bub
What a joke!
Is it going to be called armadillo willys ballpark
It looks absolutely ridicules...SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!
That is a TOTAL fantasy.
1) Still too big.
2) There is absolutely ZERO chance MLB or the MLBPA will allow at video board roof.
3) There is absolutely ZERO chance MLB or the MLBPA will allow a center field design that doesn't include a proper "batter's eye" which doesn't exist in that first rendering.
4) Includes a two to three acre plaza? So they're building the stadium on 6-7 acres now?
John Fisher is a total MORON. Forget the things MLB and the MLBPA will never stand for, there is ZERO chance you're building that for $1.5 Billion, and it's highly suspect that John Fisher can even get that much financing.
The only thing that makes sense with this is the fact that it does look like the Sydney Opera House. At least it fits in with the Statue of Liberty and Eiffel Tower that already exists there.
No surrounding hotels and certainly some expensive (and at times unrealistic) looking design. If this stadium does come to fruition I’m sure we’ll be looking at something much different and much more expensive than anticipated. It’s insane that we have waited this long at we still don’t see the Bally’s additions to the property
All in time....they build and get projects (hotels, casinos) done in 2 weeks in Vegas bub.
Unlike shitty California
ya right
Is it just me or is it strange that in all the renderings perspectives shown dont actually give a perspective on the full site. Maybe this stadium pictured in these renderings is still too big for the 9 acers they are limited to and or is unbuildable. I feel like they are hiding something. That could affect potential investors. I presume the only reason they are releasing renderings now is because they need to, to get investors.
Nope....good try though.
Maybe; once you saw that last stadium with the full site you obviously knew it wasn't a 9 acre ballpark. And if I were designing a 9 acre ballpark, I wouldn't waste space on a promenade walking into the stadium from the outfield.
The big window in the outfield is where the sun sets during the summer and fall. The worlds biggest greenhouse. And 1B is going to have a great time catching throws from the infield near sunset.
Yeah I’m sure you know more than the architects. Go back to flipping burgers in east Oakland while your Honda gets robbed.
Don't forget the temp at night is still 99 degrees in Vegas summer. Can't imagine the long walk to the car both before and after a game...
@@sheryll5330 I would expect the monorail to eventually be integrated into this strucure.
@@805fillmore Until we see an response to the problem, it stands. Perhaps the windows can be covered at that time of day. We'll see.
Underwhelming
I can't lie that looks dope
It's incredible
Looks awesome as a dodgers fan. Can’t wait to watch a game in Vegas/
Fisher won't pony up the $. Dude wouldn't do it for Fremont, SJ, Oakland and now LV.
Revealing how much a LOSER state California is today....
Who wants to build in Oakland?
Lolololol.
Nobody wants to live or vacation in that toilet of a city.
Pull your head out bub
You have to turn your neck all the way for a score watch 😂
Or watch the game on the field
so based on these renderings I could not buy a ticket and just stand outside the giant window and watch the game for free (eg @0:44)? Excellent.
Yes and by doing that you’ll be finding the stadium through your tourism tax in that area 😂😂
@@805fillmoreFINDING?
Another AI generated piece of crap. Lots of flaws. 9 acres? Left field no seats?, Roof where players cant see the ball?, Bullpen? The rest of the Bally's resort? I could go on. #selltheteam
There’s very little that make sense in these renderings …. If they build that… sure it looks cool. I think if executed like that it would be a cool building….. Oakland renderings still look better on the water front though.
But what I don’t see in the Vegas design is a hotel anywhere which would be in front of that Vegas view window. This looks like it takes the entire property up just like the first fake renderings….
It poses many questions. I wonder what the casino design would entail…
this is done in partnership with Ballys ... those answers have been ironed out ... most likely released soon.
@@togoandmoss what is your source? Ballys made a statement that the answers were not ironed out that they were waiting on the A's renderings to start.
@@robertpuffer9721 GLPI and Ballys said the A’s and Ballys are working closely together…. The renderings would not conflict with ongoing designs.
@@togoandmoss it does look like it takes up the entire property again though.
@@stefanbrown5872 I don’t think so … the stadium ends at the back of the stands… I hope it were a little bigger than the 9 acres… its a joint design between Ballys, A’s, and GLPI so it is what it is…. I am sure it received joint approval prior to release.
Remember Vegas, where the A's go so does Fisher.
Let the learning begin !!
Sydney Opera house was obviously a huge intentional influence
Sydney Opera House is on a world class harbor. Sounds like San Francisco Bay.
It's similar but when you really look at both, they aren't that similar. SOH is spread out with several arch type pieces, and not very cohesive with a concrete bottom part. A's rendering is very cohesive and no concrete bottom part that sticks out like SOH. It reminds me more so of how ATL's stadium is structured. A cool modern baseball stadium for LV too. Need something unique. Some of the new stadiums like sofi, Minny's, and ATL's are very different than the norm. This one fits in with that. Really like the inside window with cable net.
@@PatrickVaughan-qq5wl luckily the SF bay already has a team: the giants lol.
Where is the hotel and no way this fits in 9 acres
If they had more acres, they can really build something much better that made sense. This may look good but it’s not realistic! I see him selling team
Sure bub. Lololol.
It's over for Oakland.
Face the facts
@@shup.Face the facts, A’s aren’t wanted there! Maybe 5 people want them! Nobovdy cares
Looks exactly the same as their first set of renderings just with the opera house added lol.
I love how they said it’s an armadillo when everyone knows they just stole from Sydney 😂
I won't make the same copyright infringement claims that everyone else seems to like make. It looks nothing like an Armadillo, looks more like a turd crossed with an Artichoke. We'll call it Turdblossom Park.
This will never happen.
Where’s the bullpen , lights , left field seating ? There’s so much missing in this rendering
This is what 1.5 billion may get you. Couldn't budget in the other stuff.
It's a rendering.....don't be a fool
These don't look real either. Not enough detail to take them seriously.
Mlb probably won't allow ballparks with white ceilings.
The Building at New York New York will block the Sunset, Fish and designer said it will not interfere with batter eye
nice conception. too bad john wont pay for it.
Thank God the tax payers and the Casino will
Not surprised, after the sphere, they can't go low ballin and compromise on this one! 👽😈
Doesn't look real mlb stadium
The Sydney Opera House doesn't resemble a opera house either, but it is...
I think that is the point..... they really did knock it out of the park though....
@@togoandmoss nope no good, looks like a museum.
It's the Sdney opera house in Australia. The Roof doesn't meet the FAA requirements
Bahahahahahaha.
Good try though skippy
It doesn’t fly so the FFA doesn’t have much to say about it!! 😂😂😂
There might be a case; the Tropicana was built before the airport's expansion, so the center tower (as opposed to the one closest to the strip) of the current hotel might be grandfathered in.
The reason why Bally's and GLPI can't give away too much land is because they can't build above a certain height.
BIG??? Well this stadium is gonna SUCK!!!!
Will it happen? Nope
John Fischer fake phony bologne only care about that bread? Yup
I like the picture where the albino sand worm stadium appears to be eating Circus Circus. Of course, since the A's actual lot is only 9 acres (just a pinch bigger than the Bellagio fountain), to have this height, passengers/fans will have to be harnessed in and suspended from the walls. But not the giant TV wall that will be learing down on the players throughout the game. No issue there with losing sight of the ball. At least John Fisher will not have to pay A/C bills for this open air stadium, same way he won't pay for players. This is the dawning of the MLB's "Vegas Generals" - the team that is beat by all of the other globetrotting teams and somehow still has the worst (but new) ball park in baseball... Too bad the kids in Nevada won't be able to read all about it.
😂😂 the best, thank you!
This is a great looking park.
OK, so where are all us octogenarians with handicapped plates supposed to park? Or we supposed to walk a couple of miles from our hotels? In case you didn't notice, a lot of Oakland A's fans were Oaks fans as well. Yes, I'm the guy in the Oaks jersey.
Tax dollars at work
The fans in right field won’t be able to appreciate MLB’s largest scoreboard if it’s behind them. Will they have to turn around to see the count? The batter’s stats? Pitch speed? R/H/E?
I like 👍🏻
1) Hard to tell if this is still within 9 acres. It does not appear to just be utilizing the back corner.
2) It doesn't have the Bally's hotel, which apparently will consume the view of the Vegas strip. Bally's need to get some return on their investment through free advertising, rather than having a view of their competitor MGM.
3) Not sure if there are any consequences of the windows and the lights coming from the stadium, which could be a safety hazard affecting the pilots navigating close to the LV airport.
Other than that, very nice design...as much as it hurts as an OAKLAND fan. But we shall see if this is realistic. It could just be to get the LV fans interested in the A's, since there seems to be very little interest of late. Similar to the unrealistic original renderings that fooled all their locals....got them excited during the public money vote....for the A's to shortly after getting their money approved saying there will be new and more true renderings coming at a later date.
You can already see the Las Vegas strip from outer space…. We knew we would hear airport “noise” coming from the Bay Area if it was a retractable roof but not a closed dome! The MGM embraced the new stadium…. It means millions of dollars to them…. The stadium is the actual corner of Tropicana and Las Vegas Blvd …. But other than that you nailed it!! 😂😂😂
John Fisher will SELL the team at Maximum value hits....
Yup, he's not in it for the long haul.
Good place for the Savanna Bananas maybe but not a real MLB team. What player wants to be part of a Vegas Circus act and a "side act" at that compared to all the real talent on the strip. Keep the A's in Oakland.
Looks ridiculous
FJF!! SELL THE TEAM!!
No way that cost $1.5 bill... Its gonna have cost overruns for sure...
Let the A’s name and branding stay in Oakland. John Fisher can have the Las Vegas Armadillos.
Nothing beats the coli
Howard Terminal would of been cool but a new Coliseum with the great fans would be sweet too.
@@oiler62 i agree💚💛
Bahahahaha
Weird that someone doesn't know how to pronounce "armadillo."
It's a done deal!!! The shovels are in the ground!!! It sucks!!!
Not sure why people care that it looks like the Sydney opera house.
Why does the entire city have to fund it and not just baseball fans
so a rip off of the Sydney Opera House..
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Looks like a bad circus building
I’ll believe it win it’s done, who is paying for this I don’t think fisher will come up with the money
These are still very misleading as the Tropicana is intentionally omitted. The only way for this project to make sense for Bally’s is to wrap their building around the stadium in the shape of an L on the northern and western sides of the lot. This would effectively give guests at the hotel a view of the roof without a view of the field, while fans would look through that glass to see…a building, or more specifically an up close and personal view of the Casino. And I think therein lies the point of this all. Every single A’s fan, Yankees fan, Dodgers fan, etc. will tune in to watch a game and be bombarded by this casino as a living, breathing advertisement all game long, every time there’s a fly ball, a home run or any view of the outfield, they get free air time. When fans want to go to Vegas for a weekend, this will be top of mind as a place to stay.
I hate it.
I find the stadium decent, certainly the best looking indoor baseball stadium, but it’s just not very compelling.
If they can pull this off, this would be an amazing stadium.
A couple of questions though: will it be covered, eventually, by a casino? It’ll eventually sit behind a casino, right? And secondly, opening day -2028? Remember, it’s Fisher… I kinda doubt it
Fisher doesn't have to deal with a third world country like Oakland basically is.
Not to mention it's damn near impossible to build in California.
It is on the NW corner of the property….
I was under the impression that the casino would be closest to the strip.
@@HHSGDFootballJPD well you were under the wrong impression then …. Renderings,
Description confirming the stadium is on the very corner.
@@shup. “impossible to build in California”? Weird… Sofi (Rams) went up not too long ago, the Clippers have an arena opening soon, the Soul and Roots are trying to get something in Oakland… amongst other stuff… but I guess you’re right.
And I’ve been to Oakland, “third world country”? 😂🤣 Okay… maybe look up what that term means, and the word “basically”, and some info on the city. 🤷🏻♂️
Armadillo lol, what a joke.
too
big for the site
I love that you know more than the architect.
Bahahaha.
Typical Oakland cry baby.
It's OK, it will all be over soon.
This guy's gotta attitude problem
Yeah ok. Ready for my dodgers to go to Las Vegas to play your A’s?
LV A(rmadillo)’s
Gross
armadeeyoo? bruh come on
It’s ugly 🗑️
Schools over Stadiums just got a leg up
Yeah right.
Bahahahaha.
Keep dreaming bub.
Yeah right.
Keep dreaming bub
Did they do another fundraiser in Oakland?
LOL those scam artists have no leg up in anything except stealing money from Oakland fans. Might as well take idiot Oakland fans money for something that will never happen 😂
The exterior is gorgeous. The interior? Meh.. That curved scoreboard is garbage. And I agree with @00negative, no way that is within 9 acres. Also convenient, they left the Bally's high rises in left and right field views out of the rendering.
Can't be on 9 acres plus id like to see a rendering of what Bally's is planning to build. That view of MGM and NY/NY might go bye bye.
Always love architect-speak. A lot of word salad. The design though does look spectacular and if built would be a nice addition to the strip. It better be spectacular in order to get tourists to want to go to the games. That same architect designed an interesting looking project in NYC next door to the United Nations campus. It's six and a half acres so he does seem to be able to make big things fit in smallish spaces. I still don't see any hotel buildings and how it will all fit together. Time will tell.
Armadillos are the only animal (besides humans) that get leprosy. Just sayin'.
Beautiful Stadium,,,
It is? Ugly and not good for people with vertigo.
I’ll be honest if the A’s do go from the Coli to something like this, that would be absolutely wild😂
That scoreboard placement will do wonders for people who have vertigo like me 🤮
So I guess bullpens are optional and you have to bring your own chair if you want to sit in left field ..
How do you catch a pop up with that neon green stuff overhead as background?
Should have put money into the team instead of this temple to failure
A's are GONE
No wall in left field is certainly a choice, as is turning the NBA All Star light up court into a roof
Zennie is in Atlanta punching the air big mad😂😂😂
Isn't an armadillo a possum with a shell?
I have an instant reaction. Looking at these renderings, I really think zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😴😴😴😴
It looks amazing and it will be!!!
This is all on 9 acres ???
Were are the bullpens …
las vegas needs to part ways with the A’s …….. that thing will be an embarrassing empty stadium as long as current ownership remains in place. this move is going to be a bust!!
Arm a dill o
not
armadeeeeeeyo
It’s funnier the way I said it
This is nice design. Sorry Oakland it’s over
Save your sympathy.
Baseball should incorporate tradition by way of traditional architecture. Not a fan of this but glad design for a baseball stadium, but glad that Vegas and the A's are moving forward non-the-less. Some people will really like this design I'm sure!
But most won't. It's pretty bad.
arma-dil-o
I’ve been studying Spanish. My brain went right to Spanish pronunciation on the double L.
@@CaseyPrattCreations we know what you were saying…. Thanks for the straight forward coverage
Stadium looks great. Much better and nicer than the last image of the stadium i saw.
Let’s goooo !!
It looks awesome and if it gets built I can guarantee you that fans from all over will go and catch a series. The Raiders built a stadium that draws many and if the A's get this done, so will they. A's fans should be excited. I'm sad they are leaving Oakland but at least they are leaving for something magnificent.
You said it perfectly.
Idiot hacks like Pratt and dip shit Brodie will never admit it though