A Guide to Dark Ages Irish Politics
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- A quick guide to Dark Ages Irish Politics and History. I've been having some issues with editing software and the like so this video is a bit more rustic. More on this soon. Thanks for watching!
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Great video, I especially like the clear and concise graphics. I can see some great improvements to how you're making your videos!
Griff
The armchair historian!
Awesome as always
For such a small country Ireland has one of the most interesting historys. Great video. Really enjoy watching these.
Are you saying that Brian Boru lived to 87 years old and only died because he was killed in battle?! What a badass haha
Enda O'Halloran And my last name means Descendent of Brian Boru 😆
Enda O'Halloran he got beheaded by a group of Viking deserters while he was praying
My surname means decendant of the warrior
O or Ui usually means 'Grandson of' whereas Mac (or Mc) means the 'Son of'
Women had different prefixes of 'Daughter of' or 'Granddaughter of' but that tradition went away as Ireland became more Anglicized
Basically the O'Brien family is the family of the grandson(s) of Brian Boru
netherlands requires a cameo in every video no matter what
Aye
Anime Elf yes it shall be hilbert thing
My I ask why, expet for the; Containership moving, Hagelslag eating, Tulip growing, ocean conquering resons?
Abyssaljam maybe because Hilbert is Dutch?
Maybe, however, he dosn't sound Dutch.
tbh he doesn't sound like he has much of an accent at all to me.
Talk about Poland-Lithuania
Tomcz12333 yea i wana learn about polish history it seems to be repressed
I love your channel! It's well written and well produce. Since you are making references to the old Dutch,it will be nice for me as an Indonesian to observe Dutch point of view of colonialism. What we learned from our history book,the voc were the baddy.
Ps: in Indonesia we are still pretty much using Frisian flag condense milk for our beverages and whatnot,we are calling it Susu bendera, literally flag's milk.
"Celts is a bit of misdemeanor," your videos are informative and unintentionally hilarious.
Nice work Hilbert! This is definitely worth a bigger investigation into the Irish history as it's so fecking vast when you take into account the different cycles and the mythological tales attached. Also, the idea of the neolithic societies of Ireland who would've been responsible for the building of the large tombs Newgrange, and many more.
The Ulster cycles were more predominant in the Irish legend system as Uí Néill was the main chieftain when it came to international affairs. The likes of Cú Chulainn and the Táin gives a massive insight into the power systems within Ireland and the standard of society, though the stories are heavily embellished with transliteral expressions.
Funny thing, I was once playing a frisian nobleman in Crusader Kings 2 and this cousin of my character decided to go adventuring and conquered a province in Ireland, a province in Ulster I believe it was or Connacth. Sadly his adventuring didn't lead to a Frisian Ireland, but a few provinces there assimilated to the Frisian culture. Fun game :).
Patrick did not bring Christianity to Ireland. According to the chronicle of Prosper of Aquitaine, the Pope sent Palladius to be the first bishop to the Christians in Ireland in 431. Later Irish chroniclers did not know precisely when Patrick arrived in Ireland but they had Palladius' chronicle so they "dated" Patrick's arrival to be one year later than this in 432. In spite of the missionary activities of Patrick (and his own claims) he was not the first to bring Christianity to the island.
Sorry if someone already mentioned this but the -ster endings of Munster, Leinster and Ulster most likely came from Viking influence (stadr) rather than from the Irish word tir. First because the counties already had Irish names of Uladh, Laighin and Mhumhan. Second because Connacht was the only area not conquered by the Vikings and therefore kept its original Irish name. This can be found in Myths and Legends of the Celtic Race by TW Rolleston. Love your channel and videos BTW!
I learn something new EVERY day. Thank you!!! X
Nice facts, many of the norse names of places in caithness, orkney and Shetland have "ster" at the end of them. For example Scrabster, haster, ulbster, etc. This was areas of massive norse heritage and migration.
0:34 "misdemeanour" should be "misnomer"
Love the vids!
Thanks Hilbert, Niall got his name because he supposedly held nine subservient kingdoms, including some in Britain.
Many Scottish clans claimed in their medieval pedigrees to be descended from him although that may not be fashionable to admit to today.
He was killed in battle outside of Ireland and carried back by his army.
Thanks again.
Tír Na nÓg was a mythical island where people never aged as long as they never set foot on the mainland again
live the vid can't wait for more
You left out the best kingdom, the Kingdom of Meath. It was traditionally the kingdom who's king held the title of High King of Ireland
The fifth province at the time. Therefore why 'cúige' or 'fifth' means province in Irish. Everyone fought over Meath to gain the High Kingship
great video plz make more about ireland!!!
As an Irish man studying the Irish language as part of a course in Traditional Irish music I feel that it is my duty to say, yes; you are absolutely "Butchering" the language. (Capital B in the word butchering) Your Irish pronunciation is about as good as me trying to say Scheveningen in Dutch or the word Graag with that CHHHH sounding G. It's absolutely terrible. I love it. ;) Love the channel and thanks for doing a bit on Ireland.
You are correct I think. Of course if he were using Old Irish, the pronunciation would be different...
Nobody cares, of course its not right
1:05 So... did Connacht used to refer to the north half of Ireland?? And what is that other one?
Surprised by the lack of political wars in the comments regarding n. Ireland etc. Nice video. I like the laid back commentary style
That Anthem sent a tear rolling down my red-white-and-blue cheek.
Tir na nóg means land of the young not fairies. Nice video though.
EXCELLENT VIDEO!
Fabulous loved it
Great video to set the scene for the tutorial of CK3
My tribe the kenneds or Óceannáide are direct discendants of Brian Borús grandsoon i thought you woudve mentioned that
More Dutch references please
Súigh mo bhód !!
Thank you very interesting.
Native Irish speaker here. You didn't butcher the Irish words too badly.
Now this is a guide that teaches me something i can use in my life
How to get a mortgage < How to become fluent in the Politics of Dark Age Ireland
Quick correction, the English names for the provinces of Ireland come from Norse - not the Irish language names. So tír did not give rise to the 'ter' suffix, as Irish grammar would place that at the start of the word (Tyrone comes from Tír Éoin - Owens' land).
The Norse suffix 'staðr' gives rise to 'ster' in Ulster (from Ulaid, drop the 'aid' suffix and add the Norse one), Munster (from Mumu, drop the 'u' and add 'ster') and Leinster. Leinster is entirely of Norse etymology - the Irish called it Laigin - it was the same Kingdom however.
Dont Wake The Insomniac the irish word for wolf is mac tir
Did I just hear someone say Celtic is a linguistic label?! Glad to hear other people realize this, keep up the intelligence Hilbert!
seen a lecture where the professor said "niall" was the old irish way for spelling neil do you know if it is nial or neil
So if O'brian (Star Trek Next Gen, DS9) were to meet O'neil (SG1) there might be some issues?
1:27 Instant video like
This was very good keep on making episodes and more diverse subjects (Traansvaal Civil war *wink wink*) but this is extremely good.Btw I also found out I am 50% Boer guess what that 49% of that is dutch! So Ek is Baie Gellukid VIR DIE VADERLAND.
lol'd at the netherlands national anthem and the zoom on the flag :)))))) love that bit
Can you do a video on the druids?
So Conan O'Brian has a kings name?
"The Celts is a bit of a misdemeanor."
I think you mean misnomer.
But still this is a somewhat appropriate mistake. ;-p
Write Tuatha
Call it Tua
GENIUS!
*Irish intensifies*
Write 'write', pronounce it 'rait'. GENIUS! /s
The 'th' in 'tuatha' is pronounced as a 'h'. It used to be pronounce like a 'th' in English, but that was 1000 years ago. Also, 'tuatha' is pronounced more like 'tua-ha'. Hilbert mispronounced it.
Irish spelling might look inpenetrable, but its surface complexity is (a) a consequence of being written longer than any other European language other than Greek, (b) having a complex phonology that makes the Latin alphabet ill-suited to it, and (c) balancing ease of spelling with preserving useful etymological information.
That's the reason why a word like 'beochaoineadh' is spelled the way it is: unlike English, Irish has consonant mutation and a contrast between palatalised (slender) and velarised (broad) consonants, and has to jump through hoops to represent those, which the Latin alphabet isn't good at.
In fact, for its age and issues, Irish orthography actually represents the language surprisingly well, and is a significantly better representation of the spoken language than that of English, which only looks easy on the surface, but unlike Irish spelling, which is straightforward once you learn the principles, English spelling is nothing but a rat-king of exceptions.
4 Kingdoms = 4 providences
Tir na nog: land or isles of youth, magic, fairies or the North, depends on the locals.
the suffix ster came from the Normans why would Gaelic speaking irish ppl refer to the provinces in anything but there Irish names... where did you get your sources for this video?
Ar fheabhas Hilbert! One thing that not everybody knows is that the Uí Néill (grandsons of Niall i.e. of the Nine Hostages) are very old and significant so they gave rise to lots of families. Fir example O'Neill, O'Donnell, O'Gallagher, O'Gormley, O'Doherty and probably my namesake 😛 However O'Neill (meaning the exact same thing) is in reference to a later Niall called Niall Glúndub (Niall of the Black Knee). He was of the Uí Néill himself, lived around the time if the Viking attacks and by that time the broader Uí Néill were quite large and widespread. His descendants the O'Neills emphasised their descent from specifically him to forward their claim to the Uí Néill kingdom of Tír Eoghain (or Tyrone). Hope this helps and your Irish is good 😄
Was it the Welsh Kingdom of Dyfed that had an Irish Elite?
I swear Pádraig Leahy has the top comment for every History With Hilbert video.
3:26 The name positions are a little misleading, with Connacht's name spreading to Clare and maybe Limerick,Munster's name into Wexford, Leinster's in parts of Northern Ireland and Ulster's in Leitrim.
Clare used to be part of Connacht or so I learned in School. All the boundaries changed and fluctuated as far as I know.
What about the others??
Especially Munsters..
Can't believe this O Neill is decended of Neill and Connacht is so misprounced
Do you have Dutch heritage by any chance?
he's obviously chinese -.-
You're both wrong you can clearly hear he's from France
He's a first-generation Englishman who's parents are from the Netherlands
pfft we all know he has an Afro-Eurasian heritage
Tír na nÓg is land of the young and You forgot the kingdom of Meath. Also saint Pat escaped from his slavery.
I heard of thr Uí Néill from eu4
As an Anglo-Irish mutt, I approve of this video.
Declan and others preceded Patrick!
3:18
"Now if we skip ahead a few hundred years"
> 400AD
> 300AD
wut lol
I'm a descendent of Brian boru though the O'Phealan family
Norman Hampton Its not even that unlikely
probilly not related but last name is phelan and my family is from Ireland
Assuming a human generation time of 27 years there have been approximately 36 generations since since Brian boru's death. If you trace your ancestry back 36 generations, assuming no inbreeding, in 1014 you will have 2^36 or 68,719,476,736 ancestors. So it's not only possible but probable that you are descended from literally everyone on earth alive in 1014.
Brian himself had three wives and must have had a multitude of concubines and a fair amount of lay women on his raids throughout the country, resulting in what must have been astounding numbers of illegitimate children that are not documented in the Irish annals.
The505Guys it's actually amazing how much people do move about over generations. You have a point about isolated tribes but you'd be surprised, it only takes 1 missionary to introduce that DNA.
No BC High King Angus?
Welcome to the family
My people!
1:32 HIJ DOET HET WEER!!!!!
translation
He does it again
You should do something on Northern Ireland specifically I'd love to see how you do it
there'd be war in the comment section
HOLY SHIT THE IRISH GUY IS BACK
Misdemeanor? Did you mean 'misnomer'?
Jack Mehoff first thing on my mind too. i went looking for secondary definitions of misdemeanor so I didn't feel an ass.
No way that could be a contemporary picture of him considering the armor is at least 400-500 years later than when the dates of his life are.
Why does the map have a border at 300AD?
Sounds like current Irish politics. Come a long way. 👍
Tir na og is actually land of the young not tir na sidhe land of the fairies. Although a better translation is land of eternal youth eternal isn't said its just implied.
Tír na nÓg means the land of (eternal) youth. This is one of the best known facts regarding Irish folklore.
My boyfriend brought me to the Rock of Cashel recently which is where Brien Boru lived before going off to the battle north, and he told me about how he is a direct descendant and his family tree is kept in a little building at the base if the rock. Just watching this now and doesn't he have Brien's nose! 6:00
07:12 in the fod!!! isen't that a bit to low ??
Brian Borus proper name in Irish is Brain Mac Cennétig. Boru part is from his middle name Bóruma. his father was Cennétig mac Lorcáin thus his name brian Son of Cennétig. Kinda obvious but just wanted to point out that Brain Boru wasn't his actual name when he was alive.
Why do you have the partition border in the video when your ment to be showing dark age history ? That border was only created in 1921
What about Meath? Irish Cúig means five!
the ter in leister and munster comes from the old norse, tír like tír eoghan, tyrone, but leinster is laighin in irish, sounds like lion in English theres no tír in it
same with munster its mumha
3:48 tír nin og means land of the young
you have the best pronunciation of a non irishman i have heard yet hahahaha maith thu fein
You didn't butcher the Irish at all, respect
I know im late but i would like to say that ireland was split into five kingdoms the irish word for province means five kingdoms and meath was the middle kingdom but it was so small it got taken over by leinster and turned into more of puppet state
me:
smiles: in crusader king 2
Munster Forza! Alba Eire
Do this for France or italy
Are you Dutch or British? Make up your mind
Is this really Cynicism at its best?
I'm not really that cynical anymore tbqh
Would the name McNeil be similar to O'Neil in this respect. Just wondering.
Estella1507 ,,,,, the Mc is similar to the O but I don't remember the difference off the top of my head, O could mean grandson of and Mac or mc meaning son of, there's also a lot of Scots with the MC and some O's and it seems like the Irish use the O a lot.
You get a like for the surprise Willhelmus! Hup Nederlands!
ORANJE BOVEN!
that's neat, my grand mother was descended from O'Neil's
Yes, you did butcher the names haha. But great video!
I'm guessing this guy is from the Netherlands?
This is the most fairytale like setting in real life I can think of
Um our politics never left the dark ages...
The Irish game of thrones
oh shit.. the celts are a crime.. (sry, i had to, i love ur vids!!)
1:27
Is “Dark age” not a bit of a misnomer ?
Conas atá tú, blueucloud is ainm Dom. Is maith liom an físeán seo.
Náisiúnaí na hÉireann oops,but thank you
i prefer the orange white blue flag for netherlands the other one reminds me of yugoslávia
No. Munster, Ulster and Leinster get their 'ster' from the Norman word for a place. Just like in Britain you have West Minster. Lots o places i England have 'ster' on the end of their names. In Irish they are called Uladh, Múin, Lein and Connacht. The Normans simply added 'ster' to the end of these names to call them Uladh-place, Lein-Place and so on. Similar to what The Saxon did with Ireland - Éire-land. Germanic languages love sticking 'land' on the end of everything.
Little fun fact, the Tir na nog (excuse my lack of fadas as I’ve forgotten where they go) was also known as the land of the “gods” or the Tuatha de danann too, I believe.
Tír na nÓg is Irish for Land of the Young. It was a mythological land believed to exist to the west of Ireland across the sea. It was believed that if you made it there, you would cease to age and live forever.
O neill is still a pretty big family
Plenty of errors in this vid, namely Brian was in no way the First High King of Ireland to rule the whole island plenty had done so prior to him, Ireland had 5 provinces not 4 back in the day, mide or Meath was the fifth. I do like how you pointed out the term Celtic is an overused modern junk word, no one in Ireland up until mid 19th century would have recognised the term Celtic it never existed here and you are correct in saying it was in reality a mainly linguistic and semi-cultural loose connection kinda similar to how calling all the various vastly different tribes that used to inhabit the Americas as Indians! as a general term that's all Celtic ever was, coined by the Greeks probably as a derogatory term.