I always felt that Chris and Lorelai needed this failed marriage, otherwise they would never have been able to get over their childhood romance. The marriage and subsequent divorce really closed that book.
I've always felt this. It helped her see that she made the right decision all those years ago when she refused to marry him and live the life their parents expected of them.
I LOVE that look of shock on Loralie's when Emily proudly pats her on the shoulder, assuring her she is going to be just fine. Loralie is shocked because she has wanted this approval ALL HER LIFE, but tragically it took her father having a heart attack and Loralie having to show Emily how to manage Richard's affairs.
@@luishanejones7016well she was drunk so her guard/inhibitions were down so she was more likely to say what she actually thought rather than put on a facade.
@luishanejones7016 not entirely. She merely brought up that she didn't get her full deposit money back. Had lorelai spoken up sooner she might not have even paid it. Right after she said it she did thank lorelai for her help the previous night
@@swidler15this! Lore and her parents relationship would have been so better if they had just let go of the whole pregnant thing cause it’s was yearssss ago and in the past plus is can’t be changed and if they cared for what she wanted
No because season 7 is easily nearly everyone's least favorite season (including mine), but there are some moments here and there that are decent enough to get through. This is one of those scenes, in my personal opinion, because this was one of those rare moments where Lorelai and Emily are getting along. I loved Emily's support here, and Lorelai really needed to hear this from her. I'm just glad that the show ended on a high note because I didn't want season 6 to be the last season with the way it ended because it was obvious that it couldn't be the end. Despite the fact that this final 7th season didn't have Amy Sherman-Palladino as a showrunner, I'm glad it happened because they were able to wrap up a few things. (I still pretend the revival doesn't exist, by the way! I consider AYITL a reunion special event in honor of Edward Herrmann because his tribute was lovely ❤)
@@citydweller99 Same here. Seasons 6 and 7 were the two worst seasons by far, but 7 is a little bit better for me, and I think it was because of scenes like this. The dialogue quality dipped without ASP at the helm, but you could tell she was upset around the time of season 6 and the ill will she had (justified or not) was sort of reflected in the storylines. In season 7, you can see that the writers were doing their best to keep to the spirit of the series... The dialogue wasn't as great, but the emotional bits still hit because there were still people in the writing room who _cared_ about the characters and wanted the show to end on a good note.
@@EmphaticNod Oh I like this take so thank you for saying this!! Looking back, I find myself enjoying season 7 more than season 6 because season 6 with the rift between Lorelai and Rory as well as the whole April stuff ruined some of the core relationships of the show! I’m glad we have season 7 because we got the ending we deserved with the characters we have grown attached to. I love the finale :)
@@citydweller99 absolutely! It was much easier to get through compared to season 6 (my favorite part about season 6 was seeing the new and improved Jess btw! I’m Team Jess simply because of how they changed him for the better ❤️)
I imagine it's a result of her own upbringing. She doesn't know how to be close with her daughter. You can see she yearns for it, and it's not that Lorelai doesn't want it either.
THIS!!! That breakfast after where Lorelai comes down and wants to sit and talk with Emily while they eat and Emily is so cold is the worst. It was just cruel.
@@Glitch1082-g8f She loves in her own way. My grandmother is somewhat similar. She was raised in an abusive home after being given up for adoption at the age of 4 (in her bio family she was the 7th out of at least 17 children). So she has always been reserved because that was how she survived so much of the trauma she went through. Problem is she took that and used it to always make herself the victim and is a narcissist. Basically, she is incapable of letting anyone get really close to her except to feed off of them. But, at the end of the day, she does love all of us. She's shown it in her own ways, most of them not being very good. While I have chosen not to have her in my life after trying to mend ties by inviting her to my wedding and she turned it down because it was on sabbath. But I still love her and I know she loves all of us. I see a lot of that in Emily. She loves her family. But she was conditioned very differently. She doesn't know how to show her love for her family all the time. I'm not defending Emily by any means. But, having grown up around someone similar, I understand and feel bad for her. People like her are often very sad, deep down. And feel alone all the time.
I didn't know this scene existed because I really hated how season 6 was going and hated the first episode of season 7 that I didn't bother watching the rest of season 7. That being said, this is a really good scene and I wish we got this Emily and Lorelai connection earlier.
I actually prefer Season 7 to Season 6. You could tell it wasn't the original writers and so the dialogue suffered in terms of jokes and wit, but for me the *story* at least made sense and was intact, and the writers got themselves out of the awful corner ASP backed them into in S6 in a way that felt true to the characters without rushing (save Lane; I'll never forgive them for getting Lane pregnant right away).
Im sick and tired of everyone's harshness toward Emily. I know the Emily's of this world and let me tell you that they are a lioness. They will fight for their children to have the best life with every ounce of life force that they have and its all out of love. From the time a baby comes into this world a mother plans and teaches and has hopes for that child's life....and some parents like Emily just dont want to see their child as an adult. Think about it. Lorelei shut her parents out of her and Rory's life for over a decade so Lorelei and Rory grew up while the distance prevented Emily from seeing them grow up and sharing in it so Emily kept holding onto wanting to mother Lorelei and its not bad....its certainly uncomfortable for Rory and Lorelei...but still wanting to mother Lorelei is actually a sign of both deep hurt and deep love. This scene is one of the first times Emily comforts Lorelei as an adult daughter not as a mother-child. Its very touching because its a HUGE shift for Emily and it bodes well that as Emily and Lorelei continue to age that the gap / distance is going to grow smaller. Sometimes it takes trauma to step our of our routine. I think its the Hindus or the Buddhists who believe life is a dream and that we spend most of our day mindlessly in a routine. It takes a trauma to break the routine and then when the routine is broken we wake up and we see....we have been acting as if everything is the same because routine makes us comfortable...we wake up and see all the things that have changed and we start to deal with all the new things we see....
Lorelai cutting her parents out of her life was literally cause Emily and Richard were forcing her into a life she did not want for herself. And when Lorelai finally came back with Rory in tow, Emily showed repeatedly that she would rather hold resentment against Lorelai for leaving decades ago rather than carefully rebuild the relationship and time that they’d lost in-between. Prior to this season, she repeatedly demeaned Lorelai’s work, character and meddled in her adult daughter’s relationships as if she were mocking her choices and her life; even going so far as to take over the reins of Rory’s upbringing not because she saw herself as Rory’s grandmother but because she saw Rory as some sort of replacement for young Lorelai - a way to “right the wrongs”. This is not to say Emily is a terrible person in general but she failed to see her own daughter as a being with different ambitions and dreams - for a very long time, all she wanted was for Lorelai to follow in her footsteps into high society, which Lorelai showed many times she did not want.
The characters during seventh season were all messed up in the sense that they weren’t really themselves anymore, more like a caricature.. you can tell the original creators had dropped the ball
They were messed up because Amy Sherman-Palladino left them all in a messed up place before she left the show following season 6; maybe even intentionally sabotaging it, one could speculate... You can tell the season 7 writers were running themselves ragged trying to resolve all the annoying conflicts she threw in, and I imagine it was very hard. Honestly, I think they did the best they could with the scraps they were given. Season 7 feels different, but at least it has a decent ending that doesn't feel too manic and rushed.
@@mariastella Who is Christian? His name is Christopher. And Emily didn't know any such thing. She always thought they should be together. That was both families plan for them as teenagers.
LOL sometimes its cute and funny to me that Rory's face does'nt really match the urgency of what she says, But that's part of her appeal. She kind of has a Macaulay Culkin vibe like she could be his sister.
Emily released Chris is not the one for Loraine because at hospital when her father had a heart attack Luke was again the first time Luke drive Loraine to hospital and the 2nd time Luke when to show respect and and Emily had him to do things and he come again with food for the family Emily released Luke is the one
It’s kind of revealing. Emily worries. She worries about a list of things she was raised to do to “work within the system”. Lorelei always terrified her cuz she would always buck away from it. That worry always clouded her from SEEING her daughter. A few drinks to quiet the worry and she’s sees her daughter and respects her. And when she has all that respect and admiration the worry just falls away.
Season 7 gets crapped on so much but this is actually a really nuanced conversation about marriage vs singlehood. Emily and Richard are so co-dependent on each other, one struggles to exist without the other (hence the canoe reference). Whereas Lorelai and Christopher don’t work in tandem at all.
Unpopular opinion: I think seasons 6 and 7 were the best. Great writing of more realistic and relatable characters except for the whole Luke and April thing.
Mothers were expected to be their child's teacher as well as their parent. They had to teach their child how to read and spell, to do basic math, encourage hobbies like music or painting, and teach them philosophy. Being a housewife and a mother was by no means an easy task, not even today. It was more than just cooking, cleaning and having kids. The father may have been the head of the household, but mothers were the emotional backbone of the family.
I always felt that Chris and Lorelai needed this failed marriage, otherwise they would never have been able to get over their childhood romance. The marriage and subsequent divorce really closed that book.
100%
I've always felt this. It helped her see that she made the right decision all those years ago when she refused to marry him and live the life their parents expected of them.
I totally agree. I just wish that it had take place before in the series
Yes
The irony she ran away bc she didnt want to marry him as a teen and end up marrying anyways.
I LOVE that look of shock on Loralie's when Emily proudly pats her on the shoulder, assuring her she is going to be just fine. Loralie is shocked because she has wanted this approval ALL HER LIFE, but tragically it took her father having a heart attack and Loralie having to show Emily how to manage Richard's affairs.
Everything with Emily is a double-edged sword. Including backhanded compliments. Even unintentional ones. Especially unintentional ones.
I love to role reversal lor upset about the divorce but ‘em is like hip hip
The nicest conversation they’ve ever had
figures Emily had to be drunk to say these things
weird it was written in a season without the show’s creator
I do love this scene because Emily finally admits that lorelai did ok for herself
She has always known that. They just have different lives.
Just wish Emily didn’t go back cold the next morning😢
You'd have to be very entitled and privileged to think that Lorelai didn't do ok for herself. Emily is just a greedy white woman.
@@luishanejones7016well she was drunk so her guard/inhibitions were down so she was more likely to say what she actually thought rather than put on a facade.
@luishanejones7016 not entirely. She merely brought up that she didn't get her full deposit money back. Had lorelai spoken up sooner she might not have even paid it. Right after she said it she did thank lorelai for her help the previous night
2:00 "I had no idea we owned windmills"
I know that's not the point of this deep bonding scene, but Kelly Bishop's delivery is so on point. 😅😅😅
Imagine how well and relieving it feels for Lorelai to get her mother’s approval
Only for it to disappear the next morning, it was truly so upsetting, and I was so angry at Emily for taking it all away.
@@swidler15this! Lore and her parents relationship would have been so better if they had just let go of the whole pregnant thing cause it’s was yearssss ago and in the past plus is can’t be changed and if they cared for what she wanted
The actress playing Emily had verve and spirit, she was the best in the series.
Kelly Bishop. Amazing broadway actress who won a Tony for originating the character of Sheila in A Chorus Line.
She's written a book and I think is on tour❤
I love this conversation between Emily and Lorelai, Emily proud of the woman Lorelai became
No because season 7 is easily nearly everyone's least favorite season (including mine), but there are some moments here and there that are decent enough to get through. This is one of those scenes, in my personal opinion, because this was one of those rare moments where Lorelai and Emily are getting along. I loved Emily's support here, and Lorelai really needed to hear this from her. I'm just glad that the show ended on a high note because I didn't want season 6 to be the last season with the way it ended because it was obvious that it couldn't be the end. Despite the fact that this final 7th season didn't have Amy Sherman-Palladino as a showrunner, I'm glad it happened because they were able to wrap up a few things. (I still pretend the revival doesn't exist, by the way! I consider AYITL a reunion special event in honor of Edward Herrmann because his tribute was lovely ❤)
Season 7 was actually an improvement to me.. and finding out that the show runners were different explained why.
@@citydweller99 Same here. Seasons 6 and 7 were the two worst seasons by far, but 7 is a little bit better for me, and I think it was because of scenes like this. The dialogue quality dipped without ASP at the helm, but you could tell she was upset around the time of season 6 and the ill will she had (justified or not) was sort of reflected in the storylines. In season 7, you can see that the writers were doing their best to keep to the spirit of the series... The dialogue wasn't as great, but the emotional bits still hit because there were still people in the writing room who _cared_ about the characters and wanted the show to end on a good note.
@@EmphaticNodI totally agree with you! 💯
@@EmphaticNod Oh I like this take so thank you for saying this!! Looking back, I find myself enjoying season 7 more than season 6 because season 6 with the rift between Lorelai and Rory as well as the whole April stuff ruined some of the core relationships of the show! I’m glad we have season 7 because we got the ending we deserved with the characters we have grown attached to. I love the finale :)
@@citydweller99 absolutely! It was much easier to get through compared to season 6 (my favorite part about season 6 was seeing the new and improved Jess btw! I’m Team Jess simply because of how they changed him for the better ❤️)
Then Emily HAD to ruin their potential bond by being cold and distant the next morning. Such a shame, I felt bad for Lorelai.
The whole issue with their relationship. Emily gets vulnerable with her daughter, then gets embarrassed and turns off the emotional tap.
I imagine it's a result of her own upbringing. She doesn't know how to be close with her daughter. You can see she yearns for it, and it's not that Lorelai doesn't want it either.
THIS!!! That breakfast after where Lorelai comes down and wants to sit and talk with Emily while they eat and Emily is so cold is the worst. It was just cruel.
@@Glitch1082-g8f She loves in her own way. My grandmother is somewhat similar. She was raised in an abusive home after being given up for adoption at the age of 4 (in her bio family she was the 7th out of at least 17 children). So she has always been reserved because that was how she survived so much of the trauma she went through. Problem is she took that and used it to always make herself the victim and is a narcissist. Basically, she is incapable of letting anyone get really close to her except to feed off of them. But, at the end of the day, she does love all of us. She's shown it in her own ways, most of them not being very good. While I have chosen not to have her in my life after trying to mend ties by inviting her to my wedding and she turned it down because it was on sabbath. But I still love her and I know she loves all of us. I see a lot of that in Emily. She loves her family. But she was conditioned very differently. She doesn't know how to show her love for her family all the time. I'm not defending Emily by any means. But, having grown up around someone similar, I understand and feel bad for her. People like her are often very sad, deep down. And feel alone all the time.
Did Emily grab a bowl of nuts from behind the books in the shelf?! What just happened?! 😂 2:56
She did and I’m distracted trying to figure out what the story of them being there is lol
Ty I was wondering if anyone noticed that haha
Lolol she knows her husband REALLY WELL
“I am kayak hear me roar”😂😂😂😂. This is probably the best and closest they’ve ever spoke
I think Richard hid those nuts as a snack cuz Emily is restricting his diet so much lol
This scene is so sweet 💕💕💕
Molotov mocktail is the best thing I’ve heard all day
I didn't know this scene existed because I really hated how season 6 was going and hated the first episode of season 7 that I didn't bother watching the rest of season 7. That being said, this is a really good scene and I wish we got this Emily and Lorelai connection earlier.
Lmao same!
2:38
In retrospect none of us saw this coming at the time,this would foreshadow Richard's death and Emily's spiral into chaos.
This is like the best scene in TV history. Absolutelly love it!
Why are there nuts behind books in the bookshelf? XD (2:55)
I assume she hid snacks as Richard couldn't have them.
Emily is such a WASP...lol
She is my favorite character, mostly because she reminds me of a family member of mine who is also my favorite. lol
This is one of the standout moments from season 7.
I actually prefer Season 7 to Season 6. You could tell it wasn't the original writers and so the dialogue suffered in terms of jokes and wit, but for me the *story* at least made sense and was intact, and the writers got themselves out of the awful corner ASP backed them into in S6 in a way that felt true to the characters without rushing (save Lane; I'll never forgive them for getting Lane pregnant right away).
How would you have preferred they dealt with Keiko's baby bump?
@@darkglasses87 Ignore it.
My fave moment of this season ❤
I am kayak, hear me roar. HUGE lol on that one.
Im sick and tired of everyone's harshness toward Emily. I know the Emily's of this world and let me tell you that they are a lioness. They will fight for their children to have the best life with every ounce of life force that they have and its all out of love. From the time a baby comes into this world a mother plans and teaches and has hopes for that child's life....and some parents like Emily just dont want to see their child as an adult. Think about it. Lorelei shut her parents out of her and Rory's life for over a decade so Lorelei and Rory grew up while the distance prevented Emily from seeing them grow up and sharing in it so Emily kept holding onto wanting to mother Lorelei and its not bad....its certainly uncomfortable for Rory and Lorelei...but still wanting to mother Lorelei is actually a sign of both deep hurt and deep love. This scene is one of the first times Emily comforts Lorelei as an adult daughter not as a mother-child. Its very touching because its a HUGE shift for Emily and it bodes well that as Emily and Lorelei continue to age that the gap / distance is going to grow smaller. Sometimes it takes trauma to step our of our routine. I think its the Hindus or the Buddhists who believe life is a dream and that we spend most of our day mindlessly in a routine. It takes a trauma to break the routine and then when the routine is broken we wake up and we see....we have been acting as if everything is the same because routine makes us comfortable...we wake up and see all the things that have changed and we start to deal with all the new things we see....
wow you are really clueless about Buddhist and Vedic philosophy.
Lorelai cutting her parents out of her life was literally cause Emily and Richard were forcing her into a life she did not want for herself. And when Lorelai finally came back with Rory in tow, Emily showed repeatedly that she would rather hold resentment against Lorelai for leaving decades ago rather than carefully rebuild the relationship and time that they’d lost in-between. Prior to this season, she repeatedly demeaned Lorelai’s work, character and meddled in her adult daughter’s relationships as if she were mocking her choices and her life; even going so far as to take over the reins of Rory’s upbringing not because she saw herself as Rory’s grandmother but because she saw Rory as some sort of replacement for young Lorelai - a way to “right the wrongs”.
This is not to say Emily is a terrible person in general but she failed to see her own daughter as a being with different ambitions and dreams - for a very long time, all she wanted was for Lorelai to follow in her footsteps into high society, which Lorelai showed many times she did not want.
This scene is honestly incomplete without the following morning where Emily does a 180 on Lorelei.
I think that there was the Emily Gilmore version of a compliment and comfort in there somewhere
The "thanks mom" is so underrated. Lorelei inner child that just wants her mummy came out for a moment.
Yeah! It's so cozy and cute! :)
The characters during seventh season were all messed up in the sense that they weren’t really themselves anymore, more like a caricature.. you can tell the original creators had dropped the ball
lol that’s the because the original writers didn’t serve as writers and/or show runners for this final season.
The original creators weren’t there. So if you mean dropped the ball by not being there… we’ll sure.
@@markreid6318 And they needed to leave... season 6 wasn't any better if I recall
They were messed up because Amy Sherman-Palladino left them all in a messed up place before she left the show following season 6; maybe even intentionally sabotaging it, one could speculate... You can tell the season 7 writers were running themselves ragged trying to resolve all the annoying conflicts she threw in, and I imagine it was very hard. Honestly, I think they did the best they could with the scraps they were given. Season 7 feels different, but at least it has a decent ending that doesn't feel too manic and rushed.
@@EmphaticNodyou sound like you are personally involved in this situation
We cracked the code on Emily Gilmore boyz: it's BOOZE.
Was Emily drunk here? The Emily we all know wouldn't act this way, with such a dawning comprehension... LOL
Lol. Yes, Emily was tipsy..they were drinking Richards scotch, neat, no soda no chasers. 🥃
@@mariastella Who is Christian? His name is Christopher. And Emily didn't know any such thing. She always thought they should be together. That was both families plan for them as teenagers.
@@patpeters6331 So sorry
Save the Cornish game hens!
LOL sometimes its cute and funny to me that Rory's face does'nt really match the urgency of what she says, But that's part of her appeal. She kind of has a Macaulay Culkin vibe like she could be his sister.
Emily released Chris is not the one for Loraine because at hospital when her father had a heart attack Luke was again the first time Luke drive Loraine to hospital and the 2nd time Luke when to show respect and and Emily had him to do things and he come again with food for the family Emily released Luke is the one
I am Kayak. Hear me roar.
It’s kind of revealing. Emily worries. She worries about a list of things she was raised to do to “work within the system”. Lorelei always terrified her cuz she would always buck away from it. That worry always clouded her from SEEING her daughter. A few drinks to quiet the worry and she’s sees her daughter and respects her. And when she has all that respect and admiration the worry just falls away.
Kinda like drunk Emily
How have I watched GG 28349582035 times but I don't remember this scene at all??? 😂
Same!!!!!
Season 7 gets crapped on so much but this is actually a really nuanced conversation about marriage vs singlehood. Emily and Richard are so co-dependent on each other, one struggles to exist without the other (hence the canoe reference). Whereas Lorelai and Christopher don’t work in tandem at all.
I'm confused, I watched Gilmore Girls so many times - Lorelai was married? Damn am I having a stroke?
Yeah, she and Christopher got married a couple of months before. 😉
For like five minutes.
A lot of foreshadowing in this clip.
Unpopular opinion: I think seasons 6 and 7 were the best. Great writing of more realistic and relatable characters except for the whole Luke and April thing.
I dunno. I don’t mind Lorelei but let’s not pretend her life has been happier or better than Emily’s life. Being all by yourself ain’t all that great.
In Lorelai’s case, it would be better to be alone than with Christopher.
oh really?
i don't understand why would lorelai and christopher get divorce?
Chris thinks that Lorelei still has feelings for Luke and that maybe they got married too soon after they (Lorelei and Luke) broke up
Rory became the most insufferable character 😣
Ugh Emily what is the point of going to college if all you want to be is a wife, I don't get it.
To find a suitable man in college. What are you not getting? You don't have to go to college to understand that
Mothers were expected to be their child's teacher as well as their parent. They had to teach their child how to read and spell, to do basic math, encourage hobbies like music or painting, and teach them philosophy.
Being a housewife and a mother was by no means an easy task, not even today. It was more than just cooking, cleaning and having kids. The father may have been the head of the household, but mothers were the emotional backbone of the family.
If you want to find an educated man who can make the cheddar, you find him in college, not at the local bar.
its called an M.R.S degree I am told...
@@DiamondBodyHealing LMAO
Emily must be drunk
Worst season ever. Turned Lorelei into crazy woman. Broke Luke. Ran back to worst man ever Chris....