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@@jrob0021 yes you do have to game share trials and demos I believe you don't but for any other game in order to play it on the a different account you need to have the account sign in or gameshare it
i figured they probably were using it for the X years between last halo 3 session and last log in of the gamer tag to stream netflix & hulu, xbox 360 was the og way to do that before fire sticks and apple tv and chromecast
I worked at Goodwill and our policy for reviewing old media was spotty at best. Though, I had never seen a Game Gear that didn't suffer from horrific corrosion in the battery slots.
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 My goodwill never has goodies, i dont know how people always find jackpots in there sometimes, like old phones/old recordings of tv/etc
The second wii u in the video was a rare Wii U containing the first ever firmware. There's little to no consoles left with this firmware. and he updated it 😭
If i remember the icons correctly, all of those XBLA games are just trials. You can see when you load up TMNT, theres an option to "Unlock full game", so i dont believe any of those games are the full ones. Also, if im remembering game sharing with my dad as a kid years ago, the profile that purchased the game owns the license, so that profile HAS to be on the console for other profiles to be able to play it.
Man those 360 cases seemed to crack games regularly, many times when I was a teen we had to check when getting it pre-owned to make sure the disk was okay lol.
Absolutely, however if you see cracks like that it generally means the game was played the hell out of as well, being taken out and put back in the case all the time. My modern warfare 2 and my halo reach both have those cracks and those were the two games I played the most I'd say
Someone else mentioned that the Wii U with the broken wifi is running a really old firmware version, that might be the cause of the WiFi issues, you could either leave it or try updating it with a Wii LAN adapter, depending on what option you find to be more profitable.
When you see those kinds of cracks like that on an Xbox 360 disc in those spots, it usually means one thing: somebody spent a period of their time no lifing that game, it got taken out of and put back in its case a million times lol. That halo 3 disc has probably seen a crap ton of playtime. Kinda sad to think someone might be missing it 😢 awesome vid as always
If you look at the icons for the games, they show half a controller at the bottom. That means they are demos not full games. I still use my 360 regularly.
The WiiU Wi-Fi will often flake out like your second one. Removing the coin cell battery and power cycling the system will often fix it. The coin cell keeps the system from power cycling properly.
If i remmeber correctly that version of the tmnt arcade game is no longer available and plays more stable than the collectors edition, so thats a rather rare commodity
Its my literal dream to have a 360 slim. Good luck with all 4 million of them! 😂🤣 I love doing console repairs and cleanings. I just fixed an nes. And I’ve wanted a 360 to work on for a while.
At launch, I went through like 7 Wii U consoles because of internet issues. The internet issue would actually cause a firmware problem and hard lock the system, making the noise of nails on a chalkboard
demos still work no matter what. which, those games were, you can also play full games from someone else's account as long as it isn't connected to the internet again, if you reconnect the console to the internet without the persons profile/license transfer still on the Xbox it will stop you from playing the games. (I can confirm this as I have 7 Xbox 360's with all of my games downloaded and working without my profile, I've never reconnected them to the internet so they all still have my games.) For console at 2:30
Be careful spinning up discs with a crack in it. I've seen these shatter within the disc drive when it speeds up to 1000's of RPMs and.... what a mess!
I'm still using my copy of mw2 that has a crack like that lmao. I'd have to take it out and put it in my 360 like 8 times to get it to work lol same with my xbox one, since I've gotten my series x it works a lot better for some reason
Xbox 360 games contain two licenses. The console that their gamertag is "registered to" (which I remember being able to change 3 times per year), and any console that is actively playing as their gamertag.
I don't like using alcohol when cleaning the lens on the laser being that it can sometimes strip the anti-glare coating on the lens, damaging it sometimes beyond repair. You are better off with a good glass cleaner like Windex.
I’ve seen a few ds consoles that I donated that have been featured in RUclips tech restoration videos I always mark my username on the back or sides of my consoles so I know
Skate 3 is one of the best skating games Imo...... had no idea the Resident Evil console existed...... now I just want one The other rare-ish console I want is 500 Million PS4 Pro and the Halo Edition Xbox Series X (preferably unopenef)
My 14 year old niece is still playing her 360. She's a huge fan of GTA so she's been playing 4 alot. She loves Halo and the little sh*t is good at 1v1. I was ashamed of myself 😂
Wii Us are fun. I once got one as "broken" with Lego Batman in the disk slot. Sadly the Wii U doesn't read Nintendo DS games, so that cartridge didn't work there. Once I removed it from the drive the Wii U worked fine. And I got a free copy of Lego Batman DS.
nice video, just before i want to tell you that there are two versions of the xbox 360 jasper motherboard: the V1 (2008 to 2009) and the V2 (2009 to the end of the fat xbox 360)
Its been my experience Goodwill does the best job I've ever seen of packing their items. Ive had ebayers place an item in a box with little or no packing. A few paid the price though as the item arrived demolished and they had to issue a total refund. Yeah I sometimes got to keep the items but they were worthless!!
It really depends on region, but in general they really... *really* don't want to pay refunds, even if they can foot the bill to whoever they have shipping it for mishandling.
Stats Broken disc drives on 360: 3 Merto Dashes: 5 PS3 with 128 GB Slim: Wiis Played over 10 years ago: 1 360s with COD: 2 PS3 Super Lims with 500 GB storage: 2 Wiis With Broken Drives: 3 Wiis with Wii Sports: 1 Wiis with SD cards: 1 Wiis With Other Games: 1 Wiis with Tons of Games and Saves: 1 Xboxes With Tons of Profiles: 2 Xboxes With Other Games in Disc Drives: 2 Xbox 360 Played more then 5 years ago: 1 Factory Reset Wii: 1 Xbox 360 with Tons of Games: 1
Any channel that shows that blue grid icon thing isnt actually downloaded, it just exists on the menu, when you start them it just tells you about the channel and has a button that takes you to the shop
5:48 This Wii U's homescreen is kind of strange, almost like it's severely out of date in terms of software updates. There's no friend list, miiverse, etc at the bottom. I'm curious what software version it's on
My PS3 super slim has a broken sliding top mechanism and I just did a MacGyver and made it work. It looks like the Desert PS3 from DKOldies inside lol but I’m not opening it until I buy a new outer case. Also my Xbox 360 S needs a new motherboard as mine is parental controls enabled from the previous owner and they don’t know the code. Nice consoles tho
I love this series and can't wait for new episodes. Just a small correction: At ~ 16:35 you mention that you can't play PS1 games on all PS3s. Thats wrong though, I think you meant Playstation 2 games, which is also not 100 % correct. Afaik, all PS3s got software emulation to play PS1 titles. The first revisions also got hardware emulation for PS2 games, which was later switched to a hardware software combination before being dropped completely - just like they ditched the possibility to install linux on later revisions. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, this is all just from memory.
I had that issue with a few Wii U consoles. Weirdly enough I put the Wii U to its side pointing the bottom side to the router. It took a few tries but it connected. I’m not sure if the first gen Wii U had weak Wi-Fi receivers. Anyways just wanted to say my 2 cents :P
I got a wii recently and it included some awesome gc games and a memory card.... it had some amazing save files of great games some of which were included. It was a storage locker find from a couple I know and it was a good one. Still has the flaps and is in good shape. No sd card iirc just the gc memory card
Guarantee those games are left in the consoles of the kids that left for college, or left the house for whatever reason and left their console at home. Mom and dad eventually just give it away, not even opening it to look. I am more surprised that Goodwill doesn't check for these games!
The fact that there was no game disc in the Wii or Wii U but there was in the Xbox360 and PS3 just proves that Nintendo players are smarter. We know to remove discs before selling the console. 😁
Lol nah I think goodwill is just actually good at shipping. Most things I buy from them almost have too much bubble wrap 😂 of course better than not enough though
@@jrob0021it depends on which goodwill it is shipped from. I have had an order in the past for a pokemon gold/silver game guide in pretty decent condition from the images that they literally rolled up tight and wedged in a box so it arrived all sorts of messed up lol
See you are at it again with them consoles, would like to know how to get my hands on a wii u, and even better how to get my hands on 100+ consoles lol
Unlike scalpers on youtube streaming their 2 paperclips and a stick of gum trades, you are doing the used game market a favor by buying these and repairing them so they can stay functional then selling for reasonable prices.
Where do you get things like replacement drives for Wiis? Are parts still being manufactured or are they pieces of other people's that have been broken into parts? Or is the drive not as specific?
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What do you think about this mystery box from goodwill? Did it make up for their misleading listing?
You have to gameshare to keep the games
Hey Jacob please make a ps2 video with a wrestling video that is called smack here comes the pain please
@@chriswright8074not true on the 360
@@jrob0021 yes you do have to game share trials and demos I believe you don't but for any other game in order to play it on the a different account you need to have the account sign in or gameshare it
@@jrob0021what does your store and xbox have in common? You both have no games.
What may have happened is that they got rid of the 360 after they thought the drive was dead when it was really just a busted disc
Thought the same thing. Crazy how much hardware gets tossed/donated when it's a simple fix or not a hardware problem to begin with.
i figured they probably were using it for the X years between last halo 3 session and last log in of the gamer tag to stream netflix & hulu, xbox 360 was the og way to do that before fire sticks and apple tv and chromecast
@@kddo1455also wii and PS3 were used for that, I'd use netflix and youtube on my PS3 back then
I worked at Goodwill and our policy for reviewing old media was spotty at best.
Though, I had never seen a Game Gear that didn't suffer from horrific corrosion in the battery slots.
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 My goodwill never has goodies, i dont know how people always find jackpots in there sometimes, like old phones/old recordings of tv/etc
The second wii u in the video was a rare Wii U containing the first ever firmware. There's little to no consoles left with this firmware. and he updated it 😭
Lol
I mean is there any use in having the og firmware? That was the slowest console ever lol
@@jrob0021Its a collectable in a way.
@@jrob0021 it's more from an archival standpoint. I am part of the WIi U modding scene and i have only ever seen one person with one of these consoles
@@rmck01_ I just did homebrew on a 5.5.6 wii u and it works fine.
Great series ! Always interesting to see how functional each console is when you turn it on first and then any repairs you need to do if necessary
The best feeling is turning on a console, getting a free game, seeing an old profile, and having a working console 🙂
I do love these nostalgia trips.@@jrob0021 Like gamerhalloffamer1022338877
@@jrob0021agreed also seeing downloaded digital games makes the console even more worth it, you get your moneys worth and gameplay
I like how Jacob brings these old consoles back to life!
I purchased a console from the previous batch, i can attest to the quality of the refurbishment. These will go quickly!
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@@jrob0021 Will you restock the wii u? If so what about with the gamepad?
My favorite part of this series is hearing the silky smooth "The Texas Load" at the beggining of every episode.
Same
Good that most of these systems work so far
Work, but very dirty 😂
Also these Wii disc drive issues are somethin else man lol
@@jrob0021 yeah that is the big issue but more then i thought worked
If i remember the icons correctly, all of those XBLA games are just trials. You can see when you load up TMNT, theres an option to "Unlock full game", so i dont believe any of those games are the full ones. Also, if im remembering game sharing with my dad as a kid years ago, the profile that purchased the game owns the license, so that profile HAS to be on the console for other profiles to be able to play it.
My theory is they tried the Halo 3 and it didn't work so they gave the Xbox to goodwill thinking it was broken 😞
I know the PS3 Ss was a cost cutting final edition to the ps3. But having an automated sliding door would have been so dope.
Man those 360 cases seemed to crack games regularly, many times when I was a teen we had to check when getting it pre-owned to make sure the disk was okay lol.
The steelbooks were infamous for causing radial cracks. Had it happen to Halo Wars.
I had a copy of arkham asylum break like that
Absolutely, however if you see cracks like that it generally means the game was played the hell out of as well, being taken out and put back in the case all the time. My modern warfare 2 and my halo reach both have those cracks and those were the two games I played the most I'd say
Someone else mentioned that the Wii U with the broken wifi is running a really old firmware version, that might be the cause of the WiFi issues, you could either leave it or try updating it with a Wii LAN adapter, depending on what option you find to be more profitable.
that “someone else” was me i think ;)
but that’s a pretty good point, yeah
didn’t he say the console updated from Lego City Undercover?
(some games include system updates when necessary)
When you see those kinds of cracks like that on an Xbox 360 disc in those spots, it usually means one thing: somebody spent a period of their time no lifing that game, it got taken out of and put back in its case a million times lol. That halo 3 disc has probably seen a crap ton of playtime. Kinda sad to think someone might be missing it 😢 awesome vid as always
If you look at the icons for the games, they show half a controller at the bottom. That means they are demos not full games. I still use my 360 regularly.
Glad to see an independent shop selling old consoles for a reasonable price.
I love that you're using automotive white lithium grease. I buy that all the time at walmart for hinges on vehicles
The WiiU Wi-Fi will often flake out like your second one. Removing the coin cell battery and power cycling the system will often fix it. The coin cell keeps the system from power cycling properly.
You should change the Goodwill message in the thumbnail to "Sorry, wii forgot u."
If i remmeber correctly that version of the tmnt arcade game is no longer available and plays more stable than the collectors edition, so thats a rather rare commodity
Interesting 🤨
3:20 That equals 3 segway though.
would've been even better if it didn't get messed up in the render... 😔
@@DannyTheEditor still epic 👍🏽
Congrats on the refurb my friend. Honest work I gotta say. Clean and replace the thermal paste. Hope these sell well. Keep these coming 👍
seems like a pretty chill gig you got going on here. made me want to smoke a spliff.
Your Xbox 360 is giving me so much nostalgia keep it up
Its my literal dream to have a 360 slim. Good luck with all 4 million of them! 😂🤣 I love doing console repairs and cleanings. I just fixed an nes. And I’ve wanted a 360 to work on for a while.
At launch, I went through like 7 Wii U consoles because of internet issues. The internet issue would actually cause a firmware problem and hard lock the system, making the noise of nails on a chalkboard
Fun fact is most of us Texans don’t talk like the intro 😂 and to add to that we don’t all ride horses 😆 like many assume 😄
That equals 3 transition brought me back to 2010 fast 😢
Reppin' APP STATE at the end!! Go Mountaineers! Digging the channel, keep it up!
demos still work no matter what. which, those games were, you can also play full games from someone else's account as long as it isn't connected to the internet again, if you reconnect the console to the internet without the persons profile/license transfer still on the Xbox it will stop you from playing the games. (I can confirm this as I have 7 Xbox 360's with all of my games downloaded and working without my profile, I've never reconnected them to the internet so they all still have my games.) For console at 2:30
i love this series , Its like opening a time machine makes you wonder where they are gaming now.
I always have problems with connecting Nintendo consoles to the internet. Changing manually the DNS always worked for me
Skill issue
Can't wait for the next vid of consoles 🤘🏾
Be careful spinning up discs with a crack in it.
I've seen these shatter within the disc drive when it speeds up to 1000's of RPMs and.... what a mess!
I'm still using my copy of mw2 that has a crack like that lmao. I'd have to take it out and put it in my 360 like 8 times to get it to work lol same with my xbox one, since I've gotten my series x it works a lot better for some reason
truth is that one day the controller went down and never picked back up that game was the last one they played before moving on to whatever.
Xbox 360 games contain two licenses. The console that their gamertag is "registered to" (which I remember being able to change 3 times per year), and any console that is actively playing as their gamertag.
I don't like using alcohol when cleaning the lens on the laser being that it can sometimes strip the anti-glare coating on the lens, damaging it sometimes beyond repair. You are better off with a good glass cleaner like Windex.
If I'm remembering correctly, then any game with a half dashed line controller symbol on the 360 is only a trial... 😢
Not the =3 transition ☠️ dang that brought me back
Im still waiting for that 360 piano brother 😂...seriously ...is it gonna be for sale?
With ps3 super slim case is that sometimes that plastic doesnt close enough even if it looks like its closed and disc wont spin
Imagine you’re the guy who sold the consoles to goodwill watching this
Ikr 😂
You don't even sell them, you just donate them
Donation donations
I’ve seen a few ds consoles that I donated that have been featured in RUclips tech restoration videos I always mark my username on the back or sides of my consoles so I know
Rub some banana on the cracks and you may be able to repair cracks enough to get it working. Chocolate will work too. Just wipe it on and buff it.
Skate 3 is one of the best skating games Imo...... had no idea the Resident Evil console existed...... now I just want one
The other rare-ish console I want is 500 Million PS4 Pro and the Halo Edition Xbox Series X (preferably unopenef)
500 million ps4 is awesome… I have one sealed. Can’t bring myself to open it because I don’t want to scratch it up 😂
thats nice that you testing them and fix older consoles.
3:19 its the RWJ transition for me.
My 14 year old niece is still playing her 360. She's a huge fan of GTA so she's been playing 4 alot. She loves Halo and the little sh*t is good at 1v1. I was ashamed of myself 😂
Wii Us are fun. I once got one as "broken" with Lego Batman in the disk slot. Sadly the Wii U doesn't read Nintendo DS games, so that cartridge didn't work there. Once I removed it from the drive the Wii U worked fine. And I got a free copy of Lego Batman DS.
nice video, just before i want to tell you that there are two versions of the xbox 360 jasper motherboard: the V1 (2008 to 2009) and the V2 (2009 to the end of the fat xbox 360)
Its been my experience Goodwill does the best job I've ever seen of packing their items. Ive had ebayers place an item in a box with little or no packing. A few paid the price though as the item arrived demolished and they had to issue a total refund. Yeah I sometimes got to keep the items but they were worthless!!
It really depends on region, but in general they really... *really* don't want to pay refunds, even if they can foot the bill to whoever they have shipping it for mishandling.
Ain’t no way a sealed 360 is only $700
3:19 Jacob really brought back equals=3 3:22
I love skate 3, i played it and i love the open world when you skate, i remember watching DanTDM play mods on it
PlayStation 3 super Slim is pretty reliable and I have never seen a single one showing commom issues that their older brothers did
Super Slim is the GOAT of PS3s fr
demos can be played without a profile, the full game will require the profile that bought it
Jacob: This is an Xbox 360.
Xbox: "Owl sounds."🦉🦉
10:41
Stats
Broken disc drives on 360: 3
Merto Dashes: 5
PS3 with 128 GB Slim:
Wiis Played over 10 years ago: 1
360s with COD: 2
PS3 Super Lims with 500 GB storage: 2
Wiis With Broken Drives: 3
Wiis with Wii Sports: 1
Wiis with SD cards: 1
Wiis With Other Games: 1
Wiis with Tons of Games and Saves: 1
Xboxes With Tons of Profiles: 2
Xboxes With Other Games in Disc Drives: 2
Xbox 360 Played more then 5 years ago: 1
Factory Reset Wii: 1
Xbox 360 with Tons of Games: 1
Wii U's on launch firmware: 1
Factory Reset Wii U's: 3
i spent 3,001 dollars on videogame consoles and goodwill said this to me before you
The wii u could have been modded and blocked and when wiped it doesn't change it back so you may have to enable it with hacks and remove it
loving the videos recently 💯💪
If you google texas load, this is not what appears in the search 😂
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💀💀💀💀💀
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Any channel that shows that blue grid icon thing isnt actually downloaded, it just exists on the menu, when you start them it just tells you about the channel and has a button that takes you to the shop
Captain Obvious
@@RoseTucker11who?
@@Chipmunkboy oh I’m just being sarcastic I do that quite a lot lmao just disregard my silly behavior
@@Chipmunkboy 🤪
@@RoseTucker11ok
Often a console won’t connect to wifi if the time and date is incorrect. That’s probably why that one Wii U wouldn’t connect to internet.
You should try and buy an original PS3 that has never been played before, that would be cool to see!
I dont think there is a disc drive in that 360 at 10:40, it sounded like sonar lol
5:48 This Wii U's homescreen is kind of strange, almost like it's severely out of date in terms of software updates. There's no friend list, miiverse, etc at the bottom. I'm curious what software version it's on
That could be the cause of the Wifi issues.
Someone else said that the Wii u was on the first firmware
Lol, the old Equals 3 transition brought it back.
Deleting their profile dosen't necessarily mean their work is gone.
It should be tied to their Microsoft account.
I love my old 360 slim, a good cleaning every couple years and it's got no problems.
When I bought my Wii U used years ago it had Nintendoland and Super Mario Bros U the later ones had free games to help try and move them.
bro always has that mw2 on deck HAHA
looking at this makes me want to get hundreds of consoles and controllers and fix them up
I remember watching you when I was little and you would put a ps3 disc in a xbox 360 and i thought it would work ☠
I bet nobody catches that “Cool Transition” reference haha
My PS3 super slim has a broken sliding top mechanism and I just did a MacGyver and made it work. It looks like the Desert PS3 from DKOldies inside lol but I’m not opening it until I buy a new outer case. Also my Xbox 360 S needs a new motherboard as mine is parental controls enabled from the previous owner and they don’t know the code. Nice consoles tho
I love this series and can't wait for new episodes.
Just a small correction: At ~ 16:35 you mention that you can't play PS1 games on all PS3s. Thats wrong though, I think you meant Playstation 2 games, which is also not 100 % correct. Afaik, all PS3s got software emulation to play PS1 titles. The first revisions also got hardware emulation for PS2 games, which was later switched to a hardware software combination before being dropped completely - just like they ditched the possibility to install linux on later revisions.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, this is all just from memory.
You're correct but he said that all PS3s can play PS1 games, must've just sounded like he said can't. 🙂
I had that issue with a few Wii U consoles. Weirdly enough I put the Wii U to its side pointing the bottom side to the router. It took a few tries but it connected. I’m not sure if the first gen Wii U had weak Wi-Fi receivers. Anyways just wanted to say my 2 cents :P
Great another issue with the Wii U
@@RoseTucker11barely any Wii U’s have this issue as this issue usually affects the launch models
Imagine finding Kuon, Haunting Ground, or Rule of Rose in a used PS2 💰
I got a wii recently and it included some awesome gc games and a memory card.... it had some amazing save files of great games some of which were included. It was a storage locker find from a couple I know and it was a good one. Still has the flaps and is in good shape. No sd card iirc just the gc memory card
Guarantee those games are left in the consoles of the kids that left for college, or left the house for whatever reason and left their console at home. Mom and dad eventually just give it away, not even opening it to look. I am more surprised that Goodwill doesn't check for these games!
Wild to me that none of these Wiis have the HBC, I'm in Brazil and it's very rare it doesn't
Good stuff man looking for the next ❤ it 😊😊😊😊
The Wii that won’t connect to internet try make sure date and time is set to todays date. I know sometimes that can cause issues. Hope that helps
Call of Duty Black Ops 2 still sells for 28-40 used in game stores 😮
The fact that there was no game disc in the Wii or Wii U but there was in the Xbox360 and PS3 just proves that Nintendo players are smarter. We know to remove discs before selling the console. 😁
the little RWJ bits lmao
The Texas Load sounds like the sequel to Debbie Does Dallas
The way those WiiU's were packaged tells me they know who he is
Lol nah I think goodwill is just actually good at shipping. Most things I buy from them almost have too much bubble wrap 😂 of course better than not enough though
@@jrob0021it depends on which goodwill it is shipped from. I have had an order in the past for a pokemon gold/silver game guide in pretty decent condition from the images that they literally rolled up tight and wedged in a box so it arrived all sorts of messed up lol
In my experience Goodwill does an amazing job of packing their items. The best I have ever seen! Sometimes to the point of overkill!!!
@@jrob0021I love u beautiful
See you are at it again with them consoles, would like to know how to get my hands on a wii u, and even better how to get my hands on 100+ consoles lol
When you delete the profile from a 360 console, the full xbox live games convert down to trials, fyi
I got a lot of ps3s 2 years ago. No free games but was nice to get another copy of christmas vacation and office space.
I could be wrong, but the games installed may not run without the owner profile once connected to xbox live
I like the old =3 transition lol
I remember buying a used PS4 and got Madden 18 for free but the game was cracked
reminder that wii u's can have a spesific part in them that can go bad after the fact cause of a bad chip
warning: wii u games are assigned to a nnid. if it is deleted or changed the wii u wont let you play them
Unlike scalpers on youtube streaming their 2 paperclips and a stick of gum trades, you are doing the used game market a favor by buying these and repairing them so they can stay functional then selling for reasonable prices.
In my experience some Super Slims just randomly decide when they work or not
Wow that is cool...The games still work👍
Where do you get things like replacement drives for Wiis? Are parts still being manufactured or are they pieces of other people's that have been broken into parts? Or is the drive not as specific?
eBay has a ton of them. They're usually recycled from other systems.