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- Continuing with my 'throwback time' series of re-edit older videos, this is the second preparation hike my son, Christian, and I did getting ready for the July 2011 Zirkel Wilderness (Colorado) hike. In this video we traveled to southeast Ohio to hike the Shawnee Backpack Trail.
This trip did not go well!
The most significant mistake we made was even attempting to do the hike at all. An early summer heat wave had arrived in the Midwest and temperatures were forecast to be in the mid-90's with extremely high humidity. In addition the trails were heavily overgrown making progress slow and exhausting.
But as bad as it was for Christian and I, it was even harder on Jaden. We did what we could to keep him comfortable, taking off his pack very early on the first day and using a good portion of our water to keep him cooled off, but it was just too hard on him. Midway through the second day he laid down in the middle of a forest service road and wouldn't go any further. We got 'the message' loud-and-clear, and flagged down a passing truck to give us a ride back to the car.
Though the trip didn't turn out as planned it was a great learning experience early in our backpacking 'career', and great preparation for our first Colorado trip a few weeks later to the Zirkel Wilderness.
This re-edit of the original video was done starting from the raw captured video clips, with off-board image stabilization applied, and created in 1080HD. I hope you enjoy this 'fresh' look at the Shawnee Backpack Trail.
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Your a better man than me...I simply can't tolerate heat like you experienced on this backpacking trip. And while the heat and ticks are bad enough, it's the snakes and poison ivy that keep me off the trails in the summer, except for out west that is. But is was a great learning experience in many ways and better prepared you for your later adventures. Impressed with how much experience you've gained in a few short years. Stay well!
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to experience your earlier hiking trips. Yes, a little younger ,lol but weren't we all, lol. You made the right call as always by cutting the trip short. We might not comment on each video but we watch each one with enthusiasm. Mar and Eva , Arizona
Nice video, thanks for sharing...don't apologize for being the group leader and calling it quits after evaluating the situation. Early in backpacking, we all must learn from our mistakes and failures, move forward and then we can have great experiences. Believe it or not, in the early years of the Shawnee State Forest Backpacking Trail...it was well graded and maintained. Not so much anymore...the forest service has decided to change the trail and use a bulldozer for clearing the trail. As you stated, straight up and down hillsides...I'm not a fan, especially since I remember the beauty of the trail in the 80's. Thanks again for sharing and Happy Trails...
Back in 2015 I was backpacking at Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico when, on day 2 of 11, we carelessly decided we would continue to set up camp on a ridge despite the incoming storm. 5 minutes later and boom, we were all knocked out cold from a lightning strike, waking up moments later to realize we had nearly died and were in the heart of a huge thunderstorm. Just days later, we were hit by the largest storm in the state’s history, leading to a night in terror in the tents and the tragic loss of a scout in a camp nearby to a flash flood. I learned more than one or two lessons that backpacking trip, and they are lessons I will carry with me the rest of my life. Not so great you all had a bad trip, but at least you learned some valuable lessons which is always a rewarding part of backpacking.
I’m pretty sure this is the remake of the FIRST backpacking video I ever watched in RUclips. Thanks for putting this back out there David! “Dads Backpack Trips” really hopes to meet you on the trail one day!
Important and inspiring video, David. Too bad I didn't film my first training trip in the Allegheny National Forest. Early spring 1971. With my orange F. W. Woolworth plastic tube tent and matching 10 pound, 40-degree sleeping bag. Leather work boots and jeans completed the ensemble.
3 days, 2 nights, 1 melted boot sole, and a burnt pant leg later, I stumbled out through the snow, wet, cold and hungry. Haven't left the trails since.
Some say circumstances create attitude, and attitude creates behavior. That trip, like yours, taught me that was 180 degrees off.
Hike on.
Ah, Allegheny. : )
Hey, I can picture your trip of the past. I have similar occurrences, wishing for a camera or way to download and print memories.
June last year, my brother, nephew and i were backpacking in Theodore Roosevelt national park and it got into the mid 90s and there was nowhere to get water. Ended up getting to a road the next morning and hitchhiking back to the car. The disaterous trips are terrible but yet the most memorable and make for great stories.
Appreciate your 're-sharing' this... I grew up in SE Ohio and I truly don't think people understand the heat, the humidity nor the elevation change(s) that can take place in the 'Hills'. Because of that, people get surprised. I am in NC now and it will be much warmer in Ohio (typically) in the Summer than anyplace down here once you get in the foothills. Like 20 degrees warmer than if I am somewhere like Boone or Hot Springs. That little bit of elevation helps a lot + typically provides some breeze as well.
There are lots of thru-hikers doing Q & A's and such now - I know the Schill Bros. or Darwin would welcome you as a guest...
Great discussion.
Yes, you’ve made my Saturday evening! (It’s already evening here in London)
I like watching your old memories when you are learning Thank You for sharing
Awesome vid!! Inspiration for my videos. Subscribed!
Please do not apologize for your behavior in this video, David. Your comments are real and genuine and allow me to understand how it was for you. It is part of the adventure. And I probably watched the original several times and you haven’t lost me yet. I would rather have your thoughts and behaviors be pure than superficial, minimized, saccharine and all perfect camera shots. Of course you have grown through the years. I am certainly am not the young woman holding and reading the book Camping for Idiots in one hand while trying to light a fire, LOL...I now love my solo wilderness adventures and have patience and wisdom in dealing with obstacles most of the time. I guess it depends on what is important to you, where you want to take your channel and what you want to see when your 75 years old viewing them again perhaps with grandchildren. I see an amazing man spending precious time in a beautiful setting with his son in very challenging conditions. Each step of one’s journey should be honored as is, no? Then do the next right thing, they say.
We just got done helping build 16 miles of new Buckeye trail at the Edge of Appalachia which is about 20 miles west of Shawnee State Forest. A few days the dewpoint was in the high 70s and 90+ degrees. The future plan is to connect the Edge of Appalachia with the Shawnee State Forest with all off road trail. The backpack trail was actually designed to be as tough as possible to use as training for the more mountainous trails out west. I can understand why they bulldozed the trail a few years ago watching this video. Wider trail is definitely a benefit to not get as many tics.
wow.... that was a brutal trip.... you are right though some of our forests in the midwest can be exactly like a tropical jungle and I've been in both so i know... you did the right thing calling it like you did... dehydration and heatstroke are a real thing... i always take some of those electrolyte sachets with me in the summer and chug, chug and chug some more.. great cautionary tale video thanks...
Very cool someone helped out at the end. I had a similar situation happen to me. It kind of renews your faith in humanity every now and then. Not every trip goes as plan but you can learn from every trip. Thanks for sharing!
Loved your lesson learned intro - very relevant if those who have ears to hear will listen to the wisdom.
I will backpack in the cold and be happy any day as I am a "leaker". Water just pours off me in the humidity.
I did the Red Cedar Trail in Shawnee NF is Southern IL in late June, same heat and humidity, trail conditions, bugs and lack of views or geological features and fun. We even had a road-walk, like you did, after the trail just disappeared and we had to bushwack to the road.
It does make you appreciate all other trails, heh. Thanks for sharing the truth that Summer backpacking can have it's share of suck. ;)
Yikes!! The one phrase that I could think of about watching this. However, glad to made it back to the vehicle safely. Very beautiful scenery at the camp site!! Sending greetings from Washington state!! :)
I can’t believe you were willing to relive that one 😳.
Yes, I know. I still cringe thinking about that hike - like a 'nam flashback. But I've been wanting to re-edit, and re-publish a bunch of my earliest hikes and this was actually the first one I worked on. I actually finished the re-edit of this video back in 2015, but never brought myself to actually re-publish it. All of this tragic coronavirus quarantine stuff finally got me motivated to pull the trigger on some long-lingering projects I have had in mind. Plus, I've been talking with the Schill Brothers often lately, and they mentioned to me that my original Shawnee video traumatized them 'for ever' in terms of doing that hike :-) - based on that I felt the need to get a new HD-version of hike out there to re-traumatize a whole new generation of backpackers!
David Gray 😂
Loving these throwbacks. More videos the better! Those tough trips are always a learning experience for sure.
Good stuff David! Well, except the scary parts. Thank you for keeping us entertained during these crazy times 🙏
Hey David, I have watched your videos for years and all I can say on this excerpt is “you’ve come a long way pilgrim”. Greetings from KY.
Every trip is an adventure and a learning experience. I really struggle in humidity, so glad I live in Colorado.
Not a fan of high heat and high humidity. My dog went through heat stroke (didn't hit until late at night) after a day on a sandy beach on a lake in northern Minnesota. Not a fun experience. So glad Jaden (and you and Christian) survived that adventure.
Yes, me too. In hindsight it was scarier than it was at the time, thinking what could have been. Fortunately, Jaden was 'no worse for wear' from the experience and continues to have many great trail miles in him. To this day the most powerful lesson from the experience is to never push a hike after 'the fun is gone', and even though I have now 'bailed' on many hikes since then I have never had one regret about any of those 'failed' hikes.
Love it David, these are all just great.
I had a similar experience in Red River Gorge, during a Memorial Day weekend. And also at Clifty Falls in a late March.
Those hot, humid days take their toll, especially when I get used to the winter weather and get slightly out of shape.
I do far prefer cold camping but spring and summer are just as awesome seasons.
"Always look at the bright side of life."
very nice
I still use a katadyn hiker pump filter. 👍🏻
Nightmare! And tell us why you do this again? :) Thanks for sharing.
Never knew anyone would hike in 90 degree weather. I draw the line at 65-70.
Yes, I know. Never again for me either. That was back in the early days when I didn't think that much about such things, but I learned quickly! We were driven to do that hike as a training/prep hike for the Zirkel Wilderness Colorado trip we did a couple weeks later. That was the only weekend we could do the hike, and we needed the 'training', so we just went with it.
Wow, Looks as if you'll were backpacking somewhere in the South where I'm from. Had no idea humidity and temps got that high in Ohio! Totally understand your frustrations on the lack-there-of any trail maintenance. Been in that situation. Glad you all had a good and safe ending, and your Son still wishes to go backpacking. That's a true blessing . My Son and my first ever backpacking trip was a disaster of a different kind (lots of rain) and unfortunately that did it for him for backpacking.
Yep, Southern Ohio, for that matter all of the Buckeye State, gets a lot of heat in summer ; )
In fact, the state has seen over 110°F before, without heat index. Thankfully I haven't experienced that, thus far. But I have seen 115 in heat index.
That's the main thing, to learn from each hike. Good or bad. Also you brought out the 2011 "gun show" for the ladies when wringing the shirt out. Thanks for the updated version.
I totally understand
Patrick Lee 90% of the buckeye trail I go on is not maintained if you even come across a blue blaze it's miracle
Then of course we have the other 10% which is maintained once every 5 years
so yes I totally understand
The Buckeye Trail, at times, is just a line on a map. : )
@@AJKPenguin yes it is
I think every trail will either break you or make you it just depends on the day
Hot or cold rainy or sleet or Wendy
I live in Ohio but have never been here. It looks pretty jungly did you see any snakes when you were there? thanks for sharing
No snakes, thankfully, but they are certainly there. Christian was pretty wigged-out about snakes the entire trip (I'm more in the 'healthy respect' camp when it comes to snakes... but no fear for me), so if we had run into any it would have probably gotten pretty ugly with everything else we were dealing with.
A number of them are here. They are more scared than you though. This State Park, like all of Southern Ohio, is awesome in cooler weather.
It's 1000 degrees out and you build a fire? But thanks for posting this. Now I know not to do this trail!
First video I’ve seen from you when you weren’t positive. Even counting the mosquitoes in Glacier! I still enjoyed the video and look forward to more redos. But, who builds a fire when it’s 90 degrees outside?
I know. I actually think it was this video that gave me a whole different outlook on backpacking. It wasn't the 'trails' fault that we had a rough time on this one - that was totally on me! I'm certain it was this hike that made me improve both my planning for the trips I wanted to do, as well as my attitude towards them. In hindsight, I think much of the negative 'mojo' you pick up on in this trip is kicking myself for subjecting my son, and my dog, to the kind of misery we experienced. It was totally avoidable.
Fires are good to smoke bugs out, but you're right. Way too warm to have one otherwise.
Cold and wet vs hot and humid. Which is worse for backpacking?
Hot and humid is worse for me, for sure. Dogs too. The dogs don't handle the heat (and humidity) very well, and though I can tolerate it I certainly don't enjoy. Even though I'm no fan of the brutal cold either, I would take cold and rainy over hot and humid anyday. I can always take more clothes and bundle up more for the cold, but there isn't much you can do to escape the heat and humidity, especially at night.
Is this a good first timer trail cause I like 40 min to 2 hr away from this place, and since when has it been that hot in ohio what the
This is a great training/proving ground. It's also a great place to visit in cooler temperatures, should you not want an extremely humid hike.
That made me itchy😉