WARZONE VS CDL PRO'S DEBATE (FT. ZOOMAA, REPULLZE, METHODZ, SUPEREVAN)
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2022
- WARZONE VS CDL PRO'S DEBATE (FT. ZOOMAA, REPULLZE, METHODZ, SUPEREVAN)
FaZe ZooMaa, Methodz, Repullze, Methodz, Superevan talk about the Warzone Players vs Call of Duty League Pro Players COD Pros debate featuring conversation about Aydan, Scump, Nadia, Swagg, Biffle, JoeWoe and more.
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Once everyone realizes that most of these "Warzone pros" are literally just failed SND Kids from back in the day. They'd realized they'd get smoked.
Exactly!!!
Damn that’s a violation
I’m seeing RUclips channels call warzone pros like aydan and zlaner saying that these two and many others use aimbot. So yeah I’d think that cdl pros are better than warzone pros
People dont realize how hard it is to be consistent in respawn in the cdl
i mean aydan got a offer to play in the cdl at the beginning of the year lmao
This isn’t a debate, we all know CDL Pros consistently play against high level competition, while warzone pros put a 40 bomb on RUclips killing “KSILover777”. Ayden dropped like 11 kills in a pro scrim once lmao
You'd be on 0 kills so why u laughing you're not goof for either one lmao foh
@@SiiCKEM92 aydan fan?🤣
@@SiiCKEM92 the Aydan meat riders are everywhere HOLY SHIT
Almond, also a Warzone player, dropped 31 and the most kills in that lobby. So what now?
@@kobilee9504 Someone had to carry the killing on the team lol, 3/4 of warzone pros were negative. While ALL the CDL Pros were positive
Also @SiCKEM, I’ve been playing COD since 2008, I could drop ayden numbers playing ratty lmao catch me in them credy corners
I just dont see how these warzone “pros” can be “pros” from playing againts casual players. CDL players play AGAINST other real Professional players
Aimbot peddle and walls too, not a chance in hell they can compete without thier cheats
theyre on about customs, not v casuals
They make money playing Warzone so by definition they are pro but you’re not wrong about them playing casuals. When you think about it, they kinda have it made making bank shitting on casuals.
Fools shootin against jimbo and dreal who’s a walking .6. Yeah I’m sure nobody would have a chance against them lmaooo
We live in a delusional world brotha
Always love a good discussion - need more of this stuff fs
Yeah. I do believe there’s about 1-6 people in the Warzone pro community that could PROBABLY make a the switch after a year cycle probably. Maybe longer. They obviously have a shot
@@TehThxsis I don’t think a year is feasible, I think 2-3 years.
The fact y’all were trying to compare biffle to 2x cod world champs is fuckin wild to me
nbs lmao like what am i hearing
theyre saying talent wise. if you watch biffle he is super talent in terms of decision making. he was gross at apex too. It might be that he will be ass at CDL format comp but he is super talented.
But i do feel like simp and abezy would shit on any warzone kid any time. cell and priestahh were breaking records before cold war came out effortlessly and priestah isnt even top 20 in the CDL.
Do they not remember when Karma 1v3'd Biffle, Swagg, and Booya? 😭
@QUIET 87 cry about ut
One of the best videos I’ve watched in awhile! This was awesome!
The fact that hector said the comment about shotzzy being good at so many games is so different than Diaz shotzzy won a world championship in comp halo thats the equivalent of winning cod champs he’s a proven world champion
I feel like people don’t realize if a pro cdl player is playing warzone or ranked it’s there day off, they aren’t putting any effort and they still fry
I love the respectful debate! Good content
LETS GOO! I missed this so im hyped to hear this!
Faze literally set kill records. As a team, and they played two weeks into the off season.
Scump literally won. Just playing for a weekend, CDL bench warmers are playing Warzone and frying, and winning. Lol
They forget that abezy cell and preistahhh set kill record with vikkstarrr 😂😂😂😂
Scump didn’t only play for a weekend he played a lot before that I was in the streams
@@Green.P3 is that why he had to use non meta guns becuase he didnt have any good attachments for the meta weapons?
@@nicklawlor5257 He was using other guns
@@Green.P3 even scump says it. He just rolled out of bed into a 100k😂😂😂
This was a great really civil debate lol shoutout to zoomaa and the boys
Playing casuals in Warzone on your 300fps computer with 0 latency with controller on PC at 120fov versus kids with their original Xbox 1s and ps4s at 80fov 60fps in an RNG game.. compared to playing the best players in the world daily on the same setup as everyone else with no bullshit guns, attachments, perks, etc and relying on talent, gunskill, game awareness, & game sense seems clear cut and dry to me LOL
This difference doesn’t get brought up enough. Old gen consoles struggle to go above 30fps too.
Great comment this
Damn this was awesome, they both made good points.
The CDL is the more competitive format as it has significantly less uncontrollable variables (no third parties, no OP pick ups, no advantageous zone pulls, etc.) and therefore, it would be the most accurate way to compare WZ & CDL players. It's possible that some WZ players could hang with the pros but until they actually compete in the CDL, it's just speculation.
Perfectly stated. It’s definitely possible that some warzone pros could get into the cdl but none are trying it
@@xanderwendt7404Because the truth is “Warzone Pros” make more money than CDL Pros and they work for themselves. There’s a bigger market for Warzone than competitive CoD.
It would be fun to watch a custom game of both MP and Warzone custom lobbies and have CDL go against WZ players. Make it happen Hitch
Activision fails to capitalize on the hype, they should run a tournament CDL vs Warzone pros between different game modes like the one hitch planned but officially done on lan with something like a 100k on the line, people would watch the f out of that.
Whenever this debate comes up I remind people of the ATL FaZe vs Nuke Squad S&D match they played a while back
36:09 “You hear me prick?” - Zinni to Zooma 😭💀😂
Let's see Biffle rotate 3 hardpoints perfect, while calling out, while FaZe are crossing him.
It wouldn’t be fun I promise that and everyone on the same ping
He’d prob get caught sprinting around the map and die every time
The thing about being a pro in cdl is everything u do every time u spawn fkin matters and decision making not only needs to be damn quick but the decision u make is also needs to be right. literally anyone can fkin shoot their gun when you have 0 recoil, anyone can slide cancel and have their movement look good with non stop sprinting and increased health
Zooma and zinni are actually a fire duo and I think they need they’re own show kind of like a pinch or something quick cause Ik we already have the flank but man are y’all takes fun to listen to
Bruh tommey was literally on the bench of a cdl team and than fried in warzone
The real debate is whether or not Biffle could make it in the CDL, because no other warzone players are in the discussion.
It's settled next all star game get a 4v4 vs the top 4 warzone players in a best of 5
Deadass got an ad every minute
This ain't Ronaldo vs Messi
This is TikTok vs RUclips.
Lets have some warzone teams enter the next pro am. Should all get money from teams for participating.
Hi vauels Can you please post the fifa clips from zoomaas stream? I missed it
Hector sounds like every rando in a mw2 lobby saying his friend has offers and beat pros but "I don't have footage"
We can’t count 2v2 pubs vs pro scrims, maybe could relate/compare custom warzone tourneys, but even when doing that- it still doesn’t seem 100% comparable.
To me this is like Boxing vs MMA. An MMA fighter can go to boxing, probably still lose but handle their business. If a boxer goes to MMA then it’s good luck.
A CDL pro can go to Warzone, struggle but get through it. A Warzone pro is going to the CDL is going to have a tougher time.
There’s a reason scump won the warzone tournament.. end of😂
Did it w/out cheesing riot shields, as well.
He literally didn't know the meta till the day before the event and he had the most kills. Unreal
@@splash8594 I loved how he explained the solution to those riot shielders. “One if these (throws stun), one of those (throws semtex)” and we’re good to go 😂
@@buzzzzzy8924 🤣🤣🤣he literally was shitting on them. Anyone who thinks Simp, AbeZy, Cell, Dashy, Envoy, Kenny, etc all the top CDL pros can’t do EXACTLY what Seth did your drunk period.
He gun clapped everybody
Zoomaa you should react to almond playing vanguard 8’s, he is actually amazing at snd and he recently won a Bo2 hp and snd tourney. I feel like he is one of the few warzone pros who actually has the awareness, comms and gunny to be in the cdl after a few months
Vanguard sucks
@@CurlSQD he just won a Bo2 tournament and carried
He used to play snd tourneys against pros and got shit on lmao
@@COD_Lounge yea no, almond was running the snd scene alongside other people that r now pros for YEARS before warzone
@@ArifAli-mr4sh Against who tho?
The best warzone player would look like prolute, pure raw skill but not “Pro” ready yet my comparison
Add Ranked Mode to WZII and ban certain OP Loadouts and let's see how they handle
TST gotta host a CDL pro/warzone pro tourney
The one argument you can make is snd kids make the transition to variant easily but it's very different so I doubt it would be as easy
Why didnt Biffle play against the pros when CW or Vanguard came out and they did the streamer and pro tournaments? I mean swagg, booya, symfunny, joewo, and others did and they all got exposed. But Biffle can stay with no cameras online and have the most suspect gameplay in the history of warzone, and somehow be in the same conversation with Simp and Cellium is crazy.
Why is Zooma entertaining this conversation? Especially about biffle guy is a cheater and would never make it in challangers let alone the CDL.
Yeah he's literally a cheater.
@@musc258 yah guy yah I'm literally dog shit so I think the best warzone players in the world is cheating yah yah
Biffle 1 v 1d methodz and smoked him
@@sshk12341 I guarantee he had his cheats ROARING
The way hector says ‘deadass’ reminds me of shotzzy so much bro😭
SnD requires a deep understanding of the fundamentals of CoD that’s why SnD starts in the past have been able to play in the league. There’s still a lot of learning to do in respawns but if you can play and dominate SnD you have a good shot in Comp.
There’s no debate here. This is pros vs pubstompers all over again
Just stop… if any of the warzone pros would actually face good players every game they would not be popular. I used to watch warzone and whenever they came across a “sweat” they left the lobby.
Or called them a cheater lol
I mean you gotta think, pubstomping promotes the game. Not averaging a 1.5 against pros in a tournament. WZ fucked up by making the same mistake they did in MP by not pushing a pro league. They just cater to casuals by letting pros shit on casuals all day
CDL Pros vs Warzone content creators get it right there is no such thing as a warzone pro. Pro league vs entertainment league.
I know repullze didn’t bring up a ranked game that only had two members of a team Against them. More than Half the time, pros are only like 25%-50% trying in ranked and you can tell that because they all basically stream while playing.
🤦🏻♂️ he's just saying he has the gunny to compete with high level CDL pros
CDL pro’s and warzone players can shoot straight. However, CDL players on average have:
Better comms
Better movement
Quicker reactions
Better in game intelligence
We gotta see these guys go against challengers though. If they can’t even make a solid attempt against people that have yet to be in the CDL at all then idk
Constent intensity is a big change from warzone to cdl.
I love warzone and that's all I play. but CDL pros would destroy every 'so called warzone pro' if they grinded for a few weeks. no contest.
All these warzone pros just need to realize they would get bodied and no one from warzone will compete against cdl pros in a cdl format
Nah bro, this aint a debate at all. I can see SOME of them going into challengers work it for a few months/years and maybe they get up in the league one day. But I personally just dont see them frying cdl talent.
It’s just the small fish in a big pond over the big fish in a big pond debate, the only way to prove yourself is against the best and that’s in the League.
I feel like it tougher for warzone players to switch to cdl but I do feel cdl pros are better just because of the consistency of competition they face compared warzone pro who face some good people but mostly just killing middle schooler jimmy on a ps4...
Even in customs, the lvl of comp just isn't there. Like I'm pretty sure anybody can get in a custom, not saying there's not good player in customs but definitely a good amount of 🍔's
Tommy i swear when you're faded, the truth and perspectives expand lol
Biffle reminds me of Hydra - I think that’s how it would go if Biffle grinded to get into the CDL. Both have the gunskill and movement but lack comms. Obviously Hydras comms got way better since he’s played but that seems like a good comparison. Would love to see him try on a team like Vegas
biffle wouldnt make it out of challengers....
You need too give comms every single second in warzone like you do in multiplayer it’s different
@@NimbleFPS Stop being a hater. Diaz is nasty. I been watching CDL since BO2 and he is better than a ton of current and former players could have dreamed to be.
Not only do "WZ Pros" play against casuals, BR's are rng based games...
I'd agree if it wasn't for loadouts
He’s talking about Q’ing up against arcitys cell and them means that he was challenger on ranked
Fun fact: Scump is considered a warzone pro....what a legend XD
He’s not
My best analogy for this, even though I know it’s all a troll at the end of the day, is CDL Pros play ranked for fun, WZ Pros play pubs for money. Two totally different worlds
Why are we even debating professionals vs People who’s career is based on RNG in a BR?
Simple a warzone player needs to get in the league, this is easily provable. If it doesn't happen then proof is in the pudding
Let's just say there's a reason during the mw season the pros did warzone, and not warzone players trying CDL rules multiplayer
This is such a dumb take. ONE player doesn’t prove that NO ONE can do it
@@arod68993 wouldn't it literally prove it tho?? Hahaha I think you're over thinking it
Being a warzone pro is like being a professional wrestler 🤼♀️
Wait so who else is in the convo is Just Ds ? So only one player against all the cdl or is actually other players that would be nasty to ?
Have biffle and 3 other players play FaZe in HP, S&D and control, then play a rebirth kill race
when 100k was on the line who won ?
Bro Tom lose the glasses if you're not gonna stop messing with em the whole time. We see em dawg you don't have to keep your fingers on em the whole time for us to see em 😂😂
Zoomaa really threw FaZe VPN in his thumbnail
easy in warzone with broken weapons ...that stuff gets GA'd in CDL because its cheesy to win a gunfight with broken mechanics and weapons
Biffle could compete in the cdl but it would take lots and lots of practice. Only very few warzone players are talented enough to compete in the league. 90% of CDL players could find success in warzone. At the end of the day talent isn’t the issue, the discussion should be which is easier. WZ is an easier competitive game.
My problem with BR is the amount of cheaters. And “pro” streamers that cheat or vpn to look great. They may be amazing in the cdl it’s just not credible imo.
Bro said ranked play lmao. Pro players play ranked like it's pubs, just running around the map and chillin on stream hahaha
Ik man it was probably on bocage
This isn't the anime tier list they promised
If Vegas Legion signed 4 Warzone “pros” for MW2 they wouldn’t win a map all season. And they’d get smoked by the top 10% of challengers teams.
any Warzone pro in any CDL LAN environment will get shredded. thats facts. Warzone is completely different than playing OBJ based matches against killers. Abezy, Simp, Scump, Shotzzy... i can keep going
It's not about the player it's just two different engines on the game.
I also don't know why people think scump was playing warzone when he won the tournament.
brotha I've played cod since 2003...playing against pros and warzone ":pros" is a big difference lol just know its a different gunfight...I've done the tourneys and challs a decade ago i know...i have 1100+ warzone wins and clips of me shitting on mercs and symfuhny since BO3 and verdansk and the ranked play shit i hopped on the first time ever and rocked everyone so ranked play doesn't mean anything if you're already nice with it
Give Doug a month and he would run Warzone
Lmaoooooo this convo can’t be real, warzone players are not holding up against pros
Repullze and evan saying fifa ‘was good at this game’ indicating he wasn’t good at verdansk is the biggest downplay if I’ve ever seen it. fifa literally got his opportunity in 2021 and ended up being the top 5 earners in warzone for the year in verdansk with having played way less tournaments than the rest of the top the guy has insane gunny comms and awareness
Why are people still talking about this. The game of warzone isnt competitive, not the pros fault, but idk how anyone compares a 50 player lobby with random weapons, spawns wherever you want from dropping, and a hybrid scoring based on kills and placement. Like how do you watch a warzone pro and take anything away besides how good of a gunny they are.
I already know this is gonna make me lose brain cells
if Diaz put 1-2 years of straight GRINDING comp/challengers he would definitely make the league. is he gonna be on Simp/Abezy level? maybe not, but he is 100% talented enough to make it in. hes probably the only player that has a real chance out of the Warzone scene (that wasnt already in the league). Aydan, Almxnd and ScummN are behind him but it may take them longer to do it. regardless of all that, obviously CDL players are more talented compared to the average warzone players. this shouldnt be a real argument because it isnt. love both Warzone and the CDL and would love to see some tournaments between the 2
Buy kneepads
@@hs4248 why because i have the same opinion as Tom and Zinni ? would you tell them the same thing?
He's literally one of the biggest cheaters out there. Lmfao. No facecam ever and the most sus gameplay I've ever seen lmao
Hector sounds like Tony Robbins
I hope people dont take this too serious lmao
ITs just fun banter, I doubt most of the WZ pros actually believe it
The problem is WZ is like playing pubs. CDL is all cod fundamentals more than just ur shot. U have to know how to play the correct way plus ur playing the best of the best. It's like comparing college football to the NFL. College players are good. But the NFL is the best of the best!
why cant chat just soak it all in and let there thumbs do the talking
There’s not a debate.
i was already going to say CDL pros but i was further sold when i saw nadia on the thumbnail
This was great I think Diaz is the best warzone player by far no top 5 just top 1
Yeah idk all this video did for me was make me like zinn way more bro is so fucking funny
Diaz played the ufc apex tourney against apex pros and smoked them. Dude is built diff
The chick in the thumbnail border line rage hacks lmaoo
Also no COD pro has ever played the same game with the same mechanics for over one year...
Im only half way through the vid don't yell but, has anyone said anything about scumin?
scump & zoomaa 2v2 any warzone kids on Earth and they absolutely smoke their pack
He’s being accused of cheating idk if he is but I wanna see him play on lan and we can see what happens.
He has already played LAN and won. Also he played Apex with k & m in a lan event and won against other people that play apex consistenly. So on how many games is he cheating? Don't listen to those people bro
There already was a CDL vs Warzone Pro and the CDL won. Scump won the World Series of Warzone
not really a debate. pros are superior. plus all these warzone “pros” are literally hackers, call of shame yt channel bought this into perspective.
some of the best Warzone players are kids who weren't good enough for challengers let alone the CDL
The kids he is taking about is out of his mind cracked but it takes a lot more then that to be a cod pro it would take him half the year to Lear what to do and maybe the whole year to get a positive kid he would get shit on no disrespect