NHS to stop prescribing puberty blockers: 'You can't just stop biology in time!'
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Conservative MP, Miriam Cates, responds to the NHS stopping the prescription of puberty blockers.
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Are they going to start apologising to Graham Linehan. Talking about kids being given puberty blockers got him cancelled.
he really did get a raw deal for being logical. also fuck graham norton for the part he has played.
@jamesw2414 that’s TRUE…he got his career ruined, his projects cancelled, his marriage fell apart, he cannot even do a stand up at the Edinburgh Fringe festival without being outed of the venue…
Such shameful treatment of a man who knows what integrity and ethics look like!
I have the most respect for him…
The Irish are real leaders in this fight with Helen Joyce and Graham Linehan ☘
Graham ought to be knighted for 'service to protect women and children'
@@lynnm6413What utter nonsense
That would be an ecumenical matter.
The lefty groomers will be devastated 🙄
Labour voters especially
@TheGamesEmporium it is sick
The fact that this conversation is even being had in this world is absolutely disgusting. The fact that puberty blockers exists shows the sickness that exists in the world is totally revolting..
There are a few Tories who've swallowed this ideology, too, and the LibDems are full of it; and most of the grass-roots opposition to it is coming from women on the left. It's not as left-right - as binary, ironically - as you might think. But, yes, the lefty groomers/trans activists are losing their minds, which is always cause for celebration. 😃
Most of us Leftys are the ones who have been fighting it!! Most at speakers corner are Leftys!!
They never should of started!
Stonewall no longer represents LGB. It is TQI focused. Its important that this is acknowledged. #LGBwithouttheTQ
The Ls, the Gs and the Bs kept pretty quiet though didn't they?
No they F@@KING didn't @@edenbreckhouse
@@edenbreckhouse absolutely not!! We've been fighting this since the TQICULT was enforced on us around 2018! People are only now catching up
@redrum7475 not constantly. Once. Mermaids tried to have them shut down. It failed. Mermaids are now under investigation. Stonewall needs investigated to for its role in the indoctrination of many with its propaganda
The TQ+ are using the LGB as a Trojan horse to spread their dangerous ideology. Stonewall is now clearly an openly homophobic charity. I wish I could say that I'm surprised it remains so influential, but I'm not because people in positions of authority are invariably stupid.
It is disgusting giving puberty blockers to children they aren't mature enough to know there own minds the parents who condone this are totally irresponsible
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
Parent were taken into court in the USA, Australia and Canada to force them to consent. Delia Morris
A conservative MP who is actually talking sense for once.
For years people have given me the "oh you're a terf/transphobe" look when I spoke against puberty blockers and cross sex hormones. I'm so glad it's coming out so publically and these kids will actually be protected against ideological thinking
We stood on the right side of history and eventually these people are gonna have to catch up or play dumb. Be proud of that.
@@Abi-mf6qy I wish it were pride i felt and not horror. it has taught me a lot about group think and socialisation. i hope i never forget the lessons
@@souxcasa I feel you so much on that
good
I dont know how this topic led onto assisted dying. Two completely unrelated topics. Its a reflection of terrible ignorance to merge them together in any way.
Not to mention the uneducated thoughtlessness revealed by everything you said about assisted dying. It was a mistake for any of you to speak about a topic you clearly did not bother to give due consideration to.
Not everything is appropriate to politicise. Some things require consideration far beyond the scope of politics.
Why did the public give this their full backing to this in the first place ?
We didn't
@@clairhonnor6211 but they did voting for it
When were they asked? It just appeared and grew. Delia Morris
@@stequality let's just hope that there are no incidents, these women can take a share of blame for it. Trans identified men commit violent and sexual offences at exactly the same rate as all men, it's only a matter of time
W england
The best thing the NHS have done for a while.
It's not 'care', it's abuse
I think of the descendants of Nazi doctors when I think of Tavistock. That place is demonic. It was from day one.
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
You literally have no clue what you are talking about. 😊
@@liam7342
I suppose you think it would be ok for a 12 year old to have a face tattoo
@@liam7342 You literally have no empathy for the TORTURED children being used as human LAB RATS. What “clinic” do you work at?
As a mother of ,4 grandmother of 11 i demand these people who was part of this abuse to be brought to justice
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
Really, our NHS should never have been involved in this insanity in the first place, it's child abuse pure and simple, and those involved in this need to brought to justice.
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
Almost everything these people have said is a lie. Puberty blockers have been used in cis kids for decades, it's untested in the same way that statins are untested (puberty blockers are older than statins).
The reason there is such a high blocker to transition rate is because they are only given if medical professionals are as certain as is possible that the kid is trans.
And regret rates for medical and surgical transition hover hover around 1%, which is incredibly low with the average regret rate for other surgery being around 14% with the number for cosmetic surgery being around 20% (kids get nose jobs in the UK and nobody kicks up a fuss).
The reason they have stopped giving them is as part of an incomplete study that has had a public consultation stage where only 5% of responds were medically trained. Because of this ruling I guarantee there will be a spike in child and teen suicides and that is blood on the hands of people that think like you.
@@liam7342People that go through these trans unalive them selves more after treatment. It’s in all the studies. Netherlands have done.
Unbelievable that prescriptions were being issued in the first place!
Trans kids aren't the only ones taking puberty blockers.
We've been giving puberty blockers to children with precocious puberty for well over 80 years all to no ill effect. Puberty blockers are not in any way harmful and are completely reversible. Only people who don't know about puberty blockers or don't understand them want them banned. You are anti science and are preventing children from getting the healthcare they need. Fool
@@BuckerydogSchmuckeryDogno they’re not, they are given to children going through precocious puberty. When those children reach their natural pubertal age, they’re taken off the blockers and continue their lives as per any normal teen their age. Those children may suffer long term side effects from the blockers but it’s considered much better for children who are 6, not to be having periods or have their voice breaking amongst other consequences. A friend of mines children both had precocious puberty very young and although their mum was hesitant to to allow them to have blockers, it beat them going to primary school dealing with all those symptoms. Now they’re in their late teens they’ve experienced a natural puberty and are doing well. That’s what they should be used for. Not restricting pubertal age children from going through what nature intended for their bodies. That’s the sort of thing a pedo would find desirable. But you know that.
@@mainlysmiles5823 ..thanks for explaining this. Delia Morris
@@BuckerydogSchmuckeryDogok groomer
Just as bad, is calling it gender "affirming" when it is obviously the opposite!
It's butchery and about as scientific as humors or phrenology.
Weak parents have been duped into immoral and repulsive experimentations on their own children.
We've been giving puberty blockers to children with precocious puberty for well over 80 years all to no ill effect. Puberty blockers are not in any way harmful and are completely reversible. Only people who don't know about puberty blockers or don't understand them want them banned. You are anti science and are preventing children from getting the healthcare they need. Fool
@@d3w3yd3c1m4lSo giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is butchery?
Fucked up shit
Now we need prosecutions of those involved in this form of abuse.
Past victim lawsuits incoming
The law suits have already started
My physician colleagues who engaged in this practice are in for a very rough ride with lawsuits left-right-center
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
Already thousands on the go
@@clairhonnor6211 Why would anyone sue?
The NHS should be providing physciatric counselling instead of puberty blockers to children
Exactly. Psychiatric treatment from therapists who are not under the belief they need to “affirm” them as well. They need a psychiatrist without an agenda and whose only concern is to try to treat and improve the health of the patient.
@jujutrini8412 absolutely spot on
Mental health care for nut jobs is not politically correct. Crazies should be affirmed, their delusions should be validated. We call this compassion & civil rights 🥴
They do. Puberty blockers are the last resort. And they are only given to children who request them. How hard is this to understand?
@@Schnoz42069children also request no school and candy for dinner. Which is about the equivalent ro this for their well being
How did the NHS get away with doing it ? As stated. Ideologically captured.
We've been giving puberty blockers to children with precocious puberty for well over 80 years all to no ill effect. Puberty blockers are not in any way harmful and are completely reversible. Only people who don't know about puberty blockers or don't understand them want them banned. You are anti science and are preventing children from getting the healthcare they need. Fool
About time! They should never have been used in the first place. Stonewall should be shut down.
Yes but it is much bigger than stonewall. ruclips.net/video/hGKxSyEqCgU/видео.htmlsi=NtiD3UzwnqEMaNxC
We've been giving puberty blockers to children with precocious puberty for well over 80 years all to no ill effect. Puberty blockers are not in any way harmful and are completely reversible. Only people who don't know about puberty blockers or don't understand them want them banned. You are anti science and are preventing children from getting the healthcare they need. Fool
Yes they can go if they keep promoting this. They just want the money to continue as an organisation. Delia Morris
what they dont telll you is its moving into the private sector..... these scumbags will not let go
Thank God, I find this so called "care" so sad. I am 65 now but I was a really impressionable and attention seeking teenager and I probably would have latched on to puberty blockers. By the time I hit my late teens I was a very different person, I had settled and knew where I was going with my life.
about time too.. they are not reversible and the knock on effects are dangerous. experimentations on children is pure evil
Correct. When I was treated for prostate cancer in 2017 I was given hormone therapy as part of my treatment. The hormone drugs stopped my body producing testosterone on which prostate cancer feeds. Those same drugs are used to treat precocious puberty in young children who are entering puberty too early. They are also used in transgender treatment. Seven years on from my treatment I still have side effects from it and I was only on the drugs for 6 months. I had to take the drugs to save my life. In most cases children don't need them. GThank goodness for the sake of our precious children the NHS is going to stop providing them. It should never have been allowed.
@@CosmicCoral I know exactly what I'm thinking of and you're wrong. The drugs I took for my hormone therapy are also used as puberty blockers and I still have side effects from them. Did you think that as a cancer patient I wouldn't research the drugs being used yo treat me? I am an academic and as far as the internet goes my first question when I read something is always "is this true?" Please don't assume that other people are incapable of doing their own research.
We've been giving puberty blockers to children with precocious puberty for well over 80 years all to no ill effect. Puberty blockers are not in any way harmful and are completely reversible. Only people who don't know about puberty blockers or don't understand them want them banned. You are anti science and are preventing children from getting the healthcare they need. Fool
@@bahoonies Puberty blockers have no permanent negative effects. All their negative effects are reversible and treatable.
@@Schnoz42069cult members are the only ones that believe that. Everyone else knows that's a lie.
Puberty blockers aren’t reversible because you gave this to children!!!
They are reversible
@@Schnoz42069They are not!
@@Schnoz42069 You say that as if a child will develop normally if they stop taking it. No they won't, often it will be too late and they'll have missed out on key stages of development during puberty. This is a recipe for eunuchs.
@@koen8993 They will develop normally if they stop taking it AND begin artificial puberty. We know this because it's been done before. Artificial puberty reverses puberty blockers.
@@koen8993 They will develop normally if they stop taking it AND begin artificial puberty. We know this because it's been done before. Artificial puberty reversed puberty blockers.
Good news, just look at what puberty blockers did to Sir Keir Starmer.
Both Starmer and Sunak.
@@S-Northyes but only Sunak knows what he is 😂
@@matthewrowe9903 .. love him. Delia Morris
NOT REVERSABLE THATS A TOTAL LIE ! Ive looked at the surgery and its total BUTCHERY
They are completely reversible. Artificial puberty completely reverse there effects. Cope
The surgeries aren't what's being discussed here, so your comment is irrelevant.
@@mavisdavidson9883 .. well the surgeries are not reversible are they? Delia Morris
@@mavisdavidson9883blocking puberty is not reversible either though, time is linear...
@@mavisdavidson9883ok groomer
Can we please have more clear thinking and rational MP's that actually stand up for what they believe, and aren't swayed by twitter.
When are the Doctors going to jail for this?
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
This reminds me of Josef Mengele 🙄
These people have done it to more people than that evil guy managed to, its global.
The whole cult reeks of fascism
Finally common sense sterilising children is a crime if they are truly trans when there 21 then maybe but alot of detrans stroys are heart breaking
NHS showing sense
NHS sense is an oxymoron.
The only sensible policy in a long time. Sadly SNP and Labour would reverse
They should have never done it to begin with. All you need to do is take a look at how much money these drugs, surgeries, and permanent drugs the person is on generate. There's your answer for why it's been allowed.
Cancer drugs for children without cancer
There are Stonewall, Mermaid, and Tavistock people that need to be at least removed from positions of influence and perhaps be subject to legal action although retrospective laws not feasible. We can at least release the father sent to jail for objecting.
A step in the right direction. But we need to make it illegal for minors for minors everywhere.
We've been giving puberty blockers to children with precocious puberty for well over 80 years all to no ill effect. Puberty blockers are not in any way harmful and are completely reversible. Only people who don't know about puberty blockers or don't understand them want them banned. You are anti science and are preventing children from getting the healthcare they need. Fool
It's unbelievable that this kind of child abuse was ever allowed in the first place
Nothing in unbelievable post march 2020
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
So NHS England is stopping this, not NHS Wales or NHS Scotland.
SHOCKING‼️
Wales is part of UK NHS? I think. Scotland is determined to be an outlier to the bitter end,. Is there money in it Scot govt. Does someone give you money? Delia Morris
@@nielszindel1151 NHS Wales is controlled by the Welsh Assembly.
Isn’t that abusing? You can’t help teens to ‘stop’ them growing.
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
Good
They need suing for literally using activist ideology rather than medical standards of care!
The fact that this is even a thing just shows how severely screwed up the world is now.
With this and the Finnish study, can we please stop this madness and the overall medicalization of children?
Dr Frankenstein will be gutted .
Absolutely the right thing to do, not going through puberty is very dangerous to our young adults.
After that when an fully grown adult if they wish to have surgery that’s up to them, but leave children alone till then.
About time the NHS took action to protect children against child abuse by far-left extremists. We need more money put into mental health.
In my day , we had God in society and were taught to respect and value our precious body and ourselves and others . Take away God like we have and this is the result ..
It has nothing to do with God.
Losing christian or any faith values has created this void. This weird new religion. Delia Morris
A couple of months ago, the Independent or Guardian (interchangeable nowadays) argued that puberty blockers were no more harmful than the pill. As a left-liberal it's sad to see how far the liberal press has fallen in this country.
Plenty of us on the left are essentially politically homeless now and rebranded as far right
The Pill not great either but it is just women and children eh? Delia Morris
Good
I like her more MPs like her please
This will upset the labour voters
You have no idea how many labour voters are actively fighting this pernicious nonsense. I've voted left for 35 years, I shan't again, and still know that no woman has a penis
Stupidity based instead of evidenced based medical malpractice!
Why has this taken so long, abusing kids for their own satisfaction.psrents should be jailed for this.
Nuremberg Code violation of section 6 article 3 , consent ,minors are not consenting adults .
I remember "A Very Peculiar Practice" sitcom in the 70s. The Tavvy was mentioned right back then as a nexus of woke gender malpractice.
This guy had no problem with experimenting on kids with MRNA
Media needs toplay a part in this also. They should not glamourise transitioning whyoh is a mental health problem and body dysmorphia its very dangerous and should not be encouraged.
It was child abuse, people doing this or advocating it should be jailed. Appalling
It's sick that this ever started. Kids aren't test monkeys!!!
I dk with public medicine but finding a private clinic to get a banned medication for a child should be illegal. It should be for the entire territory that found it prohibit. What is the point of NHS if they ban something if private doctors and prescribe that is straight dangerous.
This isn’t a “victory”. It is a return to sanity. No one who opposes gender ideology considers this a win because so many young people have seen their healthy bodies damaged
Watching my 92 year old wonderful mother-in-law suffer in terrible pain whilst her husband of 70 years watches her suffer is utterly awful. She desires to be freed of her suffering as she slowly dies of organ failure, it is utterly wrong and frankly inhumane that she has to suffer for who knows how long as she slowly dies. Her husband holds vigil for her each day as she dies. Without a specific diagnosis she has no support from health or social care.
We all watch her suffer.
Let those who object to ending life with compassion and dignity at the end of life watch their own loved ones suffer in such a way. They will change their minds.
What the absolute fk is your point?
You can't reverse aging .. in other words, if you give a child puberty blockers form the age of 10 to 16 (they normal age for boys going through puberty) and they then change their minds at 17, that means they now have to go through "puberty" between the ages of 17 and 23 ... how can that be normal?
Plus they have missed out on their youth (going through puberty normally at age 10)
It is barbaric .
This is bad news for trans children. Oh well perhaps they can see a shrink instead
Trans children are like vegan cats. Though Munchausen Syndrome by proxy is a thing.
Good.
How much will it save the nhs...
Eugenics
It is. Sterilising out Autism
I am cynical over the wording of this policy headline! “Banned except for research!” We’ve seen this before how, strangely, a great number of candidates are enrolled in the research programme! “Sorry! We can’t give your child puberty blockers! Unless of course you sign up to this research programme!”
Blockers are sometimes given to children that are going through precocious puberty. When those children reach their natural pubertal age, they’re taken off the blockers and continue their lives as per any normal child their age. Those children may suffer side effects from the blockers but it’s considered much better for children who are very young (often under 9) not to be having periods or have their voice break/growing a beard, amongst other consequences. A friend of mines children both had precocious puberty very young and although their mum was hesitant to to allow them to have blockers, it beat them going to primary school dealing with all those symptoms. Now they’re in their late teens they’ve experienced a natural puberty and are both doing well. That’s what they should be used for and only when absolutely necessary.
Not for restricting pubertal age children from going through what nature intended. That’s the sort of thing a p3do would find desirable. But then these Frankenstein’s know that all too well.
I'm looking forward to summer. I do love a good walk in the sun, or a makeshift picnic by a riverside. breathing in the fresh air and "touching grass". Any semblance of normality in the "current thing" world we live in. Got to love a bit of sanity.
Truth wins… finally!!!!
what, did common sense finally switch back on?
Good, most kids won't care, adults obsessed with rainbows will be upset, which tells you everything.
It's not about patient care or kindness. It's about population reduction and profit. Lower the birth rate and make the rich richer on the process. The pharmaceutical industry has a huge global influence on media and politics.
Assisted dieing has been successful in many countries.
Dying
Think of the lives ruined. All those administrators who advocated for it or prescribed it or administered it should be held accountable.
Good, it's time to stop pandering to this bullshit nonsense.
Great!
What about the ethics board for all these doctors that are or have prescribed this.
I was wonderin where the money was goin in the NHS and why cancer patients are havin to rely on charity's 🤔.
Bang your pots and pans now, the nhs is totally discredited and it’s done it to itself!
Headline is wrong.
It's NHS England.
The problem with these neverending efforts to cure homosexuality is that there's always some new version on the horizon. Joan Rivers had some ideas about why this latest version suddenly developed a cult-like interest.
Did Joan think they were trying to eradicate gays and lesbians? Make them versions of straight? Just leave us with the gays and lesbians thanks gender obsessives... Delia Morris
THANK GOODNESS
Good. Let kids be queer and love themselves not have surgery and drugs to fit in.
assuming that your also queer, i hope you realise that after theyve outlawed trans rights, theyre coming for you next.
Who ever was responsible for this in the first place should be done for child abuse
So giving children medicine that they request, for an illness that they have been diagnosed with, that decreases their risk of suicide and increases their quality of life... is abuse?
The fundamental principle, and this is not a religious argument, upon which the entire Western culture is based comes from the Bible - man is made in the image of God. Therefore, we all have an element of the sacred, it is a deep offense to God to destroy something he made in his image! If you dissolve the Judeo-Christian basis of our culture then why is every human life objectively and equally sacred. It becomes arbitrary and each life can be assessed individually in terms of degree of worth. This leads us at best to Greco-Roman idea of utility. Some lives are more valuable because they offer more to society than others. And with that goes the basis of equality before the law as well as sanctity of life.
If man is made in God's image, why don't we all look the same? Invoking silly religious ideas doesn't help your argument.
@@briancox9357 I'm guessing you think Lord of the Rings is an historical account.
Made in the image of something doesn't mean a carbon copy ffs. Nor does it mean physically the same. So if I say people in the US are all made the same - you think I literally mean they're all the same height etc. or just perhaps they have a similar nature and belief system. It is implicit, at least to any one with an IQ above 80, that it doesn't mean genetically and physically identical.
That out of the way I'm not making a religious argument as I said. What I'm saying is that if you throw out your cultural values then they'll be replaced by something else. If there is no "power above reproach" then there is no absolute moral code - including with regard to the value of human life. Nietzsche made this point over 150 years ago - he was hardly a religious diehard.
Whelp.
I’m done with this planet
Most people read it wrong. NHS is stopping prescribing puberty blockers. But how did it allowed prescribing puberty blockers in the first place? Is it a good or bad? Some people cannot understand !!
I just had to laugh, when they were saying “ how could the NHS give untested drugs to children?” Errr the latest pandemic jab? People you are being played with by most of the presenters on GB news
These medications have been used since the 70’s and will continue to be used. The medical efficacy for these medications have been established as is any other medication that features on the country’s authorised list. These are also used for children that abnormally enter puberty very early, some at age 5. This prevents for example a 5yo girl developing periods and breasts which would be mentally catastrophic for a young mind. So these children will still receive treatment, and rightly so.
What is actually being debated, is trans-affirming medical care as opposed to ‘untested medications’ being used on children. So the end result here, is prevent trans children from accessing medications that other cis-gendered children will still be able to access, and call that safe because ‘we don’t know enough about trans-affirming care from properly conducted medical studies’. That’s not best practice medicine unfortunately.
It should NEVER have been prescribed. Puberty blickers are NOT reversable!!!
as someone who struggled with physical identity as a younger person, this is good! what we need help with is self acceptance! self expression is great and important however we should not mess with an otherwise HEALTHY body.
Wow a sensible and articulate Tory MP. She probably needs to find a new party...!!
Anyone complicit with this scandal should be feeling very uncomfortable right now.
Why this was ever allowed is a mystery. I thought that the NHS was short of money, clearly not if they have money to burn. As for the Tavistock clinic, well polite words fail me so I had best shut up.
Should never have been prescribed in the first place. that's the fault of the wok brigade