LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Daybell Trial Days 15 and 16: Lies Exposed in Body Cam Footage
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The only bright spot- she did not get a single penny of her husbands life insurance. Makes me smile big- every time I hear it!!!
Yep. That had to have been a shock to her.
It was originally lori, then he changed it to Kay, then it got changed BACK to Lori and then BACK to Kay. I can’t help but feel Lori is the one who changed it back to herself and Charles caught it and changed it BACK.
@@kateashby3066 That's exactly what happened. Charles learned someone (Lori) had changed his password if memory serves.
She got Joe’s, unfortunately
Yep…has to share chads $30,000 pa😂
How great is it that Heather Daybell; the person who “has been a problem for CD his whole life” is the one that hammered that strong nail into his coffin. I watched Heather’s lengthy interview with HTC and I think she is of exemplary character. It is striking how much her testimony aligns with her interview. I would cry too if he moved into my neighborhood.
Such a pot stirrer! 😂❤
He moved near her so he could BENEFIT from her POWER and Prestige in the LDS. Nepotism. Here, I thought Chad was thr big-wig in the LDS. NOPE. He just wanted power and authority like heather.
I am glad the prosecution is finally objecting when Prior is testifying, leading the witness, or misstating the facts. It was getting on my nerves that they let him get away with that for so long.
And ticks off the judge by talking over both him & witnesses.
Thank God Charles switched his life insurance beneficiary!! He obviously knew how unhinged Lori was getting!! What a selfish horrible person she is.
Sadly though if they had gotten the money from Charles’ policy they might not have decided to kill the children 😢
Selfish. Little JJ was named Canaan. He was about nine months old when Lori decided to change his name. No one talks about how confusing that is to a baby who has been called one name for nine months. Especially a baby with known serious issues like Autism. Canaan doesn't snap and rhyme. It's messed up to do that to a baby. All ego. She sucks.
@@dukecity7688what a weird issue to pick on! No child should ever be called Canaan - not ever!
@@kelrogers8480 I get it. I own this. It's my issue. I know no one agrees with me. It's cool.
@@dukecity7688people dont have to agree with you for you to have an opinion. Its okay. I can see both sides. I don't even have an oppinion on that particular issue but I can see why someone would. You aren't wrong. I dont love his original name either- but Im not sure that I would have changed it when the poor thing was nearly a year old either!
I think it is awesome that there is so much interest in trials today. Cameras should be in all courtrooms. There should be full transparency always.
It should be required. Full transparency.
Granted. Exception would be cases involving children.
@@Katrina-qs2rl I don’t think that’s a valid exception at all. There are ways to protect the privacy of a victim. Transparency is vital. ESPECIALLY when it comes to cases involving children.
@@butterbeanqueen8148I agree. With children there should be even more accountability.
@@Katrina-qs2rlthis case involves children 😂, yet you’re following it 🤷🏻♀️
key points against Chad Daybell-
1-two dead children buried in his yard-the texts about the children- and turning the pain up...(texts wife about shooting and burying a raccoon the night of JJ's burial)
2) the children belonged to his new wife
3) the texts about the kids being dark and zombies
4)rating Tammy Dark and a zombie named "Viola"- the lies about the night she died to her friends-inconsistencies...
5) promises from chad to Lori that Tammy wasn't long to this world
6) the texts about his love for Lori and his plan for a life with her
7) getting married to the mother of the dead children 17 days after his wife died..
but the biggest take we have is this- THAT "BLESSING" TO ALEX". where he thanks Alex for everything... what did Alex do for he and Lori? hmmmmmm? well it wasn't bake them cookies.....
Dont forget. Chad told police he barely knrw lori, when that cop approached alex and chad, loading or unloading the car.
Respect for Heather.
Chad in the police car talking to his daughter said everything.
Wow Chad and Lori aren’t as smart as they think they are. The fact they left within 24 hours of this …speaks volumes. They knew she was married to Chad already.
Yup! When you look at their overall plan, they certainly weren’t the Masterminds they thoroughly believed they were! Actually, both of them are quite stupid & delusional, to say the least..These are the things that make go…Hmmm?!?
@@ginacimino4142They did better than most. They got away with stacking up 5 dead bodies and 2 attempted murders over a 5 month span without as much of a blink from LE or family members. These cops KNEW she was lying and they STILL didn’t insist Lori call MG on the spot in front of them to complete the welfare check. Instead, they let her get in touch with MG at her convenience. And that gave them time to flee to Hawaii and be together for another 4-6 weeks in paradise. It’s infuriating. 😡
@@Sin-D_ police can only do so much within the law.
I 100% believe that lori wanted JJ gone to punish Kay Woodcock.
JJ could have gone to live with Kay and Larry if she wanted to be free of him, but she chose to do the worst thing she could think of to K and L.
She was so angry about the life insurance that she unleashed her depravity on K and L, using JJ as a tool to cut as deep as she could.
JJ meant nothing to her, he was only useful to her to amplify and reflect her 'good mother' role in other people's eyes.
Sad but true.
I also wonder what went on behind closed doors, when her being a good and caring mother wasn't being noted by others, esp if JJ was non-verbal.
Did Tylee know and that's why she tried to care for him more than the norm would be for a sister?
I think when Lori found out she wasn’t getting the life insurance money , it really triggered her she was furious! That alone says a lot.
She is talking about her brother Adam trying to kill her. Girl, please!! He was trying to help sound the alarm! Not kill her or anyone.
She always has to be the ultimate victim in every situation. It wouldn't have been enough in her mind to say he was intruding on her life, no he had to be trying to kill her! Such a drama queen lol. What else do you expect from someone who believes they're a goddess lol.
Can you imagine how he felt
@@nonamepaintershe’s a histrionic, that’s why she smiled like a clown in court all the time (for the cameras), why she likely poisoned Tylee and made her sick all of those years (munchausen by proxy- just my opinion), why she pretending to be the perfect mom to disabled JJ when people were around… and so on. So she’s not just a drama queen- she takes it to dangerous levels. What I love is that her exaggerating and saying that her brother who was mad at her wanted to k!LL her only threw up a red flag for HER, because the way she mentioned it, like so matter of fact… very odd. She’s her own worst enemy.
But her mom,sister and niece believed every word. And Chads kids are still eating up his lies. Funny when she lies she drags her words and lowers her tone of voice then she giggles real softly. She's got this lieing down packed. Listen to her mom and nieces videos,they sound just like her.
People accuse others of what they themselves are doing
It’s creepy that Lori sounds like a 19 year old bratty gal. Meanwhile, she’s an almost 50 year-old woman. Creepy!
Her skelator hands in the pictures were also creepy goodness knows what horrific things they are guilty of towards her own children.
Sooo true
Narcissists have the emotional maturity of a child. I love how she lacks any self awareness and speaks about how her brother is trying to kill her as if that’s just a normal thing that happens in some families- she doesn’t realize it makes HER look bonkers. And apparently the cops picked up on that red flag too because they went all in after this convo
But Charles was ALSO telling the police how his wife was trying to kill him and the police thought he was Bonkers.
Dont get me wrong Lori is absolutely insufferable.
Most LD$ UT- ID females have the mormonValley girl talk! Or the indoctrinated Melanie Gibb lingo
Peter , he allowed the kiddos to be annihilated on his property then bury them on his property. If I were a jury with all the evidence and the relationship between c and l I’d vote guilty at this point
Lying for Lori is like breathing.
I don't understand how Chad's kids could still support him after seeing all this evidence & the fact that the kids were found in his yard. 🙄🤔
I think they’re in on it.
I think they been brainwashed their whole lifes
Heather Daybell is a force to be reckoned with. She saw the writing on the wall and, like Charles Vallow, her warnings were ignored.
Just like when Chad gaslit the woman who he first said the Lorie's daughter died. Later he tried to convince the woman he never said it. The woman stood up to him.
Mrs Gilbert was a bad ass
Yep and then we all got confirmation when Chad's own Mom repeated the same lie.
Great showing a relationship between Alex and Chad. That's going to be real big for the jury in my opinion.
That’s what I thought too!
I thought there was bodycam of Alex and Chad in a car?
The lies show consciousness of guilt. I wonder how they justify their lies in their own minds.
They always do (justify them). In reality their justifications are illogical, like k!lling JJ to protect him from Kay taking him away 🤦🏻♀️, but narcissists aren’t exactly known for being honest with themselves. They’re very delu$ional ppl.
I agree, both lying narcissists, only a narcissist can sit there with all this evidence against them and not give themselves up.
Chad thinks he’s a prophet of God, saying he and Lori are reincarnated beings who used to be past religious figures etc. They’re delusional narcissists that found each other and started living their fantasy of being God basically.
That is how longtime cons work, they just come up with a new story.
Heather’s testimony gave proof that Chud was promoting his beliefs and tried to groom people way before he even met Lori.
Mr Introvert🙄
The lies that came out of Lori's mouth when the police were at her apartment! Disgusting!
But the way she speaks how could they don't know ... and she had the money to rent flats how?
May justice prevail 👏🏻
This. 💯🙏
What about Melanie Boudreaux? She had to know a lot. She was living next door to Laurie.
Right?! Does she just walk away?!
Absolutely! Especially in the attempted murder of Brandon considering she would have been the only one that would benefit and even knew where he was..
I’m hoping she is next once they have dealt with Chad.
I think after Lori is found guilty in Arizona they will.
She is definitely guilty, I absolutely do not like her, Ian seems more innocent, but still culpable as well. Who, that isn't guilty completely changes their appearance too 😂
Chad texted Lori WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF HIM SOONER"when they found out Charles changed beneficiaries.
Omg! Seriously?? I didn’t get to watch the whole thing because I was at work!
Holy crap!! Did CD really text that? I’ve only recently started listening to this case.
I don't think that is true, because otherwise Chad would have been charged with conspiracy probably, to kill Charles. Is there a timestamp somewhere in the court proceedings?
I don't remember that. I know Chad asked when the beneficiary changed and wondered "if it changed after 2 bullets were put in his chest". Could he be more cold or calculated?
The most telling connection is that Chad was right there talking to Melanie G - right after this interaction with the police - and asking her to lie. I am sure the jury will get that
Does she say “she wanted us to adopt him, and we did, and we LOVED him”?!?! Wild that she’s spreading lies in past tense AND doesn’t sound “insane”.
You mean Lori....
True. That wan is gross. I forgot she said alex was chads friend [but she was married to chad].
Notice how when the officer asked if that’s the same Chad Daybell whose wife passed away recently, Lori stayed quiet??
That had to have freaked her the F out!!!
I’m sure she was 💩💩 her pants
Yeah BUSTED LOL
Yup.
14:25 When the cops are asking each other about tammy dying is the *only* time lori doesn't chime in. Not weird at all.
I think that's why they cleared out so soon after LE left.
I think that's why they cleared out so soon after LE left.
Prior always talking fast trying to catch the witness in some lie. That detective witness was so good. Sooo good!
I LOVED yesterday when judge B kept admonishing him and telling him to slow down. Prior is like me and has a very fast pace naturally, so to slow down he HAS to be mindful and think about speaking slower, and it’s a lot harder to trip up a witness if you’re micromanaging your cadence to appease the judge 😂.
His own Mom said she had questions about Loris kids and said he lied to her!! He talked about Tylee in past tense! When your own Mother thinks your guilty thats bad. He is done. One thing we all know now is Lori and Chad are liars, that is proven beyond a doubt. Innocent people dont lie!
The mom said Lori told her about her daughter not Chad. I felt the mom was trying to not say much about Chad
The mom said chad was a Virgin when he met Tammy and now he's met Well traveled Lori 😮
@@Haystack11 😂 I missed that !
This is why mom’s testimony was so important. His admission of knowing “daughter is dead”….very key to the conspiracy charges.
Innocent people dont have BODIES IN THE BACK YARD !
Chad Daybell had a dead wife in his bed with him and two dead kids buried on his property. That settles it for me.
Ya and so much more is coming to light at his trial
Having watched hidden jems I don’t think he was in bed with her….hence the ongoing stuff about the stairs
Its hard to refute
Boom
Or in a bed in her bedroom downstairs. Look at what the son who likely found her says, in interviews. He says went to his mothers room, not his parents room, and told his dad, "I think she's dead." So it seems close people knew after Tammy finding out about the affair he was having with Lori, she choose to be in a different bedroom. Hidden true crime has more info on this.
She is so nonchalant about her “horrible year!”
Yeh, it's been awful for *her* poor Lori 😮 🤨
she was giving a performance 💃
Only part she really thought was horrible is her not getting the life insurance money from Charles
I think she killed JJ to punish Kay
@@WaldenEmerson Agreed. She was enjoying performing and was giddy about it, thinking they believed her.
The Rexburg police has the voice recording on 11/25/19 when they approached Chad Daybell and Alex Cox. Where Chad says he’s only friends with Alex and doesn’t know Lori that well. So we know even Chad lied to police about being married already to Lori!!
Yes! And then they went to see Lori and she acts like she knows him because he’s friends with Alex when in fact she’s married to him. Yes she’s bad but Chad is too!
@@danabroich3643indeed it’s going to be hard to explain how Chad didn’t know where Tylee or especially JJ was at since he said to Melanie Gibb on 12/8/19 recorded conversation that Chad said to Melanie it’s better if you don’t know where the kids are at!! Or that Chad told the Gilbert’s that when the truth comes out all will be ok.
JOHN PRIOR in 2012 >
Faced with the possibility of a maximum 20-year prison sentence if he had been found guilty of felony battery for allegedly forcing himself on a woman in his law office conference room last year, an Idaho attorney has taken a mid-trial plea to misdemeanor battery.
John Prior, 50, will now face a maximum of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine when he is sentenced in November in the Canyon County case, according to the Idaho Statesman and KTVB.
Prior was indicted by a grand jury for felony battery with intent to commit rape after being accused of attacking a 20-year-old woman who said she came to his Nampa office seeking a job and advice on a child-custody case, the Statesman reports. Before the trial concluded Friday with Prior’s plea, his lawyer, Scott Fouser, told the jury during opening statements that Prior paid the woman, who was in dire straits financially, for sex. She then lied about the incident to her boyfriend, her family and police, Fouser said.
However, the woman testified before Prior took his plea that she refused when he offered her a job and help with the custody case in exchange for having sex with him, the Associated Press reported earlier.
The state attorney general’s office prosecuted the case.
I read about this in one of the Idaho news.
Eugh, what a low life
Yeah, he’s a scumbag. 😠
@idahardy ida Hardy from Idaho? 😂😂
Disgusting he was ALLOWED TO KEEP HIS LICENSE!!!
He was pinged as being home. There was a bonfire on his tiny property. HE is guilty.
That google search for wind direction was very incriminating.
“…my brother’s friend Chad” is as good a lie as the one Chad told the funeral home when he was pricing cremation. “My name is Chad. Uhhh, Chad DABAL.” Way to throw them off.
From Ida-- Iowa
daa-Bell was chads name calling about Charles cremation..Note cops at Lori well fair check pretended not to know Chad..husband..said..who Daa-Bell? Wife died? Question- did cop hear Daa-Bell mortuary call re: Charles???
There’s thing ironic phenomena that happens with narcissists. They are very delusional. They think they’re geniuses and everyone else is the dum dum, and they’re just really grandiose in general that it makes them feel that they’re invincible. So most of them are sloppy and stup!d criminals!! And this is a perfect example of that. This m0ron never paused to ask himself “what if this gets out, how would that look? He couldn’t even play it off like he was just doing Lori a favor because he felt the need to lie about his name, something you’d only do if you were up to no good. 🤦🏻♀️
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
His sister in law Heather also spoke how Chad was like this long before Lori came along. She was very damning to his case.
I think when Prior asked the officer about checking Melony Gibbs phone records, and the officer responded "not at this time", I think the officer meant not at the time he was talking to Lori, not "at this time" of the present. I could be wrong though. Also noticed how Prior gets so worked up, he starts speaking stupidly, yelling and testifying himself. He needs a chill pill.
Maybe taking pills already.
@user-mo5byb9u right! That's what I took the detective as saying! At that particular time they hadn't cold,but they were still investigating, just getting started good. Came back to talk to ld that day, knew they needed to do something drastic quick,as in detaining her and verifying with mg in front of ld but when they came back with warrants the next day apartments were abandoned along with possessions!
Yesssss.
He starts shouting, practically. Why did you not search gibb and david records, dude chill, we get it, you are trying to distract BUT yelling at witnesses aint gonna help your case.
As someone who knows the “other” brother, who couldn’t be a more average, normal, kind human, it is so gross to hear her claim he and Charles were trying to kill her for life insurance. The irony is real, but maybe that’s why the lies came so easily: when you know what you’re up to, it’s easy to project.
Yes but look at it this way- she sounded NUTS when she said that. Sure it’s POSSIBLE her own brother is hunting her (lmao), but more than likely she’s a looney, and that’s exactly what turned out to be true. Saying that only sent up red flags. But nooooo… Lori has to exaggerate to play victim for attention! 😂
@@kateashby3066 Lol well yeah, the ramblings of a grippy sock mentality make it hard to believe.
I think they also had Chads mother testify because she confirmed that Chad said Lori’s daughter had passed. So makes Pryor harder to claim that he believed she was being kept somewhere for her safety. He knew she was dead. Wasn’t news to him.
That was the primary reason they made her testify! It’s one thing if they tell one person that because maybe they’re mistaken but now it’s multiple ppl!
But even if they just find him guilty on conspiracy, he is done. Conspiracy to murder carries the same penalty as murder in Idaho.
Oh snap! I didn’t realize he was charged with the murd3rs AND conspiracy but you’re right! Sweet!
Thanks that’s interesting I’m from New Zealand 🇳🇿 so I have no idea of your laws.we don’t have the death penalty in our beautiful country 😊
But you don’t have a murderous toad who un-alives innocent children and faithful wives in your beautiful country, or I’m quite certain penalties would quickly change 😉
The strangest thing to me is Prior is trying to make out the police didn’t do their job properly, but the children were already dead by then, actually all the victims were dead by then so doesn’t matter if they acted immediately or later they couldn’t save anybody at that stage.
Prior did make a couple of points in my opinion. Could the officers have asked her to call Melanie Gibb? Even tho Melanie Gibb was cooperating they should have taken data from her phone because she was there the weekend JJ was killed. One less thing for prior to point out
@@SweetKarina123Lori told police they could TRY to call Melanie Gibbs but she's probably at the movie, Frozen 2, at that time.
@@1stDoNoHarm63 They should have ask Lori to call in front of them so it can be captured on body cam in my opinion. Again it’s just one less thing to leave untied. I think Prior keeps pushing Melanie Gibb because Chad told him she knew
Just leaking his anti govt...right wing stuff
The only people the Police could have saved were Tylee & JJ had the Gilbert, AZ cops investigated Lori & Alex's unsound story.
I will never understand how Lori and Chad believe they could kill 4 individuals and move to Hawaii, then live off the Social Security money and Tammy’s insurance money.
I’m sure they were looking for another dark person with a large insurance policy with Lori or Chad as the beneficiary.
Chad thought that he was God's chosen one.
They’re both sociopaths. They tend to be very delu$ional.
@@savetrump9120 he IS the STORM after all?
😂Exactly
See? Even when the cops ask Lori who was the other guy with your brother, she says, I was at the store, stalling to think of what to say imo
Rob Wood 💪💪💪💪
He killed the Re-Cross of Prior's Melanie Gibb questions!!
Loved the Judge getting onto Prior like a child today, too.😂😂👏
She gave out to much information when the cops went out there. Simple questions from the officers and then she goes on a rampage good job, shot herself in the foot. She was nervous and scared. In our favor!
The thing is, if melanie fibb and david are in this thicker than they've said, it doesn't matter , it doesn't change Chads role in this.
Exactly!
I bet she’s mad about the insurance money, she says it with so much emotion.
To me the biggest puzzle piece is the text chad sent to Tammy about burning brush and burying a raccoon. That’s what led them to finding the kids on his property. When I heard that in Lori’s trial, that’s all I needed to hear.
Chad checked the wind direction that day AND texted Tammy about shooting and burying a racoon in their pet cemetery and burning limbs before they got wet!
Gibb gave LE permission to look into her phone. They didn’t need a warrant.
I didn't know that.
If I was on the jury, I would vote against Pryor. He is not convincing. He’s rude and condescending.
Me too…I get that he has a job to do but seems like a bad idea to pair an unlikeable defendant with an unlikeable attorney. To me he comes across as snarky rather than just being zealous for his client. I’m sure that’s hard to pull off, but he should give it a try.
And he is a sex offender, trying to rape a 20 yr old in his office!
Glad the constitution of the United States means so much to you that you will act like a seventh grader.
I agree. Pryor is going so far overboard that I think it's actually so that Fat frog can't accuse him of insufficient council. Remember, he wanted to quit and the judge wouldn't let him.
Good point. Not only is Daybell trying to claim he had no idea dead bodies were buried on his property. But he supposedly buried a raccoon on his property that he had shot. What did he say about the burning of branches on his property ? Seriously IMO, they already have enough to convict him.
Her ability to lie so quickly is astonishing.
Also can you imagine being a grown woman and talking like that?
It’s her histrionic personality disorder. Just like Kim kardashian- speaking like they’re perpetually 12 years old. She’s also a histrionic.
Wonder in their quiet moments did they ever doubt what they were doing? I can’t fathom thinking this is ok
These detectives have proven to be very thorough and detailed. If they thought Melanie or David were involved they would've looked into them.
Yeah Alex is very protective of her = the coward was hiding upstairs & the cops could see his shadow moving around .
And cops DO NOT HAVE to record THEIR OPINIONS
This pair of sick individuals is like nails on a chalk board! Oh my Lord! It's sad that its after the fact, the loss of lives. 😢 Justice for the victims.
❤
I agree....and it's terribly sad too that the police didn't take more notice of Charles Vallow when he tried desperately to warn them about Lori before he was killed by Alex. Had they listened to him it may have saved his life and the lives of Tylee and JJ.
@@julesfromsydneyabsolutely 😢
@@julesfromsydney Agreed 💯 %
The moment they found out about Melanie G she started talking to them. She sat with police in AZ MULTIPLE TIMES and started throwing them all under the bus. She made a better witness than accomplice. She was able to fully breakdown all the crazy religious aspects also.
I just discovered your channel. I like how you explain different aspects of the legal process for us laypeople. Good job.
LYK gives us such a respectful look at these cases. Refreshing, huh?
She's proving that people who LIE talk too much, adding unnecessary details to bolster their stories.
Are you suggesting it’s weird that she shared her brother is trying to k!LL her for insurance money? 😂😂😂 (Jk that’s def weird!)
Absolutely! After having watched countless trials, one thing I've learned is that the guilty just can't keep from talking, offering too much unsolicited, irrelevant info in excruciating detail!🙄 A sure sign of guilt imo.
I absolutely loathe how Prior says "Okay" like a parent who's trying to find out where the 15 yo got the beer. UGH. He comes across as a pretentious a-hole.
When Prior says,”Okay” it sounds like a predator’s grooming voice.
She literally lies about everything. It's crazy. I think she's so mad about the insurance money.That is why she doesn't give Kay JJ.
You are right!
1000%. Narcissists HATE losing and no way she was gunna give Kay what she wanted after she lost one MILLION dollars to her.
Lori didn't want to lose the SSI $ JJ received thanks to having murdered her 4th husband, Charles Vallow.
Lets not forget she wouldn’t be able to get JJ’s Soc Sec monthly benefit if she let Kay take JJ. She had plans for that monthly income
Lori FLED with YOUR client Mr Prior 😂
I have worked for Child Protective Services in CA. They have sent me with wellness checks to find and look for and identify that child. Usually the police went with us.
Naw… the state asking if Davids or Mel’s kids were found in Chads backyard was the right question. If they would have asked what you think is the better question, “were David or Mel’s kids found in their own backyards,” then the State has to confirm if they ever actually checked David or Mel’s backyards and Prior can easily get the witness to say “no, we didn’t actually check their backyards,” and Prior can say, “so you don’t know if anyone is buried in David or Mel’s backyards…?” It leaves too much open. The State was correct on their question.
I didn’t realize the bodies were burned. Absolutely sickening.
Tylee was, not JJ. She was 2-3x bigger than him and I’m assuming that became an issue when they tried to get rid of any trace of her 😢
I think I read or heard in an interview that they de- zombied them based on their dark level. tylee was probably the bigger problem so she was darker and I think that's why they burned her and not JJ
They stored some of her body parts in the deep freezer wrapped up in butchers paper.
@@hippygypsy777Tylee was chopped to pieces, burned! I heard at one point JJ was drugged, wrapped in plastic and tape, and thought maybe he wasn't dead when wrapped and buried! Don't know if they proved that for sure. Maybe they did is why they said it. And I'm sure they killed Alex, and his blessing cd gave him over the phone was telling him it was time! And I think Zulema, his wife was in on it with ld and cd!! And I think melanie b knew a lot, and in on having her husband killed!
Everyone should watch the interview with Heather Daybell 3 hrs with Hidden true crime it’s good
If people would have listened to Heather Daybell and Adam Cox's warnings. 😢
@@nadinestewart2830not mention Charles her husband at the time begging cops for help with his deranged wife.
@@nadinestewart2830if people would have listened to Charles!! And I can't remember if Joseph Ryan's family tried to tell authorities after he died that something wasn't right!
The videos with Charles are heartbreaking. He was so desperate for help & was repeatedly ignored. Even his own death was ignored & treated like he didn't matter. Sadly, it took an attempted murder & 3 more deaths before the AZ police took his murder seriously. The police failed him on every level.
Prior asks the first cop, Lori seemed very convincing didnt she? The cops says no! Priors like okay......lol
Heather’s testimony showed Daybell’s beliefs were in place BEFORE he met Vallow or Gibb or Warwick. This undercuts Prior’s attempts to blame it all on Vallow & Cox.
Vallow has succeeded in life by lying. She thinks she’s smarter than anyone in the room.
I think Daybell searching for the wind direction on Sept 8 will be important during deliberations. It surely would be important to me if I was a juror.
Prior pointing to Gibb is soooo tiresome !!
Rob Wood did an excellent job of squelching Prior’s attempts to point to Gibb when Wood refers to the geo-fence and why LE chose to pursue more information for certain accounts.
Police DID call Daybell … just not this officer.
Nobody gave police the location of the kids. LE followed Alex’s phone pings to Chad’s backyard, within feet of where JJ was buried. Chad’s incredibly weird text about shooting raccoons and burning tree limbs was another hint.
Burning limbs
She thought she hit the jackpot with Chad and it turned out he was broke. 😂
Yes, and he thought she was going to have a million $. They both got duped.
@@sherryjoiner396haha!! Sweet sweet Justice but then in the arse… twice! (Well, let’s hope!)
Also, it doesn’t matter who else was involved- doesn’t matter if there were 10 other people involved- it does NOT eliminate the fact Chad was involved. Hence the reason for the charges of conspiracy.
She is furious over Charles million dollar insurance going to Kay.
Also to note- there is death around her w her husband mentioned -then mentioning All these family members trying to kill her BUT she never seeks help! To the cops at her door! Who could help! 🤦🏻♀️
She’s lied all her life.
And manipulated!
Yup that’s her thing
Monday will be fireworks for defense. Afternoon of day 16 was tough.
Heather was actually classified as dark during the time of all this other stuff was going on
I think Pryor attacking the cops is frankly pissing jurors off, for attacking the detective. They hadn't contacted Chad YET,
Melanie Gibb and Zulema Pastenis got Immunity because they agreed to testify against Lori and Chad, if they didn’t testify against them then they would also be charged in this case …
But not Melanie palowski? Hmmm
@@petuniab.222 Melanie P refused to testify against Chad and Lori, even though she was Subpoenaed but admitted to listening to and reading media reports on Lori’s trial last year so that she could not testify against her..
I don't think Melanie Gibb got immunity. I think she just wasn't involved except for lying to police that she had JJ. She finally wised up and realized that wasn't a good idea. She confronted Chad and Lori on the phone and recorded it. Who thinks their best friend is going to murder their kids? I think she was just naive and easily led.
Thanks for this! I missed the live, but I’m watching right after you finished. I appreciate your POV.
The defense isn’t casting any doubt in my mind by asking the investigator about Melanie (not investigating her)…because we already know JJ wasn’t located in her possession, he was located in CHAD’S yard!!! Chad is cooked and the defense is annoying.
Chad was the mastermind.
However, Chad is not the one shopping for wedding rings and wedding beachwear. I believe they were in on it together. Another thought that's been rolling around in my head would make you correct. Heather Daybell "mentioned" that a woman who seemed to be the "author dujour" at some point in time, accused Chad of s€×¿@l assault before all of this began. I have to wonder if other women had experienced this from Chad?
Yes he was and the other nut cases followed along needing a guru.
Thanks Peter and LYK peeps. Who thinks that Chad's children will lie on the stand for him? I do. Tammy deserved so much better. It bugs me that he said unkind things about her at her funeral! Would appreciate being able to read what her husband and children said about her.
When they brought up Chad she tried to change the subject but they wouldn't let her. That was so funny.
Chad‘s mom also testified that Chad said that Lori‘s daughter was dead
Totally agree.! How could Melanie Gibbs NOT be investigated as a co-conspirator??!!
Omg! This video was SO EASY TO LISTEN TO since the whole thing was not sped up! I’m so happy it was the same speed the whole time. You made my ADHD brain’s whole day🏆
Adhd here too (like 10-15% of the pop) and I concur. Altho it’s not nearly as bad as when Peter did it the first two days of trial when the audio sucked balls! 😂 since they fixed it it’s somewhat manageable but still too challenging to get anything out of it
Me reading comments while listening to this at 2x speed.. 😅
@@English3Muffin why do we do thisssssss🙀😳
@@kateashby3066 yeah between the sound, the accents, and the speed at the Read trial, I was so lost. lol
I can't even understand how these people thought they could have gotten away with these crimes! It really burns me when people use religion to justify their actions. I'm not LDS, (nor were they) but I hate the shame they've brought to this faith. I will never understand killing innocent children and spouses. This trial is a waste of time. He's so guilty.
What a great recap. It is so interesting to get a lawyers perspective on how good or bad the testimony was for that day. Great job.
Speaking of trials, I am forever shocked that the Joel Guy Jr. case and trial haven't been talked about or covered more. I live where Chad is from and yes it's a crazy case, but Joel had his mother's head cooking on the stove when the cops come in on their body cams. He put his parents in Walmart totes and was trying to liquidfy them which is also on the body cam. Then during the trial Joel nearly falls asleep out of boredom!!! Yall need to check it out.
It was covered on other true crime channels that I watch. But this type of channel tends to stick to trials that are currently in progress. That trial was at least a year or more ago.
But you are right, it was a sad & gruesome case about a spoiled POS entitled son who felt like his parents owed him all their money. Very tragic...
Thank you for not speeding up! ❤ And for your thorough and insightful comments
I do not like the speeding up audio, but I sure do love Peter Tragos ❤.
Why did they need all this money when the end of times was coming last year according to chubs dumbell
Good point. But there were going to be the leaders of the 144k chosen ones.😮
Chad told a neighbor loris only daughter was dead. Lori told chads mom, with chad sitting there, that her only daughter is dead..both before kids are found. Chad told the neighbor tylee didnt like him, when discussing chad telling her tylee had died and he denying he told her
I feel like I’m really learning so much about “scope” and being outside and inside of it in this particular trial than any others we’ve watched.
It will be interesting this week. Thank you so much for sharing. It helps me understand more about case and I’m learning so much about how things work in courts. Love your videos
❤ watching you. I am from eastern Idaho, I want Justice!,,,
Don’t tell any body. So high school! OMH!
Awesome Peter. Wow thanks for all of your insight. I discovered you in the Depp v. Heard case along with other attorney's. I love how you break trials down. ❤.
If you were the prosecuting attorney in this case, I would love to hear your closing arguments. I can just imagine you wrapping it all up in a pretty tidy package, putting a big bow on it, and presenting it to the jury. Praying justice for Tylee, JJ, Tammy, Charles and Brandon.
Yes, would love to hear what Peter would say. I would definitely give a brief summary about each witness, and tell again what the main points were that I wanted the jury to remember. I would show the autopsy photos, Chad's racoon text, his dark/light texts...so much more that I'm too tired to type.