How to Set Levels
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The simplest and most useful explanation of levels I’ve ever heard. Really well done.
Recording skilled professional studio musicians, I generally start with the peaks at -10, assuming the final loudest peak will be about -6. If the player/singer is less experienced in the studio, I add additional headroom buffer, starting at -15.
My second guideline is NOVERS which translates into no "overs" ever.
Thanks, Joe!
Assuming that's 24bit Audio. how much headroom for 16bit audio? I don't want the noise floor to become an issue
@@shueibdahir I would still stick with the -6 peaks because the biggest level error I could make is to go OVER and have a clipped signal.
@@michaelfarrow4648 Yessir. Also does the mic quality matter more than bitdepth?
@@shueibdahir Mic selection is very important and will potentially reduce the total amount of EQ needed in the mix stage. For example, my typical large orchestra recording will need almost no EQ during the mix -- 40 channels with a TOTAL EQ boost or cut of
-12 to -24 and you wont have any issues at all. -18 is the sweet spot. You can see in the mixer in S1 if you show the Inputs where you are hitting.
Ja, ja. Indeed, Joe. You are just great explaining things crystal clear. You've just got what it takes, man. Thanks a lot.
Thank you! Simple, concise and perfect!
This video was a breakthrough for me in understanding recording levels and why everything is red on my set-up for guitar'n at home lol. Thanks a million!
Recording at higher levels dates back to analog and early-digital days, when the noise floor was high enough that you needed to record as loud as possible to get a clear recording. These days even the room noise will likely be much louder than the noise floor, so it doesn't matter (as long as you don't have the gain set at a ridiculously low level).
And with gain you mean the pre amp gain?
@@JeffreywixAudio-gl9gm, yes.
@@sm5574 Thanks for answering, since you posted this a while ago :)
Thank you for this. Sometimes we need a refresher of just the fundamentals.
Joe thank you on how you teach, demonstrate and break down studio one per the subject at hand. You guys have brought me light years lol. Really appreciate it .
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Super helpful and clear. Exactly what I needed as I'm about to record a guitar track. It will be nothing close to what Jimi Hendrix did at his worst moment ever, but at least it won't clip!!!
Wow thank you! That was so simple yet explained a major problem!
Thank you for verifying my way of recording. I host house concerts and record them so the performer "s" can have a record of it. When I do the sound check I have them play the loudest song they will perform so I can get the gain set and I keep the speakers off and they always say " I can't hear anything" so I have to tell them I'll set the house mix once I get the gain adjusted.
Thanks man!!
I hadn't heard clipping explained like that. Very helpful!!!!
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Great, useful video. I think a lot of recording gain (overly aggressive) issues may be due to misunderstanding that the monitor gain can and should be considered separate from a properly set track recording gain. I like your strategy of starting at -18 DB or so, and just boosting the monitor level as necessary to give your performer what they need for real time response. Just a thought…
Exactly what I needed. Bookmarked. Simple concept, but essential!!
This was exactly what I was looking for as a musician learning to produce! Thank you!
I learned a heck of a lot from this tutorial. I've just started recording vocals. Thanks Joe.
I like how I can hear the change in audio when you adjust the gain...thanks for not trimming it, Joe.
Thank you very much for helping me understand clipping much more. It helped me so much more, so, I know how to combat my vocals getting ruined. You just earned a new subscriber.
Thank you so much for this, I will be sure to use this key information going forward! Honestly, such a needed video with a very well explained narrative. Thank you!
And don't forget to tell your viewers about the right click trick on the S1 channel meters to display either pre or post fader.
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Can I just say its so hard to find tutorials on studio one and you cover so much stuff on music production and as a beginner to intermediate your videos ahve been insanely helpful recently. You always have what im looking for and hse studio one so you can show me how to douu it in my DAW
im new to studio one. this was excatly what i needed to watch to correct my imput volume problems i was experiencing. awesome teaching! just subscribed.
Good Tip Joe.
Thank you Joe. Your explanation help newbie like me a lot.
The amount of times you do a sound check and you can literally hear the artist purposefully singing or rapping trying their hardest to perform quieter and as soon as we are on air they are performing magically twice as loud Lol
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Wow....so simply explained......thank you!!!
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Some people are still in the illusion that the higher the gain, the less noise is recorded. It used to be that you could tape a record, or any other media with a tape recorder and go to +6db, mostly with chome or metal tape. That's one. But with digital recording they drew the hard line at 0db. When i do my recording in my kitchen i only have a meter that shows me ttwo green volume lights, two orange and one red. Experience now has shown me i'm already messing up when the orange lights are lightning up. When i record it safe in the green zones, the signal to noise ratio remains the same when i record it on a so called "reloop tape" that has a USB stick connected to it and i can always gain it up in studio one
There are declipping pkugins, from what I have seen and they work really well too is love an overview of one
Thanks Joe, some great advice as always. I'm a novice at home recording but I really do enjoy it, and I am learning so much from you. Thank You!
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Joe! you are really awesome man. Your videos have been extremely helpful to me.
You are a real professional and an intellectual. God bless
One time I totally underestimated how loud the drummer was going to hit the kick drum during recording. To be fair he was hitting it 2-3 times as loud as during the sound check, but still.
I managed to get some dynamic feel back with some creative compression, but still, always remember that people will start playing way, way, waaaaay louder when they're feeling the music.
I learned that day.
Great some overview
Can you talk about noise floor when you record to low a level/gain and 32bit recording to advert clipping?
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Hi Joe, i would have guessed you have gained more hits for this episode. (shame) You have produced absoloute gold.... I never quite looked at it this way and you have opened my mind for better recordings right across the spectrum.. Thanks so very much dear
I used to think that Limiter, prevent my signal to clip.
I was wrong, boss ?
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hi master, it's not quite so easy to tune a preamp by this way without thinking about dynamic of instrument... i made this experience with my flute recording. nice day
Brilliant work!
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Love your videos, man - thanks for continuing these fundamentals!
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It’s been a long time since I’ve talked to you man but I see you’re still putting out good stuff as always.
So very useful ...wish I'd seen this when I first got my first (and only) DAW; Presonus studio one. Thanks Joe. Take the rest of the day off 🙂
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Hey Joe!
Thanks for all the great videos you post. They are so good and instructive and creative, a great inspiration for me. You are the best!!!
One thing I have wondered for a long time and which I have now finally come to ask.
When you zoom in on the video to pedagogically show different things in S1, I wonder if I can use that zoom when using Studio One?
I mean in addition to the zoom features in S1, assume it's a special program you have. What is the Zoom program ???
I have bad eyes, and I'm very grateful if you can tell me about it, your zoom program, or something like that :-)
Thanks and keep making your videos, they are so good.
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That's a very nice and helpful clip.
I respectfully mostly agree… BUT, if you are not recording at a higher bitrate than what is finally required (e.g. recording at 32 bit for a 24 bit final mix), being *that* conservative will kill your dynamics and/or your resolution. Yes, you can always make you pick higher, but there will be visible “steps” on the way up or down, as you would see aliasing on a zoomed image, if you see my analogy.
So… better less than more of course, paying attention to the first step before digitalisation will make the best out of your hardware and pipeline. My 2 cents.
So helpful as always - thanks Joe 🙏🏻
Thank u so much Bro.... This part is very2 important thing
If you continue like this, we will move everything to Studio One! :)
Joe, if you were to record hotter than 0dbFS, are you overloading the pre-amp (which is an analog device) or the A>D converter? Personally, I run my vocal mic into a Wendt X4 mixer and adjust the pre-amp gain by watching the VU meter. (yes, I'm old). Prior to recording, I can turn on the internal tone oscillator, which gives me a 0VU line level output (which equates to -20dbFS) which I plug into my Presonus AudioBox and then set that level to give me a -20 reading on the Studio One channel meter. Never the less, I have always taught my students that setting the pre-amp is THE most important gain stage setting. Basically, get the microvolts out of the mic up to roughly 1.23 volts so every stage of the electronics down steam run optimally. When recording, the fader on the mixer is essentially a switch. Set it at the nominal position (ie. don't touch it when you create the channel) and leave it there. Its designed to aid in mixing, not recording.
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Thanks for watching? Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for the information. Question, are you using a compressor before hitting the DAW for recording ?
You got a good trap song beginning with your “I’m clipping” line though 😂
I was hoping you would cover how to adjust the RMS settings in studio one.
Pls make a video about this ! Setting input gains vs digital gain !does digital gain make up introduce noise or is nust a unnecessary step?
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Thanks for this bro...you need to do a video on how to take out those hidden pops.
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True. Rich Bewaco gets so many crier subscriptions because they are happy that he is as sad as they are
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nice video thnx .. am new so thank u
Thx!
It’s so tempting to move that fader up and up and up during the recording 👹
Nice I need this get this right I appreciate it I have sin by making clipping music forgive me may I make music from here on out that’s not clipping I appreciate the lesson
U the best bro
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Thanks but I thought you were going to show some suggestions for static mix. Maybe you could do this sometime!
I have version 5. The gain knob is not visible by default. How do I make it visible?
What about making a song without unnecessary steps !it might think way in advance like all the processing and bounce once or fewer times ! What you think about this concept ?
What about set up levels for a guitar presets multieffects using a DAW? I've read check out peaks (-6 dBs max) and RMS (¿?)
I know this answer isn't all that helpful, but I've never bothered setting levels to a specific number. I set it to what sounds good, and isn't clipping.
Thanks, Mane, I can't believe that I have been doing this wrong for so long.
Excellent advice on setting levels. I have a question though. Your microphone plugged into a mixer, unlike mine which plugs into a audio interface. Before you even open the DAW, should you maximize input at the hardware level, avoiding clipping of course? And once that is done, then make adjustments at the DAW Software Level?
This video helped a lot , thank you. Is it the same when recording digitally with instruments?
I use my guitars and bass directly into my interface and set the gain so it stays green and does not clip when recording tracks. My setting is usually set at between 4 or 5 on the knob , and after I record, I turn the waves down to a better level afterward most times.
However, if I lower the gain too much, then I can not hear it with my ears, unfortunately.
Figured I'd ask so I could adjust my habits a bit.
Hi joe i remember learning stuff from your videos ! Why not minus 15 ? Or minus 18 ? For songs with multiple channels ?
If you have a moment, Help me out understanding this!
I have no knowledge in audio but very interested.
The gain was around -12db but you said your spoken volume was 54db. So am I right the gain is not volume the sound has a volume but the gain is signal?
Sorry to ask such a basic question I just not sure of the relationship and what floor is. Thanks
Hey Joe, good vid. I'm a studio one user and always learn from you, thanks. I have something I could use help with. I think I'm over-using de-essing. The tone is becoming uncomfortable. Any advice?
So the takeaway here is turn the faders down when recording? many tine si have recorded, and the original signal clips, but I found I can eliminate the clipping using compression or the Limiter, or using volume controls. But am I really getting rid of the clipping this way? This is for solo classical guitar.
Dam stupid manual that came with BR1600 said to turn up untill the red light flashes on off on the loudest bits.
Now back to looking for that bat. I'm not touching it tho.
Yes you can always turn it up but you definitely don't want to record something to quiet. Like recording a drum kit. You want the mic pres to shine and show their true colors. I try to set my preamp gain knobs as loud as possible while leaving enough head room for plugins/processing Etc. If I record them quietly the drums will sound poor and dull. No plugins will save that issue. Lol.
Helpful artifact(s) in recording that matters a lot
use the input section to more accurately monitor the signal
Newb question - what do you set the line level to in your operating system control panel? 100? 50?
Great vid Joe! The only thing is that when I turn the gain up I can hear my self better on the headphones. I know the recording will be clipped and then I turn the gain down...beautiful recording but I dont hear my voice anymore on the headphones volume that is max out. How do we come around this? Thanks, great channel!
Turn your headphone amp up! You don’t control your headphones from you input gain 😂
Yea turn up your headphones and turn down the music
@@queenpurple8433 I guess I need an headphones amp then...coz the headphones levels from the M AUDIO fast track ultra are really low...
@@Taffafilms what sort of headphones are you using? The impedance is probably too high.
@@officialWWM SuperLux HD668B
How did you get the Preamp gain option ? Ik things are different now since this was 2years ago bro .
Newbie question....I had in my mind that the DAW itself could increase the input gain as well as obviously the hardware pre amp gain. So a DAW doesn't effect the input but the output? Sorry for such a daft question !
Are you best off pulling down the fader on rec channel on daw to around 75percent n turning up preamp on usb interface UP abit to gain stage?
haha great tutorial, you are hilarious!