This is exactly why these fanfervice "relationships" are so toxic. Feelings get hurt, friendships and professional relationships get destroyed, even careers and for what? Cheap profits and smokescreen. Why can´t we just enjoy the dramas as they are without all this added fanservice stuff, I like to believe that the fans of the shows are grown up and mature enough to understand that actors are actors. It is such an unnecessary thing to pretend that their "relationship" carries on to real life just to sell some extra merchandise and content. We do not expect this kind of thing from western series, so why is it necessary in this case? Mew and Art is not the first, unfortunately not the last BL actor pair this happened to, maybe they were just the one of the most explosive and ugliest. This really need to stop.
I agree! fanservice is totally unnecessary, and i think the most of the actors feels uncomfortable to act like this off the set, just for public entertainment
AND FANS WHO SHIP THE ACTORS IRL PLEASEEE. I never ship actors. Like I LOVE DBK and I LOVE PeteKao but I dont ship TayNew ! They are good friends and I love seeing them hang out thats about it
I really hate fanservice and would enjoy behind the scenes and interviews way more if they just stopped making these actors uncomfortable. I cringe through most of the shows and fanmeetings, and usually I don't even try to watch them.
I think fans service is okay and can be endearing as long as you leave it up entirely the actors. They shouldn’t ever feel pressured, but basically it’s another form of acting/marketing. I know that in some situations it’s all the actors ideas to get more of a fan base following so they pitch what they are comfortable with. I feel like if actors enjoy it and choose to do it on their own, more power to you. That is all something that should be heavily worked out between the actors. I don’t see Bright/Win doing anything they don’t want to and they have one of the biggest followings. Hollywood has been doing this forever just in a different way in terms of tabloids/pr management.
I agree but this fan service thing is where bl actors in Thailand get money. They're not paid much in acting unfortunately. I also don't blame fans for shipping actors because the actors are the ones who give them hope.
So they were both young, childish, not calm enough , ended up hurting each other and fucked up their relationship. Both moved on and though harm was made & clearly cannot be redone or completely forgotten, i think they both learned from that and grew up, and we as outsider can just carry on with our life without spreading hate. I was clueless about this whole ‘drama’ so thank you so much for clearing things up, being unbiased in the process.
I love BL content but I never really understood fan service culture. I tried, trust me, but for me it just seems like a really messed up way to gather attention. Actors act, that's their job. They shouldn't have to be all over each other in interviews and events to promote their work or for us to believe in it. If it so happens that they get involved, great for them. But it shouldn't be implicit. I think this culture plays a part in this story as in so many others. Imagine how confusing it must be for everyone involved when there's so much expectation beyond the fiction. I don't want to be mean or anything but I've seen so many "ship" videos that are just pure cringe. Including Mew and Gulf. I'm all for fun game shows and interviews and in most cases when the cast genuinely gets along it's a pleasure to watch but I'd be fooling myself if I couldn't tell just how uncomfortable they look sometimes with having to pretend to be in a relationship. It's emotionally and mentally unhealthy.
I’m with you like sometimes I watch ship videos of bl actors just because I come across them and sometimes I watch live interviews were the host make them do some very weird stuff and when they do it it seems like most of the actors are uncomfortable and it just seems awkward like it’s fine for them to do fan service but it just gets to out of hand sometimes because the actors can catch feelings and it’s all good if both actors have the same feelings but when one doesn’t have feelings and the other does it can get to some real drama
Yeah I love bl dramas but this fanservice ..I mean u should keep a line between drama and real life ...At some point u dont even know whether its acting or real life ..I think well this things are messing up there personal life ..yeah You are big famous actor but u are human too u have got ur own ..So they should kearn how to keep the balance
Both of them, I think, were childish af, but like, art literally outed mew. You don't do that shit with someone working as a public figure, he should have had the opportunity to tell people himself.
whether you work as a public figure or not, outing anyone when they aren't ready to be open about it and taking away their right to choose whether to come out or not is so wrong. I'm not taking any sides, they both did dumb shit and I don't hate either of them but I do think Art outing Mew like that was really wrong.
Honestly I speak for myself, but I know that the reason I respect Mew is because he's grown and learned from his mistakes. And he displays that maturity on every live, work, event, etc. He's changed for the better. That's why I respect him and love him. They both hurt each other. I wish it hadn't gone down like that
I will write my perspective from someone who was here when all of this happened, but it’s going to be a really long comment so, first, what I want to say is: Leave this whole situation in the past. They both don’t talk about it anymore, and we shouldn’t as well. It’s over now, let’s respect their decisions and their new projects. Mew is working with Gulf now, TharnType season 1 has just finished and season 2 is coming, so let’s focus on this. The whole situation makes me so frustrated... They were both wrong, both acted childish. I think they both made a mistake on the same point, exposing too much without thinking. Mew shouldn’t have tweeted every time something happened, he is a public figure. Art shouldn’t have exposed Mew that way if they had already talked and made up things about that sleepover, mainly about Mew’s sexuality. About the kiss... I understand Mew. Art was always acting like he liked Mew back, it always seemed mutual! Even when Mew kissed him, Art let him do that. What would he think? Mew thought it was okay then. Art should have stopped Mew right there and said he didn’t feel the same, but he didn’t, he made Mew believe it was okay until days later Art spoke his mind and opened his heart to Mew, saying he wanted to be just a brother to him. It all could’ve ended at this point. But they both took it too far... Hearts are broken everyday, Mew would deal with that alone, but suddenly everyone knows about it and he was probably ashamed... About Mew’s jealousy... That’s wrong. He doesn’t have the right to stop Art from seeing any friends, they being in a relationship or not. I will NEVER accept that and say it was okay, that’s like, the first step to an abusive relationship. But I think that the major mistake they had was to expose this deep part of their lives. They forgot that, right now they are acting as a couple and have to give fanservice, but what about in the future? They can’t throw their careers away. Since they loved each other so much (at least that’s what they used to say) they should’ve thought about it. I’m so happy that Mew is having a great time with TharnType The Series now!!!! His relationship with Gulf seems really healthy and genuine, even if as friends. Their friendship is the cutest, they really care about each other. And I wish the best to Art! I hope he can have great projects in the future and live a very successful life, he deserves it! From the bottom of my heart, they both are amazing guys. They deserve nothing but the best. Mew and Art, you did great. I think we all go through some things that will make us grow and live a better life afterwards. Love, from someone who has being supporting you since What The Duck’s teaser was released. 💕
I really fell in love at how u talked about this controversial topic so positively Hands down for u sis 👏👏👏 This is the best way to report something without any biased statements
As someone who came in late to the game, I appreciate this video. There's a lot of information out there and your video seems unbiased and comprehensive, thank you 💕
I didn't know Art was getting hate now. Before, it was Mew who was dragged through the mud. I claim no knowledge of a fight between two people I don't know, but I'll give my two cents about something I'm quite familiar with: outing someone without their consent. Not only is it horrible when someone does it to me, a regular person, in a private setting, without any potential consequences to my private life and work, but to think of someone doing it A.to a person who is a celebrity, B.on the Internet for everyone to see, and C.fully knowing that it may end someone's career in an industry that depicts gay men but refuses to hire actual gay men for the roles... well, that horrifies me, to be honest. I can't say else about the situation itself and frankly, it's none of my business. It's just.. sad all around, and I hope it's forgotten at some point. No need in opening old wounds.
In my opinion, both actors were in the wrong. As a bisexual, I have a constant fear of being outed to my family. Art should not have outed Mew. Someone's sexuality is only for them and those *they* decide to share it with. That being said, Mew should have handled the situation so much better. If everything Art said is true, Mew seems kinda toxic? Maybe just childish? Tharntype was my first bl and when I saw everyone saying "I'm kinda afraid Mew will fall in love with Gulf like he did Art" I just thought "well what's the big deal? He's an adult". Only after watching this did I truly understand the consequences of what happened. It's unfortunate that everyone hates Art exclusively. Mew isn't as innocent as everyone is making him seem (that is if everything is true). Tharntype shippers shouldn't just jump on the Art hating bandwagon. It's not fair to Art. Yes, he did some bad things, but so did Mew. It's sad that their fight happened, especially bc of the way they handled it. Publicly fighting isn't a mature way of solving the problem. They both should've handled it in private, especially Mew. I appreciate you looking at both sides of the story and relaying information with little to no bias. Great video ❤
Wow at last... it’s an honor to meet someone like you.. ♥️ same thing happened to me I’ve found Art on comments and was curious. My Sherlock Holmes genes kicked in and I did some digging around. The more I learn about Art the more I started liking him. He loves social media. He’s doing lives almost everyday and it’s so fun to watch him even if I don’t understand a word. He puts his thoughts out there and answers the questions all the time. The live you see today is just an edited version. But you can read the translation of the whole thing. There he addressed lots of questions, it seems to me he didn’t mean to talk about lots of things during that live but the fans were under the delusion of them in a relationship, were hurt and angry so they kind of pressured Art for answers. The reason he was crying was not the kiss but fans attacked his friends and his adopted mom. They said many nasty stuff. So he just lost it there. He was 21 back then and might have wanted to defend those who he loved. He said “don’t pressure mew the same way you’re pushing me.” He said “I didn’t want to hurt his feelings so I kissed him back.” so no pointing fingers for assault. He didn’t say I don’t like him, he said “mew has someone so I feel it’s wrong.” I couldn’t find any reliable info about any confession either so the rejection didn’t happen like people like to fantasize as long as they don’t tell us themselves it’s rude to assume so. But the thing is after this incident they made up. They did a Tep interview together and in English too. So people taking sides and bashing the other are kind of ridiculous.
@cherry Lin ♥️ I know Art didn’t delete any of his tweets. He’s not the kind to do so. I’m a new fan too but if people are really curious to know what happened they can find it out. So in my opinion being new is not an excuse to their disgusting behavior. It’s totally unacceptable. Magnitude of hatred Art is receiving is kind of unusual, so I’m wondering just fans are behind this or any other party.?
@@wintersona4912 ♥️true that. I also managed to get that from their social media. I don’t know why but I feel so terrible someone going this far spreading rumors and hatred towards someone. One should always remember that single guy at the receiving end is also human. He feels too. And he means the world to someone out there. Just like you are to your family. I’ve said it few times but I’ll say it again and again, these haters are just bullies. And Thank you very much ♥️ sweetheart for standing up against bullying.. lots of love.. ♥️
At the end of the day, we don't know what really happened and it's best for us all to move on and support other actors which also includes Mew and Art, there is no need for any of us to take sides when we don't know the whole situation. Just support your favourite actors and let the past be the past. If you do chose to take sides it's okay, but that doesn't mean we bash the other actor. Please respect both of them even if you don't like one of them. Let bygones be bygones. Look in the future.
Art Pakpoom has a new upcoming BL series called "Secret Admirer". He is paired with someone named Boat. Let us wish Art success in his career and forget all the hate cuz it's not healthy.
Tbh most this situation when it was going on felt like we as fans shouldn’t be involved. Like Art and Mew hurt each other for sure and I can’t imagine that pain but- that’s a discussion they should have with each other or trusted love ones. The internet is a scary place my dudes especially if you’re famous
We’re all outsider. Let’s support them in their own paths. And what I noticed in this video is that taking care of each other is important. Public or Private matter.
Tbh I will be real...Art outing Mew when he clearly said that the situation was resolved was dead wrong on his part...Mew using his social platform for shading individuals does not sit well with me either...but when you think about it Mew would have been open to Art on how he felt before?? Not being bias towards Mew...even though I am a fan of Mew. 1.theory is we do not know what happened off screen...Art could have played with Mew's feelings and he could have known about how Mew felt. 2. theory is that Mew really liked Art but that rejection was not how he expected it to go. 3. Mew and Art could have been going out secretly under the pretext that its fanservice or brotherly love and Art wanted out or Mew possessiveness was too much and Art could not handle it. There are so many possibilities that could happen it is best we close that chapter and leave it. Honestly, I would be real again Actors in this genre (BL), should know what they are up against when they enter the industry. They should act wisely on their paths on making decisions and be rational.
I wanna say one thing, I'm totally on Mew's side. But also both of them were immature. Mew shouldn't have brought it to social media, and Art shouldn't have kept it going. If it was solved privately, why make it such a big deal. I think the reason Art got so much backlash is because he publicly outted someone, and he made all these claims without showing hardcore evidence. It was stupid of art and very impulsive, and I think if he had such a huge problem then he should've discussed it with Mew. He had to know the consequences of his hasty actions. The crying live video looked fake and if I was Mew, I'd feel really shitty. Cause he knew that if he hadn't brought it to social media, in the first place, it would've never gotten this bad.
About the kiss, mew already told fans that he kissed Art before Art even confessed in the crying video. Actually when i follow them back then, we already know about the kiss. No one argued or discussed (from what i read) about Art outed Mew. After Mew told fans about the kiss, they still look ok with each other. When art crying in the video, he actually feel frustrated because Mew told fans that he is lying about being sick. He shouldn’t make that video though. Because of the emotion that he had at the time, he revealed all the things that make him uncomfortable even though some of them have been solved. For me, both Art and Mew make silly mistakes. Mew actually just want to communicate with fans. But, when their relationship got rocky, things like that need to resolve in private.
You don't even know the whole. Mew was the first one who start shts on sns. As for outing, mew was doing a pretty good of that by himself. We knew he was not totally straight ,from his tweets,comments, interviews etc way before Art said Mew kissed him privately
@@BunnySaintV1 Well... Who would feel good tho... It the video I believed that he let mew kissed him... Then just say wanted to be brother after some time... He let him kissed him... If you don't want the kiss then just reject them on that day. No need to give hope ...
@@markgabrielmedrano702 and all the teasing from Art in the videos (a lot)... dude, other work partners didn't go that far... only kiss and hug and some lil touch :v
I hope people will stop judging them and let them move on.I dont blame either of them coz i dont know d full story and i wish Art's career will improve for d better too.
Shittu Zainab Omolola I really like your comment because even though it’s both mew and art fault. Art has received a lot of hate on how he doesn’t deserve to return to his acting career. So hopeful art has a comeback. And mew is successfully with tharntype. Wish both are successful and do well
From the perspective of a diehard MewGulf fan who only knew Mew since TharnType series, I have to say this. When I heard about his scandal with Art of course I did my research but I couldn't get any further in my judgement than this video. I don't know how their relationship was like off screen since I never saw a single live or interview they did together. So I'm hesitating whether I should form an opinion on this but I'll try regardless. Both of them were in the wrong by publicly handling their private affairs. I'm not taking sides here. I have no idea what Art is doing right now or how he processed all of this but we were able to witness how much Mew has matured since. He has been treating Gulf with a lot of respect since the beginning, you can see during fanmeets when they are asked to do fanservice Mew always asks for permission from Gulf before doing anything. Mew's hot temper has also been addressed in interviews and he seems to have acknowledged that it's something he needs to fix and Gulf is always there to help him fight his demons (and vice versa ofc). Their relationship seems so genuine and even though they sulk at each other they don't hold grudges and make up quickly. They changed each other for the better since they're together and anyone can see that they have a very special bond. So my point is, let's not cancel anyone because of their past mistakes because as you can see Mew has been given a second chance and proved that he learned his lessons. I hope Art has also learned from his mistakes and finds happiness and success just like Mew did. There's really no point in sending hate towards him after all this time, I'm sure they apologized to each other privately (since they still follow each other on ig) and moved on long time ago. Personally I find it an extremely fortunate situation that Mew achieved all this success after being outed cuz usually that's not the case. It's a bit ridiculous that BL actors cannot come out as gay because they wouldn't get major roles anymore. Being straight is still considered the norm but I hope it will change soon.
Exactly you said it all I really don’t want to enter this topic ...but what art did affected him more than mew tbh...tho they were immature about the whole thing and who knows if is true or not. Why people support mew because of how he his now with his behavior and attitude towards gulf as humans who won’t support mew? Anyways is all bygone(sometimes I actually thank what happened because what ever happened in the past made the future really sweet as he met gulf kanawut)
This is indeed the best comment here in this video. I'm also a MewGulf supporter, and I've seen how Mew grew. And big respect for those who have given him a chance to prove himself in BL industry. It opened for him to prove himself that he have changed, and they also received a lot of awards because of that series and it made their fans really proud.
I can understand why Mew tweeted about all this and therefor started it. He acted really childish about being rejected. I've been there too. I was hurt, so in my teenage brain the only logical thing was to post some shady things online. Of course as an adult, I regret it. But I was childish and he was really childish too. He was hurt and he lashed out, not the smartest decision. I think he understood that later and that's why he deleted all of his tweets, following up with another childish move, by changing his profil picture and changing his username. But he kind of understood, that making this all public was really not a good idea. And yes, he could (and maybe indeed did) hurt Art's career. But I think there is really no good excuse for outing someone against their will. Maybe Art also lashed out and wanted some kind of "revenge" for Mew making all of this public or he simply didn't use his brain in this moment. But making this such a big deal by bringing in his sexuality is really just a shitty move. And it seems like neither of them apologized for what they did. They both acted really childish and impulsive, which led to potentially hurting the other's career. In Mew's case, it only jumpstarted it, he found Gulf who really loves him (in whatever way) and Mew seems to have learned about this whole thing. As someone already said, he is very big on consent with Gulf and is very polite, but he also seems to be more careful about keeping personal things private. I don't know much about Art, because I simply don't follow him. Maybe his career took a hit from all this and he wasn't booked for any other series. Maybe he didn't want to act in BL Series anymore because of what happened with Mew. I just know that the majority of the MewGulf fandom hating Art for no reason, or simply because he was the "ew" of Mew and therefor a potential thread for MewGulf, is completely unfair and really disgusting. I don't know what happened exactly, I hate neither Art nor Mew. I'm happy that Mew is in such a good place right now and I hope Art is too.
Now this is what we call an unbiased informing video ladies and gents. I was personally so confused by the entire thing and couldn't grasp why people were so angry at Art but now I see how taking sides blindly can make you look like an idiot.
I didnt even knew what happened between them I got this video in my reccommmendations and I was like "something happened with them" so I watched this video being worried what happened
I think a good private conversation between the actors could have sorted this out in the beginning itself...Fanservices are also to blame because they want the actors to act in their respective roles, not just as actors. They want them to become a real couple even though the actors don't want to...Its good to appreciate their chemistry....but to do them off-screen will lead to misunderstandings and confusions. Why don't the fans understand this?
It's really hard for the actors for they might catch romantic feelings that are not mutual. Forcing actors to be a couple will torture them mentally and emotionally.
I agree. Things should have been handled privately. All the shady tweets and instagram lives seem very petty to me. They are both grown men and should have known that the things they said in their lives would negatively affect each other, or maybe they knew the consequences and did it anyways/on purpose. I'd rather believe that they just did not know how to deal with it better in the moment, because I like them both as actors and don't want to believe that they would try to ruin each other's careers. Also, I'm kind of leaning more to Art's side because I feel like he was forced into a corner. Also they both still follow each other on instagram? I don't know if that means much, but I believe they have left this matter in the past(even though I think it still affects art's career to this day) so let's also leave the hate in the past.
Updated: art join wabisabi (new siwaj's company) and continue his acting career. He still quite struggled with his past but he doing okay right now. He was a cast of seven project. And will have several project under wabisabi. This is heart breaking for me because every ppl that i know turn their back from art, while i still think some of accident that happen not fully his fault. But i couldn't talk openly about my opinion since im afraid ppl gonna hate me. But i hope you guys keep support art and mew.
i remember when this all went down in 2018. i was so worried about both of them and it made me realize how the fan service some actors are forced to do is so toxic. while this wasn’t all fan service, i think it is what lead to this conflict. i’m so happy for Mew and his career and hope the best for Art as well.
Don't worry. Now,Art has a new Bl series calls SecretAdmirerTheseries. Art is so happy with his partner who respect and know really he is for a long time before he met Mew. They are very cute together🥰 #Artpakpoom
Everyone defending mew just because they think Art outcoming him when mew already openly flirting with man? The real victim here is Art. I'm glad that Gulf seems like someone who can protect himself.
At first he gave up in acting and never tried any BL movie. It was leaving a bad shadow in him. I think all his friends and his fans helping him over this. Now he acting in BL movie again and look so cheerful and happy with his coworkers. Because he is beautiful people keeping mistakes his sexuality. In real life he manly and stronger than most his friends. I hope people respect his personal life more. For me he is really good young boy, no alcohol, no drug, no messy relationship.
I personally "adore" Art. I still do. In the series I feel his character is a troubled soul in a bad world. I have known more than one human who was like him. I really hope and pray that the "real-life" Art is doing well.
I watched that video already, the thing is both of them did wrong we all know that. After that video almost all people watched that video started to hate mew, people throw harsh and bad words to mew, and only few people keep supporting him that time. It is true that mew is started gaining his fame again because of ttts, but there are still people keep supporting him after that happened and I'm one of them. And Yeah, that time I am honestly disappointed at both of them but right now I am very proud of mew not just because of the ttts but because of mew moving on of what happened and stand on his own feet. He learned the lesson after what happened. That's why lot of people loves him. It is not easy to back to the industry with a big issue and no proper closure. It takes more courage to step on again. If we're him, I am still afraid to go back thinking there are still people keeps on opening the issue. Thats the why I keep supporting mew. I'm not saying that art can't still move on. And I hope he can now go back to the industry. And if that happened I wish he really learned the lesson. In that way he can be a better person. And have a proper closure. It may not be the same as they were back then at least they can speak to each other...
I just entered TharnType fandom in less than a week, and the drama is GREAT. However, I kept on being referenced to MewGulf, thus leading me into finding out about Mew's (and Gulf's) life dynamic. And honestly, having a history of a diehard Kpop pair shipper back in 2011, I would lie if I say MewGulf did not drive me insane and to cloud nine. However, I have been working branding and marketing strategy for a few years now. And I understand the dynamic of today's industry, in the social media era: do EVERYTHING that people buy, most importantly your target market. We know that Thai BL is mainly marketed to women. And scientifically proven, women love man x man trick; meaning bringing character to real life selling trick would actually works in generating sales. Now, I am not saying that we should not believe what we want to believe. MewGulf and MewArt maybe real (or at least, one was real). If it is indeed happening, good for them! I cherish them (and my fangirling soul can be complete and die at peace). But if not, no matter how "bad" either actors are in real life (hypothetically), they do not deserve to be played around, forced to do extreme relationship, and having their independence in private life and choices (e.g: for romantic partner preference) be completely stolen away from them, or micromanaged. Sadly, this has been done many time too, like for example, the alleged trick done in both High School Musical (Zac Efron - Vanesa Hudges) and Twilight series (Robert Pattison - Kristen Stewart). Human feelings are not for joke. No matter how much an actor/actress is paid, "given life" from their acting job, acting should remain as acting, not crossing into their private life.
This was a very well done synopsis of the issue. Thank you for making this video. I am one of those people who fell on Mew's side. I fell on Mew's side for a number of reasons but the point that Art tried to out Mew was number one. I appreciate you covering this topic specifically. It was dangerous move and it backfired on Art. Mew has a very good reputation for being a very professional actor and very well educated. That has always stuck with him. Mew is also a good role model for many Thai youth and people both in Thailand and abroad know this about him.
You rightly said that what Art said in the live are all claims, unproven. If true, outing Mew is the problem. If not true, manipulation of stories is the problem. Either way, there's a problem. Mew remained silent. I also think one of the reasons why fans were upset about Art was the difference between their attitudes. Mew remained silent and I think that is what professionals should do. Mew said in interviews several times that if he opens up his mouth and if what he says can hurt the others involved, he would rather remain silent. And he did. I also could not find Mew's live accusing Art for being late for schedules and I seriously doubt whether it exists. Some tweets from both of them were quite emotional and they both did wrong in that sense, yes, but I think Art went too far broadcasting their unconfirmed private issues, such sensitive issues. It could have been the end of their career, especially Mew's. I think people's taking side at that time was based on common sense, because what happened on the live victimises one side and makes the other side look very bad. Nobody knows how much truth was in there. I also personally felt offended when I found out that Mew was outed publicly like that and anyone with common sense knowledge knows that that is something that should have never happened. It seems that Art filmed a new series, though, a boy-girl series, which is good for him, and it will be broadcasted soon. So it seems that both of them found their ways regarding their career.
Oh mew i wish i didn't see this video... He turned out to be not easy as he looks...!!! And people are just mean hating on art... Don't judge something you don't know... Do u like feeling the same as art?
Exactly!! If art was a woman their reaction to this situation would have been different. Art is the one receiving all the hate and drags, his career was even put on pause while mew's went up.
Yeah....after I found the whole story, I couldn't take either of their sides. Mew did wrong, Art did wrong. It's unfortunate that Art got most of the hate. Like you said, I think this is mostly because a lot of people (new fans) weren't there when this all went down so they've just been hearing/seeing what other fans have been passing around and what they pass around are all one-sided. I've seen so many fans talk about the incident from Mew's side and villainizing Art. When you hear Art's side too, it becomes clear "taking sides" is pretty much bs. How can you even pick a side when they're both wrong, is what I'm saying. It's odd to pick a side knowing whoever you pick, still did the other dirty, in one way or another. It's better to just remain in the middle and unbiased. I hope both their careers go well, now or in the future, that's about it.
Jotaky Ininoo that hate is new because new fans are looking into the topic and are getting the wrong news. But as the situation was taking place Mew was hated on just like art is being hated on. People keep making this one sided and it was an issue where two people were wrong. But it’s in the past stop bringing it up. Mew is doing good and art is living his life stop bringing up this situation. It hurt the both of them and it was sad. Mew fell in love and did some things to art and art was uncomfortable rightfully so but they were both in the wrong
Not really,,, I'm already a fan of mewart back then....the thing is mew got most of the hate calling him pervert and etc. ....why I keep supporting him not just because of the ttts....but how brave he is to go back to the industry knowing there are still people who keeps on opening this issue...how he deals with those bash before.... How he learned his mistakes.... And the most of all accepting himself....it's not because of bias thing... The past can never be change anymore... The option that have is to settle or reconcile with each other and have a proper closure about this issue and move on and learned from their mistakes.. I hope art can now go back to the industry and can see him as a better person.
@@galendezregineangelaf.5353 No I meant like within the context of the incident you chose a side. Then that would be biased. BUT anything after doesn't relate so you can choose whoever you want to support. Such as supporting Mew over Art because of how he's able to deal with the bash and learn from mistakes. Valid point to choose him. But if you were to take a look at the incident and go "well Mew is more innocent because etc etc, I side with him" then you'd be biased within the context of the incident.
@@jotakyininoo2758 yeah you're right....that time I was so disappointed for both them. For being so unprofessional using social media platform in that way, for being insensitive of the feelings of other. But just like what I said. The past can never be change. We can only move forward . Hope for their best.
Thanks for making this video! It's nice to see someone talk about this issue without taking sides, or making it about ships. Really feel like the whole issue can be summed up as, *people make mistakes.* What's important is that they've both moved on from this experience, learned from it, and seem to be doing a lot better now. Wishing them both luck in any of their future pursuits!
I think the reason why many of MewArt fans sided with Mew on this is because they believed that there really was a romantic relationship between the pair. So when they discovered that it was a one-sided love, they decided to stay with the one who fell in love. It would seem like that this person shared the same pain as what was experienced by the fans during the whole fiasco.
I don't get why mewart shippers would hate on art i didn't hated him when i watched his live because i don't know what actually happened. Mew and art are the ones who knows what actually happened. Let's just support both of them and don't hate on art support him like how you support mew.
I have watched your video several times and also digging other videos. Art outing Mew was never a good thing but, my support goes to Art. After all, Mew got lucky because he was being offered a role in TT which further skyrocketing his stardom.
I’m doing well thanks! Also, make sure that you are taking care of yourself as well! Wow. I finished the video and really all I have to say is they were both wrong. Both displaying the situation online and Art just exposing Mew isn’t okay. As you said, it could have ruined both of their careers by a lot:/. I too am not on either side and the situation could have been handled WAY better.
Just take it as, back at that time, they were too new to the industry, being straightforward and crystal and immature. (however I still feel Art doing the Live on purpose for some reason and Mew really had and still has A LOT of haters) Now, they know they live under public's attention. But, I still thank Gulf for loving Mew (Phi nong) and accepting him as himself. Glad they met and being successful
Has anyone considered the possibility that this whole thing was a publicity stunt to garner interest in the show? I could conceive of the producers wanting to capitalize on the natural chemistry of these two actors with an extra story. Think of WTD and it's pretty WILD in terms of themes and intended shock value, such a stunt wouldn't be much of a stretch.
If it was a marketing stunt,mew has suffered because of it already, why bring up something that happened 2years ago now..haved watched this video before and could only see Art trying to pull the self pity game on fans.. Mew whether being gay or not,thats not the right way to go about things,..
It wasn’t a marketing stunt. Pree and Bo were suppose to reconcile at the end of WTD2 but with all the drama somethings had to be shuffled around and that was just cut out.
If it was really a publicity stunt for the show then it totally went south for one of them...I haven't watched what the duck yet but I thought Mewart weren't the main couple...if they were to pull a stunt like this wouldn't they do it with the main couple then again I haven't watched the series so I don't know just speculating...don't hate me Edit: if it really was a publicity stunt wouldn't Art have said something about it after what it did to his career...
I started watching BL series a few months ago someone recommended What the duck the series, me being curious Georgey I decided to do some research about the series, But all I saw was negative comments and so-called "fans" bashing art, Like I don't know why the fans would just hate someone without seeing the whole picture and the audacity they have for trying to interfere with other peoples privacies disgusts me, Now I may have not been there for the MewArt scandal but from all the information I've gotten, I Know both of the actors were in the wrong. And the fans shouldn't just send hate to One of the Actors ( none of them) Fans also shouldn't be biased, I feel like most of the time's fans are biased, it just turns into something worse than it actually is. ( please Stop sending Hate To Art, IDK what you gain from that but it's stupid and immature.
I was a fan of Art, but I sided on Mew's back then, only because I just knew the 'Art ousting Mew' instead of the whole, real situation of their conflict. Their real side of their fight. I was quite immature of their situation, which I hated myself for having that kind of attitude. As for now, we really don't know what really happened, and we should respect them, for we have no right to judge. I won't side on anyone yet. Anyways, I'm hoping new projects for Art. 💕
Thank you for making this video. As a fan of Mew's the only information I had previously been able to find on the subject was only focused on Art's mistakes. I appreciate you explaining the whole situation clearly and without bias. They both made mistakes and none of it should have happened. 💜
Thank you for making this video!! It's been hard to find any information on this situation and I didn't want to jump to any conclusions before knowing both sides!! That being said I want to give my two cents on the issue (while still remaining as unbiased as I can). I think there were a lot of wrongs done on both sides but what makes me specifically feel for Mew in this situation is how Art essentially outed him. As a gay guy who was outed in a scarily similar situation, I know how bad it feels. You're already upset from having your feelings rejected/not being given a clear answer and then to have your sexuality outed is another nail in the box. While, yes, Mew did "tarnish" Art's reputation by accusing him of faking being sick and not finishing work (in this case a vlog) and whether this is the reason Art hasn't been cast in another bl drama or something else, Art still essentially outed Mew. To god knows how many people, we have no idea if Mew was out in his private life and what Art did could've put Mew in danger. However, at the end of the day, what has happened has happened and I wish them both the best in their careers both off and on screen. Sorry I ended up rambling more than intended, this is a topic I'm really passionate about as its something I can directly relate to ;;
I'm new to dramas. And very new to bl dramas. I haven't watched What The Duck yet. But I really enjoyed Tharnttype very much. Mew and Gulf are great together. I'm sorry for the trouble in his past. Hopefully he learned from it. Keep person disagreements private. It's better for yourself and the other person.
Thank you for clearing this up for me because I joined the bl fandom when mewart was a really loved ship. But then I suddenly found out about the hate towards art and could not understand at all what happened (because I took a break from bl and did not follow the bl news per say) I agree with you that both of them were wrong in this case. It is unfair for only one of them to have suffered. From what we as outsiders know, it puts Art in a really bad light as if he did a lot of wrong. We really should not comment on anything related to their situation because we don't know the full story. Also it is sad how people are still not letting It go. I was watching Mew's live once when TharnType was still airing and it made me sick to see how people were still asking him about Art. People need to let it go. For real!
Great job! I was "here" when the whole thing happened, and I can confirm 99% of these infos, except the part about Mew not receiving much hate, which is actually not correct. Bro recieves so much hate until this day it's unbelievable, even the things he works on (Tharntype) get a lot of hate, but so does Art! Anyway, I totally agree with you, they were both wrong and really immature, both attitudes were inconsequential and could have ruined ones reputation and career. Although I think outing Mew was probably more serious, I think Art was really scared, you know, and impulsive because of fear and confusion, we were not in any of their places and have no right to judge that kind of thing. So yes, they were both wrong, but it's been a long time dude, enough with the hate of both of them, you know...people need to learn to LET GO.
Martina Art didn't scared. He said at that time Mew already seeing someone (Art known something happened when Mew went to Japan with someone and after that, M/A fight a lot) he think it's wrong and he doesn't want to be a third person. He tried to ask Mew but unclear that's why he decided to separated with Mew and keep status only brothers. That he cried not because he was sad that Mew kissed him. But because Mew broke his trust Mew chose to lie, Aggressive and some fans attack Art. Actually, At first time Art didn't want to say anything because he knew it didn't good for both sides, but Art Fan told him to come out to protect himself because Some fans who don't understand speak badly to Art frinds/Art family and also accused him of drug addiction so he came out to explain. He never out Mew. I don't exactly know why people still say Art outed Mew. About the kiss. Art said because of fans asked him in the comments live Why does Art not sleep with Mew (Art went to Mew condo because he had to shoot a vlog with Mew), Art said at that time, Mew kissed him. he didn't refuse because he was shocked, he didn't know what to do and he doesn't want to make Mew become angry. He therefore rushed out of the condo, going back to his thoughts and telling Mew that he is not okay with what happened. Mew shouldn't cross the brother line. I don't really know why Mew did that maybe he loves Art too much and doesn't let Art goes. On Art's clip lived ,he also tells everyone to stop attacking Mew and people around Art . And don't ask about that person to Mew. If Mew will tell, let Mew tell himself. If everyone curses, come and scold only Art. He is willing to accept hatred alone. The bad thing is His published clip was cut. Actually, Art's clip explains everything that fans suspect for almost 43 minutes, but the current clip has only 12 minutes.
I wanna say there were some vids of Arts friends/peers confirming that Mew did tell them not to get close to Art over dms. But again it’s a he said she said kinda thing but who knows.
I really wish they had discussed this privately. I had been avoiding this video like a plague because I didn't want to bring back bad memories. When WTD teasers came out, I remember being so excited about MewArt. Their chemistry was amazing and everything. I didn't really like the series as it progressed tho. WTD has potential but yikes did it go downhill. I didn't even watch the 2nd season. But that's besides the point. I really liked MewArt together and then this drama happened and I was shook. I know people still hate Art for exposing everything on the live, but honestly Mew was the one who went public with it first. As much as I love Mew, he was being immature then. So I really never side with anyone on this drama. I just feel bad that Art's career got ruined.
Mew has always been the one that caught my eye ever since WTD, and I was also their shipper prior to this bitter drama... I always thought this personal misunderstanding could have resolved between them and not bring up in the public eyes... However I don't despise art for whatever reason...actually I feel so bad for mew since his career could have ended before starting it off. . I don't know about other fans but I have always supported him back then and now.. So m very happy for what he have achieved after TTTs... Every good things come to you in its own time so it's mew's time to shine after getting passed thrrough the phase of hatred and badmouthing!!!!
For me it’s very rocking, there are so less following but now he finally back again in other BL oh god please this time art find everything okay and he deserve what an acting in what the duck still these day many actors not comfortable to play that challenging role but he did.
Wait damn....this is a lot more detailed so thanks for doing this! All I was able to hear abt the situation before this was that mew liked art and then art outed him so everyone disliked art.....guess it goes to show you how distorted ppl make the situation
Saanvixx actually a lot of people disliked Mew too. Both of them got a lot of hate for it. I think both of them still do to this day. But they are some people who pretty much worship Mew and hate on Art without actually knowing what happened.
My takeaway from all this, (having no real idea what the whole story was before I watched this even though I watched What the Duck almost a year ago) is it's probably in everyone's best interest to keep your private life private. I also very much disagree with fan service, I'm way older than the typical BL fan but personally I think the actors should separate themselves from the characters after a show completes. Yes, go out and do promotions but the games they play and the overly personal questions some of the interviewers ask are way over the top. Sure they gain fans through fanservice but what does it serve, you get ship wars and crazy fans who refuse to watch their favorite couple "splitting up" to do a new BL with a different "partner". I'm sorry about what happened to Mew and Art, it sounds like a serious lack of communication with each other that one or two heart to hearts could have cleared up, no need to drag the public into it. I still like Mew, I still like Art and it looks like lesson learned with Mew at least.
I totally like how this video was made. The timeline is really good. Honestly, I'm not a fan of art nor a hater, but i want to thank the maker of this video for giving me a glimpse of art's side. "No one knows what exactly happened between the 2" such wise words. Again thank you 😁
I think part of the problem is these guys were still reasonably young when this happened. You don’t always think about the backlash of the things you do in the heat of the moment in a fight, especially when you’re younger. Social media just exacerbated the problem. People get so used to posting everything about their lives, they forget some of it needs to be held back.
Don't worry. Now, Art has a new Bl series calls Secret Admirer The series. There's gonna film in this year. Art is so happy with his partner who respect and knows really he is for long time before he met Mew☺️ they are very cute together. #Artpakpoom #secretadmirertheseries
I enjoyed hearing your comments and the way you speak English is beautiful and also the way you analysed the whole situation its so easy to understand and makes me want to follow all your future analysis. Good job ... keep it up! :)
Both were in the wrong. I think since that happened, they have both learned from it. (I can't speak for Art since I don't know much about him) but Mew has been honest and admitted his faults, Gulf is aware of these faults, he probably knows of the past (who knows if he has both perspectives) and Mew seems to be happier. Reading the comments on this video, it seems that Mew is still getting bashed for being outed. If he is confused or sure but not ready to come out, Art should not have done that. It wasn't something he should have done. All I can say, is that when people have their feelings hurt they tend to lash out and make foolish mistakes/decisions. It's up to them to learn from these decisions and to ultimately grow/learn from it. Like I said, Mew seems to have taken that to heart, I've heard he always asks Gulf first before touching him. I wish Art has also learned from this and has found some happiness as well. I think, as fans, we should take a step back and realize that these are human beings with real feelings. We only ever get what they show us, be it fan service or whatever. The only thing in this situation that shouldn't be forgiven is Art outing Mew. That was not kosher and as you've said, could have ruined Mew's career. (I feel like I've read something about how BL directors only hire straight actors and that bi or gay actors getting roles is rare). Thank you for this video, it really helps clear some things up.
I agree with you about Art outing Mew. No matter how hurt you just dont say smt that can destroy smb. It would have just remained an immature fight and long forgotten
Yes I agreed that at the end of the day nobody knows what truly happened between mew and art. Don't feel biased because of what you only known,heard not everything on the Internet was right accept the fact that sometimes we really can't depend on social media. Stop throwing some hate to them and think carefully and watch words your throwing because in that simple act it can lead to make a huge damage so please be careful. they're already hurt so much by their own actions so I hope that everyone who was ruining their lives should stop. I hope this video will help others to think carefully.
I agree to the point where you said they both did wronged to each other Neither mew and nor art take this issue privately but Instead they use social media and this affects both of them tremendously I'm not anyone's side here And I don't understand how can people hate on just one person where this is duality in between seriously I don't hate anyone here in fact you know misunderstanding happens they work together and if something has gone wrong it's natural but going on and bashing them spreading negativity it's not Good and don't go on judging them if you don't know what really happened
From the perspective of supporting Mew, they may also support Mewart ship.So they seen the kiss as Mew want to build the relationship with Art, but Art ruined the chance of real BL couple. And the most important thing is that ,if Art do not want Mew to kiss him, he should reject him at that sleepover but not days later, as it give a sense to Mew that Art received his love. This may the most critical thing that Fans supporting Mew but not Art. But on the other hand, as a straight, Art do not love male, the feeling and experience of Mew’s real kiss may make him feel scared or uncomfortable.
Here are my two cents on this entire situation. So, I came to know about MewxArt brawl through this video - I have watched "What the Duck" but I wasn't impressed on the cinematography so I didn't follow activities around it. So, starting with making a personal difference public is extremely dangerous because then you will have to risk revealing everything to your audience. If the onscreen couple had some problems behind the scenes, resolving those issues off the internet would have been a wise alternative. My thoughts on Art getting more hate than Mew directs straight to the concept of the series. Where Art's character was unfaithful to Mew's character so there is a possibility that the fans' emotions got mixed up from reel to real and sent more hate on Art's way. It's sad if your character role-play has any flaw or straight up negative, the audience tends to perceive you in similar fashion in real life too. I have seen interviews of so many actors usually playing a vamp or villain being thrashed in public for a minimum to no reason at all but they are the sweetest ones you will ever come across. I feel whatever Mew and Art had between them should have remained behind closed curtains until they were absolutely sure to reveal it themselves. Even if they came out to be a real couple, I would just be equally happy. I hope the negative impact Art had from this backlash fades soon and he gets more roles because MEW-ART ship couldn't have been a hit if Art didn't work properly at all. He made us believe through his acting so he is a good actor,
Honestly I feel like this entire thing could’ve been avoided if Art would just shut Mews shit down. Don’t let him do it then days after confront him about it. Right there in that hotel room, in that moment he should’ve said “Hey! No! We just friends plug! Nothing more!” Them being angry at each other to the point of ruining careers wasn’t needed. Love em both stills but all that drama could’ve been avoided.
Hazell WilliamSpencer Or maybe when you notice your friend is in love with you instead of leading them on for the sake of your career you reject them privately and move on with it? I’m not saying Mew was right in kissing Art without his consent but the way these two were was beyond the scope of fan service and they both knew it, so one of them thought their feelings were reciprocated and the other turned another cheek instead of admitting there were no feelings there. And then he got kissed and realized maybe this went too far.
Hazell WilliamSpencer First of this ain’t that deep for you to start cursing at me. Also yeah they both knew it was fanservice and it was helping their careers but they were both also fairly new to the industry. Fanservice was new to them and it’s fairly easy to fall in love or develop feelings for someone when you spend every day pretending to do so. Art knew Mew liked him romantically(he acknowledged it in his live), but instead of rejecting Mew, he let it keep going on because he was afraid of ruining their relationship therefore the ship and maybe their career. WTD wasn’t a great show and it was their fanservice as you said that made them and the show popular. So even though for Mew it was no longer about boosting their career for Art it was but Mew didn’t know that and that’s why I said Art led him on because that’s what he did, unintentionally then intentionally. Like someone below me said all this could’ve been avoided if Art had just been upfront with Mew. I’m not saying it’s all on Art it takes two to tango. They were both at fault but your first comment was just about Mew that’s why I made the one about Art. It was the both of them that caused the situation.
Tae's Wife i agree with you wholeheartedly. Even the fact that he was crying and so emotional in his live video is sending the wrong message that his emotions were involved more than he is saying. I totally don’t think there was sexual harassment here. How many guys ask before they kiss you? They go by your interactions with them to determine whether the feelings are mutual. Even if they aren’t mutual, when they try to kiss you, you tell them no and that you’re sorry if there was a misunderstanding and that’s that.
I'm also a big fan of Mew, but that does not mean that what he did was ok. I can only imagine and understand (to a certain extent) of how he must've felt throughout the fight with Art, he probably would have felt very hurt but also anger, frustration and sadness. All those things I can also imagine for Art as well. Before I watched this video, when I was just starting to watch many Thai BL dramas (and still watch so many lmao) I had briefly heard of this fight between Mew and Art and at first I was on Mews side because the live that Art did (when he was 'outing' Mew) my reaction was similar to disappointment. I felt sorry for Mew but also for Art as well. If Mew did kiss him (coz us as the audience/fans we will never know the Full truth and All the details of the that particular situation b/w the actors) and Art didn't like it or was against it from the very beginning why didn't he say something (when it was happening)? Why didn't he push Mew off or showed rejection to him in that moment? I can understand that maybe Art may have been shocked, scared even (I'm probably using the wrong description, but those kind of feelings) and probably didn't know how to handle those kind of situations or What to do in those kind of situations. Either way, maybe what Mew did was wrong. However, after watching his video and hearing/seeing what Mew was tweeting from the beginning, I do feel that both Mew and Art should have handled the fight in private and I find it a little disappointing with the way that it was handled because it would've made a huge impact on not just their personal lives but their careers. I find it very heartbreaking that Art was getting all the blame, when really both Mew and Art were in the wrong. Whether it may be because of the pressure of fan service from fans (generally speaking) or just the matter of personal feelings itself, their fight would have taken a toll on both their careers and personal lives. Both of them were in the wrong but both Don't deserve such hate that mainly Art is receiving, they both deserve happiness in their personal lives and also a successful career. And I hope that both Mew and Art will find those things because they both deserve such great things. What has happened occurred in the past, I'm sure both Mew and Art have both moved on from this and the public should too. We should be supporting both Art and Mew in future projects and wish them the best happiness and health. Love them both xoxox and Thank you for this video!!!! This would have definitely broaden some of the fans eyes, including mine xoxo
Thank you for putting all this information into one video :) I was wondering what some people were referring to and when I looked up what happened, I just got extremely biased information from both sides: hating Art, hating Mew, exaggerating and underplaying what happened. Great video :)
I like how you described about the whole situation being stable and balanced,both of them are wrong but the ironic is one has got highly acclaimed and the other destroyed his career.
Thank you so much for making this video. Specially not for taking a part from one of the two actors. Its their private life. I still love both of them ❤️
I appreciate how clear this explanation was because until this day I still had no idea what went down between them. But I think the reason why no one seemed to be taking Art's side was because he way he tried to defend himself was through outing Mew and more or less slandering him with things that he couldn't even show proof of. So i guess people took his approach negatively. But Mew isn't less guilty. The dude was just too open about what was going on between them to the point that Art felt like he was being cornered. His posts seemed too pushy but i guess that's just me. and from what I gather about Mew, he's really strict about work and has a short temper. I think he over-reacted when he went on to publicly state how Art had been late to filming. But then again, that is no reason for Art to just expose Mew like that. I guess this could've been avoided if they just sorted it out amongst themselves. It's just sad because Art also had promising talent. :(
I agree that this situation was messy all around and as much as I love mew, it’s clear (he even admitted) he has quite a temper on him. Both Mew and art "outed" and were "outed" in different ways - in Mew’s case his sexuality and in Art’s his "professionalism" so to say. One thing I'm still confused about is why Art would bring up the kiss/drama with friends and out Mew when it had nothing to do with the situation at hand/what he was accused of. What was the reason of mentioning that part? Only thing I could come up with it is that maybe art felt like he needed something against Mew to "fight" back/counter with. Also, people seem to forget that they both had barely any experience in show business and I’ve a feeling they still hadn't figured out how to manage their fame responsibly at the time. They were too open and honest, just like we normal ppl would get messy, vent and put our private business on our Twitter sometimes. But venting on a tl when hundreds of uninformed fans/public is involved is a clear recipe for disaster. Like art said in his livd fans we're starting to attack him so he felt like he had to defend himself and so he sadly aired all their dirty laundry, but in turn Mew couldn't/didn’t dismiss any of those rumours made. For mew, prior to tharntype, there was a solo interview with TEP where he vaguely talks about this and it clear he regrets what went down and he seems quite self-reflected. Since then, we and art started following each other again and it feels like they both agreed to forgive and forget and move on.
Yes. And I think they didn't know how to deal with BL fan service... it can be confusing to a newcomer. But Mew never fought back. He decided to stay silent after Art's video. I think that both were very immature in how they handled the situation and all those twitter comments, very immature. However, Mew took the mature route afterwards by not fighting back and staying silent and not bashing Art. I didn't know he followed Art again after the TEP interview but they both seem to have moved on and be in a better place now.
Oh that's another thing I picked up with Mew he appears to be a bit conteolliñ/possessive and I think it manifested a lot WITH Art in contrast with Gulf as Mew has grown and matured a bit he's less angry and more "sulky". I hope that means he has truly grown and deals with his anger issues
Ramona Flowers I feel like he learned from the situation (that almost cost him his and art’s career) and that unreflected/ emotional decisions will only end in disaster. From things he says now, it seems he has grown a lot. He’s more responsible and much more private than he used to. He also appears to set up more boundaries, stay professional/business only. All round he just seems more mature.
@@ramonaflowers2813 I think that Mew's possessiveness might also be because his feelings were probably not corresponded by Art, and he was immature enough to step back. Instead he'd express possessiveness trying to hold Art at all costs. Plus on a TEP interview he said he was cheated on most of his relationships. But now as you say, with Gulf he seems to have matured a lot and I think that some of his sulkiness/possessiveness towards Gulf now is playful for the fans and not true possessiveness. Also him and Gulf seem to have a totally different relationship than what he had with Art, better dialogue and mutual love (whatever kind that is) and respect. They're on the same page.
I remember Art saying something about fans getting to his "mother", so I think that was the last straw that just escalated into this uncontrollable rant. Plus people started attacking him, so I think he felt the need to bring out the ammo
I agree absolutely with everything. We don't really know anything, especially since we only knew Art pov, but at that time (and even know) I was also so shocked to see all the people defending Mew as if he did nothing wrong at all... I myself have this thing where I tend to always take first the "victim" side, in this case, I was (am) a Mew fan but even being one I chose to trust Art's testimony first... After it all cleared up a bit, judging by what we can only guess happened, I could see what they both did wrong, and now I agree with everything you said. But yeah, it shocked me to see since the very very begging people calling Art a 'liar that only wanted fame' and stuff like that...
THANK YOU for this video...It's painful how some sick people just jump into conclusion without finding out what really happened. These days I'm tired of fighting. Lord knows Art didn't and still doesn't deserve this kind of hate.
You know I kinda feel like I understand this better coz there was a person who showed me all the right signals and like after some months I kissed them. They kissed back and legit said they regretted it. I don't hate art but then, art should've talked to mew about this. He shoulda told mew that he doesn't feel anything. I'm not blaming art but he should've told it. Anddd both of them shouda had a heart to heart convo. Its their life and its all in the past. I have no right to say this but still its just my opinion. And it shatters your heart when people do what art did to mew. I just hope they're okay. Idk but I feel like Asian entertainment industries are slowly becoming toxic, its starting to consume itself.
Thank you so much for posting this in a calmer fashion than the other videos available. All I knew was the “Mew kissed Art and then Art handled it publicly” thing. Thank you for allowing myself and others to hear more facts (even if they’re claims, it’s background information)
As soon I start watch TT in October, everybody talking about this situation. And I know only one side of the story, where Art is villain. I don’t really care about what happened between actors, I just enjoy the show. But couple weeks ago I stumbled upon the comments of fans who told the whole story, and I was surprised by the childish behavior of both actors. I would understand if they were 18 year old boys, but they are adults, they are in big business, and they will behave so irresponsibly. All I wish for Art is good career, because as we can see, Mew is very famous now, so no need, I think his career will be ok.
This whole situation was an absolute mess. While it's clear that there is a shit ton we don't know about it, they both could have handled it very differently. They both caused some damage to each other. I personally think mew got a bit more burned coz his feelings were involved. Before being an actor, he's human. It must have been devastating to find out that the person you like told the entire world how you made a move on them and that they kissed you back only out of pity. To get rejected that blatantly in front of everyone must have broken mew's heart. Of course they both had to endure a lot of shit careerwise. But I'm glad that it's over and buried in the past. I hope they both can move on from this fiasco
Thank you for this video explaination, I was MewArt shippers back then, and I know everything happen between both of them.. Both are doing mistake, if you follow them, you can tell both A and M, always fighting, Mew unfollow A then follow back at IG.. What can I said, maybe both of them had a feeling toward each other but its become toxic since Mew be possessive, once Art post wish his bestfriend birthday, with a photo Art kiss his friend cheeks, then Mew post at IG story shading Art like Art cheat on him.. If you watch the fancam video of MewArt you can tell Mew sometimes be possessive.. While Art be childish.. Honestly, past is past but hope Mew learn from past mistake, hope dont took much fanservice with current ship but I believe Gulf can handle it profesionally.. For Mewgulf shipper or Mew new fans, please if you dont know the real story between MewArt, dont judge Art like he was evil man.. Bashing Art, even some of them comment harsh on Art IG post.. Let Art breath, he just mind his own bussiness.. Lastly, hope both of them be successful in future, I can see Mew already had establish career, hope Art gonna be catch up too.. Art acting really good , he has potential..
Long story short you said what i wanted to say!! They keep bashing p'art as if they know what relationship they had. They'll continue their journey and we'll always support them!! They both deserve better for their acting skills!!
Seeing this and I’m like “ow, someone brought it up again” and then I watched it.. as the video goes further, the more I understand the situation back then. This video is great 👍
I followed this drama at the time happening, i neverrr tought that mew tweets were real, i always thoight it was becouse the shipa nd the series bwcouse in the series they had a toxic relationship...but Art tweets were the one that made me believe it was real... then my oponion both were wrong but art i think took it tooo far by outing mew, and i will always think art just have hope mew to then just letting him go couse i dont think mew will act like that just with one side love.... stillll i dont think people should hate art or mew... i am more in the mew side but still fallow art and will souport both. Couse mistakes are for humans. They both learnt about it
honestly you never know what those people are going through, they should stop forcing them to do fan service just to please an audience they could literally be heartbroken and have to go on stage to act like a couple which isn't their job
This went too far. The whole situation got so out of hand and it wasn’t necessary....
And now people are taking it too far.
This is exactly why these fanfervice "relationships" are so toxic. Feelings get hurt, friendships and professional relationships get destroyed, even careers and for what? Cheap profits and smokescreen. Why can´t we just enjoy the dramas as they are without all this added fanservice stuff, I like to believe that the fans of the shows are grown up and mature enough to understand that actors are actors. It is such an unnecessary thing to pretend that their "relationship" carries on to real life just to sell some extra merchandise and content. We do not expect this kind of thing from western series, so why is it necessary in this case? Mew and Art is not the first, unfortunately not the last BL actor pair this happened to, maybe they were just the one of the most explosive and ugliest. This really need to stop.
I agree! fanservice is totally unnecessary, and i think the most of the actors feels uncomfortable to act like this off the set, just for public entertainment
AND FANS WHO SHIP THE ACTORS IRL PLEASEEE. I never ship actors. Like I LOVE DBK and I LOVE PeteKao but I dont ship TayNew ! They are good friends and I love seeing them hang out thats about it
I really hate fanservice and would enjoy behind the scenes and interviews way more if they just stopped making these actors uncomfortable. I cringe through most of the shows and fanmeetings, and usually I don't even try to watch them.
I think fans service is okay and can be endearing as long as you leave it up entirely the actors. They shouldn’t ever feel pressured, but basically it’s another form of acting/marketing. I know that in some situations it’s all the actors ideas to get more of a fan base following so they pitch what they are comfortable with. I feel like if actors enjoy it and choose to do it on their own, more power to you. That is all something that should be heavily worked out between the actors. I don’t see Bright/Win doing anything they don’t want to and they have one of the biggest followings. Hollywood has been doing this forever just in a different way in terms of tabloids/pr management.
I agree but this fan service thing is where bl actors in Thailand get money. They're not paid much in acting unfortunately.
I also don't blame fans for shipping actors because the actors are the ones who give them hope.
Fans blew this situation out of proportion. Art isn't obligated to love Mew just because they acted in the same drama together. Simple as that.
All the things is in the part. We all are human. Art and Mew are human!!!
Well said 👏 👌 👍
I agree with you Ur absolutely right☯️☯️
That time when the comments are longer than the series
This is the comments I was looking for 😂😆😂😆😂
your name and pfp tho 😂 YOU'RE RODE YOU KNOW YouRe RoAd
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ok now my comment don't make sense coz they changed it
I always see your comments in the video that talks about Mew or BTS😁😁I am also army my bais is RM💜💜
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@RM's Dimples Oh my gosh!! You're here too😭 i feel like I'm stalking you
So they were both young, childish, not calm enough , ended up hurting each other and fucked up their relationship. Both moved on and though harm was made & clearly cannot be redone or completely forgotten, i think they both learned from that and grew up, and we as outsider can just carry on with our life without spreading hate.
I was clueless about this whole ‘drama’ so thank you so much for clearing things up, being unbiased in the process.
Samee
Same
I love BL content but I never really understood fan service culture. I tried, trust me, but for me it just seems like a really messed up way to gather attention. Actors act, that's their job. They shouldn't have to be all over each other in interviews and events to promote their work or for us to believe in it. If it so happens that they get involved, great for them. But it shouldn't be implicit. I think this culture plays a part in this story as in so many others. Imagine how confusing it must be for everyone involved when there's so much expectation beyond the fiction. I don't want to be mean or anything but I've seen so many "ship" videos that are just pure cringe. Including Mew and Gulf. I'm all for fun game shows and interviews and in most cases when the cast genuinely gets along it's a pleasure to watch but I'd be fooling myself if I couldn't tell just how uncomfortable they look sometimes with having to pretend to be in a relationship. It's emotionally and mentally unhealthy.
I’m with you like sometimes I watch ship videos of bl actors just because I come across them and sometimes I watch live interviews were the host make them do some very weird stuff and when they do it it seems like most of the actors are uncomfortable and it just seems awkward like it’s fine for them to do fan service but it just gets to out of hand sometimes because the actors can catch feelings and it’s all good if both actors have the same feelings but when one doesn’t have feelings and the other does it can get to some real drama
Thicc Bowl yes for sure I totally agree with you
Yeah I love bl dramas but this fanservice ..I mean u should keep a line between drama and real life ...At some point u dont even know whether its acting or real life ..I think well this things are messing up there personal life ..yeah You are big famous actor but u are human too u have got ur own ..So they should kearn how to keep the balance
Bl actor fool fans by fan service....it's not fans fault to ship them...
Bcz they act like couple...so ppl don't be delulu...it's all about money
True it should be stopped
Yk it’s serious when they unfollow each other💀
😭YESSSSS
Waanjai Army Atiny there following each other on Instagram tho 👀
can i ask if unfollow each other in social media
No they still follow each other on insta
@@amitnath3071 and twitter
Both of them, I think, were childish af, but like, art literally outed mew. You don't do that shit with someone working as a public figure, he should have had the opportunity to tell people himself.
whether you work as a public figure or not, outing anyone when they aren't ready to be open about it and taking away their right to choose whether to come out or not is so wrong. I'm not taking any sides, they both did dumb shit and I don't hate either of them but I do think Art outing Mew like that was really wrong.
Honestly I speak for myself, but I know that the reason I respect Mew is because he's grown and learned from his mistakes. And he displays that maturity on every live, work, event, etc. He's changed for the better. That's why I respect him and love him.
They both hurt each other. I wish it hadn't gone down like that
I felt like I was watching a kdrama , jesus😂
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Perfect example of how social media can really damage people’s relationships.
I will write my perspective from someone who was here when all of this happened, but it’s going to be a really long comment so, first, what I want to say is: Leave this whole situation in the past. They both don’t talk about it anymore, and we shouldn’t as well. It’s over now, let’s respect their decisions and their new projects. Mew is working with Gulf now, TharnType season 1 has just finished and season 2 is coming, so let’s focus on this.
The whole situation makes me so frustrated... They were both wrong, both acted childish.
I think they both made a mistake on the same point, exposing too much without thinking. Mew shouldn’t have tweeted every time something happened, he is a public figure. Art shouldn’t have exposed Mew that way if they had already talked and made up things about that sleepover, mainly about Mew’s sexuality.
About the kiss... I understand Mew. Art was always acting like he liked Mew back, it always seemed mutual! Even when Mew kissed him, Art let him do that. What would he think? Mew thought it was okay then. Art should have stopped Mew right there and said he didn’t feel the same, but he didn’t, he made Mew believe it was okay until days later Art spoke his mind and opened his heart to Mew, saying he wanted to be just a brother to him. It all could’ve ended at this point. But they both took it too far...
Hearts are broken everyday, Mew would deal with that alone, but suddenly everyone knows about it and he was probably ashamed...
About Mew’s jealousy... That’s wrong. He doesn’t have the right to stop Art from seeing any friends, they being in a relationship or not. I will NEVER accept that and say it was okay, that’s like, the first step to an abusive relationship.
But I think that the major mistake they had was to expose this deep part of their lives. They forgot that, right now they are acting as a couple and have to give fanservice, but what about in the future? They can’t throw their careers away. Since they loved each other so much (at least that’s what they used to say) they should’ve thought about it.
I’m so happy that Mew is having a great time with TharnType The Series now!!!! His relationship with Gulf seems really healthy and genuine, even if as friends. Their friendship is the cutest, they really care about each other.
And I wish the best to Art! I hope he can have great projects in the future and live a very successful life, he deserves it!
From the bottom of my heart, they both are amazing guys. They deserve nothing but the best. Mew and Art, you did great. I think we all go through some things that will make us grow and live a better life afterwards.
Love, from someone who has being supporting you since What The Duck’s teaser was released. 💕
I really love this take. I agree with all your opinions on what they did wrong and what was understandable.
ah u wrote like a Good consoling mama !
Apples and Pears I reallyyyy appreciate that you agree with my points 🥺
Ru M Or hahahahahaha 💕
Oh i come here by chance and ive learned amazing setences from yours. I mean im an English learner. 😊 your writing is so good.
I really fell in love at how u talked about this controversial topic so positively
Hands down for u sis 👏👏👏
This is the best way to report something without any biased statements
Like ur user name...
Wash your dirty laundry in private, dry your clean laundry in public. Both of them never should have fought on social media.
As someone who came in late to the game, I appreciate this video. There's a lot of information out there and your video seems unbiased and comprehensive, thank you 💕
I didn't know Art was getting hate now. Before, it was Mew who was dragged through the mud. I claim no knowledge of a fight between two people I don't know, but I'll give my two cents about something I'm quite familiar with: outing someone without their consent. Not only is it horrible when someone does it to me, a regular person, in a private setting, without any potential consequences to my private life and work, but to think of someone doing it A.to a person who is a celebrity, B.on the Internet for everyone to see, and C.fully knowing that it may end someone's career in an industry that depicts gay men but refuses to hire actual gay men for the roles... well, that horrifies me, to be honest. I can't say else about the situation itself and frankly, it's none of my business. It's just.. sad all around, and I hope it's forgotten at some point. No need in opening old wounds.
In my opinion, both actors were in the wrong. As a bisexual, I have a constant fear of being outed to my family. Art should not have outed Mew. Someone's sexuality is only for them and those *they* decide to share it with. That being said, Mew should have handled the situation so much better. If everything Art said is true, Mew seems kinda toxic? Maybe just childish? Tharntype was my first bl and when I saw everyone saying "I'm kinda afraid Mew will fall in love with Gulf like he did Art" I just thought "well what's the big deal? He's an adult". Only after watching this did I truly understand the consequences of what happened. It's unfortunate that everyone hates Art exclusively. Mew isn't as innocent as everyone is making him seem (that is if everything is true). Tharntype shippers shouldn't just jump on the Art hating bandwagon. It's not fair to Art. Yes, he did some bad things, but so did Mew. It's sad that their fight happened, especially bc of the way they handled it. Publicly fighting isn't a mature way of solving the problem. They both should've handled it in private, especially Mew. I appreciate you looking at both sides of the story and relaying information with little to no bias. Great video ❤
Wow at last... it’s an honor to meet someone like you.. ♥️ same thing happened to me I’ve found Art on comments and was curious. My Sherlock Holmes genes kicked in and I did some digging around. The more I learn about Art the more I started liking him. He loves social media. He’s doing lives almost everyday and it’s so fun to watch him even if I don’t understand a word. He puts his thoughts out there and answers the questions all the time.
The live you see today is just an edited version. But you can read the translation of the whole thing. There he addressed lots of questions, it seems to me he didn’t mean to talk about lots of things during that live but the fans were under the delusion of them in a relationship, were hurt and angry so they kind of pressured Art for answers. The reason he was crying was not the kiss but fans attacked his friends and his adopted mom. They said many nasty stuff. So he just lost it there. He was 21 back then and might have wanted to defend those who he loved. He said “don’t pressure mew the same way you’re pushing me.” He said “I didn’t want to hurt his feelings so I kissed him back.” so no pointing fingers for assault. He didn’t say I don’t like him, he said “mew has someone so I feel it’s wrong.” I couldn’t find any reliable info about any confession either so the rejection didn’t happen like people like to fantasize as long as they don’t tell us themselves it’s rude to assume so. But the thing is after this incident they made up. They did a Tep interview together and in English too. So people taking sides and bashing the other are kind of ridiculous.
@cherry Lin ♥️ I know Art didn’t delete any of his tweets. He’s not the kind to do so. I’m a new fan too but if people are really curious to know what happened they can find it out. So in my opinion being new is not an excuse to their disgusting behavior. It’s totally unacceptable.
Magnitude of hatred Art is receiving is kind of unusual, so I’m wondering just fans are behind this or any other party.?
@@wintersona4912 ♥️true that. I also managed to get that from their social media. I don’t know why but I feel so terrible someone going this far spreading rumors and hatred towards someone. One should always remember that single guy at the receiving end is also human. He feels too. And he means the world to someone out there. Just like you are to your family. I’ve said it few times but I’ll say it again and again, these haters are just bullies. And Thank you very much ♥️ sweetheart for standing up against bullying.. lots of love.. ♥️
@@wintersona4912 ♥️
Exactly... Don't drag your fights on social media... Messaging is not a way to resolve conflicts... Talk to each other....
At the end of the day, we don't know what really happened and it's best for us all to move on and support other actors which also includes Mew and Art, there is no need for any of us to take sides when we don't know the whole situation. Just support your favourite actors and let the past be the past. If you do chose to take sides it's okay, but that doesn't mean we bash the other actor. Please respect both of them even if you don't like one of them. Let bygones be bygones. Look in the future.
Art Pakpoom has a new upcoming BL series called "Secret Admirer". He is paired with someone named Boat. Let us wish Art success in his career and forget all the hate cuz it's not healthy.
Tbh most this situation when it was going on felt like we as fans shouldn’t be involved. Like Art and Mew hurt each other for sure and I can’t imagine that pain but- that’s a discussion they should have with each other or trusted love ones. The internet is a scary place my dudes especially if you’re famous
We’re all outsider. Let’s support them in their own paths. And what I noticed in this video is that taking care of each other is important. Public or Private matter.
Tbh I will be real...Art outing Mew when he clearly said that the situation was resolved was dead wrong on his part...Mew using his social platform for shading individuals does not sit well with me either...but when you think about it Mew would have been open to Art on how he felt before?? Not being bias towards Mew...even though I am a fan of Mew.
1.theory is we do not know what happened off screen...Art could have played with Mew's feelings and he could have known about how Mew felt.
2. theory is that Mew really liked Art but that rejection was not how he expected it to go.
3. Mew and Art could have been going out secretly under the pretext that its fanservice or brotherly love and Art wanted out or Mew possessiveness was too much and Art could not handle it.
There are so many possibilities that could happen it is best we close that chapter and leave it.
Honestly, I would be real again Actors in this genre (BL), should know what they are up against when they enter the industry. They should act wisely on their paths on making decisions and be rational.
I wanna say one thing, I'm totally on Mew's side. But also both of them were immature. Mew shouldn't have brought it to social media, and Art shouldn't have kept it going. If it was solved privately, why make it such a big deal. I think the reason Art got so much backlash is because he publicly outted someone, and he made all these claims without showing hardcore evidence. It was stupid of art and very impulsive, and I think if he had such a huge problem then he should've discussed it with Mew. He had to know the consequences of his hasty actions. The crying live video looked fake and if I was Mew, I'd feel really shitty. Cause he knew that if he hadn't brought it to social media, in the first place, it would've never gotten this bad.
that’s true but it wasn’t only Mew who brought it into the media
About the kiss, mew already told fans that he kissed Art before Art even confessed in the crying video. Actually when i follow them back then, we already know about the kiss. No one argued or discussed (from what i read) about Art outed Mew. After Mew told fans about the kiss, they still look ok with each other. When art crying in the video, he actually feel frustrated because Mew told fans that he is lying about being sick. He shouldn’t make that video though. Because of the emotion that he had at the time, he revealed all the things that make him uncomfortable even though some of them have been solved. For me, both Art and Mew make silly mistakes. Mew actually just want to communicate with fans. But, when their relationship got rocky, things like that need to resolve in private.
You don't even know the whole. Mew was the first one who start shts on sns.
As for outing, mew was doing a pretty good of that by himself. We knew he was not totally straight ,from his tweets,comments, interviews etc way before Art said Mew kissed him privately
@@BunnySaintV1 Well... Who would feel good tho... It the video I believed that he let mew kissed him... Then just say wanted to be brother after some time... He let him kissed him... If you don't want the kiss then just reject them on that day. No need to give hope ...
@@markgabrielmedrano702 and all the teasing from Art in the videos (a lot)... dude, other work partners didn't go that far... only kiss and hug and some lil touch :v
I hope people will stop judging them and let them move on.I dont blame either of them coz i dont know d full story and i wish Art's career will improve for d better too.
Shittu Zainab Omolola I really like your comment because even though it’s both mew and art fault. Art has received a lot of hate on how he doesn’t deserve to return to his acting career. So hopeful art has a comeback. And mew is successfully with tharntype. Wish both are successful and do well
We just can't pick sides with situations like these..
I remained neutral the whole time and just sipped my tea 🍵
From the perspective of a diehard MewGulf fan who only knew Mew since TharnType series, I have to say this.
When I heard about his scandal with Art of course I did my research but I couldn't get any further in my judgement than this video. I don't know how their relationship was like off screen since I never saw a single live or interview they did together. So I'm hesitating whether I should form an opinion on this but I'll try regardless.
Both of them were in the wrong by publicly handling their private affairs. I'm not taking sides here. I have no idea what Art is doing right now or how he processed all of this but we were able to witness how much Mew has matured since. He has been treating Gulf with a lot of respect since the beginning, you can see during fanmeets when they are asked to do fanservice Mew always asks for permission from Gulf before doing anything. Mew's hot temper has also been addressed in interviews and he seems to have acknowledged that it's something he needs to fix and Gulf is always there to help him fight his demons (and vice versa ofc). Their relationship seems so genuine and even though they sulk at each other they don't hold grudges and make up quickly. They changed each other for the better since they're together and anyone can see that they have a very special bond.
So my point is, let's not cancel anyone because of their past mistakes because as you can see Mew has been given a second chance and proved that he learned his lessons. I hope Art has also learned from his mistakes and finds happiness and success just like Mew did. There's really no point in sending hate towards him after all this time, I'm sure they apologized to each other privately (since they still follow each other on ig) and moved on long time ago.
Personally I find it an extremely fortunate situation that Mew achieved all this success after being outed cuz usually that's not the case. It's a bit ridiculous that BL actors cannot come out as gay because they wouldn't get major roles anymore. Being straight is still considered the norm but I hope it will change soon.
Exactly you said it all
I really don’t want to enter this topic ...but what art did affected him more than mew tbh...tho they were immature about the whole thing and who knows if is true or not. Why people support mew because of how he his now with his behavior and attitude towards gulf as humans who won’t support mew? Anyways is all bygone(sometimes I actually thank what happened because what ever happened in the past made the future really sweet as he met gulf kanawut)
This is indeed the best comment here in this video. I'm also a MewGulf supporter, and I've seen how Mew grew. And big respect for those who have given him a chance to prove himself in BL industry. It opened for him to prove himself that he have changed, and they also received a lot of awards because of that series and it made their fans really proud.
I can understand why Mew tweeted about all this and therefor started it. He acted really childish about being rejected. I've been there too. I was hurt, so in my teenage brain the only logical thing was to post some shady things online. Of course as an adult, I regret it. But I was childish and he was really childish too. He was hurt and he lashed out, not the smartest decision. I think he understood that later and that's why he deleted all of his tweets, following up with another childish move, by changing his profil picture and changing his username. But he kind of understood, that making this all public was really not a good idea. And yes, he could (and maybe indeed did) hurt Art's career.
But I think there is really no good excuse for outing someone against their will. Maybe Art also lashed out and wanted some kind of "revenge" for Mew making all of this public or he simply didn't use his brain in this moment. But making this such a big deal by bringing in his sexuality is really just a shitty move.
And it seems like neither of them apologized for what they did.
They both acted really childish and impulsive, which led to potentially hurting the other's career. In Mew's case, it only jumpstarted it, he found Gulf who really loves him (in whatever way) and Mew seems to have learned about this whole thing. As someone already said, he is very big on consent with Gulf and is very polite, but he also seems to be more careful about keeping personal things private. I don't know much about Art, because I simply don't follow him. Maybe his career took a hit from all this and he wasn't booked for any other series. Maybe he didn't want to act in BL Series anymore because of what happened with Mew. I just know that the majority of the MewGulf fandom hating Art for no reason, or simply because he was the "ew" of Mew and therefor a potential thread for MewGulf, is completely unfair and really disgusting. I don't know what happened exactly, I hate neither Art nor Mew. I'm happy that Mew is in such a good place right now and I hope Art is too.
It makes sense now. I read somewhere about Mew asking Gulf for consent before kinship in public....now it makes sense
Now this is what we call an unbiased informing video ladies and gents. I was personally so confused by the entire thing and couldn't grasp why people were so angry at Art but now I see how taking sides blindly can make you look like an idiot.
I didnt even knew what happened between them I got this video in my reccommmendations and I was like "something happened with them" so I watched this video being worried what happened
I think a good private conversation between the actors could have sorted this out in the beginning itself...Fanservices are also to blame because they want the actors to act in their respective roles, not just as actors. They want them to become a real couple even though the actors don't want to...Its good to appreciate their chemistry....but to do them off-screen will lead to misunderstandings and confusions. Why don't the fans understand this?
It's really hard for the actors for they might catch romantic feelings that are not mutual. Forcing actors to be a couple will torture them mentally and emotionally.
@@alonalon6267 Yes I agree with you.
I agree. Things should have been handled privately. All the shady tweets and instagram lives seem very petty to me. They are both grown men and should have known that the things they said in their lives would negatively affect each other, or maybe they knew the consequences and did it anyways/on purpose. I'd rather believe that they just did not know how to deal with it better in the moment, because I like them both as actors and don't want to believe that they would try to ruin each other's careers. Also, I'm kind of leaning more to Art's side because I feel like he was forced into a corner.
Also they both still follow each other on instagram? I don't know if that means much, but I believe they have left this matter in the past(even though I think it still affects art's career to this day) so let's also leave the hate in the past.
Updated: art join wabisabi (new siwaj's company) and continue his acting career. He still quite struggled with his past but he doing okay right now. He was a cast of seven project. And will have several project under wabisabi.
This is heart breaking for me because every ppl that i know turn their back from art, while i still think some of accident that happen not fully his fault. But i couldn't talk openly about my opinion since im afraid ppl gonna hate me. But i hope you guys keep support art and mew.
i remember when this all went down in 2018. i was so worried about both of them and it made me realize how the fan service some actors are forced to do is so toxic. while this wasn’t all fan service, i think it is what lead to this conflict. i’m so happy for Mew and his career and hope the best for Art as well.
Don't worry. Now,Art has a new Bl series calls SecretAdmirerTheseries. Art is so happy with his partner who respect and know really he is for a long time before he met Mew. They are very cute together🥰 #Artpakpoom
Everyone defending mew just because they think Art outcoming him when mew already openly flirting with man? The real victim here is Art. I'm glad that Gulf seems like someone who can protect himself.
I just found out that Art will be in a drama next year. At least he was able to get back into acting after this.
At first he gave up in acting and never tried any BL movie. It was leaving a bad shadow in him. I think all his friends and his fans helping him over this. Now he acting in BL movie again and look so cheerful and happy with his coworkers. Because he is beautiful people keeping mistakes his sexuality. In real life he manly and stronger than most his friends. I hope people respect his personal life more. For me he is really good young boy, no alcohol, no drug, no messy relationship.
I personally "adore" Art. I still do. In the series I feel his character is a troubled soul in a bad world. I have known more than one human who was like him. I really hope and pray that the "real-life" Art is doing well.
I watched that video already, the thing is both of them did wrong we all know that. After that video almost all people watched that video started to hate mew, people throw harsh and bad words to mew, and only few people keep supporting him that time. It is true that mew is started gaining his fame again because of ttts, but there are still people keep supporting him after that happened and I'm one of them. And Yeah, that time I am honestly disappointed at both of them but right now I am very proud of mew not just because of the ttts but because of mew moving on of what happened and stand on his own feet. He learned the lesson after what happened. That's why lot of people loves him. It is not easy to back to the industry with a big issue and no proper closure. It takes more courage to step on again. If we're him, I am still afraid to go back thinking there are still people keeps on opening the issue. Thats the why I keep supporting mew. I'm not saying that art can't still move on. And I hope he can now go back to the industry. And if that happened I wish he really learned the lesson. In that way he can be a better person. And have a proper closure. It may not be the same as they were back then at least they can speak to each other...
I just entered TharnType fandom in less than a week, and the drama is GREAT. However, I kept on being referenced to MewGulf, thus leading me into finding out about Mew's (and Gulf's) life dynamic. And honestly, having a history of a diehard Kpop pair shipper back in 2011, I would lie if I say MewGulf did not drive me insane and to cloud nine.
However, I have been working branding and marketing strategy for a few years now. And I understand the dynamic of today's industry, in the social media era: do EVERYTHING that people buy, most importantly your target market.
We know that Thai BL is mainly marketed to women. And scientifically proven, women love man x man trick; meaning bringing character to real life selling trick would actually works in generating sales.
Now, I am not saying that we should not believe what we want to believe. MewGulf and MewArt maybe real (or at least, one was real). If it is indeed happening, good for them! I cherish them (and my fangirling soul can be complete and die at peace).
But if not, no matter how "bad" either actors are in real life (hypothetically), they do not deserve to be played around, forced to do extreme relationship, and having their independence in private life and choices (e.g: for romantic partner preference) be completely stolen away from them, or micromanaged. Sadly, this has been done many time too, like for example, the alleged trick done in both High School Musical (Zac Efron - Vanesa Hudges) and Twilight series (Robert Pattison - Kristen Stewart).
Human feelings are not for joke. No matter how much an actor/actress is paid, "given life" from their acting job, acting should remain as acting, not crossing into their private life.
This was a very well done synopsis of the issue. Thank you for making this video. I am one of those people who fell on Mew's side. I fell on Mew's side for a number of reasons but the point that Art tried to out Mew was number one. I appreciate you covering this topic specifically. It was dangerous move and it backfired on Art. Mew has a very good reputation for being a very professional actor and very well educated. That has always stuck with him. Mew is also a good role model for many Thai youth and people both in Thailand and abroad know this about him.
You rightly said that what Art said in the live are all claims, unproven. If true, outing Mew is the problem. If not true, manipulation of stories is the problem. Either way, there's a problem. Mew remained silent. I also think one of the reasons why fans were upset about Art was the difference between their attitudes. Mew remained silent and I think that is what professionals should do. Mew said in interviews several times that if he opens up his mouth and if what he says can hurt the others involved, he would rather remain silent. And he did. I also could not find Mew's live accusing Art for being late for schedules and I seriously doubt whether it exists. Some tweets from both of them were quite emotional and they both did wrong in that sense, yes, but I think Art went too far broadcasting their unconfirmed private issues, such sensitive issues. It could have been the end of their career, especially Mew's. I think people's taking side at that time was based on common sense, because what happened on the live victimises one side and makes the other side look very bad. Nobody knows how much truth was in there. I also personally felt offended when I found out that Mew was outed publicly like that and anyone with common sense knowledge knows that that is something that should have never happened. It seems that Art filmed a new series, though, a boy-girl series, which is good for him, and it will be broadcasted soon. So it seems that both of them found their ways regarding their career.
WAS WAITING FOR THIS TYSM
Oh mew i wish i didn't see this video... He turned out to be not easy as he looks...!!!
And people are just mean hating on art... Don't judge something you don't know... Do u like feeling the same as art?
Exactly!! If art was a woman their reaction to this situation would have been different. Art is the one receiving all the hate and drags, his career was even put on pause while mew's went up.
Yeah....after I found the whole story, I couldn't take either of their sides. Mew did wrong, Art did wrong. It's unfortunate that Art got most of the hate. Like you said, I think this is mostly because a lot of people (new fans) weren't there when this all went down so they've just been hearing/seeing what other fans have been passing around and what they pass around are all one-sided. I've seen so many fans talk about the incident from Mew's side and villainizing Art. When you hear Art's side too, it becomes clear "taking sides" is pretty much bs. How can you even pick a side when they're both wrong, is what I'm saying. It's odd to pick a side knowing whoever you pick, still did the other dirty, in one way or another. It's better to just remain in the middle and unbiased. I hope both their careers go well, now or in the future, that's about it.
Jotaky Ininoo that hate is new because new fans are looking into the topic and are getting the wrong news. But as the situation was taking place Mew was hated on just like art is being hated on. People keep making this one sided and it was an issue where two people were wrong. But it’s in the past stop bringing it up. Mew is doing good and art is living his life stop bringing up this situation. It hurt the both of them and it was sad. Mew fell in love and did some things to art and art was uncomfortable rightfully so but they were both in the wrong
Not really,,, I'm already a fan of mewart back then....the thing is mew got most of the hate calling him pervert and etc. ....why I keep supporting him not just because of the ttts....but how brave he is to go back to the industry knowing there are still people who keeps on opening this issue...how he deals with those bash before.... How he learned his mistakes.... And the most of all accepting himself....it's not because of bias thing... The past can never be change anymore... The option that have is to settle or reconcile with each other and have a proper closure about this issue and move on and learned from their mistakes.. I hope art can now go back to the industry and can see him as a better person.
@@galendezregineangelaf.5353 No I meant like within the context of the incident you chose a side. Then that would be biased. BUT anything after doesn't relate so you can choose whoever you want to support. Such as supporting Mew over Art because of how he's able to deal with the bash and learn from mistakes. Valid point to choose him. But if you were to take a look at the incident and go "well Mew is more innocent because etc etc, I side with him" then you'd be biased within the context of the incident.
@@jotakyininoo2758 yeah you're right....that time I was so disappointed for both them. For being so unprofessional using social media platform in that way, for being insensitive of the feelings of other. But just like what I said. The past can never be change. We can only move forward . Hope for their best.
Mew got so much hate before TTTS his career was almost destroyed.... both did wrong but outing Mew was never the same as anything M did
They're human and no matter what I will continue to support Art ❤️
Thanks for making this video! It's nice to see someone talk about this issue without taking sides, or making it about ships.
Really feel like the whole issue can be summed up as, *people make mistakes.*
What's important is that they've both moved on from this experience, learned from it, and seem to be doing a lot better now.
Wishing them both luck in any of their future pursuits!
I think the reason why many of MewArt fans sided with Mew on this is because they believed that there really was a romantic relationship between the pair. So when they discovered that it was a one-sided love, they decided to stay with the one who fell in love. It would seem like that this person shared the same pain as what was experienced by the fans during the whole fiasco.
I don't get why mewart shippers would hate on art i didn't hated him when i watched his live because i don't know what actually happened. Mew and art are the ones who knows what actually happened. Let's just support both of them and don't hate on art support him like how you support mew.
I have watched your video several times and also digging other videos. Art outing Mew was never a good thing but, my support goes to Art. After all, Mew got lucky because he was being offered a role in TT which further skyrocketing his stardom.
I’m doing well thanks! Also, make sure that you are taking care of yourself as well!
Wow. I finished the video and really all I have to say is they were both wrong. Both displaying the situation online and Art just exposing Mew isn’t okay. As you said, it could have ruined both of their careers by a lot:/. I too am not on either side and the situation could have been handled WAY better.
They were both wrong but they both learned to be better. 🤷♀️
Just take it as, back at that time, they were too new to the industry, being straightforward and crystal and immature. (however I still feel Art doing the Live on purpose for some reason and Mew really had and still has A LOT of haters) Now, they know they live under public's attention.
But, I still thank Gulf for loving Mew (Phi nong) and accepting him as himself. Glad they met and being successful
They should’ve kept it private 😔🤚🏼
Has anyone considered the possibility that this whole thing was a publicity stunt to garner interest in the show? I could conceive of the producers wanting to capitalize on the natural chemistry of these two actors with an extra story. Think of WTD and it's pretty WILD in terms of themes and intended shock value, such a stunt wouldn't be much of a stretch.
Hecuba Queen of Troy yes this has crossed my mind, but if true it backfired
If you watch the lives that came with the drama you can tell they were actually hurt. I do not think this was a publicly stunt.
If it was a marketing stunt,mew has suffered because of it already, why bring up something that happened 2years ago now..haved watched this video before and could only see Art trying to pull the self pity game on fans.. Mew whether being gay or not,thats not the right way to go about things,..
It wasn’t a marketing stunt. Pree and Bo were suppose to reconcile at the end of WTD2 but with all the drama somethings had to be shuffled around and that was just cut out.
If it was really a publicity stunt for the show then it totally went south for one of them...I haven't watched what the duck yet but I thought Mewart weren't the main couple...if they were to pull a stunt like this wouldn't they do it with the main couple then again I haven't watched the series so I don't know just speculating...don't hate me
Edit: if it really was a publicity stunt wouldn't Art have said something about it after what it did to his career...
I started watching BL series a few months ago someone recommended What the duck the series, me being curious Georgey I decided to do some research about the series, But all I saw was negative comments and so-called "fans" bashing art, Like I don't know why the fans would just hate someone without seeing the whole picture and the audacity they have for trying to interfere with other peoples privacies disgusts me, Now I may have not been there for the MewArt scandal but from all the information I've gotten, I Know both of the actors were in the wrong. And the fans shouldn't just send hate to One of the Actors ( none of them) Fans also shouldn't be biased, I feel like most of the time's fans are biased, it just turns into something worse than it actually is. ( please Stop sending Hate To Art, IDK what you gain from that but it's stupid and immature.
I was a fan of Art, but I sided on Mew's back then, only because I just knew the 'Art ousting Mew' instead of the whole, real situation of their conflict. Their real side of their fight. I was quite immature of their situation, which I hated myself for having that kind of attitude. As for now, we really don't know what really happened, and we should respect them, for we have no right to judge. I won't side on anyone yet.
Anyways, I'm hoping new projects for Art. 💕
Thank you for making this video. As a fan of Mew's the only information I had previously been able to find on the subject was only focused on Art's mistakes.
I appreciate you explaining the whole situation clearly and without bias. They both made mistakes and none of it should have happened. 💜
Thank you for making this video!! It's been hard to find any information on this situation and I didn't want to jump to any conclusions before knowing both sides!!
That being said I want to give my two cents on the issue (while still remaining as unbiased as I can). I think there were a lot of wrongs done on both sides but what makes me specifically feel for Mew in this situation is how Art essentially outed him. As a gay guy who was outed in a scarily similar situation, I know how bad it feels. You're already upset from having your feelings rejected/not being given a clear answer and then to have your sexuality outed is another nail in the box. While, yes, Mew did "tarnish" Art's reputation by accusing him of faking being sick and not finishing work (in this case a vlog) and whether this is the reason Art hasn't been cast in another bl drama or something else, Art still essentially outed Mew. To god knows how many people, we have no idea if Mew was out in his private life and what Art did could've put Mew in danger. However, at the end of the day, what has happened has happened and I wish them both the best in their careers both off and on screen.
Sorry I ended up rambling more than intended, this is a topic I'm really passionate about as its something I can directly relate to ;;
I'm new to dramas. And very new to bl dramas. I haven't watched What The Duck yet. But I really enjoyed Tharnttype very much. Mew and Gulf are great together. I'm sorry for the trouble in his past. Hopefully he learned from it. Keep person disagreements private. It's better for yourself and the other person.
Thank you for clearing this up for me because I joined the bl fandom when mewart was a really loved ship.
But then I suddenly found out about the hate towards art and could not understand at all what happened (because I took a break from bl and did not follow the bl news per say)
I agree with you that both of them were wrong in this case. It is unfair for only one of them to have suffered. From what we as outsiders know, it puts Art in a really bad light as if he did a lot of wrong. We really should not comment on anything related to their situation because we don't know the full story.
Also it is sad how people are still not letting It go. I was watching Mew's live once when TharnType was still airing and it made me sick to see how people were still asking him about Art. People need to let it go. For real!
Great job! I was "here" when the whole thing happened, and I can confirm 99% of these infos, except the part about Mew not receiving much hate, which is actually not correct. Bro recieves so much hate until this day it's unbelievable, even the things he works on (Tharntype) get a lot of hate, but so does Art! Anyway, I totally agree with you, they were both wrong and really immature, both attitudes were inconsequential and could have ruined ones reputation and career. Although I think outing Mew was probably more serious, I think Art was really scared, you know, and impulsive because of fear and confusion, we were not in any of their places and have no right to judge that kind of thing. So yes, they were both wrong, but it's been a long time dude, enough with the hate of both of them, you know...people need to learn to LET GO.
Martina Art didn't scared. He said at that time Mew already seeing someone (Art known something happened when Mew went to Japan with someone and after that, M/A fight a lot) he think it's wrong and he doesn't want to be a third person. He tried to ask Mew but unclear that's why he decided to separated with Mew and keep status only brothers. That he cried not because he was sad that Mew kissed him. But because Mew broke his trust Mew chose to lie, Aggressive and some fans attack Art. Actually, At first time Art didn't want to say anything because he knew it didn't good for both sides, but Art Fan told him to come out to protect himself because Some fans who don't understand speak badly to Art frinds/Art family and also accused him of drug addiction so he came out to explain. He never out Mew. I don't exactly know why people still say Art outed Mew. About the kiss. Art said because of fans asked him in the comments live Why does Art not sleep with Mew (Art went to Mew condo because he had to shoot a vlog with Mew), Art said at that time, Mew kissed him. he didn't refuse because he was shocked, he didn't know what to do and he doesn't want to make Mew become angry. He therefore rushed out of the condo, going back to his thoughts and telling Mew that he is not okay with what happened. Mew shouldn't cross the brother line. I don't really know why Mew did that maybe he loves Art too much and doesn't let Art goes. On Art's clip lived ,he also tells everyone to stop attacking Mew and people around Art . And don't ask about that person to Mew. If Mew will tell, let Mew tell himself. If everyone curses, come and scold only Art. He is willing to accept hatred alone. The bad thing is His published clip was cut. Actually, Art's clip explains everything that fans suspect for almost 43 minutes, but the current clip has only 12 minutes.
I wanna say there were some vids of Arts friends/peers confirming that Mew did tell them not to get close to Art over dms. But again it’s a he said she said kinda thing but who knows.
I really wish they had discussed this privately. I had been avoiding this video like a plague because I didn't want to bring back bad memories. When WTD teasers came out, I remember being so excited about MewArt. Their chemistry was amazing and everything. I didn't really like the series as it progressed tho. WTD has potential but yikes did it go downhill. I didn't even watch the 2nd season. But that's besides the point. I really liked MewArt together and then this drama happened and I was shook. I know people still hate Art for exposing everything on the live, but honestly Mew was the one who went public with it first. As much as I love Mew, he was being immature then. So I really never side with anyone on this drama. I just feel bad that Art's career got ruined.
Mew has always been the one that caught my eye ever since WTD, and I was also their shipper prior to this bitter drama... I always thought this personal misunderstanding could have resolved between them and not bring up in the public eyes... However I don't despise art for whatever reason...actually I feel so bad for mew since his career could have ended before starting it off. . I don't know about other fans but I have always supported him back then and now.. So m very happy for what he have achieved after TTTs... Every good things come to you in its own time so it's mew's time to shine after getting passed thrrough the phase of hatred and badmouthing!!!!
For me it’s very rocking, there are so less following but now he finally back again in other BL oh god please this time art find everything okay and he deserve what an acting in what the duck still these day many actors not comfortable to play that challenging role but he did.
Wait damn....this is a lot more detailed so thanks for doing this! All I was able to hear abt the situation before this was that mew liked art and then art outed him so everyone disliked art.....guess it goes to show you how distorted ppl make the situation
Saanvixx actually a lot of people disliked Mew too. Both of them got a lot of hate for it. I think both of them still do to this day. But they are some people who pretty much worship Mew and hate on Art without actually knowing what happened.
My takeaway from all this, (having no real idea what the whole story was before I watched this even though I watched What the Duck almost a year ago) is it's probably in everyone's best interest to keep your private life private. I also very much disagree with fan service, I'm way older than the typical BL fan but personally I think the actors should separate themselves from the characters after a show completes. Yes, go out and do promotions but the games they play and the overly personal questions some of the interviewers ask are way over the top. Sure they gain fans through fanservice but what does it serve, you get ship wars and crazy fans who refuse to watch their favorite couple "splitting up" to do a new BL with a different "partner".
I'm sorry about what happened to Mew and Art, it sounds like a serious lack of communication with each other that one or two heart to hearts could have cleared up, no need to drag the public into it. I still like Mew, I still like Art and it looks like lesson learned with Mew at least.
I totally like how this video was made. The timeline is really good. Honestly, I'm not a fan of art nor a hater, but i want to thank the maker of this video for giving me a glimpse of art's side. "No one knows what exactly happened between the 2" such wise words. Again thank you 😁
I think part of the problem is these guys were still reasonably young when this happened. You don’t always think about the backlash of the things you do in the heat of the moment in a fight, especially when you’re younger. Social media just exacerbated the problem. People get so used to posting everything about their lives, they forget some of it needs to be held back.
They were both wrong... As much as I love mew, I hope the for the best when it comes to Art too.
Don't worry. Now, Art has a new Bl series calls Secret Admirer The series. There's gonna film in this year. Art is so happy with his partner who respect and knows really he is for long time before he met Mew☺️ they are very cute together. #Artpakpoom #secretadmirertheseries
I enjoyed hearing your comments and the way you speak English is beautiful and also the way you analysed the whole situation its so easy to understand and makes me want to follow all your future analysis. Good job ... keep it up! :)
Both were in the wrong. I think since that happened, they have both learned from it. (I can't speak for Art since I don't know much about him) but Mew has been honest and admitted his faults, Gulf is aware of these faults, he probably knows of the past (who knows if he has both perspectives) and Mew seems to be happier. Reading the comments on this video, it seems that Mew is still getting bashed for being outed. If he is confused or sure but not ready to come out, Art should not have done that. It wasn't something he should have done. All I can say, is that when people have their feelings hurt they tend to lash out and make foolish mistakes/decisions. It's up to them to learn from these decisions and to ultimately grow/learn from it. Like I said, Mew seems to have taken that to heart, I've heard he always asks Gulf first before touching him. I wish Art has also learned from this and has found some happiness as well. I think, as fans, we should take a step back and realize that these are human beings with real feelings. We only ever get what they show us, be it fan service or whatever. The only thing in this situation that shouldn't be forgiven is Art outing Mew. That was not kosher and as you've said, could have ruined Mew's career. (I feel like I've read something about how BL directors only hire straight actors and that bi or gay actors getting roles is rare). Thank you for this video, it really helps clear some things up.
I agree with you about Art outing Mew. No matter how hurt you just dont say smt that can destroy smb. It would have just remained an immature fight and long forgotten
Yes I agreed that at the end of the day nobody knows what truly happened between mew and art. Don't feel biased because of what you only known,heard not everything on the Internet was right accept the fact that sometimes we really can't depend on social media. Stop throwing some hate to them and think carefully and watch words your throwing because in that simple act it can lead to make a huge damage so please be careful. they're already hurt so much by their own actions so I hope that everyone who was ruining their lives should stop. I hope this video will help others to think carefully.
I agree to the point where you said they both did wronged to each other
Neither mew and nor art take this issue privately but Instead they use social media and this affects both of them tremendously
I'm not anyone's side here
And I don't understand how can people hate on just one person where this is duality in between seriously I don't hate anyone here in fact you know misunderstanding happens they work together and if something has gone wrong it's natural but going on and bashing them spreading negativity it's not
Good and don't go on judging them if you don't know what really happened
From the perspective of supporting Mew, they may also support Mewart ship.So they seen the kiss as Mew want to build the relationship with Art, but Art ruined the chance of real BL couple. And the most important thing is that ,if Art do not want Mew to kiss him, he should reject him at that sleepover but not days later, as it give a sense to Mew that Art received his love. This may the most critical thing that Fans supporting Mew but not Art.
But on the other hand, as a straight, Art do not love male, the feeling and experience of Mew’s real kiss may make him feel scared or uncomfortable.
You know sometimes when you're in a situation you're in the moment and do things you'll regret later
wow. this whole situation is so messy. Well, I can only wish them all the best moving forward.
Here are my two cents on this entire situation. So, I came to know about MewxArt brawl through this video - I have watched "What the Duck" but I wasn't impressed on the cinematography so I didn't follow activities around it. So, starting with making a personal difference public is extremely dangerous because then you will have to risk revealing everything to your audience. If the onscreen couple had some problems behind the scenes, resolving those issues off the internet would have been a wise alternative.
My thoughts on Art getting more hate than Mew directs straight to the concept of the series. Where Art's character was unfaithful to Mew's character so there is a possibility that the fans' emotions got mixed up from reel to real and sent more hate on Art's way. It's sad if your character role-play has any flaw or straight up negative, the audience tends to perceive you in similar fashion in real life too. I have seen interviews of so many actors usually playing a vamp or villain being thrashed in public for a minimum to no reason at all but they are the sweetest ones you will ever come across.
I feel whatever Mew and Art had between them should have remained behind closed curtains until they were absolutely sure to reveal it themselves. Even if they came out to be a real couple, I would just be equally happy.
I hope the negative impact Art had from this backlash fades soon and he gets more roles because MEW-ART ship couldn't have been a hit if Art didn't work properly at all. He made us believe through his acting so he is a good actor,
This was a legendary fight! But i love them both alot. I hope that hate towards Art will stop. He is very lovely and cute.
Honestly I feel like this entire thing could’ve been avoided if Art would just shut Mews shit down. Don’t let him do it then days after confront him about it. Right there in that hotel room, in that moment he should’ve said “Hey! No! We just friends plug! Nothing more!” Them being angry at each other to the point of ruining careers wasn’t needed. Love em both stills but all that drama could’ve been avoided.
Hazell WilliamSpencer Or maybe when you notice your friend is in love with you instead of leading them on for the sake of your career you reject them privately and move on with it? I’m not saying Mew was right in kissing Art without his consent but the way these two were was beyond the scope of fan service and they both knew it, so one of them thought their feelings were reciprocated and the other turned another cheek instead of admitting there were no feelings there. And then he got kissed and realized maybe this went too far.
I agree with this, he should have shut him down early. But he was young and probably didn't know how else to deal with those situations.
Hazell WilliamSpencer First of this ain’t that deep for you to start cursing at me. Also yeah they both knew it was fanservice and it was helping their careers but they were both also fairly new to the industry. Fanservice was new to them and it’s fairly easy to fall in love or develop feelings for someone when you spend every day pretending to do so. Art knew Mew liked him romantically(he acknowledged it in his live), but instead of rejecting Mew, he let it keep going on because he was afraid of ruining their relationship therefore the ship and maybe their career. WTD wasn’t a great show and it was their fanservice as you said that made them and the show popular. So even though for Mew it was no longer about boosting their career for Art it was but Mew didn’t know that and that’s why I said Art led him on because that’s what he did, unintentionally then intentionally. Like someone below me said all this could’ve been avoided if Art had just been upfront with Mew. I’m not saying it’s all on Art it takes two to tango. They were both at fault but your first comment was just about Mew that’s why I made the one about Art. It was the both of them that caused the situation.
Tae's Wife i agree with you wholeheartedly. Even the fact that he was crying and so emotional in his live video is sending the wrong message that his emotions were involved more than he is saying. I totally don’t think there was sexual harassment here. How many guys ask before they kiss you? They go by your interactions with them to determine whether the feelings are mutual. Even if they aren’t mutual, when they try to kiss you, you tell them no and that you’re sorry if there was a misunderstanding and that’s that.
Art was young tho, Mew should've be the mature one between them.. He cannot just go off and kiss a boy coz he "thinks" they like each other.. 🤦♀️
I'm also a big fan of Mew, but that does not mean that what he did was ok. I can only imagine and understand (to a certain extent) of how he must've felt throughout the fight with Art, he probably would have felt very hurt but also anger, frustration and sadness. All those things I can also imagine for Art as well. Before I watched this video, when I was just starting to watch many Thai BL dramas (and still watch so many lmao) I had briefly heard of this fight between Mew and Art and at first I was on Mews side because the live that Art did (when he was 'outing' Mew) my reaction was similar to disappointment. I felt sorry for Mew but also for Art as well. If Mew did kiss him (coz us as the audience/fans we will never know the Full truth and All the details of the that particular situation b/w the actors) and Art didn't like it or was against it from the very beginning why didn't he say something (when it was happening)? Why didn't he push Mew off or showed rejection to him in that moment? I can understand that maybe Art may have been shocked, scared even (I'm probably using the wrong description, but those kind of feelings) and probably didn't know how to handle those kind of situations or What to do in those kind of situations. Either way, maybe what Mew did was wrong. However, after watching his video and hearing/seeing what Mew was tweeting from the beginning, I do feel that both Mew and Art should have handled the fight in private and I find it a little disappointing with the way that it was handled because it would've made a huge impact on not just their personal lives but their careers. I find it very heartbreaking that Art was getting all the blame, when really both Mew and Art were in the wrong. Whether it may be because of the pressure of fan service from fans (generally speaking) or just the matter of personal feelings itself, their fight would have taken a toll on both their careers and personal lives. Both of them were in the wrong but both Don't deserve such hate that mainly Art is receiving, they both deserve happiness in their personal lives and also a successful career. And I hope that both Mew and Art will find those things because they both deserve such great things.
What has happened occurred in the past, I'm sure both Mew and Art have both moved on from this and the public should too. We should be supporting both Art and Mew in future projects and wish them the best happiness and health. Love them both xoxox and Thank you for this video!!!! This would have definitely broaden some of the fans eyes, including mine xoxo
Good thing art do it. For mew not to settle for less(art) but gulf. We only want the best for mew. He really deserves gulf.
Thank you for putting all this information into one video :) I was wondering what some people were referring to and when I looked up what happened, I just got extremely biased information from both sides: hating Art, hating Mew, exaggerating and underplaying what happened.
Great video :)
I like how you described about the whole situation being stable and balanced,both of them are wrong but the ironic is one has got highly acclaimed and the other destroyed his career.
Thank you so much for making this video. Specially not for taking a part from one of the two actors. Its their private life.
I still love both of them ❤️
I appreciate how clear this explanation was because until this day I still had no idea what went down between them. But I think the reason why no one seemed to be taking Art's side was because he way he tried to defend himself was through outing Mew and more or less slandering him with things that he couldn't even show proof of. So i guess people took his approach negatively. But Mew isn't less guilty. The dude was just too open about what was going on between them to the point that Art felt like he was being cornered. His posts seemed too pushy but i guess that's just me. and from what I gather about Mew, he's really strict about work and has a short temper. I think he over-reacted when he went on to publicly state how Art had been late to filming. But then again, that is no reason for Art to just expose Mew like that. I guess this could've been avoided if they just sorted it out amongst themselves. It's just sad because Art also had promising talent. :(
Sounds like they were young, and allowed misunderstandings get too emotional.
I agree that this situation was messy all around and as much as I love mew, it’s clear (he even admitted) he has quite a temper on him. Both Mew and art "outed" and were "outed" in different ways - in Mew’s case his sexuality and in Art’s his "professionalism" so to say.
One thing I'm still confused about is why Art would bring up the kiss/drama with friends and out Mew when it had nothing to do with the situation at hand/what he was accused of. What was the reason of mentioning that part? Only thing I could come up with it is that maybe art felt like he needed something against Mew to "fight" back/counter with.
Also, people seem to forget that they both had barely any experience in show business and I’ve a feeling they still hadn't figured out how to manage their fame responsibly at the time. They were too open and honest, just like we normal ppl would get messy, vent and put our private business on our Twitter sometimes. But venting on a tl when hundreds of uninformed fans/public is involved is a clear recipe for disaster. Like art said in his livd fans we're starting to attack him so he felt like he had to defend himself and so he sadly aired all their dirty laundry, but in turn Mew couldn't/didn’t dismiss any of those rumours made.
For mew, prior to tharntype, there was a solo interview with TEP where he vaguely talks about this and it clear he regrets what went down and he seems quite self-reflected. Since then, we and art started following each other again and it feels like they both agreed to forgive and forget and move on.
Yes. And I think they didn't know how to deal with BL fan service... it can be confusing to a newcomer. But Mew never fought back. He decided to stay silent after Art's video. I think that both were very immature in how they handled the situation and all those twitter comments, very immature. However, Mew took the mature route afterwards by not fighting back and staying silent and not bashing Art. I didn't know he followed Art again after the TEP interview but they both seem to have moved on and be in a better place now.
Oh that's another thing I picked up with Mew he appears to be a bit conteolliñ/possessive and I think it manifested a lot WITH Art in contrast with Gulf as Mew has grown and matured a bit he's less angry and more "sulky". I hope that means he has truly grown and deals with his anger issues
Ramona Flowers I feel like he learned from the situation (that almost cost him his and art’s career) and that unreflected/ emotional decisions will only end in disaster.
From things he says now, it seems he has grown a lot. He’s more responsible and much more private than he used to. He also appears to set up more boundaries, stay professional/business only.
All round he just seems more mature.
@@ramonaflowers2813 I think that Mew's possessiveness might also be because his feelings were probably not corresponded by Art, and he was immature enough to step back. Instead he'd express possessiveness trying to hold Art at all costs. Plus on a TEP interview he said he was cheated on most of his relationships. But now as you say, with Gulf he seems to have matured a lot and I think that some of his sulkiness/possessiveness towards Gulf now is playful for the fans and not true possessiveness. Also him and Gulf seem to have a totally different relationship than what he had with Art, better dialogue and mutual love (whatever kind that is) and respect. They're on the same page.
I remember Art saying something about fans getting to his "mother", so I think that was the last straw that just escalated into this uncontrollable rant. Plus people started attacking him, so I think he felt the need to bring out the ammo
I agree absolutely with everything. We don't really know anything, especially since we only knew Art pov, but at that time (and even know) I was also so shocked to see all the people defending Mew as if he did nothing wrong at all... I myself have this thing where I tend to always take first the "victim" side, in this case, I was (am) a Mew fan but even being one I chose to trust Art's testimony first... After it all cleared up a bit, judging by what we can only guess happened, I could see what they both did wrong, and now I agree with everything you said. But yeah, it shocked me to see since the very very begging people calling Art a 'liar that only wanted fame' and stuff like that...
THANK YOU for this video...It's painful how some sick people just jump into conclusion without finding out what really happened. These days I'm tired of fighting. Lord knows Art didn't and still doesn't deserve this kind of hate.
You know I kinda feel like I understand this better coz there was a person who showed me all the right signals and like after some months I kissed them. They kissed back and legit said they regretted it. I don't hate art but then, art should've talked to mew about this. He shoulda told mew that he doesn't feel anything. I'm not blaming art but he should've told it. Anddd both of them shouda had a heart to heart convo. Its their life and its all in the past. I have no right to say this but still its just my opinion. And it shatters your heart when people do what art did to mew. I just hope they're okay. Idk but I feel like Asian entertainment industries are slowly becoming toxic, its starting to consume itself.
As someone who wasn't yet a foreign drama fan when all this happened, this was very informative and unbiased. Thank you for the video!
Thank you so much for posting this in a calmer fashion than the other videos available. All I knew was the “Mew kissed Art and then Art handled it publicly” thing. Thank you for allowing myself and others to hear more facts (even if they’re claims, it’s background information)
As soon I start watch TT in October, everybody talking about this situation. And I know only one side of the story, where Art is villain. I don’t really care about what happened between actors, I just enjoy the show. But couple weeks ago I stumbled upon the comments of fans who told the whole story, and I was surprised by the childish behavior of both actors. I would understand if they were 18 year old boys, but they are adults, they are in big business, and they will behave so irresponsibly. All I wish for Art is good career, because as we can see, Mew is very famous now, so no need, I think his career will be ok.
This whole situation was an absolute mess. While it's clear that there is a shit ton we don't know about it, they both could have handled it very differently. They both caused some damage to each other.
I personally think mew got a bit more burned coz his feelings were involved. Before being an actor, he's human.
It must have been devastating to find out that the person you like told the entire world how you made a move on them and that they kissed you back only out of pity. To get rejected that blatantly in front of everyone must have broken mew's heart.
Of course they both had to endure a lot of shit careerwise. But I'm glad that it's over and buried in the past. I hope they both can move on from this fiasco
Thank you for this video explaination, I was MewArt shippers back then, and I know everything happen between both of them.. Both are doing mistake, if you follow them, you can tell both A and M, always fighting, Mew unfollow A then follow back at IG.. What can I said, maybe both of them had a feeling toward each other but its become toxic since Mew be possessive, once Art post wish his bestfriend birthday, with a photo Art kiss his friend cheeks, then Mew post at IG story shading Art like Art cheat on him.. If you watch the fancam video of MewArt you can tell Mew sometimes be possessive.. While Art be childish..
Honestly, past is past but hope Mew learn from past mistake, hope dont took much fanservice with current ship but I believe Gulf can handle it profesionally..
For Mewgulf shipper or Mew new fans, please if you dont know the real story between MewArt, dont judge Art like he was evil man.. Bashing Art, even some of them comment harsh on Art IG post.. Let Art breath, he just mind his own bussiness..
Lastly, hope both of them be successful in future, I can see Mew already had establish career, hope Art gonna be catch up too.. Art acting really good , he has potential..
Long story short you said what i wanted to say!! They keep bashing p'art as if they know what relationship they had.
They'll continue their journey and we'll always support them!!
They both deserve better for their acting skills!!
I'm happy I'm learning these issues from an unbiased vlog. I'm new into Thai dramas. And I'm just thankful that it helps o watch your videos. Thanks!
Seeing this and I’m like “ow, someone brought it up again” and then I watched it.. as the video goes further, the more I understand the situation back then. This video is great 👍
I followed this drama at the time happening, i neverrr tought that mew tweets were real, i always thoight it was becouse the shipa nd the series bwcouse in the series they had a toxic relationship...but Art tweets were the one that made me believe it was real... then my oponion both were wrong but art i think took it tooo far by outing mew, and i will always think art just have hope mew to then just letting him go couse i dont think mew will act like that just with one side love.... stillll i dont think people should hate art or mew... i am more in the mew side but still fallow art and will souport both. Couse mistakes are for humans. They both learnt about it
honestly you never know what those people are going through, they should stop forcing them to do fan service just to please an audience
they could literally be heartbroken and have to go on stage to act like a couple which isn't their job