It’s a shame because Perth and saint had such good chemistry and were beloved by everyone. They seemed like really good friends and now they never see each other
Actually i am loving him too. . He is mature actor now and very expressive and he and zee is killing it ..they have very strong chemistry never seen such chemistry in any bl couple not only in reel life but also in real life... 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
To be honest Saint has been through a lot and he's only 22, he lost his father when he was in high school and on his birthday, that literally destroyed my heart. he wanted to be a monk but he needed money so that's why he moved to Bangkok, auditioned for roles until he got casted in LBC, imagine not being able to promote with the others, and facing what the manager said at only 19 years old. I'm so thankful he didn't give up and keeps working on acting (loved why r u and can't wait for LFG), he has a new popcorn business, AND he is in university right now majoring in economics (I think he graduates this year). Plus he has the greatest personality and everyone around him has said it, please please keep supporting this beautiful angel 🙏❤
I personally feel like Perth’s managers took advantage of how young Perth and Saint were, Saint was 19 and Perth was 17. What is a 17 year old supposed to know, it was also his first acting gig. This is just my opinion
I only watched “Love by Chance” because of Saint. Won’t be watching season 2 without him. Saint did a great job in the R U series. Looking forward to his Let’s Fight Ghosts movie.
Saints roll in Love by chance, seemed like the character had a mental Disability, it was very hard to watch him being manipulated, and put in those situations. Saints character in WHYRU is intelligent, and acts like an adult, who isn't being manipulated
They said so ,that manager of him is not good I have watched a youtuber who rants about his manager's attitude about telling Perth not to talk to Saint .
@@martinikorjo5317 I don't want that to happen...They are happy now...I can't watch saint get hurt again by those people who around Perth.... You can think that I'm evil...that won't hurt me... because I love baby 🐰...
I'm just happy Saint found a real friend and supporter in Zee. You can just see how comfortable he is with the Why R U cast. Saint and Perth can just both be successful in their own path, obviously they're not in contact anymore but I think after everything it's the best for Saint. I just hope Perth escape those toxic adults around him because he seems to have a bunch of terrible people within his management team.
@@Blulagam yes and if ever it happen, they will be wild again if Saint will be partner to other at the second time. And what about Zaintsee shippers? They will getting wild too. Sorry my mind is in the future. Lol
Thats what got the manager super jealous of him. Coz he knows, with that look and talent he can go higher with just a blink. He was scared that Saint will be above everyone from the cast especially Perth. But it is inhumane to fight like that. Even if it is a competition, i believe Perth can fight this battle himself morally .. Because at that time they're just kids. They are trying new thing. Made friends, had fun. But this jerk turn it like a survival game.
Saint went through heavy struggles just like Mew. But look at where they are now? Saint is very happy with Zee just like Mew is with Gulf. Just proves that no matter how hard people will try to drag you down, there will always be someone who will be there for you and help you stand back again. Destiny? Perhaps. All I can say is that THAT IS GENUINE LOVE ya all. ❤
@@tobehuman5226 true. It challenged them to be strong and look where they are now :) and don't worty I'm also older than perth and also haven't had my 1st kiss yet 😆
The funny thing is that in the end saint came out stronger than ever. I mean he's literally one of the most ( if not the) beloved bl actors. He's literally made himself a known person by just being himself. Not only that, but he's both beautiful on the inside and outside ( not to mention he could literally be successful with just his looks alone. He was nominated for being one of the most handsome faces in the world) I'm happy that saint seems better and happier now and I look forward to more of him in the future because he's still so young and has a lot ahead of him.
Actually, this was a drama that blew out of all proportion... Perth said he wanted to try acting in other sorts of genres too, but a lot of fans are portraying it as him saying he never wanted to do BL ever again (not true). Mean, on the other hand, did say he never wanted to do another BL, so people are lumping the two together.
I didn't know all the facts. It went too far ! Saint reprised his role in Tharntype, though. It was really nice of him to accept :) I was so happy to see Pete again.
That is because TharnType was produced by a different company, it was produced by P'Mame herself, the author of LBC and TharnType under the name Me Mind Y, while LBC was produced by Studio Wabi Sabi. The two shows were also directed by different directors.
its differents all of the producers, @also no matters what humor , be strong I believePerth@Saint innocent ,Is not fault Perth or saint? look at Perth ? he try himself to be fine
Perth is just a kid. Hopefully there's someone who can help him out of the toxic adult environment around him. Hope both Perth and Saint do well in their own ways.
I’m just done watching Why Ru the series, and I never thought that Saint had this problem before, but still he fight that problem, and now has a good partner, Zee.
It *R E A L L Y* sucks that PerthSaint's entire friendship was destroyed bc of Perth's dumbass manger. Perth and Saint both are amazing ppl from what I've seen. They just wanted to act and their managers had to go and fuck with each other. And I especially feel so bad for Saint. Getting called a slut just so another actor can be promoted better? Absolutely not. I'm so happy that he got cast in Why R U. He looks so comfortable and happy with the cast. Zee is really supportive. I hope Perth did actually get better managers bc that boy didn't deserve to deal with that. In the end, I still absolutely love Saint and Perth. Both are amazing actors who I hope continue to thrive 💙
My only issue is Perth was attacked and he was only 17 years old. He was a child. It seems like everyone forgot about that or the fact he supported Saint as much as he could. I don’t like what happened to either one not but why did a child get attacked and is still carrying the weight of adult actions. There is more to the story I am sure but I am sure it will not be told. Saint is doing well and I am happy for him. He is a showman. Perth will be fine because this Young Man has remained positive and Focused never speaking a negative word. One more thing when he turned 18 he gave Saint his total support. Think about it and remember. Again wishing both well but NothingbutLove for my 🐯. This is my option no offense to anyone. My prayers are with you. Whatever is going on I wish you well
👍 couldn't have said more well .. do you expect a kid to fight with his manager or what ever authority .. biggest thing was he stayed with saint even through all this 💔 saint himself said Perth stood with him all this time... But yet all Perth get is hate for what adults did. There is so much story in this I feel both managers are at fault it's not only Perth manager fault .. because if saint manager was so good why did saint fire him later on.. old manager created mess and then everything was going well and suddenly manager is fired and after few months many issues kept coming... But still all hate goes to Perth... imagine 17 yr old kid go through so much hate from fans , insult to him , his family his friends , his looks everything ... The burden he must have felt.
What is more ashamed is beacuse perth obviously didnt want to be joined in the managements drama and also since he was still young during those issues thinking about how perth was going through is painful we all know how much he loved his p and care about him but because of his managers stupid actions he cant seem to speak about because we can feel he was ashamed of what his managements did and during thos time that his management was still controling him it would be a bad image for him i feel so sorry for saint though he was the best actor he was brought out to this tragic drama of both management i cant seem to budge why perth's management would want to just make his stars famous i mean saint is also making them equally famous it isnt just the fact that they are in one management that isnt a reason lets just see how perth is being in trauma of what his manager did but i wished perth and saint would still be brothers to each other when they had such a good chemistry...trigon was such a hit.. Lets just dont hate anyone of them.. and lets continue showing live and support to them Remember they taught us love so we give them love.. #Perthsaint #Trigon4ever ☺️
Perth also human being, he also feel hopeless and sorrowful all this time.. Being threated unfair, hatred, insulted by nonsenses rumour endleslly.. But this young boy still stand smile widely to always give positive spirit to others.. Never to complain nor to burden. How can this boy being so tough from all that happens surround him all the time.. Keep moving on perth, you're talented, deserves to be happy too 🙏
I'm happy now that he found Zee and they really have a strong chemistry too! He literally grow in that series, seeing different Saint their! Am still wishing to have Why R U season 2!
perth was so young i was really surprised! he must have been 16 when they filmed this. the kind of mental fortitude that you need to have in this industry is no joke honestly so i wish him all the best.
This video made me think of when Saint cried at a fan meeting and said how he read all the comments, knew about everything (meaning he 100% knew about all the defamation and all the hate that was spread about him), disappeared from the spotlight because he was struggling and lost motivation to continue acting, questioned himself, questioned if he was making the right choice, and questioned if anyone would still love and support him. Luckily, Zee was there to tell all the crying fans that he was going to support Saint himself,. I'm sad that he barely has any contact with anyone from LBC except for maybe Mean and Earth (at least publicly), but I'm happy that he has found a new family with the Why R U cast and seems really happy! And I wish Perth the best of luck; he's such a young and talented kid, and it's horrible that he was caught in the crossfire because of petty and childish adults
Okay now I love Saint even more. I can't imagine the struggle having your name and reputation ruined like that. I watched LBC but never involved in any shipping of the series. Now I'm glad he's in a happy and successful path.
I'm still pretty new to thai bls, but i'm so glad i got into ZeeSaint first before having known PerthSaint. I understand that Perth most likely didnt even know what was happening or was not given a choice to meddle but their fans must've been so devastated during this whole thing. I'm just so happy that Saint was able to clear his name and i'm hoping that Perth truly has better managers now.
It was basically one of my first Thai Bl's. At least worth remembering. 😉 And I still love it and rewatching some part's now and then. So I'm a bit sad... Lbc 2 without Saint. But we Fans had wished so desperately for a second season. 😍 Still I hope for a cameo. This video gives me the answer of what happened back then, bc I didn't understood.
I am actually perthsaint fans before, but because what happened, like "some" Perth fans and perthsaint leave saint alone, i leave my perthsaint and move too zeesaint 🥰
I’m sorry but that’s just messed up, Saint did nothing wrong he was just trying to enjoy his role in Love by Chance. I think it’s good that Saint is not in Love by Chance season 2. This way Saint is avoiding a lot more drama that could happen in season 2. Saint also looks happier in the Why R U series anyways.
I feel Saint is happy now and he is surrounded by nice ppl. And I want that stupid reporters to stop asking about why he will not be in LBC2. Like what the hell na? That evil ppl did horrible things to him and he said noone called him for season 2 yet those idiots still asking him about LBC2 🙄
This is such a difficult question to answer I feel sooo bad for Saint who had to go through all of the drama and yet had to act brave in front of the camera when LBC S2 is mentioned😭
I'm sorry but I'm still don't know what happened between Perth and Saint...I don't understand what the girls said and I'm sorry but can someone tell me exactly what happened until Saint's fan attack him??And what about his relationship with Perth??
@@yutasbestfriend2656 Have you watch LBC(Lovebychance series) if not then it is where perth and Saint become related to each other... They were couple in that series but in the period of lbc both manegers have problems to each other BUT NOT perth and saint. Tell now they were in Good Terms.. Sad part is they get to separate after LBC 1 Because of manegers issue
That's so sad. Spreading rumors about a kid? I hope that guy never gets hired again because that's completely unprofessional and disgusting. If you don't know how to stay professional and manage your people fairly then find another job.
So basically Perth’s manager spread rumors about Saint and now Perth and saint aren’t really friends anymore? I’m so confused by this situation somebody needs to summarize for me😂
Bisharo Abdi that manager wanted his other actor on the serie (Mark i think) for that he wanted Saint out but Sain't did not let that happend (of course), So Perth's manager went on spreading rumors about Saint being a prostitute to old man and that is also why he got the place in the serie. People believed that and they started to hate on Saint realy bad. I hope that was clear for you
Sooo we lost a cute ship all because their managers decided to be little kids? I’m beyond outraged they need new ones that will actually do their job and not ruin their actors 😑
Saint had addressed in a show regarding his friendship with Perth and thankfully they're still very much in touch with each other, he also stated that the adults around them were the problems at the time. I read somewhere that Perth management wanted an actor under their agency to act as Pete but Saint got the role instead, maybe that's why Perth management did what they did to Saint. He did explained some things about his meltdown with Zee in the same show. Now that Perth signed under GMMTV I really hope he will get a better chance as his acting is very good. As for Saint he's a CEO of his company now and I will keep on supporting them together.
I know about this mess already but not this detailed. Knowing about it more really broke my heart even more. Everything was so fucked up. Saint doesn't deserve to go through this kind of shit. Remember on his first FM with Zee, he was crying and saying that he was honestly feeling discouraged and was about to give up (his career) because of how much it affected him. He was afraid that people would leave him. And when he said "I just want to make people happy and i was afraid that continuing this (acting career) will not make people happy anymore. That's why i've been thinking whether to continue or not. Idk if people still want it or not." i was sobbing so hard. And through that clip i can hear some fans are crying hard. Imagine unreasonably and stupidly attacking someone who has a sincere soul like him. That's utterly horrible. But no worries, he's a versatile and talented actor. He's the epitome of 'universal chemistry' cause he can be paired with just anyone and with whatever character he should play, and he will undoubtly nail it. He will shine even brighter with his own talents. Let's support him and whatever decision (project and all) he's taking. I'm sorry for my long rambling. I'm honestly once again being emotional here. ㅠ____ㅠ
Can't imagine it's happening in Thailand It's is a big shame .to this mangers who on serious works destroying other career they should know their are destroying their's too.if saith is out that will be the start of thier career downfalls
Damn i knew it was bad but i didn’t know it was that bad if i was saint I wouldn’t do season 2 and would avoid the project and the actors completely i mean the mangers tried so hard to break Saint that just heartless and a bs apology you should be on your knee apologizing to Saint
I am glad Saint is not part of LBC 2. He deserves much better...if I was Saint I would drag that manager to court and file case against him. Saint is really kind he didn't take any legal action against that idiot manager.
I guess this is also the reason why Perth doesn't want to take any BL acts, as of now and focus on another goal at hand, while he's positive and focus, he's still a child carrying a certain burden because of some adult's jealousy over a certain actor.. Thinking that Saint is a hindrance for Perth's success.. Hate people who thinks that way.. Felt sad about this, coz I dont have any idea about the issue, I just wanted to see them okay at least together without the awkwardness.. Thank you for sharing this matter with us, who doesn't have any idea about their situation..
I hope someone take legal actions towards to managers, because they made the apology AFTER ruining someone, or the series, so what they say doesn't matter anymore
After watching this, I love Saint more! Happy that he got Zee now and he looks happy with Zee. Saint has a good heart, you can tell because he's involved with different charitable events. I hope Saint stays happy...
Oh my god, my heart literally breaks for Saint. I really can't believe this happened to him- like I can't even register it, it's that horrible. I'm sooo glad he's with the Why R U cast now, especially with Zee being a total sweetheart and the two boys supporting each other. And I feel terrible for Perth too because he was literally just a kid- it must have been terrifying to be in this situation and to not know what to do. This is honestly the most ridiculous situation ever. I just hope Saint gets through this and gets to wherever he wants to be in his career (which no doubt he will because he's MAAAD talented). I really hope nothing like this happens again with any actors.
‘Love by chance’ Is the reason I honestly started watching & loving Thai BL. AePete were so sweet & loving, you could not help falling I love with them. Perth & Saint are young, yet both have so much talent & charisma. I’m glad they did not let the actions of others break them. I hope that they could remain friends & maybe one day work together again 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
I am quite shocked since its been two years since I watched LBC and I was so confused on why Perth and Saint never acknowledged each other like they did before. This is my first time knowing what truly happened and I feel so bad for them :(( I hope they can become friends again in the future with none of these issues...
ryo ryo Dong worry let me clear out the info cuz it is a bit confusing. In the video above it is saying that it was Perth’s Manager that manipulated others through false info about Saint in which Saints Manger began to defend Saint against these false rumours being spread by Perth’s Manager!
Perth's management wanted Saint to leave his management and sign with Attractor. That way they would get all the money. Perth could not speak because Attractor banned all actors from speaking to Saint. They then ran Perth into the ground with appearances during his first year of school until he ended up in the hospital. I did not know that Perth backed out of LBC2 though he said he will now be doing no BL. He was not going to be in a couple in LBC. The only way he could avoid it was begging publicly not be coupled again after Saint. They really did his head in.
Sonea T yeh it his his last tho isn’t it and omg I didn’t know that they this to Perth. Perth and saint deserve better if only the freaking manager could not be an asshole none of this would have happened they ruined Perth and saint brother relationship
I love love Saint!!!! He is a wonderful actor and he deserved so much more. I’m glad he overcame that issue and I will continue to support every project he does forever!
Knowing that Perth's management wanted to replace Saint with Mark kind of makes me wonder about the casting of The Stranded and how much the management had say in their roles. Not that it was a bad casting but since they ended up as a couple in The Stranded it just makes me curious as to how that happened and if the casting team knew about what happened with Love By Chance.
This truly infuriated me I cant believe this happened to such young kids I detest grown adults that prey or use these young men to further their careers. I feel for Perth being in such a disgusting drama but I feel more for Saint having his name sullied so and if in fact this situation was true that would make Saint a victim he was underaged that manager needs to lose all his clients. And the apology only came when LBC2 was sbeing promoted how disgusting. I'm glad Saint has gotten success with Why RU his acting is great and he seems happy I hope he is. This also makes me understand why Saint never features pictures of Zee on his ig he is being careful. I feel for this boy.
I've never seen the other series that Saint plays in(I think it's called 2gether?), but I've seen why r u and Zee and Saint have such a sincere bond. I don't understand why anyone would blame Zee for supporting Saint. They have such a genuine feeling and are both great actors. I don't know what happened but I believe Saint deserves happiness. Is it a good idea to watch the other series(I'm asking to know if I should watch it)?
@@tyrarohbock1774 he is not in 2 gether he is featured briefly in Tharntype but he is not in any other series besides Why R U he is in a short with Zee called truth or Dare though
@@ramonaflowers2813 Thank you for clearing that up for me! :) So Saint isn't in any other dramas or Zee isn't? Saint is always going to be one of my favorite actors!
Let’s not forget that there’s still some perthsaint shippers that is still attacking saint even after such a long time. even cursing at zee just because saint is a couple with him right now 🤦🏻♀️
Today only in twitter I have reported like 6 acc that was spreading lies and really bad comments about Saint and Zee... Also, is really sad that many fans of Perth are promoting 2gether not because they like it if not because they want to put it hard for Saint's series to success..... ek.
Even though Perth and Saint was a cute couple people shouldn't be blaming Zee for being with Saint, all that matter's is that Saint is happy and have someone to help through all the things he's going through it shouldn't matter who Saint date's as long as he is happy. I wouldn't be cursing about Zee being a couple with Saint the people I would cursing at is the people who was hurting Saint.
What i admire about Perth and Saint is that after all those issues and dramas they are still following each other on different social media platforms like Instagram and Twitter which basically means what u said is true that they never had any personal beef with each other.
I honestly believe that the past situations made Saint a lot stronger as a person and as an actor. I love his acting in LBC but he is way more mature and bold in Why R U. Im still sad that Saint wont be in LBC season 2 but i know he will be successful and he is happy in Why R U now. 😍
This makes me sad. LBC is the first bl series that I watch and my fav. But right now I see Saint that he is happy with Zee and comfortable with. But my PerthSaint heart is crying. 💔
@@kyleundi9893 yes.. I don't know if it will ever happen, but if they were to work together again without all the drama and with professional managers and such, I'll be the happiest person in the world
I’m really glad Saint is happier now with the Domundi boys and WhyRU. No drama with the other management and the boys are super supportive of him. 🥺💖 They are very much a huge family! also I’m super grateful to Zee who stood by Saint through all the chaos and took a lot of hate for it, but never let anything get between them! Not even toxic Pinson shippers. I wish Perth the best, I really do, but I’m glad Saint has moved on from this.
I considered it a blessing in disguise. Of course i didn't want any of these for Saint he doesn't deserve any of it but everything that has happened directed Saint to Zee and i couldn't be anymore thankful.
Thank you so much for explaining what went on with Perth and Saint. I have just binge watched both series and was totally confused as to why Saint never appeared in S2, especially at the end with that message. It is so sad when artists management gets involved and tries to ruin reputations. These are young kids with their whole careers in front of them. Give them a break, please.
I am really happy that Saint is still smiling after going through this dark phase. He is a versatile talent. No matter what project he choses, I will always support that Kid. Stay blessed baby Saint 🤞
Actually I already know about this... But not this detailed. I felt so sorry for Perth and Saint 🥺💔 Edit: I still want them to be friends tho... But maybe I can't see it in the near future 😭
this is sad really, these boys are such good friends in real life, to be torn like that by people who just doesnt care of anything other than business really enraged me.
All we need to do if we love Saint is to support him. I'm glad that Saint gaining his popularity with WHYRU. Hope he will always maintain his spirit in acting like what he said, he wants to bring happiness to the fans and the viewers, no matter what kind of film is it, he just wants to perform. So now it's time for us to spread WHYRU, gain views and support the cast, especially Saint and P'Zee. We feel sorry, but the past is just the past . :)
saint is such an incredible actor and person he is such a strong person hes been though so much i truely enjoy all his work and i hope he has many years of success to come
I am really really happy that Saint finally found another family who cares about him so so much. Specially Zee. I can see Zee really protects him and wanted him to be happy, being the one that's the eldest among them, I'm really glad Zee is really making Saint happy. Saint is a strong boy, he deserve more love from his friends and us fans. I want nothing but to see this young boy have his smile always. Forever supporting them.
I think what pains me as a fan of both of them, is that Perth is a kid. He’s 17, shoved into a toxic drama between two different managements, and I doubt he was allowed to say anything on the matter. And I can’t even imagine how awful Saint must feel, even to this day. I wish they were friends still. I’m also glad Saint didn’t give up his acting career and pushed forward despite I’m sure the fear of pushing forward. Also I want to thank Zee in this as well, because apparently he helped Saint through the whole thing and stood by his side, (which is probably why they have good chemistry in their drama 😅) And give Perth credit too while we’re out here. Despite not having a voice, (again guessing he wasn’t allowed one,) he forced himself to get a voice and dropped his manager, which in his own way, was standing up for Saint the only way he knew out. What his manager did was a so awful and resulted in a broken friendship which sucks to see. They were clearly really close to each other.
It is refreshing to see people stick-up for Perth, on other videos site, I have read some awful things they said about Perth. I am wondering if there was gag order in place with his company, where he could not talk, like you mentioned.
I remember when the series was airing Saint would do solo reactions to have at least some interaction with the fans since he never attended events with the rest of the cast, knowing about the situation now and remembering that really breaks my heart... The worst part is that when people took sides they would attack one of the kids (not just P and S but Mark and the other casts who were also controlled by management and could not speak out about the situation) when they've done nothing wrong and shouldn't pay for the adult managers' mistakes... What hurts the most is that they seemed to have a beautiful friendship, coming in this industry and having their first acting breakout and achieving success together and that friendship was ruined... Fuck Perth's manager, fuck him very much
@@archanashinde1764 you do know they were probably bound by contracts and to break them before they ended would not be easy for them, right? Unfortunately they must've had to wait until they ended so they could finally be free, please don't direct your anger towards the wrong people
And what's more heartbreaking and all is that Saint insisted on joining the cast of WHY R u the series when they reacted to ep. 1 despite his busy schedule. And just seeing him there with everyone and smiling broke my heart 😭💔
I can't deny the fact that I once loved pethsaint but right now I prefer Zee more than peth it just feels like zee has created a new version of Saint he's acting skills has improved so much and you can just feel the passion in him. Just like mewart and mewgulf you can feel the changes in them
I was so sad when I knew that Saint isn’t participating LBC S2 but now I understand why. Their chemistry is so perfect but now I’ll just accept the fact that I can’t see them together again. My poor PerthSaint heart.
I just started watching thai bl so I had no idea. Your video was informative and not boring at all. Looking forward mew and art vid. I did hear something about that but all videos I found were people drooning and rambling on and on and on until I just gave up. I do NOT care enought to watch 20 mins worth of nonsensical babbling. Yours will be welcome!
Thank you for clearing the air for those of us who never knew what went on. I feel bad for both of the boys. Too bad I'm not that hyped to watch LBC sn2. Maybe ill watch it but in the mean time, i will continue supporting Saint
Although it's very upsetting that such a bond had to be lost between two friends I think the fact that they are now separated is the best for their careers. I do hope that they contact e/o behind the screen but keeping a professional relationship is absolutely impossible after what the both of them were forced to go through. I only wish both of then success in their careers😊
I'm just now hearing about this..and seriously I can't believe that they could do something soo cruel to saint , saint is soo kind and cute and does not deserve to be downgraded just because of the managers bad...this really threw me for a loop but I am glad that saint was able to play In whyru I truly love that show ,whyru is the first bl couple I watched and I love them soo much I will continue to support saint❣
That was effin' surprising! 😭😭 I've been wanting to see them both in season 2 but the reason it's now crystal clear as to why Saint is not on the trailer. I feel really bad for N'Saint. Thank you for letting us all know about this feud 💔😭
I am actually so pissed about the f$cking managers! These two had such a great freindship and they just ruined it. But I am so glad that Saint didnt gave up, went through everything and is now doing so much better! He has my greatest respect!
perth manager doesnt have a right to cause any harm actions against saint..i guess the management should do something to protect saint's personal and private matters...perth's managers are rude and very unprofessional ..well whatever they said against saint it doesnt matter cause we love Saint😜
Thank you so much for explaining things in a pretty clear cut way, and even though you had an opinion, you tried to lay out the story as best you could. A lot of new fans may not know the story, but I remember when Saint was alone, and it broke my heart that the other boys didn’t speak out or up for him. That’s when I decided to throw my full support behind this guy. And when Zee came into the picture, here was someone who would be in his corner, no matter the pressure or attacks. Finally he wasn’t alone again. And the DomundiTV boys seem to have adopted. Saint as their younger brother, thus giving him a working family again.
Another question, though it may not be one you want to get into, and if so, i completely understand. There was a lot of talk about the two actors being in a relationship outside of friends and coworkers. Do you feel that this was just fans shipping the two of them? And if so, did the toxicity of the fandom when the two parted play into the fact that Saint wasn’t asked to be in LBC 2? I know that there were many “fans” who were angry at Saint for distancing himself. I felt very sad for Saint during this time. I honestly wish both he and Perth all the success because they are both talented, and work hard. Feel free to delete or ignore. I just wondered what your opinion was because you seem very thorough and rational, looking at both sides of an issue before speaking. Thanks again.
Jen H43 Perth and Saint weren’t ever in a relationship as more than just friends or coworkers. Saint saw Perth as a younger brother he wanted to take care of but Perth became different overtime, fame got to him and his company.
TrueFan4EverBACK thank you, i thought that was the case, but some people seemed convinced, so i thought I would ask. honestly i am a huge Saint fan for his positivity and his commitment to the community, and his caring nature. He seems happy now, and Perth seems to have moved on from their friendship too, but I don’t get why fans just cant support who they like without dragging down former acting partners or friends. Makes me sad to see hate thrown saint and zee’s way because of some bad fans. But i guess that’s the case in every fandom. I would much rather support people and just keep silent about those i don’t follow than to spread negative vibes. Hopefully when lbc2 comes out, saint wont get dragged again because he will be busy promoting lets fight ghosts, so maybe just maybe the fandom will turn their eye to praise their favs instead of dragging others. 🤞
Jen H43 People forget that fanservice is done on purpose to basically give more entertainment and happiness to fans and to promote their couple. Doesn’t mean it’s bad to do it as long as the actors are okay with it, but fans don’t seem to understand this concept. So many fans got delusional when it came to Perth and Saint. Because fans just see them as a product, don’t see them as 2 different people just doing their job as entertainers. Especially as actors they will have other partners, it’s common sense. But they are so stuck in their crazy ways they just don’t let it go. I hope one day they can.
Thank you for this video. It was educational and much appreciated. I do hope that Perth and Saint can become friends again if even they choose to go different paths career wise. Certainly, they both were put in a difficult position, especially Perth and the others under the same management. How much authority do they have? Managers have lots of strings they could pull to manipulate actors, especially those who are much younger and getting their start.
This video was very informative because I knew it was drama between Perth and Saint’s managers but I didn’t know exactly what went down. Thank you for making this🙂
i honestly love saint even more now for not giving up and standing up on his feet again , after all that shit im glad his new family(whyru cast and crew) r treating him well like he deserve and im happy to see him happy with zee im thankful for zee for being there for him and taking care of him❤
But one most of the important thing right now is Saint is Happy now and I’m happy for him because his series now is really awesome and I love him more now!
I recently watched WHY RU and I never knew why people were gossiping about Saint all the time. I get it now. Personally, I feel so bad for what he went through since it’s not fair at all. I’m so glad that he is better now and associating with people that actually make him comfortable
It’s been years after this, and I’m still heartbroken bc they couldn’t work together anymore 😿💕, they had such a great chemistry also love by chance was my first BL serie and the one that start everything for me, we all still support both actors also send all our love and support 💕
I don't really get Perth's manager for doing that. He's very irresponsible and inhumane where the hell did he get that statement to throw at saint? Saint is well off, has a nice loving mother and family I'm not claiming anything but this man is decent why would he be caught in that sort of things. Perth and Saint clearly had nothing to do with this and it breaks my heart that even until now Saint couldn't even wish Perth a happy birthday, follows each other on ig but completely ignores each other. It's like their still carrying this burden brought up by their managers that they can't even do anything to fix. I'm happy for Perth with his Why r u fam but this issue had been the reason why lbc would not feel complete. I love how Saint was very matured whenever he's interviewed about this stuff and is straightforward about answering questions involving Perth. I just wish these two good careers even separately.
Saint is doing very well and I hope the managers gets the KARMA they deserve. Thanks for explaining why they stopped. I feel sorry for Saint being targeted that way. I admire his professionalism and integrity as an actor. I wish Perth Success as well but my heart goes to SAINT in this rift.
I just felt pity for my baby saint 😢 TBH I wanna go to Thailand and give saint a warm hug and tell him that he is worthy and tell him that he is strong enough to handle this drama and do it professionally and Lastly tell him that I love him and I do support him where ever he will go through 😍❤
I've kept hearing bit by bit of the story of the managers about Perth and Saint. So I just want to thank you for the incredible update. I love watching Perth and Saint, and I will continue to support them both
They still follow each other on Instagram, maybe they are still friends behind the scenes? I am so thankful to you for making this video because Saint is, still today, getting hate and he does not deserve any of it. Looking forward to the Mewart video.
I cannot for all the understanding in the world could believe someone could hurt a pure, innocent being such as Saint. I have been following his works and I've never heard of this, simply because I am just focusing in his works and not the "dramas" that's happening within their entertainment industry. I was really confused why there are no Perth/Saint videos and why is there no more series with the two of them. It pains me to imagine that Saint went through all this and even lost his friendship with Perth but I am so grateful of where he is now. I can see his videos with Zee and with the WRU series. And I can see that he's happy and in such a better place now. I love him so much, he's my baby, apart from my ultimate baby Gun (hehe). So yeah, now I'm upset and it's almost 2 am, how can I sleep. 😭
Dear Moonconsort , thank you very much for standing for truth.It is undoubted , after your explanation of Perth Saint conflict, many were enlightened and came to support Saint. Your articulation of the issue and the information arranged in order to support the issue extremely well. I salute you for your desire to present the incident as it is and without contradiction. Our Saint is now shining , and moving forward much faster . I pray for Perth and his future too. It is very clear you cannot berry the truth , rather the truth will liberate us. May God Continue to bless Saint and Moonconsort.
literally just finished love by chance and was so excited to see that there'd be a season 2, but got confused when i didn't see pete. fast forward to me looking up the actors and stumbling onto this mess :-( i'm so sad that this happened to saint, but i'm happy to hear (from the comments on this video) that he's doing better! i'll definitely check out his other works and support him!
they're both still following each other on Instagram though, so I hope the relationship between them isn't sour, since it's the manager who did something awful. I hope Perth gets new managers
saint deserves zee the fanboy living his best life, going on script during their kissing scenes lmao my saint deserves better~ and we can see how happpy saint now.
I feel bad for both, Perth is still getting hate from some people even though he’s minding he’s own business but both SaintPerth are thriving right now in their own way hopefully they can connect again not as a ship but friends considering how it wasn’t Perth fault but his managers I don’t think it’s right to not let them connect in the future like some fans don’t want that. I hope that makes sense.
Mark, Perth and Saint are beautiful and amazing actors. I am so happy Saint is doing well. He must have been thru hell. The managers just lost respect.. they are supposed to guide and assist actors do well, not try to sabotage the other... All the three boys must have suffered.. Specially Saint. Thank you for the edit
This is a great video!! I didn’t know about any of the drama between the managers but was curious so thank you for making this video!! Keep up the great work!!😁💖
I feel so bad for Perth because of the fact that it was his manager targeting saint just imigine how Perth felt while that was going on but much love to both of them 😔😊.
I knew back then i said where is saint.?they said he had another project and he was busy so then i knew there was deeper going on i but i dont know what it was..managers are crazy need to replace those but good luck to perth and saint..
Its ironic how almost the same thing happened between Saint and Zee. Their friendship broke up due to management issues. With managers each defending their clients.
It’s a shame because Perth and saint had such good chemistry and were beloved by everyone. They seemed like really good friends and now they never see each other
Same thoughts... it's sad! 😕
Yeah...really2 sad...coz their chemistry beyond imagination...very perfect...
They are underwelming to watch (sorry im harsh but he was 17)
what happenes to them
What is this series?
i'm glad Saint didn't give up and have grown into a better actor now! i love Why R U the series that he's starring now! kudos!
Saint is so good in Why RU
I honestly cant believe this happened to him I feel so sad for him I'm so happy he's doing well and happy
I love his role better in Why R U, he’s lovely and really expressive hhh
Actually i am loving him too. . He is mature actor now and very expressive and he and zee is killing it ..they have very strong chemistry never seen such chemistry in any bl couple not only in reel life but also in real life... 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
He's grown so much, and become a stronger actor. I'm sad he had to go through this, but I'm so glad he didn't give up!!
To be honest Saint has been through a lot and he's only 22, he lost his father when he was in high school and on his birthday, that literally destroyed my heart. he wanted to be a monk but he needed money so that's why he moved to Bangkok, auditioned for roles until he got casted in LBC, imagine not being able to promote with the others, and facing what the manager said at only 19 years old. I'm so thankful he didn't give up and keeps working on acting (loved why r u and can't wait for LFG), he has a new popcorn business, AND he is in university right now majoring in economics (I think he graduates this year). Plus he has the greatest personality and everyone around him has said it, please please keep supporting this beautiful angel 🙏❤
What’s LFG??? Is that a new project he’s working on?
I think at that time he was 20 yrs old when this lbc drama happened and manager issues happened.
Is his dad sick ?
Yvonne Babb lets fight ghost. New drama not yet aired
@@nouraabd399 his dad died
I personally feel like Perth’s managers took advantage of how young Perth and Saint were, Saint was 19 and Perth was 17. What is a 17 year old supposed to know, it was also his first acting gig. This is just my opinion
Saint was 20 yrs old at that time.
@@nouraabd399 that's still pretty young in my opinion. but yes that's true
@@nouraabd399 No he was 17 at the time of LBC and it started just after the finish of LBC
@@nouraabd399 same like my age 😂
Damn perth was my age at that time, i can't even handle online school and this guy was-
i feel bad for them:(
I only watched “Love by Chance” because of Saint. Won’t be watching season 2 without him. Saint did a great job in the R U series. Looking forward to his Let’s Fight Ghosts movie.
Lets fight ghost is tv drama, and I also can't wait :)
same
I'll watch it, even if it's without saint! But only because TinCan are amdie hood rolls
Saints roll in Love by chance, seemed like the character had a mental Disability, it was very hard to watch him being manipulated, and put in those situations. Saints character in WHYRU is intelligent, and acts like an adult, who isn't being manipulated
same..its not love by chance without saint
Good for Perth that he change manager,his past manager is a snake.What happened hurt Saint and Perth fell sorry for them.
Did Perth changed that manager... Well thats great news.
They said so ,that manager of him is not good I have watched a youtuber who rants about his manager's attitude about telling Perth not to talk to Saint .
I just hope between perth and Zain be good again as before.....
@@martinikorjo5317 I don't want that to happen...They are happy now...I can't watch saint get hurt again by those people who around Perth.... You can think that I'm evil...that won't hurt me... because I love baby 🐰...
@@Blulagam me too. I don't want to see my baby hurt again after all perthsaint fans do to Saint. I cursed them,.
I'm just happy Saint found a real friend and supporter in Zee. You can just see how comfortable he is with the Why R U cast. Saint and Perth can just both be successful in their own path, obviously they're not in contact anymore but I think after everything it's the best for Saint. I just hope Perth escape those toxic adults around him because he seems to have a bunch of terrible people within his management team.
I don't want them to get back together as a couple anymore. After all the that TRIGON did to Saint i am done. I love him with Zee ..
@@mboyz.0964 same, but u know those ps fans still want saint to go back to PS fandom lol after evrything that happnd before this
@@mboyz.0964 Exactly my thoughts yah ... Saint is happy without those peoples
@@Blulagam yes and if ever it happen, they will be wild again if Saint will be partner to other at the second time. And what about Zaintsee shippers? They will getting wild too. Sorry my mind is in the future. Lol
@@mboyz.0964 mybe zs gonna be like GB
saint is a versatile actor and a model...he can always stand alone and be paired with all actors
Thats what got the manager super jealous of him. Coz he knows, with that look and talent he can go higher with just a blink. He was scared that Saint will be above everyone from the cast especially Perth.
But it is inhumane to fight like that. Even if it is a competition, i believe Perth can fight this battle himself morally ..
Because at that time they're just kids. They are trying new thing. Made friends, had fun. But this jerk turn it like a survival game.
Saint went through heavy struggles just like Mew. But look at where they are now? Saint is very happy with Zee just like Mew is with Gulf. Just proves that no matter how hard people will try to drag you down, there will always be someone who will be there for you and help you stand back again. Destiny? Perhaps. All I can say is that THAT IS GENUINE LOVE ya all. ❤
They were so young and with bad people surrounding them. I feel sad.
And just found out that perth is younger than me 😔
@@tobehuman5226 when i found out i screamed.. When i am 21 and still didn't get my 1st kiss
@@tobehuman5226 true. It challenged them to be strong and look where they are now :) and don't worty I'm also older than perth and also haven't had my 1st kiss yet 😆
true...saint and mew goes a lot of problems but they are strong..that i swhy i was so proud to both of them..cause they faced all profissionally..
So, Mew and Saint are really suitable to each other. I hope they can be couple in future 😌
The funny thing is that in the end saint came out stronger than ever. I mean he's literally one of the most ( if not the) beloved bl actors. He's literally made himself a known person by just being himself. Not only that, but he's both beautiful on the inside and outside ( not to mention he could literally be successful with just his looks alone. He was nominated for being one of the most handsome faces in the world) I'm happy that saint seems better and happier now and I look forward to more of him in the future because he's still so young and has a lot ahead of him.
Amazing words, as a MingEr I was so happy that he got nominated for one of the most handsome faces 2020. 💫❤
@@Kennia1998 tcclander? Or what
@@andalamoore YESSSS tccandler🥺❤❤
I Agree
I don't know who he is but I'm definitely going to get to know him!
Maybe this is the real reason why Perth no longer wants to be bl actor.
is that true that he dont want to be a bl actor anymore?
Teresa Nguyen yeah him and mean ( Tin) they made a post about it
Teresa Nguyen but im not saying this the reason tho
Actually, this was a drama that blew out of all proportion... Perth said he wanted to try acting in other sorts of genres too, but a lot of fans are portraying it as him saying he never wanted to do BL ever again (not true). Mean, on the other hand, did say he never wanted to do another BL, so people are lumping the two together.
@@Bucherviews didnt tin say he didnt want to do another one unless it was with plan as his pairing? Thats just what i heard
I didn't know all the facts. It went too far ! Saint reprised his role in Tharntype, though. It was really nice of him to accept :) I was so happy to see Pete again.
That is because TharnType was produced by a different company, it was produced by P'Mame herself, the author of LBC and TharnType under the name Me Mind Y, while LBC was produced by Studio Wabi Sabi. The two shows were also directed by different directors.
its differents all of the producers, @also no matters what humor , be strong I believePerth@Saint innocent ,Is not fault Perth or saint? look at Perth ? he try himself to be fine
Same here. Happy Saint is back with Why R U.
@@Jane00223 But Saint could have refused for other reasons. That's why I said it was nice that he reprised his role.
Perth is just a kid. Hopefully there's someone who can help him out of the toxic adult environment around him. Hope both Perth and Saint do well in their own ways.
Ikr? Perth was literally my age when he went through all that shit. If i were in his place i wouldn't be able to handle it
I’m just done watching Why Ru the series, and I never thought that Saint had this problem before, but still he fight that problem, and now has a good partner, Zee.
It *R E A L L Y* sucks that PerthSaint's entire friendship was destroyed bc of Perth's dumbass manger. Perth and Saint both are amazing ppl from what I've seen. They just wanted to act and their managers had to go and fuck with each other. And I especially feel so bad for Saint. Getting called a slut just so another actor can be promoted better? Absolutely not. I'm so happy that he got cast in Why R U. He looks so comfortable and happy with the cast. Zee is really supportive. I hope Perth did actually get better managers bc that boy didn't deserve to deal with that. In the end, I still absolutely love Saint and Perth. Both are amazing actors who I hope continue to thrive 💙
Sorry but can i ask ?? who is zee ??😂
@@Meisy-vm2tf Zee is the one who play Saint's Boyfriend in WHy R U
@@Meisy-vm2tf sorry about that 😂 Zee is the actor who plays Saint's love interest in Why R U. he's wonderful
@@Meisy-vm2tf Zee is Saint partner in Why R U 😄🤗
@@Meisy-vm2tf 🤦😅 it's his boyfriend in Why R U .... The hot Zee😅🥰 adding on...
My only issue is Perth was attacked and he was only 17 years old. He was a child. It seems like everyone forgot about that or the fact he supported Saint as much as he could. I don’t like what happened to either one not but why did a child get attacked and is still carrying the weight of adult actions. There is more to the story I am sure but I am sure it will not be told. Saint is doing well and I am happy for him. He is a showman. Perth will be fine because this Young Man has remained positive and Focused never speaking a negative word. One more thing when he turned 18 he gave Saint his total support. Think about it and remember. Again wishing both well but NothingbutLove for my 🐯. This is my option no offense to anyone. My prayers are with you. Whatever is going on I wish you well
👍 couldn't have said more well .. do you expect a kid to fight with his manager or what ever authority .. biggest thing was he stayed with saint even through all this 💔 saint himself said Perth stood with him all this time... But yet all Perth get is hate for what adults did. There is so much story in this I feel both managers are at fault it's not only Perth manager fault .. because if saint manager was so good why did saint fire him later on.. old manager created mess and then everything was going well and suddenly manager is fired and after few months many issues kept coming... But still all hate goes to Perth... imagine 17 yr old kid go through so much hate from fans , insult to him , his family his friends , his looks everything ... The burden he must have felt.
17??? No way. I thought he was around 20 yo while the whole drama was happening
@@kedimamasisevenkiz 17 now 19
What is more ashamed is beacuse perth obviously didnt want to be joined in the managements drama and also since he was still young during those issues thinking about how perth was going through is painful we all know how much he loved his p and care about him but because of his managers stupid actions he cant seem to speak about because we can feel he was ashamed of what his managements did and during thos time that his management was still controling him it would be a bad image for him i feel so sorry for saint though he was the best actor he was brought out to this tragic drama of both management i cant seem to budge why perth's management would want to just make his stars famous i mean saint is also making them equally famous it isnt just the fact that they are in one management that isnt a reason lets just see how perth is being in trauma of what his manager did but i wished perth and saint would still be brothers to each other when they had such a good chemistry...trigon was such a hit..
Lets just dont hate anyone of them.. and lets continue showing live and support to them
Remember they taught us love so we give them love..
#Perthsaint #Trigon4ever ☺️
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I'm so mad at Perth's manager... Perth and Saint's friendship was destroyed by the manager's selfishness 😤
Perth also human being, he also feel hopeless and sorrowful all this time.. Being threated unfair, hatred, insulted by nonsenses rumour endleslly.. But this young boy still stand smile widely to always give positive spirit to others.. Never to complain nor to burden. How can this boy being so tough from all that happens surround him all the time.. Keep moving on perth, you're talented, deserves to be happy too 🙏
I'm happy now that he found Zee and they really have a strong chemistry too! He literally grow in that series, seeing different Saint their! Am still wishing to have Why R U season 2!
Is that Will be s2 w r u?
Waiting
perth was so young i was really surprised! he must have been 16 when they filmed this. the kind of mental fortitude that you need to have in this industry is no joke honestly so i wish him all the best.
Fr though
Ikr? I'm 17 and he been through that sh¡t when he was 17 i can't believe how stressed he must've been. I feel bad for him:(
This video made me think of when Saint cried at a fan meeting and said how he read all the comments, knew about everything (meaning he 100% knew about all the defamation and all the hate that was spread about him), disappeared from the spotlight because he was struggling and lost motivation to continue acting, questioned himself, questioned if he was making the right choice, and questioned if anyone would still love and support him. Luckily, Zee was there to tell all the crying fans that he was going to support Saint himself,. I'm sad that he barely has any contact with anyone from LBC except for maybe Mean and Earth (at least publicly), but I'm happy that he has found a new family with the Why R U cast and seems really happy! And I wish Perth the best of luck; he's such a young and talented kid, and it's horrible that he was caught in the crossfire because of petty and childish adults
Excuse me, do u still have link for the event where Saint cried and had Zee beside him? I used to see a photo but never known what event was it. :(
Excuse me... I can't hear what this video say... So, Can you summarize what happened between Perth and Saint at the end?😥
@@vincentdan9243 I saw that video clip,mybe this ruclips.net/video/sZHc7NHTJ44/видео.html what event? it was zaintsee first fan meeting last year
@@NoName-ty9vs yes it is! Thank you for finding one with english subs! I only watched the one without subs so I didn't know if I could share it!
Can't agree more with this comment. I've been with Saint since 2018 and love him so much till now and future.
Okay now I love Saint even more. I can't imagine the struggle having your name and reputation ruined like that. I watched LBC but never involved in any shipping of the series. Now I'm glad he's in a happy and successful path.
I'm still pretty new to thai bls, but i'm so glad i got into ZeeSaint first before having known PerthSaint. I understand that Perth most likely didnt even know what was happening or was not given a choice to meddle but their fans must've been so devastated during this whole thing. I'm just so happy that Saint was able to clear his name and i'm hoping that Perth truly has better managers now.
poor me, my first bl series is LBC, im actually watching it right now. i didnt know something like this happened :((
It was basically one of my first Thai Bl's. At least worth remembering. 😉 And I still love it and rewatching some part's now and then. So I'm a bit sad... Lbc 2 without Saint. But we Fans had wished so desperately for a second season. 😍 Still I hope for a cameo.
This video gives me the answer of what happened back then, bc I didn't understood.
I am actually perthsaint fans before, but because what happened, like "some" Perth fans and perthsaint leave saint alone, i leave my perthsaint and move too zeesaint 🥰
I honestly will support Saint until the end. He’s grown so much as an actor since LBC. I still love Perth too though
I’m sorry but that’s just messed up, Saint did nothing wrong he was just trying to enjoy his role in Love by Chance. I think it’s good that Saint is not in Love by Chance season 2. This way Saint is avoiding a lot more drama that could happen in season 2. Saint also looks happier in the Why R U series anyways.
Tsk
Good for you Pete. Just move on
Right
I feel Saint is happy now and he is surrounded by nice ppl. And I want that stupid reporters to stop asking about why he will not be in LBC2. Like what the hell na? That evil ppl did horrible things to him and he said noone called him for season 2 yet those idiots still asking him about LBC2 🙄
This is such a difficult question to answer I feel sooo bad for Saint who had to go through all of the drama and yet had to act brave in front of the camera when LBC S2 is mentioned😭
They don't have brain, it might make him cry after such questions, my baby saint💕
I'm sorry but I'm still don't know what happened between Perth and Saint...I don't understand what the girls said and I'm sorry but can someone tell me exactly what happened until Saint's fan attack him??And what about his relationship with Perth??
@@yutasbestfriend2656 Have you watch LBC(Lovebychance series) if not then it is where perth and Saint become related to each other... They were couple in that series but in the period of lbc both manegers have problems to each other BUT NOT perth and saint. Tell now they were in Good Terms.. Sad part is they get to separate after LBC 1 Because of manegers issue
That's so sad. Spreading rumors about a kid? I hope that guy never gets hired again because that's completely unprofessional and disgusting. If you don't know how to stay professional and manage your people fairly then find another job.
Exactly. Saint is a baby. Smdh
So basically Perth’s manager spread rumors about Saint and now Perth and saint aren’t really friends anymore? I’m so confused by this situation somebody needs to summarize for me😂
Bisharo Abdi that manager wanted his other actor on the serie (Mark i think) for that he wanted Saint out but Sain't did not let that happend (of course), So Perth's manager went on spreading rumors about Saint being a prostitute to old man and that is also why he got the place in the serie. People believed that and they started to hate on Saint realy bad. I hope that was clear for you
Louder!!👏👏👏❤🙏
Sooo we lost a cute ship all because their managers decided to be little kids? I’m beyond outraged they need new ones that will actually do their job and not ruin their actors 😑
Saint had addressed in a show regarding his friendship with Perth and thankfully they're still very much in touch with each other, he also stated that the adults around them were the problems at the time. I read somewhere that Perth management wanted an actor under their agency to act as Pete but Saint got the role instead, maybe that's why Perth management did what they did to Saint. He did explained some things about his meltdown with Zee in the same show. Now that Perth signed under GMMTV I really hope he will get a better chance as his acting is very good. As for Saint he's a CEO of his company now and I will keep on supporting them together.
Wait really?? Do you have more information or like sources?
no wonder he cried so hard during gap the series finale
I know about this mess already but not this detailed. Knowing about it more really broke my heart even more. Everything was so fucked up. Saint doesn't deserve to go through this kind of shit. Remember on his first FM with Zee, he was crying and saying that he was honestly feeling discouraged and was about to give up (his career) because of how much it affected him. He was afraid that people would leave him. And when he said "I just want to make people happy and i was afraid that continuing this (acting career) will not make people happy anymore. That's why i've been thinking whether to continue or not. Idk if people still want it or not." i was sobbing so hard. And through that clip i can hear some fans are crying hard.
Imagine unreasonably and stupidly attacking someone who has a sincere soul like him. That's utterly horrible.
But no worries, he's a versatile and talented actor. He's the epitome of 'universal chemistry' cause he can be paired with just anyone and with whatever character he should play, and he will undoubtly nail it. He will shine even brighter with his own talents. Let's support him and whatever decision (project and all) he's taking.
I'm sorry for my long rambling. I'm honestly once again being emotional here. ㅠ____ㅠ
True
Can't imagine it's happening in Thailand
It's is a big shame .to this mangers who on serious works destroying other career they should know their are destroying their's too.if saith is out that will be the start of thier career downfalls
Damn i knew it was bad but i didn’t know it was that bad if i was saint I wouldn’t do season 2 and would avoid the project and the actors completely i mean the mangers tried so hard to break Saint that just heartless and a bs apology you should be on your knee apologizing to Saint
@Pastaqueen56 his talking about both managers. I wish no more interaction with both of them.
I am glad Saint is not part of LBC 2. He deserves much better...if I was Saint I would drag that manager to court and file case against him. Saint is really kind he didn't take any legal action against that idiot manager.
Im glad Saint isn't taking any part in any lbc related stuff. Don't want him to be associated with any of them
@@whizmiz2678 same here
I guess this is also the reason why Perth doesn't want to take any BL acts, as of now and focus on another goal at hand, while he's positive and focus, he's still a child carrying a certain burden because of some adult's jealousy over a certain actor.. Thinking that Saint is a hindrance for Perth's success.. Hate people who thinks that way..
Felt sad about this, coz I dont have any idea about the issue, I just wanted to see them okay at least together without the awkwardness..
Thank you for sharing this matter with us, who doesn't have any idea about their situation..
I hope someone take legal actions towards to managers, because they made the apology AFTER ruining someone, or the series, so what they say doesn't matter anymore
SomeDays 💯
Exactly.
After watching this, I love Saint more! Happy that he got Zee now and he looks happy with Zee. Saint has a good heart, you can tell because he's involved with different charitable events. I hope Saint stays happy...
Oh my god, my heart literally breaks for Saint. I really can't believe this happened to him- like I can't even register it, it's that horrible. I'm sooo glad he's with the Why R U cast now, especially with Zee being a total sweetheart and the two boys supporting each other. And I feel terrible for Perth too because he was literally just a kid- it must have been terrifying to be in this situation and to not know what to do. This is honestly the most ridiculous situation ever. I just hope Saint gets through this and gets to wherever he wants to be in his career (which no doubt he will because he's MAAAD talented). I really hope nothing like this happens again with any actors.
‘Love by chance’ Is the reason I honestly started watching & loving Thai BL. AePete were so sweet & loving, you could not help falling I love with them. Perth & Saint are young, yet both have so much talent & charisma. I’m glad they did not let the actions of others break them. I hope that they could remain friends & maybe one day work together again 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
I am quite shocked since its been two years since I watched LBC and I was so confused on why Perth and Saint never acknowledged each other like they did before. This is my first time knowing what truly happened and I feel so bad for them :(( I hope they can become friends again in the future with none of these issues...
Can u tell my...i dont get it the point..saint manipulated info, or pert manipulate info, or the manager? Please can u retelling the point above?
ryo ryo Dong worry let me clear out the info cuz it is a bit confusing. In the video above it is saying that it was Perth’s Manager that manipulated others through false info about Saint in which Saints Manger began to defend Saint against these false rumours being spread by Perth’s Manager!
Perth's management wanted Saint to leave his management and sign with Attractor. That way they would get all the money. Perth could not speak because Attractor banned all actors from speaking to Saint. They then ran Perth into the ground with appearances during his first year of school until he ended up in the hospital. I did not know that Perth backed out of LBC2 though he said he will now be doing no BL. He was not going to be in a couple in LBC. The only way he could avoid it was begging publicly not be coupled again after Saint. They really did his head in.
Did he say that? I thought he said lbc 2 is his last?
Sonea T yeh it his his last tho isn’t it and omg I didn’t know that they this to Perth.
Perth and saint deserve better if only the freaking manager could not be an asshole none of this would have happened they ruined Perth and saint brother relationship
Really ? He admitted to hospital ?
I hope they’re still in contact, I feel bad that their careers together were ruined because their managers were selfish
I love love Saint!!!! He is a wonderful actor and he deserved so much more. I’m glad he overcame that issue and I will continue to support every project he does forever!
Knowing that Perth's management wanted to replace Saint with Mark kind of makes me wonder about the casting of The Stranded and how much the management had say in their roles. Not that it was a bad casting but since they ended up as a couple in The Stranded it just makes me curious as to how that happened and if the casting team knew about what happened with Love By Chance.
I love mark so bad but i cant agree with him being with perth in lbc too :( this is so sad
This truly infuriated me I cant believe this happened to such young kids I detest grown adults that prey or use these young men to further their careers. I feel for Perth being in such a disgusting drama but I feel more for Saint having his name sullied so and if in fact this situation was true that would make Saint a victim he was underaged that manager needs to lose all his clients. And the apology only came when LBC2 was sbeing promoted how disgusting. I'm glad Saint has gotten success with Why RU his acting is great and he seems happy I hope he is. This also makes me understand why Saint never features pictures of Zee on his ig he is being careful. I feel for this boy.
I've never seen the other series that Saint plays in(I think it's called 2gether?), but I've seen why r u and Zee and Saint have such a sincere bond. I don't understand why anyone would blame Zee for supporting Saint. They have such a genuine feeling and are both great actors. I don't know what happened but I believe Saint deserves happiness. Is it a good idea to watch the other series(I'm asking to know if I should watch it)?
@@tyrarohbock1774 he is not in 2 gether he is featured briefly in Tharntype but he is not in any other series besides Why R U he is in a short with Zee called truth or Dare though
Um- in Thailand they weren’t underaged.
@@ramonaflowers2813 Thank you for clearing that up for me! :)
So Saint isn't in any other dramas or Zee isn't?
Saint is always going to be one of my favorite actors!
Let’s not forget that there’s still some perthsaint shippers that is still attacking saint even after such a long time. even cursing at zee just because saint is a couple with him right now 🤦🏻♀️
Those are the eggs, I call them eggs because they have nothing in their head only malice
Today only in twitter I have reported like 6 acc that was spreading lies and really bad comments about Saint and Zee... Also, is really sad that many fans of Perth are promoting 2gether not because they like it if not because they want to put it hard for Saint's series to success..... ek.
Mana Soup ⟫ srsly those ppl are just toxic..Saint is such an angel and so is Perth why hurt them???
Even though Perth and Saint was a cute couple people shouldn't be blaming Zee for being with Saint, all that matter's is that Saint is happy and have someone to help through all the things he's going through it shouldn't matter who Saint date's as long as he is happy. I wouldn't be cursing about Zee being a couple with Saint the people I would cursing at is the people who was hurting Saint.
Really insane people who don't care about others very disappointing
What i admire about Perth and Saint is that after all those issues and dramas they are still following each other on different social media platforms like Instagram and Twitter which basically means what u said is true that they never had any personal beef with each other.
*now i'm happy cause Saint is now blooming once again but i can't stop crying bcs of this:((*
Love perthsaint relationship so much &sad that happened between them. 😭
I honestly believe that the past situations made Saint a lot stronger as a person and as an actor. I love his acting in LBC but he is way more mature and bold in Why R U. Im still sad that Saint wont be in LBC season 2 but i know he will be successful and he is happy in Why R U now. 😍
This makes me sad. LBC is the first bl series that I watch and my fav. But right now I see Saint that he is happy with Zee and comfortable with. But my PerthSaint heart is crying. 💔
Where in the same boat, im sad for my aepete my best bl couple, but still Happy at the same time for them trying to look forward and forget bad times.
me to
My god it was so shocked . I was very determined to wait for the season 2 and now this was all happened. I really love aepete
Perthsaint forever
@@kyleundi9893 yes.. I don't know if it will ever happen, but if they were to work together again without all the drama and with professional managers and such, I'll be the happiest person in the world
I’m really glad Saint is happier now with the Domundi boys and WhyRU. No drama with the other management and the boys are super supportive of him. 🥺💖 They are very much a huge family! also I’m super grateful to Zee who stood by Saint through all the chaos and took a lot of hate for it, but never let anything get between them! Not even toxic Pinson shippers. I wish Perth the best, I really do, but I’m glad Saint has moved on from this.
Saint is now better with Zee. #saintzee
@@drewcruz5879 That's true ... And I'm happy 😊 with that
Yes ...and I really proud of ZEE who took all the hate from ps shippers but still stand with SAINT. I love these two a lot. Keep fighting 🐰🐨
I considered it a blessing in disguise. Of course i didn't want any of these for Saint he doesn't deserve any of it but everything that has happened directed Saint to Zee and i couldn't be anymore thankful.
Thank you so much for explaining what went on with Perth and Saint. I have just binge watched both series and was totally confused as to why Saint never appeared in S2, especially at the end with that message. It is so sad when artists management gets involved and tries to ruin reputations. These are young kids with their whole careers in front of them. Give them a break, please.
I am really happy that Saint is still smiling after going through this dark phase. He is a versatile talent. No matter what project he choses, I will always support that Kid. Stay blessed baby Saint 🤞
Actually I already know about this... But not this detailed. I felt so sorry for Perth and Saint 🥺💔
Edit: I still want them to be friends tho... But maybe I can't see it in the near future 😭
김민재Fadzareriq ok so PerthSaint didn’t hate each other or anything... right?
No . Never
Iirc they ARE still friends, just couldn't interact as much as they wanted to
Hiba A they don’t hate each other but Perth is banned to interact with saint and so they stopped talking for quite sometimes now
BLxKPOP GOT7 ugh that’s so annoying 🙄, they were good friends. the managers were kinda selfish
this is sad really, these boys are such good friends in real life, to be torn like that by people who just doesnt care of anything other than business really enraged me.
All we need to do if we love Saint is to support him. I'm glad that Saint gaining his popularity with WHYRU. Hope he will always maintain his spirit in acting like what he said, he wants to bring happiness to the fans and the viewers, no matter what kind of film is it, he just wants to perform.
So now it's time for us to spread WHYRU, gain views and support the cast, especially Saint and P'Zee.
We feel sorry, but the past is just the past . :)
too bad their friendship had to suffer because of unethical manipulations of others
@@christinahung-lim5400 fr tho same
saint is such an incredible actor and person he is such a strong person hes been though so much i truely enjoy all his work and i hope he has many years of success to come
I am really really happy that Saint finally found another family who cares about him so so much. Specially Zee. I can see Zee really protects him and wanted him to be happy, being the one that's the eldest among them, I'm really glad Zee is really making Saint happy. Saint is a strong boy, he deserve more love from his friends and us fans. I want nothing but to see this young boy have his smile always. Forever supporting them.
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I think what pains me as a fan of both of them, is that Perth is a kid. He’s 17, shoved into a toxic drama between two different managements, and I doubt he was allowed to say anything on the matter. And I can’t even imagine how awful Saint must feel, even to this day. I wish they were friends still. I’m also glad Saint didn’t give up his acting career and pushed forward despite I’m sure the fear of pushing forward.
Also I want to thank Zee in this as well, because apparently he helped Saint through the whole thing and stood by his side, (which is probably why they have good chemistry in their drama 😅)
And give Perth credit too while we’re out here. Despite not having a voice, (again guessing he wasn’t allowed one,) he forced himself to get a voice and dropped his manager, which in his own way, was standing up for Saint the only way he knew out. What his manager did was a so awful and resulted in a broken friendship which sucks to see. They were clearly really close to each other.
It is refreshing to see people stick-up for Perth, on other videos site, I have read some awful things they said about Perth. I am wondering if there was gag order in place with his company, where he could not talk, like you mentioned.
Saint won me. Such a good kid
I remember when the series was airing Saint would do solo reactions to have at least some interaction with the fans since he never attended events with the rest of the cast, knowing about the situation now and remembering that really breaks my heart... The worst part is that when people took sides they would attack one of the kids (not just P and S but Mark and the other casts who were also controlled by management and could not speak out about the situation) when they've done nothing wrong and shouldn't pay for the adult managers' mistakes... What hurts the most is that they seemed to have a beautiful friendship, coming in this industry and having their first acting breakout and achieving success together and that friendship was ruined... Fuck Perth's manager, fuck him very much
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True I remember all boys attacked .. it broke my heart whole cast really had traumised experience.. I am glad Perth and mark both fired that manager 😠
@@fatemamustafa269 they should have done that in the first place. After so much damage..is meaningless.
@@archanashinde1764 you do know they were probably bound by contracts and to break them before they ended would not be easy for them, right? Unfortunately they must've had to wait until they ended so they could finally be free, please don't direct your anger towards the wrong people
And what's more heartbreaking and all is that Saint insisted on joining the cast of WHY R u the series when they reacted to ep. 1 despite his busy schedule. And just seeing him there with everyone and smiling broke my heart 😭💔
And now, Saint starred in a new popular drama and is still being loved❤
I can't deny the fact that I once loved pethsaint but right now I prefer Zee more than peth it just feels like zee has created a new version of Saint he's acting skills has improved so much and you can just feel the passion in him. Just like mewart and mewgulf you can feel the changes in them
I was so sad when I knew that Saint isn’t participating LBC S2 but now I understand why. Their chemistry is so perfect but now I’ll just accept the fact that I can’t see them together again. My poor PerthSaint heart.
I just started watching thai bl so I had no idea. Your video was informative and not boring at all. Looking forward mew and art vid. I did hear something about that but all videos I found were people drooning and rambling on and on and on until I just gave up. I do NOT care enought to watch 20 mins worth of nonsensical babbling. Yours will be welcome!
Thank you for clearing the air for those of us who never knew what went on. I feel bad for both of the boys. Too bad I'm not that hyped to watch LBC sn2. Maybe ill watch it but in the mean time, i will continue supporting Saint
Although it's very upsetting that such a bond had to be lost between two friends I think the fact that they are now separated is the best for their careers. I do hope that they contact e/o behind the screen but keeping a professional relationship is absolutely impossible after what the both of them were forced to go through. I only wish both of then success in their careers😊
I'm just now hearing about this..and seriously I can't believe that they could do something soo cruel to saint , saint is soo kind and cute and does not deserve to be downgraded just because of the managers bad...this really threw me for a loop but I am glad that saint was able to play In whyru I truly love that show ,whyru is the first bl couple I watched and I love them soo much I will continue to support saint❣
That was effin' surprising! 😭😭 I've been wanting to see them both in season 2 but the reason it's now crystal clear as to why Saint is not on the trailer. I feel really bad for N'Saint. Thank you for letting us all know about this feud 💔😭
This make me love saint more. Period
Yeahh mee too
I am actually so pissed about the f$cking managers! These two had such a great freindship and they just ruined it. But I am so glad that Saint didnt gave up, went through everything and is now doing so much better! He has my greatest respect!
perth manager doesnt have a right to cause any harm actions against saint..i guess the management should do something to protect saint's personal and private matters...perth's managers are rude and very unprofessional ..well whatever they said against saint it doesnt matter cause we love Saint😜
Thank you so much for explaining things in a pretty clear cut way, and even though you had an opinion, you tried to lay out the story as best you could. A lot of new fans may not know the story, but I remember when Saint was alone, and it broke my heart that the other boys didn’t speak out or up for him. That’s when I decided to throw my full support behind this guy. And when Zee came into the picture, here was someone who would be in his corner, no matter the pressure or attacks. Finally he wasn’t alone again. And the DomundiTV boys seem to have adopted. Saint as their younger brother, thus giving him a working family again.
Another question, though it may not be one you want to get into, and if so, i completely understand. There was a lot of talk about the two actors being in a relationship outside of friends and coworkers. Do you feel that this was just fans shipping the two of them? And if so, did the toxicity of the fandom when the two parted play into the fact that Saint wasn’t asked to be in LBC 2? I know that there were many “fans” who were angry at Saint for distancing himself. I felt very sad for Saint during this time. I honestly wish both he and Perth all the success because they are both talented, and work hard. Feel free to delete or ignore. I just wondered what your opinion was because you seem very thorough and rational, looking at both sides of an issue before speaking. Thanks again.
@@jenh4376 you mean in relationship, is as in lover? Perth and Saint?
Jen H43 Perth and Saint weren’t ever in a relationship as more than just friends or coworkers. Saint saw Perth as a younger brother he wanted to take care of but Perth became different overtime, fame got to him and his company.
TrueFan4EverBACK thank you, i thought that was the case, but some people seemed convinced, so i thought I would ask. honestly i am a huge Saint fan for his positivity and his commitment to the community, and his caring nature. He seems happy now, and Perth seems to have moved on from their friendship too, but I don’t get why fans just cant support who they like without dragging down former acting partners or friends. Makes me sad to see hate thrown saint and zee’s way because of some bad fans. But i guess that’s the case in every fandom. I would much rather support people and just keep silent about those i don’t follow than to spread negative vibes. Hopefully when lbc2 comes out, saint wont get dragged again because he will be busy promoting lets fight ghosts, so maybe just maybe the fandom will turn their eye to praise their favs instead of dragging others. 🤞
Jen H43 People forget that fanservice is done on purpose to basically give more entertainment and happiness to fans and to promote their couple. Doesn’t mean it’s bad to do it as long as the actors are okay with it, but fans don’t seem to understand this concept. So many fans got delusional when it came to Perth and Saint. Because fans just see them as a product, don’t see them as 2 different people just doing their job as entertainers. Especially as actors they will have other partners, it’s common sense. But they are so stuck in their crazy ways they just don’t let it go. I hope one day they can.
Thank you for this video. It was educational and much appreciated. I do hope that Perth and Saint can become friends again if even they choose to go different paths career wise. Certainly, they both were put in a difficult position, especially Perth and the others under the same management. How much authority do they have? Managers have lots of strings they could pull to manipulate actors, especially those who are much younger and getting their start.
This video was very informative because I knew it was drama between Perth and Saint’s managers but I didn’t know exactly what went down. Thank you for making this🙂
i honestly love saint even more now for not giving up and standing up on his feet again , after all that shit im glad his new family(whyru cast and crew) r treating him well like he deserve and im happy to see him happy with zee im thankful for zee for being there for him and taking care of him❤
You narration style is so melodramatic, but at the same time somehow sincere. lol Love it.
I love Saint so much right now- i love a person who pushes through the struggle and succeeds.
But one most of the important thing right now is Saint is Happy now and I’m happy for him because his series now is really awesome and I love him more now!
Yes im thankful because he found real friendship with domundi. I love Saint with Zee as i can see he is more comfortable with him
purple rain yeah really true😊
I recently watched WHY RU and I never knew why people were gossiping about Saint all the time. I get it now. Personally, I feel so bad for what he went through since it’s not fair at all. I’m so glad that he is better now and associating with people that actually make him comfortable
Ah crap, I never really knew what exactly happened. This really sucks and I hope Saint is okay (Also Perth, like I hope he got a better manager)
thanks for the update. i hate what happened between their management. right now, i honestly miss PerthSaint 😔
It’s been years after this, and I’m still heartbroken bc they couldn’t work together anymore 😿💕, they had such a great chemistry also love by chance was my first BL serie and the one that start everything for me, we all still support both actors also send all our love and support 💕
Omg you had me shook and choking on my food the first minute. 😭 I didn’t realize how deep this actually was! Loved the video thoe ❤️❤️
I don't really get Perth's manager for doing that. He's very irresponsible and inhumane where the hell did he get that statement to throw at saint? Saint is well off, has a nice loving mother and family I'm not claiming anything but this man is decent why would he be caught in that sort of things. Perth and Saint clearly had nothing to do with this and it breaks my heart that even until now Saint couldn't even wish Perth a happy birthday, follows each other on ig but completely ignores each other. It's like their still carrying this burden brought up by their managers that they can't even do anything to fix. I'm happy for Perth with his Why r u fam but this issue had been the reason why lbc would not feel complete. I love how Saint was very matured whenever he's interviewed about this stuff and is straightforward about answering questions involving Perth. I just wish these two good careers even separately.
Saint is doing very well and I hope the managers gets the KARMA they deserve. Thanks for explaining why they stopped. I feel sorry for Saint being targeted that way. I admire his professionalism and integrity as an actor. I wish Perth Success as well but my heart goes to SAINT in this rift.
I just felt pity for my baby saint 😢 TBH I wanna go to Thailand and give saint a warm hug and tell him that he is worthy and tell him that he is strong enough to handle this drama and do it professionally and Lastly tell him that I love him and I do support him where ever he will go through 😍❤
I've kept hearing bit by bit of the story of the managers about Perth and Saint. So I just want to thank you for the incredible update. I love watching Perth and Saint, and I will continue to support them both
They still follow each other on Instagram, maybe they are still friends behind the scenes?
I am so thankful to you for making this video because Saint is, still today, getting hate and he does not deserve any of it.
Looking forward to the Mewart video.
They should not be pair together again.
I see an interview where Saint said that they don't talk since month
They won't unfollow each other bc imagine the outrage of the most toxic fandom if that happens 😂
And everyone is tracking what they are posting... And unfollow, imagine this 🙈
@@whizmiz2678 lol true😂
I cannot for all the understanding in the world could believe someone could hurt a pure, innocent being such as Saint. I have been following his works and I've never heard of this, simply because I am just focusing in his works and not the "dramas" that's happening within their entertainment industry. I was really confused why there are no Perth/Saint videos and why is there no more series with the two of them.
It pains me to imagine that Saint went through all this and even lost his friendship with Perth but I am so grateful of where he is now. I can see his videos with Zee and with the WRU series. And I can see that he's happy and in such a better place now.
I love him so much, he's my baby, apart from my ultimate baby Gun (hehe). So yeah, now I'm upset and it's almost 2 am, how can I sleep. 😭
I only wish to see more of saint he is a great actor. A fun from a far away country. We love you
Dear Moonconsort , thank you very much for standing for truth.It is undoubted , after your explanation of Perth Saint conflict, many were enlightened and came to support Saint. Your articulation of the issue and the information arranged in order to support the issue extremely well. I salute you for your desire to present the incident as it is and without contradiction. Our Saint is now shining , and moving forward much faster . I pray for Perth and his future too. It is very clear you cannot berry the truth , rather the truth will liberate us. May God Continue to bless Saint and Moonconsort.
I am so proud of Saint. He went through so much and yet he never gave up. He's a true role model. I hope future holds wonderful things for him❤
literally just finished love by chance and was so excited to see that there'd be a season 2, but got confused when i didn't see pete. fast forward to me looking up the actors and stumbling onto this mess :-( i'm so sad that this happened to saint, but i'm happy to hear (from the comments on this video) that he's doing better! i'll definitely check out his other works and support him!
they're both still following each other on Instagram though, so I hope the relationship between them isn't sour, since it's the manager who did something awful. I hope Perth gets new managers
saint deserves zee the fanboy living his best life, going on script during their kissing scenes lmao my saint deserves better~ and we can see how happpy saint now.
I feel bad for both, Perth is still getting hate from some people even though he’s minding he’s own business but both SaintPerth are thriving right now in their own way hopefully they can connect again not as a ship but friends considering how it wasn’t Perth fault but his managers I don’t think it’s right to not let them connect in the future like some fans don’t want that. I hope that makes sense.
Mark, Perth and Saint are beautiful and amazing actors. I am so happy Saint is doing well. He must have been thru hell. The managers just lost respect.. they are supposed to guide and assist actors do well, not try to sabotage the other... All the three boys must have suffered.. Specially Saint.
Thank you for the edit
This is a great video!! I didn’t know about any of the drama between the managers but was curious so thank you for making this video!! Keep up the great work!!😁💖
I feel so bad for Perth because of the fact that it was his manager targeting saint just imigine how Perth felt while that was going on but much love to both of them 😔😊.
I knew back then i said where is saint.?they said he had another project and he was busy so then i knew there was deeper going on i but i dont know what it was..managers are crazy need to replace those but good luck to perth and saint..
I'm glad that they remain closed despite everything that happened and Perth's management now is GMMTV 🥺
Its ironic how almost the same thing happened between Saint and Zee. Their friendship broke up due to management issues. With managers each defending their clients.