Sooooo... when are you starting Dandelion Dynasty?! That's honestly the perfect mix for fans of Greenbone, Liveships and LPQ. I also realised how much I adore 'generational' stories thanks to LPQ, it was absolutely phenomenal. And this is also exactly why the final trilogy in the RotE is my favourite, because you see the growth of the characters and just how literally everything comes back around and falls into place. SO satisfying! Great video Sarah 🤩
It’s going to have to be top priority for 2024. I probably won’t get to it this year, as I want to focus on getting things finished, but it sounds perfect for me ☺️❤️ I need more discord shaming so that I continue RotE 😅😅
@@TheBookCure You really should just be kind to yourself and bump some other series off your priority list to get to Dandelion earlier... just saying 🤪 And I am sure that I can find some people to help me with nagging you about RotE, GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT SARAH! 🤣❤
3 of my 10 favorite series are decades spanning(well, one is centuries spanning, but Hadrian can live to 800, so it counts). You have started one of them, and haven't got to the decades spanning part, and haven't started the other 2. Realm of the Elderlings The Dandelion Dynsaty(you will like it so much. Especially books 2-4) The Sun Eater
It's so interesting that you included Dresden here. I never really thought about the fact that this spanned so many years. It clearly does, but I didn't really consider that when I read it.
Dune. Not only focus on family and family loyalty, but many major storylines involve plots that took generations to plan and execute (specifically breeding plans designed to ensure people with certain qualities would be born, generations in the future.
Book tube favorites that do this: First Law and Realm of the Elderlings. For example, in First Law, Logen and Cosca are quite different with the passage of time. Bayaz not at all. With Elderlings, we see Fitz at three very distinct epochs in his life. For the ones that are less popular on Booktube, Bujold’s Vorkosigan Saga follows Miles family from when his parents meet to Miles at around 36. Steven Brust’s Dragaeran books span centuries, keeping some of the same characters. Jacqueline Carey spans generations in her Terre D’Ange books, with each of the three trilogies moving to the next generation (but switching families for the last trilogy). David Gemmell looks at characters in different parts of their life in his Drenai series, with a few books devoted to Druss, and others to Waylander, both at different life stages. And then, of course, there was Conan - the barbarian, the pirate, the king… This happens a bit in historical series: Hornblower, Sharpe, Lymond, Niccolo.
@@TheBookCure I’ll be interested to see what you think. Overall, I think it has a better structure than the first books. I’m still undecided about which series has the better overall cast - leaning toward the first, but he’s developed character arcs better here (Sabine, Rikke, Leo, and Orso all change drastically and believably).
The first one I thought of was Joe Abercrombies First Law. Personally I loved running into whatever characters were left by the time we got to the Age of Madness trilogy, which is about 20-30 years after The Blade Itself. Seeing how certain characters have evolved over that time span or just seeing the former main characters children vying for power in the latter trilogy was really interesting.
Feist Riftwar series does this as well. We follow characters, children of these characters, grand children etc... Daniel Abraham did also do the long story with characters growing old and changing in the Expanse.
One interesting book I read is ‘Kalpa Imperial’ by Angelica Gorodischer translated by Ursula Le Guin. It’s a standalone fantasy that’s under 300 pages but spans hundreds of years. So you don’t really get to see a character grow and change but rather empires rise and change and make similar mistakes. Highly recommend
I’d recommend Tad Williams’ Osten Ard series. There are two main series with the second series taking place 40 years or so later with the same main characters. You get to see the character’s growth and see some of the consequences of what happened before come back around. The last book is coming out this year and I can’t wait.
I can think of a couple historical fiction books / series that I believe fit this category. And they're some of my favorites: 1- North and South trilogy by John Jakes; it focuses primarily on to best friends and their families. These two friends meet at West Point when they're school aged, and set at around the early-mid 1800s. By the end of the trilogy, they have wives and children, and their younger cousins have grown and went thru the Civil War. Such great reads! 2- Here Be Dragons by Sharon Kay Penman; we start out with King Henry II and his sons Richard, John, young Henry and Geoffrey. In Wales there's young Llewellyn who takes back his father's land, becomes a Prince who unites Wales, and married John's bastard daughter. It's book one of a fantastic trilogy, and the trilogy itself spans about 4 generations of royalty.
I think North and South has an audible exclusive version. If so, I’ll definitely pick it up. These both sound great, actually. Thanks so much for the recs.
Also Sharon Kay Penman's Plantagenant series starting with When Christ and His Saints Slept. This is my favorite book of all time and SKP is tied for first as my absolute favorite author.
@@angelamccollister That was actually the latest book of hers I read, finished it on Christmas eve, and I agree, it was really good! In fact, it felt a bit darker than the Welsh Prince trilogy. I still have the rest of the series to go
Me before watching this: "I'm gonna read Dagger & Coin ASAP" Me now: *wants to re-read LPQ* Screw it, I'm doing both this year, why the hell not lol I know what you mean. I think about Otah and Maati ALL the time. I've already started my re-read of Dresden Files lol knowing where Harry started, and where he's currently at and seeing how he's grown and evolved as a person... and in some ways he absolutely hasn't has been quite journey. I don't think there is a Fantasy character in the last year and a bit I think about more than Harry. This is the problem with watching you Sarah, now I wanna read Greenbone Saga
Really interesting concept to highlight! But also it's a crime that you haven't read the rest of the Fitz books and this video is an aggravating factor
Great idea for a video. Of those you mention, I've read all except Dresden, so I need to give it another try. Agree with you that LPQ is the gold standard. Children of Time reminded me of James Michener. He was very popular in the 70s and wrote long novels focusing on a particular geographic region. I especially liked Centennial and Chesapeake. Also Follett's Pillars of the Earth took place over about 50 years, and he later followed up with several other novels with Kingsbridge as the setting.
Great video! I love Green Bone, LPQ and Dresden! You should definitely read Dandelion Dynasty is definitely multi generational story! Another series is the Echoes Saga by Phillip c Quentrell
I'm so excited to read LPQ! That's awesome that it is still leaving an impact on you. I think Malazan does an incredible job of showing the impact of time and history (as well as raising accuracy questions). Most of the ten-book series takes place within the span of a decade, but it goes beyond that with some of the prologues. That's so funny how you got mad that we weren't following Bilbo in LotR! 😂
Okay so don't read on if you consider the structure and timeline of Berserk to be a spoiler. This is one of the best aspects of Berserk that contribute to making it so good. The way Berserk is structured is that the first small arc at the beginning, called The Black Swordsman, that makes up volumes 1 - 3 show Guts at the current time period that most of the series takes place in. It just drops you right into his life with no explanations, you don't get much about him except that he's a dick, solely motivated by revenge, and is hunting demons with a purpose. It makes you ask questions about what is happening, who Guts is, why he's doing what he's doing. Then you get an 11 volume flashback called The Golden Age detailing his entire life from the moment he's born to where the first arc started when he's 20. Then the series continues from there for several more years. The way it handles certain relationships over many years, and how it shows Guts being formed by his experiences and how his life has shaped him into who he becomes is so well done. Makes for really, really, powerful moments. I love what you said about Dresden and Children of Time! Awesome video as always!
Really insightful video, as always. I'm about to finish up Dandelion Dynasty by Ken Liu. I would say that it's a good example of multiple pov's where parents/children/lineage span a decent amount of time. Highly recommend that series. Book 1 is VERY different from the other 3 though. It's worth pushing through if the 1st book isn't exactly your style. Keep up the amazing content, we all appreciate it!
Also just read Girl Woman Other which is literary but also felt like it fit into this idea and my book club gave it like a 4.75 average which like never happens, but also I agree cause it was so good and you get lived experience of Black woman in Britain over the course of the 20th century
If you liked Children of Time I recommend trying Semiosis, it might not work as well for you as it did me but I love generational scifi and Semiosis is now one of my faves in that subgenre
Very interesting topic. I think I have some suggestions. "The Camulod Chronicles" by jack Whyte, an Arthurian retelling that start a couple of generations before Arthur himself. The "Elfen" series by Bernardt Hennen, the first book cover the entire story through centuries, but the other books focuses on the most important events and characters in different generations that lead to the very end. The "Sheepfarmer daughter" series by Elizabeth Moon, a trilogy wich follow the protagonist Paksanerrion from early age and a pentalogy focused more to her brothers in arms and officers and the training of the next generation, fighting human struggle but also a great evil. and The Realm of the Elderlings" by Robin Hobb. This is probably too long and confusing, sorry
Not long and confusing at all! Thank you for the recommendations. My Dad loves the Jack Whyte series, so I will probably give that a try in the future. I am partially through RotE and need to pick up the pace. I haven’t heard of the others, but will certainly look into them now. ☺️
This was great!!! Yessss LPQ!!! Other than RotE and LPQ, I haven't read any other fantasy that do this. I'd say Jane Eyre would qualify.... also I'm reading some hisfic that might be doing similarly but I'm not finished yet but I think there's a duology by Lisa See (first book Shanghai Girls) where I'm reading abt the sisters at ages 18/22 and now they are 30/34.
This video needed way more swearing Anyway, totally agree. I love books/series that take place over a long period of time. Can't wait to read LPQ and reread Green Bone. Also yeah, read Dandelion Dynasty 😁
I have read all th ebooks except Children of Time and since I love all the other books I will have to try Children of time. I think you are trying to turn me into a Sci- Fi reader lol
Following Fitz throughout the Realm of the Elderlings from his early childhood through to late adulthood was immensely satisfying!
I really need to continue 😭😭
@@TheBookCure Yes.
Sooooo... when are you starting Dandelion Dynasty?! That's honestly the perfect mix for fans of Greenbone, Liveships and LPQ.
I also realised how much I adore 'generational' stories thanks to LPQ, it was absolutely phenomenal. And this is also exactly why the final trilogy in the RotE is my favourite, because you see the growth of the characters and just how literally everything comes back around and falls into place. SO satisfying!
Great video Sarah 🤩
It’s going to have to be top priority for 2024. I probably won’t get to it this year, as I want to focus on getting things finished, but it sounds perfect for me ☺️❤️
I need more discord shaming so that I continue RotE 😅😅
@@TheBookCure i'm on it
@@TheBookCure You really should just be kind to yourself and bump some other series off your priority list to get to Dandelion earlier... just saying 🤪
And I am sure that I can find some people to help me with nagging you about RotE, GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT SARAH! 🤣❤
3 of my 10 favorite series are decades spanning(well, one is centuries spanning, but Hadrian can live to 800, so it counts). You have started one of them, and haven't got to the decades spanning part, and haven't started the other 2.
Realm of the Elderlings
The Dandelion Dynsaty(you will like it so much. Especially books 2-4)
The Sun Eater
I’m really looking forward to DD. We’ll see if I can squeeze it in this year 🙃
It's so interesting that you included Dresden here. I never really thought about the fact that this spanned so many years. It clearly does, but I didn't really consider that when I read it.
This is a great discussion Sarah. Decades spanning fantasy is my preferred type. I love being immersed in the lifespan of a character.
Thanks, Chas ❤️
Yeah it's amazing to read a book series and to get to see characters literally grow up before your eyes.
It’s the best ❤️
Dune. Not only focus on family and family loyalty, but many major storylines involve plots that took generations to plan and execute (specifically breeding plans designed to ensure people with certain qualities would be born, generations in the future.
Yes, this is a great suggestions! Definitely hints to this in Book 1. A great reminder that I need to continue this series.
@@TheBookCure just remember: the series ended with God Emperor. No matter what people might tell you. It ended there.
@@joeberne1 hahaha, got it! That’s the last one I own, so I’m golden 😉
Book tube favorites that do this: First Law and Realm of the Elderlings. For example, in First Law, Logen and Cosca are quite different with the passage of time. Bayaz not at all. With Elderlings, we see Fitz at three very distinct epochs in his life.
For the ones that are less popular on Booktube, Bujold’s Vorkosigan Saga follows Miles family from when his parents meet to Miles at around 36. Steven Brust’s Dragaeran books span centuries, keeping some of the same characters. Jacqueline Carey spans generations in her Terre D’Ange books, with each of the three trilogies moving to the next generation (but switching families for the last trilogy). David Gemmell looks at characters in different parts of their life in his Drenai series, with a few books devoted to Druss, and others to Waylander, both at different life stages. And then, of course, there was Conan - the barbarian, the pirate, the king…
This happens a bit in historical series: Hornblower, Sharpe, Lymond, Niccolo.
Thanks so much for all the recs 😍 I’m just about to finish First Law and what a journey it has been!
@@TheBookCure I’ll be interested to see what you think. Overall, I think it has a better structure than the first books. I’m still undecided about which series has the better overall cast - leaning toward the first, but he’s developed character arcs better here (Sabine, Rikke, Leo, and Orso all change drastically and believably).
The first one I thought of was Joe Abercrombies First Law. Personally I loved running into whatever characters were left by the time we got to the Age of Madness trilogy, which is about 20-30 years after The Blade Itself. Seeing how certain characters have evolved over that time span or just seeing the former main characters children vying for power in the latter trilogy was really interesting.
Yes, First Law is a great example of this. I am 25% of the way through The Wisdom of Crowds and I will be so sad when it’s over.
There was definitely that postpartum feeling when I finished Wisdom. It was SOOOO good tho.
Feist Riftwar series does this as well. We follow characters, children of these characters, grand children etc... Daniel Abraham did also do the long story with characters growing old and changing in the Expanse.
Do you think I’d like The Expanse? For some reason, I’ve never felt drawn to them.
I am just loving your videos. Please keep making them! :)
Thank you so much ☺️
One interesting book I read is ‘Kalpa Imperial’ by Angelica Gorodischer translated by Ursula Le Guin. It’s a standalone fantasy that’s under 300 pages but spans hundreds of years. So you don’t really get to see a character grow and change but rather empires rise and change and make similar mistakes. Highly recommend
Nice! I’d love to read more Le Guin, and this one sounds great.
I’d recommend Tad Williams’ Osten Ard series. There are two main series with the second series taking place 40 years or so later with the same main characters. You get to see the character’s growth and see some of the consequences of what happened before come back around. The last book is coming out this year and I can’t wait.
That sounds perfect! I will flag this one to read for sure ☺️
I can think of a couple historical fiction books / series that I believe fit this category. And they're some of my favorites:
1- North and South trilogy by John Jakes; it focuses primarily on to best friends and their families. These two friends meet at West Point when they're school aged, and set at around the early-mid 1800s. By the end of the trilogy, they have wives and children, and their younger cousins have grown and went thru the Civil War. Such great reads!
2- Here Be Dragons by Sharon Kay Penman; we start out with King Henry II and his sons Richard, John, young Henry and Geoffrey. In Wales there's young Llewellyn who takes back his father's land, becomes a Prince who unites Wales, and married John's bastard daughter. It's book one of a fantastic trilogy, and the trilogy itself spans about 4 generations of royalty.
I think North and South has an audible exclusive version. If so, I’ll definitely pick it up.
These both sound great, actually. Thanks so much for the recs.
Also Sharon Kay Penman's Plantagenant series starting with When Christ and His Saints Slept. This is my favorite book of all time and SKP is tied for first as my absolute favorite author.
@@angelamccollister That was actually the latest book of hers I read, finished it on Christmas eve, and I agree, it was really good! In fact, it felt a bit darker than the Welsh Prince trilogy. I still have the rest of the series to go
Me before watching this:
"I'm gonna read Dagger & Coin ASAP"
Me now: *wants to re-read LPQ*
Screw it, I'm doing both this year, why the hell not lol
I know what you mean. I think about Otah and Maati ALL the time.
I've already started my re-read of Dresden Files lol knowing where Harry started, and where he's currently at and seeing how he's grown and evolved as a person... and in some ways he absolutely hasn't has been quite journey. I don't think there is a Fantasy character in the last year and a bit I think about more than Harry.
This is the problem with watching you Sarah, now I wanna read Greenbone Saga
I’m sorrrry 🤣 I’m curious to see if you enjoy Greenbone or not! And rereading LPQ is such a good idea.
Really interesting concept to highlight! But also it's a crime that you haven't read the rest of the Fitz books and this video is an aggravating factor
Totally appropriate time to shame me 🤣🤣 I need to keep going and I have no excuses 😭
Great idea for a video. Of those you mention, I've read all except Dresden, so I need to give it another try. Agree with you that LPQ is the gold standard. Children of Time reminded me of James Michener. He was very popular in the 70s and wrote long novels focusing on a particular geographic region. I especially liked Centennial and Chesapeake. Also Follett's Pillars of the Earth took place over about 50 years, and he later followed up with several other novels with Kingsbridge as the setting.
Thanks! ☺️ Pillars of the Earth has been on my TBR for a long time - I need to make it happen soon.
Great video! I love Green Bone, LPQ and Dresden! You should definitely read Dandelion Dynasty is definitely multi generational story! Another series is the Echoes Saga by Phillip c Quentrell
Thank you! And thanks for the recs. 🥰
I'm so excited to read LPQ! That's awesome that it is still leaving an impact on you. I think Malazan does an incredible job of showing the impact of time and history (as well as raising accuracy questions). Most of the ten-book series takes place within the span of a decade, but it goes beyond that with some of the prologues. That's so funny how you got mad that we weren't following Bilbo in LotR! 😂
I was so upset, Johanna. Betrayed 😂 And I need to continue on with Malazan. I’m hoping it’ll be a later half of 2023 Malazan party.
I've started a re-read of the Book of The Fallen...
@@thatsci-firogue Nice!!!!
Okay so don't read on if you consider the structure and timeline of Berserk to be a spoiler.
This is one of the best aspects of Berserk that contribute to making it so good. The way Berserk is structured is that the first small arc at the beginning, called The Black Swordsman, that makes up volumes 1 - 3 show Guts at the current time period that most of the series takes place in. It just drops you right into his life with no explanations, you don't get much about him except that he's a dick, solely motivated by revenge, and is hunting demons with a purpose. It makes you ask questions about what is happening, who Guts is, why he's doing what he's doing. Then you get an 11 volume flashback called The Golden Age detailing his entire life from the moment he's born to where the first arc started when he's 20. Then the series continues from there for several more years. The way it handles certain relationships over many years, and how it shows Guts being formed by his experiences and how his life has shaped him into who he becomes is so well done. Makes for really, really, powerful moments.
I love what you said about Dresden and Children of Time! Awesome video as always!
Thanks, Coleton. I really need to start Berserk. I think I may use March to catch up on my open manga series so that I can finally get to it.
Foundation enters chat 😉
I have always been so intimidated. The classic Sci-fi fear. Is it super dense? I really do need to give at least the first one a try.
@@TheBookCureFoundation? No it's barely 250 pages I guess. book 1 is a series of events that place over some 300 years. Hence the joke :)
@@KakashiHatake-ou7mp I don’t know why I have it built up to be this massive, dense thing 🤣🤣
@@TheBookCure Definitely give it a try. As a psychologist, I think you'll like it 😊
Really insightful video, as always. I'm about to finish up Dandelion Dynasty by Ken Liu. I would say that it's a good example of multiple pov's where parents/children/lineage span a decent amount of time. Highly recommend that series. Book 1 is VERY different from the other 3 though. It's worth pushing through if the 1st book isn't exactly your style. Keep up the amazing content, we all appreciate it!
Thank you so much ☺️ Everything I’ve heard about DD makes me think I’ll love it. It’s going to have to be a top priority for next year.
I'm currently rereading Children of Time and love it as much as the first time. My favorite scifi book.
Surprised you didn't include Robin Hobb, RotE.
Only because I haven’t finished yet! 😅 Another great example, though.
Also just read Girl Woman Other which is literary but also felt like it fit into this idea and my book club gave it like a 4.75 average which like never happens, but also I agree cause it was so good and you get lived experience of Black woman in Britain over the course of the 20th century
Sounds fantastic. Another one to add to the TBR. Thanks, Angela!
If you liked Children of Time I recommend trying Semiosis, it might not work as well for you as it did me but I love generational scifi and Semiosis is now one of my faves in that subgenre
Nice! I will definitely give it a try. Gonna add it to the library list.
Very interesting topic. I think I have some suggestions. "The Camulod Chronicles" by jack Whyte, an Arthurian retelling that start a couple of generations before Arthur himself. The "Elfen" series by Bernardt Hennen, the first book cover the entire story through centuries, but the other books focuses on the most important events and characters in different generations that lead to the very end. The "Sheepfarmer daughter" series by Elizabeth Moon, a trilogy wich follow the protagonist Paksanerrion from early age and a pentalogy focused more to her brothers in arms and officers and the training of the next generation, fighting human struggle but also a great evil. and The Realm of the Elderlings" by Robin Hobb. This is probably too long and confusing, sorry
Not long and confusing at all! Thank you for the recommendations. My Dad loves the Jack Whyte series, so I will probably give that a try in the future.
I am partially through RotE and need to pick up the pace.
I haven’t heard of the others, but will certainly look into them now. ☺️
I second Paksennarion. One of my favorites series.
This was great!!! Yessss LPQ!!! Other than RotE and LPQ, I haven't read any other fantasy that do this.
I'd say Jane Eyre would qualify.... also I'm reading some hisfic that might be doing similarly but I'm not finished yet but I think there's a duology by Lisa See (first book Shanghai Girls) where I'm reading abt the sisters at ages 18/22 and now they are 30/34.
This is definitely more common in historical fic - something I love about the genre. And this is another reason to love Jane Eyre! ❤️
A decade/generational recomendation the Dandelion Dinasty by Ken Liu.
This sounds so good. I really need to finish some ongoing series, but this is going to be a top priority next year!
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"Pillars of the earth", "war and peace", everything by James Michener,
Pillars of the Earth has been on my TBR for ages; I should really prioritize it. Thanks so much for the recs ☺️
This video needed way more swearing
Anyway, totally agree. I love books/series that take place over a long period of time. Can't wait to read LPQ and reread Green Bone. Also yeah, read Dandelion Dynasty 😁
I have to be POLITE, Kyle. 🤪
I have read all th ebooks except Children of Time and since I love all the other books I will have to try Children of time. I think you are trying to turn me into a Sci- Fi reader lol
Hahahaha, doing my best! 😉